1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: he got jacked. This is the Big Red Rain presented 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: by santan Ford in Gilbert. Harry's gonna score touchdown Slam 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford State Farm? 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts, Visit acy Cardinals dot Com, 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Slash podcasts, The Reds, Rising Guard, temperaturizing vision, flurring, rage 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: taking over. Here's Paul Calvc. I'm ready. I'm one hundred 11 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee, 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better than that, boy. Unleash the fiards. 13 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm speaking that into existence here off the top of 14 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage. Doubted you know, Wolf just for that. 15 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: When I graduated college, I swore that not only would 16 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: I never read another word of Shakespeare, but I would 17 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: never be the guy who quotes Shakespeare. Okay until now? 18 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: All right, what are you gonna do? Paul King Lear 19 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: Wolf and the famous quote from King lear and it 20 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: goes like this, and I do quote, nothing will come 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: of nothing. If you invest nothing, you will gain nothing. 22 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: And that brings us and I think capsualizes the offseason. 23 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: Invest in nih offseason, NFL, so thou shalt reap a 24 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: bountiful regular season. So the rest of the league doesn't 25 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: say wherefore art thou in the postseason? You went deep 26 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: right there, right off the top. Well, I saw the 27 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: rookie minicamp, which we're going to talk about, and then 28 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to Lucida Smith, that rare sixth rounder 29 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: who might actually make a run of some serious playing time. 30 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Just saying a little bit of a prediction. We'll see, 31 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: we'll talk to him. I think you'll be impressed with 32 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: Lucida Smith. We'll go from there. But Wolf, this is 33 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: where you guys put in that time that you hopefully 34 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: right and because once again, nothing will come up nothing 35 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: unless you get your keyster out there and make it happen. 36 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: That's right, Paula. You gotta have something. You got to 37 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: have something, even if it starts with nothing. And that 38 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: really is what the rookies are doing for the most part. 39 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: They're starting with nothing because if you don't know what 40 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: you're doing, Paul, really doesn't matter. All the goodness that 41 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: God has given you, all your physical abilities, your physical talent, 42 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: all of it, Paul, none of it matters if you 43 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing, all right, you need that roadmap. 44 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: You need to master the offense. You need to be 45 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: able to master the defense. You need to do that 46 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: before you can actually go out and perform. You know what. 47 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw on Acy Cardinals dot 48 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: com and the YouTube channel right, but there was a 49 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: wired of Trey McBride. We're gonna play a little clip, 50 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: but at the very end of the full piece, Cliff 51 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: Kingsbury says essentially that Wolf, I mean evidence of a 52 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: guy who spent ten years in the NFL locker room. 53 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: Because Cliff Kingsbury's message was, look at how much better 54 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: we were today than yesterday because everybody had that much 55 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: more of a grasp of the playbook and knew what 56 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: they were doing, and we're actually able to see the 57 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: athleticism guys. Guys weren't as much thinking as they were playing. 58 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: And so that is part of the challenge for the 59 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: rookies and Trey McBride, the highest drafted rookie in this 60 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: claft class in this second round. He was miked up 61 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: at Cardinals rookie camp. And here's a clip. Here we go, 62 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: here we go getting this ball. Damn, I got a 63 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: mug in my ear. You just got to tighten it 64 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: down on that on follow if you're number three, just 65 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: because you gotta get over there. Let's go here we 66 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: have ballade. He's the same palm trees football paradise. That's right. 67 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Come on, we gotta catch that man, catch the ball 68 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: all day. Bring it up, bring up, bring up, hey, 69 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: good job today, man, high energy, keep it up, man, 70 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: keep rolling team on three two three? About it a 71 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: montage from rookie camp, Tray McBride, you hear the football paradise. 72 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: That was a reference to what Cliff Kingsbury told him 73 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: over the phone when they drafted him as a kid 74 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: who was from Colorado, played at Colorado State, first team 75 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: All American. You're John Mackey Award winner, is the top 76 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: tight end in college ball. And there he is leading 77 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: the white little bit of leadership at rookie minicamp. Yeah. 78 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: I like that, PAULI. Of course, um he is the 79 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: highest pick, of course, in this year's draft day second rounder, 80 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: knowing that to the Arizona Cardlson Steve Come used Marquis 81 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: Brown to actually absorb the twenty third pick overhaul in 82 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: the first round. That was very nice. Um, Trey McBride, 83 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: I am jacked up on Polly, I really am, because 84 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: what is he six four paul, two hundred forty six 85 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: pounds is not what he is right there? Six four two. 86 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: That's interesting because George Kittle six four two fifty. I'm 87 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: just saying, Paul, I'm just saying, can you imagine right 88 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: now Trey McBride has a little something something coming out 89 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: of the side of his neck. I think his future 90 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: is not as a move tight end. I think his 91 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: future is as the why now he can play both 92 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: right now, Paully, And that's the great thing about it. 93 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: He can play both. So if you do get Max 94 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: Williams back, and you do have zach Ertz as that 95 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: move tight end guy, now all of a sudden you've 96 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: got a backup for either, or if something happens to 97 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: zach Ertz in a game he gets nicked up, or 98 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: maybe Max Williams. Now, all of a sudden, you got 99 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: a guy that you could plug in and who knows, Polly, 100 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: he may actually start coming out of training camp. Think 101 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: about this. He led d one tight ends with ninety 102 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: catches for over eleven hundred yards receiving right, it's pretty 103 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: good ball. But he told the media, you're gonna like this. 104 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: He told the media that over seventy percent of his 105 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: snaps and his job in college was blocking. Yes, so 106 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: think about the production. Despite the fact that, according to him, 107 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: more than two thirds of their time he's on the field, 108 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: he was required to block. Yes. Now, once again, you're 109 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to prove it to me, Polly. You know this. 110 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: You know how I feel about this. I was a 111 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: rookie once myself. I was a rookie once myself. I 112 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: came in. Not a lot of fan fair Paul, not 113 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: a lot of fans a fullback, and they didn't throw 114 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: a fourth round fullback. It was not a lot right there, 115 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: even though I was one hundred and fourth overall tasted, Polly, 116 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: there's a flex. I'm just saying. I wasn't. Yeah, I wasn't. 117 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: I came in, but man, I can't tell you how 118 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: many other rookies I've seen come in. Paul is a 119 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: ten year veteran in the National Football League, and man, 120 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: I had scouts telling me watch his kid. Watch this kid. 121 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: This kid is gonna change everything. And suddenly, you know what, 122 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: there was a problem because the scout thought he was 123 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: going to change the way we played football. He just 124 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: couldn't play. That was that was the problem. And I see, Paul, 125 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure you see the problem right there. Right. Well, look, 126 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: once upon a time the Cardinals took Troy Nicholas in 127 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: round two. Yes, and that was a specimen six six, 128 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: two fifty plus, get out of my way. And we 129 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: both remember standing there in his rookie camp, right, and 130 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: he was a little banged up to start, which pretty 131 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: much typified his entire career. But when he got healthy 132 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: in the middle of training camp, what did he do 133 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: in his first old line D line drill? He stood 134 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: up Darnell Dockett. Yeah, and we all said, whoa man. Now, 135 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: obviously his career did not materialize. So I'm not making 136 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: any sort of predictions here, but I am going to 137 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: share what Cliff Kingsbury said he likes about his rookie 138 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: tight end, Trey McBride. He's a smooth route runner. You know, 139 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: we won't know until he puts the pads On. We 140 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: watched the film. We love the physicality on tape, but 141 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: this is a different level. But as far as running routes, 142 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: great athlete, you know, three sports star in high school, 143 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: so it really has an ease about the way he 144 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: runs routes and does things. And here's what else the 145 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: head coach likes about Trey McBride. And this is according 146 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: to Trey McBride who shared with the meeting we talked 147 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: about this last week that coach Kingsbury would like to 148 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: disguise the offense a little bit more. And so if 149 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: you have a true duel tight end like a Max Williams, 150 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: a guy who comes in and isn't an automatic tell 151 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: whether you're gonna throw or run the football, well, you 152 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: know what more that more better if you will no 153 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: doubt about it, Pali. That is what is fantastic in 154 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: regard to going to more of two tight ends set. 155 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: And zach Ertz is a willing blocker. He's not a 156 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: why he's not a Max Williams. He's not going to 157 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: come off the ball and remove somebody forcibly against his will. 158 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: But zach Ertz is a guy that will stick his 159 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: face into the fan and now maybe you've got a 160 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: situation where Trey McBride could be that guy, Polly. I 161 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: just think this is the evolution that needs to happen 162 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: with this offense going forward. Do you know my thoughts 163 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: on this. I'm not saying that suddenly it's going to 164 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: look like every other offense in the National Football League 165 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: for the most part, where they really blend the shotgun 166 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: with putting quarterbacks under center. I don't think we're going 167 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: to see that dramatic of a change, but I do 168 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: believe we're going to see a lot more of two 169 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,359 Speaker 1: tight ends, and I think we need to look historically, 170 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: we've seen tight ends after the first round over the 171 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: past decade. The numbers say only nine. Only nine tight 172 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: ends have been selected in the first round over the 173 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: past decade, so that's usually where teams will start drafting 174 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: the tight end. Now, running back, we also know that 175 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: you can find a running back back on day two, 176 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: even day three, which brings us to Keyante Ingram, a 177 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: guy who I think beyond Trey McBride, has the best 178 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: chance to get on the field right away because behind 179 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: James Connor it is wide open. And Cliff Kingsbury was 180 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: asked about a six round running back out of USC. 181 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: Just a work ethic, the character, all those things checked 182 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: all the boxes. I can play special teams, big physical back, 183 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: and we just felt he fit what we do and 184 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: that role. That can be your third fourth guy that 185 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: plays special teams and can come in and played a 186 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: high level on offense as well. Right, So Wolf is 187 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: a guy who spent a decade in a running back room. 188 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: You tell me is a realistic You can think the 189 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: rookie can come in and challenge a Jonathan ward and 190 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: an Eno Benjamin. Yeah, Paully, I do believe that you 191 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: could come in and challenge. Will you actually win the spot? 192 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but it was interesting to 193 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: hear Cliff Kingsbury say that third or fourth spot? Was 194 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: it involved? He did say that it was a third 195 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: or Paul, He wasn't in the second spot. It was 196 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: that third or fourth you know what. I like that? 197 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: But is it a deference to the guys to you 198 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: know and Jonathan Warden? Oh, without a shot all of 199 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: a doubt. Yeah, you know what, Hey, listen, rook You're 200 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to come in and you're gonna have to 201 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: prove it. That's what I love right there. Cliff Kingsbury 202 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: given the rookie a little sugar, given him some acknowledgement, 203 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: and at the same time letting him know, hey man, 204 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: we're talking about third or fourth here. You know. I 205 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: love that. That's great. That's the way it should be. 206 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: Makeam learn it. By the way, it's prove it every day. 207 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Well that's always says, prove it, not one time, but 208 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: every day. Just prove it, Polly. That's all we need 209 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: right there, It implies every day. Episode thirty the Dave 210 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: Pash Podcast featuring Cardinals defensive end J. J. Watt, available now. 211 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: To catch up on all the episodes, follow the Day 212 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: Pash Podcast of a year preferred podcast provider. Get the 213 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: latest updates via Twitter at Pash pod. Fact. We'll hear 214 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: from jj Watt a little bit later in this edition 215 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: of The Big Red Rage. But this is going to 216 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: star Lacidas Smith. You're sixth rounder out of Virginia Tech. 217 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: We heard what Quentin Harris said about him, called him 218 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: a steel Pro Football Focus called him quote a steal. 219 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: Now you'll hear from the sixth rounder yourself, right, A 220 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: big guy with a nasty attitude. So that's a good start, 221 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: and he is next Lucida Smith on the Big Red 222 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert Jaw not selected 223 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: all right, So that was the Cardinals pick live from 224 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: Mexico City, Yes, international. It was being back to Las Vegas, where, 225 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: of course the draft was being conducted after the decision 226 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: was made from the Cardinals war room and phoned in 227 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: from Tempe, which is where we are now, Dignity Health 228 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: Training Center, the Arizona Cardinals, and right in front of 229 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: us in person is Licitas Smith, all six foot three, 230 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: fourteen pounds of him, and right off the top. Did 231 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: you ever think your pick would come from the south 232 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: of the border, No, sir, I actually did not think 233 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: it was gonna happen like that. But I'm very glad 234 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: he did. And I'm very glad I'm here, and I'm 235 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: glad they got your name right now. I am pronouncing 236 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: it right correctly. Yeah, so you are, because he is 237 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: a guy whose last name is seven letters, and it 238 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: gets butchered all the time. You know, how often do 239 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: people screw up laciitis all the time? And I'll tell 240 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: you what I get the most anxiety when you know, 241 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: I was in grade school and we have a substitute teacher, 242 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: because I know that teacher does not know how to 243 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: pronounce it and likely is gonna say it wrong. And 244 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: then now I got the whole classmaking jokes and stuff. 245 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: So what's the most common mispronunciation over the years. I 246 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: think lositissitis or no lectis. I give that a good 247 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: bit that sounds biblical almost lectis, Like, you know, that's 248 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: so so okay. It's been like, I mean, you've been 249 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL now ever since your name was called right, 250 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: two three weeks, right, what sort of whirlwind has your 251 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: life been like? It's actually been very very cool. Um, 252 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: it's been an eye opening experience. You know, being on 253 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: the outside of the NFL, it just kind of seems like, oh, 254 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: there's this huge uproar within the NFL from fans and 255 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: stuff like that when a draft comes around, and then 256 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: next thing you know, boom, it's time to play preseason 257 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: games and it's time for the season. But I'm actually 258 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: being a part of it. You get I get to 259 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: see day by day when our professional athletes have to 260 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: go through as far as you know, being in a 261 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: playbook all the time, making sure you're where you're supposed 262 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: to be when you're supposed to be there making sure 263 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: you're doing all the right things, making all the right 264 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: calls and the right checks, you know. So it's actually 265 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: really cool to be um behind the scenes and see 266 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: how everything works. Like I said, glad to be here. 267 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: By the way, take us behind the scenes on draft day. 268 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: What was the phone call like on your end? We 269 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: heard the call in Cardinal's flight plan and you were 270 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: adamant when you were talking to the GM Steve Kime, 271 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: and I'm looking to the quote here you were saying, 272 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent and ready. I'm telling 273 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: you I'm ready, quote unquote. So what was it like 274 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: on your end? It was, Actually it was. It was 275 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: very cool once I actually got the call, because trust me, 276 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: once that sixth round came around and I'm sitting back 277 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: and I see some you know, guys going ahead of me, 278 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I may go undrafted. Like 279 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: I was sitting and I'm like, oh man, how is 280 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: this gonna happen? This is so crazy. But um, at 281 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it did happen, and when 282 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: it did, I was really at shock. Um. I did 283 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: not think it was gonna be Arizona like I said, 284 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm very glad it was. I'm happy to be here 285 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: and being coached by coach Coogler, you know some of 286 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: those other coaches, even the special teams coaches. But like 287 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: I said, I'm glad it happened. I'm glad it happened here. 288 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was. It was definitely shocked. It was shocked. 289 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: Our guests, Lucida Smith, Cardinal's sixth round pick of Virginia Tech. 290 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: What are you most curious to find out about the NFL. 291 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm actually curious about what it's like when camp comes 292 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: around and now you actually get on the field with 293 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: the big dogs. Because we've had Ricky Mine Camp, which 294 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: is a three day camp for US younger guys. The 295 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: older guys weren't even in town, and now we have 296 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: some of the older guys, but the OG veterans aren't 297 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: even here yet. So you still have guys like Beecham 298 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: and and Kyler Murray and just guys you know who 299 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: you know still aren't here yet who I have yet 300 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: to meet. So when when those guys get into town, 301 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: I know it's it's on. Take me to Cardinals training camp. 302 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: Have you had the thought there's gonna be an old 303 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: line D line drill, full pads, full contact, and there's 304 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: a chance that i could line up in a three 305 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: point stance and I'm staring straight across at ninety nine 306 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: J J. Watt. That's gonna be a welcome to the 307 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: NFL moment, won't it? Yes? I think it will be. 308 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm anna pray that it won't. I'm an pray that 309 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't teach me a lesson right there 310 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: and you know, right after that point. But um, I'm 311 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: gonna definitely try to hold my own. I mean, the 312 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: guy is definitely a legend, undoubted Leah Hall of Famer, 313 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: So I mean, I hope he can teach me a 314 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: thing and two from that rep or those reps I'll 315 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: take against him. But it's definitely like I'm gonna be 316 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: staying across looking like, oh my god, I'm about to 317 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: take a rep from JJ Wise. It's gonna be crazy, hey, J. Look. 318 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys has been there many times going against Chandler Jones, 319 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: the Cardinals starting left tackle, and he's told us in 320 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: this very show how much better Chandler Jones made him 321 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: as a young guy, and he knew if he could 322 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: hold his own against Chandler Jones. He was ready to 323 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: go for the regular season. He was ready to go 324 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: for the rest of the schedule. And look, I'm not 325 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: saying you're not capable. I mean there's been a lot 326 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: of praise when it comes to you in your career 327 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: at Virginia Tech. In fact, the VP of Player Personnel, 328 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: Quentin Harris, was on the Passpod recently and he was asked, 329 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: okay by Dave, you know, give us a guy from 330 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: day two or day three in this Cardinal's draft class 331 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: that stands out to you. I really like Lucida Smith, 332 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: our guard we took out of Virginia Tech. This guy 333 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: is athletic, he's an excellent pooler. He's tough, he's physical, 334 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: and a lot of times, you know, you watch NFL 335 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: lineman and you're like, ah, he's tough, he's strong, but 336 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: he's slow footed. This guy is everything. He was a 337 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: still in my opinion for us. He went on to 338 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: say that he also likes your temperament. And when I 339 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: looked at one of the Scotter reports on you, I 340 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: think it was NFL dot Com. One of the things 341 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: they listed first, what's plays with an attitude? True or false? 342 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: Very true, very true. And what does that mean? Translate that? 343 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: The way I think about it is, you know, once 344 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: it's time to step in between those white lines, and 345 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm biting down on my mouthpiece and I'm 346 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: ready to go. Where this a run play? Hopefully it's 347 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: a run play. You know, offensive lineman love run plays. 348 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: Hopefully it's a run play. And like I said, I'm 349 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: ready to go. Whether it's a double team or I'm 350 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: working alone against a three technique or whatever it may be, 351 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: it'll be me against that other guy and me trying 352 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: to finish him, and not only to do my job, 353 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: but do it very well to the point where I 354 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: finish him. He can't affect to play whatsoever. That's just 355 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: kind of the mentality I have at the end of 356 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: the day. Just make sure my man does not affect 357 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: the play. And I think that if every you know, 358 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: all five guys up front had that mentality, we can 359 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: definitely run for a lot of yards, which I mean 360 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals do that every year anyway, so I won't 361 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: be nothing new for them. And if you finish that play, 362 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: are you vocal about it or your trash talker? You 363 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: know what? Surprisingly, No, some people may think I am, 364 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: especially with the nastiness I play with. But no, and 365 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: that's for two reasons. For one, I'm not a very 366 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: good trash talker. For two, it usually backfires. So I 367 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, get to mouthing off at 368 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: a guy and that he makes a play and I'm like, 369 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: dake it. I should have never said what I just said, 370 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: Like you know. So those are really the two reasons 371 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: that I don't. You know, I may get really I 372 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: guess into it or filled with a journalist where I 373 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: finish a guy and I get up and I'm just 374 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: I'm grunting, I'm feeling it. But nine times out of 375 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: and I don't really go off at a guy. I 376 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: don't get to mount an at a guy. We're on 377 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: board with Lucida Smith Cardinals, rookie old lineman out of 378 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. All right, So this is what I find 379 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: interesting is that Steve Kim talked about how powerful you 380 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: are as a run blocker, said you're a great pulling 381 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: guard plane in space as well. We'll get to that 382 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: in a moment. But in the same sky report a 383 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com it said that you're better in pass 384 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: protection than as a run blocker. But when you were 385 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: asked for your strength with the media, you said, I 386 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: pack a punch in the run game, and I come 387 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: off the ball with a lot of power. So were 388 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: there skyter reports out there that you sort of shook 389 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: your head at during the process? They wait, a minute, 390 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: where are they getting this? Or do you feel like 391 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: you have to dispel anything that was out there pre draft? Yes, sir, 392 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: crazy enough. I did see at one point that are 393 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: heard at one point that some teams are concerned with 394 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: my weight, that I may have a weight problem. I 395 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: never had a weight problem. Ever, as a former tight end, 396 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: I find that surprising that you'd have a weight problem 397 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: exactly you play at three fourteen or so. Yes, okay, 398 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: So I don't know where they get that from. What's 399 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: funny is even going into my last season at Virginia Tech, 400 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: my fifth year of Virginia Tech, I've seen a lot 401 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: of articles that stated that I was pretty good in 402 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: the run game, but talking about my lack of I 403 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: guess ability in the passing game. So that was something 404 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: I focused on that last season at Virginia Tech, and 405 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: that's why I think coming out there were a few 406 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: teams that touched on or just a few reports that 407 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: touched on the fact that, you know, I looked pretty 408 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: good in the passing game. That was something I really 409 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: wanted to get better at, so people didn't think I 410 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: was a guy. I was just gonna be really good 411 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: in the run scheme and a problem in the passing game. 412 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: How much weight did you have to gain to go 413 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: from tight end to old line? I think I put 414 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: on about fifty five to sixty pounds because I was 415 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty pounds and I ended up at 416 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: three fifteen. How would you do that? You know, when 417 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: I first got the Virginia Tech. When I first got 418 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: there was a tight end. They kind of gave me 419 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: that option to you know, they tried me out a 420 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: tight end and they were going to see how it 421 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: worked out. So I was on a treadmill every day 422 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: even after workout, was getting extra runs, and just you know, 423 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: when we go to the Dinah Hall and I'm going 424 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: with you know, my class, the class that I came 425 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: in with some of the guys. We go there and 426 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm eating a salad. Everybody else has chicken and other things, 427 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: and I'm eating the salad. So when that switch actually happened. 428 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: I was pretty happy about it. I embraced it, so 429 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, I was able to sit at the table 430 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: with the offensive line and with the big dogs and 431 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: eat steak and shrimp and the whole nine, and you know, 432 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: didn't have to feel bad about it. I was able 433 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: to get that weight up it. It wasn't very hard 434 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, it sounds like you enjoyed it, sir, 435 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: Well Ceter Smith, our guest Cardinals rookie offensive lineman, you 436 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: still have the hands, by the way, as a former 437 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: tight end, I mean, could you be like a goal 438 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: line option and sort of a you know, a jumbo 439 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: package without a doubt, without the simeon any route I'm 440 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: routing anybody up. The hands are still there. See that's 441 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: how your team up with jj wat because he was 442 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: part of the mega Watt package last year and a 443 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: goal ie deal. And you think he has three touchdown 444 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: catches in his career. So the two of you might 445 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: be a good combo this year. Let's see this on 446 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: how about off the field? Give us a Scott report 447 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: because speaking of eating, uh, your rumored to have a 448 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: YouTube cooking show. Yes, sir, I do. Me and my 449 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: girlfriend heaven m so we actually started the channel during COVID. 450 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: We were stuck in the house like everybody was, didn't 451 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: have much to do, couldn't really get out like we 452 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: want to m So after, you know, I wake up 453 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: every morning, of course I get my workout there. We'd 454 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: probably do some cardio, going to hike us something, and 455 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: then after that we're just back at the house. So, um, 456 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, she kind of came up with the idea, 457 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: what if we start a YouTube channel, So it kind 458 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: of started off with funny just a little funny VIDs 459 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But yes, I do love to cook. Um. 460 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: I believe we did upload a cooking video on there. 461 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: She actually wanted to do one before I left to 462 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: come here because she's back in Blacksburg, but we didn't 463 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: get around of that, but we will soon. Do you 464 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: have a specialty because the Old Line has an annual 465 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: cook off led by the head coach or the Old 466 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Line coach Sean Coogler, right, and and he fashions himself 467 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: as a foodie and also the owner, Michael Bidwell has 468 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: been caused come in as a judge. And I think 469 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys is a reigning champion. By the way, the 470 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: left tackle. But if you were to give him a run, 471 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: what dish would you prepare? Um, I think I have 472 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: a pretty good recipe for pork chops, so I'd definitely 473 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: do pork chops with a side of with a side 474 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: of white rice. I may go with either baked broccoli 475 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: or baked asparagus, one of the two. But it's really 476 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: really good, by the way, as you might guess, I've 477 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: never played offensive line over here. Okay, Paul Pencilnick, Okay, 478 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: So what is the best thing and the worst thing 479 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: about being a big guy? All you guys in the 480 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: old line room, right, and you're in the ninety nine 481 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: percentile all the world in terms of size. What's something 482 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: that's really good about being big? And what is something 483 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: that just stinks about being a big guy? Am I 484 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: putting you on the spot with that question, Lasidas, No, 485 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: not exactly. But something ain't good about being a big 486 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: guy is especially playing football. I mean, you're usually rolling 487 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 1: guys off the ball. You're a guy that went it's 488 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: time to lift. You don't have to go on the 489 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: rack with the smaller guys and the scale guys, and 490 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, do the little weights. You get to lift 491 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: with the big guys or the big dogs. Um, something 492 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: that sucks plane travel like a coach ticket. That's got 493 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: to be a travel Oh my goodness, that's a great one. 494 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking that. That's the really outside the 495 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: box one that's see. For me, every seat is a 496 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: first class seat. That's great, you know, because I had 497 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: plenty of room. But a guy like you, that man, 498 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: that's gotta be misery, right, yes, sir, it is all right. 499 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: So last thing for Lucida Smith here is wrap it 500 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: up on the big red rage. You heard the words steel. 501 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: That was Quinn Harris. Pro Football Focus had you as 502 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: the eighth best interior old lineman in the entire draft. 503 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: They called you, quote a steel for Arizona. Do you 504 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: feel like you're a steel for this team? I mean, 505 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 1: that's something I never really thought about. Um, I do 506 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 1: feel like pretty good at what I do. But at 507 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: the same time, it's kind of weird to say, only 508 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: because all I've done was at the college level, So 509 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: I can't say I'm good at what I did at 510 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: the college levels. All I'm trying to say having made 511 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: my mark, having did a thing in the NFL. So 512 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: I can't sit up here and say, oh, I'm this 513 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: and that guard or you know, interior office of lineman 514 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I'm this and that. Good I 515 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: can't speak on that. What I can't say is I'll 516 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: go out here every single day with my guys or 517 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: my teammates, gained their trust and give them all every 518 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: single practice and strive to be the best player I 519 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: can be. So as far as it steal some I 520 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: never really thought about, but at the end of the day, 521 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: I do want to be the very best I can be. 522 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 1: It's a great answer. We appreciated everything here. Thank you, 523 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: and good luck going forward here. Thank you very much. Okay, 524 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: there you go. Lucida Smith will come back and continue 525 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: with a big red rage presented by Santan four and Gilbert. 526 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: Give him to Henry. Hitting the backfield by J. J. 527 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: Watt who got off a block and drags it down. 528 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: Knocked down and complete. It's j J Watt got his 529 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: hands up, he bumbles them all. It's Lows on the 530 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: far side another takeaway. J J. Watt force the fumble 531 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: leveled in the backfield by JJ Watt. J J. Watt 532 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: gets the penetration white at the point of attack. Hitting 533 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: the backfield and down he goes for a loss. Jj 534 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: Watts snailed him in the eighteen yard line. Mitchell running 535 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: straight ahead gets dropped for a loss. Jj Watt in 536 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: the backfield with the takedown penetration on the backside. That 537 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: is jj Watt baby tip then complete. It was Tim 538 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: and it was jj Watt who got it and the 539 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals stopped him on forchdown again. When healthy, jj Watt 540 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: was a playmaker. He was a difference maker over the 541 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: first half of last season for the Arizona Cardinals, and 542 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: not only on the field but on the sideline as well. 543 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: I can tell you that much. It is a big 544 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: red rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert will get 545 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: to jj Wat some of his comments to day pass 546 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: on the Pash podcast. But we brought up jj Watt 547 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: with Lucida Smith Wolf, the six round rookie offensive lineman. 548 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: He said, yeah, that's gonna be a welcome to the 549 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: NFL moment if he has to square off against ninety 550 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: nine and no line D line drill in training camp. 551 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: But what I'll struck you about the interview with Lucidas, Boy, Polly, 552 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: that is a great question because honestly, you know, I 553 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: think he's a square dude. And when I say a 554 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: square dude, I mean literally square, and I also think 555 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: he's squared away. He is a square dude. Ball six three, 556 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: three hundred fourteen pounds. Man, you look at him, his shoulders, 557 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: his hips, his but everything lines up where he is 558 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: a square guy. But also, Polly, I have to tell you, man, 559 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: the articulation, how articulate he was. Intelligent? Yeah, confident man. 560 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Polly. He sounds like one of 561 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: those classic offensive line But his temperament is something that 562 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: really is something that is very intriguing as well, because 563 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: I want to see him brawl. And when I say braul, 564 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: I don't mean get into a fight. I mean go 565 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: out there and try to forcibly remove somebody from the 566 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, because according to Lucidis, that's what he 567 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: does and that's who he is. In fact, his answer, 568 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: I said, you know these scatter reports say you play 569 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: with an attitude, true or false? He said, true, very true, 570 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: very true. If you know, if you go on YouTube 571 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: and you look for some of the micd up Virginia 572 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: tech stuff, you'll get a sense of just how intense 573 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: he is as articulate and thoughtful as he was in 574 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: that interview. Man, he does flip a switch between the 575 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: white lines. And what I loved about that, Pauli was 576 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: just the fact he said he wasn't a good trash talker. 577 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: He wasn't good, so he doesn't do it. You know that, Man, 578 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: that is an offensive alignment. For the most part, that 579 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: is a wise thing to do. You can have that temperament, 580 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: just don't open your mouth. There's nothing wrong with wanting 581 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: to drive somebody into the ground and lay on top 582 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: of him and slime block him after the play is over. 583 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with doing that. Just don't anger your opponent, 584 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: don't trash talk him. A lot of offensive lineman, I'm 585 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: telling you, paul I would say maybe ten percent, ten 586 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: percent of the offensive linemen I've played with in ten 587 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: years were trash talkers. The vast majority they stay silent. Well, look, 588 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: he's also smart enough to know that as a rookie, 589 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: you don't know what you don't know. So he wasn't 590 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: making any proclamations. In fact, he said it. He said 591 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: he'll know it's it's on when the big dogs come 592 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: into camp, when the veterans, when the JJ Watts the 593 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: Kelvin Beach Hims, the DJ Humphreys, when those guys show up. 594 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: Although he did say went about his hands, he said, 595 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: I still have the hands as a former tight end. 596 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: So that was the only post we really got out 597 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: of him was on the hands. So I thought that 598 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: was great too. Probably that's funny, but anyway, speaking to J. J. Watt, 599 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: you want great, just queue up the Day Pash podcast. 600 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: Take a listen, and you talk about young guys, the 601 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: last two first round picks for the Eros on our Cardinals, 602 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, Zaven Collins. We know how key and central 603 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: they are to the Cardinals defense and the Cardinal's success 604 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: overall this year. And JJ Watt was asked, just okay, 605 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: how can they excel? I think it's all about time 606 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: you put in, and I think it's about repetition and 607 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: just consistency. I think that the more time that you're 608 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: able to commit to the job and that you're able 609 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: to learn and grow, and the more time that you 610 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: have to learn the playbook and the plays and see 611 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: as many looks as possible, whether it's walk throughs, whether 612 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: it's practice, whether it's offseason program, training camp, whatever it 613 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: may be, and being able to do those things over 614 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: and over and over again, that's when you really get good. 615 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: I think that having an off season program is going 616 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: to help them a lot, because we haven't had one 617 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: true offseason program for a few years, especially since they've 618 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: been in the league. It is a legitimate question, though, 619 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: isn't it Well, especially as Collins is concerned, is that 620 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: mic linebacker replacing Jordan Hicks. Yeah. No, it's a huge, 621 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: huge issue. I would say going into training camp, one 622 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: of the things that we're going to be watching very 623 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: very closely the development of Zaven Collins. But you heard 624 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: JJ Watt right at the M PAULI he's exactly on 625 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: top of this thing. It's not a surprise because having 626 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: an off season where you've got Isaiah Simmons now who 627 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: can actually get out on the field and go through 628 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: his reps and get his reps and go through the 629 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: playbook and totally continue to grow in Zaven Collins, in 630 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: particular as a MIC linebacker, a guy that is probably 631 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: going to be wearing the green dot. I would imagine 632 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: this to me is imperative. This offseason is just as 633 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: important as the season Zaven Collins just went through for 634 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: his development. And then there's Kyler Murray, and of course 635 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: JJ Watt was asked about the development of the Cardinals 636 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: franchise orderback and how he takes the next step. Here's 637 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: j J. Watt with Dave Pash. He's done it, He's 638 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: played at extremely high level. I think it's just obviously 639 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: we need to finish out of season better. I think 640 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: that's not just him, and that's on all of us. 641 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: I think that it's being able to take us to 642 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: where we need to go from a playoff standpoint and 643 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: to go win a super Bowl. And every year in 644 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: the league, you get better, you mature, you have you 645 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: learn the game, you played differently a year to year 646 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: because you have more knowledge base, you have more experience, 647 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: you're a year mature and wiser. So I'm looking forward 648 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: to seeing his progress and looking forward to seeing the 649 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: step that he takes this season. That's what I want 650 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: to continue to see from Kyler Murray. Polly. I don't 651 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: know about you, but I think we'd all agree that 652 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: his rookie year to his second year, he got better. 653 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: Ye have no doubt. His second year to his third 654 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: year he got better. Yeah, I want to see him continue. 655 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about a guy that has been 656 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: to two Pro Bowls. But I still believe he can 657 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: be better. He's not a finished product. He's nowhere near it. 658 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: He can be better with the intangibles. He can get 659 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: better as a leader, he can get better in terms 660 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: of preparing to go out and play a game, even 661 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: though he's got this wild talent, this incredible talent. The 662 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: most improvement right now for Kyler Murray comes in between 663 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: the years. You know on Cardinals Underground the podcast this week, 664 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: well if I throw out a comparison, I said, you 665 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: know what the Cincinnati Bengals culture was in making a 666 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl run? It was Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow was 667 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: the culture. And to me, that's the next step for Kyler. Now, 668 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: it's a tall task, but if you're going to be 669 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: a forty million dollars a year quarterback, guess what it's 670 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: uni your job description. Yeah, you have to be the culture, 671 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: the guy who leads all the other guys who are 672 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: not the franchise quarterback and that and you know what, 673 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: you might be missing your marquee wide receiver in DeAndre 674 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 1: Hockkmins like you were the last half of last season, 675 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: and like you're going to miss him for the first 676 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: six games of this season, and you're gonna have to 677 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: figure that out, because you know what, the Aaron Rodgers 678 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: of the world, they make no name receivers into playmakers 679 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: and that's how you win games. And so Cliff Kingsbury 680 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: for the first time when it comes to DeAndre Hopkins 681 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: meeting the media after the draft and after the rookie minicamp, 682 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: and he was asked, Okay, your plans on offense dealing 683 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: with d hop and his suspension, Marquis will help. I mean, 684 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: he's a dynamic playmaker and we just had to play 685 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: better as an offense. It's unfortunate that he won't be available, 686 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: but I'm excited when we get him back. We struggled 687 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: the second half of the season, and you know, when 688 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: we get him back, I think that'll be a real 689 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: shot in the arm for that back half and I 690 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: know we'll get his best. How scared are you? Simply put, 691 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: the last we saw the Cardinals offense minus d hop 692 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't a lot to write home about. It was 693 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 1: a much different offense. What's your expectation the first six 694 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: games of this season? Yeah, you know what, paul I 695 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 1: should be scared. I should, but I'm not. I'm not. 696 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: In the reason being is because I believe there's going 697 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: to be a paradigm shift once again undown situation. I 698 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: think there's gonna be more two tight ends. I don't 699 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: think there's gonna be Listen, if the Cardinals suddenly start 700 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: trying to run more wide receivers onto the field after 701 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: losing their best wide receiver, I think you've got an issue. 702 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: But if they go ahead, Paulie and start running out 703 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 1: some two tight ends, a little bit more two tight 704 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: ends in rundown situation which is first and ten, second 705 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: and one to six, I really think this is going 706 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: to help them develop their base offense so that when 707 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: you get d hop coming back, he can just go 708 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 1: ahead and improve it, and you'll get him back there 709 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: in week seven. You'll get him on a short week 710 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: Thursday Night football against the Saints, So he's not even 711 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: gonna have a real practice man to go through. Although 712 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: if there's any player in NFL history who can excel 713 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: without practice, it's got to be DeAndre Hopkins, right, so 714 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,720 Speaker 1: go the end. Look, maybe we'll find out during training 715 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 1: camp because he's eligible all the way through the month 716 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: August and the preseason, we'll figure out what plan he has. 717 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: If you remember, Patrick Peterson would simulate game days. Every 718 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: Sunday those first six that he missed, he'd go out 719 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: and do his own three hour workout and simulate a 720 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: game day. So we'll see. And speaking of game days, 721 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal season tickets available now at asy cardinals dot 722 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: com slash season for all the information that's easy Cardinals 723 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: dot com slash Season. All right, we'll come back and 724 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: we'll continue in fact, speaking of that schedule, what's ahead, 725 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: And there was announcement today regarding the Cardinals schedule. All 726 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: that and more. Next The Big Red Rage presented by 727 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:43,479 Speaker 1: satan Ford and Gilbert. We are Santanford. Here's a little 728 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: story about Patrick Mahomes. I did his first game that 729 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: he started. We do that production mean, I'm talking to 730 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: Andy Reid and he says, the thing that surprised me 731 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: the most is that Patrick Mahomes has a photographic memory, 732 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: Like I can tell him something, you know, in training 733 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: camp week one, and he'll remember it in week fifteen, 734 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: you know. And when you combine his athletic ability, his 735 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: ability to throw the ball, how pretty that ball is, 736 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: his ability to escape and throw at different angles. And 737 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: then you combine that with this mind that can have 738 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,959 Speaker 1: this recall like a Tom Brady. Now you know why 739 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: he can be so good, and you think about the 740 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: future and what he could do. That was two years ago. 741 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: That's Jay Feeley, former Cardinals kicker now CBS Network analyst 742 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: on Patrick Mahomes in his conversation with Andy Reid, reminds 743 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 1: you Andrew luck who supposedly that Stamford big brain had 744 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: photographic memory as well. And that is app that little 745 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: clip right there, Ron Wolfley. As we continue and wrap 746 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: up this edition to the Big Red Rage brought to 747 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: you by santan Ford and Gilbert because the Earlson our 748 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals open with Patrick Mahomes in the Kansas City Chiefs. 749 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: In fact, let's just get right to a cliff. Kingsbarrow 750 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: was asked about Week one against his former Texas Tech quarterback. Yeah, 751 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: I was really thankful to the schedule makers for given 752 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: us a young quarterback that hadn't quite found his way 753 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: in the league just yet, you know, still trying to 754 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: figure it out. So no, it's it'll be fun. He 755 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 1: sent me like the little Imoji before it even came out, 756 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: so he'll be rebbed up. Will definitely have some Texas 757 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: Tech fans tune into that one. I'm sure. Yeah, that 758 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: former you know that Patrick Mahomes guy, former Super Bowl champion, 759 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: former MVP. You know the team that's hosted the last 760 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: four AFC Championship games, those Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, you 761 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: know what, PAULI is going to be really interesting though, 762 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: If in fact, I had my brothers, if you told me, Okay, 763 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 1: you're gonna play the Kansas City Chiefs, well, when would 764 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: you like to play the Kansas City Chiefs? I'd say 765 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: week one of the NFL season, really, week one, yes, indeed, Paul. 766 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: And the reason being is, especially when you're dealing with 767 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: an offense that is going to be trying to find 768 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: itself without Tyreek Hill, I will say week one, please, 769 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: because I really do believe without Tyreek Hill they're gonna 770 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: have to find a different way to play football offensively. 771 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: Even with Patrick Mahomes, I think Tyreek Hill is one 772 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: of these rare, rare individuals Paulli that impacts the defense 773 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: on every play that he's in the game, every play, 774 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: even when he doesn't have the ball. That's a big deal. 775 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: And you've got to learn how to play differently without 776 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. I'm not going to disagree with that. A 777 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: few years ago, when the Cardinals went to Kansas City, 778 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: every time Tyreek Hill would go in motion, the entire defense, 779 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: the front seven and beyond would lose their mind. Everyone 780 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: would start pointing at him. Okay, and everything would change accordingly. 781 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right on that. My hesitation or apprehension is 782 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals offense will be trying to find itself 783 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: minus d hop in Week one, So it's a daunting challenge. 784 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: That's a possibility, Paully. But go back and start looking 785 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years at some of the 786 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: upsets that happen in Week one of the NFL season. 787 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: Why is that? I think, listen, if you're gonna jump 788 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 1: up a team, if you're gonna surprise a team, that's 789 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: the best time to actually do it. And you know what, 790 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: that's a great point because maybe the best example was 791 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: the Cardinals Week one jack stomping at Tennessee last year. 792 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: There it is, Poli Hamedy. People gave the Arizona Cardinals 793 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: a chance of going in and beating the Tennessee Titans. Yeah, 794 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: that's the good news. The bad news is you open 795 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: with Kansas City, then you go to the playoff Raiders, 796 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: who now have Davante Adams and Chandler Jones, and then 797 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: you have the Super Bowl champion Rams at home. Those 798 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 1: are your first three games. And remember the recent historic 799 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: stat the teams that start oh and two make the 800 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: playoffs less than ten percent of the time. Can you 801 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: feel that body? Huh? Now? Right now? As as for 802 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 1: prime time, the Cardinals have four four games in prime 803 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: time and you know three of them are at home. 804 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: The fourth one is technically a home game. It's in 805 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: Mexico City against the forty nine ers. Cliff Kingsbury asked 806 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: about the prime time slate, It's awesome. I mean, you 807 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: can't ask for to me a better set up when 808 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: you look at some of those games. First one, get 809 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: a team like the Chiefs to see where you're at, 810 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: play Bill Bellijack on Monday night, play Tom Radio. And Christmas. 811 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there's some some big time games to go 812 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: to Mexico City, play Arrival. I mean it's gonna be 813 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And AFC West, you know, lining 814 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: up with them this year with getting wrestle is a challenge, 815 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: but anytime you look at a NFL schedule, it's it's 816 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: not like you can go down and take up a 817 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: bunch of wins. You know, they're all tough and everybody's 818 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: facing kind of the same deal. See. And the good 819 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: news to me, Wolf is those are all home games 820 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: except Mexico City, and so you don't have the dreaded 821 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: You play at night and then you get home in 822 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: the middle of the night, and then it checks up 823 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: the next week's schedule those games, especially that Thursday night 824 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: game at home. That's something JJ Watts cited. Yeah. No, 825 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: I think it's really really cool the way that it 826 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: sets up for the Arizona Cardinals. Now again, you know, 827 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: and I don't care how many nationally televised games they play. 828 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: I really don't. It doesn't impact us, I don't think 829 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form. But I love the 830 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: fact that Week seven they have that mini bye against 831 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: New Orleans on Thursday night and they're doing it at home. 832 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: That's a big deal to have that mini bye after 833 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: the first third of the season, roughly third of the season, 834 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: and then two thirds of this season through at least 835 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: you get the bye week at week thirteen. That to me, 836 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: Paulie that's another good break right there. Listen, if the 837 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals are good, you're gonna love the fact they have 838 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 1: the bye that late in the season. If they're good, 839 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: and that's the hope, they're gonna be good because hopefully 840 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: that'll give them a little boost getting ready to make 841 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: that playoff run. By the way, the Saints at home 842 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, that's the first primetime game the game 843 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: you said it there. How are the Saints signing anybody? 844 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: Didn't We start this off season with the Saints being 845 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: seventy million plus over the cap, and all of a 846 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: sudden they're signing Tyron Matthew to big money, Jarvis Landry 847 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: to big money. I just you know, Sean Payton, I 848 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: thought left because they were in cap hell, and all 849 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Saints are making it happen. So 850 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the NFL should investigate, but somebody's cooking 851 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 1: the books down there, the big easy. Yeah. Not only that, Paul, 852 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean they haven't made all their cuts yet either, 853 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: So hold on to that because I'm sure there's going 854 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: to be some type of justification coming to that roster. 855 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: By the way, Cardinals signal game tickets available now, Easy 856 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com slash tickets to secure your seats today, 857 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,760 Speaker 1: and the preseason slate was finalized today. Go toasy Cardinals 858 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: dot com and you can see the dates and times. 859 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 1: I'll just sum it up for you. You have Game 860 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: one in Game three on the road at Cincinnati at Tennessee. 861 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: Both those are gonna be on twelve News. In other words, 862 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley will go viral. Okay, the rest of the 863 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: nation will be like, who's the guy with all the 864 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: energy and the wrestling voice. So that's what will happen there. 865 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: And then the Baltimore home game, the middle preseason game 866 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: is actually gonna be on Fox nationally televised. How about that? Wow? 867 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: So all right for Jim Almandro and Cody Fincher for 868 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: Lcidas Smith our Special and Ron Wolfley Paul LVC. 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