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Speaker 1: Welcome back to winter. I guess I'm welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to One Goes Live. I'm John Murphy coming to

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Speaker 1: you from my home. Steve Taskers at his home. Our

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Speaker 1: producer Jay Harrison his home. We're radio only again. Good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: everybody can afternoon to you, Steve. How are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Murf's good to see you again. I

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Speaker 1: was not the optimal day. The five President's tech Sloop

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Speaker 1: was acting up this morning when it started snowing here

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Speaker 1: we're not happy campus this morning. They're whining. Listen. I

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Speaker 1: love Buffalo with all my heart, but this weather's unacceptable.

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Speaker 1: It snowed overnight, as it did over most of West

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Speaker 1: it was actually early this morning, right. Did it started

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Speaker 1: didn't start that. Yeah. I got up in seventh thirty.

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Speaker 1: It was snowing by seventh thirty. Yeah, it started about then. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like snowballs. Those flakes were so big. It was like

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Speaker 1: something you don't even see in December here. But it

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Speaker 1: stopped now and now my gras, my grass was covered.

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Speaker 1: Now it's not. It's started. It's one of those things

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Speaker 1: so that that's some something look forward to. Easter Sunday,

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Speaker 1: sixty one degrees. That's why it should be, by the way,

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Speaker 1: hats right, so it should be yeah, spring cut um,

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Speaker 1: So that's why we got for weather. Just a really

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Speaker 1: wet day, a little bit of sun breaking out. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm at home in Archard Park, Steves down the road

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Speaker 1: in East Aura, and we're here to do the show

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Speaker 1: radio only for another three hours. We got a jamp

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Speaker 1: that show. Before we get to it, we should mention

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Speaker 1: that this is our last show of the week. No

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Speaker 1: show Tomorrow, Friday, Good Friday, no show Monday, Easter Monday,

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Speaker 1: and those holidays were in place before the blank hit

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Speaker 1: the fan, before everybody went crazy about a month ago.

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Speaker 1: So this is our last show of the week, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss doing the show, even on a good Friday.

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Speaker 1: I mean, normally, Steve, we'd be like, whoa, we're out

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Speaker 1: if we don't have a show to do. We've been

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Speaker 1: fortunate in that regard, right am I speaking for my

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Speaker 1: but at least we got the show to do. Listen it.

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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. Let me just back

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Speaker 1: to basics here in our in our curtain situation, everybody

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Speaker 1: And if you're having to manufacture it, you're in a

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Speaker 1: bad place. And I'm thinking tomorrow I might have to

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Speaker 1: manufactur it. Yeah, we're not doing the show. No show tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: no show Monday. But that's okay. We'll take those days tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it is your birthday, Steve Um, Happy birthday.

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Speaker 1: We won't get a chance to say that on the

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Speaker 1: air tomorrow. What are you gonna be? Fifty seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighteen, now, how you feel you're at? That's how much.

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Speaker 1: telling you seriously, Okay, I got I've been I got it.

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Speaker 1: I got it better than most people. I have to

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Speaker 1: and Jay my buddies. You know, we hung out three

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the playoff game, Steve. That was close.

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Speaker 1: I think Murph's off Yeah, Murph's off line right now.

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Speaker 1: Murphy on One Bill's Live. We're practice broadcasting from our

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Speaker 1: Jay Harris is kind of keeping us on. You're back

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Speaker 1: with me, right Murphy? And can you hear me now? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: kind of get the feeling. Maybe there's more people, we think,

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Speaker 1: but to hear from somebody who's had it, we can

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00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,359
Speaker 1: finally hear from him, because now up until now, everybody's

427
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Speaker 1: has hat has still got it, you know, so now

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Speaker 1: we're kind of fin trying to hear from people who

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Speaker 1: have had it and how it went for him so

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Speaker 1: we can get our minds around it. Hey, we've talked

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Speaker 1: to a number of people this week and in the

432
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 1: last last couple of weeks about when this all comes

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Speaker 1: to an end, and should there be NFL football? Will

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Speaker 1: there be football coming up this fall? And a couple

435
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 1: of people sent around the story from the Los Angeles Times. Today,

436
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: authorities in California worn that California will not be getting

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00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: back to normal anytime soon. The public should realize that

438
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: coronavirus cases likely to rise when staying home orders are lifted.

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Speaker 1: There's this guy's name Smith. Who is he Jeffrey Smith,

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Speaker 1: Santa Clara County executive officer, who he's an official in California.

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Speaker 1: So I guess you'll listen to what he said. But

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00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 1: his quote they got my attention. I think got a

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Speaker 1: lot of attention. He told the board of supervisors in

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Speaker 1: his county that quote, any sports games until at least Thanksgiving,

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00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: and we'd be lucky to have them by Thanksgiving. That

446
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 1: is not something that's going to be easy to do.

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Speaker 1: He does not expect there to be any sports games

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Speaker 1: until Thanksgiving. I have to say one of the first

449
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Speaker 1: things I read today that set me back a little bit.

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Speaker 1: See if that's a long time, it sure is. I'd

451
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Speaker 1: be interested to know what he thinks it will look like.

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00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: Will it look like normal atletic events or will it be,

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Speaker 1: you know, like we've been hearing about all these pseudo

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00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: plans for you know, no fans or you know, teams

455
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 1: sequestered beforehand or whatever. I don't know. Nobody knows. And

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Speaker 1: even this guy, the of the Santa Clara County Board

457
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: of Commissioners, he doesn't know. His speculation is he doesn't

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Speaker 1: see sports games in California till Thanksgiving. But I think

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Speaker 1: that's indicative of the thinking out there that some people

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Speaker 1: say this is not happening quickly. Don't get your hopes up. Well, Murph,

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Speaker 1: let me just say this. All these predictions about when

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Speaker 1: is going to start again, they have all the credibility

463
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Speaker 1: of a mock draft. So well, maybe quait and see

464
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,680
Speaker 1: maybe this guy a civic official in California with his opinion,

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Speaker 1: his opinion only this. Also, Jalen Ramsey hosted an Instagram

466
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Speaker 1: what I don't know what you do Instagram live video

467
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Speaker 1: last night. Included was Bill's cornerback t Davious White. They

468
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: went back and forth to Davious White was not included

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Speaker 1: on the graphic that promote to the thing, and Ramsey

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Speaker 1: was teasing for Davis about that and to Davis said

471
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Speaker 1: the NFL they don't respect me, man, they don't respect me.

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Speaker 1: It's cool. And then Ramsey got talking about how the

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Speaker 1: NFL doesn't give him the recognition he deserves because of

474
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Speaker 1: where he plays. Ramsey says, if he didn't play in Buffalo,

475
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: maybe you get the recognition you deserve. You gotta move

476
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Speaker 1: out of there. Jalen Ramsey said, I gotta I gotta

477
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Speaker 1: get I did the same thing rather for I did

478
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Speaker 1: the same thing for Stephan Gilmour. Right, we'll talk about

479
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: that a little bit today, but well, let's get right

480
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Speaker 1: to it. The Twitter poll do Bills players do they

481
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: not get the recognition they deserve or earn because of

482
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 1: the small market team they play on? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight h three five fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: seventy three pursuit. Percent of you in the early Twitter

486
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Speaker 1: poll say that's true. You play in Buffalo, small market team,

487
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: you don't get the recognition you deserve. Twenty seven percent

488
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: say false, that's not how it works. What do you think,

489
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Speaker 1: Steve Oh, I think it's true. Here's the thing as well, though,

490
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Speaker 1: your team has to have some success. When you get

491
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Speaker 1: success or When your team gets success, the guys who

492
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: are making it happen get credit for it. You know

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Speaker 1: that when But here's another thing, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I if this makes sense at all. You have

495
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Speaker 1: to be dependent, dependably successful year to year. For instance,

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Speaker 1: you have to be successful last year, you have to

497
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: be successful this year. You have to be successful the

498
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: next year, and then you may You can play anywhere

499
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: you want and you're gonna get noticed. Green Bay Aaron Rodgers,

500
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: perfect example. Drew Brees in New Orleans, perfect example. These

501
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: teams and players who play in smaller market places. When

502
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: you win and win consistently and do it year to year,

503
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: and you start having your name and your team thrown

504
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: back up in front of the public's eyes all the time,

505
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what market you play, and what matters

506
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: is success, and when you have success, that's what gets

507
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: it for you. Yeah, we got responses on the Twitter

508
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Speaker 1: phole that we're going to read in a second, But

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that's true. Is a

510
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: blanket statement. I don't think because you playing in Buffalo,

511
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that means you don't get the recognition

512
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: you've earned. I think if you win and play in Buffalo,

513
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: and you you are on national TV and get that

514
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: kind of exposure, you will get recognition. And even twenty

515
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: five years ago, Steve, that was a case for your

516
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: Super Bowl teams, right they're playing Pro Bowl players on

517
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: your teams. And now there are several Hall of famers

518
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: who've got the recognition they deserve because because they want,

519
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: not because they weren't. Hell back, I don't think because

520
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: they played in Buffalo. I think here's what I the

521
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: way I see at Murph And here's the reverse part

522
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: of this that maybe gives the impression that this is true,

523
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: but doesn't make it true. The fact that you see

524
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: other players, like say in New York or Chicago or Philly, Dallas, Washington,

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00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: the teams in big markets, one of their players, you know,

526
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: catches a pass and all of a sudden he's the

527
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: best things and slice bread because their bet fan base

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00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: is so like Dallas. You know, one of those a

529
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: player from a team of that nature with a market

530
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: of that nature, who gets you know, primetime games, gets

531
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: a couple of guys to talk about them. I think

532
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: one of the effects is that, yeah, those guys get

533
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: talked about, and the perception is that they're really really good,

534
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: where if you look at their numbers and their production,

535
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: they're not even in the conversation with some of the

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00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: guys who do it better at their position. But because

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00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: they're on a team of that nature, they get more attention,

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00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: or at least that you're perceived that they get more attention.

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00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't think the reverse is true, the fact that

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00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: you're not on one of those teams, because I think

541
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: inside the football world those guys get all the respect

542
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: and admiration they deserve, but that doesn't mean you're always

543
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: going to get a headline in the newspaper. So I

544
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: don't think. I think once the truth, you know where

545
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: big market guys do get a little extra bump because

546
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: of their maybe high profile teams and markets and primetime

547
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: games and such, but that doesn't mean they get the

548
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: respect from the football world that guys from small markets do. Yeah,

549
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: we'll read some of your responses on Twitter. We'll take

550
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: some phone calls as the afternoon moves along. Give us

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00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: a call eight oh three five fifty toll free from

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00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: We're just getting started here. One goes live. Got Clark

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00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: Judge coming up next. He's a writer host for Talk

555
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: of Fame Network. He's got some thoughts on the NFL's

556
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: All Decade team for the twenty tens. The team announced

557
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: the other day. Clark Judge. When we return, stick Around

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00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: one goes live presented by Callaida Health Radio only today,

559
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio. He does live presented by

560
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Kalida Health. Coming on the radio only today. We're at home.

561
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm at home, Steves at home. Our producer Jay Harris

562
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: at home on the line with us now, writer host

563
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: of Talk of Fame Network online, and they contributed to

564
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated dot com. Clark Judge joins us. Hello Clark,

565
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve tas rector in Buffalo. Thanks, coming on.

566
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: Hey guys, how are you. We're doing well. How are

567
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: you doing? You and your family doing you getting through

568
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: all this? Yeah, we're getting through it. We live on

569
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: sort of a farm here in Connecticut, so it's pretty

570
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: easy for us. We're in a rural area. We don't

571
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: have to go out much, so we just sort of

572
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: take care of the area and take care of our

573
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: buildings and that's about it. Rarely venture out. It sounds perfect.

574
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: You with a couple of partners around Borges and Rick

575
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: Goslind deal with the Talk of Thing network, and you

576
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: had an interesting post. It came out the other day

577
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: the NFL's Team of the Decade, the Team of the

578
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: twenty tens, and a subsequent post where you pointed out

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00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: one of the flaws in the system they did not

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00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: differentiate between first teamers and second teamers. Why is an

581
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: important clark, Well, it is for the Hall of Fame

582
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: Board of Selectors because first Team All Decade and second

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00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: Team All Decade really resonate with the voters, and he

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00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: gives this a means of deciding or determining who's better

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00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: in terms of that decade. And I'm talking about just

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00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: another way of another factor that that has involved. And

587
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear Steve way In and this as well,

588
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: because when you look at you know, when they have,

589
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: for instance, this list right here, it just says linebackers,

590
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: six linebackers. In nineteen eighties and nineteen eighties All Decade team,

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00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: they had the linebackers six linebackers, but they were divided

592
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: into first and second teams and on that first team

593
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: was LT on the second team was somebody like, and

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00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: I'll mention John Anderson. John Anderson was there. He got

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00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: one vote, LT got you know, I think all but one.

596
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: Maybe he was nanems. But so if you throw them

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00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: all in the same boat and just say forget it,

598
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: we're not going to do that because of the eighties

599
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: they did just determine not only first and second team,

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00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: but the number of votes each got. But if you

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00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: say we're not going to have any of that, they're

602
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: just all in the same pool. You're looking at that.

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00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about voters maybe ten years from now,

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00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: who look and go, Okay, maybe I didn't see this guy,

605
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: but I see that they're all, you know, all decade linebackers.

606
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: They almost be of the same ilk. Now you got

607
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: to dig a little deeper. Some people don't do that,

608
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: but I think what it's done is it's sort of

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00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: cheap in the process because that used to be a distinction.

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00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: I know Steve understands it to be first team all decade.

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00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: If you're a special team at first team all decade,

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00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: that means something. And in twenty seventeen, Morton Anderson was

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00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: a special teamer who came up for discussion because he

614
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: was a finalist, and it was a spirited discussion. But

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00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: the thing that honestly swung the vote was we said,

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00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: wait a minute, he was First Team all decade, not

617
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: just for one decade, for two decades. So if he

618
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: was at the best of his position for two straight decades,

619
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Speaker 1: twenty straight years, how can we keep this guy out?

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Speaker 1: I mean, how gets possible to keep him out? And

621
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: I know Steve knows the answer to this because we

622
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: don't for whatever reason, we have a blind eye towards

623
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: special teamers. But so he did get it. He did

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00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: get it, and it made a difference. But I guess

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00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's just another factor that goes

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Speaker 1: into determining who sort of advances a little bit further

627
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: and who doesn't. It's just another way of evaluating players. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting too, because you do it is easy to

629
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: mark it out between two thousand and eleven and two

630
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty or two thousand ten and two nineteen,

631
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: whichever the ten years. How do you how's it? You

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00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: know that maybe a guy begins playing in in you know,

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00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: two thousand age or two thousand and five and ends

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00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 1: in two thousand and fifteen and has a tremendous career,

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00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: but is halved by the change in the decade. I mean,

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00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: that's a that's kind of an unfortunate problem for some

637
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: of the guys just because of when they were born. Absolutely,

638
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: that's a good point, Stephen, And we saw that this

639
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: year with Isaac Bruce. Isaac Bruce was not a first

640
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: team all decade. He wasn't second team all decade. He

641
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: wasn't all decade at all, because he sort of swung

642
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: in the middle there. John Lynch is the same thing,

643
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: but Isaac Bruce wasn't in there, so we had to

644
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: sort of overcome some of that. And with John Lynch,

645
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: that's always an issue. And if you look at John Lynch,

646
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: it's it's or others of what you just mentioned right there.

647
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: They come in maybe at the middle, and I think

648
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: John came out I'm gonna Shrew was ninety five, ninety six, whatever,

649
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: and then last He did last a long time in

650
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: the twenty first century, but I think people looked at

651
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: him as well as best years were with Tampa and

652
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: that was at the end of the nineteen nineties and

653
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: the beginnings of the two thousand. But where do we

654
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: put him there? And I didn't vote on that team,

655
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: but he wasn't voted to it, so that does become

656
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: an issue. And honestly, John Turney, if Pro Football Journal

657
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: does and All Mid Decade team, which I think is

658
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: pretty good because he says, Okay, let's take care of

659
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: these guys who are of that ILK that you mentioned,

660
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: who come in the middle of a decade, maybe finished

661
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: the middle of the next decade. And it becomes an

662
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: issue because we have someone like Tyree Hill, if you

663
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: notes was on this list. He's played what the last

664
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: three years, and so he's on an All decade team.

665
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: And I looked down, whoa, because I'll be honest with you,

666
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: he didn't get my vote, and I know his first

667
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: team and I think he was first team pump returner. Well,

668
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: my first team pumpt returner was Devin Ester. I mean,

669
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: I look at Devon Esther and d what six be

670
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: career pump returns or fifteen or I think it was

671
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: sixteen career punt returns and for touchdowns? And I looked

672
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: at that went WHOA. But here's somebody at the very

673
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: end of the decade. And what it tells you, And

674
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: again Steve knows this, I think as well as anyone.

675
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: There is a feeling, as I get older and I

676
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: begin to sound like my father, that the latest is

677
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: the greatest. All we care about is the latest, And

678
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: so you can add some people. Honestly, you could add

679
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: some people, and no disrespect to Steve or anyone in

680
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: that room, but some people in that room saying Steve Tasman,

681
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: they go, who you go? You gotta be kidding me.

682
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: How can you be in here without knowing who he is?

683
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: How about Kent Hall, who I don't and drives you crazy.

684
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: But that's why Rick and Ron and I are doing

685
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: this to try to keep those names alive. It's just

686
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: astonishing to me when I talk to people, and I'm

687
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: older than I think both of you guys have. Some

688
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: of the guys that saw my career is old enough

689
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: to see United. I certainly didn't cover him, but I

690
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: was old enough to watch him and see some of

691
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks of the late fifties, sixties, certainly in the seventies,

692
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: and to hear people talk about Roger Stauback, for instance,

693
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: and Roger Stauback to me, is one of the great

694
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: greatest underrated players and quarterbacks of all time. What he

695
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: did in a limited time was astonishing. You have people

696
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: when they put together these lists, they don't even acknowledge him.

697
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: And I saw a list that I think Mike Florio

698
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: and Chris Simms put together earliest year of the ten

699
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks of all time. On one of them, United,

700
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: I think was nine and Graham was ten. And on

701
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: another one I don't think Graham made it. I would

702
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: to Graham with the ten championship games and won seven

703
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: of them. I mean, that's the sort of stuff that

704
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: drives me crazy. But anyways, I'm getting way off the

705
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: seventy and thest of Talking Fame Network. Hey Clark, you

706
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: brought it up. It's kind of the elephant in the room.

707
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: But I'll ask it because Steve won't. How does Steve

708
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: Tasker not even make it to the the final round

709
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: of discussion at the Hall of Fame Actors meeting? You

710
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: know there? Is it truly a blind guy towards special teamers,

711
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: as you mentioned a minute or two ago. Yeah, I'm

712
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: gonna give you my opinion, not speaking to the rest

713
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: of the room, and I'd say absolutely. I'd say absolutely.

714
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we had to fight our way to get

715
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Morton Anderson in there. And Morton Anderson at the time

716
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: was the leading score of all time, and our point was,

717
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: wait a second, I mean, you know, the leading score

718
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: of all time in baseball, most runs produced, he's in

719
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame in basketball, he's in the Hall

720
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: of Fame. And he's in the Hall of Fame. What

721
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: are we doing here? And there is a pushback from

722
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: people say, well, you know he's on the field for

723
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: what's you know, six plays a game? Five plays? Again,

724
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: the same thing with punters. I mean, we had to

725
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: fight with Ray Guy. And I know you guys know

726
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: all about Ray Guy, but I mean I said when

727
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: I got on the spoort, if I do nothing else,

728
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: I just want to be there when Ray Guy gets elected.

729
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: And that's me as an achievement. But it was a

730
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: fight to get Ray Guy. And I think it was

731
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: on his eighth or ninth time as a finalist. And

732
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: to me, I looked at Ray Guy went he's he's

733
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: the best of every seen the death position. To me,

734
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: he was the greatest punter of all time. So he

735
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: measured everyone against Ray Guy. But there was a pushback

736
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: from other writers and broadcasters whatever who were in that

737
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: room earlier and in other decades, and it really resonated

738
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: until finally we got him in and I don't know

739
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: what it was, two thirteen, fourteen, something like that, but

740
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: it was way too late and and I just didn't

741
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: get it. In the same thing with Morton, But certainly

742
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: a guy like Steve belongs in. UM, I would say,

743
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: we look at Brian Mitchell. Brian Mitchell has never been

744
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: a final steal. Why not? And the answer is, honestly,

745
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: I think it's just we just don't look at them

746
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: the same way as we do others. And frankly, and

747
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: I'm going along in this, but frankly, there are some

748
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: positions we don't garden center two others we put in

749
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: two centers in the last twenty one years and guards.

750
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: Who've got a guy like Alan Fanaka right now who's

751
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: been waiting five years, and he was all he was

752
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: all decade first team. UM. He was when they were

753
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: announcing first teams, he was all thinking first team. He

754
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: was a nine time Pro Bowler, he was eight time

755
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: All Pro, he was a Super Bowl winner. What are

756
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: we missing here? He played another position he'd already be in.

757
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: So anyway, that said, yeah, I got to ask you

758
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: to Clark one of the things, and I can certainly

759
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: understand where the voters it's difficult because all of us

760
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: are prisoners to only what our eyes have seen, well,

761
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: only what we've experienced we can and everything else. You

762
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: feel almost guilty or like you're shirking your responsibilities when

763
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: you take other people's word for how great an athlete was,

764
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: even if it was, you know, if it was in

765
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: a bygone era. So I think, you know, the further

766
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: you get into the future, the past becomes something that

767
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: nobody has seen, and therefore they really don't want to

768
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: vote somebody in who's unworthy, just and particularly when they

769
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: have not seen him play with their own eyes. I

770
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: think it's just a function of any time you take

771
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: a vote, and that's why, you know, with this All

772
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: Decade Team, you know, the fun a part about it

773
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: for most fans is debating like not only who got in,

774
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: but who got left out? Like Murphy Loves you know,

775
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 1: talking about me not getting in the Hall of Fame.

776
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: But I think about guys like Drew Brees, who's you know,

777
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: he's thrown for more five thousand yards seasons and is

778
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: he on the All Decade Team? No? No, if they're

779
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: on roads said Tom Burr, I mean, how does that happen?

780
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: I think that's it's a matter of choice. I didn't

781
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: see that, you know, I haven't seen the tabulations, and

782
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: I assume the NFL's got them, and but they're the

783
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: only ones that saw them at some point. I'd like

784
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: to see what they are. I would assume that was

785
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: a close vote. I just don't know. Um. But I

786
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: will say also, just in going one step farther in

787
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: terms of Steve your case, one of the things that's

788
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: very difficult with your cases, we don't have measurables. You know,

789
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: one someone says he was indispensable. I watched you play.

790
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 1: I know what you were a weapon for the Bills.

791
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: But someone's wow, you know, like what's his completion percentage?

792
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: How many catches do you have? What was his yards percy?

793
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: And you can measure those with people at the skill positions,

794
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: and for somebody like you, it's difficult. And I think

795
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: that's compounded by the fact that you play special teams

796
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: where we don't really um, we don't for whatever reason,

797
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: we don't seem to vote them in as reddle as

798
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: we should. But but your your question about Brees, it's

799
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: a valid question. Um, The only thing I would say is,

800
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: and I know it's just splitting hairs. That's all it

801
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: is, is is splitting hairs. Aaron Rodgers won a super Bowl

802
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: in this decade, Drew Brees did, and Drew Brees one

803
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine. Okay, so I've missed by

804
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: one year. To me, it's very it's very close. I

805
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: think it's six to one. Half does than another. I'd

806
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: honestly be I think it'll all must be a coin

807
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: flip between the two. So I wasn't sure how that

808
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: come out, but I guess that was probably the most

809
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: hotly contested position with writer host Clark judge of the

810
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: Taker Feam. Never let me switch gears on you a

811
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: little bit, Clark and ask you a question about where

812
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: the NFL is today and the coronavirus and the impact

813
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: of what's going on. I'm not looking for a prediction

814
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: on what might happen, but how do you think the

815
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: NFL has reacted to the demands put on it and

816
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: the limitations put on it so far? With a you know,

817
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: still the season upcoming? Did they luck out having it

818
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: hit in the offseason as it did? Well? I mean

819
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: in terms of the draft. I'm a little bit, to

820
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: be honest, they'll be very contented. I'm frankly disappointed that

821
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: they're continuing to have the draft as is, because it's

822
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: almost as if they're pretending to if there's really nothing

823
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: different here, we're going to go on as is. And

824
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: I understand you can do that. I realize that. I

825
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: understand the other side of the argument. It gives people

826
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: something to look forward to if they can do it electronically.

827
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: Why not, because business is being done electronically all over

828
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: the world right now that we really aren't privy to.

829
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: But with this, this is something we really look forward

830
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: to and something that we would certainly watch if and

831
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: when it's help. But I think the optics are really bad.

832
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at Wimbledon. Is Let's played in

833
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: early July. They've canceled it. They haven't postponed it, they've

834
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: canceled it. The British Open, they've canceled it. They've moved

835
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: to the Kentucky Derby back. I mean, everyone's moved back

836
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: except for the NFL Draft. I mean, like, what part

837
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: of this is the mission? Guys of people dying everywhere

838
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: and especially in New York City for goodness sakes, and

839
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: that's where the NFL headquarters is. So from the optics,

840
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: it just sounds to me, it just looks to me

841
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: like their tone deaf. And as I said, I understand

842
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: the other side of the argument. That's just my opinion.

843
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: But I think then you've got sort of built in

844
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: questions now that we've moved forward with this. And I

845
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: think John Harbor raised a raise, a valid one when

846
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: he's talked about, you know, the virtual draft getting hacked.

847
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a valid question. I mean, if we're

848
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: hacking presidential elections, do you think they can hack NFL drafts? Well,

849
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: of course they can. And then it seems like everything

850
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: to be hacked today. So I know they're going to

851
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: run a mock draft to try to iron that stuff out,

852
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: but doesn't mean it can't happen. And then you know

853
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: these concerns about IT people coming in. I spoke to

854
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: someone with the league a couple of days ago mentioned

855
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: that to me, and he goes, there's some guys here

856
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: are nervous about this because the IT people coming into

857
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: the homes of these NFL employees, you know, have they

858
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: had contact with it. If they have, well they bring

859
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: it in there. Is it on any of the equipment

860
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: they would bring it in there? That's to me a

861
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: valid concern. So I think, why wouldn't you postponent move

862
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: it back? Some from my vand's plans? Yes, that I

863
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: do understand. Yeah, they said, why wouldn't you move it back?

864
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: Everyone else is? Everyone else is either postpony or canceling whatever.

865
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: I've got a daughter in school, but she's not going

866
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: to school now. She's at home. She's not going back

867
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: to school until September. But the NFL, as I said,

868
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: is doing it sort of business as is with this

869
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: virtual draft. I just think it looks bad to the league. Clark,

870
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: I got one last question for you. One of the

871
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: things that now is we were talking about it a

872
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: ton about a month ago, and now it's kind of

873
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: flown completely under the radar. What do you think about

874
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: the seventeen game schedule the players agreed to it. It

875
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: seems like an afterthought now given the seventeen playoffs scenarios,

876
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: and now with the virus and the shutdown and maybe

877
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: not having a regular season, but sooner or later, well

878
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: it looks like in twenty twenty one they're going to

879
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: be playing seventeen games. What are your thoughts on that

880
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: long term? Well, yeah, again, I'd love to hear what

881
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: Steve has to say, but I'm vehemently against it. Always

882
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: I've been. I been against the extension of any season

883
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: because if you're a league that's talking about concern for

884
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: the safety and welfare of your players, why are extending

885
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: the league? And the reason is because you want to

886
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: make more money. Why are you playing Thursday night games? Well,

887
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: because you want to make more money with a TV.

888
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: And to me, I don't understand if if we've had

889
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: such a concern about CTE and other issues regarding players,

890
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: injuries and the futures of players and the conditions of players,

891
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: why are we extending the season? And the answer is

892
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: very simple. Money, That's why. That's it. Hey, Clark, thanks

893
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: for this, Stay healthy and we'll talk again sometime. Thank

894
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: you very much, very good. Good talking to you, Steve,

895
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: Take care, Thanks Thanks Clark. Clark Judges, writer host of

896
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: The Talk of Fame never contributor to SI dot com,

897
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: and a couple of interesting things to say about the

898
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, But about the tone depth argument, which

899
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: we talked about at length before free agency. Steve and

900
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: I agree, we did. The NFL got through that. Clark

901
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: had a post on his Twitter feed today from a

902
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: writer in San Francisco really going into detail on how

903
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: tone deaf it is. There's an argument to be made.

904
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: I think I disagree with those guys, but there is

905
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: an argument to be made. There isn't there that the

906
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: NFL conducts its business is if nothing's going on. In fact,

907
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: stuff is going on. Yeah, tone deaf, Yeah, I get it.

908
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: You can make the argument, but you can also make

909
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: the exact opposite argument, Murph. People want it, you know,

910
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: they forget that. People want the distraction. People are looking

911
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: for something that makes them feel normal again. People are

912
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: looking for something to distract them. You got two thirds

913
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: of the population on the planet closed indoors, and they

914
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: want somebody to be doing something for them, you know

915
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: what I mean, somebody to be doing something that entertains

916
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: them or at least normal. They want to see, you know,

917
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: something that makes them that takes their mind off this.

918
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: And if it's the NFL that can do it, just

919
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: by having a draft that everybody's safe and keeping them

920
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: out of their houses is certainly there's some inherent risk

921
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: because of the virus and there's a chance to spread

922
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: through some small, um you know it problem they've got.

923
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: But man oh man, Yeah, you can make the fact

924
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: that they're tone deaf by doing it. You can also

925
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: make the fact that they've got their ear to the ground.

926
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: They hear everything. And it's exactly what maybe some a

927
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: lot of people in the country would like to see happen.

928
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see how it plays out. All right,

929
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: we got a breakcare. We're back with more. One does

930
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: Live presented back a lot of health radio only today

931
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: from our home, Steve's home. I'm home. This is Buffalo

932
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. We're trying to help you stay connected to

933
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills in the NFL. I guess that's our role, Husty.

934
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: We're good at that. I think we're pretty good at it,

935
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: right Yeah, Yeah, I'm I'm just gonna say, yes we are.

936
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: Did you ask it the Twitter question? Do Bills players

937
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: not keet the recognition they deserve because of the small

938
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: market team they play on? Jalen Ramsay kind of told

939
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: Tevis White that's the case. What do you think? Fifty

940
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five

941
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: fifty will discuss that topic or whatever you'd like to

942
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: discuss on the full lines. On the Twitter poll, seventy

943
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: two percent to say you say yes, that's true, twenty

944
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: eight percent say no. And let's go to the tweet

945
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: sheet brought to you by Korrigan Moving Systems. The official

946
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: moving to the Buffalo Bills Bills and Mets fans says,

947
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm in the minority, but Green Bay is a small market.

948
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: Win and you get credit. Farvin Rodgers get recognition. Jim

949
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: Andre Bruce and Thurman got recognition when we won win

950
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: and everybody will know who you are. I agree with that, Stee.

951
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: I think that's true. Yeah, I think so. The league

952
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: is big, even the teams we don't care about. There's

953
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: a ton of people who do you know, out of

954
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: conference across the country. You know, here in Buffalo we

955
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: don't really care about. You know, Russell Wilson's of the world.

956
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: But you know what, the guys won a Super Bowl

957
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: and he wins a lot of games. People know him here,

958
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, So I think when you win a

959
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: lot of games, you get a lot of attention. And

960
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: that's just the way it works. Bills players not get

961
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: the recognition they deserve because they play in Buffalo, Tiffany

962
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: tweets and absolutely that's true. Trey White is a superstar,

963
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: phenomenal player, gigantic, fun loving personality. If he played for

964
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, he'd be selling Campbell's soup, not Dak Prescott.

965
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: In my opinion, he had a better season than Gilmore

966
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: should have been recognized at the national level. There's the

967
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: other argument. There is something to be said for that.

968
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: I mean there Look, there are national teams, Green Days

969
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: one of them, Dallas is one of them. There are

970
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: teams that transcend some of the others because of who

971
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: they are. I think that's almost accepted in the NFL,

972
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, no question. And like I said too,

973
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: primetime games. We talk about it all the time. Buffalo

974
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 1: Bills fans want to see the Bills on primetime games.

975
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: You know, they want to see him on Monday night,

976
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: Thursday night, Sunday Night football. They wanted to be part

977
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: of that. And you get that by being a team

978
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: that networks and fans at large can count on being

979
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: good every year. So when the schedule comes out, they

980
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: don't care. Yeah, hey, you know what, the Bills are

981
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: gonna be good again. Let's put him on that kind

982
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: of thing. And that's when you start getting guys who

983
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: were known by one name. You know, Jim, Bruce, Thurman

984
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,959
Speaker 1: and Andre you know people are you know people around

985
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: the country. You know, there's like the Beatles, you know

986
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: those guys. So yeah, when you start winning, you people

987
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: depend on you being great and you come through for

988
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: him year after year. Yeah, you get it no matter

989
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: where you're playing. You know, it's a really good player

990
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: and does not have much of a national name. Our

991
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: next guest, Demario Davis, linebacker for the New Orleans Saints.

992
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: What I read, great co sell I think was tweeted

993
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: in Jay tweeted and great sells. Demario Davis is the

994
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: best three down linebacker in the NFL, and he's good

995
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: and he won the Frank Wright called the Courage Award

996
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He's coming up next on

997
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: the show, Demario Davis, linebacker for the New Orleans Saints.

998
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: Good friend of the show. We'll take a break here.

999
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Cavada Health Radio only coming

1000
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: to you from our homes. This is Buffalo Bills reading,

1001
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: Oh a great time, Steve Plasterer to the Bastie bass time.

1002
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: Here we go all number two of the show one

1003
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: Bills Line presented by Colaida Health Time, John Murphy's team

1004
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: tasker and on the line with us. A guy we've

1005
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: had on the show before. He's a linebacker for the

1006
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints in his ninth season in the National

1007
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: Football League. Former third round pick of the Jets in

1008
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. Happy to have New York New Orleans Saints

1009
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: linebacker Damario Davis on the line with us. Tomario, thanks

1010
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: for coming on. We had you on once before. What

1011
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: two years ago? You won the call the current award,

1012
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: the Frank break Breakfast, and we enjoyed talking to you. Then,

1013
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: congratulations on that again, Thank you man, thank you. I'm

1014
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: to be back home than you. What was that much

1015
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: for you? That was a big deal, right, there was

1016
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: a pretty cool breakfast and that didn't mean something to

1017
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,479
Speaker 1: win that award? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a huge ward.

1018
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: Because I've always I'm a person who wants to be

1019
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: recognized for my faith first, you know, that's the most

1020
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: important part of my life. And so to be to

1021
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: be recognized for a call the courage and the person

1022
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: I am off the field more than I am on

1023
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: the field, It's good to when accolades on the field.

1024
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: But you know when I when I when I leave

1025
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: this place, whenever, that is. I don't want people to

1026
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: remember me for what I did on the field. I

1027
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: want them to remember me for how I impacted their lives.

1028
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: It's one of the interesting things. A value you you

1029
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: got fined was a last year a couple of years

1030
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: ago when Drew Brees was down. Uh maybe it was

1031
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: last year with the thumb surgery or whatever. You you know,

1032
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: somebody's gotta stepped up. So somebody says, listen to Mario,

1033
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 1: you gotta do the chance in the huddle before the game. Right.

1034
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: So you said, all right, So you stepped up and

1035
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: you had your Man of God headband on, and because

1036
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: you have a headband on, it's not sanctioned by the NFL,

1037
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: and they find you seven grand for leading a team

1038
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: chant before the game. Right, So now tell me how

1039
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: you turned that around and made money for a good cause. Man, Yeah,

1040
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: you said exactly how it was. Man. That was when

1041
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: I got to New Orleans. You know, I'm a leader

1042
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: by nature, but I mean it was a good leadership

1043
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: cast already in placing. So I just found my role

1044
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: as a guy who could hold down the middle of

1045
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: the defense, and I more so was a leader by example.

1046
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm very I'm a very vocal guy, so in the

1047
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: locker room because I'm cracking jokes and playing with guys.

1048
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: So I'm just loud by nature. But I never had

1049
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 1: took on, you know, being that vocal leader of the team.

1050
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: And when Drew went down, he messaged me and asked

1051
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: me to, you know, to step up, and I was like, okay,

1052
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: well let's hold me. And I didn't shot shot away

1053
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: from it. So I just stepped into that role. And

1054
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: I have been wearing that head man all season, you know,

1055
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: so I didn't think nothing about it. It wasn't even

1056
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: on my mind, like, oh, I've been to make sure

1057
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: I take this off before I get on, you know,

1058
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: in front of all these cameras or whatnot. I've been

1059
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: wearing it. You know. I know that they had that

1060
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: cat sho me on the sideline with it on, you know,

1061
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: many times. But you know, I think another And so

1062
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: when it blew up and I got the fine, you know,

1063
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was. I was in a

1064
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: real dilemma. You know. My back was against the wall,

1065
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: to say, because when I when I got the filet it.

1066
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: It just so happened at the headband. When I was

1067
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: in the locker room, the headband was on the floor,

1068
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: and I saw a man of God right there. I'm like, man, now,

1069
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: it's like if I take this off and I'm not

1070
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: just trying to follow the league's policy, like this be

1071
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: denouncing my faith or being ashamed of who I am,

1072
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, and all these things going through my mind.

1073
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: And so I was in a real dilemma. And then

1074
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: the social media caught wind of it, and it had

1075
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: all this outrage you should word it, you shouldn't wear

1076
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: it now, you know, become even more of a pressure situation.

1077
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:49,479
Speaker 1: And now I'm just I'm praying and saying, Okay, God,

1078
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: how do you get the most glory from this? You know,

1079
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: missed this up, you know, and make people feel sometimes

1080
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: and uh low and behold man, he moved in the

1081
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: mirackless way. You know. We went on to raise like

1082
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars for Saint dumb Nique's Hospital, and

1083
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean it was it was an incredible journey. So

1084
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: much stuff happened happened in there. Uh, just just a

1085
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: mind blowing, mind blowing type of year. Just seeing guy

1086
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: moving and and been able to help a hospital's trying

1087
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: to rebuild this emergency rule. UM got connected with so

1088
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: many people through that, and UM, you know, just empowered

1089
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people to step out of their favor

1090
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: in the head beds whatnot. It just was. It was

1091
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: a lot, man, a lot, a lot, A lot of

1092
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: interesting things came from there. We live on the line

1093
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: with Demario Davis, New Orleans Sings line backer. You've done

1094
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting things in the last month or so, Demurrio,

1095
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: you and your wife are offering tips for home schooling.

1096
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: You've got kids at home from school, and you've offered

1097
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: some tips for parents who've got kids at home trying

1098
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: to get them educated. What are you telling parents? Yeah,

1099
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: I mean we had to step back from the situation

1100
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: and realize that, uh, this is semi normal for us,

1101
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: and it's very different for a lot of people. And

1102
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: so that kind of puts us in a position to

1103
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: strength kind of being able to kind of keep a

1104
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: level of mind and help people. UM, at this time

1105
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: of year, this is the only time of year while

1106
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: I'm at home a lot, and so this is going

1107
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: on where it's for some people who are normally at

1108
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: work to be at home. This is the time of

1109
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: ye know, we're all at home. Also my wife and kids, uh,

1110
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: their home school every day where mom's stay at home,

1111
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: the kids they home school, and so life is normal

1112
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: for us except for the vacations. We can't take vacations

1113
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: right now. Where this this this, this COVID nineteen is

1114
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: kind of flipped a lot of people's world upside down.

1115
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: Where these months, you know, from you know, February to July,

1116
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: this is kind of how life looks, you know, and

1117
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: so where everybody else is kind of panicking, you know,

1118
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: not knowing what's going on, and our mind is kind

1119
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: of just kind of calm. We said, okay, how can

1120
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: we how can we help people? And so you know,

1121
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: there there are like three or four things that we

1122
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: try to keep, you know, kind of our main focuses,

1123
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: and those are the things that we try to try

1124
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: to help share with people and say, hey, you try

1125
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: these things. These are some things that can kind of

1126
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: kind of help you stay stay on task and stay

1127
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: on track tomorrow, Tomario. What are some of the what

1128
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: is the biggest misconception people have about home schooling and

1129
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: like when they think they're just gonna started up. What's

1130
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: the biggest surprise most people face. Oh, that's gonna be superstructured. Yeah, yeah,

1131
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this at this time. We're gonna do

1132
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: this at this time. We're gonna do this at this time.

1133
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: So we got you gotta schedule. Drop your schedule from uh,

1134
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, eight o'clock to three pm to say exactly

1135
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do. And that's just like going to

1136
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: the game plays saying we're gonna run these twenty players

1137
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: and they're gonna work like X Y z R. They're

1138
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: gonna run the scope board up on you. So you

1139
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: better be really ready to adapt and cause some audibles

1140
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: real quick. We're on the line with Damario Davis, New

1141
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: Orleans Sings Slambacker. Demario, you've also made a pretty big

1142
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: donation to hospitality cares. You play in New Orleans, which

1143
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: is a big tourism city, maybe the biggest in the country,

1144
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: and the hospital workers there you put together and plann

1145
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: to kind of help them out there in these tough times. Yeah. Yeah,

1146
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: for the hotel workers. I mean yeah, yeah, My wife

1147
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: and I wanted to find a way that we can help.

1148
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's so much going on so much chaos,

1149
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: not just in our country but around the world, and

1150
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: so you want to start close to home areas that

1151
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: that that that impact you most. Mississippi, New Orleans being

1152
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: one of New Orleans is one of the hardest hit

1153
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 1: places per capita, right up there with like New York.

1154
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: And when you look at it, you're like, okay, man,

1155
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: this is see we're playing A guy has this here

1156
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: for a purpose. He has here for a reason. You know,

1157
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: how can we help? And we already do do some

1158
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: work with United Way of Southeast Louisiana UM just you

1159
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: know throughout the year and UM in education and criminal

1160
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: justice reform. So we've been working with them, and then

1161
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: they had an initiative of where they wanted to help

1162
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: financially help you know, hospitality workers and understand that people

1163
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: can't go to work right now. People. I think I

1164
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: think the new numbers were like at six point six

1165
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: million of unemployed people find unemployment. Now we're like thirteen

1166
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: million and I cut you. So you just know, like

1167
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: people are going through real financial hardships right now and

1168
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: on top of the pandemonium of the unknown and trying

1169
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: to protect themselves and their family. And so we just

1170
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: wanted to help out any way that we could. So, uh,

1171
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: we we we wanted to give, but we also realized

1172
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: that there are people out there who can who are

1173
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: also in a position to give and not just you know,

1174
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: and and just kind of sparked that that spirit of

1175
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: it's all all of us to kind of take care

1176
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: of each other. And so we worked on we worked

1177
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: on several different things to just try to try to

1178
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: help out. And and you know, like the hospitality workers,

1179
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, they live on tips. So it's hard that

1180
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: nobody's able to visit the restaurants. Even though people can

1181
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: take take out, those people aren't getting tips and and

1182
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: their salary is not going to cover them. So, you know,

1183
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: people at the restaurants, people at hotels and whatnot, people

1184
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: who take care of us. You know, we want to

1185
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: try to hip out with that. Yeah, you're living in Nashville,

1186
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: playing in New Orleans. We're up here in New York,

1187
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: and it seems like we're maybe and I don't know

1188
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: how this timeframe. I'm not gonna pretend that I'm an

1189
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: expert in epidemiology, but we seem to be a couple

1190
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: of weeks ahead of where you might be in Nashville

1191
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: and maybe in New Orleans, except that you're head coach

1192
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: Sean Payton was tested positive. What has the team told

1193
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: you about how he handled that, how you know, advice

1194
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: that they've given you. And plus what's Nashville like now

1195
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: that you're living there, what's the atmosphere in Nashville like

1196
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: with the with the lockdown? Yeah? Well, I mean when when? When?

1197
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: When I saw ready by Schell, He's one of the

1198
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: few people that I really were about for a couple

1199
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: of reasons. One, he's one of the toughest fighters spirits.

1200
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: I get spirited guys I've ever been around, So I

1201
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna be be ready to ready to fight.

1202
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: He probably saw it more as a challenge than anything,

1203
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: uh knowing him. And secondly, he's very detailed, and that's

1204
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things, Like, you know, follow all

1205
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: the rules that they're telling us to follow as far

1206
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: as stay in clean, stay isolated, you know, following the protocols.

1207
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna whatever the doctors were telling

1208
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: him and then people were telling him around him. I

1209
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna follow those things to the tea,

1210
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: which is which is very smart and very responsible. And

1211
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: what all of us should be doing. So I really

1212
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: didn't have too many worries about him, and so once

1213
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: he got cleared out, I mean I just kind of

1214
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: kind of expected that, and I think that that he's

1215
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: you know, using that to amplify the message throughout New

1216
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: Orleans as a one of the most respected guys there

1217
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: and letting people know, like this is serious and we

1218
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: need to follow, you know, everything they're telling us. So

1219
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: I think he handled that the best as best as

1220
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: you could. And then here in Nashville. Nashville is a

1221
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: much much different scene. Everybody here is already even though

1222
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: it's a big population, still it's a lot of space

1223
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: and everybody here is kind of already spaced out. And um,

1224
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: it's slowed down. It slowed down a lot, and not

1225
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: many people are moving around. Everybody's pretty much staying at home.

1226
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: And even though last week, I think people started to

1227
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: kind of move back like how they wanted to move

1228
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: and the governor came in and pretty much shut the

1229
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: whole state down. So, um, yeah, it's been pretty it's

1230
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: been pretty calm here. Uh. We we kind of have

1231
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: our house and and with our kids and we've been

1232
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: in they unless we had to make a grocery run,

1233
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: store run. But other than that, we've just been We've

1234
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 1: been sitting tight. We're on the line with Saint Slaine

1235
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: backer Demario Davis Tomio, a former teammate of Virs, is

1236
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: now with the Buffalo Bells. We have been met him yet,

1237
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: AJ Klein, What can you tell us about Aj? What

1238
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: kind of a player is he? What kind of guy

1239
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: is he? Oh? Man, he's one of the one the

1240
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: one of the best guys I've ever been around. A

1241
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: phenomenal football player. Loves the game, and that's what you want.

1242
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: You want guys who love the game. Uh, he's gonna

1243
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: be one of the first guys in last guys to

1244
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: leave every day. Various thincts you a linebacker because of

1245
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: the way he studies um. He studies studies taped to

1246
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: the tum a phenomenal recognizer plays and being able to

1247
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: see plays before they happen. You see a lot of

1248
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: plays where he snuffed him out in the backfield. He

1249
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: played You know, Versatiles knows the game. Can play multiple

1250
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,959
Speaker 1: positions at linebacker, week side, middle, and outside. He played

1251
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: middle and outside for us UM just depending on h Yeah, man,

1252
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: just a phenomenal guy, a great leader. Everybody's in the

1253
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 1: locker room gonna respect um, you know, so he's gonna

1254
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: care about the team, care about the city. This phenomenal guy.

1255
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: You guys are getting a first class player for sure tomorrow.

1256
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: I guess one or thing. How are you handling your

1257
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: day to day routine and far as your career is concerned.

1258
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know. You know, it's hard to

1259
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: go out and work out. I'm sure you probably have

1260
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: some way to do some workouts at home, but that's

1261
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: not the same And and plus the uncertainty about why

1262
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: you're working out when you're gonna have to be ready

1263
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: to play. How are you handling that in the day

1264
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: to day situation? Yeah? Yeah, I think the biggest thing

1265
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 1: for me is not being able to gauge the time

1266
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: when we'll be able to get back. You know, so

1267
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: much of your training is all about peaking at the

1268
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: right time, taking the right amount of weeks off, building

1269
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:12,959
Speaker 1: it back so that when you go back with the team,

1270
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: you should be on a you should be up going

1271
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: up the incline, and so being able to gage that

1272
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: is the hardest thing for me. I'm a very creative

1273
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: guy in how I train. Uh So, going back to

1274
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: these elements of training, you know, being at home, I

1275
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: have a lot of stuff around the house to that,

1276
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: and I trained with a lot of bands and resistance

1277
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: and balance work. So I got all those devices. And

1278
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: actually my trainer came out with me a little bit

1279
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: before a little bit before the pandemonium hit, and so

1280
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: he's been here working with me and my house, and

1281
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: so we've transferred the gym in our backyard into a

1282
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, pretty much a good workout facility. And I'm

1283
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: very creative in my workouts anyways, and so this isn't

1284
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: this isn't you know, very new new to me. Um,

1285
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: It's not like I have to be on a football

1286
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: field while running in routs one hundred yards, so you know,

1287
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: I work in short, confined spaces and so I can

1288
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: get all my work in no problem. The hardest thing

1289
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: for me is just unknown about when will start back,

1290
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: so I can't I can't really gauge when I want

1291
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: to peek my workout. So it's just like I'm kind

1292
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: of working out of limbo, Like, Okay, I'm gonna stay

1293
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: on this natural you know, on the same progression, just

1294
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: anticipating us going back at the time we said we

1295
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: would start late April. But knowing that's not gonna happen,

1296
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna probably have to take like a d

1297
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: low week, kind of come down a little bit and

1298
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: then build it back up and just try to play

1299
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: it by ear Hey, Tomorrio, we got great Cosell NFL

1300
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: films coming up in an hour so and as I

1301
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: read you what he said about you, he said, the

1302
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: best three down linebacker in the NFL. That's gotta be

1303
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: a point of pride, right, you don't come off the

1304
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: field I'm passing down. You gotta be versatile. I've been

1305
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: thinking be able to run a little bit to be

1306
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: a good three down linebacker. Huh yeah, I mean yeah,

1307
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: that's I take a lot of pride in that. And

1308
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: then even when I hear three dollar linebacker, you know,

1309
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: just like three downs, I really try to focus my

1310
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: craft on three phases of the game, and that's you know,

1311
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: how will I stopped the run or how well I

1312
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: impact the game in the run game, how will I

1313
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: can cover individual matchups and tight ends and running backs,

1314
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: and how will I can get pressure on the quarterback

1315
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: from the inside back of position, like those are the

1316
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: three areas where I take a lot of pride and

1317
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: I try to separate myself like I do. I feel

1318
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: like they're any other linebacker that's in front of me

1319
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: in this area where I need to learn from him,

1320
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: or if I'm the guy at that position, I need

1321
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: to create as much differance in these spaces, because that's

1322
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: what I want coaches to feel like in these three

1323
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: areas a game, you know, we got it all right

1324
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: here in one person. You know, if we need a

1325
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: linebacker that can take a tighten or running back out

1326
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: of the game, we got the guy. We need a

1327
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: linebacker that complix, we got the guy. Or we need

1328
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: to get better stopping the run, we got the guy.

1329
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: And I think you know as as as as a

1330
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: linebacker in today's game, like those are the three to

1331
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: central areas, and I pride myself on being a must

1332
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: elite in all those areas. Yeah, you spent you played

1333
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: a lot of football day. You used to play for

1334
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: the Jets. For a minute. Now you're down to New

1335
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: Orleans and one of the guys you used to play

1336
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: for the Jets ended up going to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

1337
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard about it. But Tom

1338
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's now with the Buccaneers. You're gonna see him

1339
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: twice a year again, What are you gonna tell your

1340
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: teammates about what he's capable of? And how's that changed

1341
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: the landscape in your division? I mean, you know, when

1342
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy or that magnitude, I don't

1343
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: think anything has to be said about, you know, to

1344
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: anybody about who you're playing against or anything like that.

1345
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: I remember, Um, you know Tom has been you know,

1346
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: one of the hardest guys to to ever ever. Uh

1347
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: little prepare for um a guy who you know. The

1348
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: closest replica to that that I've seen is Drew. Going

1349
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: against Drew and the luxury of being able to go

1350
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: against him and practice so much somebody that that anticipates

1351
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: every every snap is almost like he comes to a

1352
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: lot of him. He knows what you and he knows

1353
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: what he's going with the ball before and see the snap.

1354
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: You know, those two are in a different league. And

1355
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: so being able to practice against Drew so long, I've

1356
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: anticipated that matchup of being able to go against Tom

1357
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: because I've grown as a player since the last time

1358
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: I played him. Uh So now it's like, oh, he's

1359
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: coming to our backyard, man. And so it's exciting. Man.

1360
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: I know you guys are relieved that he'll division. Yeah,

1361
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: but it just it just it just uh it's enticing, man,

1362
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: it really is. Man. It's like, uh like you know,

1363
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: somebody just just just just brought out the dessert, you know,

1364
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: And so it's definitely gonna get interested in our country,

1365
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: in our division. Um. But I mean, you know, not

1366
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: just tempy. I mean, Teddy went down to Carolina Atlanta

1367
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: added some more pieces. So it's gonna be exciting. Man.

1368
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: You know every year, you know, and nothing gut cheat nobody.

1369
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: You gotta fight for that throne. Everybody's fighting for that

1370
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: that that one seat, that one seat on the couch

1371
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: him and uh, you know, may the best man win.

1372
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: And and you know it's exciety because when you have

1373
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: that much talent in your division, you know, it just

1374
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: kind of you know, you get to face that twice

1375
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: a year. Uh, it kind of poises you when you

1376
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: go against those you know, tougher matchups down the road.

1377
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: What what do you see from Drew Brees on a

1378
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: daily basis that makes him so good? Tomorrio, He's almost

1379
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: gets he almost gets overshadowed because he's an older quarterback

1380
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: like Brady. Everybody talks about Brady, but Breez is right

1381
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: there next to him, an he let me tell you,

1382
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: let me say a few things and listen, and it is.

1383
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: It is completely absurd, and Drew never said so I

1384
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: gotta say it for him, you know, for him not

1385
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: to be on the All Decades team, it's horrible. How

1386
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: is Drew Brees not on the All Decade Team? Yeah?

1387
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 1: I agree, first of all, that's first of all. And

1388
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: then it was like all NFL team that came out,

1389
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, like the All History team or whatever that

1390
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: came out there in the middle of year. How does

1391
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: he not on that team? Yeah, I totally agree. That's

1392
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's the most absurd thing that I've

1393
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: ever seen. And it's not I mean even if I

1394
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: never played with him, I think I would have felt

1395
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah. You know, when the man has every

1396
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: passing record that you can have, yeah, and he has

1397
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. Yeah, so it's like, Okay, what are

1398
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: you gonna say, like, oh, he never won one? Okay,

1399
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: damn Marino number one one. That man has every record

1400
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: and he has a super Bowl he's standing there for

1401
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: his own his own reason in the wanting to win

1402
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: another one. That was a big reason why I signed

1403
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: with New Orleans. But let's come on, let's that's first

1404
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: of all. Second of all, so he's impressive, impressive by

1405
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: the by the numbers and not just numbers. Then, like

1406
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: he played so long, so he got all those stats.

1407
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: Look at the efficiency numbers, right, I mean, last he

1408
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: threw a he had a game, I mean something for

1409
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,560
Speaker 1: sent passer raiding, Like I could play the game. I

1410
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: could play my video game on on rookie on the

1411
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: easiest mode. It is hard for me to do. It

1412
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: is in real life for his elite players. And so

1413
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: you know when you look at all this, but then

1414
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 1: like he's there's so many things about him, his competitive nature.

1415
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: He gets this looking his eye when he's competing, like

1416
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: he could be playing the corn hole, you know, and

1417
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: he had just looking his eye like why are you

1418
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: so serious? Right now? Man? Like I watched him play

1419
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: ping pong and the guy Wi somebody we had another

1420
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: guy's pretty good at ping pong. He beat him like

1421
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: the first two games and then Drew came back like

1422
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: three in a row, and like, I mean just like

1423
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: watching a light switch, like you see like that competitive

1424
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: that competitive will you know, you want to see that

1425
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 1: in guys like Michael Jordan, Tom Brady's and Andrew Breezes

1426
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: of the world like it's it's another level. And then

1427
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: he's like he's like a robot. He does the same

1428
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: thing over and over and over and over, like every

1429
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: day he's in the same place breakfast at the same time,

1430
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: he does the same film prep. He does the same

1431
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: drills to him up like he's just made mastery repetitive.

1432
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: And that's why he's he's so good. He has this

1433
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: little visualizing technique where he goes out of the field.

1434
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,480
Speaker 1: He's on the field for like an hour on Saturdays

1435
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: before we go to the hotel or before we get

1436
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: on the plan, and it's like he's walking down the

1437
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: field he's doing his visualizing technique that is just unreal.

1438
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: You have to see it. You gotta see it. Like

1439
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: now I'm trying to visualize stuff. I'm I want to

1440
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: feel walking around do this like man, let me just

1441
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,560
Speaker 1: get a glimpse like he's seeing like FOLKTV, let me

1442
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: just see mind and seven twenty. I'm good. I got

1443
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: one more teammate to ask you about. And that's another quarterback.

1444
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: I guess Taysom Hill, Tomorio Is he how special is he?

1445
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: And is he may be a trend that will see

1446
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: more of in the future, kind of a utility player

1447
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: playing some quarterback as well. What do you think? I mean,

1448
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, Man, He's he's the first of his

1449
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: kind of you know, I've always thought about what it

1450
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: would be like to be somebody that kind of changes

1451
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: the game, be the first of your kind. And seeing

1452
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: that with Taysom Hill, and that's and that's a that's

1453
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: a big kudos to his ability, but also a big

1454
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: kudos to the coach for being able to see different

1455
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: ways to use him. Um, I mean the guys in

1456
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: one time, he's kick returning, then he's blocking a punt,

1457
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: then he's faking a punt, you know, and then he's

1458
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: at quarterback, then he's at tight end, then he's at

1459
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: full back, he's at slot I mean, and then he's

1460
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 1: at quarterback, you know. And so it's like his skill

1461
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: set is is unique, I mean, And so when they

1462
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: try to put him in in in in a quarterback conversation,

1463
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, that's when you start to like, man, you're

1464
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: really limited. This guy. This his uniqueness is his ability

1465
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: to do everything. You know, I'm like, the only thing

1466
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: I want to see him do is get on defense.

1467
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: Wan't player and get a snap a slack like I

1468
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: like a static, like to see that. Like, man, i'd

1469
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: bean that be complete. I mean it's like high school man,

1470
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 1: you I mean high school, I played in every position.

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01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 1: This guy doing this in the NFL. So you know,

1472
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: I just give you know, major kudos to him, a

1473
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: major kudos to the coach for being able to see

1474
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: that use that and uh like and I know he

1475
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: I think Taysom really wants to be a good quarterback

1476
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: in the league. And I think, you know, he's done

1477
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: all this, so I would never put a limit on

1478
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: the guy that can do so much. Um And I

1479
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: even saw this progression as a as a quarterback when

1480
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: when I first got there, he was just hitting the

1481
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: checkdown in training camp to last year, you see him

1482
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: making reads and hitting guys and dicing us all over

1483
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: the fielding. So you see the progression is there. But

1484
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 1: I think his his greatest challenge is that he could

1485
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: be you know, It's like, how do you game playing

1486
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 1: for a guy like that? Yep? All over great talking

1487
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: to me today. Thanks man, it's great talking to you. Hey,

1488
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: thanks for having me on guys. Talk to you soon.

1489
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: Stay healthy. Da Mario Davis, linebacker for the Saints in

1490
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: his ninth season in the NFL. First team All Pro

1491
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: player last year for the New Orleans Saints, doing great

1492
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: work with hospitality Karen's helping out to hospitality workers, hotel

1493
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: and rush workers in New Orleans and putting up videos

1494
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: to help out parents who are homeschooling. And I've never

1495
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 1: thought of that, see, but people who are used to

1496
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: homeschooling would would have a couple of tips. I guess

1497
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: for parents these days. I know a lot of parents

1498
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 1: right in the neighborhood year got kids at home. They

1499
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: got to figure out a way to teach him right. Yeah.

1500
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,799
Speaker 1: It's funny too, because I asked him what the biggest surpresent.

1501
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: He said, Man, don't try and have a schedule just you.

1502
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna work, right, I can't think about it.

1503
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna be sitting in their desks at eight

1504
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: thirty and then leave at three, you know. So he said,

1505
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: let that go and keep it free. Will That's it's

1506
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: great advice. He and his wife Tamella. She's got a

1507
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: blog that you can look up and about. It's all

1508
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: about homeschooling. They've been doing it for eight or nine years,

1509
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: and uh, it takes a great commitment. You can obviously

1510
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: tell from his conversation with us his lights are on.

1511
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: And the guy's a sharp guy, which is part of

1512
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: the reason he's in All Pro as well. So fun

1513
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: to talk to him. A great guy and and you

1514
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: understand that's the kind of guy teams look for to

1515
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: try and be on their team. A guy like Demorrio Days,

1516
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: what a leader he is. He would fit in here,

1517
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 1: don't you think absolutely they would The type of personality

1518
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: would fit in here. They would seek him out immediately.

1519
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he's thirty one, so he's been around the block.

1520
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: He's gotten you know, he's got a lot of a

1521
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: lot of games under his bell, a lot of experience.

1522
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: You can tell too, he's he's first team All Pro

1523
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: last year at the age thirty. The guys got it

1524
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: so tremendous player, great NFL football players, had a great career. Yep,

1525
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: Damario Davis from the New Orleans Saints, one of our

1526
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: favorite time the show. Hey, our Twitter poll today came

1527
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: about because Trey White was advised by Jalen Ramsey. Hey,

1528
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: you gotta get out of Buffalo if you're gonna get

1529
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:39,440
Speaker 1: any recognition. Okay, j Bills players not get the recognition

1530
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: they deserve because of the small market team they play on.

1531
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: What do you think on Twitter? Four hundred votes in

1532
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: seventy one of you say yes, twenty nine percent say no.

1533
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it on the phone lines when we

1534
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: come back eight h three h five fifty toll free

1535
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: from outside Buffalo one eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1536
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: What do you think of that? What do you think

1537
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: of the NFL in general, the Bills? Any questions you have,

1538
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: give us a call. We're coming back with more. One

1539
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 1: Bills Live presented A Boy Come Out of Health Radio

1540
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: only on Buffalo Bills Radio. We're back. It's one Bills Live.

1541
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: We're midway through this Thursday show. No show tomorrow. We're

1542
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: off for good Friday. We're off on Monday, previously scheduled

1543
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: days off for the whole team, and we'll take them

1544
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: right Steve, I have I have nixed meanings about it because,

1545
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: to be honest, the show is the best thing about

1546
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 1: my day. I couldn't have said that before about a

1547
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: month ago, but I'll say it now. No, it's always

1548
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: been a good show. It's always been fun. Yeah, it's

1549
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: it's always fun to do the show. But there's some

1550
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, usually you've got stuff we could do. But

1551
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: you know what I think about it, Murph, Yes, everybody's

1552
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,560
Speaker 1: everybody's kind of social distancing. You're you're locked in the

1553
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 1: house right, sure, am. And not only that, the weather

1554
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: was it was snowing like two hours ago. Now the

1555
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: sun's actually out of my house. Yeah here too as well,

1556
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: So you know, so there's actually but there's actually you know,

1557
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: outside and do anything either. So you're locked in the

1558
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 1: house with nothing to do except me, you know, watch

1559
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: TV or whatever. So yeah, I mean the show is fun, right,

1560
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 1: it's like the fun part of the day. You're not

1561
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: proposing you and I get together on the phone tomorrow

1562
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: and do something at noon? Are you I'll be busy?

1563
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm not doing it. As much as I

1564
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: love doing the show, I love talking to you every day,

1565
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I will take the day off

1566
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: and Monday off too. We're back on makes Us Freshure

1567
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, exactly. We'll have a backlog of things you

1568
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: want to talk about today. A full nine are open

1569
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 1: for anything our listeners want to talk about about the

1570
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: Bills in the NFL, and our Twitter poll is out

1571
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 1: there too. Do the Bills players not get the recognition

1572
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: they deserve because they play in Buffalo? Small market Buffalo?

1573
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 1: Seventy one percent say yes, twenty nine percent say no.

1574
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,600
Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call? Eight h

1575
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight by

1576
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,599
Speaker 1: fifty two. I want to read some more tweets. Steve

1577
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: tweets here, Steve, you got the tweets sheet from you?

1578
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: I got the tweet sheet right here from Let's see

1579
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: we haven't done from Bills Mets fan? Have we? Yes?

1580
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 1: We have? All right, then let's go to sipping the

1581
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: kool aid. I voted no. I think being insigant. I

1582
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: think being insignificant during a seventeen year playoff drought is

1583
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: the biggest reason. When the Bills are good, they do

1584
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 1: get recognition. I think a lot of the national media

1585
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: is giving the Bills players positive recognition right now. I

1586
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 1: think he's onto something there. You do get the league

1587
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: is big Murph. Whoever's playing well in the league, people

1588
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 1: want to watch him because I think most people realize

1589
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 1: how difficult it is to stand out in a league

1590
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: full of guys who stand out. So I think it

1591
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you're playing. When you're playing well, you're

1592
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: on the spotlight in a hurry. Think about two years ago,

1593
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 1: the Rams hadn't been relevant in over a decade and

1594
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 1: a half and they had one great year from Sean

1595
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 1: Payton and Jared Goff. They'll go to the super Bowl

1596
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: and man, oh man, people are really interested in watching him.

1597
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: But now you know not so much. You know, so

1598
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: when you win, you get the recognition deserve. When you don't,

1599
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: you don't, And it doesn't matter the market or the

1600
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 1: city you play in. I think sipping the kool age's

1601
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: onto something. With that seventeen year playoff drought two that

1602
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: was looking people. Media people used to talk about, oh,

1603
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: the Bills are insignificant, the Bills are have no profile

1604
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 1: because of and you know, the Bills don't even get

1605
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: discussed in the NFL. And that was a little bit overstatement,

1606
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: but clearly I think the Bills players lacked recognition during

1607
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: the playoff drought. The very good ones Kyle Williams comes

1608
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: prominently to mind, and I think that's over. Now you know,

1609
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 1: you make the playoffs, all of a sudden, people notice

1610
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: how you are, how you play, in what you do.

1611
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 1: Here's another one from the tweetcheet, brought to you by

1612
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: Cargan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills.

1613
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 1: Nick Ti says, I think it's due more to our

1614
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: team first approach. Even in a bigger market, our players

1615
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: would not stand out as much because that's not how

1616
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: we are built. We don't rely on a handful of superstars.

1617
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: We have a bunch of very good players who played

1618
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: great together in our system. That's an interesting point, Steve,

1619
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: you agree with it. I do, I do, and some

1620
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: of that is true. But I think even that players

1621
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 1: do still stand out because there are certain players and

1622
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: you know who they kind of are, Murph. It's the

1623
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 1: players that's the marquee positions, the corners, quarterbacks, running backs,

1624
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 1: wide receivers and man edge rushers. Those guys that jump

1625
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: out when you watch a team play. Certainly, the Bills

1626
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: had a stellar defense a year ago, but they didn't

1627
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: have anybody getting twenty sacks, you know, or fifteen sacks.

1628
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 1: They had a lot of guys getting six or eight sacks. Right,

1629
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: and Jordan Phillips getting nine and a half and leading

1630
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: the team. Most of the guys on the team had

1631
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: like from four to seven sacks, you know, So it

1632
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: was a group effort that did it. But tradevious whitesher

1633
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 1: got noticed because that's a that's a position where there's

1634
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,879
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on there's a lot of pressure

1635
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: and you're by yourself a lot of the time, and

1636
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,840
Speaker 1: even when you're playing zone, you get targets at you.

1637
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 1: And he defended the past, So I'm totally with you.

1638
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 1: There is a sense that a good team gets recognized,

1639
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: but it does take a bunch of guys playing well

1640
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: to get good and the best guys off a good

1641
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: team are gonna get recognized. I'm kind of with him,

1642
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: and I think they both go hand in glove, because

1643
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 1: one great player is not gonna get your whole team recognized.

1644
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: Take a few phone calls in here about anything. Oh,

1645
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: you can talk about here's Mike calling from Virginia. We're

1646
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: in Virginia, are you, Mike? That's a fetish Burger John

1647
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: between Richmond and DC. Oh, okay, it's nice down there,

1648
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 1: nice weather, I bet huh. Yeah, we're about seventy degrees

1649
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: and a little perfect pros and Son not too bad perfect.

1650
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: What's on your mind today, Mike, Well, I got a

1651
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: question for you guys. When charlomcdermot was highed a few

1652
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 1: years ago, I remember Bill Polian saying that he thought

1653
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: he saw some similarities between McDermot and Marv Leevin. I

1654
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: just wing a few guys have seen anything very similar

1655
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: with those guys or do you think there's a that's

1656
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 1: a pretty good comparison with those two? Mark you on sight?

1657
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I've got some guests on it. I got

1658
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 1: a few initial thoughts off the top of my head.

1659
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: I think I think they both have the ability. I mean,

1660
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: they're they're different people and they're not a whole lot alike.

1661
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Marv obviously is professorial and maybe more academic

1662
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: than Sean, but they both I think have the ability

1663
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: to get guys to focus on what's important. And Steve

1664
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: can speak to this as a former player for Marv,

1665
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 1: but I think they know how to reach players. Are

1666
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: they players coaches a little bit? And maybe not what

1667
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: you think over the players coach, but they know how

1668
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: to reach players and get them thinking about what's really

1669
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 1: important and how to focus on what's really important and

1670
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 1: to try to tune out all the distractions. Marv may

1671
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 1: have had, you know, a couple of times when he

1672
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: wasn't able to do that, but for the most part,

1673
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: he had guys tuned into football. And I think that

1674
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: might be their greatest similarity. What do you think, Steve, Yeah,

1675
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 1: I think they are different, but they I think they're

1676
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 1: going and the way they achieve the success is the same.

1677
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: They go about in different ways. I think they both

1678
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 1: think one thing is important that the guys that are

1679
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 1: playing on that team have a strong sense of wanting

1680
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: to join up with their head coach. Guys want to

1681
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: play hard for Sean McDermott. He draws them in. People

1682
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: want to be on his team. He knows they've got

1683
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 1: they All the players know they've got a voice with

1684
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: him as head coach. All the players know that he's

1685
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 1: in it with them as head coach. All the players

1686
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: know that he is completely committed to their success as

1687
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: a team. Marv Levy exactly the same. He was the

1688
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: kind of guy, and he was an older guy when

1689
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: he got the job in Buffalo. He was fifty eight

1690
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 1: when he got the job. He was sixty what three

1691
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 1: or sixty two when they started, we started going to

1692
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: the Super Bowls. His ability to bridge that age gap

1693
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 1: between himself and most of his players. He did it

1694
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: by being the type of guy that we wanted to

1695
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: play hard for. We wanted to join up with him

1696
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: in his cause, we wanted to be the kind of

1697
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 1: player he wanted on his team. He would he had

1698
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: this thing where he would label us a certain thing,

1699
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 1: and we were. He was the kind of guy that

1700
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: made us want to live up to the label he

1701
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: put on us. You know. So I think both those

1702
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: coaches got their players, Marvin his era and Sean McDermott

1703
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: in this era to totally sell out to be a

1704
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: part of the team that that guy was forming as

1705
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: a head coach. And I think in that way they're

1706
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 1: exactly alike, even though there are vast differences in how

1707
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: they achieved those things. You know, when you talk about that, Steve,

1708
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: I have two questions for you. It reminds me of

1709
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: it was a Marv saying he had a million of them.

1710
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: But he said, you don't as a coach, You're not

1711
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: trying to get guys to follow you. You want them

1712
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: to join you. You kind of referred to that right,

1713
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: that's right, and I still use that today. I mean,

1714
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 1: if you're a player, and let's face it, these players

1715
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL and any no more so than they

1716
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: were back when I played. They're in it and it's

1717
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: a very physical and brutally demanding game in that man

1718
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: physically demanding, and it takes a strong personality, in a

1719
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 1: strong sense of affection and respect for players to want

1720
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: to put themselves through that at the behest of a

1721
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: guy they don't like, you know, or of a guy

1722
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: they don't respect. And give me an example. You mentioned

1723
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: something to seem about Mark would labeled you and then

1724
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 1: force you to live up to that. Can you give

1725
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: us an example? What are you? I'm not quite sure

1726
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: when we're talking about. Give you an idea? He goes.

1727
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: When we're in training camp one year, he says, listen, guys,

1728
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: where you're here in training camp? Most of you guys

1729
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 1: are here done, He goes, this is what we're doing.

1730
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put together a big, tough, physical football team.

1731
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: If you're not going to be tough and physical on

1732
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: my team, you're not gonna be here. The guys on

1733
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: my team are gonna be that. And so you knew

1734
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: from that moment on, as training camp went on and

1735
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: as the regular season went on, that was what was

1736
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: expected when the ball was kicked off. You had to

1737
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 1: have an ability to bring some emotional content, some physicality

1738
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,839
Speaker 1: to everything you did on the field. And I remember

1739
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: thinking this that I think it was midway through one

1740
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl years or whatever. On the cover

1741
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 1: of Sports Illustrated, the Bills were playing the Raiders, and

1742
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 1: it was a picture of and it was like big

1743
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: Bad Bills was the headline, the big bad Buffalo Bills,

1744
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: and it was Darryl Talley, Bruce Smith, Corney's been and

1745
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: they had Jay Schrader, the quarterback of the Raiders, twisted

1746
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: like a pretzel, grabbing his face mask, pulling it off

1747
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 1: his head. It was a brutal picture, but it was

1748
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: those guys living up to what Marv had labeled them

1749
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 1: early in the season, and that was the expectation, and

1750
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: we wanted to be that for him and we did. Hey, Mike,

1751
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: thanks for calling stay healthy. That's a really good question.

1752
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,520
Speaker 1: We've got a lot out of it. Thanks appreciated, gust

1753
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 1: Thank you. Hey, let me see this, Steven, Mike's got

1754
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: me thinking in your response. You know it would be

1755
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: really cool to get on our show someday, get Marv

1756
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott and have somebody just sort of a

1757
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 1: throw a couple of questions out there because I think this,

1758
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: and you may disagree. I do think, and all due

1759
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 1: respect to Marv, I bet the job is tougher now

1760
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: than it was when Marv coach twenty five years ago,

1761
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 1: because because of the time demands, because of you know,

1762
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: quite frankly, social media, the media demands in general, because

1763
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 1: of the various distractions, because of the money. I would guess,

1764
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: and I'd be interested in what they said, Marvin Sean,

1765
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 1: I would guess that the game is and the NFL

1766
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: is more difficult to coach now than it was when

1767
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: Marv coach. What do you think of that? I think

1768
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, difficult or less difficult, but certainly

1769
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty different. I think you can say the

1770
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: excess and those never changed, and that may be true,

1771
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 1: but I think more so than anything, there are much

1772
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: many more levels to the preparation of a football team

1773
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 1: in this day and age than there were when Marv

1774
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: was doing it. For about look at them any more.

1775
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: Assistant coaches, Sean has than Marv had. For one, I

1776
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 1: mean a bigger staff. Access to information. They have so

1777
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 1: much computer printouts of information, video access to video information.

1778
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 1: I just think there's more to get through. As a

1779
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: head coach. Yeah, analytics, play the playbook is different. It's

1780
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: all on surfaces now, the offseason workouts, the offseason workouts,

1781
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: the rules that you have to jump through, the tight

1782
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: scheduling and the organization and the ability to do all

1783
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: of what Marv Levy did in a much tighter window

1784
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: of time and and on the schedule. So yeah, it's

1785
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: a different job. It's the same job but done in

1786
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 1: with completely different constraints than what Marv Levy was under.

1787
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was it's any easier, but I'm

1788
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: telling you they have to cover a lot more bases

1789
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: now than they used to. I think, yep, I agree.

1790
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, we'll come back. We'll take more

1791
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: phone calls at eight three fifty and toll free one

1792
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,799
Speaker 1: eight five fifty fifty one Bills Live presented by Kalidah

1793
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 1: Health Radio Only. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome Back.

1794
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: One goes live Conversey, Steve Cancer Great co Sell coming

1795
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: up a little bit after two o'clock today and coming

1796
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: up around two thirty former Bills ten n Mark Campbell,

1797
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: who was recovering from COVID nineteen. That'll be interesting. Take

1798
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:28,640
Speaker 1: a few phone calls here. Let's go back to the

1799
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 1: phone line eight three five fifty toll free one eight

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01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty Jose in Raleigh,

1801
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: North Carolina. Right, Jose is the where are Yeah? Yeah,

1802
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 1: that's where we're at. But thanks, Hey Steve, I just

1803
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: want to tell you if I appreciate the memories of

1804
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: myself and five of my friends, we would live there

1805
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 1: at the football stadium there. You made it a pleasure

1806
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: every time you guys walked out. You and Pike just

1807
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 1: made it a pleasure. Every time we score a touchdown,

1808
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: kick a field goal, and special teams came out. You

1809
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: are You're awesome. Were so grateful that you are a

1810
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 1: Bill's player. But my question guys is, um, well, what

1811
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 1: would you guys think whatever happened to the days? Like

1812
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: a Jerome better sized running back? Earl Campbell's what do

1813
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 1: you guys think about? I would love us to draft

1814
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: a running back, not as the primary because I love

1815
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: singletary first, but somebody like a big size running back

1816
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 1: to help soften up the defense. So you know, you

1817
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,600
Speaker 1: get a third and fourth quarter. Would that help Singletary

1818
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 1: out that? Just like your opinion on that, guys, and

1819
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: I love the show and I appreciate what you guys do,

1820
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 1: especially what's going on today. Take care of guys. I'll listen.

1821
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 1: Thank you. We talked about a lot of running back.

1822
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 1: Steve Frank Gorey had one hundred and sixty carries last

1823
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: year and Devin Singletary had one hundred and fifty one.

1824
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: A lot of that because Devin was hurt at the

1825
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: start of the season and they didn't really warm up

1826
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: to him until the season moved along. I would draft

1827
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: a running back as long as they don't do it

1828
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 1: before the third round. What do you think of that? Well, yeah,

1829
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: whoever it is, And I get his point. It's nice

1830
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,679
Speaker 1: to have a guy who's big and big and fast

1831
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: like and and Derrick Henry with the run he put

1832
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 1: together at the end of last season, raised a lot

1833
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 1: of people's eyebrows and kind of got the casual fans

1834
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,560
Speaker 1: to say, you know what, I don't care if the

1835
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 1: guy can catch, hand him the ball and let him

1836
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: hammer those guys. You know, let's it's fun for a

1837
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 1: fan base, particularly when you're sitting in a stadium, to

1838
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: have that guy on your team and just watch your

1839
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 1: team methodically push the other team down the field. And

1840
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: it's fun and it gives you a sense of you know,

1841
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: a sense of strength about your team that you know

1842
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: they are invincible. And we used to say, I heard

1843
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 1: Frank Reich telling me this when we were playing on

1844
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 1: the sidelines of a game and we're sitting there and

1845
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: watching Thurman run and Frank looks at me and some

1846
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: of the other guys standing around he because I'm telling you, guys,

1847
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 1: if you can't stop the run, you have no defense.

1848
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 1: He goes, You're defenseless. You are absolutely defenseless if you

1849
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: can't stop the run. And he's right. So I don't

1850
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: have a problem getting a great, big running back using

1851
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: him in the way that the guy says, if you can.

1852
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 1: But first, let's face it, the Bills are gonna have

1853
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: score enough points to get a lead in the fourth

1854
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: quarter and then have the wherewithal to just keep handing

1855
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 1: it to that guy and trust that he's gonna get

1856
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: first downs. But man, it sure feels good when you

1857
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 1: can run the ball. When everybody knows you're gonna run

1858
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: it and you can still get first downs doing it.

1859
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 1: You know a guy who would fit the mold I

1860
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 1: think is we've talked about him before on the show.

1861
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: I think we talked about him with Greg Cosell, the

1862
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:29,320
Speaker 1: Boston College running back AJ Dillon, six foot tall, two

1863
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds, fast enough for six to five.

1864
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 1: You're not gonna win the track meet, but projectively going

1865
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 1: the third or fourth round. As long as they look

1866
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: I'm going into the season, I am, and I think

1867
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 1: the Bills are, and I think I read something more

1868
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: Brandon Bead said this going into the season with Devin

1869
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: Singletary as their workhorse, and they're gonna get him more

1870
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 1: than the carries he had last year and use him

1871
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 1: more than he did last year. So I'm not looking

1872
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: to replace him. I'm looking to compliment him a supplementary

1873
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: running back. That's all they think the Bills would be

1874
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: in the market for. Seat. Yeah, And I think it's

1875
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 1: interesting too, because I've gone we come back and forth, Murf.

1876
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna go to a break here pretty quick,

1877
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: but we go back and forth between do you want

1878
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,080
Speaker 1: a guy just like your top running back, so you

1879
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:09,560
Speaker 1: don't have to change any of your philosophy when he

1880
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 1: comes in. You can run every play that all the

1881
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 1: other ten guys have been practicing all week. Or do

1882
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,840
Speaker 1: you want a guy that's complimentary to him, something that

1883
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: the defense goes, all, right, now, what's this guy gonna do?

1884
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna run screen passes with this

1885
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 1: guy that kind of do you want that kind of thing?

1886
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 1: And I you can make an argument for both, but

1887
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 1: I know this. If you they want in every position group,

1888
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: they want a veteran guy in the room. If T.

1889
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 1: T Y or T J. Yelden can be the veteran guy, fine,

1890
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 1: that's great because he's been on the team, he knows it,

1891
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 1: he's been in the pros for quite a while. Maybe

1892
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: he can show these guys how it's done without being

1893
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 1: a real contributor on Sundays offensively. But here's the thing.

1894
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,600
Speaker 1: If you have two different guys like Devin Singletary and

1895
01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: this guy aj Dillon, you give yourself two different facts

1896
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 1: that on any given Sunday, one or the other of

1897
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 1: them could be running better than the other. And for me,

1898
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't care who the bell cow is, but whoever's

1899
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 1: having the most success is going to get the ball.

1900
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 1: We saw it last year and that's how it changed

1901
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 1: from Frank Gore to Devin Singletary. Devin just started running better. Well,

1902
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 1: Gore wasn't running well at all, right, so Devin and

1903
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know what, It took him

1904
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: about two seconds to make the move from Frank Gore

1905
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 1: to Devin Singletary and all of a sudden, now Devin

1906
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 1: Singletary is the running back and Frank Gore's his compliment.

1907
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: So I don't care who the guy is. But maybe

1908
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 1: going with a completely different type back than Devin Singletary

1909
01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:40,800
Speaker 1: gives you the option on any given day when Devin

1910
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: Singletary cannot get it, going a different way to do

1911
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 1: it that is more successful with the guy who's really

1912
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 1: good at doing it, you know. And I hope I

1913
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 1: said that clear enough, because I think that is where

1914
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,600
Speaker 1: you want to be. Whoever's the best is going to

1915
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 1: get the ball. And I don't You don't owe anybody carries.

1916
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: You only owe them carries when they been getting five

1917
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 1: yards a crack. You keep giving him the ball, that's

1918
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 1: when you owe him carries. Can't argue with that all right,

1919
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 1: we are two weeks away officially today from the NFL Draft,

1920
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: and what a different draft it will be. But it's

1921
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 1: still about player evaluation. And we got one of the

1922
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 1: best coming up next on the show. Greg co Sal,

1923
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: Executive producer, analyst of NFL Matchup on ESPN, Senior producer

1924
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 1: at NFL Films, Great co Sal. When we return One

1925
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalaida Health from radio only today

1926
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 1: from our homes and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. You

1927
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 1: got the update from One Bills Live today and it's

1928
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 1: quiet day in the world of sports. We should make

1929
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:46,839
Speaker 1: note of the Jalen Ramsey Turdevious White story. Ramsey hosted

1930
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 1: several defensive backs in an Instagram live video last night,

1931
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 1: including Turdevious White. Jalen Ramsey said he told Turdevious until

1932
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: he leaves Buffalo, he will never get respect around the NFL.

1933
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 1: Rams He turned to Beck says he loves playing for

1934
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,560
Speaker 1: the Bills, loves the fan. Aj Green, who did not

1935
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: play a single snap last season for the Cincinnati Bengals

1936
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 1: due to an ankle injury, he is positive now ready

1937
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 1: to go, according to his coach, Zach Taylor. Taylor told

1938
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 1: the athletic AJ Green is fully healthy, working hard in Atlanta.

1939
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 1: It's been all positive. His health has been an issue

1940
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: for more than a year. Miss Dalla last year. The

1941
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: thirty one year old wide receiver miss seven games in

1942
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen due to injury. Former Rams players Todd Gurley

1943
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 1: and Clay Matthews have tweeted that the team is behind

1944
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: on their paychecks. Rams NFL pass due, send the money asap,

1945
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:36,799
Speaker 1: Gurley wrote in a tweet Wednesday, backed up by Clay Matthews,

1946
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:40,439
Speaker 1: former Rams linebacker. They were both released back on March nineteenth.

1947
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 1: Gurley signed a one year, five and a half million

1948
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:45,880
Speaker 1: dollar contract with the Atlanta Falcons this week. Matthews remains

1949
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent. The Rams say they think they're

1950
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: in full compliance with the language and the players contracts.

1951
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 1: Charlotte Panthers coach Matt Rule said last night during a

1952
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 1: video conference, it was the best thing for our team

1953
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 1: to move on from quarterback Cam Newton and move forward

1954
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 1: with Teddy Bridgewater. Rule expressed appreciation for what Newton did

1955
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: for the Panthers organization since he was the first pick

1956
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,719
Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, but in his first comments since Newton

1957
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 1: was released last month rule indicated the decision had less

1958
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 1: to do with Newton's health and more to do with

1959
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:19,839
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater being a better fit for what offensive coordinator

1960
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 1: Joe Brady wants to accomplish. And there you go. That

1961
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: is the update from one Bill's Line. John Murphy and

1962
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,720
Speaker 1: Steam Tansker Company from our homes today, Happy to be

1963
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: with you here for another hour or so and joining

1964
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:34,640
Speaker 1: us on the line right now our next guest analysts

1965
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 1: and executive producer for an NFL matchup on ESPN. Senior

1966
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 1: producer at NFL Films. Happy to have great co sell

1967
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: on the line with us. Hello, Greg, how are you doing?

1968
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 1: Murf Steve, Hey, you guys doing great? You're doing okay? Yeah,

1969
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: and you're holding up okay down there in the Philadelphia

1970
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: area where you are, everything's cool, holding up okay, you know,

1971
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: taking some walks and that's about it other than that,

1972
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 1: I know, having left my house, you are known, Greg,

1973
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 1: and why the renowned as a draft expert, a talent expert.

1974
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 1: Watching the video that you do, tell us and our

1975
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 1: listeners how much that has been affected by the quarantine orders.

1976
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,640
Speaker 1: You're not able to watch as much video? Really, are you? No?

1977
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm not unfortunately, And it's uh, you know, like I've

1978
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 1: told a lot of people in the overall scheme of things,

1979
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, my little problem watching video is not really important,

1980
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: but I just haven't been able to do what I

1981
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:27,400
Speaker 1: normally can do. See. I live five minutes from NFL Film,

1982
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 1: so I go in the office all the time. I've

1983
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 1: almost made it kind of a thing in my life

1984
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 1: that I don't really work at home. So even if

1985
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 1: I work seven days a week, I'm five minutes away

1986
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 1: and it's easy. So you know, I'm not really in

1987
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: a position where I can do that much at home.

1988
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 1: So I'd probably missed some guys. But normally I get

1989
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 1: through on two hundred and fifty college players. I've probably

1990
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: only done about one hundred and twenty this year. Okay,

1991
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: well that gets you through three rounds or more. Right,

1992
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 1: We've been We've been talking to you, you know, off

1993
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 1: and on week by week, and it has gotten a

1994
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,080
Speaker 1: little different, a little bit more difficult as we've groved on.

1995
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 1: We've gone through a ton of them, and now we

1996
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:06,719
Speaker 1: thought we'd just land and seeing as how the Bills

1997
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,560
Speaker 1: were close to the draft now, but the position that

1998
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 1: always is at the top of the draft is always

1999
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 1: inflated as the quarterback position. The Bills have got their guy,

2000
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 1: A lot of teams do and there's some teams that don't.

2001
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 1: And this seems to be another year where quarterbacks there

2002
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 1: might be maybe a couple of guys that can be really,

2003
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 1: really quality starters. First, I got to ask you, how

2004
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: hard is it? And why do teams miss so badly

2005
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 1: on these guys? You know, I guess that's a hard question.

2006
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean what I do, and rarely do I get

2007
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 1: an opportunity to sit and talk with these players. You know,

2008
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 1: I meet a few here and there, but I don't

2009
01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 1: necessarily get to do that part of the equation. I know,

2010
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 1: when I look at a quarterback on tape, I'm purely

2011
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 1: looking at traits, attributes, characteristics, and then hopefully with my

2012
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 1: understanding of the NFL game because of what I do

2013
01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 1: with NFL matchup for seven to eight months, I try

2014
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 1: to project and transition the quarterbacks to the league. But

2015
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: I will say this, there's very few quarterbacks that talent

2016
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 1: and skill wise are scheme transcendent. So every quarterback is

2017
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: a system quarterback pretty much. So, it's so many variables

2018
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 1: go into a quarterback success or failure in the NFL scheme,

2019
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: coaching development, players around him, the rest of the team.

2020
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 1: So there's many, many more variables than just an analysis

2021
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: and evaluation of the particular player. Now you must start there, obviously,

2022
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: but then there are so many other factors and variables

2023
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 1: in play. Greg ko Seller guest Greg. Back in the days,

2024
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 1: if we can all remember when the bills around the

2025
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 1: lookout for a quarterback. Not that long ago really, but

2026
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 1: the stat was out there that every other first round

2027
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 1: quarterback selection turns out to be a US First of all,

2028
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 1: is that step true? And is that different than other

2029
01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 1: position groups? Do you think? You know? My guess is

2030
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:12,720
Speaker 1: it's probably pretty close to most position groups. I'm just

2031
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:15,080
Speaker 1: thinking off the top of my head here. It's just

2032
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:18,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks very visible, and those players tend to get dressed

2033
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,680
Speaker 1: at higher So you know, look this year, where what

2034
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 1: are we looking at? If all goes the way? Some

2035
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:28,640
Speaker 1: are predicting and I'm not a predictor, or are the

2036
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 1: better way to say that a guesser? I'm not a guesser,

2037
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:36,520
Speaker 1: but you would assume that Burrow, Tua, Herbert and possibly

2038
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,719
Speaker 1: Love are going to be gone? And what the top fifteen,

2039
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: maybe even top twelve or so, So again you're going

2040
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 1: to see another year where quarterbacks go high. Certainly the

2041
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: first three names that I mentioned are likely to be

2042
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 1: gone in the first six or seven. Yeah, I was

2043
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 1: going to ask you, or is there a kind of

2044
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:58,759
Speaker 1: higher There always is, I guess, But given just looking

2045
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 1: at traits, are there? Is there somebody or two or three?

2046
01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 1: Or is it the four names you mentioned? Joe Burrow, two,

2047
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 1: A TAGAVALOA Justin Herbert, maybe Jordan Love or whoever? Else?

2048
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 1: Are there elite guys elite draft prospects because of their

2049
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 1: traits and then everybody else falls in line behind those guys?

2050
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 1: And who are they? And I think that that's a

2051
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: question that is often in the eye of the beholder.

2052
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: You know, it depends on what traits you highly value

2053
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: and what traits you push a little bit further down.

2054
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I would look, Joe Burrow does not have

2055
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 1: a big arm. Joe Burrow does not have what people

2056
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 1: would say as higher level arm strength. But I would

2057
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 1: argue that, based on my film study, that he pretty

2058
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: much has every other trait an attribute that you would

2059
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 1: look for in a quarterback to transition and play well

2060
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL with a chance to be a really

2061
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 1: high level quarterback. But some might look at arm strength

2062
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:01,599
Speaker 1: and then put that trade higher on their list. Someone

2063
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 1: might look at Herbert from Oregon and say, wow, he

2064
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 1: is really gifted. He's big, he's physical, he's athletic, he's

2065
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: got a big, strong arm, which then leads people to

2066
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 1: believe he can make every throw and they might say, wow,

2067
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:17,720
Speaker 1: he's got every trait you need. Others then might look

2068
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 1: at Herbert and say, well, he's not as consistently accurate

2069
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:24,560
Speaker 1: as you like. He doesn't show a great sense of anticipation.

2070
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,520
Speaker 1: He's much more of a see it throw at quarterback.

2071
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 1: So you have to decide how you value traits and

2072
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 1: what that means for then your scheme and your system.

2073
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 1: Bybe with Greg Cosell, Analysts executive producer, NFL Matchup on

2074
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 1: the ESPN. We're talking some quarterbacks today. Burrow is the

2075
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:45,680
Speaker 1: consensus number one. Does he go to Cincinnati or I

2076
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 1: keep reading stuff that the Dolphins will put together a

2077
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 1: package to get that number one pick and get Joe Burrow,

2078
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 1: and I get thinking, Greg, maybe you can answer this,

2079
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: is he the type of quarterback that would merit a

2080
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 1: big trade up, a huge commitment by a team to

2081
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: go up and get him. Joe Burre, what do you think? Well,

2082
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 1: I like Borrow a lot. I think that he's that

2083
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,679
Speaker 1: kind of guy. See. The reason I think some people

2084
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 1: may struggle, and again I don't know what other people think,

2085
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: but they may struggle is because he just does not

2086
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 1: have that arm. You don't look at Borrow the way

2087
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 1: he throws it and go, wow, boy, that guy really

2088
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 1: throws it. And I think a lot of people like

2089
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:24,599
Speaker 1: to feel that a guy taken high is a guy

2090
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 1: that you look at his throwing ability and you go,

2091
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 1: your boy, that guy's a great thrower. But Burrow is

2092
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:32,519
Speaker 1: an easy thrower, and he's a very poised, composed and

2093
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:36,479
Speaker 1: relaxed player, and he has really good vision. He plays

2094
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 1: with really good timing. He's very efficient in what he does.

2095
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:43,799
Speaker 1: He's very precise with his ball placement and ball location,

2096
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,799
Speaker 1: and that's a critical trait. And he has this ability

2097
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 1: to slide and move both within the pocket and outside

2098
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 1: the pocket that I think is very very high level.

2099
01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 1: So to me, with the exception of higher level arm strength,

2100
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 1: I think Borrow is a really really good prospect. And

2101
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 1: to me, put in perspective, how he won the Heisman

2102
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 1: and how he explode. I mean, he kind of had

2103
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 1: this one last year that I kind of exploded onto

2104
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 1: the scene. Can you put into perspective statistic wise or

2105
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: anyway other way you want. Obviously won the national championship.

2106
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 1: How good did he play this last year? Because all

2107
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 1: I hear I'm not a college football guys per se,

2108
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 1: but all I hear about is it was some sort

2109
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 1: of a transcendent season this last year. Why was he

2110
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: able to do that without a big arm? Well, his

2111
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 1: arm is good enough, you know. I think that when

2112
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 1: you play with a really strong sense of timing, when

2113
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 1: you're really accurate, and when you have movement ability, and

2114
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 1: movement ability encompasses both moving with in the pocket, which

2115
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: I think is a critical trade, and then his ability

2116
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:54,440
Speaker 1: to move outside the pocket. I think you can compensate

2117
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 1: for the fact that you don't have a big arm.

2118
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 1: There's not that many throws in the way the game

2119
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 1: has evolved, Steve, and I know you know this. There's

2120
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:07,240
Speaker 1: not that many throws that require just to drive the

2121
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 1: football with tremendous velocity. There are some throws in every

2122
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 1: game that are like that. Yeah, it depends on the game,

2123
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,600
Speaker 1: but I don't think the game is built like that

2124
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 1: the way it used to be. And the thing is

2125
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,960
Speaker 1: he did play for a coach Joe Brady this year,

2126
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator who's now the offensive coordinator for the

2127
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers and who was with the Saints prior to LSU.

2128
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: And I made a note of this when I was

2129
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 1: watching him. There were a lot of vertical pass game

2130
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:37,560
Speaker 1: concepts in LSU's offense. Double post crossers, dagger, which is

2131
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 1: a post a go in a dig route. They had

2132
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 1: a lot of vertical route concepts, and he made those

2133
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:49,799
Speaker 1: throws because a lot of those those are timing throws.

2134
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,800
Speaker 1: You know, quarterbacks are not really asked anymore to take

2135
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 1: seven step drops, sit in the pocket and throw a

2136
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 1: sixty yards down the field. You don't really see that

2137
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Well Live with Greig co Sal, Senior producer,

2138
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 1: NFL Films, let's talk about another quarterback to Tago Vaeloa.

2139
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: I keep reading, and actually this morning Greg read I

2140
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 1: think it was Mike Lombardi talking about not just his

2141
01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:15,360
Speaker 1: hip injury from last year, but a laundry list of injuries.

2142
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 1: Mike Lombardi referred to him as being brittle and kind

2143
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 1: of indicated that that's the sort of thing that will

2144
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,439
Speaker 1: hold him back a little bit. Have you heard that?

2145
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,600
Speaker 1: Do you see that? What kind of a quarterback is

2146
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: two of you? Well, you know when I evaluate two again.

2147
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 1: Obviously he's had two ankle surgeries, he had the hip surgery.

2148
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 1: I don't know what else is out there. Teams will

2149
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 1: know that based on their research. I just try to

2150
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 1: evaluate the player, and I think I like to. I

2151
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 1: don't think he's quite as good a prospect as Burrow,

2152
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 1: but I like to. My feeling is that he's at

2153
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 1: his best as a timing rhythm player. He's got really quick,

2154
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 1: twitchy feet on his drop, and he has really good

2155
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 1: paul to his ball position. He's got an efficient, compact delivery.

2156
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 1: He showed the ability to quicken his feet on his

2157
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 1: drop when he had to. He's more of a touch

2158
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 1: and pace thrower than a drive, power throw or another

2159
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 1: guy that does not have a big arm. I would

2160
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:12,719
Speaker 1: say he's got a really good feel in the short

2161
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:17,719
Speaker 1: intermediate pass game. At times, he showed a playmaking dimension

2162
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:20,600
Speaker 1: to his game, making plays outside of structure. I'm not

2163
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: sure how that will translate to the NFL. There were

2164
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 1: a lot of times where he was dragged down by

2165
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 1: college defensive players, So I'm curious about that. At times

2166
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 1: he's a little bit of a pusher with his delivery

2167
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 1: and that limits velocity. And there were times his deep

2168
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 1: ball showed a tendency to lose energy on the back end.

2169
01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 1: But if you get him in there, and again I

2170
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:44,400
Speaker 1: get back to the system quarterback, if you get him

2171
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 1: in the right system, timing, rhythm based system. You know,

2172
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 1: think of what John Peyton does with Drew Brees. That

2173
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 1: kind of system. I think too, it can be a

2174
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 1: really effective NFL quarterback. Well, we know too that Joe Burrow.

2175
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 1: We've spoken about him earlier. He's probably or theoretically gonna

2176
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 1: be the top player picked because of all the intangrals,

2177
01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 1: not his arm and two a tag of Byloe. Most

2178
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 1: of us have seen him just because he played at

2179
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 1: Alabama was the National Championship Games. What about the other

2180
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 1: guys that most of us here on the East Coast

2181
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:17,360
Speaker 1: don't know about, Like Justin Herbert tell us about the

2182
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: prospect there from I guess he's from Oregon. He's from Oregon,

2183
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:24,599
Speaker 1: and he's a guy that, like I said, people will

2184
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 1: get excited about his traits because you're talking about a big,

2185
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:32,040
Speaker 1: athletic quarterback with a strong, powerful arm and excellent movement.

2186
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 1: So he's got size arm stream, he's got that movement.

2187
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:41,600
Speaker 1: In some ways, he's like Josh Allen. There are concerns

2188
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 1: about his ability to be consistently accurate. There are concerns

2189
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 1: about his ability to throw with timing. You know, without

2190
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 1: going into detail, there were certain basic route concepts that

2191
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,560
Speaker 1: everybody has. Would he'd be late on throws, and in

2192
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 1: college he would sometimes complete those balls, but you have

2193
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,640
Speaker 1: to take that into account then when you evaluate him

2194
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 1: that in the NFL, and you know this Steve. When

2195
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 1: you're late on throws, that's a problem. So people will

2196
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 1: get excited just about the size, the athleticism, the arm strength.

2197
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: But I think there are some concerns with Justin Herbert.

2198
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 1: And I think in many ways, like Josh Allen, if

2199
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 1: he were to play early in his career, and if

2200
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,320
Speaker 1: he's drafted in the top ten, he will play early

2201
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 1: in his career, He's going to need to be on

2202
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 1: a team that features a good defense to a solid

2203
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:34,600
Speaker 1: run game in many ways, like Josh and otherwise, you know,

2204
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: if Herbert's on a team where they expect him to

2205
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,679
Speaker 1: go out and put up twenty eight thirty points every

2206
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:42,439
Speaker 1: week and be a sixty five sixty eight percent completion guy.

2207
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:46,719
Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. With Greg Cosell talking about

2208
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this year's draft, you mentioned Jordan love of

2209
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 1: you taught State as a possible first round here. What

2210
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:54,400
Speaker 1: about him, Greg, And he's kind of a guy who's

2211
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 1: coming on late, I guess in the draft valuation process. Well,

2212
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. I watched him at summer and

2213
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 1: he had a really good year numbers wise, last year,

2214
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:05,560
Speaker 1: and I thought after watching him last summer that with

2215
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 1: normal progression, he'd be a top ten pick in the draft.

2216
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,960
Speaker 1: And he may still be this year. The numbers weren't

2217
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 1: as good and there were a few concerns, but there's

2218
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 1: so many things about his traits and attributes that really

2219
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 1: stand out in a positive way. You know, he's almost

2220
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 1: six four, he's two hundred and twenty four pounds. He's athletic,

2221
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 1: he can be an over the top thrower. He's got

2222
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: a smooth he's a smooth natural thrower with a very

2223
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 1: easy delivery. He can make any throw. He can throw

2224
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 1: with pace and touch. He's got movement ability. So there's

2225
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 1: a lot to like about Jordan Love and I think

2226
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 1: he's a guy. Again, now you get into those variables

2227
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 1: I spoke about. He needs to be coached hard. He

2228
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 1: needs to be coached to work through some of his

2229
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 1: issues which involve lower body mechanics. He did at time

2230
01:50:55,720 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 1: struggle to locate underneath defenders in his own coverage, certain

2231
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 1: things that he clearly needs to work on. But you'll

2232
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 1: look at the traits and like I would argue, and again,

2233
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 1: traits don't automatically make you a great quarterback. We know that,

2234
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:13,679
Speaker 1: but I think his traits are better than twoist traits.

2235
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 1: But we'll see how it plays out depending on where

2236
01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:20,400
Speaker 1: they go in the draft. So you know, we've gone

2237
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:22,040
Speaker 1: down the list of about four or five from and

2238
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:25,519
Speaker 1: half a dozen guys, and you're getting into then guys

2239
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 1: who are under the radar. And you know, as all

2240
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 1: of us here in western New York in Buffalo Bill's Land,

2241
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 1: no you know, a fifth or sixth round draft pick

2242
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:38,280
Speaker 1: can turn into the goat. So is there any of

2243
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 1: these guys that are off our radar? They're going to

2244
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 1: go late, and if they go to the right place

2245
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 1: or if they have the right motivation, could maybe be

2246
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,719
Speaker 1: a guy like well, for instance, like a Kirk Cousins,

2247
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 1: a fourth round guy who hung in there and when

2248
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 1: he did get on the field, he was accurate enough

2249
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:55,760
Speaker 1: and smart enough to make a career for himself. He's

2250
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 1: the highest paid guy ever. Maybe, so are there guys

2251
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 1: like that under the radar. I know you've got a

2252
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,639
Speaker 1: long probably a long list of guys you've evaluated. Yeah,

2253
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 1: I think I've watched twelve or thirteen quarterbacks in detail,

2254
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 1: and and you know, you just hit on something, Steve.

2255
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 1: That that is the point I've been trying to make,

2256
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 1: and that you know, sometimes I think people forget is

2257
01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 1: there's the variables factor. You know, what kind of offense

2258
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 1: do you run? You know, we saw Cousins now in Minnesota,

2259
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:21,640
Speaker 1: perfect example. The run games the starting point, and then

2260
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 1: you have the play action pass game. That's the kind

2261
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 1: of quarterback Kirk Cousins is. So it plays to what

2262
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:30,080
Speaker 1: he can do. So you start getting into those situations.

2263
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 1: Now as you go down the list a little, the

2264
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: guy who probably fascinates me the most, and I tweeted

2265
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 1: it out today if people want to take a look,

2266
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 1: I tweeted our two quarterbacks my evaluations. One was Jacob

2267
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 1: Eeson from the University of Washington, who began his career

2268
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 1: at Georgia. He was the top pocket quarterback coming out

2269
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: of the Seattle area when he came out of high school.

2270
01:52:50,479 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 1: Another big kid ball comes out so easily. You know,

2271
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 1: in some ways he'll remind people he's a little bit

2272
01:52:56,920 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 1: old school. You think of a Drew bledsoe think of

2273
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 1: a Carson Palmer. Now I don't think he's quite those guys,

2274
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 1: but he's that kind of prospect. So now you're getting

2275
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 1: into the kind of coach and scheme that you'll have

2276
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:15,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL because he's one of those big, long quarterbacks.

2277
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:18,759
Speaker 1: Not a statue but certainly not athletic. He's a pocket

2278
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 1: quarterback and he can make throws, and he looks real

2279
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 1: good in making throws. He really does. But then you

2280
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 1: have other questions that you have. How will he handle

2281
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:31,480
Speaker 1: pressure if he could seat it up consistently by NFL defenses,

2282
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 1: he has to more effectively learn how to sort of

2283
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 1: step up in the pocket, which is critical for pocket quarterbacks.

2284
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:40,640
Speaker 1: He has a bad tendency to spin out of the

2285
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:43,760
Speaker 1: pocket to his left and backwards. You can't do that

2286
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So there's things clearly that he needs

2287
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 1: to work on. But if you just watch him throw

2288
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 1: a football, I mean, to me, he's even smoother than Herbert.

2289
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,679
Speaker 1: It just boy does it come out of his hand beautifully. Hey, Greg,

2290
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 1: the draft first round two weeks from today, Well we

2291
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 1: I mean it's a different year obviously, and there's no

2292
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:05,439
Speaker 1: player visits to teams and no pro dates. Well we

2293
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 1: get the same kind of hype about these quarterbacks that

2294
01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 1: we typically begin around the draft in the last couple

2295
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 1: of weeks. Probably not, you know, I think just because

2296
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, you're not seeing as much TV. I mean,

2297
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,560
Speaker 1: obviously the net certain networks are trying to do what

2298
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 1: they do with people in their homes like we are,

2299
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 1: but it's just not quite the same. So and obviously

2300
01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 1: these guys can't be interviewed quite as much. It's just

2301
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 1: it's more difficult. So you're just not seeing them as much.

2302
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 1: They're not out there, and people are more concerned right

2303
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 1: now about other things. I mean, yes, when the draft

2304
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 1: does come, people want to know who gets drafted, but

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01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: it's going to be a different event this year as well,

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01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 1: So you know, I just I think that the hype factor,

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01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 1: other than the top few, has not really been there

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01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 1: the way it normally is. Yeah, it'll be fun. We'll

2309
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:53,920
Speaker 1: get there and it'll be fun either way. Right, Great,

2310
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:56,080
Speaker 1: I hope. Oh, I'm looking forward to it. I mean

2311
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's we're just trying to get to

2312
01:54:59,160 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: every day, you know. But the draft is two weeks

2313
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 1: from today, right, so I'm looking Yeah, I'm definitely look

2314
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 1: forward to it. Thanks Greg hanging there. Appreciate you two

2315
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 1: guys to be safe. Thanks Greg Gocell, Executive producer analysts

2316
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 1: of NFL Matchup on ESPN, Senior producer at NFL Films.

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01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 1: We thank every joining us. Yeah, the draft exactly two

2318
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 1: weeks from today. Round one two weeks from today. Bills

2319
01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 1: not involved till round two as we stand today, coming

2320
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 1: up after the break, Mark Campbell, former Bills tight end,

2321
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 1: played here in the early two thousands, and he suffered

2322
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 1: from coronavirus. We'll talk with him while we survived that.

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01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 1: Now he's doing Mark Campbell when we return here on

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01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 1: the show One Bills Live, presented by KLADA Health Radio

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01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:47,800
Speaker 1: only on Buffalo Bills Radio row them along with the

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01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 1: show John Murphy at My Home See Caskers at his Home.

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01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 1: Radio only Today One goes Live presented by Kalaida Health.

2328
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 1: We read about the story earlier this week. A lot

2329
01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 1: of people have former Bills tight end Mark Campbell suffering

2330
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 1: from COVID nineteen. He played ten seasons in the NFL

2331
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 1: with the Browns, the Bills, and the New Orleans Saints.

2332
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 1: About three years with the Bills, and Mark Campbell is

2333
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 1: on the line with a slide from his home in Michigan.

2334
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 1: He well Mark, John Murphy and Steve tansk Gery in Buffalo.

2335
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 1: How are you doing? How are you feeling? Oh, Murph path,

2336
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 1: It's good to hear your guys as a voice. M

2337
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,960
Speaker 1: I'm feeling uh man, I'm feeling pretty good now. Um,

2338
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 1: you know I'm about and the ten percent is just man,

2339
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:32,120
Speaker 1: I've run out of gas pretty quickly. And you know

2340
01:56:32,240 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 1: my lungs. You know, part of the you know this

2341
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen is once it gets into your lungs, I mean,

2342
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 1: it's it's pneumonia, right, so you just recover a little

2343
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 1: quicker from it. So I'm recovering from that. I mean

2344
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't go out for a job right now with

2345
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:47,480
Speaker 1: really hupping and plopping, but I could walk the dog.

2346
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 1: And what does the full duration? When did you realize

2347
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 1: you had it? Or when did you start feeling bad?

2348
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 1: And how long until this point? Yeah, so when it's

2349
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 1: all said and done, you know, with quarantine, because the

2350
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 1: safe answer is fourteen days. Right, it's always the medical

2351
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 1: professional that's kind of their safe answer because nobody knows

2352
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 1: how long will contageous At this point, man, it's going

2353
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 1: to be about thirty days of quarantine. Yeah. Wow, Hey,

2354
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,040
Speaker 1: Mark coll me, it's this. You're a little bit younger

2355
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 1: than me, and I think Steve in fact and I

2356
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 1: wonder I read every article in the paper that says,

2357
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 1: how do you know if you have a coronavirus? What

2358
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 1: does it feel like? When? When at the onset? I mean,

2359
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 1: do you did you know you had it right away?

2360
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 1: Did you feel I just got a cold? Here? Well

2361
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 1: it's surreal, right, I'm like, I'm not the guy getting

2362
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 1: it because at that time, it's not like everybody you

2363
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 1: know there wasn't like now the numbers have really dramatically grown.

2364
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 1: At that time, I'm like, I'm not the guy getting

2365
01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 1: the coronavirus. I'm young, I'm healthy. I still work out

2366
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 1: all the time, you know, five or six days a week.

2367
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 1: It ain't happening to me, Well, this thing, whether you're

2368
01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 1: whether you're young, old, healthy or not, it didn't matter,

2369
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 1: you know. So you know, did I know I had it? No?

2370
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:07,680
Speaker 1: I was actually joking with my life my wife Michelle.

2371
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I feel like, I said, I

2372
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 1: got the coronavirus. Man, I feel like I got a fever.

2373
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:14,960
Speaker 1: And I was just kind of messing with her. So

2374
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:16,760
Speaker 1: I actually took my temperature and it was one or

2375
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 1: two point six. So I did what any you know

2376
01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:24,800
Speaker 1: guy would do. I said, I'll watch a movie and

2377
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 1: I see if this wears off. Well it didn't. Yeah, right, yeah,

2378
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:33,320
Speaker 1: and you at one point, he said, and gratefully so,

2379
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 1: and you said it was really a little difficult to

2380
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 1: get tested because you had to be far enough down

2381
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 1: the road because at that time and maybe still, there

2382
01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 1: weren't enough tests to go around. So they really wanted

2383
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 1: to be sure that there was a possibility you had

2384
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:52,400
Speaker 1: it before they wasted quote unquote a test on you. Correct. Yeah. Yeah,

2385
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 1: So it's an interesting part about this, right, So sidebar

2386
01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:58,960
Speaker 1: from all this. You know, I'm a small business owner

2387
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:03,320
Speaker 1: and you have a partner, Troy Evans and doctor Lamb's Benedict, right,

2388
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 1: and so one of the things that we have is

2389
01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 1: we have two molecular testing laboratories. So the interesting part

2390
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 1: about that is, I know the tests should take twenty

2391
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 1: four hours to get a response, and there's plenty of

2392
01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 1: laboratories like ours that could support this. But the kind

2393
01:59:22,240 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 1: of unfortunate situation about it's real life, it's whatever, it's business.

2394
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 1: You know, the big the big testing facilities like you know,

2395
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 1: Quest Lab and lab Corps. You know, they have basically

2396
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:38,440
Speaker 1: monopolized the market with all of the state funding. Right,

2397
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 1: so even though there's all these labs like mine that

2398
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:44,320
Speaker 1: could help, it didn't really matter. You know, it had

2399
01:59:44,360 --> 01:59:48,000
Speaker 1: to go through the state and through them, and it's

2400
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:50,960
Speaker 1: it ended up taking nearly five days for me to

2401
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 1: get my test results. What stinks because I know it

2402
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:56,080
Speaker 1: should be twenty four hours. And when you're going through

2403
01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 1: this whole thing, you know, as the patient, you know,

2404
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:02,880
Speaker 1: going this whole thing, you know you want to know

2405
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:06,280
Speaker 1: and if if, if you have it or not, because truthfully,

2406
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 1: I would have treated this differently. Um, you know, I

2407
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 1: treated like man. I mean, you guys know Steve, you know,

2408
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:16,240
Speaker 1: it's like we got a football mindset. We're grinders, right,

2409
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 1: we pushed through anything and everything. Well, I sat in

2410
02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:23,040
Speaker 1: my house for twelve days, pushing through a fever always

2411
02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 1: above one on one and all the other symptoms right,

2412
02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:28,880
Speaker 1: dry coughs and everything else, thinking hey, I'm gonna turn

2413
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:32,000
Speaker 1: the corner. Well, the truth is is I probably should

2414
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:34,880
Speaker 1: have went to the hospital about five days earlier and

2415
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:38,120
Speaker 1: probably saved a lot of you know, pain and heartache

2416
02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:40,720
Speaker 1: in my life. But you know, live and learn. I guess,

2417
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:43,800
Speaker 1: how are you doing now? Mark? You're I don't know

2418
02:00:43,800 --> 02:00:45,760
Speaker 1: if it's remission is the right term, but you're you're

2419
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 1: you're getting better, as you said healthy. Does it go away?

2420
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:53,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not feel it anymore? Yeah, so you know, Okay.

2421
02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:56,120
Speaker 1: So when I was in the hospital, you know, it

2422
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:59,200
Speaker 1: was I was there for five days, and when I

2423
02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 1: went in, I was in rough shape, man, flat out.

2424
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:04,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you guys, Throughout this entire process, there was

2425
02:01:04,360 --> 02:01:07,839
Speaker 1: about a twenty four hour span where I was concerned

2426
02:01:07,920 --> 02:01:11,600
Speaker 1: And if maybe I'm dramatizing, but that's how I felt

2427
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 1: at the time, where I was actually concerned, like, oh man,

2428
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:17,160
Speaker 1: I am I going to get through this um you know,

2429
02:01:17,280 --> 02:01:19,200
Speaker 1: which was a little rough because we just didn't have

2430
02:01:19,240 --> 02:01:22,600
Speaker 1: a lot of information about it. With all that being said,

2431
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:26,280
Speaker 1: they prescribed me that malaria drug at the brand name

2432
02:01:26,440 --> 02:01:29,360
Speaker 1: is called Plaque Winnel, and I feel like that was

2433
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 1: the difference maker for me. And within like three days

2434
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 1: of receiving that, I felt pretty good. By the time

2435
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:38,240
Speaker 1: I left the hospital, I didn't feel great, but I

2436
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:40,800
Speaker 1: felt okay, you know, and I was certainly happy to

2437
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:44,440
Speaker 1: go home. Right. But yeah, I mean when when where

2438
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:47,240
Speaker 1: I sit today, I feel pretty good, man. I mean

2439
02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm still in quarantine, which stinks, but I feel pretty good.

2440
02:01:51,320 --> 02:01:53,160
Speaker 1: And you could tell by my voice, you know, I

2441
02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:55,840
Speaker 1: have some energy. Like I said, you know earlier, I

2442
02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:58,640
Speaker 1: just kind of run out of gas quick and uh

2443
02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 1: don't have any lung compath city. And when I heard

2444
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:04,840
Speaker 1: read the article was said, you were they you went

2445
02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:08,000
Speaker 1: to an emergency room. Correct. Yeah, well I went to

2446
02:02:08,120 --> 02:02:10,360
Speaker 1: the hospital, right, and you go through the emergency room.

2447
02:02:10,600 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 1: And I gave the reference of the mad Max beyond Thunderdown,

2448
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:18,840
Speaker 1: and I said that you drive up right and it's look, man,

2449
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:21,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's intimidating, right, You're like, oh my god,

2450
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm the guy coming here. But there was like four

2451
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 1: ambulances there with guys like Ray their role. There was

2452
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, a police car with its lights on. You know,

2453
02:02:33,320 --> 02:02:35,440
Speaker 1: no siren or anything, but the lights were on. It's

2454
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:37,800
Speaker 1: just intimidating. And by the way, when you walk into

2455
02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:40,800
Speaker 1: the er, there's a guy they're sitting in at a

2456
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:44,360
Speaker 1: desk and he's in a full hasman suit. You know,

2457
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:47,760
Speaker 1: that's kind of intense. Right when they when you got

2458
02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:49,720
Speaker 1: in there and they gave you a quick evaluation. The

2459
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 1: nurse came out and I read the argument and she

2460
02:02:51,720 --> 02:02:53,600
Speaker 1: asked you a few questions when you went, we're going

2461
02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 1: And this is the part that struck me and I

2462
02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:58,520
Speaker 1: kind of related to this. You were going into the hospital.

2463
02:02:58,560 --> 02:03:00,680
Speaker 1: They were walking you in, and you thought, you know,

2464
02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:03,400
Speaker 1: because you had heard what I heard. If you go

2465
02:03:03,520 --> 02:03:06,520
Speaker 1: in there with coronavirus, you're not gonna see anybody. You're

2466
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 1: not gonna see your wife, your kids, nobody, And if

2467
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:12,320
Speaker 1: you don't make it, that's the last moment you get

2468
02:03:12,400 --> 02:03:17,160
Speaker 1: with your family. How do you react to that? Well,

2469
02:03:18,040 --> 02:03:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, look, that is Steve. That was but being

2470
02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:26,280
Speaker 1: dully honest with you guys, that point you just made

2471
02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:30,600
Speaker 1: is what almost gave me reservation to do the interview. Right,

2472
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:34,400
Speaker 1: it's really vulnerable, it's very personable. I just felt like, man,

2473
02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:37,960
Speaker 1: if I can help one guy here, somebody, just one

2474
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:41,040
Speaker 1: guy is being a little bit smarter, you know, than

2475
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:42,840
Speaker 1: it's worth it, right, And I felt like it was

2476
02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:47,560
Speaker 1: kind of my duty. But to your point, yeah, it

2477
02:03:47,720 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 1: was like all this kind of rush, surreal scene. I'm

2478
02:03:50,440 --> 02:03:53,160
Speaker 1: like bending over, trying to catch my breath, breath, and

2479
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 1: I took like three steps. And remember I'm taking small

2480
02:03:56,760 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 1: steps at this point, because if I even take a

2481
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:02,720
Speaker 1: big step, I started off and I'm already struggling to breathe.

2482
02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 1: So but I just pause for a second. It just

2483
02:04:06,160 --> 02:04:10,400
Speaker 1: hit me, and you know, I turned around and looked

2484
02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:14,000
Speaker 1: at Michelle, who was walking away kind of slowly, and

2485
02:04:14,120 --> 02:04:17,440
Speaker 1: I called her name and she turned around, and you know,

2486
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:20,920
Speaker 1: she's crying, and it just hit me. Man, I'd better

2487
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:23,800
Speaker 1: tell her that I love her because at the time, man,

2488
02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:25,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know if I was going to see her again.

2489
02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:28,080
Speaker 1: And I know that sounds really dramatic, but it was

2490
02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:32,920
Speaker 1: real for that moment. That's a tough one. Yeah, Mark Campbell,

2491
02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:34,760
Speaker 1: former Bills taking in on the line of this Mark

2492
02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:38,840
Speaker 1: on football discussion. I think Bill's fans remember you as

2493
02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:41,840
Speaker 1: a as a pretty productive player for three years forty

2494
02:04:41,880 --> 02:04:44,920
Speaker 1: two games, seventy catches, and really you were productive at

2495
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:48,520
Speaker 1: the time of upheaval and transition, right you had Greg

2496
02:04:48,560 --> 02:04:50,680
Speaker 1: Williams as a head coach and Mike mclarkey, you had

2497
02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:53,400
Speaker 1: Drew Blitzers a quarterback, then J. P. Lassman. You still

2498
02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:57,280
Speaker 1: continue to produce despite the all that upevil huh. Yeah,

2499
02:04:57,400 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, man, I appreciate that, I will tell you this, man,

2500
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:03,440
Speaker 1: And and I felt like I was just coming on.

2501
02:05:03,760 --> 02:05:06,320
Speaker 1: So that was and I'm sure Steve you to relate,

2502
02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:08,840
Speaker 1: you know. So that was starting my fifth year in

2503
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 1: the league, and I was just quite honestly coming into

2504
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:15,920
Speaker 1: the player that I wanted to be. And what really,

2505
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:18,960
Speaker 1: you know, the hiccup that I had in Buffalo was

2506
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:22,320
Speaker 1: I tore my ACL you know. And you know the

2507
02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:25,680
Speaker 1: truth is, once you do that, everybody was going to

2508
02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:29,640
Speaker 1: respond differently. Well for me, quite honestly, I had just

2509
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:33,640
Speaker 1: lost a little I was never an extremely fast guy anyways, right,

2510
02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:36,360
Speaker 1: so I needed every little advantage I could get and

2511
02:05:36,480 --> 02:05:39,680
Speaker 1: I lost a little bit of that and it kind

2512
02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:42,040
Speaker 1: of changed the direction of my career. I was able

2513
02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:44,240
Speaker 1: to go on and play, you know, for a total

2514
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 1: ten years, but I kind of became more of just

2515
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:50,720
Speaker 1: the blocking guy at that point. So I'll tell you what, Well,

2516
02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:53,280
Speaker 1: here's what I think. Now. I'm not trying to hijack

2517
02:05:53,320 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 1: your interview, but when I think about some specific things,

2518
02:05:58,080 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 1: you know, from my playing career in buff Flow, a

2519
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 1: couple of things put a huge smile on my face. Right,

2520
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about the guys. Of course,

2521
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:08,200
Speaker 1: that was all great. There was one game where we

2522
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 1: played the Rams, yeah, and I had three touchdowns. That

2523
02:06:12,640 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 1: was pretty cool for me, right. The other one, um,

2524
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:19,080
Speaker 1: I think the same season it was, you know, we

2525
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:23,320
Speaker 1: started off gosh, what years does that old? Five? Yeah,

2526
02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:26,880
Speaker 1: the Rams game four oh four. So if you remember

2527
02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:29,320
Speaker 1: if we started off on fire, remember we just got

2528
02:06:29,480 --> 02:06:34,040
Speaker 1: Lawyer malloy and everybody's on fire. And we remember going

2529
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:38,920
Speaker 1: down to Jacksonville and I was able to catch a

2530
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:42,760
Speaker 1: steam route, but it was the worst hit I ever

2531
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 1: took in my career. I nearly decapitated me. Wow, you

2532
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:53,640
Speaker 1: guys game three touchdown passes from Drew Bledsoe, and I

2533
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:56,000
Speaker 1: think I think they're all in the second half the Bills.

2534
02:06:56,240 --> 02:06:58,040
Speaker 1: I looked up that game today. The Bills trailed in

2535
02:06:58,120 --> 02:07:00,360
Speaker 1: that game early on. You guys came back. Can beat

2536
02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:04,160
Speaker 1: the Rams right around Thanksgiving time. Yeah, yeah, I remember

2537
02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:06,160
Speaker 1: we won that game. It was a pretty good game.

2538
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:09,560
Speaker 1: It was just one of those games, man, you know,

2539
02:07:09,680 --> 02:07:12,800
Speaker 1: every every time, you know, you know, you put it

2540
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 1: in your packages, kind of your red zone, goal line packages,

2541
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:18,200
Speaker 1: and I just felt like, man, I'm gonna have some

2542
02:07:18,280 --> 02:07:21,440
Speaker 1: good opportunities this week, you know. One of them. One

2543
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:24,040
Speaker 1: of them was like a you know, I remember it

2544
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:26,440
Speaker 1: was a boy what was the term we call it

2545
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:29,560
Speaker 1: wasn't a pogo, But basically I ran a somewhat of

2546
02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:31,600
Speaker 1: a scene. But then I could depend on where the

2547
02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:33,680
Speaker 1: defender was, I could either run the post or I

2548
02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:36,040
Speaker 1: could run the flag. So I ended up choosing the flag.

2549
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:37,840
Speaker 1: That was one, and then we had a couple of

2550
02:07:38,320 --> 02:07:41,600
Speaker 1: play accstion ones. But it's funny, you know, you look

2551
02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:43,880
Speaker 1: back and you're thinking, for whatever reason, a lot of

2552
02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:46,600
Speaker 1: my games, I can't speak for everybody, but I'm assuming

2553
02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:48,560
Speaker 1: they're like this, A lot of it just kind of

2554
02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:52,680
Speaker 1: blends together, right, But you can remember specific things, man,

2555
02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 1: and aside, and you can always remember the locker room

2556
02:07:55,960 --> 02:07:58,280
Speaker 1: and the guys, that's for sure. That's the part we

2557
02:07:58,360 --> 02:08:02,000
Speaker 1: all missed the most. But yeah, for I can remember

2558
02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 1: a couple of plays there, and man, I I really

2559
02:08:06,200 --> 02:08:08,600
Speaker 1: enjoyed my time in Buffalo, that's for sure. I was

2560
02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:15,840
Speaker 1: sad to go, truthfully, Hey, Mark is great talking. Yeah, man, Yeah,

2561
02:08:16,040 --> 02:08:20,640
Speaker 1: it's I've always thought, man, you know, very highly of

2562
02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:23,400
Speaker 1: you guys specifically do a great job there, you know,

2563
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:26,320
Speaker 1: And just in a short reference of the three different

2564
02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:31,120
Speaker 1: teams I played for, I thought you guys were the best. Man. Well,

2565
02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:34,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks, thanks Mark, stay healthy. We'll talk

2566
02:08:34,720 --> 02:08:37,840
Speaker 1: again sometime. Thank you. Mark. Okay, guys, take care of

2567
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:41,040
Speaker 1: be good. Thank you. Mark Campbell, former Bills tight end,

2568
02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:44,480
Speaker 1: played three seasons in Buffalo, forty two games and really

2569
02:08:44,560 --> 02:08:47,400
Speaker 1: some difficult years right there, transitioning from Greg Williams. He

2570
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:49,880
Speaker 1: got fired after OH three and then Mike mclarkey OH

2571
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:53,720
Speaker 1: four at OH four season end with the terrible loss

2572
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:55,800
Speaker 1: to the Pittsburgh Steelers that knocked the Bills out of

2573
02:08:55,840 --> 02:08:58,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And through it all, Campbell maintained his production.

2574
02:08:59,200 --> 02:09:02,400
Speaker 1: More importantly, he sounds healthy and even happy, and maybe, uh,

2575
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, got to feel pretty good that he

2576
02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:07,600
Speaker 1: has survived coronavirus COVID nineteen Stephen. He seems to be

2577
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:09,480
Speaker 1: doing well. Huh, yeah, it got to be a little

2578
02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:11,680
Speaker 1: least for him, a little sense of relief that you know,

2579
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:13,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna get through. He's got to feel like he's

2580
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:16,120
Speaker 1: on the other side of it. And uh, certainly, And

2581
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:18,400
Speaker 1: like a lot of people, when you go through something

2582
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:21,640
Speaker 1: like that, you're happy to kind of share what got

2583
02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:24,000
Speaker 1: you through it and how what to expect for everybody else,

2584
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:27,800
Speaker 1: you know. That's uh, yeah, it's good. Good for him,

2585
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:31,000
Speaker 1: you hate and it's he's like the rest of it.

2586
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:33,960
Speaker 1: He's right that it's not gonna happen to me, right,

2587
02:09:35,120 --> 02:09:37,360
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you're in a hospital

2588
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:40,160
Speaker 1: and and he said he had real doubts as to

2589
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:42,360
Speaker 1: whether he's gonna pull through. That was that's pretty that's

2590
02:09:42,400 --> 02:09:45,560
Speaker 1: pretty real. You know. I said this to him, And

2591
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:47,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you do the sea.

2592
02:09:47,720 --> 02:09:49,840
Speaker 1: Every morning, I wake up and say, do I have

2593
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 1: a fever? Do I have a cough? You know what

2594
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean. I go through the checklist of what I

2595
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:57,040
Speaker 1: reported to be the symptoms, just because you don't know, right,

2596
02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:58,480
Speaker 1: And I don't think we're out of the wood jet

2597
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:00,480
Speaker 1: here for that, No, I mean we've got checking I

2598
02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:04,000
Speaker 1: check my temperature. I mean, all the time, and just

2599
02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:05,920
Speaker 1: to stay on top of it because you don't want

2600
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:08,440
Speaker 1: to get caught behind for sure. You know, you don't

2601
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:11,520
Speaker 1: want to be um like, well, I haven't checked in.

2602
02:10:11,600 --> 02:10:13,400
Speaker 1: Then you know you all of a sudden you look

2603
02:10:13,480 --> 02:10:14,920
Speaker 1: turn around. It's a hunt like he did in the

2604
02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:16,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and two point six temperature. All of a sudden,

2605
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 1: it's like, ah, wow, um, yeah, it's yeah, it's It's

2606
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:25,600
Speaker 1: amazing how quickly you can change your behavior when it

2607
02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:28,360
Speaker 1: seems real to you. And I think all of us

2608
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:30,960
Speaker 1: now every time we get out of bed in the

2609
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:32,480
Speaker 1: morning and wonder what we're gonna do for the day,

2610
02:10:32,600 --> 02:10:34,720
Speaker 1: it seems real to all of us because we're all

2611
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:37,840
Speaker 1: closed in yep. Thanks to Mark Campbell for joining us.

2612
02:10:37,880 --> 02:10:40,120
Speaker 1: We're back in a moment with one Bill's Life presented

2613
02:10:40,120 --> 02:10:42,840
Speaker 1: by KLADA Health Radio. Only today we're doing it from

2614
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:44,960
Speaker 1: our house. Steve's at home, I'm at home. This is

2615
02:10:45,080 --> 02:11:00,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Okay, so what have we learned from

2616
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:03,680
Speaker 1: today's show? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction

2617
02:11:03,680 --> 02:11:06,280
Speaker 1: equipment rental company in the Buffalo Bills. We had Clark

2618
02:11:06,440 --> 02:11:08,920
Speaker 1: Judge on earlier today's you know, a long time ago.

2619
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:11,680
Speaker 1: Clark Judge talks about how the All Decade team for

2620
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:14,240
Speaker 1: the two and ten decade. He said, you got to

2621
02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:17,040
Speaker 1: differentiate between first and second teamers. The league didn't do that.

2622
02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:20,120
Speaker 1: Clark Judge says that's not right here. He is, well,

2623
02:11:20,160 --> 02:11:22,600
Speaker 1: it is for the Hall of Fame Board of selectors,

2624
02:11:22,680 --> 02:11:25,880
Speaker 1: because first Team All Decade and second Team All Decade

2625
02:11:25,960 --> 02:11:29,000
Speaker 1: really resonate with the voters, and he gives this a

2626
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:33,480
Speaker 1: means of deciding or determining who's better in terms of

2627
02:11:33,720 --> 02:11:38,040
Speaker 1: that decade. In twenty seventeen, Morton Anderson was a Special

2628
02:11:38,120 --> 02:11:41,320
Speaker 1: Teamer who came up for discussion because he was a finalist,

2629
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:44,120
Speaker 1: and it was a spirited discussion, but the thing that

2630
02:11:44,240 --> 02:11:47,200
Speaker 1: honestly swung the vote was said, wait a minute, he

2631
02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:50,200
Speaker 1: was First Team All Decade, not just for one decade,

2632
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:53,280
Speaker 1: for two decades. So if he was at the best

2633
02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 1: of his position for two straight decades, twenty straight years,

2634
02:11:57,960 --> 02:12:00,120
Speaker 1: how can we keep this guy out? I mean, how

2635
02:12:00,120 --> 02:12:02,200
Speaker 1: can it possible to keep him out? And I know

2636
02:12:02,280 --> 02:12:04,720
Speaker 1: Steve knows the answer this because we don't, for whatever reason,

2637
02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:07,800
Speaker 1: we have a blind diet towards special teamers. But so

2638
02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:09,920
Speaker 1: he did get it. He did get it, and it

2639
02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:13,640
Speaker 1: made a difference. There you go, Clark Jobs. Also on

2640
02:12:13,680 --> 02:12:16,800
Speaker 1: the show, Damario Davis, new Orleans Saints All Pro linebacker.

2641
02:12:17,120 --> 02:12:20,040
Speaker 1: He talked about playing with current Bills linebacker Buffalo's free

2642
02:12:20,080 --> 02:12:24,080
Speaker 1: agents honey A J. Klein, Here's what he said. Oh man,

2643
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:26,760
Speaker 1: he's one of the one of the best guys I've

2644
02:12:26,760 --> 02:12:30,000
Speaker 1: ever been around. A phenomenal football player and loves the game.

2645
02:12:30,080 --> 02:12:31,800
Speaker 1: And that's what you want. You want guys who loved

2646
02:12:31,800 --> 02:12:34,120
Speaker 1: the game. He's gonna be one of the first guys

2647
02:12:34,160 --> 02:12:37,160
Speaker 1: in lands guys to leave every day. Various thinks to

2648
02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:41,160
Speaker 1: a linebacker because of the way he studies. Um. He studies.

2649
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:46,080
Speaker 1: He studies taped to the t um, a phenomenal recognizer

2650
02:12:46,280 --> 02:12:48,920
Speaker 1: plays and being able to see plays before they happened.

2651
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:51,160
Speaker 1: You see a lot of run plays where he snuffed

2652
02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:54,480
Speaker 1: him out in the backfield. Uh, he played you know

2653
02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:58,440
Speaker 1: Versutiles knows the game. Could play multiple positions at linebacker,

2654
02:12:59,120 --> 02:13:02,880
Speaker 1: week side, middle, and outside. He played middle and outstop

2655
02:13:03,080 --> 02:13:09,360
Speaker 1: for us, just depending on h Yeah. Just a phenomenal guy.

2656
02:13:10,040 --> 02:13:14,560
Speaker 1: Great leader there is, Damario Davis. He was a good guest.

2657
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:16,160
Speaker 1: We had a good show today, Steve. It was fun today.

2658
02:13:16,160 --> 02:13:18,680
Speaker 1: What yes, fast moving show a lot of guests and

2659
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:22,200
Speaker 1: it was fun talking. Ended up with the fitting lee

2660
02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:26,400
Speaker 1: with the Mark Campbell who's got through the coronavirus, so

2661
02:13:26,480 --> 02:13:29,240
Speaker 1: maybe the rest of us can too. Yep, Hey, we're

2662
02:13:29,400 --> 02:13:31,960
Speaker 1: no show tomorrow because it's good Friday. No show Monday,

2663
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:34,640
Speaker 1: the Monday after East Year, So we are back on Tuesday,

2664
02:13:34,880 --> 02:13:38,120
Speaker 1: twelve noon to three pm. Our production assistants George Blast,

2665
02:13:38,200 --> 02:13:41,920
Speaker 1: Jeff Colton and Thomas Homilder, Kelly Rude, JJ Trito, Kevin Carters,

2666
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:44,839
Speaker 1: James Robel, Board ops Today, Brayton Wilson and Joe Debians.

2667
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:49,000
Speaker 1: And our producer is Jay Harrison. Steve, have a great weekend,

2668
02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:51,040
Speaker 1: have a great Easter to you and all the taskers,

2669
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:53,600
Speaker 1: and you too, Murph. Give my best to your family

2670
02:13:53,680 --> 02:13:56,640
Speaker 1: and enjoy the weekends. Great Jay Bird that goes for

2671
02:13:56,720 --> 02:13:59,320
Speaker 1: you too, Yeah, Jay Harris, our producer. All right, we're

2672
02:13:59,360 --> 02:14:01,560
Speaker 1: back on Tuesday, day after East to everybody, We'll see

2673
02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:04,040
Speaker 1: you Tuesday at noon. One Bill's Slide presented by Kline

2674
02:14:04,080 --> 02:14:06,200
Speaker 1: of Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio.