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Speaker 1: This the one Bills Live presented by called lighta Health.

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Speaker 2: Rogers in the shotgun on thirty nineteen back to pass

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Speaker 2: as time looking throws deep over the middle, picked off

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Speaker 2: by Christian Bedford coming the other way thirty five forty

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Speaker 3: All right. That's just one of the plays by Christian

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Speaker 3: Benford last season in the twenty twenty four campaign. And

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Speaker 3: Benford is gonna play a few more seasons for the Bills.

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Speaker 3: We know that because it has been confirmed over the

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Speaker 3: weekend by Brandon Bean even though it hasn't been signed yet.

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Speaker 3: They have agreed to terms with Christian Benford on a

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Speaker 3: four year extension where it's seventy six million dollars. I

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Speaker 3: would say safe to call it, Steve, a mutually beneficial

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Speaker 3: deal because Benford is not at the top of the

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Speaker 3: It was a deal that it was obviously acceptable for them,

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Speaker 3: the Benford camp, and I don't think it absolutely kills

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Speaker 3: the Bills because it's not a market resetting type deal,

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Speaker 3: if you will, right.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, they they're preemptive. They did it a little early,

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Speaker 1: although as a sixth round pick, he has far outperformed

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Speaker 1: you know, He's not the highest paid cornerback in NFL

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Speaker 1: they did, and they got out in front of it.

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Speaker 1: And the Bills, I mean have this is the I

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Speaker 1: think the fourth extension they've done this offseason, none of

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Speaker 1: which all of which were great, really good money, but

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Speaker 3: Even that wasn't that wasn't a jaw dropper.

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Speaker 1: It was great money and commensurate. But the guy's the

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Speaker 1: I think that we're seeing that. You know, most people's

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Speaker 1: They signed the guys to good money at the right

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Speaker 1: time early in the process. They don't let it. They

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Speaker 1: don't push it past and you know this, the Cook

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Speaker 1: the front, and it looks like they're gonna wait on that.

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Speaker 3: You probably don't have any cap space left to utilize here,

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Speaker 3: right and I'll send draft picks that you have to

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Speaker 1: It strikes me that the Cook deal is going to

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Speaker 1: that better money than they're willing to pay, then, you know,

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Speaker 1: bless his heart, he can go ahead and take it,

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Speaker 1: but they're not going to do anything until he's at

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Speaker 1: the end of the contract.

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Speaker 3: Benford is the third member of the twenty twenty two

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Speaker 3: draft class to sign an extension, joining Torell Bernard and

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Speaker 3: don't see us doing any deals anytime soon. This is

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Speaker 3: a direct quote. We're gonna focus on the draft and

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Speaker 3: get our cap in order. We want nothing more, just

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Speaker 3: like these other guys, than for James to continue being

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of an indication that they couldn't get

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Speaker 3: Cook's camp clearly feels he's worth more than the Bills

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Speaker 1: I'll say this to that, that's a little bit typical

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Speaker 3: So Christian Benford had a good weekend. Steve and I

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Speaker 1: Dude, that's a rain out to me for you.

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Speaker 3: I was in the New York metropolitan area this weekend

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Speaker 1: You're killing me over here right.

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Speaker 1: It's my fault.

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Speaker 3: good weekend all the way around. Uh, busy weekend, that's

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Speaker 3: just beginning at the league meetings and some other bills news.

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Speaker 3: As coach, McDermott was a very popular interview subject today,

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Speaker 6: Dove deeper into more of the data on it, and

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Speaker 6: you know, just thought more about it as well, and

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Speaker 7: What what do you think within the health and see

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think anytime you get.

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Speaker 1: In it's two things.

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Speaker 6: that type of play. That's where that's where my concern

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Speaker 7: Do you think you'll continue to run the play if

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Speaker 6: You know, a form of it, right, a form of it,

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Speaker 6: I know we are one of the teams that people

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Speaker 5: That's fair.

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Speaker 6: So I just look, we're gonna we're gonna always act

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Speaker 8: If there's no actual health and safety data showing that

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Speaker 5: Is it the hope that there's gonna be injury that

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Speaker 6: Well, number one, I'm not a doctor, so I don't.

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Speaker 1: What player would you willingly sacrifice for the data?

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Speaker 3: He hated it, you know, he said it was not

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Speaker 1: Fun play to run. It's a difficult and you can

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Speaker 3: And the other concern too, with regard to posture of players,

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Speaker 1: So they have always done that, and it's really been illegal,

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Speaker 3: Yes, So it's going to be a very very interesting

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Speaker 3: That's the alignment that he takes on the field. The

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Speaker 3: intents and purposes closed for Buffalo as they focus on

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Speaker 3: their final preparations for the draft, because Brandon being kind

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Speaker 3: of gave as much indication of that, saying they're probably

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Speaker 3: not even going to entertain negotiating contract extension with James

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Speaker 3: Cook at this time. Their focus is on their draft

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Speaker 3: now going forward. There was one approval that the owners

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Speaker 3: did vote on already, according to some reports that we

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Speaker 3: saw this afternoon, and that was raising the bill's debt

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Speaker 3: limit for the stadium to six hundred and fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like a lot of money. It's not the highest

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Speaker 3: request ever made that was for Sofi Stadium. It was

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Speaker 3: over a billion that Stan Kronkey asked for and that

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Speaker 3: was granted. So this was more of a formality kind

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Speaker 3: of thing that's not even related to the bylaws and

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Speaker 3: proposals that are going to get voted on tomorrow. It's

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Speaker 3: other business, I guess, right.

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Speaker 1: And basically what it is is it's a math project.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's our math. Can we do it? And they'll say, yeah, sure.

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Speaker 3: And then this news crossed late this morning former Bills

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Speaker 3: quarterback Frank Reich being hired by Stanford as the school's

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Speaker 3: interim football coach for the twenty twenty five season. Both

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Speaker 3: sides in this agreement have agreed this will be a

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Speaker 3: one season agreement only. At that point, Stanford will launch

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Speaker 3: a national search for a permanent, long term head coach.

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Speaker 3: Andrew Luck, who is the football program's GM at the

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Speaker 3: school and an alum, was coached briefly by Reich in

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis when Reich served there as head coach in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 3: right before Luck called it a career unceremoniously at the

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Speaker 3: end of the preseason. So that's interesting, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: it's late in the process. Stanford fired their head coach

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Speaker 3: late in the process. And it's like a lot of

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Speaker 3: the coaching carousel at the college level, like the musical

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Speaker 3: chairs have stopped so Andrew Luck is now tasked with

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Speaker 3: finding somebody of a certain measure of credibility and standard

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Speaker 3: when people at the college level really aren't available.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I can't speak for my friend Frank,

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Speaker 1: but it makes good sense for him. I think he

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Speaker 1: still wants to be in the coach into coaching. Still,

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Speaker 1: he still wants to have a shot at a head

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Speaker 1: coaching job in a more stable environment than he's been

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Speaker 1: able to enjoy as a in the two chances he's

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Speaker 1: gotten so far. And this does keep him relevant, no

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Speaker 1: question about it. Keeps his name out there. And and

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Speaker 1: I think too, I think he has a relationship with

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck and had to respect the fact that even

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Speaker 1: when even though Andrew Luck made his job really difficult,

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Speaker 1: he respected him. And I think they parted on good terms.

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Speaker 1: And Luck saw that in Frank Wright, a guy who

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Speaker 1: would say, hey, listen, would you help us out. We'll

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Speaker 1: make it worth your while and yeah, you know, we'll

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Speaker 1: give you a chance to do this, and and yeah,

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Speaker 1: Frank said, yeah. I he did a little consulting last

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Speaker 1: year in his year off after he was released by

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, and now he's you know, staying in

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Speaker 1: it good for him. He'll be in town this week.

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Speaker 1: He's got a call to Courage breakfast yep on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: This is coming Saturday. He'll be in town here this

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Speaker 1: coming week, so it'll be interesting to see. Maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll get a chance to get him on the show

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Speaker 1: talk about this job and also the breakfast here on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: But certainly I think it's a smart move by Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 1: People are like, what are they doing? Listen? You get

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Speaker 1: you get a reputable name to come in.

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Speaker 3: And a principled person that like everybody universally respects too.

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Speaker 1: You get a guy that's got some chops, he's got

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Speaker 1: some name recognition as both as a player and as

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Speaker 1: a coach. And now he comes in and it gives

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Speaker 1: you a year and understanding that it's only a year.

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Speaker 1: Most guys don't touch that. Listen, give me a five

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Speaker 1: year deal or I'm not doing it. And that's and

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Speaker 1: he's helping Stanford University out in an enormous way because

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Speaker 1: now they can launch a search and not have You

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Speaker 1: don't have to worry about the coach saying, hey, you

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Speaker 1: already got a coach. I don't want to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to backstab a coach that's already that's

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Speaker 1: got the job, and by interviewing behind their back, it's

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Speaker 1: all out in the open. So it really helps Stanford

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Speaker 1: to go out and really vet any available coach that

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Speaker 1: they've seem fit to interview. It's a really smart move

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Speaker 1: by Stanford at a time when it was late in

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Speaker 1: the process they had to get somebody. Really smart move

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Speaker 1: by them, and I can certainly understand why Frank would say, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll do it.

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Speaker 3: So let's continue going around the NFL. Presented by Collida Health,

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Speaker 3: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Colt's head coach

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Speaker 3: Shane Steichen said that Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones will

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Speaker 3: split reps in Ota practices. This spring, Jones signed a

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Speaker 3: one year, fourteen million dollar contract in free agency with

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis and he is going to serve as Anthony Richardson's

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Speaker 3: competition here.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing Anthony Richardson hold that

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Speaker 1: job with Daniel Jones in the building.

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Speaker 3: Even with Daniel jones starcrossed career.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is what he is. He's gonna be consistent,

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Speaker 1: and Anthony Richardson has been anything but and I'll say

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Speaker 1: this to Daniel Jones, is gonna allow if there are

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Speaker 1: any good players on Indianapolis's squad, which there are, He's

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Speaker 1: gonna wrote, Daniel Jones will allow those guys to elevate

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Speaker 1: their play. He'll get them the ball, his playmakers, Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson Paul in his hands. He may not give it up,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He hangs on to a

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Speaker 1: little too much that when push comes to shove. Coaching

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Speaker 1: staffs like the predictability of a high floor.

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Speaker 11: Trust.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they like a high floor sometimes more than they

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Speaker 1: like a ceiling, because they never He may never reach

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Speaker 1: that ceiling.

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Speaker 3: Ravens head coach John Harbaugh, who just signed a contract

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Speaker 3: extension with the Ravens, himself, confirmed there have been internal

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Speaker 3: discussions on a contract extension for Lamar Jackson. Jackson's current

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Speaker 3: contract runs through the twenty twenty seventh season, but in

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Speaker 3: the wake of the Josh Allen extension, it's not un

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Speaker 3: realistic to think that the Ravens field They've got to

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Speaker 3: get to work on something as well. Jets head coach

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Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn believes this could be quarterback Justin Field's best

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Speaker 3: season of his career coming up with the Jets after

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Speaker 3: signing a two year contract with the club. I call

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Speaker 3: this blind optimism, Steve, and I guess Aaron Glenn really

555
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Speaker 3: has nothing else to hang his hat on right now,

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Speaker 3: so he has to be almost eternally optimistic in his

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Speaker 3: first year as Jets head coach.

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Speaker 1: Certainly, Yeah, I mean that's Aaron Glenn doing his job basically, right.

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Speaker 1: He's doing his job, whether he believes it or not.

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Speaker 1: He's hard at work. And you know, I've got nothing

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Speaker 1: but respect for Aaron Glenn. He was a fantastic player

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Speaker 1: and has proven himself to be a great coach. And

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Speaker 1: this is it's got to be turned around looking at

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Speaker 1: himself in the mirror, going yeah that well here I am.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be a head coach. This is what

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Speaker 1: I get. I gotta say this about Justin Fields and

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Speaker 1: the Jets. He's just doing his job. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he believes it or what. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at you thinking neither one of us believes it.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's it's Look what is it? Those fourth team?

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Speaker 3: His team right Fields? Chicago, No, Chicago, Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh, New York thirteen thirdeam and he's and let me

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Speaker 1: say this too, Brownie, he isn't. It's not like he

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Speaker 1: has had like no chance, no opportunity in any of

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Speaker 1: those other.

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Speaker 3: Times for a thousand yards one season with Chicago as

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Speaker 3: a quarterback, you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing too, You got to take Chicago

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Speaker 1: out of the mix because that's where quarterbacks go to die. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so haven't get drafted.

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Speaker 3: There was a tough road to home.

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Speaker 10: It was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, now he's with the Jets. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's I don't know if he's getting better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be as tough if Butyre.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what the I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the floor is for his best season of his career.

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Speaker 1: What's that going to look like? He could do it?

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Speaker 1: I mean right, we'll.

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Speaker 3: See a topic of discussion for you today concerns the

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Speaker 3: potential for the tush push play being banned. How might

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Speaker 3: a tush push ban impact the Bill's offense going forward?

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Speaker 3: You let us know what you think. At eight h

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Speaker 3: three zero five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty

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Speaker 3: two five fifty, the number to get on board the

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Speaker 3: vote is tomorrow, and right now it sounds like it

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Speaker 3: could go either way, So you let us know if

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Speaker 3: a ban on the tushpush play does happen, how do

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Speaker 3: you think that impacts the Bill's offense? Steve and I

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Speaker 3: got to take a break here, but we're back with

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Speaker 3: your phone calls when we return. On one Bill's Live

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Speaker 3: presented by Colada Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right

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Speaker 3: back here, I want to Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 3: tasking with you on a Monday and with the vote

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Speaker 3: coming down tomorrow on the future of the tush push play,

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Speaker 3: will it remain a part of the game or will

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Speaker 3: it be banned in a proposal presented by the Green

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Speaker 3: Bay Packers, and more importantly, as it pertains to the Bills,

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Speaker 3: if it is banned, how might a tush put band

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Speaker 3: tush push ban impact the Bill's offense this coming season?

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Speaker 3: Knowing for a good portion of the year was a very,

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Speaker 3: very successful play for Buffalo in goal line situations and

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Speaker 3: short yardage situations to extend drives eight fifty one eighty eight,

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Speaker 3: five fifty two, five fifty the numbers to jump on

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Speaker 3: board with us. Don't have time to give us a

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Speaker 3: phone call, he can always hit us up on the tweets.

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Speaker 3: Sheet at one Bill's live. What is the level of

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Speaker 3: impact Steve that you kind of foresee him. Well, if

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Speaker 3: it gets banned and the Bills can't use it anymore.

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Speaker 1: Bills need to run a little better at this. In

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs game this last year, right, I mean they.

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Speaker 3: Were four seven, four for seven.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go six for seven at least, right, So

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Speaker 1: they need to run it better. But they didn't run

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Speaker 1: it exactly the way like Philly did. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's much of an effect because our quarterback is six five,

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty pounds and he can kind of

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Speaker 1: go by himself. If they ban it, it will probably

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Speaker 1: be an advantage to Buffalo because we can run a

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Speaker 1: more traditional quarterback sneak tradition and be more effective doing

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Speaker 1: it then most teams can because their quarterback going like Tua,

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Speaker 1: they're not running.

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Speaker 3: He's not running it.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're not running it.

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Speaker 3: Brady ran a very effect Baker Mayfield. No, Brady ran

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Speaker 3: a very effective quarterbacks Yeah, I mean Patriots where they

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Speaker 3: would get quickly up on the line and then run

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Speaker 3: it fast on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Brady also is a six five plus dude.

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Speaker 1: He's very tall, so he could reach. And also you

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Speaker 1: look at the look at a team like Carolina with

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young, who's a little guy, you know, the Arizona

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Speaker 1: running it, Arizona Cardinals, they're not running.

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Speaker 3: And Daniel's probably not running.

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Speaker 1: Jaden Daniel's not running it. Kyler Murray's not running it.

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford's probably not running it, right, Rogers is probably not,

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Speaker 1: although you see Rogers do it once in a while,

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Speaker 1: but he picks his spot, right. He does it when

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Speaker 1: they're not expecting it, when you're not you know, when

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Speaker 1: you're not here, we go kind of thing. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: it's an advantage for those teams who can use it

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Speaker 1: and execute it. And for teams like Buffalo or Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: you know, or Tennessee with Will Levis got some of

655
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Speaker 1: these guys that are big, burly dudes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an advantage because they have Baltimore is probably

657
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Speaker 3: running with Derreck Henry or Patrick right, Carl.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but you know what I mean, Yeah, they

659
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Speaker 1: got a quarterback that can pull it off. It's it's

660
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: not a thing for me. It's boring. I think you

661
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: do run the risk of a team using it so

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Speaker 1: much like if it's a third and three, what are

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Speaker 1: you gonna do if they do it and they start

664
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Speaker 1: picking it up right, and they start just saying, you know,

665
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: first and ten, here we go we I mean, that's

666
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Speaker 1: that's the road you're gonna go down.

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Speaker 3: I didn't really feel like this had a chance of

668
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: being threatened to be removed from the game, because it's

669
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Speaker 3: very rare when the league removes anything from the game

670
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: that is remotely positive for offensive football. And Wes is

671
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 3: a play that for the teams that can run, it

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00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: extends drives and puts points on the board.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's here's the thing too, Brent,

674
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Speaker 1: I don't know you can do you count this as

675
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: offensive football?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I mean. You can argue

677
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: it's not game changing or game altering.

678
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Speaker 1: And it's also who cares if they take away that play?

679
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you should be good enough to find other

680
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: ways to end.

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00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: And also I think a better play to if they're

682
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: looking to add stuff, add the fourth and fifteen on

683
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: an on side. Let the offense stay out there, Let

684
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: your best star offensive players go out and try a fourth.

685
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 3: And fifteen instead of an on side.

686
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: Instead of an on side kick that never works.

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Speaker 3: Which really wasn't brought to the table. Yeah, so I'm

688
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 3: I'm which I needs me to believe that there's still

689
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: too many opponents to that, and they know bringing it

690
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: to the table again isn't going to work anyway. Yeah,

691
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: well right, because they kind of know when they do

692
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: and when they don't have the support. And it's just like, look,

693
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Speaker 3: only ten owners voted for it last time, you need

694
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Speaker 3: twenty four. It's nowhere near getting passed. It's too it's

695
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 3: too radical for the owners to accept. Right now, Let's

696
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: table that and focus on other things that have a

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00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: greater chance of getting through. At least that's the sense

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Speaker 3: that I.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this to a fourth and fifteen makes a

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00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: lot more sense to me.

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Speaker 3: And oh, I like the idea, don't get me wrong.

702
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: And you could put it, you know you can. You

703
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: could spot the ball wherever you want. Is so if

704
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Speaker 1: you don't get it, at least they're not you know,

705
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: it's three points right away, the game's over. Or you know,

706
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: you could spot the ball at the forty and you

707
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: got to get to the other forty five to pick

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Speaker 1: it up. So that way, if you get some of

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Speaker 1: it then you're out of field goal range. It gives

710
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: you other You know, team can't pound a hammer, you know,

711
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: put the final nail in the coffin. Offensively, you can

712
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: do all of that stuff, but that, to me, that

713
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: makes more sense. If you're worried about the offensive defensive

714
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: leverage that the game has always tilted towards the offensive side,

715
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: there are way better ways to do it, to go

716
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: back the other way, like the first the automatic first

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00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: down on a defensive pass holding, you know that that

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00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: it's going to turn down that.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like it's going anywhere. Based on the

720
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: coach McDermott described it, it sounds like there will be

721
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Speaker 3: discussion to come up with a variation of that rule.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if anything's going to get changed this year.

723
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Speaker 3: I think if anything, what the proposal by the Lions

724
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Speaker 3: is going to do ultimately is spark more conversation among

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Speaker 3: the Competition Committee members to say, Okay, we've got a

726
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: team that's not happy with this. They deem it too punitive.

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Speaker 3: We're not changing that, but what are some variations of

728
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 3: what they're proposing that we might be able to entertain

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00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 3: and work into the game. Again, that's the penalty that

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00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: would favor the defense. You're taking away the automatic first down.

731
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Speaker 3: And I can't remember the last time that a rule

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00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 3: was passed or a bylaw, or an adjustment was proposed

733
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Speaker 3: and passed that benefits the defense.

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Speaker 1: One of our listeners put in and say, don't make

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Speaker 1: it a just make it a regular holding penalty on

736
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Speaker 1: the defense. It's ten yards. So if it's third and twelve,

737
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: you go to it'll be third and two, and now

738
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: you got a chance, you know, instead of an automatic

739
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: first down it's five yards. But you can think of

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00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: making a ten yard penalty. That makes some sense to me.

741
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Speaker 1: Make it even steven on both sides of the ball.

742
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: If it's defensive holding its ten yards, if it's offensive

743
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: holding its ten yards.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me if that's one of those variations

745
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: that they in fact discuss. Let's go to the tweet

746
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Speaker 3: sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, official equipment

747
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Speaker 3: moving company of the Buffalo Bills. How might a tush

748
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: push band impact the Bills offense? Connor says, I don't

749
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: think there is much of a change for the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Josh follows the guard and whoever is behind him pushes after.

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Speaker 3: With McDermott on the Competition Committee, would seem he would

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00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: be able to understand it and work around it if

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00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 3: not Tye Johnson season yeah, or Ray Davis season yeah.

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Speaker 3: Ray's kind of a straight ahead guy.

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Speaker 1: It's funny the guys who the people who are you know,

756
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: stewing over this are the fantasy players who so, well,

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00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: that's going to be my touchdown, My guy will get

758
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: a touchdown or he'll get a you know, instead of

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00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: having Josh get these touchdown, It's gonna go to whatever

760
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: running back is, A short yard is running back, let's go.

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00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get that guy as a you know, fifth

762
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: round pick or whatever. I have no idea what I'm

763
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: talking about. I'm just saying, you know what I mean. Uh,

764
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Speaker 1: James Cook got a ton of touchdowns this.

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Speaker 3: Year, sixteen. Yeah, and eleven of those sixteen touchdowns were

766
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Speaker 3: from eight yards.

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Speaker 1: Or in right. That's the thing too, because he had

768
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Speaker 1: a lot of them that were not from two, five.

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Speaker 3: Four forty plus yards. Eleven of the sixteen rushing touchdowns here.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's eight yard line or closer that

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00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: to me. You know, a lot of a lot of

772
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: fantasy owners are like going, okay, yeah, house is this

773
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: is gonna effect wringing their hands a little bit because

774
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: now Josh QB you know, QB one, Allen is not

775
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: QB one anymore. Somebody else is, maybe because of the

776
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: fact that he's not gonna get those cheap touchdowns or

777
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: everybody said calls him cheap. But I don't know. It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to know what the word's gonna the verbiage

779
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: is gonna look like, if.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be something to the effect of assisting, because.

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Speaker 1: The different are, Yeah, you can't what.

782
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: You already can't pull the ball carrier.

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Speaker 1: You can't, right, you can push him, and you've seen

784
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Speaker 1: guys do it. We've all seen it, like even at

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00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: the end of a scramble or something where the quarterbacks

786
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: stood up, you'll get the offensive lineman coming and pushing

787
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: the pile forward, forward and forward. They can do that.

788
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: They can't pull him, but they can push him.

789
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Speaker 3: But on this play pushing would be outlawed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, on one play you're not going to be able

791
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: to do it. It'll be interesting to see what the

792
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: verbiage is and how they implement it and the officials

793
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: calling it and all that. But yeah, I don't know,

794
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm you know, I'm not. I would wait until

795
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 1: it's a bigger issue than it is now.

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Speaker 3: Oh so you would kind of just ta.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just leave it alone for the time being.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why all of a sudden, there's although,

799
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Speaker 1: you know, but if a team uses it two or

800
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: three times every single drive, at least use it once

801
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: every single drive. Okay, then and then it comes to

802
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: be it starts to be too big a percentage of

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00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: the entertainment value of the team.

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00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 10: You know.

805
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: Now I've got one hundred and fifty offensive plays, twelve

806
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: of them are gonna be these quarterback sneaks that are nothings.

807
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: It's like, that's why they took special teams and made

808
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: the clean hands rule. In the punt team, nobody wants

809
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: to see you punt again, you know, really, Oh, you're

810
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: accepting the penalty. Okay, you got to move them back five.

811
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: They gotta punch it again. Nobody wanted to see that,

812
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: so they just said, you know, if there's a penalty,

813
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: it just put it on the next play. That's kind

814
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: of what you're looking at with this. Nobody wants to

815
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: see these guys push for four yards or three yards

816
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: get a first down. Everybody on pile like, Yeah, that's

817
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: it's no fun. So that's part and parcel of I

818
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: think some of the crucks for the fans is, come on,

819
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't want to see this quarterback sneak stuff.

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00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: Fair.

821
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: It's like watching a kneel down.

822
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: Not quite but yeah, I get what you're saying. It's

823
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: not an explosive play by any means. Yeah, yeah, it

824
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: becomes uh, all right, what have we gotta do to

825
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: extend the drive? Okay, we're just gonna do this. We'll

826
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 3: see you on first down, you know what I mean

827
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 3: that kind of thing.

828
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. So and in the end room, you've you know,

829
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: you wasted the game clock, You've wasted the people's you

830
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: know you're sitting there. Yeah, I'm to me, that's as

831
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: much as what this is about as it is, you know,

832
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: be injury stuff.

833
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, break time for us here, but we will take

834
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 3: your phone calls when we come back. Got some people

835
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: holding for us at eight O three oh five fifty.

836
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Speaker 3: How might a toush push band impact the Bill's offense?

837
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Speaker 3: You let us know. Next here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 3: presented by a Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

839
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Speaker 3: Back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

840
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: on a Monday. How am I a toush push band

841
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: impact the Bill's offense? Maybe it's you see it as

842
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 3: a big deal. Maybe you say, not such a big deal.

843
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 3: It can work their way around that. You let us

844
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: know at eight oh three five fifty one, eight eight

845
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: five fifty two, five fifty as the vote will be

846
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 3: taking places at the league meetings tomorrow. To the phones

847
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: we go and leading us off today is art on

848
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 3: a cell? What do you got for us?

849
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: Art? Your own one?

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Speaker 3: Bill's Live?

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Speaker 12: Hey, Hi, how you doing? Thanks for taking my call? Listen.

852
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 12: I got a comment on this and and it's like,

853
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 12: I think it is a big deal. My comment is this,

854
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 12: these teams that can't do it or can't figure out

855
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 12: how to stop it, need to pull up their pants,

856
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 12: buffle their boots and figure out how to take care

857
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 12: of it and maybe do their own or figure out

858
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 12: a way to defend it. There's there's they're they're doing.

859
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 12: They're making too many changes here and instead of crying

860
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 12: and winding, figure out how to play football and defend it.

861
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 12: And That's what I'm thinking, That's what I'm saying about it.

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00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 12: Every time somebody gets a play or puts a play

863
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 12: or something together that works well, the NFL wants to

864
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 12: want to, uh a tinker with it. So that's my

865
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 12: stand on it, and uh it's solid and uh that's it.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks art. I mean it's it's I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't argue it. You know, Hey, you

868
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Speaker 3: want to you don't. You don't like the play, stop it,

869
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: make us do something else.

870
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I don't know if I

871
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: could think of another time when the league found something

872
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: they outlawed. I mean, I don't know whether it happens

873
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: all that much.

874
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: How much what the head slap got outlawed.

875
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but that's like face mask getting outlawed. Of

876
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: course you're gonna outlaw somebody taking a big right cross

877
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: to the head. And I really think I can think

878
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: it's Yeah, the clipping clippings outlawed, trippings out Yeah, but

879
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: those are those are techniques violent, violent, those are techniques.

880
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: That's not a play a plan. Yeah, yeah, you know,

881
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: so I don't know that they did that. I say

882
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: it all the time. You go back in the wedge

883
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: back in the nineteen.

884
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: Sixties, that's kind of a plan, right, now, yeah, I'll

885
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: say that.

886
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know I was, I busted up my

887
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: share wedgs, but that was totally that's totally player safety,

888
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: and they've gotten data to back it up. Like I said,

889
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: I I think this is it's too early in the

890
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: in the era of the tush push to say now

891
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: it's unfair or it needs to be or unsafe. Yeah,

892
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: I think it's too early for that. And I'm I'm

893
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: with him a little bit. I get it, and hey,

894
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: if you can't stop, it's just you want to outlaw it,

895
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: just because you don't want to get the guys that

896
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: can do it or figure out a way to defend it. Yeah,

897
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: nobody's interested in your problems, you know. Yeah, but I'll

898
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: say again, yeah, you're right, the game is getting safer,

899
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: and some people say less violent. But if you want

900
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: to go back and see something that's almost shocking, go

901
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: watch the nineteen sixties NFL films footage Field Level.

902
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 13: Oh.

903
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: They're like, it's a bar fight with huddles interspersed in it.

904
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: It is, it is. It is a bar fight. So

905
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: it's come light years from where it began. You get

906
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: guys like Merlin Olsen and Deacon Jones, and those guys

907
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: Henry nich Ray nichke it, you know, Dick Butkus. It

908
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: was off the chain. It was so violent, So you

909
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: know they can't if you want to. Yes, the game

910
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: is safer and it looks a lot different than it did.

911
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: It's better now, it's better.

912
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: Let's go to Ron in Buffalo next. What's up, Ron? Yeah?

913
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 14: How you doing? I mean, I kind of agree with art,

914
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 14: but you got to defend it. What about Uh? But

915
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 14: I guess you gotta have to get a fallback if

916
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 14: they ban it, or what about maybe you can only

917
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 14: use it, maybe like once a half or something like that.

918
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about that? To me, I feel like that

919
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 3: would be hedging, and that's usually not what the Competition

920
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: Committee does with all of the gray that's already in

921
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: the league. I think they're trying to be as clear

922
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: cut as they can, and I think they would view

923
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: that as a hedge, and they don't usually deal and

924
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 3: compromise that way. They will talk about alternatives, variations, but

925
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: that would be more I think of hedging on the

926
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: original intent of banning it.

927
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: So I couldn't see that. There's a lot of people

928
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: out there, you know that it's it's almost an acknowledgement

929
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: of you know, just maybe the league being too soft

930
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: to allow it to go on, you know, because that's

931
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: what player safety is. I mean, you're you're taking some

932
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: physicality out of the game and not letting guys who

933
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: are bigger, faster, stronger take advantage of their size, strength

934
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: and speed. And that seems unfair for those guys. So

935
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: what I get it. I like I said, I I'm

936
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: all for further study, but I don't I think it's

937
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: way too early to take a stand.

938
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: There isn't Yeah, there isn't a big sample size. Only

939
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 3: been doing this a couple of years.

940
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 10: Now.

941
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 3: Let's go to Mark in Orchard Park next. What's up Mark?

942
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 13: Hello? How are you guys? Let me turn my my

943
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 13: TV down? Yeah, okay, now I got you. So you

944
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 13: know we're talking about, you know, the Toush push. But

945
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 13: you know there's an individual out there. His name is

946
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 13: Watson from Florida Desmond.

947
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Toush push terminator. Oh all all four hundred

948
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: and sixty four pounds of them.

949
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 13: He fills three roles. We need somebody to be on

950
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 13: a D line. We need He would be a gillium

951
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 13: that you know, if he was just a block, or

952
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 13: he can carry the ball and you know, go over

953
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 13: into you know, for a touchdown. My point being is

954
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 13: I think he's viable for us to get later on

955
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 13: in the draft, you know, with maybe one of our

956
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 13: second fourth round picks.

957
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: For and you would do that for a guy that

958
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 3: would be useful for five plays a game.

959
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: Uh, well, I'm just I'm just asking.

960
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be Devil's advocate.

961
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 13: Here, Mark, Yes, I think So.

962
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: What is his what some of the guy's name.

963
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 13: His name is Desmond Watson. He can squat seven hundred

964
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 13: and twenty pounds. He just did the bench press record

965
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 13: for all the guys that just came to.

966
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 3: He had thirty six reps on the bench.

967
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 10: Uh.

968
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 3: Thanks, Mark, We're up against the break, so I gotta

969
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 3: cut you loose here.

970
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

971
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: He kind of made some waves last week because they

972
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 3: had Florida's Pro Day. He weighed in at four hundred

973
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 3: and sixty four pounds, so he was he was forty

974
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: pounds heavier than he played at, which was for twenty four.

975
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: He has he moves around a little better than you

976
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: would expect a four hundred and twenty plus pound man

977
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: to move, but you would almost be drafting him or

978
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: signing it to your roster as an undrafted player solely

979
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: to serve on those five or six plays. And maybe

980
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: that guy's NFL future rides on how this vote goes tomorrow.

981
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 3: We'll have to find out. But he waited four sixty four.

982
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: He had thirty six reps on the bench, and to

983
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 3: marks point, he squatted seven twenty five, which is impressive.

984
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 3: Gotta take a break here. Our number two is gonna

985
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 3: begin with some more draft talk. As set to join

986
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: us will be Tyler Dragon. He's gonna help us out

987
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 3: from USA today on some draft news and a mock draft.

988
00:50:47,040 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 15: We'll talk with him next.

989
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: The one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

990
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 3: All right, check it out with the show here on Monday.

991
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: Chris Ground, Steve Tasker review and please be joined now

992
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: by NFL and Insider for USA Today. It's Tyler Dragon

993
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: joining us. Had a very interesting mock draft that piqued

994
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: our interest because it went in an opposite direction where

995
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: everybody else has the Bills going at pick thirty. We'll

996
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 3: get to that in a minute, but Tyler, first of all,

997
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 3: thanks for joining us. Appreciate it. We know it's a

998
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: busy time a year for you with the draft closing in,

999
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 3: so thanks for doing it first and foremost, free agency

1000
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 3: is pretty much over. Teams are squarely focused on the

1001
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: draft now and getting ready for it, running through any

1002
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 3: in all scenarios, maybe working the phones a little bit

1003
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 3: to see if there's a place they can move on

1004
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: the board if they want to get there. What would

1005
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 3: you say, is some of where is the first pivot

1006
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: point you feel at the top of the draft?

1007
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 5: Here?

1008
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: Is it the Giants at three? Is it Cleveland at two?

1009
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: Where do you kind of see the first major pivot

1010
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: point where the draft can go in a whole different

1011
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 3: direction based on what that team does.

1012
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 5: I think you nailed it right there.

1013
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 8: It's at two and three with the Cleveland Browns, right

1014
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 8: there in the New York Giants, because I mean, I

1015
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 8: know the Titans and Brian Callahan and everybody are saying,

1016
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 8: we're not sold all the way on cam Ward. We're

1017
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 8: still going to do our due diligence, but I'm hearing

1018
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 8: it's going to take a king's ransom for the Titans

1019
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 8: to move off of that number one overall pick, and

1020
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 8: it will be a shock to everybody if they do

1021
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 8: not select cam Ward.

1022
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 5: Number one overall, so move them and cam Ward off

1023
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 5: the board.

1024
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 8: I'm looking at the Cleveland Browns and their owner he

1025
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 8: has them, just said today that it's pretty much been

1026
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 8: a swing and miss with the Deshaun Watson experience. So

1027
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 8: if it's been a swing and miss, and really your

1028
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 8: only healthy quarterback on the roster right now is Kenny Pickett,

1029
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 8: wouldn't you want to draft a quarterback with that number

1030
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 8: two overall pick and Chador Sanders.

1031
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 5: However, I'm hearing that teems like the.

1032
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 8: Cleveland Browns and the New York Giants they are not

1033
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 8: all the way sold on Sanders. Now, Colorado does have

1034
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 8: their pro day in April fourth, so that could change

1035
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 8: some minds there. But if the Browns don't draft a

1036
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 8: Shador Sanders and then you get to number three and

1037
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 8: you have the New York Giants and maybe they bat

1038
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 8: bypass on Sanders and select the Travis Hunter, then you see, okay,

1039
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 8: well where is Shador Sanders going to go? Because you know,

1040
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 8: teams who are quarterback needed, they're really trying to go

1041
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 8: up in the draft board. We see the top two,

1042
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 8: top three quarterbacks and every single draft go within the

1043
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 8: top ten, fifteen or at least you know the first

1044
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 8: round for the top three. So really it's those two

1045
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 8: teams because they can go in either direction, either drafting

1046
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 8: quarterback because they need a quarterback or getting the best

1047
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 8: player on the board. And in my opinion, that's Abdul

1048
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 8: Carter or a Travis Hunter. But to me, it's really

1049
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 8: the Browns because the Browns have a hole at that

1050
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 8: quarterback position. The Giants they have a stop gap quarterback

1051
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 8: right there in Russell Wilson, but that's not a long

1052
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 8: term answer, and you can see it by the one

1053
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 8: year contract that they gave him.

1054
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 5: So I think you're right. Number two and number three.

1055
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 8: That's when the draft is really going to start in

1056
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 8: a dominoes and the trickle down effect is really going

1057
00:54:59,520 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 8: to happen.

1058
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: So do you think is that do you anticipate movement

1059
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: out of the top five or into the top five?

1060
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 8: In my latest MOB draft, I have the Saints moving

1061
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 8: up in that top three and drafting Shador Sanders. Now

1062
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 8: I'm hearing that the Saints are trying to move up.

1063
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 8: Who knows that they're trying to move up to one

1064
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 8: or two or three, But the Saints their need of

1065
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 8: a quarterback. You look at what they've done, and Kellen

1066
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 8: Moore he inherited Derek Carr. They're not necessarily tied at

1067
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 8: the hip together, and you can kind of see him

1068
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 8: wanting to draft one of his guys at the quarterback position.

1069
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 8: So I can see teams trying to move up. The

1070
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 8: Titans have said that they are accepting calls and they're

1071
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 8: open to having dialogue. It's just to me, I don't

1072
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 8: believe that the Titans are going to accept the trade

1073
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 8: to move off the number one overall.

1074
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 3: There At the same time, though, we do see We

1075
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 3: see this every year. Quarterbacks get pushed up the board

1076
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 3: because teams are so quarterback needy. And I was wondering

1077
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 3: if the Saints were gonna be happy to just sit

1078
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 3: there at nine and maybe consider, you know, a Jackson

1079
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: Dart or somebody like that, or if Dart would last

1080
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 3: all the way to the Steelers down at twenty or

1081
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: twenty one. Do you see Jackson Dart getting elevated, especially

1082
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 3: if some teams are left out in the cold and

1083
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 3: they can't get up into the top five.

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00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 8: I certainly do, and it's happening right now. We hear

1085
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 8: it all every time every year, this time of year,

1086
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 8: where maybe the third quarterback on teams boards seems to

1087
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 8: be elevating trickling into the first round, maybe even to

1088
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 8: the teams the top fifteen. We're hearing that with Jackson Dart.

1089
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 8: Even Tyler Slow we're hearing that with him as well.

1090
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Speaker 8: So when you look at these quarterbacks, Jackson Dart is

1091
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 8: probably the consensus number three quarterback in this year's draft.

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00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 8: I can see him going in the top fifteen, team

1093
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 8: trying to move up to get him if he falls

1094
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 8: to the Steelers. We'll see if the Steelers land Aaron Rodgers.

1095
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 8: You know, I'm hearing that alf Rodgers was throwing with

1096
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 8: DK Metcalf out at UCLA this offseason, so that is

1097
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 8: an indication that he's probably going to the Steelers.

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00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 5: It's just a matter of when that's going to happen.

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00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 8: But he's at this point of his career. He's another

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00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 8: bridge quarterback and not the quarterback of the long term future.

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00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 8: So yeah, Jackson Dart with the Steelers, maybe the Giants

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00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 8: trade back into the first round and get him for

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00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 8: their quarterback of the future. But yeah, I do believe

1104
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 8: there will be three quarterbacks drafted in the first round

1105
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 8: of this year's draft.

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Speaker 1: And of course, we haven't even seen the dust settle

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00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: at that position with Aaron Rodgers still hanging out there.

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00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: The big move of the offseason quarterback wise, was probably

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00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: the Sam Darnell move to Seattle, and Seattle trading Geno

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00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: Smith to the Raiders where you know Pete Carroll the

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00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: new head coach there, which I mean Geno Smith and

1112
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: Sam Donald a few years ago, is like who cares?

1113
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna care, But now both these guys are in

1114
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: line to start for those respective organizations. I don't know

1115
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: that Seattle got the best end of it. I don't

1116
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: know what are your thoughts on how Seattle handled it.

1117
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: I know Sam Donald was the shiny toy on the

1118
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: shelf in this free agency round, but letting Geno Smith

1119
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: go for what he's done for them, it almost seemed

1120
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: like a lateral trade at best.

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00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 5: You took the words right out of my mouth. I

1122
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 5: actually wrote about this and at USA today dot Com.

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Speaker 5: I like the.

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Speaker 8: Geno Smith move a lot better for the Las Vegas Raiders,

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Speaker 8: And yeah, it is kind of a lateral move when

1126
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 8: you trade a Geno Smith and the Sam Darnald. In fact,

1127
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 8: Geno Smith historically has been better than Sam Darnald. And

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Speaker 8: now you put Smith in a comfortable environment with his

1129
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 8: former coach and Pete Carroll. They have a pretty good

1130
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 8: offensive line in Las Vegas. You know, you got this

1131
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 8: tight end position solidified. Maybe you want to get a

1132
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 8: running back ash and Genty at the top of the

1133
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 8: first round with that number six pick to build some

1134
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 8: more surrounding pieces and more weapons around Smith. But I

1135
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 8: think that's kind of a seamless transition to go to

1136
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 8: Las Vegas from Seattle.

1137
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 5: When you look at the Seahawks.

1138
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,959
Speaker 8: Sam Donald has never played well outside of Kevin O'Connell's

1139
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 8: system in Minnesota, and now you're putting him in a

1140
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 8: different environment where he has a new cast receivers. Yes,

1141
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 8: they just got an older Cooper Cup, Jackson Smith and

1142
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 8: Jigba is a potential star.

1143
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 5: But that's an environment where Sam Darnald has never been in.

1144
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 8: He's got paid over one hundred million dollars, so they're

1145
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 8: expecting that same type of level that he performed last season.

1146
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 8: But I have questions if last season was anomaly or not.

1147
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 8: To me, Sam Darnold has to prove that he can

1148
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 8: be a starting caliber quarterback and a Pro Bowl level quarterback.

1149
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 5: Year in and year out.

1150
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 8: And I have doubts because when you look at those

1151
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 8: last two games that he played in the Minnesota Vikys uniform.

1152
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 5: That last game of the season was a disaster against

1153
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 5: the Lions, and then I was.

1154
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 8: There in Glendale, Arizona, where he was just holding the

1155
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 8: ball way too long. It looked like he was seeing

1156
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 8: ghost again against the La Rams and that was a

1157
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 8: terrible performance from him there too.

1158
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 5: So is he the quarterback those last two games or is.

1159
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 8: He the quarterback that we saw maybe the first fourteen

1160
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 8: regular season games in Minnesota Vikings uniform. I happened to

1161
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 8: believe maybe he's a combination of both, is somewhere in

1162
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 8: the middle, But to me, that's not good enough to

1163
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 8: be one hundred million dollar quarterback.

1164
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Speaker 3: Talking with NFL Insider for USA today, Tyler Dragon and

1165
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: Tyler I'm going to dovetail off that. I mean, looking

1166
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 3: at his contract, it's essentially a one year guarantee for

1167
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 3: thirty plus million from Seattle. They can get out of

1168
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 3: that contract after this year. So how much are they

1169
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 3: at Pick eighteen a potential sneaky quarterback needy team.

1170
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 8: I don't think they're going to drift a quarterback and yes,

1171
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 8: I get it that it's ofsentially a.

1172
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 5: One year deal.

1173
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 8: I'm hearing that, Yes, they can get out of it

1174
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 8: if it's just a complete disaster this season.

1175
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 5: But when you go out and get a.

1176
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 8: Quarterback with that type of number, even above thirty million,

1177
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 8: that's starting caliber money, and you would hope that he

1178
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 8: can be your quarterback this year, next year, and then

1179
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 8: maybe sign him to an extension. Now, maybe they could

1180
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 8: draft a quarterback in the mid rounds to later rounds,

1181
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 8: But to me, I don't believe that they're in the

1182
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 8: quarterback market in the first round.

1183
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for it to be a complete disaster, it's

1184
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: not out of the realm of possibility because you've got

1185
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 1: all the Rams and you've got San Francisco here. Uh,

1186
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: but in Seattle in Arizona, I mean, it's it's not

1187
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: a nothing division with San Francisco standing there and of course,

1188
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: uh the Rams.

1189
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 3: At the top.

1190
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: So I'm, uh, you know, I don't I don't know

1191
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: that Sam Darnold is going to elevate the Seattle Seahawks

1192
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: to where they need to be elevated to to you know,

1193
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: to compete in that division. I I also one last

1194
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: thing about these quarterbacks, around where do you think Aaron

1195
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: Rodgers lands.

1196
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 5: He's going to Pittsburgh Steelers.

1197
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 8: I mean that, I mean I'm based in LA and

1198
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers lives down the street in Malibu. I almost

1199
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 8: want to knocking his door and telling hurry to make

1200
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 8: a decision, because it is pretty obvious that he's going

1201
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 8: to be a Pittsburgh steel He was just growing at

1202
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 8: u c l A.

1203
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 5: With DK Metcalf.

1204
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 8: That's a clear indication that they're trying to build a report,

1205
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 8: build chemistry with each other. And Mike Tomlin spoke today

1206
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 8: saying Aaron Rodgers does not have a timeline to make

1207
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 8: a decision, but it seems pretty clear to me and

1208
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 8: those around the NFL that he is going to wind

1209
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 8: up as a Pittsburgh steel is just a matter of

1210
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 8: when it's going to happen, when it's going to be official, all.

1211
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 3: Right, And then we have to cover this because you

1212
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 3: probably have the most unconventional pick at thirty for the

1213
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 3: Bills in your latest mock draft. You actually go offensive

1214
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 3: line here, So we need we need your reasoning and

1215
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 3: explanation as to why you think offensive tackle is maybe

1216
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: where Bills go at thirty here.

1217
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 8: So I had a couple different choices where I could pick,

1218
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 8: But to me, I had the best player available for

1219
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 8: the Bills, and when I look at him on Membo,

1220
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 8: he can put obviously that right tackle spot, but then

1221
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 8: his pro day and his combine, he really impressed scouts.

1222
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 8: And for the Bills, they can add to what is

1223
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 8: a strength. They can build on that running game, build

1224
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 8: on protect their huge investment.

1225
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 5: He invested a lot in Josh.

1226
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 8: Allen this offseason, and so why don't you build on

1227
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 8: a strength in adding the best player available in Membo.

1228
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 8: I mean, you can make a compelling case that he's

1229
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 8: the top offensive alignment in this year's draft. A lot

1230
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 8: of scouts do think that, And if he's going to

1231
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 8: be available at the end of the first round, why

1232
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 8: not take a flyer on him. Now I can see

1233
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 8: the Bills maybe addressing their secondary at the end of

1234
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 8: the first round, if certain players are available, maybe addressing

1235
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 8: more in that offense, that receiver. I do like the

1236
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 8: additions that they got Josh Palmer from the LA Chargers

1237
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 8: in free agency, but to me, they could even go

1238
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 8: another pass catcher with that spot at the end of

1239
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 8: the first round. But I do like that audition with

1240
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 8: the offensive lineman to kind of bolster a position right there, do.

1241
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: You think, can you We've heard a lot about the

1242
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: defensive lineman in this draft, big deep class. I think

1243
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: that this draft talent pool is tilted on one side

1244
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: of the ball or the other, offense or defense. Certainly

1245
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: the defensive line figuratively and literally or you know, way

1246
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: down the defensive side of the scale. But is is

1247
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: there enough offensive talent in this draft pool?

1248
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 8: So the defensive line is certainly the most talented and

1249
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 8: deepest position group in this year's draft. The offensive line,

1250
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 8: I think is pretty talented as well. When you look

1251
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 8: at the tackles and the guards, especially in the first

1252
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 8: two maybe three rounds of this year's draft. The scale

1253
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 8: position players after and for instance, tight end the first

1254
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 8: two tight ends when you look a bat the love

1255
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 8: lens of the world. After that, there is a steep

1256
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 8: drop off receiver. That's one of the weakest position groups

1257
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 8: in this year's draft in my opinion. So yeah, to

1258
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 8: your point, when I look at the offense as a whole,

1259
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 8: maybe after offensive line and maybe even running backs, every

1260
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 8: other position isn't considered a very strong position group.

1261
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 3: Tyler, Thanks very much for the time we appreciate you

1262
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 3: jumping on with us. We'll catch up with you further

1263
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 3: down the line this offseason if we don't talk to

1264
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 3: you before the draft. Enjoy it, man, I know it's

1265
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: Christmas for you guys.

1266
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 5: Yeah right, thanks for having me on. Enjoy your day.

1267
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 3: All right. That's Tyler Dragon jo joining us NFL Insider

1268
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 3: for USA today. I had to get him on. I mean,

1269
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 3: that was the most unconventional pick I think we've seen

1270
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 3: for the Bills, because almost everybody, with the exception of

1271
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 3: maybe a receiver here or there in mock drafts, have

1272
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 3: gone defensive line or secondary For the Bills at thirty,

1273
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 3: you can.

1274
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: See that the thought process of white teams do and

1275
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: I remember when the Giants won the Super Bowl with

1276
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: straight hand and all those guys up front, like Philadelphia.

1277
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: You think Philly would bulk at picking a D lineman

1278
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: in this draft. Probably not. They might take one, right,

1279
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: take another one. If you get something that you're really

1280
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: good at and can dominate with, don't let it become

1281
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: a weakness. Double down on it. I can see that

1282
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: although even the three guys say you take the top

1283
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: eight guys the Bills have on their roster. Now that

1284
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: we're on the roster last year. You gotta feel good

1285
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: about even the three backups that you've got.

1286
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 3: They're all under contract too, right, like Alec Anderson, Ryan Vandermark,

1287
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 3: both of those guys get resigned.

1288
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's really nobody there that you're gonna say,

1289
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: all right, if we draft a kid, we can you

1290
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: know whatever.

1291
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 3: And you have Tyland, Grabil, Cedric van Pray and Granger

1292
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 3: who were drafted last year. I mean they were in

1293
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 3: your top eight last year or top eight last year

1294
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 3: on game day.

1295
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: But the cofact matter is you're gonna bring in competition.

1296
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: It makes you better if he if they were to

1297
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Speaker 1: do that and they got even better up front and

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01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: more and younger and cheaper. Okay, I can see it.

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01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: And particularly if you're sitting there on the board and

1300
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: you got and you got this guy standing out and

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01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: he's like you think he's going to be this good

1302
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: as a pro, and everybody likedes and everybody else is

1303
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: down here, it's like, yeah, he kind of got to

1304
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I get, but that's the scenario, not

1305
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: just saying, hey, we're waiting for this guy to fall,

1306
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: we can get him, right.

1307
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've just seen a lot of mocks where people

1308
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 3: have Membo coming off the board, like in the top twenty,

1309
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 3: like yeah, because because the tackle class. It was interesting

1310
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 3: that he feels the tackle class is very good. I've

1311
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 3: heard mixed reviews on the tackle class, like there's a

1312
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 3: tier one, there's a tier two, and then there's a

1313
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 3: sharp drop off. And that's why I was of the

1314
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: belief that guys like Membo, because the tackle class isn't

1315
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 3: as deep as say the defensive tackle class or the

1316
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 3: even the edge class, that they're gonna go sooner, you

1317
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and not even get to thirty.

1318
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 3: But stranger things have happened, I guess. Yeah. Let's get

1319
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 3: back to the phones at eight oh three oh five

1320
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 3: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1321
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna get on board. Is we're asking you

1322
01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:00,839
Speaker 3: how might a tush push ban impact the Bill's offense

1323
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 3: this coming season if it is removed from the game

1324
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 3: in a vote that will take place at the league

1325
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 3: meetings tomorrow. Eight O threeh five fifty to jump on board.

1326
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 3: Let's go to Judy and Buffalo next.

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01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 15: What's up, Judy?

1328
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 9: I feel that I'm in neverland, all right? First of all,

1329
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 9: you just had somebody, an authority on the program who

1330
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 9: says that we should take an offensive tackle.

1331
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 11: Out of the realm of all possibility.

1332
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 9: Secondly, who cares about push push Unless we're in the

1333
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 9: super Bowl playing the Philadelphia Eagles, then I will worry

1334
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 9: about it.

1335
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:44,839
Speaker 11: Birt.

1336
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 9: I have to commend the Bills. I think they have

1337
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 9: made so many good choices lately, shining really impactful players

1338
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 9: defensively for four year contracts.

1339
01:09:58,040 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 12: I'm all for.

1340
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 11: Let us get the James Cook.

1341
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 9: Okay, all right, James.

1342
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 11: Cook has the benefit of the best quarterback in the

1343
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 11: league and a superior offensive line, and it's about time

1344
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 11: that somebody brings him back to reality, either franchise him or.

1345
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 9: Using his trade base. I don't care, but he is

1346
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 9: not that valuable.

1347
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 3: Okay, good opinions there, Judy, Thanks for the call.

1348
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they said the same thing. We were

1349
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: having Tyler Tyler dragging on and I go, Brownie, he's

1350
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: got us taking an offensive tackle on breaking.

1351
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 3: I was like, we were shocked. We're like, we need

1352
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 3: to we need an answer for that. That's why we

1353
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 3: had him on. That's why we had him on. What's

1354
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 3: your reason?

1355
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: Because I agree with you Judy, I don't think. I

1356
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: think that's remote offensive tackle, right, And you're right right now,

1357
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: the only team you really worry about is that would

1358
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 1: be the Philadelphia Eagles.

1359
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 3: I don't know the big offensive line of football.

1360
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: With the way the Bills they got four to seven

1361
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: when the Tush push against Kansas City, they're not scaring anybody, right,

1362
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: even with Josh at quarterback. And yes, Josh does elevate

1363
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: the play of James Cook and Khalil Shakir and everybody

1364
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: else on the offense. You know, everybody else gets a

1365
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: boost from having the MVP quarterback or a guy of

1366
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: Josh's caliber.

1367
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,879
Speaker 3: Sa Kwon Barkley didn't look too good in a Giant's uniform,

1368
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 3: but he had the best season of his career behind

1369
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 3: the biggest offensive line in football. And I think what

1370
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 3: you could argue as a top ten quarterback in Jalen

1371
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 3: Hurts with an all star receiving corps.

1372
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of guys do get elevated when there's

1373
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: good people around. I'm kind of with you on that

1374
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: as well, Judy. And we'll see. I think what's gonna

1375
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: happen with the Cookman. This is just me. I don't

1376
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 1: know Brannan and I don't talk to Brandon or any

1377
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: of these guys anything outside of media availability. I think

1378
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: the Bills are playing this exactly like they're gonna play

1379
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: or they played Gabe Davis and Tremaine Edmonds. Here's our offer.

1380
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: But you're perfectly welcome to go out and get one

1381
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: on your own. If the second year, if you can

1382
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 1: find somebody that's willing to give you life changing money,

1383
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: go you got to do it, and you know we'll

1384
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: shake hands, give you a hug, and send you on

1385
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: your way. But he's under contract for this year, so

1386
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: that's gonna be up to him. If he does not

1387
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,759
Speaker 1: want to play this year for the money on the table,

1388
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: which is like five million plus, that's on him, we'll see.

1389
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 1: That's that's if I'm him, I back up the first

1390
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: season and go again. He's only carried.

1391
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 3: We went to the Pro Bowl two years ago too.

1392
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: He's not gonna get three hundred and fifty carries, No,

1393
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: he's not. He's only going to get two hundred plus

1394
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: carries in the season. And I think he had two

1395
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 1: hundred less than two hundred and fifty touches this year.

1396
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 3: And I believe that's where the disconnect is between the

1397
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 3: Bills and James Cook. James Cook wants to get paid

1398
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 3: like some of the top acts in the league, and

1399
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 3: knowing that the Bills typically come to players during negotiations

1400
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 3: and say, look, we love what you've done for our team.

1401
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 3: Here are players with comparable workloads that we feel fit

1402
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 3: in the same category as you, and here's what they

1403
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 3: make in terms of average annual salary, and we'd be

1404
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 3: willing to pay you that kind of money.

1405
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: That kind are a little better because it's a top

1406
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: to market.

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01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 3: Deal, and he might well, it's clear that they were

1408
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 3: not on the same page.

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01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: That's the rub. What what is his role? They're going

1410
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: to pay him for his role. They're not going to

1411
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: pay him like one of the top backs in the

1412
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: league who play a different role for their team.

1413
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 3: Or a heavy or a more prominent, heavier workload role.

1414
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 1: A bigger role. They play a bigger role for their

1415
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: team than you play for ours. Yours is great and

1416
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: you're good at it, no question, But that's where the

1417
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: rub is. That's where the point of negotiation comes in.

1418
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: We want you to do this, and you're really good

1419
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: at it. We don't want to ask you to do

1420
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: what that guy or that guy does that's you know,

1421
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: that's what negotiation is. We'll see and and.

1422
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 3: They don't know and not all of them and the

1423
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 3: way you want him to.

1424
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, and he, like I said earlier in the program,

1425
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: you have to running backs are a different animal. They

1426
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: got to get it while he can get it because

1427
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, at thirty, most of the time they're just

1428
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: trying to hang on.

1429
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 3: Right, they're a role player.

1430
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, James Cook may get an extended year or

1431
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: two or three because of his lesser role here in Buffalo.

1432
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 3: So well, and he also, let's not forget, he also

1433
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 3: had a lesser role in college. Like there are not

1434
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of tread on those tires, right.

1435
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: So he could have a long doing what he's doing

1436
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: for the Bills. He could have a career. He could

1437
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: have a longer career, albeit with a lesser workload than

1438
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: other running backs may get a chance to have because

1439
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 1: of you know, because of the beating that position takes.

1440
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 3: I should have said, there's not as much wear on

1441
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,599
Speaker 3: those tires. Plenty of tread, right, Uh, got to take

1442
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 3: a break here. But if you're holding an eight H

1443
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 3: three H five fifty, we'll get to you when we

1444
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 3: get back. So Cleveland and Niagara Falls, Don and Orchard

1445
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 3: Park will lead off with you when we return. How

1446
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 3: might a tush push band impact the Bill's offense? You

1447
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 3: let us know next here on one Bill's Live presented

1448
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 3: by Collide Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, A Bill's Live

1449
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker and asking you at ATO three

1450
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 3: oh five fifty today, how might a ban on the

1451
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 3: tush push play impact the Bill's offense? Let us know

1452
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 3: what Ato three oh five to fifty. Some have said, Hey,

1453
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 3: that's a big problem. We got to keep that in there,

1454
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 3: and other people are like, ah, no big deal. Let'

1455
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 3: us come up with another play to use. So you

1456
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 3: let us know what you think at ATO three oh

1457
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 3: five fifty. Back to the phones and to Cleveland in

1458
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 3: Niagara Falls. What's up Cleveland, how are you doing?

1459
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 4: Guys? I don't think the tush push is that big

1460
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 4: of a deal for us. It feels like Josh Allen

1461
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 4: is good enough on the QB sneak to where the

1462
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 4: other team is gonna have to prepare for the fourth

1463
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 4: and short situations. They know he's not just going to

1464
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 4: do a conventional QB sneak. He's gonna he's gonna make

1465
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 4: a good decision when it comes to that short yard situation.

1466
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 4: It was really big for us on like you know,

1467
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 4: on the goal line. And I think again, they'll figure

1468
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 4: out something else, or they'll keep doing something where Josh

1469
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 4: Allen will still be successful in those QB sneak plays.

1470
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 4: I also want to keep beating the drum of Isaiah Simmons,

1471
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 4: Isaiah Simmons, Isaiah Simmons from Tennessee. Get that guy six'

1472
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 4: three three forty great in the. Middle i'm gonna keep

1473
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 4: beating that drum and, talking talking into. Assistance and For James,

1474
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 4: cook here's my. TAKE i WAS i was talking to

1475
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 4: somebody yesterday at my. JOB i Think Ray davis is

1476
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 4: a starting running back in this, league through and, through

1477
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 4: and if we Lose James, COOK i don't think we

1478
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 4: will miss a step With Ray. DAVIS i actually Think

1479
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 4: Ty johnson is a better pass catcher Than James cook

1480
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 4: coming out of the. Backfield i've seen him catch over

1481
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 4: the short of throws That James cook has. Dropped James

1482
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 4: cook is worth fifteen million, dollars without no. QUESTION i

1483
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 4: just don't know if he's worth. It to The bills

1484
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 4: because of how Good Ray davis. Is we could Call

1485
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 4: Frank Gorge junior up from the practice, squad get him

1486
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 4: in that, room get him in that.

1487
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 12: ROOM i don't.

1488
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 4: THINK i, mean, yes we will miss the Dynamic James.

1489
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 4: Cook don't get me. WRONG i want, him keep him.

1490
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 4: There but if we if we can't get to that,

1491
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 4: Number i'm not going to shed a tear BECAUSE i

1492
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 4: Think Ray davis is that.

1493
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 3: Good all, right you know that's your, opinion your title

1494
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 3: too At. Cleveland thanks for the. CALL i think there

1495
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 3: are different skill sets involved. There ray is AND i

1496
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,520
Speaker 3: Love Ray, davis BUT i think he's more of a

1497
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 3: straight line north south downhill, runner which can be very

1498
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 3: productive in THE nfl as. Well he proved last year

1499
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 3: he can make plays out of the. Backfield he had

1500
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 3: like two or three receiving touchdowns among some other plays

1501
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 3: pretty good in the open. FIELD i just Think James, cook,

1502
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 3: respectfully is a faster, athlete a little bit more elusive,

1503
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 3: athlete and just more dynamic. Overall, AGAIN i Love Ray,

1504
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 3: DAVIS i just don't know if his athletic profile raises

1505
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 3: to the level of A James. COOK i think it

1506
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 3: could be a very productive player for this. Offense but

1507
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 3: that's just kind of WHERE i kind of come.

1508
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: Down, YEAH i, mean you're not going to Replace James

1509
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: cook and the explosiveness he gave you in this offense

1510
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: unless you get a guy just like, him which is you,

1511
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: know it's hard to, Do josh said repeatedly last. Year

1512
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: Ty johnson's the best third down back in the. LEAGUE

1513
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 1: i get all of. That he's a really good, player

1514
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 1: And James cook fifteen million a year for running back

1515
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 1: in this, offense with this quarterback under the curtain structure

1516
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: of the, roster it just doesn't make to. Me it

1517
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense for this. Team roster. Building James cook

1518
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: makes sense for every team in the. League that guy

1519
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: can play for, Anybody but in this, offense after what

1520
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,799
Speaker 1: they went through last year with a vacated wide receiver

1521
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: room and then having the offensive year that they did

1522
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: this last, year that's a hard sell for. Me, now

1523
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: Certainly James cook was a big reason why you know

1524
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 1: they were. SUCCESSFUL i don't know that if you chop

1525
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 1: off the difference between, whoever whatever replacement you would have

1526
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: had For James cook and transposed it on to that.

1527
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: Season you, know If James cook hadn't played and they

1528
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: had to go without him and all that. STUFF i

1529
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: don't know that there's fifteen million different dollars difference in value.

1530
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: There that's the.

1531
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 3: Problem, Yeah AND i Think cleveland's mentioned this more than

1532
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 3: once when he's CALLED i think he's talking About Isaiah

1533
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 3: williams okay or not the defensive tackle prospect in the.

1534
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 3: Class not at the top of the defensive tackle. Class

1535
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 3: he's kind of second or third. Tier but he likes

1536
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 3: him a. Lot he has a good run. Stuffer we'll

1537
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 3: have to see where he comes off the. Board let's

1538
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 3: go To don In Orchard. Park what's Up? Don, hi.

1539
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 16: GUYS i don't know if the tush, push if it's,

1540
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 16: BANNED i don't think it'll hurt The bills either. Way

1541
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 16: but here's my thing was always as far as stopping

1542
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 16: the tush, PUSH i always, wondered why doesn't the defense

1543
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 16: do aush push back to. Them you, know you line

1544
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 16: up a big offensive lineman up another, one you push,

1545
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 16: Them And i've always wondered whether they didn't do that

1546
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:55,639
Speaker 16: to try and stop.

1547
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 3: It but you can't push players On you can't actively

1548
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 3: push players on, defense, Right, Steve you can't do. It

1549
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:02,799
Speaker 3: on a field.

1550
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: Goal yeah you. Can't, yes you can do.

1551
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 4: That.

1552
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 1: YEAH i don't know what makes you think they're not

1553
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: trying to do that?

1554
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 3: Now, YEAH i mean they kind of.

1555
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 16: THINK i don't, know MAYBE i haven't noticed, it BUT

1556
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 16: i it's just always my feeling, that, gee do a

1557
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 16: tush push back to. Them you do the same. Thing

1558
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 16: you know That philadelphia is going to do, it so

1559
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 16: you just don't do.

1560
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 13: That that was My.

1561
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean they kind of try to get low

1562
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 3: because everybody on the field knows low man wins on that,

1563
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 3: play and that's why the offensive linemen try to get

1564
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 3: lower than the defensive, lineman and the defensive linemen are

1565
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 3: trying their darn just to do the same. Thing, SO i,

1566
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 3: mean just pushed as a linebacker at the second, level

1567
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 3: pushing on a defensive lineman make a. Difference maybe it.

1568
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 3: Does i'm not convinced of. That AND i think if

1569
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 3: they felt they could get somewhere doing, that they would

1570
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 3: do it more. Often it's a short yardage play AND

1571
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 3: i think there's pretty straightforward way for defensive fronts to

1572
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 3: handle a short yardage. Play AND i don't think it

1573
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 3: there's too much. Deviation you, know you're indicating that maybe

1574
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 3: there should be all, right let's see if the play

1575
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 3: stays in and some people get more. CREATIVE i can

1576
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 3: tell you what The chiefs. Did they lined up in

1577
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 3: the neutral zone. Illegally that's how they stopped it and

1578
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,679
Speaker 3: waited for the refs to blow them blow the whistle

1579
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 3: for being in the neutral. Zone and they never, Did

1580
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,799
Speaker 3: and they stopped The bills three out of seven. Times

1581
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 3: and it was in large measure a difference making part

1582
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 3: of the. Game.

1583
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah if it's done, right it's hard to,

1584
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: defend particularly on when you've got like a less than

1585
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: a yard or less than a half a yard to.

1586
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: Go it's hard to stop any play for that unless

1587
01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: it's incomplete. Pass so, yeah we're gonna have to wait and.

1588
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: SEE i don't think it's gonna be that, impactful except

1589
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 1: for most fans when they sit, there they don't have

1590
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: to sit through a nothing offensive play to watch them

1591
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,799
Speaker 1: get pick up six inches by a big. Scrum everybody

1592
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 1: unpiles and they huddle up, again and now we can

1593
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: get on with the. Game that's the biggest part you'll.

1594
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 1: Notice so for, ME i think that's THAT'S i think

1595
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: that's the lead of this. Story you're not gonna have

1596
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 1: to sit through a nothing play, anymore, Right.

1597
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 3: Steve, Boy, steve if you've really kind of soured on the, play,

1598
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 3: NO i. DON'T i realize it's not, entertaining but, YEAH

1599
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 3: i don't if it's. Effective it is, EFFECTIVE i don't.

1600
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: Know, yeah with defenses getting lighter and lighter and smaller and,

1601
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 1: smaller and on the second, level you, know it's the

1602
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: pendulum is gonna. Swing we saw it swing a little

1603
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 1: bit this. Year The bills were a fifty to fifty

1604
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 1: run team and they scored more points than any team

1605
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: in franchise. History they were number one in the league

1606
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 1: and they ran at fifty to. Fifty then you got

1607
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: guys Like baltimore who had an incredible. Season, offensively that

1608
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 1: Was Derrick henry And lamar running the ball with a

1609
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: three hundred pound, fullback hard to. Stop Saquon barkley was

1610
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: on The world Championship Philadelphia eagles and they ran the.

1611
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: Ball that's you, know you're gonna have to respond to

1612
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: that with the philosophy if you're playing one of those

1613
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,839
Speaker 1: teams like The bills or the you, know The ravens

1614
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 1: or whoever.

1615
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 3: Else david on the. Tweets she tends to agree with.

1616
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 3: You he's, like they ban, it there's no. Impact the

1617
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,759
Speaker 3: tush push strikes me as a, fan it's pretty. BORING

1618
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 3: i can see McDermott's point that the wear and tearan

1619
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 3: players from the push as, possible even probable without. Evidence,

1620
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 3: however this is an odd reason and as quite, frankly

1621
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 3: the whole game is medically. Brutal all players are.

1622
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: Injured, so, Yeah david is having an issue With but

1623
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: the league and the people, involved they're not gonna just

1624
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: poop pooh the injury part of. It they. Can't, yeah they're.

1625
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 3: Responsible and they're arguing we're taking a proactive approach before

1626
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 3: the injury data is even there because we deem this

1627
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 3: to be a play that compromises player. Safe.

1628
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 1: Right it seems a common sense, thing and that in

1629
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,919
Speaker 1: and of itself is a little bit of a slippery

1630
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: slope to go.

1631
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,560
Speaker 3: Down, yes it, is because then you can wave the

1632
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 3: flag for almost any play without. Evidence after, that it's

1633
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 3: a it's a it's a it's a dangerous precedent to

1634
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 3: set in terms of making a rule.

1635
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: CHANGE i think it's too early to make a different

1636
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: a ruling about, it.

1637
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 3: And and, look seventy five percent of the vote is

1638
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 3: not nothing. Like you got to have a lot of

1639
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 3: backing for, that, Right And I'm i'm not certain they

1640
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 3: have the, votes but we could be. Wrong, Uh brian

1641
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 3: on the tweets sheet says very little effect. Here they

1642
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 3: are still going to have one of the best offensive

1643
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 3: lines in. Football plus they have jobs, also when it

1644
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 3: comes down to, it the reason they didn't make The

1645
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 3: Super bowl last year was because they failed multiple tush.

1646
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 3: Times they failed on multiple tush. Pushes, yeah they were

1647
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 3: only four to seven in the. Game so it's just

1648
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 3: a little over fifty. Percent so they were much more

1649
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 3: effective in short yards during the course of the regular.

1650
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 3: Season as a matter of, fact there was a time

1651
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,919
Speaker 3: where they were leading the league in fourth down conversion

1652
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 3: rate for much of the season and that changed precipitously

1653
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 3: in THE afc title.

1654
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: Game, right all, right so you got. WHEREVER i might

1655
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: have heard this, somewhere but you gotta play good on that,

1656
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: DAY i, was, YEAH i have heard. That i've heard it.

1657
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 3: Somewhere, yeah we have to take a break. Here when

1658
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 3: we come, back we'll see if we can squeeze in

1659
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 3: a phone call and maybe some final thoughts on the

1660
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 3: tweets sheeet next year On One Bill's, live presented By

1661
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 3: Collide Health's Buffalo Bills.

1662
01:26:47,600 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 10: Radio All, right.

1663
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,200
Speaker 3: Some final thoughts here on you, know the potential impact

1664
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 3: of the tush push play being. Banned the vote is

1665
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 3: tomorrow and as we said, that this is The Green

1666
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 3: Bay packers rule proposal to ban the, play and they

1667
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 3: will need twenty four of thirty two owner votes for

1668
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 3: it to be banned from play in the league effective

1669
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 3: this coming. Season duke Of blaisdell says on the tweet,

1670
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 3: Sheet allen doesn't need any help from, behind whether it's

1671
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 3: banned or. Not he normally has that yard before he's

1672
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 3: even pushed nine out of ten. Times he is a

1673
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 3: very good shortyardig. Player and you, know before this play

1674
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 3: became somewhat in vogue thanks to The, eagles he was pretty.

1675
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 3: Effective and, yeah converting it with the traditional. Sneak so

1676
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 3: probably not a whole lot of impact for The bills. Offense,

1677
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 3: YEAH i wonder if That eagles can come up, with you,

1678
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 3: know something equally effective if it's. Outlawed perts isn't as

1679
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 3: big a.

1680
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 1: Guy they'll always they'll always push the envelope on what

1681
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: they can get away.

1682
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 3: WITH i see what you're. Clever push the envelope And

1683
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 3: i'll see what you're.

1684
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 10: Doing, Now.

1685
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm not, smart But I'M I i still think it's

1686
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 1: early to make that. CALL i think it's a. Reactionary

1687
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: and that's one. Thing the league has never been.

1688
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:33,559
Speaker 3: Reactionary that is true radical. Either so if if if

1689
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 3: there is a portion of ownership that feels this is

1690
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 3: a rush to, judgment it's it's probably not going to

1691
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 3: be banned and the play will remain in The eagles.

1692
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 3: Playbook and, well now that'll be the really interesting, Thing,

1693
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 3: steve if the if the play is not, banned Knowing

1694
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 3: sean McDermott's stance on, it does his offense still run

1695
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 3: a version of?

1696
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 1: It they?

1697
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 3: WILL i mean you heard his reservations about it.

1698
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 1: Though, yeah but you're not Gonna you're not gonna put

1699
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: your team at a disadvantage by doing. It the problem

1700
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: is it the disadvantage would really be if you run

1701
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: it and then somebody does get, hurt you, know then

1702
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: then you got you want to be you don't want

1703
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: to be part of the. Data.

1704
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 3: Right well, Right that's Why i'm wondering if it stays

1705
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 3: in do they run it anymore or do they run something?

1706
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 1: Different they. Didn't they were all, Right but before it

1707
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: they'll be.

1708
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 3: Alright after we'll find out, tomorrow we'll see its way.

1709
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: The vote supper thumbs. Down what do you. THINK i

1710
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 1: think it's a thumbs.

1711
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 3: Down, YEAH i think it stays, in it doesn't get.

1712
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 3: Banned that's it for us. Today we'll see tomorrow one