WEBVTT - #125 - PnB Rock 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:04.040 A to be here. What's up, guys, Welcome to another 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:06.080 edition of the boule Caev Podcast. Today we got a 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:10.440 special guest. We got the homie representing Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Very 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:15.680 talented singer songwriter. He brought a giant gold cock to 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.160 the studio. If you want to know what I mean, 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:22.159 go on my Instagram at boutle keV. I have a 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:26.880 picture holding his gold cock. I swear to giant gold cock. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.520 He brought a giant gold cock to the studio. Pretty 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:31.480 nice gold cock. Yeah, he brought it in a paper 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:35.360 bag too, which is kind of interesting. Anyway. Pmb Rock 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:37.720 is on the show today. Man. I love P and 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.000 B's music. 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I like to point out during the pandemic, 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:24.160 I sold you a PS five that was I pulled 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:27.200 up like the day or two after the PS fives 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.160 dropped to sell Young Blue a couple and then you 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:31.840 grabbed I think you grabbed the PS five m the 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:36.480 Xbox off being both of them. It was so random. Yeah, 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.080 it was super random, man. You know, I want to 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:41.560 you know what I've been wanting to ask you because 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.280 I feel like you don't get enough flowers in terms 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:49.160 of your influence on the current generation as sound of 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.040 where music is. Do you feel that do you feel 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.320 that's the case as well? You know, I feel like 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:55.960 you were kind of the first dude I can kind 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:57.760 of really remember at least one of the first dudes 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.200 that were really implementing I guess what we'll call like 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:06.399 R and B shit, but from a street angle where 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.040 it was kind of blurring the lines of hip hop 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:09.480 and R and B, Like I really kind of feel 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.840 like you were on the forefront of that. Man. Yeah, 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.280 I ain't gonna lie like I came home in like 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.399 twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, wasn't nobody really doing that shit? 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.200 Then I had got rebooked again because I was just 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.560 fucking around, just kept not doing what I was supposed 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:25.079 to do, and I got locked up again and in 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.239 that mix of that fetti wop came out and shit, 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.320 I'm like, oh shit, somebody, somebody about to come fuck 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.040 that wave up that I had. You heard me, But 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.080 it was like when I still I still had to 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.400 Like I don't know when I before I got booked, 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:40.800 it was like I had shit rolling already, like shows, 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.000 I had features, people was fucking with my sound already, 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.520 and then I got locked up for like nine months, 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.720 eight months. That shit was. It was like I was thinking, like, 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:49.400 damn is over, like that it's gonna slow me down. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.360 There's another nigga. I'm hearing this on the running like 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.240 this other nigga just came and he on the same 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:55.160 wave while I was on you feel Me. I'm like, Damn, 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.600 it's over. But that shit ain't stopped nothing. Though I 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.720 came home, shit was even wave bigger than it was 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.560 when I was first originally out there, like I was 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.240 coming to fuck with me and everything, like on the 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.000 pull up, you feel me that shit was different. And 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.760 then I actually the person that signed Fetti Wi was 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.680 the person that came to sign me, Orlando Wertenberg. So 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.560 it was like, I'm thinking that the way it was 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:17.720 going to be, I'm thinking it was gonna be a 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.680 little awkward. You feel me, Like, Damn, this motherfucker. He 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.360 probably don't think like I'm trying to steal his sound 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.680 and ship and I've been doing this shit, but this 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:25.760 nigga was the most genuine nigga ever when I first 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.360 met him, Fetti. It's just heard such great things about 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.400 Fetti Fetty the goat Man. Shout to Fetty Man. He 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:31.720 put me on a whole bunch of game as far 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.279 as like the music industry, like how niggas is going 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.560 to carry He put me on like he told me 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:39.559 how a whole bunch of rappers was gonna be before 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:41.080 I even got to do it, Like, and I started 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.120 noticing this ship, like Damn, Nigga Cutty put me on 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.599 this minute niggas be really like trying to leach off 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:50.800 you get when you get get, Yeah, that should be weird. Yeah. 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.279 I feel like a lot of that probably had to 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.240 have happened to him because I feel like at a 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:55.880 certain point in time, for at least a year, he 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.200 was the hottest thing moving. Fuck it because when he 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:02.919 was opening for Chris Brown on tour, people were more excited. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.080 And I swear to God because I was at the 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.520 radio station giving away tickets to the Chris Brown Fettiwap 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.840 tour and everyone was calling. They weren't asking for Chris 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.200 Brown take. They were like, yoga when we want to 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:13.400 go see fetiy Wap. And I'm like, well, you know, 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.320 Chris Brown's gonna be there too. They didn't care. So 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:20.359 he like he was a superstar for you know, twelve months, 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:22.559 maybe two years. I mean it was a great twelve 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:25.840 month run, craziest run. But I do feel like, you know, 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.800 he was He's probably been in a position as if 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.279 you maybe where you notice like maybe when you have 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.120 a certain amount of momentum behind you, there's these industry 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.520 people that come around when it's convenient or when it's 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.840 very beneficial to them. But maybe when your shit ain't 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.440 as scorted as it might have been, Like you really realize, oh, 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.160 this shit is fake as fuck. Man, it'd be like 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.040 you think a nigga is genuine. You think while listening 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.000 to somebody music and give you like a picture like that, 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.320 I think that this person like this. I think this 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.000 person like I hold him up here because he be 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.479 on that. Man, you meet these motherfucker maybe like who 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.280 the fuck writes your music? You feel me like you 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.599 need the same great bro, like it should be weird, 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.040 and they'd be like, I didn't help a lot of 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.160 people because I'm wanting people and I still do. I 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.760 don't let that shit change me. I helped like when 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.360 I had my run, even though like people used to 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:11.760 tell me, like, bro, you shouldn't do this feature with 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.520 this person. You shouldn't do this feature with this person. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.480 They ain't. They just trying to use it to I'm like, bro, 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:17.159 if I fuck with somebody music, I'm gonna do it. 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.240 I'm not doing this shit for the money or I'm 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:21.880 not doing this ship that I don't give a fun. 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:23.159 I'm just having fun. It's what I like to do. 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:25.240 I like this ship. I'm gonna do it. You feel me, 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.880 so I gave millions of features away shit. I mean, 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:29.800 some people would say arguably, you probably give away your 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.039 biggest hooks to the other. I literally one of those 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:33.880 people that like because at the time, like my laby 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:35.400 wasn't really doing what I want them to do for 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.080 my music and shit, like they was putting it out, 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:39.680 but it wasn't like having like a big push. So 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.920 if I come across somebody that I know, like they 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.800 labeled going hard from right now they're going hard, I 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:45.480 will give you a whole like some shit that I 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.640 already got and just give it to you. Let's keep 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:49.960 me on it. You feel me. You know, I've seen 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.360 the way you're in the studio. You're very like you know, 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.359 some artists, you'll know if there's not more where that 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:00.560 came from, right, real shit, Like then there's the prolific 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.320 writers where you're like, this shit is so easy to 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.680 somebody like yourself to get in and just lay down 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.279 ideas that are fucking crazy. It's like for you to 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.520 like give a hook away to somebody or to collaborate 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.760 with somebody and give up with you know, some people 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:16.400 might be like yo, man, they he man, p and 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.840 b Rock gave up a crazy hook. There's so much 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.520 more where that came from, and that's not the case 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.080 for everyone. A whole bunch of the hooks that you 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.040 hear that I gave to people, be like it'd be 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.040 a story behind the type of shit, like too many 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.600 years to call that black shit? Mm hmm. I wrote 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.880 that shit. I was literally about to get sentenced, you 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.440 know what I'm saying, Like I'm in the fucking box 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:36.280 with everybody's about to go to see the judge. You 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.320 feel me. I'm I'm like, damn, I think geeese, motherfucker's 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.640 too many years already and I'm about to go get 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.160 sentenced again, Like this shit is wrong, you feel me? 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.080 So I'm thinking of this shit. Well, I'm about to 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.040 go see the judge and I'm nigga the melody everybody 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:49.720 in there like the fuck you singing like that's just 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.680 so hot. Let everybody in there here. A nigga was like, Yo, 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.240 that shit deep bro, like you gotta go home and 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.320 d like you gotta go crazy with that one right there. 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:00.000 So I had this in the cut for a minute. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.960 I ain't never really dropped that ship like when I 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.880 came home, because I ain't had the right beat in 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.200 my head. I heard like a specific beat and I 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.800 could never find that ship. You feel me somew this 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.120 nigga Jay Graham, this is my guy. Shout to j Graham. 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.800 He clutch, Yeah, I'm just in the cribbly highest ship 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.000 this one. When I used to recording the crible with him, 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.160 I'm just like, Bro, I'm trying to do this one 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.280 hook that I got, Bro, can you please find a 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.600 beat for me? He's like, Bro, I can't. I can't, 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.800 like I can make a beat around it. I'm like, broll, 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:27.400 that shit ain't gonna work, you feel me, like for me? 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.280 So he like, just try, like just sing it and 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.200 I'm gonna make the beat around it. I'm all right, 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:36.120 fuck it, I said, put the metronome more metronomes, Like yeah, yeah, 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.120 I just sung the hook to that ship. You hear me? 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.520 Because I couldn't find no beat, Bro. He made the 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.920 whole beats around it. That shit. Wow. Bro, I'm like, damn, 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.080 the whole hook to the metro and sometimes and that's 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.760 never that never happens. Usually it's the beat starts are 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.040 like a loop and then you do it. So so 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:53.959 he made the beat to your under me that's crazy. 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:55.559 We had the ship and I'm like, dne It's probably 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.319 one of the biggest hooks I got right now, you 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:58.960 know what I'm saying. And me and oh like me 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:01.160 or Orlando were like, damn, like what were we gonna 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.080 do with this ship? Like we gotta like if we go, 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:05.719 if we go the way we want to go, it's 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.160 not gonna go how we wanted to go, you know 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.080 what I'm saying. Because they're not really pushing, pushing, pushing 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.120 for my ship. So I'm like, man, who the next nigga? 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.400 Like that you fucking with us? Like could tell this 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.840 story for us? You feel me? Like, cause I don't 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.199 want this to be my song at this point, I 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.320 wanted I wanted to be big and I want this ship. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.120 The world to hear this ship. So he liket to 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.960 sign this kid, Kodak Black Brother, You're on fire, Like, 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.000 let me listen to this ship. I listened to somebody bro. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.760 He perfect for this ship, Like, let's meet this nigga. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.840 So I linked up with Kodak. He got on that ship. 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.160 He was like he was amazing. He don't really fucking 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.240 niggas at this point. Like at this point, Korak was like, 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.360 I feel like he's kind of always been like that. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:46.040 He was on some like like very interesting, but when 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.199 he heard my ship, he was like, damn, like this 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.160 ship different. You feel me like I ain't never, I 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.160 ain't know you was coming like that ship. And it 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:54.800 was just like we started fucking with each other on 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.520 that level and we always continue to make music after that. 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.000 But that was like I got a lot of stories 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.280 like the everyday relationship that was like my song you 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.280 feel Me like me in the studio, and we could 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.679 tell me and me and me and wife and Lucie 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.120 in the studio, this is my session. You feel I 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:09.800 just called him because I fucked through his music. You 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.080 feel Me like. We met in Atlanta. I seen that 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:13.560 he was in New York while I was in New York. 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.000 I called him through the deepest ship and for me, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:17.680 you know, I turned that ship up from the rip 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:19.800 he played the b I just went in You feel Me, 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.920 went right in the movie this is it right, And 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:23.440 then he came and followed me, and then we just 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:24.839 was going back and forth, back and forth. It was 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:26.400 supposed to be my song. You could tell by the 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:29.080 way it was structured, like right, I actually had to 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.200 take my verse and put it second type shit. But 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.960 it was like already knew what they was gonna do 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.200 with that shit, you feel me. They was going heavy 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.840 in the strip clubs and heavy in the promotion in Atlanta, 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:40.960 like as far as like just paying DJs to play 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:42.600 his ship. Yeah, you know, I think it's a game 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.679 they you know. I mean, I'm saying their runs not over. 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.560 But during that time, they had a lot. They had, 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.880 they had, they got the formula. I was like, at 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:52.480 that point in time, they had a lot to prove too, 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.080 because they had to show people that the rich On 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.560 me Quan shit wasn't just the one time thing, you 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.520 know what I'm saying. So it was like perfect time. 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.120 And I think now, I just think you don't get 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.360 enough love as far as like if we think of 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:08.080 everyone who's like, I mean, really where you kind of 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.960 were you kind of brought into the you know, industry. 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:12.680 Obviously we talked about fat I think the future was 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.360 doing a bit of that. Your shit is a little 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.120 bit different, but that's kind of where the game is now. 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:19.280 I ain't gonna care. I'll be looking at it. Like 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.240 at first, I was a little sour, you know what, 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.480 I'm saying, right, like, all these little motherfuckers come and 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.679 taking my ship, and it's like my situation was a 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.760 little bit different because I felt like my label just 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.240 wasn't like they ain't believing what I had going on 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.440 at the time. But it's all these little mes coming 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.400 out and they they stream, they going crazy doing everything 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:38.599 they supposed to be doing. I'm like, well, that's what 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:40.360 we're supposed to be doing with my ship for me, 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:42.880 and it's like, y'all letting these niggas out run me 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:44.360 now because I can't even drop as much as I 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.800 used to drop. It just was like a frustrating thing 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.600 with my label. Well I do feel like too man 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.800 like kind of what got you here was being able 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:57.480 to drop freely heat up the streets. You know, It's 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.599 crazy because I was in the studio like four or 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.600 five months ago with you in twenty four and you 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:04.760 guys are working on a joint project and it was like, well, 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:06.440 how does this how's this gonna come out because of 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.439 your label? Real? Right? Shout out to twenty four hours. 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.040 But like I just saw you commented on snow the 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.920 products post she had said she had posted her recap. 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:20.360 She was like no management, no distro, no label, and 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.880 this is what I'm doing. Maybe in twenty twenty two 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:27.560 that changes, and you commented, no, no, don't sign, keep going. 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.000 You are you're somebody who's been a part of the 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.840 major label system for what six seven years? Now? When 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.480 did you first sign fifteen? So yes, it's about six 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.760 years right, and you know you've shared your frustrations with 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:42.840 your label recently earlier this year. What what is it like? 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.920 Where do you think kind of the disconnect is for 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.160 P and b Rock and being on a major label. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.800 It's the It's like labels is like still like they 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:54.680 catching up, you feel me, but it's like they still 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.760 kind of stuck in the old stigma words though, like 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.080 it's like a I don't know it and I don't 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.839 know how to say. It's like the deals were so 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:05.880 shitty back then, you feel me, and they still like 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.040 try to implement that ship now like we're still in 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:09.760 those times and they be like, bro, we're not we're 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.880 streaming now and ship like it ain't me. People ain't 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.160 going to the store and buying it. No fucking CDs 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.200 and shit, no more that shit over. But they still 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.480 got the deals kind of structure like that you feel me, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.560 and it's like, why the fuck If y'all can catch 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.040 up with the money on the streams, why the fuck 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:23.920 y'all can't catch up with the deals You feel me like, 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.320 shit don't be making sense to me. And they be like, 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.240 once you learn it as an artist, that should be 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.400 like kind of like scary for a label. They be like, damn, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.480 what's my fucker answering too many questions right, like we're 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.240 gonna figure it out. They'll try to stall you out, 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.400 you know what I'm saying. But it's like artists are 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:41.280 getting smarter, right, and then we like look at like 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.520 the like I always look at someone like Russ, and 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.600 I feel like Russ gives out so much free game 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:50.200 the artists bro right, just like I he I always 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.080 anytime I think like son, like I can't get this, 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.360 Like I don't know what the fuck I hit that nigga, 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.640 and like, Yo, what you think about this? Bro? Here? 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.360 Really like give me the whole paragraph, bro, Like how 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:01.400 I should do this? Some of the ship I could 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:02.920 agree with some of this shit be like I could 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.480 take that and not do how I do it. Hell yeah, 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.320 but that nigga different, He's smart, bro, I feel like 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.800 the labels hate Russ because he'd be really fucking holding 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.960 their feet over the fucking fire. He popped his ship 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.120 and it's all real. Real lawyers hate him because he's like, yo, 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.160 if you're giving you a lawyer ten percent, they're holing 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.520 you in real ship. I feel it's like, bro, when 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.800 I finally got to know the business, because you like 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.920 when you come into this ship, bro, like I see 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.080 it all the time, like you just having fun. You 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.960 just so like you want everybody else to do your 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.520 ship because you want to. Like I don't want I 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.760 don't want to have to beat the nigga to book 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:36.600 my own shows. I don't want to have to be 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.680 the nigga to be looking through these emails that's decipher 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.760 if this nigga serious about this feature. I'm trying to 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.880 make music right now. I don't want nothing else. And 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.360 you will put that shit on everybody like you do this, 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.920 you good at you do this, you feel me, but 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.400 that shit be like you gotta know your business, bro, 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:53.920 You gotta know what the fuck going on. You gotta 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.040 know everything that's going on with this is your ship. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.120 You know what I'm saying. At the end of the day, Like, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.360 it's cool to have people that the team. You need 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.000 a team, but you gotta still be on your ship 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.720 at the end of the day. You gotta know what 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.400 the fuck is coming through these emails who personally? You 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:09.160 gotta know the same people that this person. You don't 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.240 want to be just having people make connections through you. 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.760 But you're not even meeting the people you know. Everybody 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.360 building relationships and nobody. You don't even know these people 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.560 that should be different. Bro, you gotta you're You're dropping 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.160 a new project on Thursday night. Yeah, my glow day? 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.240 Is that your birthday? Oh? Yeah, sas Game the ninth 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.640 is your birthday. Yeah, that's my anniversary, my wedding anniversary. 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.080 Dr Gonna be in DR with my wife. Yeah, ain't gonna. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.240 I'm thinking about Dubai. Hey, that's just how I'm feeling 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:39.360 right now. Thursday is a big day. Kanye Drake got 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.720 their show in La Thursday, your birthday. You got an 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:45.520 album coming out. I heard the ticket, was like, probably 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.200 I'm not gonna be there, so I wouldn't know. But nonetheless, 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.920 I'm always curious if someone like you, do you feel 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.080 like if you were independent the last three to four 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:59.480 years how much more music would you have dropped? Bro? 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.840 What I got like in my phone and ship, my 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.720 email and my heart drop. I probably got like over 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.360 like two thousand songs that nobody ever heard. Type shit, 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.320 Because isn't that much more harder if like you woke 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.440 up tomorrow and said, I got a fucking EP with 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.320 this producer. I've been cooking up with this whole week 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.200 and it's crazy and I'm trying to drop this ship. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.040 It's not that easy. Fuck, No, Bro, I can't even 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.160 say I want to put this ship on YouTube real quick? 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.480 Ohh blob. You know what I'm saying, because they got 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.040 my YouTube. You know what I'm saying. I don't even 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:26.640 got access to my fuck so you don't even have 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.200 access to your own YouTube. No, Bro, when I got 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.120 sign D take over all your ship, he asks you 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.720 all these questions like, all right, which pass word to this? Uh? 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.400 Do you ever got to count over here? We need 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.120 to pass word to this. You be thinking like, are 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:38.680 they just going to have access to it? But they 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.640 they changed your whole ship over me, like they need 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.160 to rerouted my money. I don't even get my YouTube, 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.480 che so you can't drop a video tomorrow or vlog. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.280 You got to send it to the label first, What 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.560 the fuck? And it's like it's cool because I like 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.120