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Speaker 2: were going on today. Man I watched his documentary this morning.

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Speaker 2: It's called Private Violence.

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Speaker 4: It was on HBO and it was pretty intense watch.

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Speaker 2: It's about domestic violence and they basically follow the case

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Speaker 2: It takes place in North Carolina mostly, but her specific case,

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Speaker 2: Sick look at you know, domestic violence, and you know

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Speaker 3: So a lot of these rules are not too victim friendly.

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Speaker 2: restraining order cases in North Carolina. And there were forty five.

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Speaker 4: The person just like you know, they just go kill him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and a lot of times they go, fuck your

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Speaker 6: restraining order. And that's the part people don't understand. People

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Speaker 2: So you know, I was watching it and like this

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Speaker 4: Are you sleeping with your friends? Shit like that, where.

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Speaker 2: You're just like, this is an amazing level of just

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Speaker 6: You know, it's like you get to a point where

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Speaker 2: Then they pulled her to the side and she was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Not going to be enough, which is crazy.

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Speaker 3: That should be a federal law. You crossed that.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I was just kind of tweeting about it.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't even saying anything about men versus women or anything,

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Speaker 2: and was like, are we gonna talk about the manipulative

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Speaker 6: Or nah?

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Speaker 4: What the fuck right? So I'm like, h nah, dumb ass,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like like what?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: Why does it always got to be two sides with everybody?

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Speaker 3: Everything?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 2: I said, what are you even trying to get out here?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen this documentary? If not, shut the

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Speaker 2: fuck up? He said, Nah? Just in general, a lot

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Speaker 2: just want to strike a balance. This is what's weird

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Speaker 2: balance with what the fuck? I gotta say? Right, it's

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Speaker 2: not your timeline. You're not responsible for policing my speech.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a person that's gonna I'm not influencing the

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Speaker 4: I'm just giving my opinion. Like you give your opinion.

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Speaker 2: Now, A lot less people might be interested in your opinion,

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Speaker 2: you know, but that probably has something to do with,

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Speaker 2: you know, the lack of thought and eloquence in your

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Speaker 2: Like I'm and also.

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Speaker 4: You're just not that smart, you know what I mean? Like, so.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was like, uh, I just want to

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Speaker 2: strike a balance, and I said strike ds you whack

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Speaker 2: ass niggas. Ah, they said, intelligent responses, I'll get It'll

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Speaker 4: Good work. I see what folks like you do. So

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Speaker 4: this is kind of like that, dude, though it is

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Speaker 2: We had to stop playing this messages conspiracy theorises that

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Speaker 2: think I'm doing the people think my opinion is to

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Speaker 2: our podcast. Guess what, dumb ass, they don't know what

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Speaker 2: the fuck I think to they play it. So there's

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go listen to three hours of podcast because

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Speaker 2: Rob said something on Twitter that's pretty much not how

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Speaker 2: pander to get business, I would just pander the dumb

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Speaker 2: ass niggas like you, because a fool like that is

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Speaker 2: separated from his money so quickly and so.

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Speaker 3: Easily, it will support shit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, dudes like Steve Harvey and threating the Sheet

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Speaker 2: are gonna be way richer than me for the rest

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Speaker 2: of their lives. I will never attain the wealth that

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Speaker 2: I could easily just hop on his mic and be like,

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Speaker 2: black women ain't shit.

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Speaker 4: Don't nobody?

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Speaker 2: Uh why y'all think everything is racist?

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Speaker 4: Pull your pants up.

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Speaker 2: We could do that shit every fucking day and niggas

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Speaker 3: That's the truth.

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Speaker 2: We would not be doing this shit in the apartment,

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Speaker 2: we wouldn't. We probably be on the fucking radio, Yes,

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Speaker 2: some shit like that. But somehow, just giving my motherfucking

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Speaker 2: opinion always gotta come down. Why are you doing this

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Speaker 2: for clicks? I didn't get any clicks on our website

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Speaker 2: for this shit, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, doesn't even get that many hits.

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Speaker 2: We will listen to the podcast on iTunes and Stature

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Speaker 2: and it never goes up because of something I tweeted. Ever,

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Speaker 2: doesn't even go up. When we can put it in

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Speaker 2: the episode title. It could be stop street harassment, it won't.

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Speaker 2: Their listens won't go up because of that. We just

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Speaker 2: A lot of people have to same opinion. It ain't

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Speaker 4: Or making money or whatever the fuck.

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Speaker 2: If it was so fucking profitable, every rap song would

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Speaker 2: you fucking idiot. You know, it's just such a And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm at this point where I'm tired of

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Speaker 2: I don't have time. You just take these insults. Take

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Speaker 2: the insults because I'm no longer Yeah, I'm no longer

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Speaker 4: And then because you wouldn't have said the first statement

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Speaker 2: You got Google, you got wiki, you got all kinds

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Speaker 3: Right, And I think for me, the the funny part is.

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Speaker 6: That a lot of these uh not all, but some

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Speaker 6: I can go back and see that you've been interacting

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Speaker 6: fuck y'all were talking about, And like, honestly.

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Speaker 2: How stupid can you be to say, well, women are

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Speaker 4: Nigga hittings on.

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Speaker 2: One part of that is emotional physical mental sperbo. All

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Speaker 2: of the abuses like niggas only hit the women, and

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Speaker 2: it's like they don't have no emotional effect because you

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Speaker 4: Like it's really like, it's like the amount.

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Speaker 2: Of idiots on social media has become overwhelming to me,

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Speaker 2: and they love me for they like mosquitoes in the South.

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Speaker 4: They love me.

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Speaker 3: They just love me.

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Speaker 4: You must stay sweet and it must be the Coco Butter.

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Speaker 4: I don't know they love me.

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Speaker 3: You did get some new shake Coco Butter with a

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Speaker 3: black watch. Shit. Ah, this is fucking crazy, like all

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Speaker 3: sweet out there on the Twitter streets.

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Speaker 2: This isn't me going like all you bitch ass niggas.

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Speaker 2: I hope y'all hit me up because y'all need to

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Speaker 2: stop hitting these women. This is just me live tweeting

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Speaker 2: a documentary and all of a sudden, this you bashing

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Speaker 2: on men.

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Speaker 4: No, men don't bad on women in this documentary.

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Speaker 2: And I'm talking about it that like, literally, you look

444
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 2: at these pictures and tell me how I'm supposed to go.

445
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 7: Well, what does she do?

446
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 4: Did she say some emotional violence? Shut the fuck up? God.

447
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 7: Yeah.

448
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 6: And the thing about it is that social media has

449
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 6: bought to light a lot of issues to the four point,

450
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 6: But social media has about the light how fucking stupid

451
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 6: and dumb and idiotic people are. You just didn't realize

452
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 6: how many stupid people were in the world until social media.

453
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 2: I mean, he the leader of his tweets. It looks

454
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 2: like cuz you know, that's what niggas do these days.

455
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: But he put grown men out here blocking people that

456
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 2: shit is gay, but act like a bitch, and the

457
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 2: bitches flocked big business these days didn't get blocked.

458
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 4: I called him out. I'm paying her into an audience

459
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 4: for his website hits though.

460
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 2: Great, huh, yeah, that's what it is, guys, Rod the

461
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: king of the website hits right, right.

462
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 4: That's why I'd say these things, okay.

463
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 6: Right, right, So then you just show me that your

464
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 6: homophobic and all this other shit too, okay.

465
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 4: Done, all right, they always do.

466
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 8: Man.

467
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 2: That was another chick I can't even remember her name

468
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: right now, but she said some stupid shit on Twitter

469
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 2: about like, you know, my mom made it with no

470
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 2: job and she never needed government assistance and she always

471
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: provided for me and my sister and blah blah blah.

472
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: And then she texted her mom and found out that

473
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: her mom was on government assistants at some point. She

474
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: was at the time, she was down in people that

475
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: were on government assistance, like why don't y'all just work

476
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: harder and blah blah blah, you don't need to spend

477
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: all that money. Come to find out her mom was

478
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 2: on it, and her mom basically was like, fool, I

479
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: was on it, don't you know you being stupid?

480
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 9: Right?

481
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 3: I just never told your ass.

482
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 2: Right, So she was not like THEMN you know, And

483
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, man, people was getting on

484
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: your shit. But you know, it's her mom's business. She

485
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,479
Speaker 2: probably didn't want you to know for whatever reason. It

486
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: doesn't matter as long as your childhood was happy. And

487
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: you know, I'm cool with you, so don't worry about it, right,

488
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, cool, cool.

489
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 4: I follow her back and follow each other. It was cool.

490
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 4: It was about the time of the wedding actually that

491
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: my brother had the other day.

492
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: Of course, Charles Barkley says that dumb ass shit about

493
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: black people being the worst, and I was like, yeah,

494
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 2: that's not really true, blah blah blah. And then she

495
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: came in mind mentioned some mad confrontational, you know, complete

496
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: acb me and not being able to read all the shit,

497
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is my fault. Why do I

498
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 2: ever give people a chance? I really shouldn't. I really

499
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: should not give people a chance. If I wouldn't have

500
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: gave her a chance the first time, been like, what

501
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: a dumb idiot? Of course your mom was on some

502
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: sort of whatever, and you, of course you're stupid to

503
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: be judging people for being on it, period, and you're

504
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: probably gonna be full of other dumb ass opinions that

505
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: just are full of dumb assery.

506
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 4: Of course, why wouldn't you.

507
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: Because that's a dumb ass opinion that dumb people have.

508
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: And I was like, nah, maybe she just had a

509
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 2: bad day. You know, it's not a bad day. Every

510
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 2: day is a bad day. When you have the fucking

511
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 2: like brain capacity of a king chasing one of those

512
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: red dot lasers on the wall, you're stupid. It's my fault,

513
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: it's not their fault.

514
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 3: And the thing is that, you know, sometimes people can

515
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 3: have an off day. Give me so.

516
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 6: I mean, I can completely understand. Like I said, it's

517
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 6: just that when it comes to uh, I do have patience.

518
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 6: Uh I put like this, I have more patience in

519
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 6: real life than I do on social media.

520
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: I have zero patients on social media.

521
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 6: Because in my mind, I have to deal with shit

522
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 6: in real life.

523
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna deal with shit on social media. But

524
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 3: this is just me.

525
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 6: So when you come home to you and I'm like,

526
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 6: fuck you, block, fuck you block block block. You know,

527
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 6: we're not having a conversation. We're not talking. I don't,

528
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 6: you know, coming down the sideways, uh, saying random shit.

529
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 6: I just don't because I won't my I controlled my

530
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 6: social media experience and I want it to be pleasant.

531
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 6: If you come over here with some bullshit in idiocricy,

532
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 6: I don't have to deal with it.

533
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: That's the pleasure of social media, man.

534
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: These fucking the dudes that the dudes that don't put

535
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: their pictures in their avatars and shit like that, man,

536
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: just so fucking stupid. Like the people that like got

537
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: cats and dogs avatars, I'm sorry you got a cat

538
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: or dog, put a fucking face in there, because you know,

539
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 2: you all gotta go in the same category, right with

540
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: the eggs eggs eggs shirtless dudes.

541
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: Like it's just a level of animals.

542
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like it's you know, hate to stereotype all

543
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: you motherfuckers, but it's a very oigh percentage of y'all

544
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: that are just trolls and people I don't want share

545
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: opinions with.

546
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 4: Why real talk, man.

547
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 6: Because you don't want to put anything publicly about yourself

548
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 6: out there.

549
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 4: All right?

550
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know your troll you know, you're gonna

551
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: say stupid shit, then you wonder why nobody wants to

552
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: follow your ass and shit like that, Like right, probably stupid.

553
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 6: Right, And then I go, you know, look on your timeline,

554
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 6: you have you know, eight followers, but you know twenty

555
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 6: thousand tweets. All your tweets are just acting people and

556
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 6: saying just the dumbest.

557
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 4: Shit, right, So I don't know, man.

558
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: Anyway, Private Violence was a really good documentary and they

559
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: did eventually lock up the dude, Robbie. They actually have

560
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: a scene in the courtroom with another woman and like

561
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: it's so crazy, like they she gets up and they

562
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: basically are like, I think she's I don't even think

563
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: she's testifying. I think it was just like the hearing

564
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: to see like how like when the trial was or

565
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: something like that. And so he's at the hearing, the

566
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: abuser dude, he walks like the baylor gets ready to

567
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: walk him out of the room, and right when he

568
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: gets to the door, he just turns around and just

569
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: stares at her for like ten seconds straight, like a

570
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 2: like an NFL player looking at a quarterback or something,

571
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like just like I'm.

572
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: Like, it's so fuck you. Up right, and it's so obvious.

573
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 3: And it's intimidating.

574
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: It's like something out of a fucking movie, and you're

575
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: just thinking, like, there's a chance that dude gets to

576
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: walk the street because fuck it, you.

577
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: Know, but we all know what that dude's gonna do.

578
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: And the woman at the beginning, it starts with like

579
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: a guy's like, I know where you're at.

580
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 4: I know you're at the shelter, which.

581
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: He's not supposed to know where it's at, and he's like,

582
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come over there.

583
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 4: I want to meet you. Meet me at this gas

584
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 4: station up the street.

585
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: And so she's texting back and forth where you're at

586
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: all this ship And the reason she's texting is because

587
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: because she's told with the people who work at the

588
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: shelter that what he said. And so the people at

589
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: the shelter are like, okay, call, we're gonna call the police.

590
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 4: So they call the.

591
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: Police, and they basically even check with the police, is

592
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: it entrapman if we tell them to come meet her

593
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: somewhere and then we have you guys show up and

594
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: they're like, Nope, it's not a trapment.

595
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 4: So they do it, and they catch the dude.

596
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: And she starts crying because she feels like she betrayed him,

597
00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: Like she's not.

598
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: It's not like tears are relief.

599
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: She's sad that they arrested her abuse her because she's like, Wow,

600
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: I can't believed I had to do that to him.

601
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: I can't believe I did that to somebody because that's

602
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: loved for her.

603
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: Right, right.

604
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 6: And they've had incidents where the police have came and

605
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 6: arrest somebody and the person that's being abused actually jumps

606
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 6: on the officers for arresting this person.

607
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: And that woman had two kids from a previous relationship.

608
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 2: She went back to the dude, and she lost her

609
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: kids to child's services because she They were like, you

610
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: can't have this kid around this abuser.

611
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: He's not their father. It's from a previous relationship.

612
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: So she lost her kids to be with that dude.

613
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: It's just a problem that I can't wrap my mind around.

614
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: I can't relate to it, and I don't know how

615
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 2: you fix something like that because it's so such a

616
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: farm mentality for me. I can't imagine being like this

617
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: person is bad for me and willing to hurt me

618
00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna go back.

619
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: Can you be with them.

620
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 6: For a lot of people, the abuse is and addiction.

621
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 6: If you look at it like that, a lot of

622
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 6: people would look at it very differently. Just like people

623
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 6: are addicted to chocolate, people are addicted to sex, people are addicted

624
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 6: to food, People are addicted to certain things, and it

625
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 6: becomes a part of your lifestyle. If you're addicted to

626
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 6: something and you cannot see your life any other way.

627
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 6: And for a lot of these people, it gets to

628
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 6: the point where that's what it is for them. So

629
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 6: to them, they feel like, I.

630
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: Can't get rid of this addiction.

631
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 6: It's like the it's an overwhelming power for some people

632
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 6: that they cannot control that. They feel like, this is

633
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 6: what I must do, regardless of how much sense it

634
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 6: does not make to other people in their minds. This

635
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 6: is what they feel like, is right?

636
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, man, let's talk about some news articles

637
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: and stuff. Ben Aedic Cumberbatch, who people may know from

638
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: the last time we did the show with Najaala, He's

639
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: gonna be the new Doctor Strange and he said, uh,

640
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: contrary to what na Jela, the lies and falsehood she

641
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: spread about him. He played doctor who and he said,

642
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: Doctor Charlotte, I mean he played Sherlock and he says, uh,

643
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: Sherlock knows how to please a woman. So there you go, guys,

644
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: conclusive proof that the Jayla was wrong. U hit her

645
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: up on Twitter at blazon bitch with a why y

646
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: t h and let her know Ben Aedett come a

647
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: bat does know how to please women, and uh, yeah,

648
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: you do have to be uh the seventeen guys she

649
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: named that she thought were more handsome, because what matters

650
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: is that he's willing to do the do the work.

651
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: There's already articles uh defending Lena Dunham.

652
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: Remember we talked about Lena Dunham yesterday and uh what

653
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: sounded like sexual abuse.

654
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: To her sister?

655
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Well, Sarah Seltzer, like I said, Lena Dunham

656
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: is a huge, huge white.

657
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 4: Feminist Icona like.

658
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: They love her, yes, And you can tell they love

659
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: her because those passages in the book. He seems like

660
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: someone would have discovered and read and put out there already,

661
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: especially in a community that's so much about anti abuse

662
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: and violence and stuff. But it sounds like a bunch

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Speaker 2: of people bought that book and either framed it, put

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Speaker 2: it on their wall and never read it, or they

665
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: read it and thought, I'm not gonna say anything because

666
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: the book was out for a couple months and nobody

667
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: read this talked about this. So she writes, Lena Dunnam's

668
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: triggering art doesn't make her an abuser, no matter what

669
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: some transphobic bigot insists.

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00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 4: That's right.

671
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: It sounds more like we're gonna be protecting the person

672
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: the art, not the you know, the principle. This past weekend,

673
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: The National reviews Kevin Williamson notable for his transphobic piece

674
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: Laverne Cox is not a woman and an infamous women

675
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: who get abortion should be hanging. Tweet moved on to

676
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: attacking Leana Dunham for writing about her own rape and

677
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: her memoir Not that kind of girl. H Now, it's

678
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: funny because that, like, that's not really how most people

679
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: found out. They found out through another right wing nut.

680
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 2: But you know it's it's a right wing It's like,

681
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 2: because you find out from a bad source, does that

682
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: make the information not valid?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

684
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 6: But for a lot of people, yeah, but nah, nah, No,

685
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 6: no matter how bad the person is, sometimes they do

686
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 6: speak the truth, but people just ignore it because of

687
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 6: the source.

688
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: Even a broken clock, right, and it's funny because now

689
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: it's turning into a right wing left left it's coming.

690
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: It's turned into like a right versus left political issue,

691
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: which is amazing because that's exactly what she wanted when

692
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: she was like, oh, two old Republican men, Like it

693
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: was just so like everything you can hide behind. I'm

694
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: a feminist, their men, their their politics, like anything you

695
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: can hide behind other than well, I did write that shit,

696
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: and that is what it said. Right anyway, Why does

697
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: she have the right to accuse a man of right

698
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: without having to take responsibility for the accusation, he said,

699
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: Cherry picking.

700
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 4: Through her memoir was what she was.

701
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 2: She herself clearly mistreated her sister, she said, mistreated dog whistle,

702
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: her sister mistreated.

703
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 4: Okay, also like.

704
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: It was funny because people found a picture from her

705
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: Instagram where you know, she was saying, like, you know,

706
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: it's not funny to call me, uh, it's you know,

707
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: it's nothing funny about calling me a sexual abuser blah

708
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: blah blah or sexual predator. And they found a picture

709
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: on her Instagram of her little sister from when they

710
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 2: were kids, where she dressed her sister up to look

711
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: like a Hell's angel or something. And in the in

712
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: the picture, uh, she says, you know, throwback Thursday, that

713
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: time I dressed my five year old sister as a

714
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: Hell's Angel.

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Speaker 4: Sex property hashtag nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: So you know it's like, you know, not saying that

717
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: that means she was abusing her or nothing.

718
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Speaker 4: But it's like, well, you can joke about it that way.

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00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: You know, he definitely didn't mind talking about it then,

720
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: but now these allegations coming up, it's like, let's not.

721
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: Let's not talk about this anymore. So, yeah, to.

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Speaker 2: Make that claim, he found an he found an innocent

723
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: in her memoir that indeed shows I mean an incident

724
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: in her memoir that indeed show has done them exhibiting

725
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: lack of boundaries at age the age of seven, which

726
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: is an aggravated piece that exploded was accidentally initially published

727
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: as sel. When she poked inside her babies sisters vagina

728
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 2: for an impromptu anatomy, Lesson found a power of pebble

729
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: stats within. Dunham struck back in a series of tweaks,

730
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: But what happened next was unfortunately exactly what Donham's right

731
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: wing attackers wanted. Some feminists men who already disliked Donald's

732
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: privilege and persona joined the hue and cry. Some even

733
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: label all supporters of Dunhams as enablers of rape and abuse.

734
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 2: So what the subtext here is black feminists correct because

735
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: black feminists ain't had it for her ass since girls

736
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: like they have been waiting for her to fuck up

737
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: even worse, and this is just another case where it's

738
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: like this motherfucker, you know what I mean. Some even

739
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: label all supporters of dunhimers enablers of rape and abuse.

740
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: To build this case, they cited behavior on Dunham's part

741
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: that legitimately sucks, like outing her sister to her parents,

742
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: along with herself aware jokes about boundary issues and behaving

743
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: like a predator to get her little sister to give

744
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 2: attention and kisses, as well as her admitted have it

745
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: of masturbating in bed as a teenager with her sister

746
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: fast asleep beside her. This kind of self pleasuring was

747
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: slipping sib beside. One is also the opening incident in

748
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Moran's recent novel How.

749
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: To Build a Girl.

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00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: All of these stories have been relayed by Dunham as

751
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: part of a constructed craft. This series of interviews and essays,

752
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: likely leaving out many other details that we simply can't

753
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: know without being a member of the Dunham clan. Which

754
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: is funny because now it's like, oh, well, I'm sure

755
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: there's lots of details that that that make this make

756
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: sense that she.

757
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 4: Wouldn't want to write about word.

758
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's lead the context out because you know that'll

759
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: that'll make it better. It's perfectly understandable to dislike Dunham's

760
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: are and her persona, to note that her pattern of

761
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: behavior doesn't seem like doesn't make her seem like a

762
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: particularly considerate person.

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00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: Artists are nist narcissists who knew to.

764
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: Wish she wasn't quite such a dollar of today's feminist movement,

765
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 2: to wonder if she has such issues to work out.

766
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: She'd agreed to point out that her aesthetic benefits from

767
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: cultural double standards and privilege that is often denied to

768
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: women of color, and to be extremely upset by individual

769
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: instances of her candor as a writer, artist.

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Speaker 4: In public figure. That's a long as sentence, but feminists

771
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 4: have our own word for this. The word is triggering.

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00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 2: Dunham makes triggering art, which is so funny because.

773
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 4: When it's so funny because.

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00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: When somebody you don't like does this shit, triggering is

775
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: the worst thing someone could do in the world, Like

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00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: it'll shut down a conversation.

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00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 6: You know.

778
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons we don't ever say trigger

779
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 2: alert on our podcast. We don't ever say this word

780
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 2: might trigger you. We like, honestly, we're not gonna stop

781
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: the conversation. We much rather you just avoid listening at all,

782
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: because there's no topic that's off limit on our show.

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00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 6: Right, But I don't have I don't have the responsibility

784
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 6: to make you feel comfortable.

785
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: Right, But then then to try to say like, oh, no, no, no,

786
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: she's trying to trigger people and that's why. Alright, so brilliant,

787
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: then get the fuck out of here. So why instead

788
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: are we using the right wing handbook at at demanding

789
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: the burning and renouncing of all things done them. This

790
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: is the case where the word trigger is quite appropriate.

791
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: Some people find her work okay, Others are disturbed. Some

792
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: want to steer clear of the artists forever. Some want

793
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 2: to read more of her words immediately. Some say they've

794
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: been abused and they definitely recognize abuse and Dunelm stories.

795
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 2: Some say they have been abused and this is not abused.

796
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: There's no clear consensus as to the right reaction to

797
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: her written words because there's so many clear consensions to

798
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: all the other things that people talk about. So why

799
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: would we adopt a scorch and burn, Yes, there's a

800
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: drop dentum dunalm hashtag approach when we could instead say, hey,

801
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: this poison this person's art, which as such is not

802
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: in any way the whole truth of her life in

803
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: context is really triggering. So wait, she wrote memoirs that

804
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: aren't the truth, or they're not the whole truth, Like

805
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: what is to deal with this? Now?

806
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 4: It's not the.

807
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: Truth because you don't want it to be right, because

808
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: there has to be something more. It's kind of like

809
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 2: when people first said, like when when like accusations about

810
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: like Woody Allen come out and then people are like, well,

811
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: you know it has to be I mean he said

812
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: he waited till this and that, and there's all this

813
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: other evidence. It's like, yeah, but I mean, how can

814
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: we know. We weren't there, We didn't see it. It

815
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: wasn't on camera, you know, with r Kelly had it

816
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: on cameras, Like yeah, but I mean, how.

817
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 4: Old it's fifteen? Really it's always something.

818
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: Labeling something triggering difference from labeling something someone that's toxic,

819
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 2: never touched again, abuser enjoining, whether gleefully or with softphone

820
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: clasped hands, a misogynist rape culture denied smear campaign started

821
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: by a transphobic bigot. Certainly, there are many legitimate questions

822
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: to raise about Dunnald's behavior and what we ourselves would

823
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: accept as parents. Personally, I'm intrigued by the discussion that

824
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: has ensued about how what balance is encouraging kids healthy

825
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: sexual exploration with the establishment of boundaries. Big ethical questions

826
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: have also yet again been raised about telling me to

827
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: telling other people's story your memoir.

828
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 4: I studied writing with a group of memoirs who.

829
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 2: Disagreed about where the uncrossable lines lie for two years straight.

830
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: Okay, whatever, and what the public accepts from white artists.

831
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it has to be something about her

832
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: and what the public accepts from white artists that we

833
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't accept from people of color. And there are further

834
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 2: issues about female created narrative and how we tend to

835
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 2: unfairly conflate characters the stories written by women, in particular

836
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: with the writer's actual life.

837
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Speaker 4: But she really said, this is my life. I just

838
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 4: don't get how this person like this is so even.

839
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: It's almost like I hope she's lying so I can

840
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: say that you know she's lying, not to mention just

841
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: because the god brought it up the campaign quote unquote

842
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: didn't come from him like.

843
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 4: This isn't a bunch of right wing people controlling this.

844
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: This is people that within the spectrum of feminists or whatever,

845
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 2: who are like, no, this is wrong, and it doesn't

846
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 2: matter if you're a fan of hers. What she's doing

847
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: is wrong. She's an adult and she shouldn't put this

848
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: shit out here without some sort of like self reflection

849
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: and realizing that this is abuse. Correct, we should talk

850
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: about all the aforementioned issues, and we should certainly talk

851
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: about abuse, should we, because it seemed like this whole

852
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: time you haven't. But when it comes to hard accusations

853
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: we should also know this is Obviously the authority figures

854
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: in Dunhald's life knew what was up and took steps

855
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 2: they deemed appropriate for a seven year old child. In fact,

856
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: Donald started therapy soon after this incident, and her parents

857
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: were aware of what happened. Meanwhile, her sister is managing

858
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: her book tour and has this to say, which is

859
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: always funny because like, if this was Janey Rice, come

860
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: on now, just saying if it was Janey Rice, it

861
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: wouldn't matter what she said.

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00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 4: M let me get the clown.

863
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: Horn on that.

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00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: Uh So, it's like, sure, she's a victim of sexual assault,

865
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: but we want to believe her so we can avoid

866
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: not liking this person.

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00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 2: As a queer person, I'm committed to people narrating their

869
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: own experiences, determining for themselves what has or has not

870
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: been harmful. Today, like every other day, is a good

871
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: day to think about how we police the sexualities of

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00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: young women, queer and trans people, which is some really

873
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: noncommittal statements.

874
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 4: Right, like how you gonna put those tweets in there?

875
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 2: Like, see, guys, she's fine. Of course, Grace Donald's owning.

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Speaker 3: Of it is you off of one hundred and fifty characters.

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00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, of course Grace Donald's owning her story

878
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 2: doesn't mean people who have suffered abuse can't be triggered

879
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: by that story. When Twitter fights of this nature blow up,

880
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: it's evident that they are a great deal of person

881
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: on societal pain floating around it. We should respect that

882
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: pain and those wounds. But memoir and art doesn't necessarily

883
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: exist the bandaged wounds. It's often that to open them

884
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: up to the pi things without an endorsement. And that's

885
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: why it's okay to say something is intentionally triggering or

886
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: distasteful as a warning to the wounded, but unnecessary to

887
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: say that everyone else who consumes that material is that

888
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 2: for a bad person and apologies and an enabler.

889
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 4: Bitch, you a bad person in apologies and enabled. I

890
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 4: read this because because I hate when people do this.

891
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have a.

892
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: Problem with people just being like, yes, what this person

893
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: did was fucked up. I'm still a fan. I'm kind

894
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: of fucked up the end. Instead, it's gotta become like.

895
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: No, I'm not. I'm not enabling them by giving them

896
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 4: my money.

897
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: Because person, you wrote this.

898
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: Piece, you put it on flavorwire dot com. You defended her. Yes,

899
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: you are enabling her. You don't want her to wake

900
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: up to that realization that she might have some shit

901
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: to work out, and you might too, But nah, you

902
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 2: don't wanna do that. It's like I listened to Snoop

903
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: Dogg and then I started walking around like I don't

904
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: have no problems dog, And you know what, snoop dogg

905
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: ain't got no problem with women. I don't get there.

906
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: I don't understand what I was talking about anyway. Now,

907
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: if I lay this hole, I'm gonna pay this hole.

908
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, Come on, man. Oh, like I said,

909
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: if that was Jane Rice or some shit, if I

910
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: wrote this same piece about Ray Rice, he's just using

911
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: controversial abuse as an art form. Like, come on, man,

912
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: memoirs are artists controversial, we all, we are all welcome

913
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: to make judgments about each other for our taste.

914
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, so then don't even write this shit. Let us

915
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 4: judge you. Oh nah, you don't really want us to judge, right,

916
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 4: You don't really want to right to judge you?

917
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 8: Right?

918
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: Uh, feel free to look at me and say she's

919
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 4: a bougie idiot for enjoying girls.

920
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: But calling the artist and a hole is very different

921
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: from definitively saying she's one hundred percent and abuser and

922
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: demanded her immediate public shaming.

923
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 4: Work.

924
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I wish we feminists could stick with

925
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: the nuanced terms and conversations that we ourselves began to

926
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 2: lead the reactionary takedown tactics to the right wing. Oh man,

927
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: people are already responding Julia and right, what Juliana right saying?

928
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,959
Speaker 2: All this pattering on Leena Dunnell's back is getting tired.

929
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: So I'm seriously starting to believe this girl could write

930
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: it on paper that she set someone on fire and

931
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 2: there would be still be journalists and fans a praising

932
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: her for speaking out and owning.

933
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 4: Up to it.

934
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: Of course, how do I like this?

935
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 4: Like, oh, I gotta sign in? Never mind?

936
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: Some one said, so, there's a few major problems with

937
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: this piece. First and foremost, you seem to be the

938
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: one taking pages from the right wing playbook, and that

939
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: you're making something completely one hundred percent not a political

940
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: issue into one, Like what exactly does any of this

941
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 2: have to do with being liberal or conservative? By referring

942
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: to Kevin Williamson as a transphobe bigger than the headline,

943
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: it's completely non six ago. Of course he completely is,

944
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: and the National Review is garbage and that's not the point.

945
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 4: But that's not the point at all. What on earth

946
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: does any of that have to do a done him?

947
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: Despite his shady intentions, he helped bring attention to a

948
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: very valid conversation about abuse people are not specifically upset

949
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: about a seven year old kid being curious about a vagina.

950
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: They're upset about the seemingly abusive behavior in the years

951
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: that follow that Lena laid out in the book. She

952
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: literally compares her actions to that of a sexual presator

953
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 2: and heavily details using bribes and tragedies to emotionally manipulate

954
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 2: her sister and the incestuous acts. So yes, of course

955
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: this is triggering for several abuse victims, who you seem

956
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: to be dismissively lumping into a category with feminists who

957
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: don't like a TV show. You are absolutely right, and

958
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: that only victims own their stories and have the ultimate

959
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: saying whether or not they actually consider themselves an abuse victim.

960
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: If Grace does not consider self a victim of abuse,

961
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: there's not much more to do than condemned Lina's actions

962
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: like that. Also, FYI, this sounds shockingly similar to Woody

963
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: Allen supporters what they were writing after his abuse allegations

964
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: of servicing.

965
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: That's true, that's true.

966
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: You know, Lina gould probably be in one of the

967
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 4: Woody Allen movies. Eventually.

968
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: That's gonna be some hot fire Polanski dude.

969
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 4: M the Internet don't explode. I can't wait.

970
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: All the agendas couldlide in at the same time. Feminists

971
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: that took.

972
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 4: Down with the Allen and now they icon is in

973
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 4: the movie Oh All's gonna happen.

974
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: Oh man, she responded to some of these people, which

975
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the wisest thing to do

976
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 2: that truth.

977
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 4: So, I don't know, man, It's just amazing people.

978
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: People love them, Selena Dunham dog like they really defended

979
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: that ship. I'm telling you that Kelly shit came out.

980
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: I was not sitting up here talking, but what seems

981
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: like you're ready, y'all are such a good album.

982
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 4: Like I was just like, yeah, that's yeah, that's unfortunate.

983
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 6: Right, I'm not gonna defend your glass pissing on children

984
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 6: and ship.

985
00:48:59,080 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: I don't care how.

986
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 6: But you you put your body out there halfway negative

987
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 6: and embracing yourself.

988
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 3: It don't excuse that behavior.

989
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 4: Mmm you want to be be.

990
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: Fraid, put your tennies out for the world to see.

991
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: But it's still excuse behave you the main one trying

992
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: to take down wood the island and here you go.

993
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

994
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: You all was the main ones talking about some good

995
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: for her when me and Pharaoh came out and was

996
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 2: talking bad about him and.

997
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 4: Shit, good for hers. About time Hollywood.

998
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: Stood up to the abuse that Woody Allen's like, and

999
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: people was making that say, well if the if she

1000
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: married him and she doesn't feel that she's a victim, then.

1001
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: Who are you to say that? Yeah, it's like, well

1002
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 4: what about you know the other daughter?

1003
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: Well look, man, i mean she she she she was

1004
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: a kid and she don't really remember. I mean, how

1005
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna take her word over without it's like so

1006
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: much shit that just you just throwing the air to

1007
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: the fen the person why cause you fucking.

1008
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 4: Like them, right, because you fucking like them.

1009
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 3: Right.

1010
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: And the thing is the initial incident that they're talking

1011
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: about that they do the path, the original passage from

1012
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: it's just one It's just one incident. It went on

1013
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: for years, Like it wasn't just one time with a

1014
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: seven year old, you know, it was for years.

1015
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 4: Don't let's not let's not try to let's not try

1016
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 4: to turn it.

1017
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: Down into some into some ship where it's like, oh no,

1018
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: it's not a big deal.

1019
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 4: They've made bigger deals out of smaller ship.

1020
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: Stop stop like the people that like some of these

1021
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: people like fucking have made a profession out of making.

1022
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 4: Ship into a big deal.

1023
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: But now suddenly, yeah, now suddenly we don't need to

1024
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: rush the judgment.

1025
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 4: Guys, Okay, we don't need to rush it.

1026
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: It's all it's it's that thing I was talking about

1027
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: where it's all about how much you like a person. Right,

1028
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: It's like when you like somebody, it's just uh, people

1029
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 2: will do anything, you know, to out I like this person,

1030
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: Well then I'm gonna I'm gonna be okay, you know,

1031
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna let it go because it's fine.

1032
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: Whatever they do can't be that bad, but whatever, alright,

1033
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 4: good for her. Though she got a she got a

1034
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 4: defense of a girl off Chris Rock. It worked. I

1035
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 4: called it.

1036
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: He did his uh seven minute monologue for Saturday Night

1037
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 2: Live and up rocks Andrew Roberts uh rocks dot com

1038
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: did uh. He said that Chris Rocks Saturday Night Live

1039
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: monologue go too far.

1040
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 6: All the reason why is because of some ship that

1041
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 6: made white folks uncomfortable.

1042
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 2: It wasn't even about race. Can Like he didn't really

1043
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: talk about race. He talked about terrorism.

1044
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 4: Uh, he talked.

1045
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 6: About right, white folks feel uncomfortable America feel.

1046
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 4: I don't think that's a white thing.

1047
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: I think people in America is not comfortable with the

1048
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 2: idea of terrorism and shit like that of Boston bombing

1049
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: and a marathon. I mean, I don't know that you

1050
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: can attribute all this to just race.

1051
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 4: In my opinion. I mean, I watched.

1052
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 6: It, and I guess for me, I guess the biggest

1053
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 6: people why I said, is because you know how our

1054
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 6: country runs.

1055
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 3: You know, Nigga issues don't matter. So that's why I

1056
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 3: was saying.

1057
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 6: You know, you make white people feel uncomfortable about topics,

1058
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 6: it becomes an issue black people who become uncomfortablet topics.

1059
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter even though all these issues affect all

1060
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 6: of us. But American problems aren't American problems until it

1061
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 6: affects a lot of white people.

1062
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 10: All right.

1063
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 2: I guess man, watching it, I didn't feel like, oh,

1064
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: white people are gonna be so mad, like.

1065
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: He's done, he's done.

1066
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: He's done Vince before, and I'm saying that to clarify

1067
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: because he's done things before. A while, I was like, oh,

1068
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 2: this specifically is gonna piss white people off. Like when

1069
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: you talked about July to fourth we talked about the

1070
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: fourth of July on Twitter.

1071
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 4: That is something I'm like, white people will be mad.

1072
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 2: This was just people gonna be mad, like Boston Marathon

1073
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: nine to eleven, you know, the Freedom Tower.

1074
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 4: Like, you know, he's in New York saying these things.

1075
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: And I said, I wonder if he's doing it to

1076
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: kind of just drum up publicity and the go viral,

1077
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: like to get people to watch it. Because the comics

1078
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: were so controversial. It wasn't really like current events. It

1079
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 2: was more like these bigger, more uncomfortable.

1080
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 4: Things, you know. So you know, I wonder what other

1081
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 4: comedians think about it.

1082
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 2: If they think it was brave, if they think because

1083
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't know that it was the funniest thing, I'll

1084
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: play some of it. I don't know that it was

1085
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: the funniest monologue. But it was just one of those.

1086
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 4: Like ooh type of monologue.

1087
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 11: Okay, thank you say you are Hey, It's come true.

1088
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 12: It's great to be back, great to be in New York,

1089
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 12: great to be at Saturday Night Live, it's.

1090
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: Great to be at the Halloween.

1091
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 12: I can't believe some of y'all made it, you know,

1092
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 12: you know, yesterday was Halloween. Tomorrow's the New York City Marathon.

1093
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 4: Yes, scary. You know what could go wrong there?

1094
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 5: Right?

1095
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 4: Well, I don't be alright, don't be all right. New

1096
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 4: York is gonna be fine, just like just.

1097
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: Like Boston's fine. After the marathon.

1098
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 4: You know, well that Boston marathon was scary.

1099
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 7: Man.

1100
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 12: That was scary, man, because I love Boston, I love

1101
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 12: the people there.

1102
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 4: But that was that was probably.

1103
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 12: The most fright sadistic terrorist attack ever to just think

1104
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 12: about twenty six miles.

1105
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 3: Twenty six miles. Twenty six miles.

1106
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 12: Is a long drive if you call it one of

1107
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 12: your friends. Hey, man, I need you to pick me up.

1108
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 12: Will you are about twenty six miles away?

1109
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 4: You better get Huber.

1110
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 3: Twenty six.

1111
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:31,959
Speaker 12: My people jogging for twenty six miles, man, twenty six

1112
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 12: the knees are hurting their feet and killing them. If

1113
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 12: you're a woman, is blood coming out? That is forty

1114
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 12: six miles. You've been training for a year.

1115
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 3: You finally get.

1116
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 12: To the finish line and somebody screams, right, whoa.

1117
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 7: That is horrible, man.

1118
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 12: But hey, the good people of Boston bounce back, that's right.

1119
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 3: And New York who bounts back?

1120
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 7: That's right, New York.

1121
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 12: We had our own terrorist attack and we bounce back.

1122
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 7: That's right.

1123
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 11: Now.

1124
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 12: We got the Freedom Tower, the Freedom Have you seen

1125
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 12: the Freedom towe? You can see it no matter where

1126
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 12: you act. If you can't, if you if you can't

1127
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 12: see it from here in you're Connecticut? Okay, Freedom Tower

1128
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 12: anyway you look? Now, that should change your name from

1129
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 12: the Freedom Tower to the Never going in there Tower,

1130
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 12: because I'm never going in there.

1131
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 6: There has no.

1132
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 3: Circumstance that will ever get.

1133
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 12: Me in that building.

1134
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 4: Oh you kidd there, no dub What do they have?

1135
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 4: Does this building?

1136
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 11: Duck?

1137
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 12: What are they think you?

1138
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 4: Who's the corporate sponsor? Target?

1139
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 11: Stop it?

1140
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: In the same spot. They put another.

1141
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: Skyscraper in the safe What kind.

1142
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 12: Of arrogant Floyd Mayweather crappers dead and the safe? Good

1143
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 12: businesses are they going to put in the Freedom Top?

1144
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 12: They a better put some mandatory stuff in there, stuff

1145
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 12: you can't get like r Rest Family cart, DMV Souse.

1146
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 12: They put a sunglass hunting in there.

1147
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 4: It's gonna be empty.

1148
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 12: I am never going in the Freedom Tower, man.

1149
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 11: Are you kidding me?

1150
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 4: The same spot?

1151
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 12: Hey, I got robbed on forty eighth and eighth about

1152
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,479
Speaker 12: twenty years ago.

1153
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 3: I have not been back to audio.

1154
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 12: I am never gone in the Freedom Tower.

1155
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: I had no, I don't care.

1156
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 12: Scarlet Joehansson is button naked on the eighty ninth floor

1157
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 12: in a plate of ribs.

1158
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: I'm not going any.

1159
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 12: Right, No, no, no, no, no. People that come on, man,

1160
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 12: don't joke about the Freedom Tower. That does have something

1161
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 12: to do with nine eleven. Hey, I'm not talking about

1162
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 12: nine eleven. I'm not.

1163
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 7: I'm not.

1164
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 12: But you gotta realize we are in America, and in

1165
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 12: America there are no sacred days because we commercialize everything.

1166
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 12: So only five years away from nine to eleven seals.

1167
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 12: That's right, you're gonna figu. You're gonna hear it on

1168
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 12: the radio. Come on down the redl officer. These shrimps

1169
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 12: are nine dollars and eleven cents.

1170
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 3: That's right.

1171
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 12: No, that doesn't matter what the holiday is. Martin Luther

1172
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 12: King Day is gonna be the same thing. You're gonna

1173
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 12: be watching TV. Like these toyotas are practically free and

1174
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 12: last free, Last these toyoda's is practically free and last

1175
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 12: this MLK birthday. Marbeu's got a dreams America.

1176
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 4: We commercialize everything.

1177
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 3: Look what we did to Christmas.

1178
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 12: Christmas Christmas is Jesus's birthday.

1179
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: It's Jesus's birthday. Now, I don't know Jesus.

1180
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 12: Look from what I've read, Jesus there is the least

1181
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 12: materialistic person to ever with the earth.

1182
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 4: No blame on Jesus. Jesus kep a.

1183
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 12: Low profile, and we turned his birthday into the most

1184
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 12: materialistic day of the matter of fact, we have the

1185
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 12: Jesus Birthday season.

1186
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 4: It's a whole season of materialism.

1187
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 8: Then at the.

1188
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 12: End of the Jesus Birthday season, we have the nerve

1189
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 12: to have an economist come on TV and tell you

1190
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 12: how horrible the Jesus Birthday.

1191
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 3: Season was this year.

1192
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 12: Oh, we had a horrible Jesus' birthday this year. Hopefully

1193
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 12: business will pick up by his crucifixion.

1194
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 3: Yes, lot on. You try to help Jesus.

1195
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 4: Jesus tried to help.

1196
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 12: Jesus tried to help.

1197
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 4: Hey, I've tried to help.

1198
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 12: You get hurt for helping, that's what happens.

1199
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 4: I went down to washingt d C.

1200
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 12: For an anti gun events okay, anti gun thing at

1201
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 12: the White House.

1202
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm not big.

1203
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 12: Anti dumb, but I just think there should be some

1204
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 12: regulations just in case. Like the same way I can't

1205
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 12: drive a NASCAR down the street.

1206
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be able.

1207
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 4: To have That's how you can tell it from the South,

1208
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 4: a Nascar.

1209
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 12: It's not no machine gun in my house across the

1210
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 12: street from the school. Okay, that's it right, all.

1211
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm not gonna finish all this, but you

1212
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: can see he was hitting topics that not necessarily the

1213
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: funniest topics, a lot of almost like too soon type

1214
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: shit or you know, talking about Jesus and you know,

1215
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: Christianity and stuff. So yeah, they wrote, did Chris Rock

1216
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: Saturay Night Live A go too far already?

1217
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 6: I guess I just have a fucked up since he

1218
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 6: I was like, that's fucked up, boy, I really hate

1219
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 6: to hear what was really fucked up?

1220
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: Then, yep, they had people all they went and found

1221
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: people from Twitter who were who are upset by it

1222
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 2: or you know, at least took one tweet from them.

1223
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 4: They might not even been upset. Some people were laughing,

1224
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 4: some people weren't.

1225
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: But you know, since it's live, all those people that

1226
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: watched it, because hey it's Chris Rock and Prince, which

1227
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 2: is what they wanted, don't be you know, like I

1228
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: can't be mad at people for tuning into being upset

1229
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 2: when Saturay Night Live got these guests to get people

1230
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: who normally don't watch the show to watch the show,

1231
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 2: and of course correct, they're entitled to their opinion as well. Yeah,

1232
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 2: so you had people that were saying, like, this is

1233
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: this opening monolog by Chris Rock on Saturday Live was

1234
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 2: a little uncomfortable talking Boston Marathon.

1235
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 4: Bombing at nine eleven.

1236
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: I love Chris Rock with this Saturday Live monologue is

1237
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. Did Chris Rock just say in

1238
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: the middle of Manhattan at the Boston Marathon was the

1239
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 2: worst terrorist attack?

1240
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 7: You know?

1241
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 4: It was just kind of crazy.

1242
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 6: You know my I guess my level of fucked up

1243
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 6: in this that wouldn't have so m I give it

1244
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 6: a zero.

1245
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 2: But this just me Yeah, So yep, we'll see what

1246
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: happens with his monologue because I know with Martin Lawrence

1247
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: when he went over the top. Uh, they never rebroadcast

1248
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: his monologue and he never was invited back.

1249
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 6: Uh.

1250
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 4: El boogie.

1251
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: Mss Lauren Hill showed up forty five minutes late to

1252
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: Voodoo Fest for for a second time, timing it better,

1253
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: but don't worry. Came she made a minis on stage.

1254
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 4: Count Yeah, I know she did.

1255
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: A lot of people were upset on Twitter and stuff.

1256
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 2: What was funny is it was her. It was her

1257
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: second show of the same day, So like, where'd you

1258
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: go that you were late?

1259
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 4: Like you was in the break room?

1260
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were there already took a nap.

1261
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: It was oh fuck.

1262
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:28,479
Speaker 4: She was set the beginning at six.

1263
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: She took the stage three quarters of an hour late

1264
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: at six forty five. At seven fifteen, while she was

1265
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: winding down on versions of Radio Not, Voodoo personnel with

1266
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: two more bands to come on the Ritual main stage,

1267
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: cut off her microphone and dim the stage, like so

1268
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 2: she was just gonna perform like she wasn't late and

1269
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: like other bands didn't have to go after her.

1270
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1271
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 2: But a little bit later, in a unusually accommodated move,

1272
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 2: Voodoo announced a little less than an hour later than

1273
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: her from the Ritual stage that it had found heill

1274
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: an hour to play a makeup set on fla bo Fleambay,

1275
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: moving her from its biggest platform to its smallest. The

1276
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: Audi instrucked proportionately, maybe because the large crowd for her

1277
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 2: scheduled show had plans to see other headliners, or maybe

1278
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: as many complain on Twitter because they had come to Voodoo.

1279
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 4: Specifically to see the reclusive Warren Hill.

1280
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: So and so had left after her performance right when

1281
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: she delivered a second time. Both the performance and the

1282
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: abbreviation darhard. Fans who huddled in the fifty five degree

1283
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: hill Oh you poor songs, which is definitely not as

1284
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: Warman plays, as the name Flambay applies at ten pm

1285
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: were also waiting at ten fifteen, ten thirty, and ten

1286
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 2: forty five.

1287
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 4: She was forty five minutes late. Again Why do y'all

1288
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 4: keep paying her?

1289
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: The numbers add up in the end the two separate

1290
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 2: half hour long set at two forty five minute delays.

1291
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: So Voodoo Fast Fast goers got from here in the

1292
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: end of hours of performance at ninety minutes of late.

1293
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 5: Oh hell no, man, I don't know, Like I said,

1294
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 5: I just have a certain level of professionalism and this

1295
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 5: is one of them things.

1296
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 6: But I just wouldn't book her like as as a

1297
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 6: person who's.

1298
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 3: In this shit to make money, it makes no sense

1299
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 3: to book her like. No, it just does.

1300
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 6: It's not profitable to you, or it's profitable before the

1301
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 6: short term, and it speaks for on your venue too,

1302
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 6: because people going like, well, I'm not going back to

1303
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 6: your venue because I went and she was late.

1304
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 3: How dare you put up with this?

1305
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: And this person's kind of trying to blame the festival

1306
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 2: for it, and that's what people do. Stop stop it's her,

1307
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: it's her, But that's what you gotta stop. But she

1308
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: was like, this person was like, why didn't they the

1309
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: second time? Because the place I was at eleven, right,

1310
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: she didn't go on till ten forty five. She's like, well,

1311
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: they won't cut her short this time, because you know

1312
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 2: they scheduled the second one. Yeah, they gave her an hour.

1313
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,919
Speaker 2: She stowed up forty five minutes into it. She's like, yeah,

1314
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: so they turned the lights out at first, you know,

1315
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: like that's.

1316
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Speaker 6: What you do because time is up, bitch, time up,

1317
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 6: come on time yep.

1318
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: Oh man, but yeah, they got her like fifteen extra minutes.

1319
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 4: But still you know, the sad.

1320
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 3: Man didn't come and roll her as off stage.

1321
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1322
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, and this these are enablers, man, this yeah, man,

1323
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: you know the second time because then the person goes

1324
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 2: on the right light. Yeah, she she really nailed at

1325
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,439
Speaker 2: the second time around. Yeah, if you had five extra

1326
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: hours to waste.

1327
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 3: Right, who does?

1328
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, yeah, that's that's just crazy.

1329
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 3: Man, I got shit to do.

1330
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 4: Like, do you get a whole check for that?

1331
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 2: So I feel like if I having veen you and

1332
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 2: your ass shows up forty five minutes late to both

1333
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: not only a regular schedule joint, but even the time

1334
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 2: that we made up for you to come back, you

1335
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 2: show up forty five minutes late to that ship.

1336
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 4: Oh hell no, you're not getting your whole check for me, right.

1337
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 3: And and and if venues are smart, they would put it.

1338
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 6: They would start putting it in her stipulation this state

1339
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 6: this ship. You come late or just or if you

1340
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 6: come after a certain.

1341
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 3: Time, we're not paying your ass.

1342
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's a three forces of a uh his three

1343
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 2: forces of a check, motherfucker.

1344
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 3: Right, because you gave me, you gave people three forces

1345
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: of a show.

1346
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 4: Man, all right.

1347
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: Co host of NPR's Car Talk, Uh, Tom Magleo Magliosi

1348
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: died Monday from complications from Alzheimer's.

1349
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I was I was really re sac that that

1350
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 3: that was Michelle.

1351
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

1352
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 3: They they've been doing the show for very very long time.

1353
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 4: He's seventy seven years old. The show up again in

1354
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 4: the nineteen seventies.

1355
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 2: Wo Oh my Gosh became Naturally broadcast in nineteen eighty seven,

1356
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: and up until a few years ago they recorded live

1357
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 2: and then the Alzheimer's stuff with complications, so they haven't

1358
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 2: taked the live show for two years, but the station

1359
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: has been airing old shows, so hopefully they will continue

1360
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 2: to do that. And to honor his brother, the honor

1361
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: raised brother.

1362
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 3: You know, Mann shows.

1363
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do want to just give them props man,

1364
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: because as odd as it seems, I know they weren't

1365
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 2: necessarily a podcast, but I don't think podcasting would exist

1366
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 2: not for Car Talk. You know, I feel like car

1367
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: talk you know people, I know most people probably never

1368
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 2: even heard of, especially young people.

1369
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 4: But if not for.

1370
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 2: Car talk, which is essentially just two dudes talking about

1371
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 2: how to fix your car and delivering different anecdotes and

1372
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 2: like relaying, they made a connection with the audience. They did,

1373
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 2: you know, through over the years and you really got

1374
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 2: to know those guys, and you know, it was one

1375
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: of those things where it wasn't like appointment listening for

1376
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 2: me personally. But you know, every once in a while,

1377
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 2: you hopping the car, you throw it on NPR and

1378
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 2: and you hear them doing it, and those guys were hilarious.

1379
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 2: They were on you know enough that you actually felt

1380
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 2: familiar with them. And people would call up and they

1381
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 2: just like, you know, kicking about the car. And it

1382
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: seemed like even when they didn't know what the answer was,

1383
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: they knew how to talk about it and knew which

1384
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 2: way to point you.

1385
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 6: And one thing I did love about the show because

1386
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 6: I think I was just random listening one day and

1387
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 6: heard them in after a while, it was just in

1388
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 6: my rotation.

1389
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 3: A lot of the shit they talk about you was

1390
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 3: like what you can do that?

1391
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 6: And like they were very educational about cars and how

1392
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 6: to fix cars cheaply and and and they had such

1393
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 6: a great banter with each other. They cracked jokes on

1394
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 6: each other. They would crack jokes on the collars they

1395
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 6: called in people write in. They would make jokes about that.

1396
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 6: They would have this thing called the limericks where they

1397
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 6: would have like a question and.

1398
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 3: One of the brothers would actually the other brother you know,

1399
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 3: about it.

1400
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 6: And it was like a lot of times like math

1401
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 6: related and it was just one of those things where

1402
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 6: he would say he can't remember, but once they say

1403
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 6: he had all times complisations.

1404
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 3: I'd say.

1405
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 6: Oh, he probably literally couldn't remember, you know, because I

1406
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,919
Speaker 6: was actually sad two years ago. I think what twenty

1407
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 6: twelve was when they stopped airing like live shows, and

1408
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,799
Speaker 6: I've guarantee you that product contributed to them stopping early.

1409
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see what else we got here. Oh, Taylor

1410
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 2: Swift took all her money music off of Spotify.

1411
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 3: Why because she actually she broke sales.

1412
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, she made so much money off of right off

1413
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 2: of iTunes and all this stuff that she said, Now

1414
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.

1415
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 4: Make people have to go buy it.

1416
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I'm one of the haters now

1417
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 2: because I'm definitely gonna hate, hate, hate hate off of

1418
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 2: this ship. Because how you're gonna take all your music

1419
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: off of there? The only song left is Safe and

1420
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 2: Sound from the Hunger Game soundtrack.

1421
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 3: Oh, so she took all her music off.

1422
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 4: It's gone.

1423
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 2: Oh she's going everything from nineteen eighty nine is gone.

1424
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 3: Oh, she's gonna make a lot of people mad.

1425
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 2: Yep, so she took it off. It sounds like her

1426
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 2: people decided to her singles. Shake It Off was the

1427
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 2: most played song on Spotify.

1428
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:48,839
Speaker 3: Right.

1429
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 2: Spotify posted on their block basically asking her not to

1430
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 2: do it. They said, we were both young when we

1431
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 2: first saw you, but now there's more than forty million

1432
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 2: of us who want you to state state State. It's

1433
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 2: a love story, baby, just say yes, her spokesman. Spokeswoman

1434
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 2: did not immediately it turn a call of comment. The

1435
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: decision means that a large number of fans will have

1436
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 2: only one option there in nineteen eighty nine, and that's

1437
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 2: the buy, which hundreds of thousands of people have already done.

1438
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:20,719
Speaker 2: Music's most influential artist is simultaneously making a political statement

1439
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 2: and a savvy business move. Most influential, oh will be anyway,

1440
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: how quickly they forget more than seven hundred thousand people

1441
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: about nineteen eighty nine in the first two days that

1442
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,959
Speaker 2: it went on sale last week, according to Nielson SoundScan.

1443
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 2: That already still exceeds the year's biggest one week seller,

1444
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 2: cod Plays Ghost Stories, which sold three hundred and eighty

1445
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 2: three thousand in May. Swift is on pace to challenge

1446
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 2: the one point two million copies she sold the first

1447
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 2: week of her last album Read when it went on sale.

1448
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 2: So maybe they thought Spotify was hurting sales, which I

1449
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: could understand that reasoning, But then to take all your

1450
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:58,839
Speaker 2: music off.

1451
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 3: Right right, that it had just taken off the current one.

1452
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 6: Well, then why didn't you even allow Spotify to put

1453
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 6: have it in the first place.

1454
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 2: Music streaming services and foul share have sharply cut into

1455
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 2: music sales for artists over the past couple of years,

1456
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: many artists complaining that the feed Spotify pays the record labels,

1457
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,839
Speaker 2: the music publishers, with a portion eventually funneled the musicians

1458
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 2: it's too small. The nineteen eighty nine album has never

1459
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: streamed on Spotify, although shake it Off was allowed on

1460
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: the service. All of the music Swift has officially released

1461
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: in her career, including shake it Off, was pulled on Monday.

1462
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 2: Swift Swiss Move has presidents. She briefly pulled Red from

1463
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,839
Speaker 2: Spotify around the time that the album came out, although

1464
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: she didn't remove her entire catalog, and Read eventually appeared

1465
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 2: on Spotify. This summer, swift Road in Wall Street Journal

1466
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: that artists should fight to be paid what they are worth.

1467
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 2: Music is artists important and rare. Swift Road in the

1468
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: Journal and the Journal important, Rare things are valuable, Valuable

1469
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 2: things should be paid for. It's my opinion that music

1470
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: should not be free, and my prediction is that individual

1471
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 2: artists in their labels will Sunday decide that what an

1472
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 2: album's probably point is. I hope they don't underestimate themselves

1473
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 2: or undervalue their art.

1474
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 6: But the thing is that you can't get around free

1475
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 6: and baby, this is.

1476
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 3: The music industry's fault anyway.

1477
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 6: Like when they had a chance to set the standards

1478
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 6: for charging for service, they opted to say fuck you consumer,

1479
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:22,759
Speaker 6: and people's like, well.

1480
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: Fuck, that's been a long time ago though, but but

1481
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 2: but it's twenty fourteen now. I mean, even if someone's

1482
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 2: getting off of Spotify, they're paying ten dollars a month,

1483
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 2: like right, you know, I don't know that.

1484
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 3: And people like, like you said, people are paying for

1485
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 3: the service, so it's not like that.

1486
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 2: I mean, Beyonce made everybody buy her shit, Yeah she

1487
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 2: did that shit ain't on Spotify, So I don't know that. Like,

1488
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: I don't think she's wrong for saying that, Like people,

1489
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 2: we should determine what it's worthing.

1490
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 4: You guys should go buy it or not buy it

1491
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 4: if it's too much.

1492
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 3: You know that's true.

1493
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, so.

1494
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 2: And I you know, I think people get on the

1495
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 2: artists for one to get paid out of a sense

1496
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 2: of entitlement and they're wrong for that.

1497
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, they deserve to get paid. I'm not saying she

1498
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 3: does it.

1499
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we got used to stealing the shit, right,

1500
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: That's that's not okay.

1501
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 3: Right, that's my whole point.

1502
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, she does deserve to be paid for her services,

1503
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:21,440
Speaker 6: yet she does.

1504
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 2: It's like if I found out someone was stealing our shit,

1505
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 2: I'll be mad, like right and rightfully. So we worked

1506
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: hard on it. We put all the costs and the

1507
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: effort and risk into fucking doing it. And if someone's

1508
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: out there just getting the shit for freedom, yeah, it's

1509
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: fucked up.

1510
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 4: Man, It is fucked up.

1511
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with her saying that, or you know,

1512
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 2: and it sounds like maybe Spotify is being challenged to

1513
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 2: like start paying more of what they're making, yeah, because

1514
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 2: they they haven't actually reported the exact numbers and how

1515
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 2: it breaks down, although they claim seventy percent of the

1516
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: revenue it receives goes back to the rights holders in

1517
01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 2: the former royalty payments, but people are saying we're not

1518
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 2: getting that money.

1519
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 6: Right, And people have actually sown like checks of like

1520
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 6: millions of plays and like a few hundred dollars you know,

1521
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 6: they was like, you know, people got all these plays

1522
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 6: and then and that's the thing where you need to

1523
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 6: take that.

1524
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 3: That was Spotify.

1525
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see hopefully, you know, it doesn't start

1526
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: a trend for people that do have Spotify, because if

1527
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 2: it does, I mean, what's the point of having Spotify?

1528
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 3: Correct? If people just gonna take this shit off?

1529
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 2: Yep, Let's see what else we can do before we

1530
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 2: move on. How about this? A man invites his daughter's

1531
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 2: rapist to dinner and then tortures him to death.

1532
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 4: Oh.

1533
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 2: A furious father's facing murder charges after he treated his

1534
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 2: teenage daughter's alleged rapists at dinner before torturing them to death.

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01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 2: The man's fourteen year old daughter was allegedly raped two

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01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: months earlier by a forty five year old married man.

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01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 2: According to The Indian Express, the father invited the man

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01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 2: to his home in northeast Delhi's cow Juri cos for

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01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 2: his last meal before assaulting him. He reportedly strapped the

1540
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 2: allarged rapist to a chair, burned his genitals with heated tongs,

1541
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 2: and then strangled him.

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01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 13: Oh.

1543
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: People say the father turned himself in following the incident,

1544
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: given a detailed statement of the elaboratorture methods he had

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01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 2: carried out. I burned his genitals once he screamed. I

1546
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: did it again. He shuddered.

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01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 4: When I did it the third time, he did not move.

1548
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 4: He was dead. I did not want to kill him,

1549
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 4: The father reported to reportedly told the police, damn, you

1550
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 4: could die from all burnie. I had no idea.

1551
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 2: Those things are sensitive, very you could get death from it.

1552
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 2: The father called the medical sends supplier over to his house,

1553
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 2: saying he wanted to discuss some issues. He served some issue.

1554
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 2: He served him dinner. After the meal, the father overpowered

1555
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: the man that tied him to a chair. He got

1556
01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 2: heated tongs and burned the supplies genital before stranging him,

1557
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 2: letting him to death.

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01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 4: He came to police station and surrendered himself. So he

1559
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 4: choked him. He just lied.

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01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 2: He's like, oh no, no, no, he burned. The balls

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01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: burned and then he dies, like, oh, you choked him

1562
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,799
Speaker 2: to death right after you've burned this man's Police alleged

1563
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 2: the man that been playing the murder since his daughter

1564
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 2: told him about the incident the day it happened. He

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01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 2: did not report it to police, fearing a bad name

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01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: for his daughter because that's how rape culture works for real.

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01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 2: Can't even report the crime because in some countries it

1568
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 2: just makes your daughter look bad because that's how he take.

1569
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 2: It's like, also, now nobody wants to marry her. She's

1570
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 2: you know, religious people come down on you. It's her

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01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 2: fault somehow, and.

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01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 6: In some countries they will charge you the victim, and

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01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 6: they will charge you yep.

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01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, he tortured a rapist and got him some

1575
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 2: sweet vengeance. I say, give him five to ten minutes

1576
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 2: in jail, let him back out.

1577
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 4: Man, what's the ODSI does that one again?

1578
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 3: Right?

1579
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 4: Nobody else rapist dollars will be fine?

1580
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 11: Uh?

1581
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 4: What else we wanna talk about? Oh Gager.

1582
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:12,799
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna read all the shit, but Gager

1583
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 2: wrote this horrendously irresponsible article by Rich juesw Act. I

1584
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: hate gagers. Like what do you call them editorials? I

1585
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 2: guess you would call these articles? And they're starting doing

1586
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 2: way too often, and it's always some hot button issue

1587
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 2: with a strong take, and it's always wrong as fuck.

1588
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 9: You know.

1589
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 4: It's like it's like how I said. Sometimes now I.

1590
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,879
Speaker 2: Can't even get mad when I read a headline because

1591
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 2: I feel like it's I'm so cynical and I'm so

1592
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 2: used to it now. I'm just like, oh, they're trying

1593
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: to make something a race thing, and it's.

1594
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 6: Not right because then you read it and you're like, okay,

1595
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 6: you just said that they get clicks. But when I

1596
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 6: if for the people that actually the few people that

1597
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,599
Speaker 6: actually read the shit, you go, this is in bulletshit

1598
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 6: versus reading the title and getting angry.

1599
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 2: Right like she'll say some shit like it'll say Blake

1600
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 2: Lively wishes.

1601
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 4: She could own slaves. He like, really, you click on it,

1602
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 4: not drue. You know that's not what it really is.

1603
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:16,560
Speaker 2: Well, this person says, stop being such a coward, Queen Latifa,

1604
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 2: and at first that's all it said.

1605
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 4: Then he added dash dash maybe.

1606
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: Because he said Queen Lativa's people canceled an interview with

1607
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby because Bill Cosey is, of course being involved

1608
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 2: in some rape allegations that have been brought up again

1609
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 2: by a comedian, Hannibal Burst.

1610
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 3: And everybody's been talking about it.

1611
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 2: So they made it seem like she doesn't want to

1612
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 2: interview him.

1613
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 6: Right, because she is actually new, I guess, new to

1614
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 6: this as far as you.

1615
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 4: Know, well before you even get your opinion.

1616
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 2: Just let me finish the whole thing, because because you're

1617
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 2: about to sound silly.

1618
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 4: So it was like TMZ, says Bill Cosey.

1619
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 2: Won't be promoted his new comedy tour on Queen Lativa's

1620
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 2: talk show because the queen and her crew got cold

1621
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 2: feed after rape allegations resurface. Production sources tell us Lativa's

1622
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 2: honchos didn't want the association to the eight so the

1623
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 2: eighty six Cosby. They're particularly sensitive because a video from

1624
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 2: Lativa's show just went viral showing a thirteen year old

1625
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: gay kid going crazy on the show at the winning

1626
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:21,959
Speaker 2: vip Ru PAULK tickets.

1627
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 4: Now, what the ass to doing anything? I don't know either.

1628
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 4: Turns out that's not the real story.

1629
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: Sony Pictures Television says, mister Cosby's schedule depends on what

1630
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 2: Queen Lativa's show was postponed at his request and was

1631
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: in no way related to any of our recent or

1632
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: upcoming schedule guests.

1633
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:42,879
Speaker 3: So he canceled.

1634
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 4: Of course, he canceled. He's probably canceling on his shit

1635
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 4: right now.

1636
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 3: Because he knows you gotta stop. He knows he's gonna

1637
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 3: be asked about this.

1638
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, he ain't trying to promote anything right now, because

1639
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 2: this shit he gotta wait till it boils over again,

1640
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 2: lows over, and we can we can forget about it.

1641
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 4: So it's just funny.

1642
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 7: Though.

1643
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 2: It's just funny because Darker wrote this hit piece on

1644
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 2: Queen Latifa just so they could be like, you know, she,

1645
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 2: you know, stop being a coward, blah blah blah. Meanwhile,

1646
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: these cowards left the fucking title up like they were right,

1647
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And he canceled not her

1648
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 2: didn't issue an apology, of course, no, why would But

1649
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: she's a coward.

1650
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:32,719
Speaker 4: She's a coward. Fucking idiots man.

1651
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 2: But they got a lot of clicks. Forty five thousand

1652
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: people shared it.

1653
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 4: Of course, so got a ton of clicks. So I

1654
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 4: guess that's good.

1655
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 3: That's why you did it in the first place.

1656
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the kind of shit that I if

1657
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 2: I was out here trying to get clicks, I wouldn't

1658
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 2: be going you know me, probably shouldn't hit women. I'll

1659
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: be saying shit like Queen Latina was a stupid ass coward.

1660
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 2: Fuck that bitch. Uh, y'all retreat my shoulder. The name

1661
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 2: of the show is The blackoutis dot Com you know.

1662
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 3: Like it, bitch, step to your own punching the.

1663
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 2: Eye right black out tis you know you can stop?

1664
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's play this and then we'll get into

1665
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 2: the games. It's gonna be tough, can but stick with

1666
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: me and believe in yourself and we'll make it.

1667
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, there's a CNN news clip.

1668
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: We've been talking a lot lately about what street harassment,

1669
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: so CNN had to go get some people to talk

1670
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 2: about it themselves.

1671
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 13: Oh my goodness.

1672
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 10: It's a video that so many people have been talking about,

1673
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 10: a woman being called over and over as she walks

1674
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 10: through the streets of New York. A viral video marketing

1675
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,759
Speaker 10: agency actually made this video.

1676
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 14: Featuring this actress from a foreign anti street harassment group

1677
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 14: called Holla Back. Joining now to talk about this video

1678
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 14: and the controversy surrounding again Amanda Seals, a stands up

1679
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 14: comedian who has been featured on VH one's Best Week Ever,

1680
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 14: And Steve Santagati, author of Code of Honor and the

1681
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 14: best selling book The Manual.

1682
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 13: All right, good to see both of you.

1683
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 10: Okay, So Amanda, you first, it's too much being made

1684
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,799
Speaker 10: of this video or you know, what is the message

1685
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 10: that you get or that you're you know, you and

1686
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 10: your friends and colleagues have been talking about as a

1687
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 10: result of seeing the video, Oh, I.

1688
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 15: Live this life every day, so nice for me.

1689
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 3: This is like.

1690
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 2: Now we're a minute in, she says, I live this

1691
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 2: life every day. If you've seen the video, it's about

1692
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: the uncomfortableness of the cat called and harrassed on the street.

1693
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: This guy's reaction is nice. Nice, And that's how you know.

1694
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:58,440
Speaker 3: This is gonna be some bullshit?

1695
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 13: And how are you interpreting this?

1696
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 10: Are these Are you interpreting this as compliments?

1697
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 13: Are you annoyed by it?

1698
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 3: Wow?

1699
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 15: This is not This is not complimentary, Which is funny

1700
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 15: because I think guys think that by letting you know

1701
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 15: that they would be interested in sleeping with you, that

1702
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,520
Speaker 15: that is a compliment. And actually it's really just objectifying

1703
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 15: me when I'm trying to.

1704
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 13: Walk in my daily life.

1705
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 15: I have a whole fifteen minute set on stage about this.

1706
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 3: You know, bless you ma about yo wa see you ma?

1707
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 15: You know you're supposed to be smiling. Women are expected

1708
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 15: to the minute we leave the house. We are expected

1709
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 15: to be smiling and available for whatever men want to

1710
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 15: say to us. And don't get me wrong, Hello is fine.

1711
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 15: Like I'm from Grenada in the West. If someone says

1712
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 15: hello and you don't say hello back, that is actually

1713
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 15: considered rude. But a lot of these men, they're not

1714
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 15: just saying hello. They say hello. And when you say

1715
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 15: hello back, what that means is that's an invitation to

1716
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 15: now holler at you.

1717
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 13: And I can see you shaking your head.

1718
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 15: But you are not an expert on this, my brother,

1719
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 15: because you are not a woman walking in the street.

1720
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 13: No, no, But I am more of an expert.

1721
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 3: I'm more of an expert.

1722
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 8: Than you, and I'll tell you why, because I'm a guy,

1723
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 8: and I know we think more than you guys will

1724
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 8: ever know. I can't get in a woman's head anymore

1725
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 8: than just like thinking about it. But I'm a guy

1726
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 8: and I know why these guys do this. The bottom

1727
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 8: line is this, lady's you would not care. If all

1728
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 8: these guys were hot, they would be.

1729
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 2: Now at this point in the video two and a

1730
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 2: half in his in this is why I say. Look,

1731
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 2: and I know all y'all can't relate, not all y'all

1732
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: can understand, but I'm like, thank god, it's a white man.

1733
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 2: Thank God. Finally, ha ha. Finally a white man fucked up,

1734
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 2: fucked up. Oh, it's been much y'all. I'm talking about

1735
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 2: since Steven A. Smith, maybe even before that says a

1736
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: white man has been the face of fucking ignorance on

1737
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 2: some sexism going black women.

1738
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 4: Thank God. The streak is Oh, I'm gonna for one.

1739
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 2: I for want am glad for the reprieve because I said,

1740
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 2: this dude is a fucking.

1741
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 4: Idiot, but at least he ain't black. Finally a white idiot. Sorry,

1742
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 4: but that's how I felt. That's the race on that one.

1743
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: Also, if they were hot, I hate that. I hate

1744
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 2: this this debate about that. Yeah, so if they were hot,

1745
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 2: I'm still I'm still not gonna be late to what

1746
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be.

1747
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 4: I'm still not gonna be married. I'm still not gonna

1748
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 4: be busy.

1749
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 2: I'm still not you know what I mean, Like, Oh,

1750
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 2: he was attractive, Well then yeah, walk up to me

1751
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 2: and say, damn, bitch, look.

1752
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 4: At your ass. Yeah, that's absolutely fine, thank you. It's

1753
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 4: an idiot.

1754
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 2: Like one thing that a lot of these dudes take

1755
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 2: for granted is uh, maybe just because they see it

1756
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,799
Speaker 2: from our perspective and not where perspective.

1757
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 4: But it's a lot of dick out here on the streets.

1758
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 3: It's a lot of dick.

1759
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 4: It's not like, oh, thank god you said something.

1760
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna get off of any dick today and

1761
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 2: I was starting to get nervous.

1762
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 4: You know, you know what I mean. Your woman's phone

1763
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 4: number is full of dick.

1764
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 2: Like, it's full of dudes that just willing to drop

1765
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: everything to drop some dick. This really, dick is just

1766
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 2: not a finite resource when it comes to know. So

1767
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 2: this idea of like, yeah, you know, if you was

1768
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 2: if it was Tay Diggs, I bet you'd be like,

1769
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 2: mm hmm, I'm so glad you said something.

1770
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 8: Why these guys do this? The bottom line is this

1771
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 8: lady's you would not care if all these guys were hot.

1772
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:51,600
Speaker 8: They would be bolstering yourself. There is nothing more.

1773
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 2: Than yeah, I'm forgetting that. It's like a Manda Seals

1774
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 2: or something. Her face is in this video. Let me

1775
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:58,759
Speaker 2: put this in chat face.

1776
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 3: God, she was on camera like like you could literally tell.

1777
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 6: It took use off God so much that she forgot

1778
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 6: she was over Well.

1779
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: I guess she's a comedian as well as she does

1780
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 2: some YouTube videos and Brendan from where Zorn Fodiegers was saying, like,

1781
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 2: she's normally not this same irrational, so don't get used

1782
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 2: to it. But I don't give a fuck. She was

1783
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 2: good in this video. Our faces was they was up

1784
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 2: to Bowmoni level.

1785
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 4: They was priceless.

1786
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 3: The face.

1787
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1788
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 2: Also like the other black woman house, her face too

1789
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 2: was like nigga, what Yeah.

1790
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 3: It wasn't as screwed up, but it was.

1791
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 4: Yeah. That's some moments though.

1792
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 8: Woman loves to hear and of how pretty she is.

1793
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 8: Now this particular video speaks for itself. These guys obviously

1794
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 8: don't have a lot of class. But I'm also very

1795
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 8: suspicious because this was put together by an ad agency

1796
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 8: to go viral. So how do we know some of

1797
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 8: those guys were planted?

1798
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 13: Right? Okay, so yeah, so now let's get to the.

1799
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: Audi Also, don't we have to have the we have

1800
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 2: to have the conspiracy level. How do you know that

1801
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 2: just isn't done for clicks or it's always got to

1802
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: you something right, And.

1803
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 6: Just because I walk out my house, I'm walking to

1804
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 6: my house looking for you to fucking praise me.

1805
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 2: Even if it was planet, if thousands and thousands of

1806
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,440
Speaker 2: women tell you this is the experience, okay.

1807
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 6: Right, regardless if you experienced, they're not even as a woman.

1808
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 3: It does not mean it.

1809
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 6: Does not exist, right because oh it doesn't matter.

1810
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,839
Speaker 15: What it doesn't matter because even if they were planted,

1811
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 15: this is actually very accurate, specific.

1812
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 13: Accurate.

1813
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 15: And I will and so what you're saying that But

1814
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 15: what's funny is that you're saying that you know how

1815
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 15: men think. Your comment was actually in about wait, but

1816
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 15: actually your comment was about saying how women think that

1817
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 15: women were.

1818
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 13: My wrong men all day?

1819
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 7: You were wrong?

1820
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 3: You are wrong.

1821
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 13: I stopped you before you started.

1822
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 3: Does this enlictit?

1823
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 13: I guess the.

1824
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 10: Conversation of you know, how accurate is this depiction of

1825
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 10: real life?

1826
01:29:58,720 --> 01:29:59,799
Speaker 13: Or is it an issue?

1827
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 10: You know, how authentic is this view? Based on the

1828
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 10: fact that it was made by a company who wanted

1829
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 10: to elicit a response to you wanted to go viral?

1830
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 10: Did they push the envelow wasn't done in the correct manner.

1831
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 8: It's just a it's just another It's just another example

1832
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 8: of a lot of feminists that have an ala carte

1833
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 8: attitude towards.

1834
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 4: It meaning uh, and we go again.

1835
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 2: When you say, when people say feminists like that yeah

1836
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 2: you all right, No, it's gonna be some ship too,

1837
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 2: because he put the quotesa up like feminists.

1838
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 10: Below, wasn't done in the correct manner.

1839
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 8: It's just another example of a lot of feminists that

1840
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 8: have an ala carte attitude towards it, meaning you can

1841
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 8: do this, I want to you know, this sort of thing,

1842
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 8: but they take it too far. It's kind of like

1843
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 8: this thing bordered on the boy who cried Wolf, Like,

1844
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 8: where's it gonna go next? So you're telling me then

1845
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 8: if I compliment you on the street, it's some sort

1846
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 8: of abuse, no matter how I choose to do it.

1847
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 8: That means if you don't compliment me, no, hold on,

1848
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 8: hold on, If you don't.

1849
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 2: First of all, that's not what they're saying, right right,

1850
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 2: So we established that that's not what they're saying.

1851
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, let's keep going.

1852
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 8: If you don't compliment me, no hold on, hold on.

1853
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 8: If you don't compliment me when I walk by, that's abuse.

1854
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 8: You didn't bolster my self esteem. I want to find you.

1855
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 8: I want to start a coalition against women who don't

1856
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 8: compliment men.

1857
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 2: People, I mean, women should be okay, like this is

1858
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 2: the stupid this is and by the way this is

1859
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 2: what everyone sounds like defending the street harassment ship.

1860
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah all sound this is stupid? Did he get that?

1861
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 3: He oh he ran he read twitter quotes right right.

1862
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 2: It's just really like it gotta be two sizes Scott,

1863
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 2: like the dude this morning gotta be too side. What

1864
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 2: about the emotional abuse the women put us through? How

1865
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 2: many men are scared of their wives.

1866
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 3: Like doing punching him in the fucking face?

1867
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,799
Speaker 4: Oh hey, doll, yeah, shut up hey.

1868
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 10: With this because it is a compliment me. These guys

1869
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 10: are saying, you know what, I like the way you look.

1870
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 10: You've done everything right as you've stepped out the house

1871
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 10: and just leave it at that. And Amanda, you're saying

1872
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 10: or tell me what you're saying?

1873
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 13: Are you saying? You know this is? This is what

1874
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,799
Speaker 13: I'm saying, that you are wrong.

1875
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:16,680
Speaker 15: What I'm saying is that he's wrong, and that the

1876
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 15: reality is that a lot of women when we leave

1877
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 15: the house, we are not looking for compliments. We are

1878
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 15: not strolling the streets waiting like is anyone going to

1879
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 15: notice these pants today? Like that's not actually how we

1880
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 15: are approaching our day.

1881
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,600
Speaker 13: We are atom it's going where we're going and The

1882
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 13: other thing is.

1883
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 15: The other thing is is that I think a lot

1884
01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 15: of people who don't live in New York also don't

1885
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 15: understand this. When you live in New York City, you

1886
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 15: don't often get the luxury of being in a car,

1887
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 15: and being in a car gets to isolate you from

1888
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 15: like being in the world and basically all the time.

1889
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 8: Is right, I get it, I live there. No one's

1890
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 8: holding a gun to your head telling you have to

1891
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 8: live in New York City.

1892
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 2: First of all, what what like it's really like?

1893
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 13: Like?

1894
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 2: Honestly, I mean, this is one of the reason I

1895
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 2: hate the news. This is on a news shadow seeing it,

1896
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 2: seeing it shouldn't even be covering it this way.

1897
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 4: Let's bring a jackass on the cover this with a.

1898
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 2: Reasonable person and watch the jackass drive a reasonable person

1899
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:23,440
Speaker 2: insane because it's good TV, but it doesn't actually accomplish anything,

1900
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 2: you know. I much rather than like, you know, discuss

1901
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 2: the news of it and leave it at that, rather

1902
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 2: than all the Amanda Seals faces up, prices and everything.

1903
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 2: I would still much rather them actually discuss news related

1904
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 2: to this. Then bring these people on just so he

1905
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 2: can say crazy shit and she can go I can't

1906
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 2: believe he's saying this crazy shit.

1907
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 4: Move out of the city.

1908
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 2: So what you want a city full of fucking dudes?

1909
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 2: Is that what New York is supposed.

1910
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:51,599
Speaker 4: To come become?

1911
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 13: You know, you know, it's like saying.

1912
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 2: Well, there was some racism, some racism happens, so all

1913
01:33:58,040 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 2: the black people, why don't you just move?

1914
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 4: No one's made you stay.

1915
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 2: They're just move away from the racism, which basically ends

1916
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 2: up meaning the races are right and they get to

1917
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 2: claim any place that they go because hey, it's not

1918
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 2: comfortable for another citizen in the United States, So fuck

1919
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 2: that citizen.

1920
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 4: Get out right, I get it.

1921
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 13: I live there.

1922
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 8: No one's holding a gun to your head telling you

1923
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 8: have to live in New York City.

1924
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 15: First of all, you know what's funny is that you,

1925
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 15: as a man, what your problem is is that you

1926
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:27,440
Speaker 15: really should.

1927
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 13: Just be embracing and welcoming.

1928
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 2: He goes, you know what my problem is, to start laughing.

1929
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 2: But he's been telling her where her problem is for

1930
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 2: five minutes straight, right, man, explaining like a motherfucker right.

1931
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 15: To the fact that women are saying, hey, we don't

1932
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 15: like this, not arguing why we shouldn't. If we say

1933
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 15: we don't like it and we are demonstrating that.

1934
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 13: Then you should actually, as.

1935
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 15: A man who has a man who is a man

1936
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 15: of honor and wrote a book about this, should be saying, well,

1937
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,559
Speaker 15: let's discuss how we can make you all feel more comfortable.

1938
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 3: And a man.

1939
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 15: Who says that I have a class needs to help

1940
01:34:58,280 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 15: and talk to my brothers.

1941
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 8: About Yes, the video speaks for itself. The type of

1942
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 8: guys that made those comments speak for itself. That's part

1943
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 8: of maybe their culture, part of how they were brought up.

1944
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 8: Maybe they thought this girl, it's the type.

1945
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 13: Of guy thing.

1946
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 10: There's been some criticism that you know, this this has

1947
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 10: been crafted, This video was crafted in a way that omit.

1948
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 2: By the way, I felt like he was dill whistling

1949
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 2: at race on that one. Right, you want to come

1950
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 2: out and say it.

1951
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 3: Right, you basically get him niggers right.

1952
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 10: A pretty good bit of the populace of New York

1953
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 10: City that most of the men in this video are

1954
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 10: black or Latino.

1955
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 13: And then it says another message where and apparel.

1956
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 10: But but you know, Halliback has actually responded to that.

1957
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 10: They did have a statement saying, you know that we

1958
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 10: regret the unintended racial bias and the editing of the

1959
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 10: video and although we appreciate the support, we are committed

1960
01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 10: to showing the complete picture. But Paul Zacher, does it

1961
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 10: show the complete picture? Or does this unnecessarily in conversations

1962
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:00,719
Speaker 10: usually usually in New York.

1963
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 8: City, Listen, I was there in the eighties. I remember

1964
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 8: how it was. It was a lot tougher than it

1965
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 8: is right now. But you have to understand something. Political

1966
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 8: correctness has gone too far. If you don't like it,

1967
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 8: as a woman, turn around, tell him to shut up,

1968
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,560
Speaker 8: stand up for yourself, act like a strong woman, because.

1969
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 15: That doesn't get you killed, right, Because the woman got

1970
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 15: doing that the other day in Detroit. Actually, so you, sir,

1971
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 15: do not know what you're talking exactly.

1972
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 2: And and I like, honestly, yesterday a girl who was

1973
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 2: fourteen was killed. She got cat called on the street,

1974
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 2: didn't respond. The dude got mad run over her with

1975
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 2: his car. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in Florida.

1976
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 4: It's real.

1977
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 2: It's a very real fear. And here's the thing. People

1978
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:46,879
Speaker 2: are gonna go, Well, that doesn't happen every time. Yeah,

1979
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:49,560
Speaker 2: a cop doesn't kill a black man every time he

1980
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,719
Speaker 2: pulls them over, but you get scared every time, right,

1981
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 2: And it's enough And that's enough for me as a man,

1982
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 2: and hopefully police to go. Maybe we should watch how

1983
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 2: we approach these situations. Sometimes we need to.

1984
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 15: Be that a woman got kised that the other day.

1985
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 8: We kill spread versus how many women stand up for themselves.

1986
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 3: I from.

1987
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 2: Like like I said, it's the well, hey, we're not

1988
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 2: killing them all, So I mean, why you worried about

1989
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: you too?

1990
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 3: Ladies? And you still alive.

1991
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 2: It's just like one out every hundred times you can

1992
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 2: get killed. Now, how many times you get kicked out? Well,

1993
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 2: one hundred times every ten hours? Oh oh damn, so

1994
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 2: all the time.

1995
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:43,080
Speaker 15: The conversation should really be about saying, hey, let's find

1996
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 15: a better way to communicate with each other in public,

1997
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 15: not about whether or.

1998
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,600
Speaker 13: Not this is okay.

1999
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 3: I'm one of those guys.

2000
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 8: Hold on, do you think the guys didn't got a

2001
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 8: benefit from your comments from this conversation? Actually watching this

2002
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,520
Speaker 8: show right now, how do you plan on getting these guys.

2003
01:37:58,360 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 13: Haul are back?

2004
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 8: They could care less about haul her back?

2005
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 3: You know what?

2006
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 8: It starts with parenting.

2007
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 7: Parenting.

2008
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 8: Way too many people are having children and not.

2009
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 13: Raising the problem. Oh my gosh.

2010
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 10: Okay, so we're going into a whole lot of different directions.

2011
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 10: I guess we should have booked thirty minutes for this

2012
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 10: segment because, my goodness.

2013
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:17,560
Speaker 4: All right, her row eyes at exactly eight minutes.

2014
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 3: Perfect right, because she was looking like good looks of

2015
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 3: different directions.

2016
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 10: I guess we should have booked thirty minutes for this segment.

2017
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 2: Because, my goodness, all right, oh eight minutes and six seconds,

2018
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:30,600
Speaker 2: the row eyes is perfect.

2019
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 3: Right, and he's at one point.

2020
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 2: At one point, he said they should have guns for

2021
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:37,560
Speaker 2: street harassment.

2022
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 4: It's New York City.

2023
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 2: You can't just have walking around with fucking guns.

2024
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 3: That's actually not how.

2025
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 2: It works, guys. You can't just walk around go I

2026
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 2: have a gun. Now I'm killing people for saying hey

2027
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 2: to me on the street.

2028
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 3: Toughest gun lulls in the nation.

2029
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 4: Dog, Yeah, you can't even have like a taser in

2030
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:56,560
Speaker 4: New York without.

2031
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:59,640
Speaker 3: Just just idiotic.

2032
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 4: Such a fucking idiot man with that. I saw that,

2033
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,879
Speaker 4: and I was just like this, hopefully people.

2034
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 2: Can hear this kind of shit and go, oh, so

2035
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 2: this is how stupid I sound, right.

2036
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 3: Your Twitter and your Facebook post.

2037
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 6: This is somebody verbally saying it out loud, and this

2038
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:15,679
Speaker 6: sounds dumb.

2039
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 3: It's like when you read it the same thing.

2040
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 2: Dumb, right, and you had the nerve to say that

2041
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 2: to two women, Like, just what a fucking idiot?

2042
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 9: Man?

2043
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 2: Right, all right, let's play our games.

2044
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 4: We're just fucking with those black people.

2045
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 3: Were just fucking with those blacks. We're just fucking with

2046
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 3: fucking with black people.

2047
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:42,559
Speaker 4: That's right.

2048
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 2: God's trying to play the game that you all know

2049
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 2: and love and hate.

2050
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 4: Them, know it. It's fucking with black people.

2051
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 2: The game where we score articles from zero two one

2052
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 2: hundred intervals are twenty five for how much we feel

2053
01:39:56,040 --> 01:40:00,479
Speaker 2: fucked with as black people. Today's contestants A lot people.

2054
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it, Karen, give me a

2055
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,480
Speaker 2: number one through about seventeen.

2056
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 16: Maybe let's do thirteen, thirteen, twelve, Oh wait, I think

2057
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 16: we did.

2058
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 4: We already do. Annie Lennox and a Strange Fruit one no,

2059
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 4: which means strange.

2060
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:28,560
Speaker 2: Annie Lennox is a white lady, she's a feminist.

2061
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 4: She sang the song strange Fruit.

2062
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, so forget this one, all right,

2063
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 2: let me go back, hold on, let me see, so

2064
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 2: thirteen is Crystal Wright talks bad about Stacy Dash a

2065
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 2: little black on Black Republican crime.

2066
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 4: If you will that's right.

2067
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 2: Crystal Right is of course known as concel avative black

2068
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,479
Speaker 2: Chick on Twitter GLP black chick.

2069
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 3: Oh that's name.

2070
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2071
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 2: Many people have tried to get us to have her

2072
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 2: on the show for some stupid ass reason, as if

2073
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,640
Speaker 2: they don't know us or the show, right, but uh,

2074
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 2: you know, she basically knocked the knocked at Stacey took

2075
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,799
Speaker 2: a knock at Stacey Dash, Fox News contributor and Republican

2076
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 2: as of twenty twelve, just already, the sassines on ten

2077
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 2: you can tell what that means you, Johnny, come lately, motherfucker.

2078
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 4: I've been shilling for the.

2079
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 2: White man for decades, right, and you want to come

2080
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 2: in here and be a Republican for two years and

2081
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 2: take my spot on TV?

2082
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 3: No life, skin on LFE, skin balance. What's happening?

2083
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,240
Speaker 2: Black actress? Stay, said Dash Prouf. She really wasn't acting

2084
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 2: in the movie Clueless. Apparently. On Fox News is Handy's show,

2085
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 2: Dash called all black people in the Louisiana government freeloaders

2086
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 2: who don't work. Sean Hannity ass Dash has voted for

2087
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 2: Obama ninety five percent of the time, and Obamacare has

2088
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 2: helped has that helped the minority community in Louisiana. No,

2089
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 2: not at all. It still keeps them stuck. They're getting

2090
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 2: money for free. They feel worthless. They're uneducated. I mean,

2091
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 2: as long as you are that way, they can keep

2092
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 2: you under their control.

2093
01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:14,600
Speaker 4: They have a plantation mentality.

2094
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 2: Dash said, as long as they give you this month,

2095
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 2: this much money, you'll stay right there. You don't need

2096
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 2: to know too much because if you do, you might

2097
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 2: start thinking for yourself.

2098
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 4: Well, could she be more of a shill? You know

2099
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 4: what I mean?

2100
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:31,799
Speaker 2: Like, you know she ain't You know, she ain't studying

2101
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 2: the playbook, She ain't looked up no stats, She don't

2102
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 2: know anything. It's just I'm a black person saying the

2103
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 2: dumb ass racist shit that you white people normally say

2104
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 2: that don't know anything about black people, and therefore it's

2105
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:45,200
Speaker 2: okay because hey came out of a black mouth, Like

2106
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 2: did he like pat her head and feet her a

2107
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 2: peanut afterwards? Good job, good job, buddy give I think

2108
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 2: Stacey Dash needs to get out more, perhaps visit Louisiana

2109
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,719
Speaker 2: and the rest of America see that all blacks myself included,

2110
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 2: certainly don't feel worthless under President Barack Obama's administration. Now

2111
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 2: how she's gonna how Christ the Right is gonna manage

2112
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 2: the rest of this article.

2113
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 6: I have no idea, because oh, she'll find a wife,

2114
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 6: she will find I'm.

2115
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 2: Just saying because she has routinely done the black people

2116
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 2: are fucked up and all you know, and and they

2117
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 2: don't know what they're talking about.

2118
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 3: They need to stop playbook.

2119
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, like to me this jealousy that someone took your

2120
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 2: lines right, whether Democratic or Republican. Scores of black people,

2121
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,599
Speaker 2: Oprah Winfrey, Allen West, Condoleeza Rights, Ben Carson Shelby Still,

2122
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 2: Bill Cosey, Robin Roberts, and many many others are highly educated,

2123
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 2: gainfully employed, paying their bills, are frankly doing quite well.

2124
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 4: Dash is one of them, like cause she named all

2125
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 4: the black celebrities.

2126
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 2: Many black people may want Obama to provide more productive policies,

2127
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 2: but to suggest, as Dash does, that blacks are largely

2128
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 2: uneducated and getting money for free is a racist narrative

2129
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 2: that conservatives need to stop perpetuating. That kind of talk

2130
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 2: is an offensive non starter in getting blacks to consider

2131
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 2: voting Republicans. So is the so is an often repeated

2132
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:07,600
Speaker 2: means by some black consertors that blacks have a plantation mentality,

2133
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 2: whether you're white or black, is never cool to invote

2134
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 2: metaphors of slavery, which was a gruesome, painful institution protected

2135
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 2: by Democrats in America and went on way too long.

2136
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 2: Conservati should remind Americans of the history of slavery and

2137
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 2: how the Democratic Party perpetuates policies of paternalism that don't

2138
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 2: benefit blacks. The handity segment was about the Louisiana Senate

2139
01:44:28,439 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 2: race between Democratic incumbent Senator Mary Landrew Landry Lan Drew

2140
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:39,720
Speaker 2: and the Republicans Bill Cassidy and Bob Mannis Dash and

2141
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 2: other gas discuss how blacks and Louisiana have voted for

2142
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 2: land Drew since elected her in nineteen ninety seven, but

2143
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 2: have not benefited from it. Black Republican Derrick Deroy Murdoch

2144
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 2: gave a much more reason commentary on why black people

2145
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:54,600
Speaker 2: need to reconsider their blinder legions to Democrats, referring to

2146
01:44:54,640 --> 01:45:00,080
Speaker 2: an ad place by black Republican Louisiana State Senator Albert Guileroy.

2147
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 4: And focusing on Landrew's records with black record with blacks.

2148
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 2: I think State Senator Gallery has done a tremendous job

2149
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 2: in service by asking that this ad a very basic question.

2150
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 4: What have Democrats done for us lately?

2151
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 2: Black folks show up and vote ninety five percent for Obama,

2152
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 2: ninety five percent for Landrew, and what do you get?

2153
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 2: Eighteen years of poverty under mary Land Drew In Louisiana.

2154
01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 2: Nock Vernock said that under Obama's presidency, black poverty and

2155
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 2: dependence on food stamps has increased and home and ownership

2156
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 2: has declined. Fact based comments such as Murdoch's raised eyebrows

2157
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 2: and invite black voting to Democratic Party to consider voting

2158
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:44,559
Speaker 2: for Republicans. Dasher's comments are assulting and give blacks another

2159
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 2: reason to tune out.

2160
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 4: To GLP and not take our party seriously.

2161
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 6: This is jealousy because this is some of the same

2162
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 6: bullshit that you you up and down the timeline all

2163
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 6: the time.

2164
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 2: Zero to one hundred care I'm not fucked with.

2165
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 4: Oh, you're not fucking with at all? Okay, So zero for.

2166
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 6: Karen No because she had Stacey. Stacey Dadh has shown

2167
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 6: she's an idiot GOP black. Shee trolls people that that's

2168
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:15,320
Speaker 6: just what she does. So I'm like, y'all, just two

2169
01:46:16,160 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 6: black folks just fighting it, don't matter because a lot

2170
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 6: of the people that consider me a niggas couse of

2171
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,839
Speaker 6: y'all niggas too, So you don't really matter to those people.

2172
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 6: And are all those people going to get angry when

2173
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 6: they read this because they're going to turn around and say,

2174
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:31,920
Speaker 6: why you pander into the blacks?

2175
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2176
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna have to give it like a twenty

2177
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 2: five because of how her defense, maybe even more like

2178
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 2: fifty five, fifty or seventy five, because her defense is

2179
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 2: basically like, no, black people are fucked up, but you

2180
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 2: went too far.

2181
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 4: You know, you can't be saying that. You can't. I mean,

2182
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 4: you can imply that slavery.

2183
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:59,040
Speaker 3: She'd be like, girl, you don't know how use co words, right,

2184
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,719
Speaker 3: That's basically what she was saying that, right, right, right.

2185
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 4: She's got to learn the lingos.

2186
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:06,479
Speaker 3: Stupid she was.

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Speaker 6: She was like ship, they didn't show her the playbook.

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01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 6: You can't come out and say it. You have to

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01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 6: work around it so that if anybody tries to call

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Speaker 6: you out on it, you can, honest, you can, you

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01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,560
Speaker 6: can truly say that's not what you said.

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01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:24,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean it's you know, she definitely trades

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01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 2: on race constantly, right, But she just said some offensive

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01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 2: things about black She's called like, she's talking about nonstarters

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01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 2: with black people. You're a person that goes online and

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01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 2: calls Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown thugs and ship like that.

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01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,439
Speaker 4: It talks bad about that family, you know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so y'all come from y'all a cut from the

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01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,800
Speaker 6: same cloth as far as that's concerned. But you're like

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01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 6: smart enough, chick. That's basically what she's saying. You can't

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01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 6: you can't say the niggas and niggas.

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01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 3: You can You got to you got to use other words.

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01:47:57,160 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 6: You gotta say thug, you know, you gotta use you

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01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:01,879
Speaker 6: gotta say ethnic.

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01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 4: Yep.

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01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 2: So it's just and it is also it's just they

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01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:08,680
Speaker 2: never have a plan for what they're gonna do for

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01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 2: black people. It's just Obama's not doing enough for black people.

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01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 2: So what is the GOP gonna do specifically for black people? Well,

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01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 2: we don't see race. What the fuck you? I'm not

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01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 2: gonna help us out either. You just you just don't

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01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 2: want us to vote on Obama.

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01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 3: Right right, because because at the end of the day,

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01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 3: maybe it's just me.

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01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 6: A lot of it is very idiotic because you go, well,

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01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:32,679
Speaker 6: I'm a woman, but even women vote.

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01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 4: I'm a woman voter.

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01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do for me?

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01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 6: Well, we're going to take away your right to abortion.

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01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 6: We're gonna tell you when you know that you can

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01:48:42,240 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 6: they can't have kids.

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01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 3: You know we're gonna do all this.

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01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 6: Why would I vote for you, but come on over

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01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:53,559
Speaker 6: here and vote for us. No strip me about my rights. Uh, but.

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01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna say, yeah, I'm gonna give it fifty.

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01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 4: I still feel fuck with a little bit.

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01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:03,480
Speaker 3: Sorry, they both Troy.

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01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 2: And let's see, let's look at let's do this one.

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01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 2: Ben Stein talking about President Obama.

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01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 1: Right back to the midterms. What's really motivating voters to

2231
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 1: turn out this week? While issues like ebola, terrorism.

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01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:27,880
Speaker 4: Why did that pause? I didn't know what to do that?

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01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,719
Speaker 1: Immigration, Well, they're all dominating media coverage or on Fox

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01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:33,560
Speaker 1: News polls and Leland has showed you this show the

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01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 1: voters say the economy is still the most important issue

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01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 1: facing the country, showing me now to talk about the

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01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 1: state of the economy, midterms, how it all runs together?

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01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:44,560
Speaker 1: Author of How To Really Ruin Your Financial Life and portfolio,

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01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 1: although we suspect he knows nothing about that, Economist Ben

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Speaker 1: Stein always good to see you. Well, listen, handsome ben Stein.

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01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 1: You saw our poll there, Economy top of the list

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01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 1: still for most people because it's their daily lives. I mean,

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01:49:58,080 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 1: putting food on the table and gas in the car?

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01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:02,719
Speaker 1: How does it work for or against Democrats this time around?

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01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 9: Well, with all due respect, I disagree with your poll.

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01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:07,760
Speaker 9: I think I think that's what people are saying is

2247
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 9: their most important issue. I think what the White House

2248
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 9: is doing is trying to racialize all politics, and they're

2249
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 9: especially trying to tell the African American voter that the

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01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 9: GOP is against letting them have a chance.

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01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:24,560
Speaker 2: Why can't you just die, old man? Ah, just die?

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01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 2: You've been boring in my whole life. Now your racist.

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01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 2: You want to rub up on pregnant ladies. You're weirdo,

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01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 2: and now you look crazy.

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01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 4: Look at them?

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01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 2: What's wrong with them having to his fine? Why's his

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01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 2: neck doing that?

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01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 3: Doing something?

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01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 4: Ah?

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01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 2: Obama, this is the only type way you failed me.

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01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 2: I didn't get my death penals?

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01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:50,520
Speaker 4: And how a number one as.

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01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 7: Agree with your poll.

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01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:53,760
Speaker 9: I think I think that's what people are saying is

2265
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:55,960
Speaker 9: their most important issue. I think what the White House

2266
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 9: is doing is trying to racialize all politics, and they're

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01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 9: especially trying to tell the African American voter that the

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01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 9: GOP is against letting him have a chance of a

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01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 9: good life in this economy. And that's just a complete lie.

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01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:11,799
Speaker 9: I watched with fascination, with incredible fascination, all the stories

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01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 9: about how the Democratic politicians we're.

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01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 2: Trying to raise alize that this is the same guy

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01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 2: that said Mike Brown must have gotten all some type

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01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 2: of weed rage that caused him to fight the cops.

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01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 3: Do you not know we choose you out, flows you down?

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01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Okay, especially Hillary are trying to whip up

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01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 9: the African American vote and say, oh, the Republicans have

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01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 9: policies against black people in terms of the economy, but

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01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 9: there are no such policies. The Republicans want of vigorous economy,

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01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 9: same as everyone else. There's that whole idea that the

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01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 9: economy is being used in somebody to oppressed minorities is

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01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:51,560
Speaker 9: just an outrageous lie.

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01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 1: Well, and we've seen with the Senator maryly Andrew in

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01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 1: a tough battle trying to hold under receipt down in Louisiana.

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01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 1: Comments this week talking about how it's not been a

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01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,960
Speaker 1: good environment for African Americans for women in the South.

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01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 3: So I mean that is out there.

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01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:04,559
Speaker 7: It's a complete line.

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01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 9: I mean, the Republicans are every bit in favor of

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01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 9: as much in favor of African Americans having a good life.

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01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 9: I'd say more in favor than the Democrats. The idea

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01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 9: of the Republicans are in some way making life difficult

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01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 9: for black people.

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01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 7: It's just nonsense. It's just absolute nonsense.

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01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:20,680
Speaker 9: I mean, they might as well say the Republicans are

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01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:21,840
Speaker 9: coming down from the moon.

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01:52:21,960 --> 01:52:23,120
Speaker 7: I mean, it's just nonsense.

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01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 1: Well, but what do you say to their claims that

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01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:28,600
Speaker 1: Republicans cut budgets, they cut programs that help minorities, that

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01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 1: help more folks, that they are to blame because they

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01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 1: make things tougher on those who don't have advantages because

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01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 1: of their disadvantage.

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01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 9: The cuts have been absolutely minuscule, absolutely tiny, unbelievably all

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01:52:40,120 --> 01:52:42,440
Speaker 9: and much more important has been the fact that the Republicans,

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01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 9: by by virtue of supporting the policies that stopped the

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01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 9: crash in two thousand and two thousand and nine from

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01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 9: being a great depression, stopped a real economic catastrophe. I mean,

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01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,840
Speaker 9: the Republicans are the ones who saved this economy, not

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01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 9: the ones who ruined this egonomy. As I say, whatever

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01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 9: little tiny cuts they might be made here or there

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01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 9: in welfare programs, and they were tiny, absolutely tiny. Look what,

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01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,320
Speaker 9: by the way, let me back up a second, Shannon,

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01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:09,679
Speaker 9: what are they talking about. More people are on food

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01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 9: stamps than ever, more people are getting welfare than ever.

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01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,599
Speaker 9: What cuts are they talking about? More people are getting

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01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:17,759
Speaker 9: government subsidized healthcare than ever. What cuts are they talking about.

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01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 9: It's all a way to racialize voting in this country.

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01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,799
Speaker 9: This president is the most racist president there has ever

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01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:28,559
Speaker 9: been in America. He is purposely trying to use race

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01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:29,600
Speaker 9: to divide Americans.

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01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 4: Whoa insane?

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01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:41,480
Speaker 3: He's insane.

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01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 4: We have presidents that resided over slavery, Richard Nixon, the

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01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 4: Reagan era.

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01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:51,639
Speaker 3: President.

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01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:57,480
Speaker 2: Barack Obama is the mumblest races president in American history.

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01:53:57,200 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 3: Because he's black.

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01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 4: Bruh oh God.

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01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:06,600
Speaker 9: Anyone who investigates it even a little bit knows it's hogwashed.

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01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 1: Well, you know that the White House presses back vehemently

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01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 1: against those kinds of arguments, of those suggestions that the

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01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 1: President or that eric holder overseeing the you know, the

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01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 1: Justice Department, that they're using race as a way to

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01:54:19,360 --> 01:54:22,639
Speaker 1: motivate or to divide. But you seem like you're pretty

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01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 1: adamant about that.

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01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 7: Well, there's no doubt about him. Mean, Eric Holder.

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01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 9: I'm sure he's a wonderful guy. He sat next to

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01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:28,680
Speaker 9: me on an airplane flight once and he couldn't have

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01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 9: been more friendly. But he is a guy who every

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01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 9: time there's any kind of issue in the law, he says,

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01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 9: it's racism by the white police. The white police are

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01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:40,600
Speaker 9: beating up on the poor black people. Look, that's just nonsense.

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01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 9: And anyway, even if we're true, we don't.

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01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 7: Know that the police are Republicans. The idea that in

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01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:46,160
Speaker 7: some way any.

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01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 2: Kind of Eric Holder has never said the white police

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01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 2: in his fucking life.

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01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 4: Ever, there's never ever.

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01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 2: You know why I know that to be sure without

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01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 2: even having to fact check it, because the world would

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01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:01,520
Speaker 2: go insane if a black man and got on TV

2352
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:06,520
Speaker 2: and literally said the white police are the problem, he

2353
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 2: would go insane.

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01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 4: The world would implode.

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01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 2: It was just like a black hole would just start

2356
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 2: at the center of Eric Holder's chest and suck the

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01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 2: entire world into it, and everything would exit, would just

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01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 2: cease to exist. The fuck is god. I thought he

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01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:28,879
Speaker 2: was smart. He had a game called wind ben Star's Money.

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01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 2: Sure it was anti semitic, but it was his game,

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01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:36,400
Speaker 2: and he was hard to beat. He knew all the answers. Now,

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01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 2: look at this.

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01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 7: Shit, Louck, that's just nonsense.

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01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:41,880
Speaker 9: And anyway, even if we're true, we don't know if

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01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 9: the police are Republicans. The idea that in some way

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01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 9: any kind of incident that happens which victimizes a black

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01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 9: person is a Republican plot, it's just nonsense. I mean,

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01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 9: they might as well say it's a plot by people

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01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 9: from outer space.

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01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 7: It just doesn't hold any water.

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01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 1: GP done a bad job of changing that perception. If

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01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 1: that's how those in the African American figures the community feel,

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01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 1: that's their perception.

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01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 3: They feel targeted.

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01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 9: They're allowed to feel however they want to feel. But

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01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:09,680
Speaker 9: it's basically just an excuse for saying, look, I'm gonna

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01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 9: vote for President Obama because he's he's my own race.

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01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 9: I mean, that's why basically comes down to Obama is

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01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 9: basically said. And they're they're handing out pamphlets mefist. It's

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01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 9: been described a lot in the Wall Street Journal. They're

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01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 9: handing out pamphlets saying, look, the Republicans Canada are targeting President.

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01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 7: Obama because he's black.

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01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 9: You're black, you've got to go out and support him.

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01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 7: That's just nonsense.

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01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 9: The Republicans are the most pro black party there's ever

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01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 9: there's ever been there.

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01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 2: Okay, now he's someone get him his medicine. Now he's

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01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 2: out of his mind. One Republicans out the most pro

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01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 2: black party.

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01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 4: Okay. Two all black.

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01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 2: People just voting for Obama's because he's black. One I

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01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't be. I wouldn't have a problem with that for one.

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01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:49,880
Speaker 2: If that's the only reason you want to get your

2394
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 2: ass up and vote on Tuesdays, that's finally, too white

2395
01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 2: people being voting for white people because they white for

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01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 2: a long ass time.

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01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 4: Colinton how Jesse right?

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01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 6: Like people act like only black people vote for black candidates, right?

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01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 2: And then secondly, I mean I don't know, maybe thirdly

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01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:15,800
Speaker 2: I lost my count, but whatever, I'm at a lot

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01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 2: of black people know exactly what issues they vote about exactly.

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01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:21,560
Speaker 2: You just haven't sat down and talked to any because

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01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 2: you won't accept any reason other than black.

2404
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 4: You should all vote Republican no matter who.

2405
01:57:26,240 --> 01:57:30,320
Speaker 6: You are, right, regardless of if the policies that we're

2406
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 6: putting in place benefits you or not, because here in

2407
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 6: North Carolina they have lost their goddamn minds. They cut

2408
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 6: early voting by week. They you can't vote straight tickets

2409
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 6: no more. You know how before you just straight democratstate

2410
01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:51,120
Speaker 6: public You can't do that anymore. They had actually had

2411
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 6: was trying to chop the hours of early voting, but

2412
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 6: that got shot down. They was actually making it so

2413
01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 6: you would have to use your ID, but that got

2414
01:57:58,200 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 6: shot down.

2415
01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 3: And it's just one of those things where.

2416
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:05,920
Speaker 6: People are going, hey, you're affecting the African American.

2417
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 3: Vote, and they go, fuck it.

2418
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 6: We don't give a damn because as far as we're concerned,

2419
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 6: if we can't win, if we put like this, if

2420
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 6: we can't win, just by our our policies, we'll actually

2421
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 6: make it where less and less people can vote. In fact,

2422
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:28,440
Speaker 6: it actually somewhat we will see after tomorrow, but it's

2423
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:31,640
Speaker 6: actually somewhat backfire because they say they had forty percent

2424
01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 6: increase this year of people that actually voted, because people's like,

2425
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:36,160
Speaker 6: fuck you.

2426
01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 4: Right.

2427
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 9: On passed all the civil rights laws back in the sixties,

2428
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 9: nothing Democrats.

2429
01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, back before they all switch fucking parties, and he

2430
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:51,400
Speaker 2: started the dicycrat how many times we gotta go to this?

2431
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 2: How many times you gotta go through this dog? How

2432
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 2: many times you gotta go through this? The parties have switched,

2433
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:59,880
Speaker 2: They have switched fucking allegiances over race.

2434
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,440
Speaker 4: Race was the thing that switched the fucking parties.

2435
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:05,320
Speaker 2: But you would expect black people not to notice, Like

2436
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 2: we're all supposed to be like.

2437
01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 4: What say word, Like, let me tell you something.

2438
01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:14,240
Speaker 2: We're not voting for what the Republican Party was in

2439
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:17,720
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty five. We're voting against what the Republican Party

2440
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 2: is in twenty fourteen.

2441
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 4: That's what I'm gonna go vote against tomorrow, right, you

2442
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

2443
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 6: And the thing about it is like when you say

2444
01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 6: things like that, you really make it sound like black

2445
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 6: people are stupid.

2446
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:37,400
Speaker 3: Right, the black people that don't vote for us are dumb.

2447
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 6: They're stupid. They really don't know what they want. They

2448
01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:44,440
Speaker 6: are just sheep, you know, they come all jokes said,

2449
01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,120
Speaker 6: what about the white people they blindly vote?

2450
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 4: To y'all, you treat that white people never blindly vote.

2451
01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:56,520
Speaker 2: They never blindly vote according to Republicans, and shit, they

2452
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:59,880
Speaker 2: don't understand the inherent racism of saying black people vote.

2453
01:59:59,880 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 4: But because the president is black.

2454
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, we have always voted Democrat at a ninety percent clip, right.

2455
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 2: They don't understand the inherent racism of saying that, and

2456
02:00:09,240 --> 02:00:12,640
Speaker 2: because it assumes, well, obviously, white people stop, they consider

2457
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 2: their options and then they vote for the person that

2458
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:17,040
Speaker 2: most benefit them and the policies they agree with every

2459
02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:19,520
Speaker 2: fucking time. But if they're a black person, they're just

2460
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:20,440
Speaker 2: voting because he's black.

2461
02:00:21,560 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 4: That's it.

2462
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, and what about black people that didn't vote for Obama.

2463
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 4: This doesn't matter care fuck them.

2464
02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 2: Those people are on the Republican side and they all

2465
02:00:32,120 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 2: are great thinkers. Anybody else is just voting because President

2466
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 2: Obama is black.

2467
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 4: That's it. That's that's the inferiority of the black mind.

2468
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:43,360
Speaker 7: Shakespeare's not the Democrats that gets.

2469
02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:45,400
Speaker 1: Lost in the conversation a lot. All right, Ben signed,

2470
02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:46,760
Speaker 1: We didn't mean to get you worked up, but it's

2471
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:49,320
Speaker 1: always it's good to have you here.

2472
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:52,280
Speaker 2: I hope they get them worked up even more and

2473
02:00:52,280 --> 02:00:54,160
Speaker 2: it gets a fucking heart attack. All right, let's play

2474
02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:58,840
Speaker 2: our next game. One hundred hundred, yeah, hundred goddamn.

2475
02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 4: That is time for some guests. The race, that's right, guest,

2476
02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 4: the race time Now that is time for some guests

2477
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:13,400
Speaker 4: the race. That's right, it's guests the race time.

2478
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:19,640
Speaker 2: That's right, It's time for Guess the Race, the Number.

2479
02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:20,040
Speaker 4: One game show.

2480
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:24,520
Speaker 2: We're all the articles in the internet get put through

2481
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:29,200
Speaker 2: the wringer and we reads them and we ask you

2482
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:32,880
Speaker 2: guys to guess the race of the people involved in

2483
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:37,600
Speaker 2: the articles. The chat room will be the only contested today,

2484
02:01:38,840 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 2: and they are quite racist.

2485
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:47,800
Speaker 4: So let's get to guessing. All right, guys, All right,

2486
02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:51,520
Speaker 4: let's see. Let's do this one.

2487
02:01:52,640 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 2: Grammy nominated. Oh wait, is this doue too famous? Yeah,

2488
02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 2: it might be too famous. Maybe we can't do this.

2489
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 4: Guy, I don't know who, you don't know who it is?

2490
02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 4: All right, well, let's do it.

2491
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:08,240
Speaker 2: Grammy nominated gospel artist Jane's Fortune was recently arrested in

2492
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 2: charge aggravated assault after allegedly striking his wife with a barstool.

2493
02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:18,880
Speaker 3: Goddamn, I bet that's what he said when he hit him.

2494
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:22,600
Speaker 4: He is a gospel artist. That's Blashmi.

2495
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:28,560
Speaker 2: Fortune's wife, Cheryl, is said to have suffered a possible

2496
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:30,480
Speaker 2: fractured leg and pelvis.

2497
02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:30,640
Speaker 4: In the attack.

2498
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:34,640
Speaker 2: They gonna be on the fucking sequel to that HBO

2499
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:35,840
Speaker 2: documentary at this rate.

2500
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:39,040
Speaker 4: I mean that sounds like some shit that's been going

2501
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:39,560
Speaker 4: on for a while.

2502
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:41,440
Speaker 2: You hit somebody that hard and break their leg and

2503
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:46,160
Speaker 2: aint pelvis with a barstool. Sadly, this isn't the first

2504
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 2: time Fortune has been in trouble with the law because

2505
02:02:48,200 --> 02:02:51,040
Speaker 2: of his temper. He was previously sentenced to six years

2506
02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:56,040
Speaker 2: of deferred education adjudication for using scalding hot water to

2507
02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:59,840
Speaker 2: punish its four year old step son. It's not even

2508
02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:06,360
Speaker 2: your son, Attorney Tony Jones, who represents Tony Jones t

2509
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:09,400
Speaker 2: O and I. By the way, Roger Davenport, the biological

2510
02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:12,600
Speaker 2: father of James stepson, is concerned that Fortune's violent tendencies

2511
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,040
Speaker 2: could lead to further tragedy of the counseling. If counseling

2512
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:17,280
Speaker 2: is the sort the most serious thing that could happen,

2513
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:19,560
Speaker 2: and we've seen this happen before, is misfortune or.

2514
02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:21,520
Speaker 4: Those children could end up, dad, said Jones.

2515
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:24,920
Speaker 2: Fortune and his wife have three additional children together had

2516
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:28,480
Speaker 2: to be released on twenty thousand dollars bond. Fortune released

2517
02:03:28,480 --> 02:03:31,560
Speaker 2: the following statement, I'm truly sorry for the decative attention

2518
02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:33,720
Speaker 2: to this situation has brought my wife, family, friends, and

2519
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 2: business partners, because it is depending legal matter. I cannot

2520
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:39,600
Speaker 2: comment on what has been reported. However, I understand the

2521
02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:42,480
Speaker 2: seriousness of this matter and ask that you respect the

2522
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:44,960
Speaker 2: privacy of my family as we address this together. I

2523
02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:47,879
Speaker 2: would also like to thank my fans for that continued

2524
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:50,560
Speaker 2: our poor to love and support. Fortune faces up to

2525
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:54,360
Speaker 2: fifteen years in prison if convicted. Guess the race of

2526
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:56,560
Speaker 2: mister James Fortune?

2527
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:58,240
Speaker 3: Do you really understand?

2528
02:03:58,320 --> 02:03:58,520
Speaker 1: Sir?

2529
02:03:58,680 --> 02:03:59,480
Speaker 3: Do you do?

2530
02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:00,320
Speaker 4: I understand what?

2531
02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:00,640
Speaker 12: No?

2532
02:04:00,760 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 4: He said, Yeah, I.

2533
02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 3: Was actually do he really understand?

2534
02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:06,040
Speaker 2: He was mad at her for buying him a suit

2535
02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:10,320
Speaker 2: with less than eleven buttons? Says black Rob Jesus be

2536
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:14,440
Speaker 2: a fence around his wife. Black, his arms too short?

2537
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:16,720
Speaker 2: The box with God. But luckily that brother had a

2538
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:21,880
Speaker 2: bar stool marriage. Hair grease enthusiasts Black well, well, well,

2539
02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:35,360
Speaker 2: racist people. The correct answer is blacks a bar stool man, Like,

2540
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:38,080
Speaker 2: what is wrong with you? What could have possibly happened

2541
02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:41,880
Speaker 2: to where you need to do? You went roadhouse on

2542
02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:42,440
Speaker 2: your wife?

2543
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:42,680
Speaker 4: Man?

2544
02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:44,760
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, I mean, did you catch your

2545
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:47,240
Speaker 6: drinking and some shit and was like, you know, fucking.

2546
02:04:47,600 --> 02:04:49,680
Speaker 2: Would you walk in? She was doing a Muslim prayer?

2547
02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 2: I mean, what was going on?

2548
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 5: Man?

2549
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:56,960
Speaker 4: Oh?

2550
02:04:57,440 --> 02:04:57,760
Speaker 7: All right?

2551
02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:01,839
Speaker 4: Let's do another guess the race fine listening?

2552
02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:04,480
Speaker 7: Here?

2553
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:04,760
Speaker 8: Is what.

2554
02:05:06,240 --> 02:05:09,560
Speaker 2: A picture of a fourteen month old boy posted on

2555
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:16,560
Speaker 2: Facebook show Spotsylvinia. Uh, the Spotsylvania toddler suspended in the air,

2556
02:05:16,640 --> 02:05:18,480
Speaker 2: hanging by his twisted T shirt.

2557
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:20,920
Speaker 4: The boy.

2558
02:05:22,160 --> 02:05:27,200
Speaker 2: Is hanging from a door, friend crying, obviously uncomfortable. Oh oh,

2559
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:31,880
Speaker 2: so it sounds like another Facebook parenting gunnawry?

2560
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:36,680
Speaker 4: Look how parent my kids? A five point thirty.

2561
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:39,960
Speaker 17: A local mom arrested tonight after this picture of her

2562
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:42,160
Speaker 17: baby is posted on Facebook.

2563
02:05:42,280 --> 02:05:43,840
Speaker 7: Good evening again, I'mrenz.

2564
02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:44,800
Speaker 13: Ohall and I'm Cheryl Miller.

2565
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:47,280
Speaker 1: That picture shocking a number of our viewers after it

2566
02:05:47,320 --> 02:05:48,200
Speaker 1: showed up online.

2567
02:05:48,280 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 17: Yeah, it also immediately caught the attention of police. CBS

2568
02:05:51,320 --> 02:05:53,400
Speaker 17: six is Shelby Brown is live in the studio tonight

2569
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:55,520
Speaker 17: to tell us the story behind it and the charges

2570
02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:56,680
Speaker 17: that mom now faces.

2571
02:05:57,240 --> 02:06:00,680
Speaker 18: Lorenzo and Cheryl. Investigators say the child's mother took the picture.

2572
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:02,880
Speaker 18: They say, when she got into a disagreement with the

2573
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:06,600
Speaker 18: child's father. He posted it on Facebook as retaliation.

2574
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:08,919
Speaker 13: Right away. People alerted police.

2575
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 18: Now investigators and child protective Services in Spotsylvania are involved.

2576
02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:17,400
Speaker 19: We received a lot of a lot of comments on it.

2577
02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:21,320
Speaker 18: People were horrified horrified to see this fourteen month old

2578
02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:24,000
Speaker 18: boy dangling in the air from a doorframe by his

2579
02:06:24,120 --> 02:06:27,880
Speaker 18: twisted t shirt, a picture investigator say was taken between

2580
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:30,280
Speaker 18: September one and tenth by this woman.

2581
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:32,879
Speaker 3: His eighteen year old mom, Alexis Breeden.

2582
02:06:33,240 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 18: First Sergeant James Kanicki, says it came to their attention

2583
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:39,680
Speaker 18: when several people posted it on their Spotsylvania County Sheriff's

2584
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:41,040
Speaker 18: Office Facebook page.

2585
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:46,280
Speaker 19: The baby's father and mother had an argument. In retaliation,

2586
02:06:46,640 --> 02:06:49,120
Speaker 19: the father posted the picture on Facebook to get the

2587
02:06:49,160 --> 02:06:49,840
Speaker 19: mother in trouble.

2588
02:06:50,120 --> 02:06:52,720
Speaker 18: Investigators say the boy's dad was not involved in the

2589
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:56,720
Speaker 18: alleged abuse. People on Facebook blasted this mom and even

2590
02:06:56,760 --> 02:07:00,280
Speaker 18: posted the picture to our CBS six Facebook page asking

2591
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:03,160
Speaker 18: us to find out more. We learned the Sheriff's office

2592
02:07:03,200 --> 02:07:05,640
Speaker 18: issue a warrant for her arrest on a felony child

2593
02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:09,520
Speaker 18: abuse charge. Breden is now in custody. We also pulled

2594
02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:12,560
Speaker 18: court documents that show Breden recently pled guilty to an

2595
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:15,400
Speaker 18: assault and battery charge on a family member in order

2596
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:19,200
Speaker 18: to complete anger management and a mental health evaluation. As

2597
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:22,240
Speaker 18: for this picture, which Breden's own Facebook page refers to

2598
02:07:22,280 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 18: as her just playing around. Not too many followers or

2599
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:28,040
Speaker 18: investigators believe it's a laughing matter.

2600
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:29,200
Speaker 20: It's heartbreaking.

2601
02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:32,600
Speaker 19: You don't ever want to see a child victim. It's

2602
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:34,800
Speaker 19: a little bit harder to handle than it would be

2603
02:07:34,880 --> 02:07:35,839
Speaker 19: if it was an adult.

2604
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:39,160
Speaker 18: We should mention we try to contact Alexis Breeden at

2605
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 18: her home today in Spotsylvania, and no one answered the door.

2606
02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:43,839
Speaker 13: Her little boy is now.

2607
02:07:43,640 --> 02:07:45,440
Speaker 18: In the custody of another relative.

2608
02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:47,560
Speaker 13: Cheryl over here, thank you, Shelby.

2609
02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:48,000
Speaker 4: Wow.

2610
02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 2: Sounded like she was just hanging out with a kid.

2611
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:56,600
Speaker 2: All right, guys, guess the race of Was it an

2612
02:07:56,600 --> 02:08:01,640
Speaker 2: Alexis Breeden? See the chat room and see what they believe.

2613
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:06,640
Speaker 2: I was taken a while, Yeah, sometimes late. Yeah, your

2614
02:08:06,680 --> 02:08:11,400
Speaker 2: cameras down by the way too, But we'll give him

2615
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:11,839
Speaker 2: a second.

2616
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:12,240
Speaker 4: All right.

2617
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 2: The daddy was still involved in the child's life, So white,

2618
02:08:15,280 --> 02:08:18,880
Speaker 2: says the black rob defending Lena Dunno's baby treatment techniques, too,

2619
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:24,320
Speaker 2: says eight c ah.

2620
02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:27,040
Speaker 4: It looks like we're not getting a lot of guesses.

2621
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:30,720
Speaker 2: Well, it is late, white, says Joe Space of the

2622
02:08:30,720 --> 02:08:45,080
Speaker 2: correct answer is white, All right, No, no bonus round tonight. Man,

2623
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 2: it is late and the guesses are coming in pretty slow.

2624
02:08:48,440 --> 02:08:51,919
Speaker 2: So uh, let's just go straight to the soord ratchiness.

2625
02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:54,280
Speaker 2: Where is my sowred ratchingess?

2626
02:08:54,320 --> 02:09:16,560
Speaker 4: Sound effect? He dead, y'all?

2627
02:09:16,760 --> 02:09:17,640
Speaker 3: He is dead.

2628
02:09:17,960 --> 02:09:23,000
Speaker 2: A Naples man was charged with using a Halloween costume

2629
02:09:23,080 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 2: sword as a weapon. Oh oh, and the four stories

2630
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:30,400
Speaker 2: only available to subscribers.

2631
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:32,280
Speaker 4: So fuck this this.

2632
02:09:32,160 --> 02:09:37,960
Speaker 3: One next, right, No, I would not pay.

2633
02:09:39,280 --> 02:09:43,920
Speaker 4: Let's see here's a let's let's do this one. Oklahoma

2634
02:09:44,840 --> 02:09:51,920
Speaker 4: A sore slang shocks Oklahoma. Uh is this the news article?

2635
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 4: Just eclip it this.

2636
02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:55,640
Speaker 21: This is a photo of yours sent us taking Wednesday

2637
02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:59,640
Speaker 21: afternoon in western Stillwater along Highway fifty one. It shows

2638
02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:03,760
Speaker 21: twenty y one year old Isaiah Zoar Maren walking with

2639
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:06,680
Speaker 21: what appears to be a sword. Police say that's when

2640
02:10:06,720 --> 02:10:10,000
Speaker 21: Maren called nine to one one himself to admit he

2641
02:10:10,120 --> 02:10:14,200
Speaker 21: killed an acquaintance, nineteen year old Jacob Andrew Crockett, at

2642
02:10:14,200 --> 02:10:18,200
Speaker 21: this apartment on South Oakdale. Police found Crockett's body here,

2643
02:10:18,760 --> 02:10:19,680
Speaker 21: nearly beheaded.

2644
02:10:19,760 --> 02:10:20,360
Speaker 7: His head was.

2645
02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:25,160
Speaker 20: Almost entirely severed from his body, and there's substantial wounds

2646
02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:28,320
Speaker 20: to the body consistent with the weapon re recovered.

2647
02:10:28,320 --> 02:10:31,960
Speaker 21: Stillwater Captain Randy Dickerson said there is no religious motive

2648
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:34,960
Speaker 21: for the murder right now, but in the arrest affidavit,

2649
02:10:35,240 --> 02:10:38,440
Speaker 21: the victim's brother called Maren a heavy drug user and

2650
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:43,760
Speaker 21: religious zealot. Maren's own brother himself told police the victim

2651
02:10:43,760 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 21: and suspect had disagreements because Jacob and his brother were

2652
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:52,879
Speaker 21: quote practicing witchcraft and Isaiah had strong Christian beliefs. Maren's

2653
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:56,640
Speaker 21: Facebook page shows he wrote about having a Mortal Kombat dream,

2654
02:10:57,080 --> 02:10:59,800
Speaker 21: he watched the fictional show Heroes and said God a

2655
02:10:59,840 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 21: love of the ninja sword guy. He also posted quote

2656
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:05,960
Speaker 21: I love God. No one can stop me, no one,

2657
02:11:06,360 --> 02:11:08,720
Speaker 21: and wrote praise Jesus repeatedly.

2658
02:11:09,160 --> 02:11:12,120
Speaker 20: The other people that he expressed to us that he

2659
02:11:12,160 --> 02:11:18,080
Speaker 20: had had interest in murdering are fine, and we're other

2660
02:11:18,120 --> 02:11:19,160
Speaker 20: people that were known to him.

2661
02:11:20,080 --> 02:11:23,120
Speaker 2: By the way, the I Love God Facebook update was

2662
02:11:23,240 --> 02:11:26,840
Speaker 2: all caps. I mean, guys, come here, That's when you

2663
02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:30,920
Speaker 2: know you're crazy. Come on, guys, come on, take cablock off.

2664
02:11:31,000 --> 02:11:33,440
Speaker 2: That's why I say you can't laugh about this sword

2665
02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:36,760
Speaker 2: shit too much, because these motherfuckers are are on Twitter

2666
02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:38,320
Speaker 2: telling us every day they want to kill us with

2667
02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:39,040
Speaker 2: swords and shit.

2668
02:11:39,160 --> 02:11:42,360
Speaker 4: We Oh, isn't that cute? Oh they love swords.

2669
02:11:42,640 --> 02:11:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, until they decapitating you in your parking lot of

2670
02:11:44,920 --> 02:11:47,200
Speaker 2: your apartment building when you just had a civil discussion

2671
02:11:47,480 --> 02:11:51,560
Speaker 2: about how you think witchcraft is funny, and they go, well,

2672
02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:53,600
Speaker 2: almost Jesus freak. So now I got to kill you,

2673
02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:55,920
Speaker 2: because that's what Jesus would want. I never read the

2674
02:11:55,960 --> 02:12:00,920
Speaker 2: New Testament. Wait a minute, our Old Testament. All right, guys,

2675
02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:05,000
Speaker 2: we'll be back tomorrow for daywalking five pm, he said,

2676
02:12:05,080 --> 02:12:11,400
Speaker 2: standard time with my man Jay Trisnan, hopefully. And that's

2677
02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:13,440
Speaker 2: the only guess I think we have tomorrow. So we'll

2678
02:12:13,480 --> 02:12:16,200
Speaker 2: see you guys tomorrow. I can't wait to chat it

2679
02:12:16,280 --> 02:12:19,240
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Speaker 4: I love you, ah,