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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program and it's our one

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Speaker 1: on this Tuesday, Dan and the dan Z dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 1: Morale is high. We'll talk to Warren Moon, Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame quarterback. I believe the only player in football history

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Speaker 1: Because Joe Heisman is not in the NFL Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure he's in the Canadian Football League Hall

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Speaker 1: on that, but I think he is the only player

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Speaker 1: does anyone know where the Canadian besides Canada where the

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Speaker 1: Canadian They may not know where is the Canadian Football

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? What tell you think Winnipeg, Saskatchewan that's

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Speaker 1: up there now, Berte, Ontario, Edmonton, UM Vancouver, Nova, Scotia, Toronto.

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Speaker 1: It's connected to Montreal, It's connected to Tim Horton's field.

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Speaker 1: Great Donuts by the way, Hamilton, Ontario. Oh back to you, Dan, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's what Johnny Manzel was Hamilton, the Tie Cats. He

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Speaker 1: was at Hamilton. He was almost in the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: the Canadian Hall of Fame. Did I tell you I

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Speaker 1: saw Hamilton twice? Original cast, the original It's on Amazon

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Speaker 1: and July they're showing a video and we can finally

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Speaker 1: get Seaton to sit down and Joy. I promise you, Seaton,

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Speaker 1: you may not admit it to me, but when you

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Speaker 1: watch Hamilton, I think he'll love it. No, I will

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Speaker 1: watch it and I will give you my honest opinion,

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Speaker 1: all right, And I want your wife's honest opinion too,

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Speaker 1: because I value that. Oh well, she hates musicals, so

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Speaker 1: she might then you know what, but she loves music

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Speaker 1: and she knows music she does, and she knows rap

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Speaker 1: and she knows you know. So welcome to the program

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Speaker 1: already is Yeah, Welcome to the program. It's our one

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Speaker 1: on this Tuesday. We'll talk to Warren Moon coming up,

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Speaker 1: Michael Wilbon, who's going into the Hall of Fame, the

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Speaker 1: Broadcasting Hall of Fame with yours truly and Tom Berducci

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Speaker 1: that was supposed to be this summer. It's next summer.

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Speaker 1: So the class of twenty twenty gets inducted in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, so Wilbon on loan from Pardon the Interruption

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Speaker 1: will join us as well. Players quickly rejected the latest

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Speaker 1: baseball proposal. I hate to waste your time on it.

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Speaker 1: You know, we talk about this. It feels like we

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Speaker 1: get an update, a new proposal, counter proposal, and it's

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Speaker 1: every couple of days. I don't know what's happening. And

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Speaker 1: then it feels like that deadline is they better get

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Speaker 1: next week we'll say the same thing, he better get

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Speaker 1: something start. Okay. Look, I've covered these lockouts and strikes before, negotiations,

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Speaker 1: and they're always they agree on just about everything, and

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Speaker 1: there's always the money aspect, and you say, well, that's

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Speaker 1: a big deal, and it is, but they sort of

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Speaker 1: know where the sensitive areas are. And then they still't

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Speaker 1: have to get a sign off from health officials to

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Speaker 1: be able to pull this off, because you're not going

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Speaker 1: to be quarantined in Orlando. You're going to be playing

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Speaker 1: all around the country. Here, Baseball, tap me on the

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Speaker 1: like it's this, you know, this verbal game of ping

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Speaker 1: pong that's played between the players and the owners. We

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Speaker 1: don't care about the money. We couldn't care less about

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Speaker 1: the money. We just want to know. It's like, I

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Speaker 1: don't care about the labor pains. Just show me the baby,

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Speaker 1: all right, show me the baby, and I'll get you

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Speaker 1: a nice gift. I cared about my wife's labor pains,

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Speaker 1: I really did, But I don't care about baseball's labor pains. NF.

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Speaker 1: I'll announced a new series of guidelines for getting back

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Speaker 1: to football teams. We'll have some work ahead of them

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Speaker 1: to rearrange the buildings. The lockers now have to be

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Speaker 1: have to wear a mask inside the facility. This strange

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Speaker 1: be learning from these other sports. Golf is coming back.

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Speaker 1: how many games we're going to play and how much

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Speaker 1: we're gonna pay these players. Are we going to be

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Speaker 1: so many boxes that are unchecked here. It's almost silly

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Speaker 1: to even go down this road with baseball and go, man,

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Speaker 1: let me try to troubleshoot this. I got no answers

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Speaker 1: on this. I truly don't. And the scary part is

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Baseball has any answers on this.

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Speaker 1: He was afaging three yards at Kerry. Now I know

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Speaker 1: the Vikings have a backup. What's he's got a presidential name?

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Speaker 1: What's his name? Alexander Madison, Alexander Matthison, Mats he averaged

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Speaker 1: You know what that name, Alexander Madison reminds me of

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Speaker 1: you know, Dalvin Cook is a good running back? Is

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Speaker 1: And Christian McCaffrey is that team is not good And

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Speaker 1: One time, I tag him and that's it. Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing avoiding an interception is a good thing. But hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm old school. Maybe I don't understand the new philosophy,

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Speaker 1: the new analytics. Yes, mclen I saw it in Philly

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Speaker 1: all Donald McNabb would not throw a catchable ball because

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to get it picked off. He would

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Speaker 1: throw a low and make the receiver make a play.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of quarterbacks. Wait, wait, wait, how many

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Speaker 1: NFC title games did they go to? They went to

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Speaker 1: four or five? And Philly fans, well, he had a

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Speaker 1: style that was like Rits, like he definitely threw the

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Speaker 1: ball away a lit. It was all about baktro which

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Speaker 1: you worked great. Yeah, I think you're right. I think

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Speaker 1: Brady's the same way too. He pick So what if

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Speaker 1: you throw it away? You know, far Far through over

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Speaker 1: three hundred interceptions, right, Yeah, because he didn't throw the

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Speaker 1: ball away, they won a lot, though. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: can you can make an argument for forcing in Green

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Speaker 1: Bay has two Super Bowls in the last what thirty

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Speaker 1: years with two of the greatest quarterbacks of all time

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Speaker 1: far and maybe you just say, well, look, Rogers didn't

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Speaker 1: take chances, doesn't take chances. Farve did, and they both

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Speaker 1: have one Super Bowl. Okay, I mean I guess if

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Speaker 1: that's your argument, But I don't know why throwing the

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Speaker 1: ball away that you're going to protect your numbers, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to have interceptions. I would think that'd be

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Speaker 1: a smart thing for a quarterback to throw it away.

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Speaker 1: And look, what's this completion percentage. What's Aaron Rodgers completion

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Speaker 1: percentage for his career? It's probably huge. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: guess it's pretty good. But I don't. I don't if

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Speaker 1: you said to the Buccaneers you can have Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: now you're getting for the next five years. You want

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you're taking Aaron Rodgers. If you said to

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Speaker 1: Arizona you can have this draft with ESPN has Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees going to Arizona at eight overall, that didn't make

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Speaker 1: any sense whatsoever. If I'm Arizona, I'd rather have Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray now than Drew Brees. Yeso. Aaron Rodgers has never

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Speaker 1: led the NFL in completion percentage, yardage. He's led a

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Speaker 1: league in touchdowns once, but he's led the league in

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Speaker 1: interception percentage. I mean in a good way. Lack of

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Speaker 1: interception percentage. Oh it's not even closed four times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean his numbers career wise, he's the leader over

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Speaker 1: start sharing the ball Aaron with other team Yeah, yeah, McLean.

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking from Philly here. But having Carson Wentz below

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott made a lot of people in Philadelphia mad.

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Speaker 1: Considering the Eagles have made the playoffs and the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: have it, Well, who would you take? I take Carson? Okay,

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Speaker 1: but it's really close, Yeah it is. And they're in

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Speaker 1: this list. You got Dak Prescott going nine, Carson Wentz

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Speaker 1: going eleven. Health issue, Dak Prescott doesn't miss games. Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz does and his style has cost him a little

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Speaker 1: bit here. Absolutely, But you know you lose me here

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Speaker 1: when you have Drew Locke is the fifteenth overall pick

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Speaker 1: out of every place. So he's the fifteenth most most

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Speaker 1: valuable player in the NFL right now? Well, it's all qbs.

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Speaker 1: What if he took out the qbs, who would be

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Speaker 1: the like if we went around the room, who would

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Speaker 1: be the number one in the consensus? If I took

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks out? I would I would start with Aaron Donald

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Speaker 1: or or Bosa. I think Yampa. I think I was

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Speaker 1: steff On Gilmour too. Aaron Donald's twenty nine, he's a

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Speaker 1: great twenty nine. I think I go Quenton Nelson, the

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. He's twenty four years old and he's the

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Speaker 1: best lineman in the league. You figure you it's a

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Speaker 1: safer position. You got ten years of all pronus. I

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Speaker 1: don't have him in the top thirty. Am I missing

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Speaker 1: something here? I don't about that Quinton Nelson in the

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Speaker 1: ESPN pick. The only lineman who went in the first

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Speaker 1: round I believe was Ronnie Stanley. Yeah that's position probably,

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Speaker 1: But where is Quinton Nelson is seventy seventh on this list.

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Speaker 1: Guard this stupid. But by the way, all these players

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Speaker 1: I said, the Rams are going to win the division,

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Speaker 1: Everyone's like laughed at me. Like Aaron Donald and Quinton Nelson,

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Speaker 1: these guys don't make huge win impacts. It's all the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We only talk about, Like who's the other guy? We

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Speaker 1: just meat We were saying, take away the quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like it proves like Aaron Donald, nobody thinks he's

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Speaker 1: going to lead the Rams to the playoffs. So it's like,

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Speaker 1: how about I don't know, like is he really the

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Speaker 1: most valuable guy if he doesn't make them that dangerous.

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Speaker 1: All I know is Andrew Luck had maybe his best

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Speaker 1: year when Quinton Nelson was drafted, and that would have

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Speaker 1: been the reason why you would have thought Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: would have con in you to play. That's how good

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Speaker 1: Quinton Nelson is. Right, But the offense said nothing when

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Speaker 1: it was Jacobe Brissett, like he couldn't you need you know,

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Speaker 1: they run the ball down your throat? Were they really

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Speaker 1: a dangerous offense? Though? No, But they didn't have a

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Speaker 1: great quarterback. I mean, you have to have a lot

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Speaker 1: of other things in place. I need to have an

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Speaker 1: offensive line. That's where we're gonna start. We're gonna find

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Speaker 1: out if Tom Brady's going to be successful. That offensive

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Speaker 1: line better be a little bit better, a lot better

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Speaker 1: than they were last year. You can have all these weapons.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tom's gonna be thrown like three yard outs.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be quick hitters here, and this is a

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Speaker 1: team that loves to throw the ball down the field. Yeah. Point,

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Speaker 1: if they're both free agents and hypothetically the same price,

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Speaker 1: would you rather have Quinton Nelson the guard or George

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Speaker 1: Kittle at the All Pro tight end? How old is Kittle?

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Speaker 1: Kittles like twenty seven. I got Kittle at twenty six

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Speaker 1: years old. He's a year and a half older than

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Speaker 1: Quinton Nelson. It's a tough one. I would take Kittle.

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Speaker 1: I'd take Kittle. Nelson's a guard. If Nelson was a tackle,

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Speaker 1: then I might Then I might look at Quinton Nelson.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't Nelson block guys like Chris Jones and Aaron Donald

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Speaker 1: and Fletcher Cox. Yeah, but you gotta have the guy

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Speaker 1: who protects the edge. Yeah. I mean it's let's put

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Speaker 1: it this way. If you said you're taking Kittle and

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Speaker 1: I get Quinton Nelson. I'm fine with them both. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: mc kittle is you got to guard him with like

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Speaker 1: three guys. He disrupts a deal like you gotta watch Kiddle.

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Speaker 1: So you could argue that makes him a little valuable. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, you're gonna have to have at least two

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Speaker 1: guys on him. Kittle, You're gonna have to have two

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Speaker 1: guys on him. You know, there's certain players where it's

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Speaker 1: not just one guy that is going to take care

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Speaker 1: of this guy. You're gonna he's gonna disrupt either the

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Speaker 1: offense or defense. Yes, MC. I always remember where how

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Speaker 1: you tell that story about how TCU ran away from

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Speaker 1: red at Watt, like you can take out a non

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Speaker 1: quarterback by avoiding them to like Dan know whatever threw

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Speaker 1: at Deon. But that was always the interesting philosophy when

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Speaker 1: I watched TCU against Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl, and

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Speaker 1: I went, they're running right at JJ Watt. Andy Dalton

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00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: was running right at him, because great players pursue. That

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00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: was always what teams did against the Vikings in Alan Page.

549
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: Alan Page was so athletic as a defensive lineman that

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Speaker 1: he always caught up with you. But if you ran

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Speaker 1: at him, then you had better success, which seems, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of counterintuitive, Like, let's stay away from that guy too,

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Speaker 1: Let's go right at that guy. And if you look

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Speaker 1: at the number of plays where Andy Dalton would just

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Speaker 1: read J. J. Watt and he would run and Andy Dalton,

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Speaker 1: that's when I looked at Andy Dalton, go, he's a

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Speaker 1: first round talent. Now he went in the second round,

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Speaker 1: but I thought he's a first round talent because that

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Speaker 1: was one of the great game plans executed. Yeah, McLevin, Like,

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Speaker 1: how about an offensive lineman. If you're playing the cults,

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Speaker 1: don't you try to avoid Nelson Blitz on the other

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Speaker 1: side or something. I don't know, that's a problem the

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Speaker 1: non qbs, you could try to avoid them. Yeah, although

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Speaker 1: Nelson is pretty damn good. You're right. I hate these lists.

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Speaker 1: At least I had to put Michael Jordan as the

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Speaker 1: top college basketball. Don't even start with that. Don't even start.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna talk about Russell Wilson number two. Did

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Speaker 1: PAULI write that pick? That's like a no brainer. Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson's the second most valuable guy in the league. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: he give an average team a chance that you don't

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Speaker 1: need a ton of talent around and you're still in

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Speaker 1: the ballgame at the quarterback of this. Yeah, but is

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Speaker 1: this the five year window? One ESPN is the five

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Speaker 1: year window? Then I wouldn't have Russell Wilson Junior the

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Speaker 1: third as the second pick overall he's thirty one. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have him, although he strikes me as he's

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Speaker 1: going to be able to play into mid thirties maybe late,

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Speaker 1: and and he's done it pretty good. He gets hit

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Speaker 1: a lot, but you know he's doesn't get injured a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he did. He led the league in being sacked

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Speaker 1: last year, Russell Wilson forty eight times. But he also

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Speaker 1: had the second best statistical season of his career at

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Speaker 1: thirty one touchdowns of only five picks. What am I

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Speaker 1: missing here with Drew Locke? People are all about Drew Locke. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he won. At the end of last year, they drafted

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Speaker 1: Jerry Judy, who somehow felt to them Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It just felt like he was one of those quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: that if he had come out the year before then

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Speaker 1: we would looked at him and went, Okay, I get it.

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Speaker 1: And then he stayed at Missouri and then I watched

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Speaker 1: because then it was like, oh, I gotta watch this guy.

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Speaker 1: And then I would watch because usually those games were

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Speaker 1: on it, you know, noon, and you would watch him,

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Speaker 1: and you go, he just it's like Jordan Love. Jordan

595
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: Love got all this hype and then everybody started watching.

596
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Speaker 1: But he got He had great numbers when he had

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Speaker 1: a good supporting cast. Then he lost a lot of

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Speaker 1: his offense, and then all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 1: here he goes back down. But Drew Locke had an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable year and then all of a sudden he regretted. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a dig. Saying Missouri is a noon team.

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Speaker 1: You're thrown in there with Indiana and Maryland and Kentucky. Well,

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Speaker 1: they can't start at eleven o'clock, so that's just saying

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Speaker 1: they're just saying Maryland. Yeah, welcome to Maryland football. It's

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Speaker 1: noon Eastern here. Welcome to the Terrapin Football Network. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pulling Dan, you're correct, Missouri is more of a noon

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Speaker 1: ISSH team because you know they got that three thirty

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Speaker 1: three o'clock PM CBS SEC window. Missouri does not get

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Speaker 1: a lot of run there, you know they do, Yes, Todd,

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Speaker 1: the jury is still out on him, but you gotta

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Speaker 1: love that youthful enthusiasm that he was bringing. I know

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Speaker 1: it's I'm all of a sudden, I'm talk because it's

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Speaker 1: the Broncos, but you gotta give him mad the way

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Speaker 1: he finished off the season, the way he rallies the troops,

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Speaker 1: there's some leadership ability there. You know. You look at

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Speaker 1: the Jay Cutler's of the world. This guy's it's got

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Speaker 1: a little something. Thank you, Todd, Welcome, take your break.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show. During the commercial break, we were talking about

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Speaker 1: Missouri football and if you didn't know, and maybe you

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Speaker 1: still don't know, Missouri's in the SEC. It just doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel like they're in the SEC like Rutger's in the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten. And then we thought, well, who's Missouri's rivals

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Speaker 1: right now? What are those must see circle the calendar

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Speaker 1: date that Missouri is going to be facing Iowa State. Well, yeah, Arkansas, don't.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget about that one. That's a classic battle. Their

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Speaker 1: rivalry games here listed, it says are Arkansas, Kansas, Illinois,

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Speaker 1: Iowa State, Nebraska, and Oklahoma. Yeah, Paul Dan, I remember

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Speaker 1: the toddler, my dad running me down to Champagne for

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Speaker 1: that Illinois Missouri matchup, the old sloppin Bucket or whatever

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Speaker 1: it was called. And what a great No, nobody went

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Speaker 1: to Illinois Missouri. You know, it's unfod about this too.

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Speaker 1: It's their Wikipedia lists the rivalry games, and then it

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Speaker 1: says like Arkansas, you know, Kansas, I'll say Nebraska. Nebraska

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Speaker 1: leads this series sixty five to thirty six, Oklahoma leads

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Speaker 1: to this series sixty seven to twenty four. Those aren't rivalries.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about Missouri. Are they a noon team? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're a nooner there. Their first nationally televised game of

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Speaker 1: the year was eleven am Central against West Virginia last

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Speaker 1: year on the deuce. Then you can mix in a

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Speaker 1: little you gotta go ways down. They did have a

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Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern versus Old miss on the deuce, and

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Speaker 1: then the biggie was sacrificial land for Georgia in November

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Speaker 1: on the ESPN Mothership at seven pm. Okay, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: reading on the history of how Missouri ended up in

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Speaker 1: the SEC. So Texas blew up the Big twelve because

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Speaker 1: they want a TV network, and Missouri wanted to go

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Speaker 1: to the Big Ten, but the Big Ten never invited

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Speaker 1: them in. That's what they openly lobbied. Would they be

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Speaker 1: better as a Big Ten team? Yeah, yes, yes. Somebody

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Speaker 1: in chat Road just said, Rutgers plays football technically. Remember

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Speaker 1: remember when a team out there, Remember when they had

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Speaker 1: that really big win on ESPN was it It may

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Speaker 1: have been versus Miami at home and they're showing skylines

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Speaker 1: of New York even the New York's nowhere near Rutgers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Bryan Leonard was a running back. Yeah, they had two

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Speaker 1: good running backs. Rice. Yeah, they had two thousand yard rushers.

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Speaker 1: He just Ray Rice and yeah, Mike Teel at the

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Speaker 1: quarterback pass Mike Teel, good Pole, good poll Workers football.

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Speaker 1: That's what I do. Yeah, whenever we want to talk

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Speaker 1: Rutgers football, I go right to Paul. You know what

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Speaker 1: else bothers me is Texas A and m doesn't belong

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Speaker 1: in the SEC because the SEC is a Southern conference,

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Speaker 1: and people in Texas they don't consider themselves to the South.

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Speaker 1: They consider themselves Texas. Texas should not be anywhere near

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Speaker 1: the SEC, should be in the Big twelve or their

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Speaker 1: own conference. Yeah. I remember when there was that fallout

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Speaker 1: with the Past twelve and who was joining, and you know,

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Speaker 1: was Utah going to be in and Colorado going to

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Speaker 1: be in and what other teams were going to be in.

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Speaker 1: You know, it felt like there was some real upheaval there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Mcleven by, Wait, I just got guests a lasted time. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Missouri was number one two thousand seven, Chase Daniel led

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Speaker 1: the number one. Well you didn't, you said, Guests win

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Speaker 1: and then I didn't chance to. The question is how

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Speaker 1: many years had it been before that? In two thousand

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Speaker 1: and seven that Missouri had been number one? They were

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Speaker 1: number one in the country. They were number one with

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Speaker 1: Chase Daniel on the cover SI they lost Oklahoma at

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Speaker 1: like week eleven. I'm okay, Oh, you guys don't remember

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Speaker 1: the Chase Daniel Missouri run. Oh my god, that was huge.

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Speaker 1: They were the number one ranked team in college football

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Speaker 1: in the country. Yes, And apparently the time before that

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Speaker 1: was nineteen sixty, so they had a forty seven year

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Speaker 1: drought of being number one. You guys don't remember Chase

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Speaker 1: Daniel couldn't be beat an he was sort of Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which led us to today's Paul, what is the full question?

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Speaker 1: Let Paully do the honors, because well, it's all circles

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Speaker 1: back to the first seven where you talk to CFL football.

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Speaker 1: Whose career would you rather have? Career backup who made

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Speaker 1: a lot of money but really didn't play football, Chase

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Speaker 1: Daniel in the NFL, or you could be the greatest

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Speaker 1: CFL quarterback ever, the greatest Damon Allen or no, because

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Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback ever is somebody that you don't know right,

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Speaker 1: but you were, you played, you actually played, and in

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Speaker 1: Canada you're you can't walk the streets, which the guy God,

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Speaker 1: I don't want his remember Rocky Colavito, Nope, Anti Collavido. Anthony. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Donny have like sixty thousand passing yards. He's got all

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Speaker 1: the records, but nobody knows him. Yeah, Chase Daniel preseason

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Speaker 1: games outrate the Great Cup by fivefold. Probably I would

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Speaker 1: take Chase Daniel. Yeah, you should look at the ratings

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Speaker 1: like a preseason NFL. It probably blows away the great cup.

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Speaker 1: Is Chase Daniel the greatest preseason quarterback of all time? Is?

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Speaker 1: I think he's the most prolific preseason quarterback up all

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Speaker 1: the time. They don't keep perfect stats, they don't. He's unstoppable.

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Speaker 1: Warren Moon, who played in the Canadian Football League and

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, is going to join us coming

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Speaker 1: up and in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The

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Speaker 1: first undrafted quarterback to be inducted into the Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. When I watched him play at Washington,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was spectacular, and then he went undrafted,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he goes to the

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Speaker 1: CFL and he lights it up up there. Marcus Allen's brother,

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Speaker 1: he was great up there as well. All at one

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Speaker 1: hour in the books, two more to Go, Michael Wilbon

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Speaker 1: will also stopped by more of your phone calls eage

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Speaker 1: seven seven three, DP show, Twitter, hand to a DP show,

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Speaker 1: say good morning to a radio and TV partners back

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Speaker 1: after this