1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan cow Kalai. Here's 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: cal if your algorithm is anything like mine. You've noticed 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: an uptick in the number of AI generated animal videos 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: bouncing around social media. You know the ones I'm talking about. 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: There are videos of cats and wolves and doorbell cameras, 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: and videos of raccoons and bears jumping on trampolines. There's 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: a viral video of a cat chasing away a leopard 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: that had jumped into someone's backyard. And just yesterday I 10 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: was served a video of a bear being scared by 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: a Halloween decoration. These videos are often funny or shocking, 12 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: and when compared to other uses of artificial intelligence, they 13 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: might seem harmless, but they also look super real. This, 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: conservationists say can be a problem. Researchers with the University 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: of Cordoba in Spain recently published a paper in the 16 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: journal Conservation Biology that outlines some of the potential pitfalls 17 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: of these fake videos. For one thing, they can depict 18 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: endangered or threaten species as more numerous than they actually are. 19 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be difficult to make a video of oslots, 20 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: the tiny endangered cat that only lives in a few 21 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 1: small pockets in South Texas invading a neighborhood. If someone 22 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: sees that video and believes it's real, they might be 23 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: less likely to support oslot conservation, you know, because they're 24 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: stealing your kids Halloween candy getting frightened by animatronic clowns. 25 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: Researchers also worry that these videos give people a false 26 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: sense of how animals actually operate. If you watch a 27 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: video of a grizzly bear walking up to some Yellowstone 28 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: tourists and asking for belly scratches like a dog, you 29 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: might think that non AI bears will do the same. 30 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: It's the same way people approach out of their league 31 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: for dates. It's all AI folks that could land you 32 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: in serious trouble. Not to mention being incredibly disappointed, our 33 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: increasingly urbanized society is already disconnected from nature. Most people 34 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: don't know what kinds of wild animals live beyond city limits, 35 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: and these videos aren't helping them be more engaged or 36 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: involved with the actual issues on the ground. Now, you 37 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: might say that these researchers aren't giving people enough credit. 38 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: Most have already learned to be suspicious of sensational looking 39 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: videos on the internet. We won't stop supporting wolf management 40 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: because we see a video of a wolf and a 41 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: housecat playing in the yard. Still, these videos look incredibly real, 42 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: and unlike fake videos of politicians or public figures, there 43 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: isn't much public outcry to curb their spread. If enough 44 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: people think mountain lions like to snuggle housecats, it could 45 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: actually impact the next ballot measure to ban mountain lion hunting. 46 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 1: Bottom line, be careful about what you believe on the Internet, 47 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: and even more careful about what you share, especially when 48 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: it comes to your bank account or social Security number. 49 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: In a few days time, he'll return the money I invested, 50 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: plus one thousand percent interest and a share of his 51 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: family fortunes. It's a scam. It is not a scam. 52 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: Why would someone want to scam me? Jamain and on 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: the Internet service one of the trusted things of today's society. 54 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: This week we've got crime Listener, mail Bureau, news, and 55 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: so much more of it. First, I'm going to tell 56 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: you about my week, and my week was all sorts 57 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: of interesting, as per usual. A couple of things I'm 58 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: thinking about right now. Met up with the fantastic Hal Herring. 59 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: If you're not listening to the BHA cast and blast 60 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: with Hal, jump on over there download this one. It's great. 61 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: Hal is often described as an American treasure, and I 62 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: sure think so. Another thing I'm thinking about corner crossing. 63 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: As everyone here is aware, we have quote legal gray 64 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: areas unquote dominantly in the ninth Federal District Court, which, 65 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: of course my home state of Montana lies in our 66 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: state Game Agency not the state Attorney General's office issued 67 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: a statement a couple weeks back saying that corner crossing 68 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: remains illegal in Montana and game wardens will refer to 69 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: the county attorney's office as to essentially ask permission on 70 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: what to do. For clarity, game wardens in the state 71 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: are not looking for corner crossers. They have to be 72 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: notified by a landowner who wants to prosecute people who 73 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: have walked from public land to public land. Then the 74 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: warden has to contact the appropriate county attorney's office and 75 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: take action on whatever that response is. But here's the thing. 76 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: Wyoming Federal District Court and the Tenth Circuit Court of 77 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: Appeals have both said that corner crossing is legal On 78 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: top of that, scot Us, the Supreme Court of the 79 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: United States has said that both of those courts made 80 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: the right decisions. There is no reason to review. This 81 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: is all based off of the Unlawful Enclosures Act passed 82 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: by Congress, which is a fancy word for we the 83 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: people in eighteen ninety five. There has never been a 84 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: legal gray area. There have just been a very few 85 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: interests that have conspired to twist things that way. Fun 86 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: fact for you, if states in the Ninth Circuit were 87 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: to jump on the Tenth Circuit's extremely narrow definition of 88 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: corner crossing as regulation, we the people would actually lose 89 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: a lot of privilege in our ability to access public land. 90 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: The Tenth says only cross on foot at the corner, 91 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: while Congress says, if your intent is to access public 92 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: land and you need to cross private land to do so, 93 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: you can legally do it, even if you are pushing 94 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: a band of sheep which happens to be in the 95 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: neighborhood of a thousand or so use which are the 96 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: girls for you's folks who do not know sheep. Also 97 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: been thinking about an incident I had the other day. 98 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: Incident makes it sound like a bad occurrence. Well maybe 99 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: it is an occurrence. Anyways, we were hiking, and by we, 100 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean me and my buddy's youngest on deer hunt 101 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: in this particular area is an incredible draw unit, extremely 102 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: hard to draw for elk. We came across an elk 103 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: hunter with his bowl of a lifetime right next to 104 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: the trailhead half a mile out, and we offered to help. 105 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: He's a little older by himself, and our offer is 106 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: a little bit rebuffed, kind of says that, well, you know, 107 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: I don't really know what I'm doing, but I got it, 108 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: So of course I kind of pushed the issue because 109 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: it's a big deal. It's a really big deal, and 110 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: he's by himself, and I helped clean a few things up, 111 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: take some nice pictures, and again say hey, we're coming 112 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: right back through here at dark or whenever the deer 113 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: hound ends, and we can just pack this guy right 114 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: out of here. There's grizzly poop all over. It's not 115 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: a big deal to us. Then we go off and hunt, 116 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: have great time watching small mule deer bucks, red updos, 117 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: and a gorgeous Montana sunset. When we come back down 118 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: the mountain, it's blacker than pitch, and I say, hey, 119 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: let's make sure to check up on our guy and 120 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: his bowl, make sure things are okay, And honestly okay 121 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: is what we find. The hunter is, in my opinion, 122 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: doing things to the best of their knowledge and ability, 123 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: and the situation as he left it probably would have 124 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: been good ish, but we rearrange things. We move the 125 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: head in the cape as well as the carcass into 126 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: a position that may have been less bare friendly, and 127 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: certainly it was cleaner and better for airflow and meat preservation. 128 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: But again link this dude was by himself, and by 129 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: the time we got out to the trailhead we had 130 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: this debate started, and that debate would pick up more 131 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: people and continue way too late in the night, not 132 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: the way any of us would have done it, but 133 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: also not our tag, not our critter, and things would 134 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: probably turn out fine, but we declared it's a once 135 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: in a lifetimer type of opportunity. Why wouldn't you just 136 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: knuckle down and get it all out. So here's the 137 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: interesting thing and the conclusion I came to the only 138 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: reason I know anything about hunting is because people had 139 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: the patience and grace to let me learn as a child, 140 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, should that opportunity not be provided if the 141 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: person is a lot older and learning. I'm still learning, right, 142 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: Everything turned out just fine. Again, not how we'd have 143 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: done it, But a bear didn't mess with the head, 144 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: and for those of you who don't know, black bears 145 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: in particular love dragon heads off, I don't know why. 146 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: And nothing did mess with the carcass. And the meat 147 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: was a little hairy and a little dirty, but in 148 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: otherwise good edible, non wasted condition. And as a friend 149 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: of mine pointed out, if you dry age that meat, 150 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: all that outside stuff comes off and is effectively wasted anyway. 151 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: So I'm curious to know what you all think about 152 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: this situation. Do you push harder, take control? Or do 153 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: you walk away? My young friend, who I was helping 154 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: out on that trip, said, you know, it seems like 155 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: bad planning. If you know you can't get around well 156 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: and you have that tag, why wouldn't you go with 157 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: somebody who could help you, Which was, oddly enough, kind 158 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: of the situation that we were in. That young fella 159 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: knows a lot of stuff. You probably would have been okay, 160 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: but he asked for somebody to come along and help 161 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: and that's where I was so right in. Let me 162 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: know what you think, ask c Al. That's Ascal at 163 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: the meat eater dot com. Moving on to the crime 164 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: desk down in Tahas, we have a story of yet 165 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: another kid fishing in a neighborhood pond who was verbally 166 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: assaulted by an adult man with zero chill. That lovely 167 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: interaction was between a fourteen year old boy and a 168 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: man who is much much too old to get that 169 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: worked up over a kid with a fishing pole. The 170 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: boy was fishing at a place called Sullivan Park in 171 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: South Austin. It's unclear exactly why the man was so upset, 172 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: but part of the argument seemed to be about whether 173 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: the boy needed a fishing license. You don't need a 174 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: license in Texas until you're seventeen, which is what the 175 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: kid told his verbal assailant, but that didn't do too 176 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: much to mollify the irate adult. He lashed out at 177 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: the fourteen year old, and even though he didn't step 178 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: towards the boy, he did obviously threaten him. The boy's 179 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: mother is taken to local media to advocate for her son. 180 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: She filed the police report, but because the man's words 181 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: don't rise to the level of a terroristic threat. The 182 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: Austin Police referred the case to municipal court. The boy's 183 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: mother isn't satisfied with this conclusion, and she wants officials 184 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: to do more to hold her son's assailant accountable. I mean, listen, 185 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about fishing, not a gang, not a gang, 186 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: not a gang, We're talking about fishing. What is going 187 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: on in this country? I hope they catch whoever this 188 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: fella is and instruct him to buy the kid a 189 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: new fishing pole, and probably instruct this guy on the 190 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: joys of relaxing and fishing. Maybe that's the problem. This 191 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: guy doesn't fish. Down to Missouri, three people were caught 192 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: up for poaching almost a thousand fish with thrownets in 193 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: Camden County. Although thrownets are legal means of take for 194 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: bait fish and Missouri, there is a daily limit of 195 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty for those non game species, and 196 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: these fellas were up to seven thirteen. They also helped 197 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: themselves to fourteen smallmouth bass, twenty eight readier sunfish, and 198 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven suckers using thrownets, which you 199 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: just can't do. The trio pled guilty this month and 200 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: were issued violations including loss of fishing privileges. Finishing up 201 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: the crime beat in Indiana with by far the most 202 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: chilling crime story this week. Father and son, John and 203 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: Hayden Lowe were charged late last month with several counts 204 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: of animal cruelty and obstruction of justice after allegedly shooting 205 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: two pet dogs while hunting from tree stands on private 206 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: land in Laporte, Indiana, then attempting to cover up the crime. 207 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: On Saturday, October twenty one, the owner of the two dogs, 208 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: a beagle named Josie and a chocolate lab named Bear, 209 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: noticed that the beagle's GPS caller had stopped sending signals. 210 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: She went to the caller's last reported location and found 211 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: the dog on the property next time to hers killed 212 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: by an arrow. According to the charging documents filed by 213 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: the Laporte County Prosecutor, The police found that the entrance 214 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: wound of the arrow was high up on the dog's body, 215 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: indicating that it had been shot from above. Trying to 216 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: find out more, the dog's owner contacted another hunter in 217 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: the area after seeing his social media posts, and the 218 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: police interviewed him to investigate further. This hunter had been 219 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: named nearby tree stand that morning and had seen the 220 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: dogs heading into the property. He heard the dogs moving 221 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: through the forest before yelping in distress and going silent. Critically, 222 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: this witness said he never heard the animal's bark. Climbing 223 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: down from the stand to investigate, the hunter then found 224 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: fifty eight year old John Lowe along with his twenty 225 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: two year old son Hayden, with Hayden dragging a chocolate 226 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: lab down a fire lane between the properties. John said 227 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: the dogs had charged Hayden aggressively, causing John to kill them, 228 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: and now the pair were looking for a place to 229 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: discard the dog. Low asked the other hunter not to 230 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: tell anyone, which is exactly what you do, you know, 231 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: when you're doing straightforward stuff. He then added, took care 232 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: of a problem for both of us. Not hard to 233 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: read between the lines here. No hunter is glad to 234 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: see dogs making a ruckus near their spot in the 235 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: deer woods, but to kill those dogs is not cool man. 236 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: The lows then dragged both dogs to a separate property, 237 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: hiding them in the woods, and then proceeded to destroy 238 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: Josie's GPS caller. The Low's appeared to be many things, 239 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: but criminal masterminds ain't one of them. The statement that 240 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: John Lowe gave to the police was full of contradictions. 241 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: He said the dogs had charged him, not his son. 242 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: He said the dogs had been barking and snapping aggressively, 243 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: even though the witness heard no barking. He couldn't explain 244 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: why he hadn't contacted the police or animal control about 245 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: the aggressive dogs, or how the dogs could have threatened 246 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: him and his son while they were up in tree stands. 247 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: He said he wasn't motivated to kill the dogs to 248 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: prevent them from scaring deer away, but did admit to 249 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: dragging the bodies off the property to conceal them. Neither 250 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: of the Loews have a prior history of criminal activity 251 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: or hunting violations, and their trial is set to start 252 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: on January fourteenth of next year. We spoke with Captain 253 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Derek Allen of the Laporte County Sheriff's Office, who said 254 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: the incident had deeply dismayed the tight knit community. Quote. 255 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: I had a coach at a youth athletic event approached 256 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: me twice in two weeks to express his ongoing shock. 257 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: He went on to say that hunters and other participants 258 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: in the outdoors, like farmers and dog walkers in the area, 259 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: typically have respect for and trust in each other. On 260 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: top of the cruelty of the crime is the absolute 261 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: gift this kind of thing is for the anti hunting folks. 262 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: Shooting dogs from tree stands is exactly the kind of 263 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: cartoon villain behavior that give hunters a bad name with 264 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: the general public, and animal rights groups work hard to 265 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: convince the world that all hunters are this cruel. I 266 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: know all you out there who've had success during the 267 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: rut are in fighting your non hunting friends over for dinner, 268 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: But maybe invite a couple more and we'll try to 269 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: counterbalance the lows at least a little bit. Now here's 270 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: the dirty side of the world. Gang. There are areas 271 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: of the country from Alaska, Hawaii all the way down 272 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: to our southern states where folks who did not heed 273 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: old Bob Barker's advice and spay and new to your animals, 274 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: they get sick of them. They discard them in rural 275 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: communities and they will pack up and attack wildlife. And 276 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: it is like it's a real thing in areas, like 277 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: they are feral dog packs, and it unfortunately goes to 278 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: animal control people to eradicate those populations. So these folks 279 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: are bypassing the shelter system and they're just dumping them 280 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: out on farm roads and letting those animals fend for themselves. 281 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: And if they don't get taken on by carrying citizens 282 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: in our rural communities, they can turn into real pests 283 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: and drains on our natural wildlife. This particular situation involves 284 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: a dog with a GPS collar and who knows what 285 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: the real deal is, but again not cool gang. Moving 286 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: on to the money desk, the Vermont Department of Fish 287 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: and Wildlife is pursuing a solution to their chronic funding problem. 288 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: The Associated Press reports that they plan to require hikers, birdwatchers, kayakers, 289 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: and anyone else who uses state land to buy a 290 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: recreation license. For the last one hundred years, conservation has 291 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: been paid for by hunters and trappers and anglers, said 292 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: Andrea short Sleeve, the department's chief of operations. Now we're 293 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: trying to get everyone else who is using and benefiting 294 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: from those areas to also pay in This license won't 295 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: be financially burdensome. The proposal calls for a five dollars 296 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: license to access the land for the day, and only 297 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: twenty dollars if you want an annual permit. They hope 298 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: to begin enforcing this new requirement by twenty twenty seven. 299 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: While most states charge entrance fees to access state parks, 300 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: most do not require so called non consumptive which is 301 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: a total misnomer. To pay to birdwatch or height Vermont 302 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: would be unusual, but not totally unprecedented. Here in Montana, 303 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: people who want to access many state lands are required 304 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: to purchase a conservation license. They're eight dollars for residents, 305 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: ten dollars for non residents, and they're required for anyone 306 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: accessing state land, even if they're just wildlife watching. As 307 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: the number of hunters and anglers relative to the population 308 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: continues to decline, state wildlife agencies will have to think 309 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: of creative ways to generate revenue. This is one of them, 310 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: and we'll see if more states fall Vermont and Montana's lead. 311 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: Colorado and Utah have also been battling with this program. 312 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: It's important to note here that hunters and anglers nationwide 313 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: are declining relative to the population. Now in certain areas, 314 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: like I'll tell you right now, the state of Montana 315 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: that number is very high. The hunting angling community is 316 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: very high, especially when you get into hunting season. You 317 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: have a lot of traveling anglers, traveling hunters, but nationally 318 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: on average, that's the fact Jack. The Trump administration recently 319 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: announced its latest pick for the head of the BLM, 320 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: former congress member and head of the New Mexico Republican Party, 321 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: Steve Pierce. This nod comes after Trump's previous nominee for 322 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: the post, oil and gas lobbyist, Kathleen Scamma, withdrew from 323 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: consideration back in April after a social media post came 324 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: to light condemning the January sixth insurrection. Trump's new choice 325 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: also has a background in oil and gas, having started 326 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: and then selling an oil field services company. Pierce served 327 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: in the New Mexico House of Representatives, then in US 328 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: Congress for many years, with failed bids for the US 329 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: Senate and for the governorship of New Mexico. So how 330 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: is Pierce likely to do as head of the BLM? 331 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: For obvious reasons, he's likely going to be accommodating to 332 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: the oil and gas industry, we can guess, and he's 333 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: on record denying climate change. But is he a rabid 334 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: opponent of all public lands like William Perry Pendley. As 335 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: we used to say, WPP you know me who was 336 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: the head of the BLM from July twenty nineteen to 337 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: September twenty twenty, I should say sitting head. I don't 338 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: believe he was ever confirmed. And the answer is nobody 339 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: can tell. We can't predict the future, and Pierce may 340 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: or may not be confirmed. We shall see. We know 341 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: he's going to have his hands full. The BLM has 342 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: been without a permanent head for months, and there have 343 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: been a series of controversies there since Trump took office. 344 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: In April, the BLM's Deputy director for Administration and Programs, 345 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: Mike ned had to be escorted out of his office 346 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: after opposing staffing changes ordered by a doze employee. And 347 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: as recent history tells us, is going to be a 348 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: busy few years for public lands issues. No doubt we 349 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: are going to have to keep a close eye on 350 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: the BLM under anybody's leadership right now, but that's no 351 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: different under any administration. I am skeptical, if you want 352 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: my personal opinion, skepticism aside where the rubber hits the road, 353 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: BLM is an incredible resource. The Bureau of Land Management. 354 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: All that stuff out there, the quote unquote flat nothing 355 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: out there, valueless stuff that we were pitched during the 356 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: reconciliation fight is unbelievable. It is an American treasure. We 357 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: can't even fathom how valuable it is to our nation. 358 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: This guy Pierce becomes the sitting or acting or actual 359 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: director of the BLM, He's got a hell of a job, 360 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on him. And all that matters 361 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: to me is not the guy's background or his track 362 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: record up until now. It's what happens when he's in 363 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: that seat. And one thing I'll tell you is there's 364 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: a lot of folks in DC who have no idea 365 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: what the resource actually is, and it's up to us, 366 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: the American people, to keep them informed. That's our duty. 367 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: And it's three sixty five, seven days a week. And 368 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: moving on to the Japanese bear desk. As you might guess, 369 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: since I pitched my idea for Wasabi bear spray back 370 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: in early October, the Japanese bear attacks desk has spun 371 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: completely out of control. As of this writing, there have 372 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: been more than two hundred and twenty bear attacks and 373 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: thirteen deaths so far. This fiscal year across Japan by 374 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: far the most in recorded history from the last month 375 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: alone is twenty year old man gathering mushrooms was decapitated. 376 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: Remember that thing I said about bears and heads. A 377 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: seventy eight year old woman was mauled to death while 378 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: taking out her trash, and a former women's professional wrestling 379 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: referee who had retired to work at a rural spa 380 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: you know that old tale was pulled into the forest 381 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: and killed while cleaning an outdoor bath. Three people died 382 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: in the span of a single week. Non fatal attacks 383 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: are happening at a rate of almost one every other day, 384 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: including a New Zealand born marathon runner who had both 385 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: bones of his forearm broken cleaned through, and an eighty 386 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: five year old woman who was attacked while washing radishes 387 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: at a tap outside her farmhouse. Where do you draw 388 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: the line? One bear, after mauling a man in the 389 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: city of Yazawa late last month, hold up in a 390 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: house for six whole days before it was finally captured 391 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: by a hunting association. Home and business invasions have become commonplace, 392 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: with one bear in northwest Tokyo entering a supermarket and 393 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: clearing out the sushi section. The attacks are affecting all 394 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: parts of Japanese society. A forthcoming movie entitled Haiguma or 395 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: Brown Bear, Don't Forget the exclamation mark about workers in 396 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: the gig economy, was scheduled to be released this month, 397 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: but is now being pushed back to early next year 398 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: because of the crisis. With bear hibernation not likely to 399 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: take place until late December, officials are getting desperate. The 400 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: governor of Akita Prefecture traveled to Tokyo recently to meet 401 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: with the Japanese military known as the Self Defense Force 402 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: or SDF, to get help with the problem. Several news 403 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: outlets reported that the army would be coming into help 404 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: with a bear call, but to the disappointment of nine 405 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: year old boys everywhere, there will be no tanks rolling 406 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: in to do battle with swarms of angry brown bears, 407 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: not even giant ones that ravaged cities. SDF interventions will 408 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: be strictly non lethal, and forces have now been deployed 409 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: to Akda to plan for more systemic bear control measures 410 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: and protection of local bear hunters. This isn't the first 411 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: time the Japanese military has scrambled to respond to wildlife threats. 412 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: Starting in twenty eleven, SDF troops traveled to the northern 413 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: island of Hokkaido to reduce over population of Sika deer. 414 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: Flying helicopter connaissance missions and transporting deer killed by local 415 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: hunting associations was their assignment. This time around, they'll assist 416 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: in setting up bear traps and will lend other logistical support, 417 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: but those same licensed hunters associations will be pulling the trigger. 418 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: The licensed hunters are also getting a significant bump and pay. 419 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: The town of Ba in Hokkaido is now paying bear 420 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: hunters an hourly rate of four thousand yen or twenty 421 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: six bucks an hour, up from just ten dollars an 422 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: hour in twenty eleven going out on the Alaskan Peninsula. 423 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: What a ripoff, man we had to pay to do that. 424 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: We can go to Japan, see all the cool stuff 425 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: there and get paid to hunt brown bears. Son of 426 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: a busy hunters who bag a bear in Ba will 427 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: now earn sixty thousand yen or just under four hundred 428 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: bucks per bear, versus about one hundred and twenty five 429 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: dollars for a bear in twenty eleven. Towns across northern 430 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: Japan are now offering similar rates, but are struggling to 431 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: attract hunting associations and asking for assistance from the national 432 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: government to pay for them. Ironically, Japan has some serious 433 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: bear hunting heritage. The Anu people of northern Japan built 434 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: their entire culture around a yearly bear festival that celebrated 435 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: successful hunts. Bears were so central to Anu culture that 436 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: if hunters killed Asawa cubs, those cubs were often taken 437 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: from the den and raised in captivity. There are several 438 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: documented cases of Inu women nursing bear cubs who were 439 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: too young to eat solid food. You also may have 440 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: pricked up your ears when I mentioned the name Akida, 441 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: the prefecture in the north of Japan. That name was 442 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: given to the Akita dog, the famous bear hunting breed 443 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: of the Matagi people, who still hunt bears in the 444 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: protected beach forests of the region. The number of traditional 445 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: Matagi hunters has been in steep decline over the past 446 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: several decades, but several of them are now offering their 447 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: services across Japan. Who knows, maybe this growing problem will 448 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: revive some of those hunting practices, and maybe instead of 449 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: paying professional hunters, Japan might look across the ocean to 450 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: a place where hunters will gladly pay into a system 451 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: of regulated hunting and feed themselves in the process. But 452 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: you know, before I get too proud of American hunting, 453 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: I do have to remember how crazy Americans get when 454 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: you propose a bear season in New Jersey or Florida 455 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: or Connecticut. But seriously, my Japanese friends, please call me, 456 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: email me, ask Clascal at themeaeater dot com. Man will 457 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: come help you out, even just as an observer. Moving 458 00:27:55,600 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: on to the mailbag desk, listener Scott Patterson wrote in 459 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: with a fascinating topic from the other side of the pond, 460 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: There is a tradition in Scotland that calls on ten 461 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: men from the village of Ness on the Isle of 462 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: Lewis to travel by boat to an uninhabited island called 463 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: Sulascurr each August. These ten men make the forty mile 464 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: trip through the rough North Atlantic to hunt gannets, which 465 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: are large white seabirds. More specifically, these men are looking 466 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: for googa, which is the Gaelic word for young gannets. 467 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: The gouga hunt, as it's known over there, has been 468 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: happening since the fifteen hundreds. The men who participate in 469 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: the hunt today sleep in the same stone dwellings their 470 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: ancestors made, and they pursue the cold, difficult work in 471 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: much the same fashion. They capture the young birds, kill them, 472 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: pluck them, and preserve the meat with salt for the 473 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: trip back to the village. Anyway, Scott wrote in tell 474 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: me about this hunting tradition because it's under attack. There's 475 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: a campaign to in the hunt, led by an animal 476 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: rights group called Protect the Wild. They argue that the 477 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: this is cruel, inhumane, and not sustainable, even though the 478 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: same hunt has been taking place for literally five hundred years. 479 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: It's also governed today by modern wildlife management regulations, so 480 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: there's even less chance that it hurts the larger gannet population. 481 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: This is a cultural hunting tradition like any other, and 482 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: even though almost none of us will have the chance 483 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: to participate, it deserves to be protected. Thanks for letting 484 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: us know about this, God, and if you live over 485 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: that way, make your voice heard. One thing you gotta 486 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: know a gang is our natural resources are sustainable. That 487 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: does not mean we cannot eradicate them from the face 488 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: of the earth. It's the job of hunters, conservationists to 489 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: demand proper management of these resources, and that in itself 490 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: is too broad of a statement. Demand the proper management 491 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: of these resources far into the future. We're talking multi generations, right. 492 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: These folks have been doing it for five hundred years 493 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: and that's a drop in the bucket. Don't settle for sustainable. 494 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: It's sustainable for how long we want it forever. That's 495 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: all I got for you. Thank you so much for listening. 496 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: Remember to write in to ask C. A. L. That's 497 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: Ascal at themeeteater dot com. Let me know what's going 498 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: on in your neck of the woods. You know we 499 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks again, we'll talk to you next week.