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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: It's the almost Famous podcast. We're back with another Franky Friday. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: season four of the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives dropped

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Speaker 2: on Hulu.

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Speaker 3: Ashley, will you be watching it this weekend?

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Speaker 4: I still have to watch the rest of season two

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Speaker 4: and three and then four. Guys, that's a lot of

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Speaker 4: Mormon Wives to you're watching before Bachelorette, and I must

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Speaker 4: you know why because this season pertains so very much

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Speaker 4: to the Bachelorette. So many storylines about Taylor's life going

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Speaker 4: into the season and where she was with Dakota. Uh,

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Speaker 4: we have a spoiler in this rundown that I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: have to say, like spoiler alert, guys. This is a

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Speaker 4: spoiler as far as like if you haven't watched season

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Speaker 4: four yet, which you probably haven't, being that again, it

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Speaker 4: dropped today, but there's something that happens on the episodes

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Speaker 4: and it's like, oh wow, that is a perfect cliffhanger

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Speaker 4: to go into the Bachelorette. All right, Ben, So our

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Speaker 4: first headline is Taylor being on the cover of US Weekly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm taking from this, Ashley, What

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Speaker 2: I mean Taylor's beautiful in this.

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Speaker 3: It's a great picture.

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Speaker 2: You always can tell what the show storyline they're pushing

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Speaker 2: us towards based on what pr is kind of allowing

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Speaker 2: to be said. They're really gonna fall into this unpredictable

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Speaker 2: storyline for Taylor Frankie Paul, which means I think she's

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Speaker 2: gonna be unpredictable, which I want and like going into

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Speaker 2: this season is something unexpected twists and turns her not

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Speaker 2: just follow along. She's actually gonna be a lead, and

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Speaker 2: I think leads make things unpredictable when they actually lead

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Speaker 2: a show.

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Speaker 4: Well, Ben, I read this Q and a that they

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Speaker 4: have in the Weekly. There are a few things that

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Speaker 4: I want to point out, a few bullet points, but

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Speaker 4: I have to say my overall take is that I

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Speaker 4: do not think she picks anyone, just based on this interview,

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Speaker 4: and I think that it's going to be picking herself

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Speaker 4: in the end. I literally think that she's going to say,

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Speaker 4: I give the final rose to myself and a declaration

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Speaker 4: of self love.

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Speaker 3: Hey, okay, go for it.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to hear this? This is why, this

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Speaker 4: is what solidified that. How would you describe the ending

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Speaker 4: of the bachelorette. I felt lots of different emotions for

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Speaker 4: lots of different reasons. It ended in a tailor way.

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Speaker 4: Some people may know what that means and some may not.

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Speaker 4: What do you think from that, It's gonna be unpredictable,

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Speaker 4: So maybe I'm trying to predict something that is auvertuitable.

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Speaker 3: No, I think.

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Speaker 2: I think if I was to guess, I would fall.

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Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying, like if I was to assume,

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Speaker 2: it would be what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I also had read all the article before,

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Speaker 4: and that's the last question, and there are reasons that

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Speaker 4: that like also led me to that conclusion because listen,

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Speaker 4: this is a quote. I didn't have to do this.

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Speaker 4: There was no other reason for me having to do

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Speaker 4: this other than wanting to get outside of Utah and

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Speaker 4: the toxicity that I'm in and venture off and do

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Speaker 4: something for myself. Like when asked about her relationship with Dakota,

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Speaker 4: she said, you know, it was just so back and

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Speaker 4: forth for so long, and if I couldn't snap and

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Speaker 4: like she basically couldn't snap out of it. She said,

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Speaker 4: if I could snap out of it, trust me, I would.

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Speaker 4: It's just a lot harder said and done, and then

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Speaker 4: she also said something about like misconceptions about herself. I'm

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Speaker 4: a very soft, gentle person. Like if you see me

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Speaker 4: on the show like Secret Lives, like you get a

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Speaker 4: chaotic reaction, like a reactive, petty side of me. But

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Speaker 4: lover girl through and through. And that's why I'm here

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Speaker 4: Because as much as I feel pain with that I

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Speaker 4: have felt with love, I'm still here wanting to find it.

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Speaker 4: I have hope for it, and that's what I long for.

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Speaker 4: Like I literally think that there's so much of her

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Speaker 4: just wanting to get into the bachelorette role so that

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Speaker 3: And it's giving us clarity.

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Speaker 2: Actually it kind of leads us to the next headline,

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Speaker 2: but it gives us clarity on why she said yes

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Speaker 2: to the role. People have no not been confused by.

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Speaker 2: It makes sense, right, It's a good moment for her,

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Speaker 2: a whole new realm and fan base. That's all great,

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Speaker 2: but we always wondered, hey, does she actually want to

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Speaker 2: meet somebody? I think was a question, and this is

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Speaker 2: pointing to the the answer of yes. The next headline

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Speaker 2: says that she joined the Bachelorette to break free of

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Speaker 2: toxic relationships. This was a clean slate for her. This

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Speaker 2: goes outside of her network of friends from the Mormon

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Speaker 2: she's known growing up. And I think it makes sense

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Speaker 2: on why she said yes for the sake of a relationship.

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Speaker 2: She wants to get away from the toxicity. I think

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Speaker 2: that's wonderful.

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Speaker 4: No, I love that. I think that she she basically

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Speaker 4: because yes, it's so so true that she could like

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Speaker 4: she is not there for the wrong reasons because she

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Speaker 4: was already the lead of a reality show and then

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Speaker 4: she was given another awesome opportunity in the same realm.

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Speaker 4: Is it going to amp her up even further? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: But I also think like she was definitely huge reality star,

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Speaker 4: And she basically goes and she says that she didn't

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Speaker 4: need it, She says, I get this opportunity as a

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Speaker 4: and myself. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. That's

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Speaker 4: why I was there. And anyone that doesn't believe that,

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Speaker 4: that's their own issue. I truly believe this. This is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: It was why it maybe was a little bit confusing

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Speaker 2: she said yes to it. I think it's a great

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Speaker 2: a sense why so many other people say yes to

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Speaker 2: But I think deep down most people's reason for going

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Speaker 3: Ah, why not?

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Speaker 2: Like maybe this could work for me? Maybe I could

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Speaker 2: I think Taylor is falling right into that category, even

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Speaker 2: for so long. She also in this article answers the question.

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Speaker 2: The question is, prior to going on the show, did

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Speaker 2: you think it was possibly be in love with more

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Speaker 2: than one person at the same time? Ashley, Very interesting

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Speaker 2: question for Taylor to answer.

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Speaker 4: You cover this one because you've been in that situation

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Speaker 4: and been the starter of all this.

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Speaker 2: Her answer is, yes, I think I can be in

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Let's see what happens here. Our producer wrote a little note.

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Speaker 4: She goes, what if it ends with her proposing? And

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Speaker 4: I'm like, Eh, would that be the first time? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. And also let's make it.

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Speaker 3: Wait, didn't it somebody else?

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Speaker 4: I think that another girl like was like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: That, and we were so wrong.

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Speaker 4: She was married very young, so she's never really had

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Speaker 2: By the way, I was just kidding about us being

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Speaker 3: And that's okay with us. We're not.

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Speaker 2: We're not looking for, you know, the oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: And that bullet point made me think about what I thought,

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Speaker 4: it's more adjusting back to a very high rush situation

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Speaker 4: then having to go to do more filming for Mormon Wives.

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Speaker 4: I have a lot on my plate that I agreed

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Speaker 4: to do, plus being a mom of three. With my

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Speaker 4: mental health, it's sometimes a chemical imbalance. Nothing has to

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Speaker 4: of it. And then they go are you happy in

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Speaker 4: So I don't know. I just don't feel like I

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Speaker 4: with her right now. That's just my vote, my vibe. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: let's go into this next headline, which is our juicy

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Speaker 4: spoiler of the week. Again, this is a spoiler about

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Speaker 4: Mormon Wives, so you do not listen if you don't

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Speaker 4: want to be spoiled.

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Speaker 2: Dakota Mortensen claims he slept with Taylor Frankie Paul the

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Speaker 4: And it's really all there. You can read the whole synopsis,

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Speaker 4: but that is what he's saying. He went over to

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Speaker 4: some tidbits further into the episode about the fact that

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Speaker 4: Taylor had mentioned that she was ovulating when they slept together.

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Speaker 4: Ben's eyes just a lie.

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Speaker 3: I know what that means now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so he was afraid that she went off

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Speaker 4: to film Bachelorette pregnant, and then Taylor was basically like,

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Speaker 4: look at my stomach? Do I look pregnant? That was like,

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Speaker 3: Can I say something?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: And maybe I'm old school. Some would call me too

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Speaker 2: traditional in saying that, Like, hey, you know what, you

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Speaker 2: I understand. Do I think it was wise or smart? No,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, But I understand how you know,

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Speaker 3: It doesn't need to be anybody else's business.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously I concur but you know, he's also on

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Speaker 4: told me that the last time we did it, she

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Speaker 2: Maybe this will be the wildest and most unpredictable bachelorrete season.

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Speaker 3: That's what happened.

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Speaker 4: She finds out she's pregnant. No, I saw that girl's

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Next time line is we get a first low get

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Speaker 4: You know, and I'm not done talking about that. How nutty?

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Speaker 4: How nutty to just know that you're ovulating and then

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Speaker 3: No, maybe they use protection.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, all right, moving on, Heather goes, no, no condoms, Okay,

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Speaker 4: all right, yees, she just doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Care to talk to my neighbors. They had plenty, how

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Speaker 4: Oh? Okay, first look at Taylor's Night one, Ben, we

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Speaker 4: see these photos. You can see them online. Just type

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Speaker 4: it in, guys. It's just some pictures of her meeting

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Speaker 4: my god, guys, looks so much better. I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a problem, but I'm just being honest.

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Speaker 3: I hate that for them.

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Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul Takes All the Roses Away an official

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Speaker 2: Bachelorette trailer.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Taylor get it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this is a great teaser. So she tells Jesse

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Speaker 4: or at least that's what I'm assuming. Then she goes

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Speaker 4: you're still in contention to be eliminated tonight again assuming,

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Speaker 4: but it seems like she gets really annoyed at something

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Speaker 4: then of course Taylor's you know, Taylor Swifts, look what

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Speaker 4: you maybe do is playing throughout the entire thing, and

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Speaker 4: that makes everything a little bit more sassy and dramatic.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot of trailers so far, Ashley. All

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Speaker 2: of them get us very excited for the next season

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Speaker 2: of The Bachelorette. This has been another Franky Friday, breaking

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Speaker 2: down everything happening in the life and the world of

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Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul our season's next Bachelorette. So until next time,

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Speaker 2: I've been Ben.

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Speaker 4: I've been Ashley. See you guys.

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