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Speaker 1: Welcome into this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 1: the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I am your host, John

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Speaker 1: Harris Football and a sidline reporter for your Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: and we have got a jam packed show for this

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Speaker 1: this player has some similarities to Joe Smith or said

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Speaker 1: you know said player. It doesn't necessarily mean they're going

429
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Speaker 1: to be the same player, but you see some of

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Speaker 1: the qualities and some of the attributes that are applicable

431
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Speaker 1: to that player. So you have to be careful of

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Speaker 1: saying this guy's just like so and so. He might be,

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Speaker 1: but then it's unfair to make comparisons to a player

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Speaker 1: maybe that has ten years of experience versus a player

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Speaker 1: at it from a physical trade characteristic standpoint, whether it's

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Speaker 1: their playing strength, whether it's their size, whether it's there

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Speaker 1: you know, their ball skills, whether it's their body balance,

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Speaker 1: whether it's ability to break tackles and be good with

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Speaker 1: the ball. So that's where you're using kind of your

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Speaker 1: library of players as a reference point to be able

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Speaker 1: to make some comparison. Just while we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: draft a little bit. We talked a little bit about this,

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Speaker 1: you know, last week and might get asked about it,

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Speaker 1: but every Monday, we have people in our department that

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Speaker 1: will send me a file of players. Okay, here are

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Speaker 1: the school as I was at last week, here are

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Speaker 1: the players. So they have the player, a little right

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Speaker 1: up of the players strong points, weak points, bottom line

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Speaker 1: or vision, and a comparison and a grade. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: then that's kind of all right, that's good information. Then

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Speaker 1: I'll put that into my kind of centralized database. And

453
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Speaker 1: as I'm watching the player, Okay, did what did you know?

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Speaker 1: What Lip think? Okay, what did Zeke think? What did

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Speaker 1: John think? Okay, here's what I see. So then when

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Speaker 1: you have those discussions in January, February, March. Whenever you're

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Speaker 1: basing it off of, you know, at least you have

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Speaker 1: some knowledge understanding of the player. Now do you share

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Speaker 1: your notes with them after the weekend. I just want

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Speaker 1: to know, because reportedly, allegedly you do go to some

461
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Speaker 1: of these games. We'll have discussions. Okay, so you know,

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Speaker 1: it might be a discussion you know what I see,

463
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Speaker 1: what you saw, or you know what I see maybe

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Speaker 1: something a little bit different. Let's have a little bit

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Speaker 1: I would say when we have our meetings, those will

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Speaker 1: because that's why you've invested the time and the resources.

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Speaker 1: And they have a voice, and we want them to

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Speaker 1: an organization, that's someone we're going to go forward, all right,

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Speaker 1: I have a question related to that sort of college

478
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Speaker 1: atmospheres that you find really excellent when you're in some

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Speaker 1: of these buildings. You've been to a lot of them,

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Speaker 1: other than maybe John Carroll home games. Let's put that

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Speaker 1: aside for the moment. Five thousand people, Yeah, so that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good crowd though for D three that's not bad.

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Speaker 1: But tell us some of the favorites that ye just

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Speaker 1: tell us Brown University, right, yeah. I would say, going back,

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Speaker 1: forget what year was Georgia LSU. I think this was

486
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Speaker 1: a year they had Beckham, Jeremy Hill, Landry Mettenberger was

487
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. They played at Georgia like in October. Like

488
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Speaker 1: that was a pretty cool environment, you know, the environment

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Speaker 1: at A and M a couple of weeks ago when

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Speaker 1: they played Alabama. I would say Thursday night game Oregon

491
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Speaker 1: when I was a young young kid. I forget exactly

492
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Speaker 1: who they played, but Outson Stadium is I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: louder than you think it is. You know, it's not

494
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Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifteen thousand people, but the way

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Speaker 1: that the noise reverberates off them, I mean it was

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Speaker 1: just a really cool atmosphere. So I would say, you know, look,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of good atmospheres in college football. I

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Speaker 1: mean those are a couple just going back through the years,

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Speaker 1: I would say that that stand out to some degree. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I have another story. You guys are probably liked this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: come on, come on Thursday night Stanford, Oregon. I think

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Speaker 1: this was a year Mariota came out, So they played

503
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Speaker 1: Thursday night. I was trying to get back to Boston

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Speaker 1: that night. There was like a red Eye eleven o'clock

505
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Speaker 1: flight or something like that. So when you park at Stanford,

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Speaker 1: left a game, I knew how to catch a flight.

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Speaker 1: I think I was trying to San Francisco and I

510
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Speaker 1: or like I'm gonna miss my flight. So I made

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Speaker 1: a decision, all right, I'm gonna try to sneak through.

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Speaker 1: I did pretty significant amount of damage to the car,

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Speaker 1: sure that you get home. So did you leave a note? No,

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Speaker 1: you're just hearing this like, oh, make it a pretty

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Speaker 1: bad feeling. Oh but those are I would say, the

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Speaker 1: trials and tribulations of scouting. Absolutely got to get that right.

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Speaker 1: At that point, that bill comes in and you're like, uh, coach,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I had to make my flight. I

528
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529
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Speaker 1: and we can't even draft Mariota. So there's that. Okay, Nick,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us. Good luck, Thanks guys,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Man, what a dilemma. What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna go through? I mean, you made the

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Speaker 1: Desmond King all right, sorry, I just kind of gotten

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Speaker 1: a little pattern there. But how about a little time

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Speaker 1: with Desmond King? Good old two five And this number

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Speaker 1: choice came up, not so much the number that he

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Speaker 1: chose to become a Texan, but I asked him during

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Speaker 1: this interview that Mark and I did with him, why

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Speaker 1: number fourteen at Iowa. I was a little surprised by

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Speaker 1: his answer, only because to know this information you have

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Speaker 1: to be a big fan of college football, a big,

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Speaker 1: huge fan, and I've always gotten that vibe from Desmond King.

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Speaker 1: We had a great time talking to Desmond King. Here

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Speaker 1: is Mark John Desmond Let's roll joining us right now

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Speaker 1: in Texans Radio. It's de Man, Kang and des Bend.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see a back returning kicks yesterday, returning ponts.

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Speaker 1: How did it feel to be back in that dimension

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Speaker 1: of the game. Um, feel good just to be back there,

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Speaker 1: getting my feet wet a little bit, get the bottom

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Speaker 1: of my hands and you know, do what I do best, Desmond.

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Speaker 1: When it's a tough stretch, what's the biggest key. Let's

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Speaker 1: just talk defense obviously, but from a team perspective too,

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Speaker 1: what's the biggest key when the stretch gets tough like

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Speaker 1: this for for getting out of it? Trying to think

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Speaker 1: of times where you've spent I mean, I know you

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Speaker 1: had a lot of success to Iowa, and you know

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Speaker 1: there were I think with the charges maybe some some bumps,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if this is maybe the toughest one.

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Speaker 1: But what's kind of the key to kind of get

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Speaker 1: out of it? Um, really really is just not to

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Speaker 1: get distracted, you know, not let the outside noise kind

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Speaker 1: of take you out of your place, take you out

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Speaker 1: of your your motion, um, and just knowing what our

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Speaker 1: goal is as a team and as just moving forward,

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Speaker 1: you know, and any chance we can get, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of put that behind us and learn from it

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Speaker 1: and move on and correct it, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the only option we have right now is to

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Speaker 1: correct our mistakes and move on and try to make

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Speaker 1: the next week better. So, Um, as we approached this week,

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Speaker 1: you know, We're just gonna watch this film kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, see what we did wrong, see what we

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Speaker 1: can do better, use that going to the next week,

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Speaker 1: you know, ready to go against the Cardinals. It was

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Speaker 1: clear you were getting some stops early defense, scored with

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Speaker 1: the safety, getting some pressure on Murray and hold up

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Speaker 1: on the back end. What was it like to get

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Speaker 1: off to a good start like that were what were

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Speaker 1: some of the things you were doing. Um, I just

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Speaker 1: feel like, you know that first quarter, you know, we

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Speaker 1: had we had a little some energy, We had some

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Speaker 1: some energy going you know that first quarter, um, and

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Speaker 1: just you know, trying to create a spark, you know

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Speaker 1: for our team. And uh, I think that's what our

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Speaker 1: goal was, you know going into that game, is creating

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Speaker 1: spark you know for the offense, get get off on

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Speaker 1: a good start, and just uh try to try to

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Speaker 1: make the game interesting, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 1: we knew we was coming in, you know to a

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Speaker 1: great team, an undefeated team, a team that's you know,

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Speaker 1: perfectly sound. You know, guys, that's really to make a mistake.

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Speaker 1: So we try to you know, find out that weakness

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Speaker 1: in them and try to take that and use it.

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Speaker 1: You've played inside, you've played outside. I've had this conversation

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Speaker 1: with people many times before. They talking about offensive line, well,

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Speaker 1: guard tackles the same thing. It's like three feet difference

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Speaker 1: inside outside corner. There's a massive difference. Maybe what is

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Speaker 1: the difference to playing inside and outside? Is it as

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Speaker 1: big a difference as we think it is? That playing

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Speaker 1: in the slot is much different playing on the outside.

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Speaker 1: Playing on the side, it's a lot more physical they're

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Speaker 1: playing outside because your your responsibility is a run absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and you got to take on like you said, you

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Speaker 1: gotta take onlineman, you got run gaps, you know, stuff

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Speaker 1: like that, and it's a lot of stuff that you

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Speaker 1: need to know being an inside, you know, defender. So

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Speaker 1: that's I think that's probably the biggest difference between playing

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Speaker 1: inside and outside. All Right, So what's more satisfying? Excellent

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Speaker 1: punt return or a great pick and a good return.

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Speaker 1: No touchdown either way, but you get a great punt

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Speaker 1: return or a pick and a return. I mean they're

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Speaker 1: both helping the team. They're both putting the offense in

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Speaker 1: the right position, you know. So I mean either one,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty much the same thing. You know, you get

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Speaker 1: a great return, you're putting the offense a good field position,

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Speaker 1: you get an interception, you create a spark. You're putting

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Speaker 1: the offense and a great position. So I mean, I

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Speaker 1: can't really choose which one because they both do the same.

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Speaker 1: When you're returning a punt, is it just about instinct

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Speaker 1: at that point? Sometimes because you ran for a lot

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Speaker 1: of yards as a running back in high school, right

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Speaker 1: like twenty three hundred yards or something as a senior,

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Speaker 1: So when you're returning a punt, is it just okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm back to just playing football. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: get free. I know you want to set up around

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Speaker 1: your blocks, but sometimes it's just pure instinct. How does

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Speaker 1: that go? Um? When when when I'm back there, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, first off, you know, you gotta secure the ball,

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Speaker 1: you gotta catch the ball, and then from there you

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Speaker 1: just kind of see see you scan the field and

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Speaker 1: see where you can go. So when I first catch

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Speaker 1: the ball, I always scan to see like who's coming first,

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Speaker 1: who can I make miss, you know, trying to pick

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Speaker 1: out a weakness of the the cover's team and that,

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Speaker 1: and then I go from there. A lot of times

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Speaker 1: it's like a setup return. So you always want to

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Speaker 1: do a responsibility and then from there you can see

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Speaker 1: what you can get. When did you know you could

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Speaker 1: do that? Because that takes that takes a little I've

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Speaker 1: been doing in my whole life. When did you feel like,

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Speaker 1: I mean totally comfortable at any point in returning high school,

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Speaker 1: college pro did you ever feel like, Okay, man, I

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Speaker 1: don't know about this. Did you always feel that confident

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Speaker 1: that you're just give me the ball, I'm gonna do something.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably saying college. I think that's when I felt

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Speaker 1: most confident and like, all right, I can actually do this.

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Speaker 1: You know this is something that I could probably take

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Speaker 1: to the next level. When do you scan the field?

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Speaker 1: Like balls up in the air? Oh yeah, do you

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Speaker 1: ever look Do you ever look down the scanner? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Your eyes always yea. Once the balls kick, I get

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Speaker 1: to see like where I try to find out where

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Speaker 1: the flight of the ball is going. And I started

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Speaker 1: going in that direction. And then once I'm move and

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Speaker 1: I look to see, you know, what's coming towards me,

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Speaker 1: Like who's coming down first, who's fastest coming down field?

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Speaker 1: Stuff like that. You see fearless. Now I know you're

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Speaker 1: from the D so I know you're fearless, so I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't say, see you are fearless. Has there ever been

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Speaker 1: a return where you're you just got smoked, You just

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Speaker 1: didn't see a guy and you got smoked and you're like, WHOA, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think I ever got hit

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Speaker 1: like with with somebody like right in my face. Now, well,

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Speaker 1: they gotta be careful too, right because they're they're flying, don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they don't know if I'm a fair catching or no.

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Speaker 1: So some people come flying there, some people are really close.

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be a tough decision. I got hit so

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Speaker 1: hard one time I went I went blind one eye

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Speaker 1: for about ten minutes, and that was the half field

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Speaker 1: safety and it was the inside. I couldn't see out

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Speaker 1: of my right eye because I didn't see you guys

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Speaker 1: coming down. And they just they explain, it doesn't explain.

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Speaker 1: It does explain a lot in practice, when you're going

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Speaker 1: up against scout team, right, just trying to get good

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Speaker 1: on defense here, getting ready for the game, do you

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Speaker 1: sometimes advise them give me this look. I want to

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Speaker 1: see a little bit more of that. I want to

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Speaker 1: cover this kind of pattern because this is something I

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Speaker 1: think they're to be doing. How do you approach that? Yeah, Um,

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Speaker 1: we got some guys that's on a scout team that

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Speaker 1: give us a really great look, even like the receivers,

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Speaker 1: Like we know what kind of matchups we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: against in the receiving corps and like East team, So

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Speaker 1: we kind of tell them, like you know, if you

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Speaker 1: if you know like what this kind of receiver does,

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Speaker 1: Like can you like show me what like a release

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Speaker 1: or like how you get out of his routes and

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Speaker 1: how you catch the ball, Like do he keep the

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Speaker 1: ball out or do he tuck it once he catch it?

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Speaker 1: Like stuff like that. We kind of like go over

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Speaker 1: stuff like that with them and they kind of pick

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Speaker 1: it up sometimes too. You've been in the AFC for

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Speaker 1: I think throughout your entire career. Yeah, now you're seeing

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00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: an NFC team and SITFAC team is pretty good. It's

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford and then the receivers, it's Cooper Cup, it's

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Speaker 1: Robert Woods, the Shan Jackson. I mean guys that you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people have on fantasy teams. I

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Speaker 1: know you probably haven't gone too much into film yet

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Speaker 1: of the rams, but just hearing those names, what's kind

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Speaker 1: of the key and how different is it facing that

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Speaker 1: group than it maybe is facing Hop because it felt

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Speaker 1: like you were like Hop was on your side a

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Speaker 1: lot throughout the game. What's difference in facing those groups

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Speaker 1: of receivers? And it got like hopping some of the

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Speaker 1: receivers you saw yesterday, knowing that you know these guys

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Speaker 1: that we gotta come in, They're gonna move them around.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see Robert Woods in the backfield. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: see Cup doing jet motions, Wos doing jetmotions, Deshne doing

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Speaker 1: deep routes. Like, we know that this is a high

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Speaker 1: motor offense and we just got to be prepared for

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Speaker 1: what was coming in here. Desmond King joining us. A

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Speaker 1: couple more for you. I know you grew up in

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Speaker 1: the Detroit area. Did you grow up as a Lions fan? Yes?

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Speaker 1: I did? All right? So what happens to your fandom

838
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Speaker 1: when you become a player in the league because you're

839
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, in all likelihood you're not gonna end up

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Speaker 1: playing for your hometown team. So do you still not

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00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: necessarily pull for them, but care if they weren't lose

842
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: because you have probably have friends or family members who

843
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: are still rooting for them. No, No, it was that's

844
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Speaker 1: long gone back when I was a little So Megatron,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson's gone, Barry sound is gone. I'm good. Isn't

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Speaker 1: nothing else for me to cheer for over there? Growing up?

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Speaker 1: Growing up? Was it like Megatron's your dude? Like yeah,

848
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: so well, Barry Sanders was mine and like that's was

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Speaker 1: my early number. I wore twenty all of my career.

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Speaker 1: So I went to college, Um, I played running back,

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Speaker 1: tough decision for you? Yeah, it was because I was,

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Speaker 1: that's why I said, And once I got to college,

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Speaker 1: returner became an option, so I made that, you know, further,

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Speaker 1: so you were twenty for Barry Sanders. Why did you

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Speaker 1: wear fourteen? Uh? Um? So once I first got there, Um,

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Speaker 1: I actually had twenty. I was a freshman and the

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868
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Speaker 1: so that's why I never got twenty. So, uh, my

869
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Speaker 1: Coming from Detroit and Tyranne was number fourteen. I think

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Speaker 1: like his first year, his freshman year at Tyron were fourteen.

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Speaker 1: That's why my Instagram name is black Badger because he

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Speaker 1: was the honey Badger. Wow. Yeah, so that was so

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Speaker 1: you were That's what you were a little bit after

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Speaker 1: because he went to seven and so I was. I

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Speaker 1: was like, all right, that's interesting. Kind of yeah, I

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Speaker 1: very much. So we've seen a lot of guys. I've

881
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Speaker 1: What's a common thread amongst the guys that come from Detroit. Um,

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Speaker 1: big for us and we take pride in that. So

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Speaker 1: just stay in contact. You know, we got a lot

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Speaker 1: of like you said, it's a lot of guys that

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Speaker 1: guys there. And Tab was one of your guys. Man,

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Speaker 1: And and like there's a couple more guys that we

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Speaker 1: with a little reef. That is wild. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: good luck this week. Thank you when he started talking

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Speaker 1: that's right. Freshman year, he were number fourteen. A lot

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Speaker 1: And I remember it. As soon as Desmond started saying that,

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Speaker 1: Built differently but similar football IQs that are just off

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Speaker 1: the voice of the La Rams and jab thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for being with us. First of all, before we

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Speaker 1: I mean, how is the stadium? What is it like

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Speaker 1: And how's the construction going on around it? When will

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Speaker 1: Voice of the La Rams with us. Okay, Matthew Stafford,

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Speaker 1: We all know he's got the arm talent. Is it

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Speaker 1: the case that he just needed a change of scenery,

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01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: change of coaching staff, and a talent overhaul to really

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Speaker 1: show what he could do? Yeah, more often than not.

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Speaker 1: Mark The answer to these types of questions, and they've,

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Speaker 1: like you said, come in all the different shapes and

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Speaker 1: sizes over the last year or so is Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: all of the above. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: the focus is rightly because the Rams made a power

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Speaker 1: play for him what Stafford can do for Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: But I think equally important is what the Rams have

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Speaker 1: done for Matthew Stafford. He's a unique person in that

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Speaker 1: I think he can elevate the other ten around him,

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Speaker 1: And ultimately that's what Jared Goff was unable to do

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Speaker 1: during his handful of years as the rams QB one.

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Speaker 1: When everything around it in the ecosystem was stable and

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Speaker 1: above average, Jared Goff was terrific. But when things got

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: a little bit muddy, was he able to kind of

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01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: make the offensive line look better than some of their parts?

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily? Was he able to threaten defenses and create

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01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: some lighter boxes for his running backs? Not necessarily. Stafford

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Speaker 1: can do all of those things, and there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot that he has seeing through his now thirteen years

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Speaker 1: of NFL experience, and I think he's a great partner

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Speaker 1: for Sean McVay and where he wants to go with

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Speaker 1: this offense. And what really drove it home for me

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Speaker 1: Mark was seeing Aaron Rodgers and the Packers in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs last year with a close friend of Sean McVay,

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01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, thriving there in Green Bay, and I think

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01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: he saw up close and personal what his offensive system,

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01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: which is derived from Gruden, Shanahan, etc. Is supposed to

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Speaker 1: look like when you have a truly elite quarterback, and

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01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: now for the first time he's got a hand picked

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Speaker 1: elite quarterback, and the proof has been in the pudding.

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams can get to where they want

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01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: to go offensively now special teams in defense, they're not

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01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: quite there yet, and we'll see whether or not that

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01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: proves to be their Achilles heal. All Right, what about

1304
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: the running game? I know Henderson has not played in

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01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: all of them. Sony Michelle, the former Patriot stafford, is

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01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: taking it on the ground a few times, but just

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01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: for minimal yard. It's tell me about what's going on

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01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: on the ground with the Rams. Yeah, so they've been

1309
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: a fish at times per usual, and they've been at

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01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: their best playing with the lead in the fourth quarter

1311
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: when they're trying to assault away a game. That's really

1312
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: when they've been able to come downhill and pick up

1313
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: first downs to bleed clock. One thing to keep an

1314
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: eye on for this week's game, mark is they lost

1315
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: Johnny Munt, who was their second tight end and was

1316
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: essentially a movable fullback tight piece for their running game,

1317
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: to a season ending knee injury against the Giants in

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01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: Week six, and their response last week against the Lions

1319
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: was to play almost exclusively eleven personnel with Higbee as

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Speaker 1: their lone tight end, and I think that compromised their

1321
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: running game to a great extent. Now, the Lions did

1322
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 1: some nice things up front, and if they have a

1323
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 1: strength on that roster, maybe it is their defensive front.

1324
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: So that definitely played a part in it. But as

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01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: they arrive in Houston, I think there are legitimate questions

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01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: about how and to what extent the Rams are going

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Speaker 1: to be able to be the efficient running game that

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01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: they've always been under Sean McVeagh. Not a matter of

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: Darrell Henderson the back. He's got all the tools, but

1330
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 1: can they get run removal of Andrew Whitworth, their left

1331
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: tackle is injured. Can they play out of eleven personnel

1332
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: and get four or five yards per carry? That remains

1333
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: to be seen, all right. So Cooper Cup leads the

1334
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: league in receptions and our general manager, Nick as Sario,

1335
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: we have him on every week and he was raving

1336
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: about Cup. Now, I know he's number one in the

1337
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: league right now, does he get the due that he deserves?

1338
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: Nick was really praising him, and I thought that you

1339
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: know clearly when you see him in the highlights, if

1340
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: you watch the Rams enough You're gonna notice him, there's

1341
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: no question, but his name rarely gets brought up when

1342
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: you talk about the top three, four or five receivers

1343
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: in the league consistently. How do you see it, JB.

1344
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: I hope it stays that way, to be honest, I mean,

1345
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: it is kind of nuts. And part of it is

1346
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: the Rams have done such a good job through the

1347
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: years as spreading targets out. And they've got another wonderful

1348
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: player in Robert Woods who has had some of his

1349
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: best moments against the Houston Texans for the Call of

1350
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: Fam a few years back. But Cooper Cup has taken

1351
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: his game to the next level. I think all the

1352
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: way back to OTA's I was telling our fan base

1353
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: and those who follow fantasy football like Tree, Cooper Cup

1354
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: like a blue chip stock, like an apple, just keep

1355
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: buying more and more of it, because Stafford's only going

1356
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: to be great things for his statistics in his career.

1357
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: But what I didn't fully appreciate is how much of

1358
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: a vertical threat he can be With someone like Stafford

1359
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: who's willing to push the ball down the field no

1360
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: matter the down and distance. Cooper Cups supply lines from

1361
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: the slot in the underneath game have definitely re emerged

1362
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: with the top shelf threat like de Sean Jackson and

1363
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: Van Jefferson have proven to be. But he's also running

1364
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: these deep corners and these deep overs, and he's basically

1365
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: getting twenty twenty five yard handoffs from Matthew Stafford with

1366
01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: these three level vertical stretch plays that they do so well.

1367
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: And his depth of target is at a career high,

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01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: and I didn't see that coming necessarily. So he's a problem.

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01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: And he's playing like a number one receiver whether or

1370
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: not he's put in that category all right defensively, And

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Speaker 1: I'll have a question about some of the unsung players

1372
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: on the RAMS roster in a moment here, But we

1373
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: got to talk about Aaron Donald and John Harris, who

1374
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: does our sideline stuff and he's our analyst on Texans

1375
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: Radio during the week. He said that when he met

1376
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald at the Senior Bowl, he was sort of

1377
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: taken aback that he wasn't the you know, he wasn't

1378
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: six seven, three hundred pounds. He is the kind of guy.

1379
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: It's not like he's not an impressive looking athlete, but

1380
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: you get so much more than you see in the

1381
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: physical package. And I think fans would be surprised that

1382
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: he's actually not even the leading sack man on this

1383
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: RAMS defense. But he's off to a good start. Of course,

1384
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: he gets a lot of attention paid to him. Tell

1385
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: us something about him in twenty twenty one. You know,

1386
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: it's interesting. After last week's game, I happened to be

1387
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: down on field level doing some postgame responsibilities. I got

1388
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: back in the elevator and Aaron Donald and a member

1389
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: of our security team was also on board, going up

1390
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: to their car to drive home, and the lovely lady

1391
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: who was orchestrating it all running that elevator, looked over

1392
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: at Aaron and started asking him some questions or are

1393
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: you a player? Are you active? Did you play today?

1394
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: And I, you know, we're all wearing masks in the elevator,

1395
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: and I can't, I can't hold back my smile, and

1396
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: I kind of catch Aaron's eye and give him a

1397
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: wink and a chuckle, because you know, obviously he's the

1398
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: greatest defensive player we think walking the planet. And this

1399
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: woman was understandably oblivious to it all, and God bless her,

1400
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 1: but he's also, you know, wearing more fancy clothing and jewelry.

1401
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's probably more valuable than than our annual

1402
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: salaries put together, Mark, But he just kind of blends

1403
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 1: right in. And to your point about his stature, you

1404
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily look at him and think, oh my gosh,

1405
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: he's a three time NFL Defensive Player of the Year,

1406
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: but that's exactly who he is. And to your point

1407
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: about not being the statistical sack leader. For years and

1408
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: years now, other Rams have benefited from the Aaron Donald effect.

1409
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: And whether that's Dante Fowler or many others, including Leonard

1410
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: Floyd who had a career year and continues on with

1411
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: this roster, Sebastian Joseph Day. Those in the pass rush

1412
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 1: and the defensive front around him, their job has made

1413
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: so much easier by the double and triple teams that

1414
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: he commands. So what he does rushing the passer in

1415
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: the running game, I think is unparalleled. And when it

1416
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,959
Speaker 1: was crunch time last week against the Lions, he destroys

1417
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: their left guard, puts a hit on Jared Goff that

1418
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: leads to Jalen Ramsey game clinching interception. There's few players

1419
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: I think you would want with a hand in the

1420
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: dirt with a game on the line than Aaron Donald JB.

1421
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: Long voice of the Rams with us. So what about

1422
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,799
Speaker 1: players that aren't getting there due or maybe an aspect

1423
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: of the team that does not get the notary it

1424
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: deserves right down through this six and one star JB. Well, unfortunately,

1425
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: the kicking game right now is notoriously bad. So that's

1426
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on. Apart, you know, apart

1427
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: from the kickers themselves as specialist Matt Gay and Johnny Hecker,

1428
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: who have been fine. It's been a real source spot

1429
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: that for the second year in a row, the Rams

1430
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: are losing possessions and points on special teams. So if

1431
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: there's an area that Texans might be able to exploit

1432
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: on Sunday, it's that unsung heroes. I think the offensive

1433
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: line has been terrific. The same five have made each start,

1434
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 1: although that's in question this week as Andrew Whitworth is

1435
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 1: battling through a bit of a knee injury suffered against

1436
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: the Lions. You know what'll be interesting to watch two

1437
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: is the middle linebacker position because surprisingly, I would say shockingly,

1438
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 1: Kenny Young, who has been there every down off ball linebacker,

1439
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: was traded to the Denver Broncos. Just this week for

1440
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: a you know, an exchange of day three, twenty twenty

1441
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: four picks, essentially a salary dump, if you will. It

1442
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: was very much a financial consideration move. And so that

1443
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: leads you know, drafted rookie Ernest Jones to step into

1444
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: the middle of what the Rams hope will be a

1445
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: Super Bowl defense. That's a big ask and this will

1446
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 1: be his first serious opportunity as a starter. So those

1447
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: are a couple of things that I would have my

1448
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: eye on in terms of units, personnel groups. And then

1449
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: an individual for Week eight in Houston. All right, So

1450
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: a couple of other quick notes here. The Texans just

1451
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: played the Cardinals. They're unbeaten. You've seen them. Rams lost

1452
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: to them, and tell me to me it looked like

1453
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 1: a pretty even game statistically, but turnovers were the difference

1454
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: for the La Rams. Is that how you saw that one?

1455
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: The lone loss on the Ram schedule. Yeah, that was

1456
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 1: an interesting cocktail of so many things. And the first

1457
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: is that the Arizona Cardinals I think have really truly

1458
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 1: been the best team in all three phases in football,

1459
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: and they're rightly unbeaten. Kyler Murray was actually at SOFI

1460
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: Stadium week seventeen last season, with a chance to put

1461
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 1: his team in the playoffs, left with an early injury,

1462
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: kind of lingered on the sideline for the better part

1463
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: of three quarters, and then once the game was out

1464
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: of reach, came back in and a lot of us

1465
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: were looking around being like, is this your franchise quarterback?

1466
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: Not to call his toughness into question, but that's the

1467
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: type of move that I think can cost a quarterback

1468
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: his locker room. And then he spends the offseason mark

1469
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: talking about maybe going back and exploring baseball, and some

1470
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: of us were just incredulous that he's going to be

1471
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: the guy to take the Cardinals back to the postseason.

1472
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 1: And were we every wrong about that? He has been

1473
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: MVP caliber JJ Watt and his addition to the defense,

1474
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: AJ Green, a veteran presence in that receiving corps. It's

1475
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: all come together. But I'll also point out that the

1476
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: Rams were coming off of opening up Sofi Stadium for

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1684
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: couldn't jackhammer them ourselves, and that I thought was the

1685
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 1: biggest issue. But I don't want to say you won

1686
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 1: defensively against their offense, but you held your own enough

1687
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: that you had some wins. You just didn't win, right,

1688
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: you help, Like, if you compare it to a boxing match,

1689
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 1: you're probably going into rounds ten, eleven, twelve, you're probably down,

1690
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: you know, uh, six to four. But you know what, man,

1691
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: if your offense comes together, you can win rounds ten

1692
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: and eleven make twelves very very interesting. But your offense

1693
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: just and then with the way things were going, I mean,

1694
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 1: it just snowballed. I mean then on a fourth down,

1695
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, passes a little bit out in front of

1696
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. Look, he'll tell you it's a pass you

1697
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: should catch, but he can't hang on. Nico Collins on

1698
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: a bootleg is open and Davis puts in the right spot.

1699
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 1: Nico can't hang on. Uh you know, blocks were blocks

1700
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 1: were missed all place, which I don't know what category

1701
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: you put that into, but it was just kind of

1702
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:10,440
Speaker 1: a snowball of badness that ended up being the downfall.

1703
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 1: But if the offense could could generate some things, the

1704
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,679
Speaker 1: defensive front played extremely, extremely well. We'll get to John

1705
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 1: in just a second, but you know, as far as

1706
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: des goes, it's interesting talking to him. He has just

1707
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 1: there are always those guys, you know. I think Amandola

1708
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 1: is one of those guys. I think Audrey Roberts early

1709
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: in his career was one of those guys. You just

1710
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: have a sixth sense. They're not the fastest guys in

1711
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 1: the world, but they just have this sixth sense of footballness.

1712
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 1: They they can do things like Desmond can look down

1713
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: and see the coverage, is the balls in the air

1714
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 1: gas guys back up and find the ball and catch

1715
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 1: it clean and nowhere to go after that. People can't

1716
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 1: do that, but he can. He's just got a lot

1717
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: of football instinct and his football acques off the charts.

1718
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: I love having Desmond King here. I've told you this

1719
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: Drew before. I was a big fan of his and Iowa,

1720
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: huge huge fan of his and Iowa, And when asked

1721
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: what position he played, I said, he plays he plays

1722
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: defense and special teams because you could play him in

1723
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: a lot of different spots. And I think that's really

1724
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 1: kind of proving true. Right now, he's playing perimeter corner

1725
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: and that's probably not his best fit, but the way

1726
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 1: the Texas play their defense, it's probably not the worst fit.

1727
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: It's funny to go back to the returning though. I've

1728
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 1: always been fascinated by punt returners and their approach to

1729
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: what they do. You know, his explanation was different than

1730
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: say Wes Welkers, who I heard back with. You know

1731
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 1: Wes Welker when he was at Texas Tech. You know

1732
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,839
Speaker 1: I was. I was in Lubbock covering the Red Raiders

1733
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: after he had left. He was gone, I think a

1734
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 1: year or two before I got there. But you know,

1735
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: Amadola was there when I was there, And yeah, I

1736
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,759
Speaker 1: remember they had said Wes Welker when he returned punts,

1737
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 1: and nobody had more punt returns for touchdowns and NCUBA

1738
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: history than he did. And I think he still might

1739
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: hold the record if I think you're right if it's

1740
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 1: been broken. It was broken the last year too. But anyways,

1741
01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: his approach was make the first guy and if something

1742
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: with like hip strength or or or having quick hips

1743
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: or whatever. But it was just like, as long as

1744
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 1: you can make that first guy miss, you're gonna get

1745
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: some yardage, and you know, just keep keep plowing forward.

1746
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: So it's it's always fun here. And how these different

1747
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: guys approach what I think is just a harrow wing task.

1748
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean, having having a few few people screaming at

1749
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: you and you're not always looking at him. I just

1750
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 1: think that's that's frightening. But it's scary as all get

1751
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: out to be back there. I mean I did it.

1752
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: I did it for a game my junior year, last

1753
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 1: game of my junior year, and we really just wrought options.

1754
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: But they high school college, high school college college. We're

1755
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: playing Columbia in uh in New York, and so well,

1756
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: nobody knows that Columbia Special Teams unit in New York

1757
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: in the early nineties. We all we've they've seen, they've

1758
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: sung songs about those guys they had. They had a

1759
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 1: guy by the name of Worth. No get this, in

1760
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: this game, he's from. His name is Dez Worthman. He's

1761
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 1: from Chicago, South Side Chicago. I mean, you talked about

1762
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,560
Speaker 1: a tough SOB in that game against US, He's a

1763
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 1: starting with a linebacker. He has sixteen tackles. He gave

1764
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 1: me a concussion on the first punt return. I mean,

1765
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,439
Speaker 1: hit me like I've never been hit in my life.

1766
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't even remember the hit. He

1767
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 1: also ran thirty times for one hundred and sixty six

1768
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns and kicked all extra points in

1769
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 1: that game. It was like Gordy lock. It was unbelievable.

1770
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: I still to this day, I'm dumbfounded. But it was

1771
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,760
Speaker 1: Columbia Brown, and neither one of us were very good.

1772
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 1: They were two and seven and we were oh and

1773
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 1: nine going into the game. Snobody's gonna remember it, but

1774
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: I remember that. First of all. I remember the hit.

1775
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember that the headache he left me with.

1776
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,640
Speaker 1: He he hit me along with two other guys, and

1777
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: I went blinding an eye for about ten minutes. And

1778
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: so that's how hard he hit me. And then, by

1779
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: the way, he ran for one hundred and sixty yards

1780
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: on thirty carries and two touchdowns and then had sixteen

1781
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: tackles or something like that. He was it was. It

1782
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: was his last game at Columbia and he had he

1783
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 1: just told the coaches this is they'd tried it out

1784
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks prior to the running back thing,

1785
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 1: and then they said, yes, screw it, go with it

1786
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 1: and did so. He hadn't even played He hadn't even

1787
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: played running back that much. Huh No, the last couple

1788
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: of games of the year. They just threw him back

1789
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 1: there in kind of a you know, power jumbo set

1790
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 1: and there. I wonder what he's doing now. Yeah, I

1791
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: don't know, Workman or work from Chicago, Az Worthman, I

1792
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:29,719
Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see interesting. Um. Okay, so I mentioned Grenard.

1793
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: He's a building block, a young building block, and really

1794
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: an enticing one. I think. I mean, he's getting two

1795
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 1: sacks per game last two weeks. He's getting after the

1796
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 1: quarterback and that's something that we haven't seen around here

1797
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: in a while. Like, I'm very enthused about what this.

1798
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 1: I mean, he's I think he's the brightest of bright

1799
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: spots right now and this season that's not going well. Yeah, yeah,

1800
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you're absolutely right. It's funny. I we when

1801
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: we went to Green Bay and we all had dinner.

1802
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: I was sitting at table with our producer, Robert Hensley,

1803
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: and we're kind of talking about things. And Robert had

1804
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: been out to a few training camp practices, and obviously

1805
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: I'd seen every one of them to that point, and

1806
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: we got in this discussion about pass rush, and of course,

1807
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 1: when you lose somebody like JJ Watt, you're like, well,

1808
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: where is the pass rush gonna come from? Like, all right,

1809
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 1: well we'll see. And I said, Robert, I think this

1810
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 1: pass rush is gonna be better than you think. And

1811
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: I started going through the reasons why, and obviously one

1812
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 1: of them was John Grenard and that went back to

1813
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,799
Speaker 1: seeing him coming out of Florida what he did Louisville.

1814
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: I just felt like he had the right combination of size, quickness, hands, twitch,

1815
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 1: want to work, ethic, He's heck kind had everything that

1816
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: you would really want in an edge guy, and he's

1817
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 1: doing it in a lot of different ways. And you

1818
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 1: can just see the confidence growing in him, and really

1819
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: the confidence growing into three guys in the twenty twenty

1820
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 1: draft class. I mean, Drew, how many times we talked

1821
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 1: about that, like are we going to see something from

1822
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 1: this twenty twenty draft class, because you know, twenty twenty

1823
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 1: was not the year to see it, given everything they

1824
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 1: were kind of up against. But now we're starting to

1825
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: see it. In a year or two, we're seeing six

1826
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: sacks with John Grenard. I know that Ross had the

1827
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 1: COVID issue, but before that he was really coming into

1828
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 1: his own. And then the other day you could see

1829
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: that juice again. He forced a holding on a run

1830
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 1: by James Connor that he would have stuffed in the

1831
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: backfield that had he not been held. And you're really

1832
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 1: starting to see him coming to his own. And Charlie

1833
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 1: Hecker started at right tackle and albeit not perfect, but

1834
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: he's really grown. And I would say if you said, hey,

1835
01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: there are issues on the offensive line, you wouldn't get

1836
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,639
Speaker 1: to Charlie Heck's name for a while because there are

1837
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 1: issues other places than there are with big number sixty seven.

1838
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: So you're getting out of your second, third, and fourth

1839
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 1: round picks in twenty twenty a whole lot more than

1840
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 1: anybody anticipated. Throw on top of that, Nico Collins, Yeah,

1841
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 1: I know he didn't have the greatest game the other day,

1842
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 1: but you know who really did offensively? You know, from

1843
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one draft. You know, Garret Wallows doing

1844
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 1: some good things on special teams. Um, you're seeing Roy

1845
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 1: Lopez do some really nice things on the defensive line.

1846
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 1: Lopez not to interrupt, but like, because of the position

1847
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:11,799
Speaker 1: he plays, he's not gonna get a lot of notoriety

1848
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 1: because he's just you know, taking up. That's another guy

1849
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 1: who's up. He's coming, and he's absolutely a building a

1850
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 1: block I think on that defensive phone, no doubt. And

1851
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean he had at tackle for a loss the

1852
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: other day. There's there are some things. Look, he's a

1853
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 1: rookie's learning to fly, but he's getting a lot of

1854
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: playing time doing it. So it is it is OTJ

1855
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 1: on the job training for sure for him. But you're

1856
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: seeing some results from these these draft these past two

1857
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: draft classes, which gives you like, hey, okay, they weren't

1858
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 1: first rounders and some k and no second rounders, but

1859
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 1: you're getting contributions from you know, Day two guys and

1860
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,639
Speaker 1: Day three guys, and that's really what's what you need

1861
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 1: to do. And then you know, if whatever is rumored

1862
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 1: to happen with the trade and you get some first

1863
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 1: rounders coming back, then those guys hit and you're like,

1864
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 1: all right, this thing is right where we want it

1865
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 1: to be. Now again, it takes time, Yes, it certainly

1866
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: takes time, no doubt about that. We will take time

1867
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 1: next to talk with Deep City, who goes beyond enemy

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1965
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1966
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1967
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Speaker 1: There's like this rejuvenation of hope. Obviously the last season

1968
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1969
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1970
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1971
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Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere with this quarterback. And so when

1972
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Speaker 1: you see Matthew Stafford and what he's done and just

1973
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Speaker 1: the crazy connections he's made with Cooper Cup so far,

1974
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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is like fifty six receptions and nine touchdowns,

1975
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Speaker 1: like insane. It's leaving the league in a ton of categories.

1976
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Speaker 1: And it's mostly because during the pre season, when I

1977
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1978
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Speaker 1: this magic between these two like masterminds on offense, and

1979
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Speaker 1: you know Sean McVay, who's also his own savant when

1980
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1981
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1982
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1983
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1984
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1985
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1986
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1987
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Speaker 1: They were still in that old Olympic stadium, and they've

1988
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Speaker 1: they've definitely got their fans up. All right, Let's talk

1989
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Speaker 1: about Matthew Stafford because he just passed three hundred career

1990
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Speaker 1: touchdowns and three touchdowns in Sunday's game against the Lions.

1991
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Speaker 1: He's put up some of the best numbers of his

1992
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1993
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1994
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1995
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1996
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Speaker 1: You have Andrew Whitworth, Brian Allen, their center. There were

1997
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Speaker 1: a lot of questions. Actually, after the Rams lost center

1998
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Speaker 1: Austin Blythe who went to the Chiefs? Who's going to

1999
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2000
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Speaker 1: in from guard to center? Brian Allen had been with

2001
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Speaker 1: the team for a long time. They didn't really feel

2002
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2003
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2004
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2005
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2006
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2007
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Speaker 1: I hope they get a couple offensive linemen below in

2008
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Speaker 1: behold the team who felt good about who they had.

2009
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2010
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2012
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Speaker 1: And Brian Allen's done a great job doing that. They

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Speaker 1: to retire. The two of them are neck and neck,

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Speaker 1: and I think that that that cohesiveness at offensive line

2017
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Speaker 1: has been very helpful. I watched film with Sean McVay

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2019
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2020
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Speaker 1: I get so excited about Matthew Stafford. His calmness in

2021
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Speaker 1: the pocket, his ability to move when he is about

2022
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2023
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Speaker 1: If you watch things in slow motion, and he goes

2024
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Speaker 1: through all of his reads and then he goes back

2025
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Speaker 1: and makes the best decision, which is why you've seen

2026
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Speaker 1: more Tyler Higbee receptions this season. It's why you're seeing

2027
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Speaker 1: like that balance of Van Jefferson, who's pop this season.

2028
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Speaker 1: Robert Woods is certainly making a splash when he can,

2029
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Speaker 1: and you're seeing other targets besides Cooper Cotton. Obviously he's

2030
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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's favorite target, but I think you're getting a

2031
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Speaker 1: lot of different mixes. It depends on the play, but yeah,

2032
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Speaker 1: I think his ability to be just calm under center,

2033
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2034
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Speaker 1: his ability to make really smart throws and protect the

2035
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Speaker 1: football something I think we saw Jared Goff not do

2036
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Speaker 1: so well in seasons prior. All right, nineteen touchdowns only

2037
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Speaker 1: four interceptions. Stafford's obviously having a great season, but being

2038
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Speaker 1: there with Sean McVay, how much does McVeagh really used

2039
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Speaker 1: that offense to suit Stafford? One of the biggest differences

2040
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Speaker 1: that you've seen from last year to this year. Yeah,

2041
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Speaker 1: I mean, basically, Sean McVay opened up the playbook and

2042
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2043
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Speaker 1: haven't gone at that page in a while. Just I

2044
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Speaker 1: think you know, Sean McVay loves disguising. His offenses were

2045
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Speaker 1: like back when they ran for the Super Bowl was

2046
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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, he ran that eleven personnel ninety percent

2047
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Speaker 1: of the time. It was Brandon Cooks, who you guys

2048
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 1: are familiar with, and Robert Woods and Cooper Cup and

2049
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 1: they ran all of those wide receivers, but one was

2050
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Speaker 1: blocking and one was running its route and the other

2051
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Speaker 1: one was running as a running back, and he sort

2052
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Speaker 1: of disguised all those plays. Todd Gurley was on the

2053
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Speaker 1: team at the time and it was successful and then

2054
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:38,960
Speaker 1: they got figured out. So the fact that he is

2055
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:41,760
Speaker 1: able to I mean, look, he wasn't able to make

2056
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: these risky plays and take chances on Jared Goff because

2057
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 1: Jared Goff was still you know, building up himself. I mean, well,

2058
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Speaker 1: Jared Goff is not a mobile quarterback. We've seen him.

2059
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Speaker 1: I think he actually played really well against his former

2060
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Speaker 1: team just last week in Week seven when the Lions

2061
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 1: came to Sofi Stadium and played the Rams. But he's

2062
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Speaker 1: able to take chances, He's able to really go deep

2063
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: into that playbook, and that's where you're seeing a bunch

2064
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Speaker 1: of different routes being played. I mean, obviously, you know

2065
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 1: there's still this standard you know, Rams plays on offense,

2066
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Speaker 1: but when it comes to Matthew Stafford, you'll see this

2067
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 1: man will really take time to make the right decision

2068
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,800
Speaker 1: and make the right throw downfield. A lot of their

2069
01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,839
Speaker 1: throws are a lot deeper, I think than years prior

2070
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 1: with Jared Goff. All Right, you mentioned Cooper cup and

2071
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Speaker 1: he's the first wide receiver in the Super Bowl era

2072
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Speaker 1: to have over eight hundred yards receiving and nine touchdowns

2073
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 1: through the first seven games. So obviously he's quite a

2074
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 1: favorite target of Matthew Stafford, but other teams know that

2075
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 1: he's going to get the ball, and yet he still

2076
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 1: finds a way to get open. I mean, what does

2077
01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:49,000
Speaker 1: he do so well and how has he really evolved

2078
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 1: this year with Stafford's edition. He's a book nerd. He

2079
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 1: stays in that like the meeting rooms. He is like

2080
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 1: the Sean McVay Matthew Stafford, like the three of them,

2081
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 1: they all hung out. If they were back in high school,

2082
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 1: they would be standing by their lockers and being like,

2083
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 1: oh man, did you talk about math class? Like how

2084
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Speaker 1: exciting to learn new things in math class? Like That's

2085
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 1: who he is, Cooper Cup. And then you know, obviously

2086
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 1: he is supported in that wide receiver room because you

2087
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 1: usually don't. We all know this week cover football wide receivers.

2088
01:47:19,439 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 1: They want that ball, right Wait. Luckily Cooper Cup is

2089
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Speaker 1: in a room with guys like Robert Woods and Van

2090
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: Jefferson and DeShawn Jackson who are looking. Deshaun Jackson definitely

2091
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:31,400
Speaker 1: in the past would be like I want that ball,

2092
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 1: but he's in a veteran stage of his life and

2093
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 1: he's like, look, I'm trying to help out a team.

2094
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get a ring. So there's a different

2095
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 1: sort of like wide receiver core that it's perfect for

2096
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Speaker 1: a guy like Cooper Cup who's very selfless. I mean

2097
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Speaker 1: that man, you'll see him if he's not getting the ball,

2098
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 1: he's making blocks. And so I'm really excited to see

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Speaker 1: And I think, like Sean McBay has even said it

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Speaker 1: in the past, this season, just you know, I gotta

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Speaker 1: I gotta make sure Van Jefferson had the first touchdown

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Speaker 1: running backs have been interesting. Obviously, they lost Cam Acres

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Speaker 1: had a three down back. They've got Sony Michelle on

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Speaker 1: the roster. But do you think that Daryl Henderson is

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Speaker 1: We would like to see Darryl Henderson I think take

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Speaker 1: that more like leadership role. He's been dinged up too.

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Speaker 1: I mean he had a few I believe they were

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Speaker 1: I sent him a text. I was like, hey, how

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Speaker 1: His ability to like jump in even when he's dinged

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Speaker 1: up is there, and that's what you want to see. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Sony Michelle coming from the Patriots early on in the season,

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Speaker 1: they grabbed him obviously when Cam Akers went down, Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay loves to tease the press and he's like, we

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Speaker 1: may see cam Akers come back this season if they

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Speaker 1: go to the playoffs and make that run. But I

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Speaker 1: think Darrell Henderson has great hands as a running back.

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Speaker 1: He's been successful so far. It really came down to

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Speaker 1: Cam Akers who really proved himself. Last season he was

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Speaker 1: the every down back, and now that Cam Akers is out,

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Speaker 1: I think it's Darrell Henderson or bust, like, go get him, Tiger.

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Speaker 1: And I think now that he knows okay, I've got

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Speaker 1: the time to really flourish because remember Darrell Henderson was

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Speaker 1: under Todd Gurley, was under Malcolm Brown for those first

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Speaker 1: few seasons, and so now he's like, oh and I'm

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Speaker 1: ready to go. And it's not like I've got to

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Speaker 1: keep proving myself proving myself. Now it's like I just

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Speaker 1: have to play my game and go and stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: And that's been the main concern for Daryl Henderson is

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Speaker 1: that he keeps getting these little dinged up, you know,

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Speaker 1: injuries here and there. So he's got to stay healthy. Otherwise, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sony Michelle, you're the next man up. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: let's not sleep on Jake Funk. I would love to

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Speaker 1: see Adam Maryland one of the draft later draft picks

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Speaker 1: for the Rams. I'm waiting for so Fi Stadium to play.

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Speaker 1: We've got the funk when Jay Funk scores a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: But Jake Funk, I think he's just got like such

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Speaker 1: a good like he's got a chip on his shoulder.

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Speaker 1: He's gone through his own injuries, but he's another one

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Speaker 1: that maybe we see step up if we don't see

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Speaker 1: Darrell Henderson continuing to do what he's doing on offense.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about that Rams defense because they

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Speaker 1: an interceptions twenty sacks, ten interceptions. But last week they

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Speaker 1: have a four hundred and fifteen a net yards to

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Speaker 1: the Lions. So is there an Achilles heel to this

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Speaker 1: Rams defense or was that just a one time game

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Speaker 1: for them? Look, I give credit to the Lions who

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Speaker 1: a win against the Lions. Those special teams plays really

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Speaker 1: I think got the Rams off guard a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I think they need to be able to

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Speaker 1: stop the run better when needed. That's where you see

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Speaker 1: the Aaron Donald step up, and I think he put

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on Jared Goff against the Lions.

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Speaker 1: Just last week. Jalen Ramsey never questioned the kid got

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Speaker 1: an interception and took that. You know that was a

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Speaker 1: close game against the Rams and Lions. I think it

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Speaker 1: gives a lot of teams who only have a winner,

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Speaker 1: so some hope like, hey, we can beat this team.

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Speaker 1: But I also think there was a lot of familiarity

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Speaker 1: with that team in general. I mean, we look at

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Speaker 1: the Jared Goff and Matthew Stafford you know trade there,

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Speaker 1: but the Detroit Lions also have Nickell Roby Coleman, a

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Speaker 1: cornerback who used to play for the Rams. Could Daryl Hodge,

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Speaker 1: who's a ride receiver used to play for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Michael Broncker's defensive lineman used to play for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Their cornerback, rams former cornerbacks coach is now the DB's

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Speaker 1: used to be the director scouting for the Rams. So

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Speaker 1: I just think there was a whole lot of like,

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Speaker 1: we know how the Rams are gonna play, They're gonna

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Speaker 1: do a couple moves that we're familiar with and we'll

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Speaker 1: be prepared for. So I think it was more that,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting very recently they traded Kenny Young,

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Speaker 1: But there is this talk of when Sean McVay was

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Speaker 1: Ernest Jones out of South Carolina who's really expected to

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Speaker 1: step up. I thought he played really well this preseason

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Speaker 1: if you will, maybe you know they're looking to see

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Speaker 1: who can who can break coup. But I really don't

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Speaker 1: see any weak spots when it comes to the Rams defense.

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Speaker 1: I think it was more of the outlier that there

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Speaker 1: So they'll face him again. They've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: familiarity there. Serena always a pleasure catching up with you.

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