1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland, and this is Fitness Disrupted. This 3 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: is a good one. They're all good ones. Some get 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: me more excited than others. This is one fit tip 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: chocolate milk versus regular milk? Which is healthier? About calling it? 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Which is better? The quotation marks, because that's a common 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: theme here. Which is better? Freeweights or machines? On and on? 8 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: And let me also start by saying, if you don't 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: believe in milk, you think it's bad for you, this 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: shows not for you. All right, it's not the debate 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: here today. I have two kids. I give them milk, 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: and one likes chocolate milk, one doesn't. They both get milk, 13 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: all right. And my youngest came home not too long 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: ago and said dad, health class teacher said, who thinks 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: chocolate milk is good for you? Raise your hand? He 16 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: raised his hand. She said, you're wrong, it's bad for you. 17 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: That's the topic here today, all right. Let me read 18 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: to you from an article. Quick article kind of sets 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: the tone for what I'm talking about here. This was 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen Education Week Online, and I quote, like 21 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: many foods real butter anyone chocolate milks fortunes have risen 22 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: and fallen over time, citing concerns over childhood obesity. Some 23 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: school districts, from the District of Columbia in two thousand 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: ten to Temperate Arizona just this school year, have taken 25 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: the often controversial step to band chocolate and other flavored 26 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: milk from their schools, but some districts are reintroducing chocolate 27 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: milk back into their cafeterias. The New Haven School Board 28 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: in Connecticut voted at the end of November to reverse 29 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: the districts two thousand eleven band on chocolate milk. At 30 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: the beginning of the school year, the Mount Vernon School 31 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: District in Washington State put chocolate milk back on the 32 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: menu five days a week after twelve years of only 33 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: offering it on Fridays. Let me stop real quickly there 34 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: twelve years, was there a significant weight loss? Pretty good study, 35 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: lots of kids, lots big subject size, What were the 36 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: benefits or were there any? And it goes on. The 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Unified School District opted to pull back its 38 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: prohibition in two thousand sixteen. One big concern is that 39 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: when kids pass on milk They're also passing on what 40 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: an important source of vitamins and minerals such as vitamin 41 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: D and calcium. The other issues cited by the new Haven, 42 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Mount Vernon and Los Angeles districts is food waste. In 43 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: the words of the Los Angeles Times, schools there were 44 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: tossing out an obscene amount of food, much of it 45 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: plain milk. The New Haven School District has not completely 46 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: reversed its span. The district is allowing chocolate milk back 47 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: into high school one periods only twice a week as 48 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: part of a six month pilot. According to the New 49 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 1: Haven Independent, I think they're going to see a huge 50 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: amount of weight gain from that. Uh that school boards 51 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: non voting student representative back the measure, while the board 52 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: secretary this is really important and not surprising, who is 53 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: also a pediatrician, voted to maintain the band. The pediatrician 54 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: does not want chocolate milk, and that goes to another 55 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: reason I decided to do this show today. Was on 56 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: my list because a well known nutritionist, professor PhD friend 57 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: of mine, who I have yet to have on the show, 58 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: but he posted this very subject that a pediatrician said 59 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: the same thing to him and that's where it goes. 60 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: Two chocolate milk versus regular milk, which is healthier. Let 61 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: me compare to two brands, chocolate versus white milk. Okay, 62 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: the chocolate milk hundred forty calories of serving. I'm gonna 63 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: give you the specific brands because I don't push brands 64 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: here in that way. But this chocolate milk, and by 65 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: the way, it just happened to be the brand I 66 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: give my kids, the one son because the other one 67 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: doesn't like chocolate milk hundred forty calories is serving four 68 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: point five grams of fat, thirteen grams of carbs, twelve 69 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: is sugar, thirteen grams of protein. That is a ridiculous 70 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: high amount. Okay, the two percent milk declared as healthier 71 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: by the pediatricians specific pediatricians cos per serving Okay, twenty 72 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: calories last twenty calories, that's not a lot. Five grams 73 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: of fat point five grams more. Now, fat's important, certain 74 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 1: fats right for health. Thirteen grams of carves with thirteen 75 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: grams from sugar, so one gram more of sugar in 76 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: this two percent white milk as compared to the chocolate milk. 77 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: And the most important thing for me I don't care 78 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: about that one gram of sugar. I don't even care 79 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: about the twenty calori eight grams of protein almost half 80 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: but five grams less. And there you have it. People, 81 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: How many times do I say it depends again, We're 82 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: not going to debate milk. You can choose or not choose. 83 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: That's your choice, just like you can choose or not choose. Eggs. 84 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: You can choose and not choose. Meat. You can choose 85 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: and choose, you know. But I'm gonna go with the 86 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: research and the studies and all that stuff. That's what 87 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: I bring to you. That's what the show is about. 88 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: I want my kids to live their best lives, and 89 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: I go by the latest research. End those things that 90 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Okay, Now, some 91 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: of you may say, oh, they can get vitamin D 92 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: and calcium from other places and minerals invited. Sure they can, 93 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: most kids are not. And how many adults can't even 94 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: drink regular water without sweetening it. And you've got the 95 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: gold fish and all these other things that parents will 96 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: give their kids, but not the milk, the chocolate milk, which, 97 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: as you just saw, comparatively speaking, this brand insanely high 98 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: in protein, and I want my kids to have as 99 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: much protein, not as much, but that what they need, 100 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: which is hard to do. And so if chocolate milk 101 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: is the way to do it, and that little bit 102 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: of chocolate works. And as I said, I got two kids. 103 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: One likes chocolate, one doesn't. So I also look at 104 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: the individual differences of the kids, the likes and dislikes, 105 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: and what is going to actually get them to get 106 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: in what I'm trying. The protein, the vitamins, the minerals. 107 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: So it depends. And chocolate milk is not worse than 108 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: certain brands of white milk. And final story, and I've 109 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: told it before that that same young son who was 110 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: told he was wrong that chocolate milk was not good 111 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: compared to regular milk, he once picked up and I'm 112 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: not going to give you the brand, super well known 113 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: brand of chocolate milk. And he flipped over and he 114 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: looked at the label and he said, Dad, there's two 115 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: grams of protein in here. This can't be milk. And 116 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: he's right. So read labels, be informed. And again this 117 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: should be way longer than just a fit tip, because 118 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: there's so much here that goes into behaviors and how 119 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: we get healthy things into kids. But it depends. Read labels, 120 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: be informed. And the fact that pediatricians and doctors say 121 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: certain things when it comes to nutrition is surprising, but 122 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: it's not. And I have many friends who are doctors. 123 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: Nutrition is not at the forefront of their training, suffice 124 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: it to say, and some have zero zero education in nutrition. 125 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: Pediutrictions different, But it depends. And obviously these I don't 126 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: agree with. Let's go by results. Go by results. If 127 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: you're feeding your kids certain things and they are thriving, awesome, 128 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: keep doing what you're doing. But the childhood obesity is 129 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: getting worse and worse and worse, and the knowledge of 130 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: most parents into nutrition is really not good. And it's 131 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: compounded by I would argue people in the health professions 132 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: who don't know what they're talking about and don't know 133 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: the latest research. And there you have it. All right, 134 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: let's see what happens in that six months. Can we 135 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: not just look back at what happened in the twelve years? 136 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: Why are we doing six months study? And let me 137 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: just leave you with this final little tidbit on studies 138 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: and things like that. How often do we talk about eggs? 139 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: Are they good? Are they bad for you? Many of 140 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: the studies, some of the studies depends on which one 141 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: you look at, but they'll be self reports, as they 142 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: often are. And so some of these studies it's eggs 143 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: are bad for you, and they look at certain markers 144 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: health metrics of the people who are in these studies, 145 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: how many times a week do you eat eggs? And 146 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: then they look but they don't look at what they're 147 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: eating the eggs with. Do you think those people are 148 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: generally having egg whites or you know, egg omelets with 149 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: vegetables and holy toast, or you think they're getting bacon, 150 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: egg and cheese. So you think you're oversimplifying just to 151 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: ask how many times a week you have eggs? Now, 152 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: depending on how the studies done, doesn't have to be 153 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: completely you know, flawed but pun intended food for thought. 154 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: That's often what's problematic about many studies and much of 155 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: the advice you are given. But the takeaway from this 156 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: one is that comparison one brand of chocolate milk versus 157 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: one brand of white milk weed labels be informed. Pretty 158 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: much the only time I use math when it comes 159 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: to certain aspects of math serving size, because they often 160 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: don't even put it in serving size is another criticism 161 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: for another day. 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