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Speaker 1: the second hour. We still have two hours left. We

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Speaker 1: got Boris Rifkin with history coming up about thirty minutes

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Speaker 1: from now. If you miss the first hour. Got a

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Speaker 1: little upset in the beginning. I'm not going to do

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Speaker 1: that again about the Republicans being weak. You can download

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Speaker 1: the whole thing on iHeart, Google, Spotify, and iTunes. Also,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Turner stepped in, got us a whole lot smarter

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Speaker 1: about oil and energy and where everything is coming from.

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Speaker 1: I have something a little sappy before I get to

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Speaker 1: everything else. I'm actually gonna get to some emails because

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Speaker 1: I'm way behind to night and whatnot. But this is

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Speaker 1: going to sound like I have a heart, and I

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Speaker 1: want to be clear that I do not. I am

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Speaker 1: not a good person, a good person at all. I

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Speaker 1: know this, I admit this. There's nothing I can do

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Speaker 1: about that. I'm unfeeling. There's no think inside, there's no

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Speaker 1: soul in here. But I don't like when old men

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Speaker 1: deliver my food. And this is what I mean by that.

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Speaker 1: It's not obviously that I have a problem with the

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Speaker 1: old man. I respect old man, and I guess this

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Speaker 1: is naive but I just have this picture of an

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Speaker 1: but maybe his kids are there, grandkids backyard. Maybe he's

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Speaker 1: smoking a pipe, playing some chess, going golfing. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe that's naive. I hate when it

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Speaker 1: happened to me. Yesterday we ordered pizza. Old man came up,

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Speaker 1: does it to keep busy, I get that. Actually had

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Speaker 1: he's like, oh no, I'm happy, I'm retired here. He

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Speaker 1: That's not what I'm talking about. That that's that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I get that. I don't like it that an old

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Speaker 1: have anything else to say beyond that. I don't have

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Speaker 1: something I want to expand on. It's just it's been

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Speaker 1: like it. There's something of it, Chris did that makes

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Speaker 1: sense at all? It didn't make sense. It feels good.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know why I felt the need to

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Speaker 1: Right back to where we are before I get to

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Speaker 1: emails here, we cut off Russian oil. As you heard

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Speaker 1: from Daniel Turner earlier. We get about three percent of

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Speaker 1: our oil from Russia. So that's not good considering we

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Speaker 1: were already all getting slaughtered at the pump. Our fearless

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Speaker 1: commander in chief got up and spoke today, and it

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Speaker 1: will make America a world leader manufacturing and exporting clean

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Speaker 1: energy technology of the future to countries all around the world.

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Speaker 1: This is the goal we should be racing toward. Okay man, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he went on. Today, I'm announcing the United States is

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Speaker 1: targeting the main artery of Russian's economy. We're banning all

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Speaker 1: today is not without cost. Here at home, Putin's war

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Speaker 1: is already hurting American families of the gas pump. Since

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Speaker 1: Putin began his military build up in Ukrainian borders. Just

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Speaker 1: since then, the price of the gas of the pump

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Speaker 1: in America went up seventy five cents, and with this action,

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Speaker 1: it's going to go up further. It's simply not true

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Speaker 1: that my administration or policies are holding back domestic energy production.

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Speaker 1: If you believe any of that, make sure you go

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Speaker 1: back and listen to Daniel Turner from our one where

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Speaker 1: he destroyed pays all of that. That is a bald

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Speaker 1: faced lie. And actually, now that I think about that, Chris,

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Speaker 1: what does that mean? A bald faced lie? No, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have a bald face. I actually have

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Speaker 1: used that word that termed my whole life. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know where it means, Chris, don't just make things up.

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Speaker 1: I can make things up. Do you think you could

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Speaker 1: look it up? Please find out what anyway, back to

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, this Biden administration has made a policy

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Speaker 1: before Prutin never got to Ukraine cause a problem, Deny,

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Speaker 1: is hey, man, that's not my fault. It should motivate

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Speaker 1: us to accelerate the transition and clean energy. This is

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Speaker 1: are point back clean energy investment. Won't I mean explain,

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Speaker 1: get the idea. It's all a bunch of lies. Remember something,

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Speaker 1: the Communists leading up to World War One, before there

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Speaker 1: We honestly don't think enough about World War One because

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Speaker 1: And while we were in the middle of watching carnage

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Speaker 1: people like you were watching in horror. The communists they

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Speaker 1: Oh nice, this is going to present us an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to take power. Right now, the normal person cannot afford

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Speaker 1: We have an suv. It's eight years old now, so

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Speaker 1: it's now older, but it's not ancient, right, we have

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Speaker 1: It costs her one hundred dollars to fill up. Okay,

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Speaker 1: How are people supposed to live like that? And this

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Speaker 1: normal people supposed to afford that? And yet the Biden administration,

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Speaker 1: They're looking and saying, oh man, this is awesome. Oil

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Speaker 1: great opportunity to build more solar panels. I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: It's sick. They're out there saying it or and this

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Speaker 1: meat cake thing. You remember Dome from the other day. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna drive electric vehicles. This system has decided that

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Speaker 1: that's just part of the messaging. Here's regime apologist Stephen

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Speaker 1: Colbert used to be a comedian. Russia has been hit

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Speaker 1: that potent. We're not going to buy our gas from

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Speaker 1: a war criminal. We're gonna buy it from the good guys,

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia. But it's gonna cost. Since the invasion, oil

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Speaker 1: prices have skyrocketed. Today, the average gas price in America

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Speaker 1: hit an all time record high of over four dollars

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Speaker 1: per gallon. Okay, that stings, but a clean conscience is

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Speaker 1: worth a buck or two. I'm willing to pay. It's important.

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Speaker 1: It's important. I'm willing hold on, Chris before we let

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Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert's net worth seven seconds? How fast is the

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Speaker 1: internet in here? I'm gonna let him fish and pay

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Speaker 1: four dollars a gallon. Hell, I'll pay fifteen dollars a

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Speaker 1: gallon because I drive a Tesla. How much Chris, Stephen Colbert,

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Speaker 1: did you hear what he just said? It's all price

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Speaker 1: to pay for a clean conscience. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: He has a clean conscience. What do you have, peasant?

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Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert's worth seventy five million dollars makes fifteen a year.

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Speaker 1: Chris says, yeah, that network TV money's big boy money.

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Speaker 1: Do you notice any parallels, By the way, do you

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Speaker 1: gas prices and what you were told approximately two years

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Speaker 1: ago when coronavirus hit and they all decided you aren't essential,

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Speaker 1: and you aren't essential, and you should stay home. And

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Speaker 1: you remember what they all told us, Hey, quit whining

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Speaker 1: about your job. We're all in this together. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember being all in this together? I remember a bunch

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Speaker 1: video saying, we're all in this together. We're in this together. No, no, no, jerk.

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Speaker 1: to lead to a French revolution if this stuff continues.

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Speaker 1: Suck it up, peasant, buy a tesla. Oh okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: emails next because there's a lot more we have to

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Speaker 1: I have good news. I'm gonna give you that next.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna get to emails. Oh wait, I actually

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Speaker 1: have two things in good news. You know, you don't

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Speaker 1: I know that feeling of being unarmed when you're in

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Speaker 1: Go get a hero gun and maybe you're into yourself

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Speaker 1: right now, Jesse, I hate guns. That's fine. Look, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I would disagree with you. No judgment here though. Hero

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Speaker 1: gun is a non lethal gun. It shoots pepper balls

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Speaker 1: one hundred miles per hour. So that daughter of yours

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Speaker 1: a hero gun. When these pepper balls hit, they cover

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Speaker 1: the person who got hit with him in this brutal

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Speaker 1: chemical pepper cloud might save her life. Go to hero

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty dot com and use the code Jesse, get

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Speaker 1: yourself some peace of mind, get your daughter some peace

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Speaker 1: of mind. State restrictions may apply, He wrote twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: dot com code. Jesse. Is he smarter than everyone who knows?

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Speaker 1: Does he think? So? Yeah, the Jesse Kelly Shaw. It

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Speaker 1: is the Jesse Kelly Shaw. Oh and I have I

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Speaker 1: told you I have good news coming and I do.

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Speaker 1: But first, terrible news. Terrible news, Chris, guess what the

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Speaker 1: suits just hit me with during the break? What do

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Speaker 1: you care? This isn't going to affect you at all.

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Speaker 1: So get this. This is a radio show, right. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I know I don't have an important job. I sit

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Speaker 1: I don't have an important job. I realized that. But

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Speaker 1: up quote unquote tried is what you said. Would you

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Speaker 1: explain to people who don't know, they don't have your

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Speaker 1: depth of knowledge, what were these trials like? Because they

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Speaker 1: did have trials. I mean it was the relatively modern era.

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Speaker 1: There are pictures and letters and things like that, so

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Speaker 1: they did have trials. What would a trial have been

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Speaker 1: like back then? Well, well, these wouldn't These weren't those

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Speaker 1: famous show trials of the late nineteen thirties that people

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Speaker 1: are familiar with, the ones that you know were often done.

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Speaker 1: In this case, it was still done often under torture.

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Speaker 1: But you know that lasted days or weeks that were

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Speaker 1: well publicized and reported on, and you know examples of

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Speaker 1: senior officials or military leaders. Often these lasted literally fifteen

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Speaker 1: summary execution by military court martial in the field. And

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Speaker 1: that the local n KVD branches officials needed to meet

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Speaker 1: then from above they were urged to execute more people

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Speaker 1: and to you know, be more diligent what they were doing,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. And so these typically lasted. You know,

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Speaker 1: you were arrested, knock on the door, your family was

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Speaker 1: just notified that you you know, that you didn't have

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Speaker 1: a right of correspondence with them. Nobody knew your whereabouts

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Speaker 1: and nobody knew what happened to you. You You were just

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Speaker 1: basically presumed dead. And then decades later, in my great

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Speaker 1: grandfather's case, when we my family was able to access

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Speaker 1: the file, it basically was a twenty four hour procedure

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Speaker 1: between arrest, the trial, the sentence that was then written in,

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Speaker 1: and the execution. So this happened sadly, especially when it

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Speaker 1: came to more isolated parts of the Soviet Union, outside

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Speaker 1: We weren't talking about very long intervals with these trials.

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Speaker 1: Speaking with Boris Rifkin, who comes on every single Tuesday

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Speaker 1: at this time, given us real history of what communism

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Speaker 1: actually looks like on the ground you just heard it

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Speaker 1: right there. All right, let's fast forward to the end

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Speaker 1: of Lenin. You mentioned last week that the wolves sounded

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Speaker 1: like the wolves were starting RBS Stalin. It sounded like

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Speaker 1: of his life, or at least that's what I think

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Speaker 1: you indicated it from wrong. Please tell me, but please

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Speaker 1: explain what was happening with the power in the Soviet

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Speaker 1: to single individuals out. And he died a few months

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Speaker 1: later in March of nineteen fifty three. And at this point,

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Speaker 1: a pretty convincing body of evidence that those individuals who

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Speaker 1: he marked out decided, not knowing exactly what their fate

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Speaker 1: at the past effectively and facilitate his demise. And I

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Speaker 1: think at this point it's a few people really believe

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Speaker 1: that he died of natural causes. Boris Rifken, you are

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Speaker 1: a wealth of knowledge, and because you are and know

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Speaker 1: this region, I'm actually going to ask you if you

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Speaker 1: don't mind to stay and give us some actual knowledge

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Speaker 1: about current events over there. Do you mind that? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Boris Rifkin's wanted to be come right back and join

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Speaker 1: us and give us some knowledge on Ukraine, Russia, what's

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Speaker 1: going on right now. I want to read this email

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Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Show, and we are back with my

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Speaker 1: friend Boris Rifkin, who generally comes on every Tuesday and

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Speaker 1: gives us just a long history on communism in the

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Speaker 1: Soviet Union and makes us smarter. But since he is

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Speaker 1: I need to open the floor up for Boris really

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Speaker 1: quickly to his thoughts on Ukraine Russia. Boris, there's so

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Speaker 1: much information and bad information, and people are cheering for Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: but they don't know what to think. What are your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on it? You're the one with a history and

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Speaker 1: the knowledge there. Well, basically, Ukraine is fighting a patriotic

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Speaker 1: war for all intents and purposes, and that was not

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Speaker 1: be fighting. And at the core of it is Putin's

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Speaker 1: putin his vision of what Ukraine is, what Russia is,

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Speaker 1: basically be united in one federal union state where Russia

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Speaker 1: would be the senior tree, together with Belarus and maybe

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Speaker 1: a couple of other former Soviet republics. And his complete

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Speaker 1: misunderstanding of Ukraine and Ukrainian society and Ukrainian politics, and

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Speaker 1: deep personal resentments and contempt that has built up in

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Speaker 1: Putin and those in his inner circle and the Security

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Speaker 1: Council in Russia that effectively administers and governs the country

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Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, and has for a number

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Speaker 1: of years about Ukraine, and it stays so a lot

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Speaker 1: of what you are hearing that's being commented on about

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Speaker 1: Ukraine being in NATO or not in NATO, or in

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Speaker 1: the EU, or who it's going to be aligned with,

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Speaker 1: and you know, these separatist republics and this and that

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Speaker 1: to a large extent, that really diminishes in mind you

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Speaker 1: Putin's own ideological fixation on Ukraine and desire to ensure

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Speaker 1: that it takes instruction from Russia one way or the other,

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Speaker 1: either by being controlled directly by Russia or by having

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Speaker 1: his man in kievs the capital in Ukraine governing the

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Speaker 1: country taking orders from Moscow, which was what happened in

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen when you had that famous Maidan Ukrainian popular

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Speaker 1: uprising that led to the then president Yanokovich, who was

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Speaker 1: very pro Russian, being forced out and fled to Russian

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Speaker 1: has been protected by Putin ever since. Putin actually just

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Speaker 1: wheeled them out recently to give a statement urging the

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Speaker 1: Ukrainians to surrender and accept you do everything they could

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Speaker 1: to end the fighting quickly and so, and he still

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Speaker 1: has visions of reinstalling him or somebody like him back

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Speaker 1: into the presidential office in kievs. So that really is

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Speaker 1: the kind of general nutshell of what's going on. And

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Speaker 1: I think that on our end, in the US in particular,

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Speaker 1: nuances and the weeds and knowing the history and getting

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Speaker 1: into a kind of ideological focus of this, of the

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Speaker 1: motivations of the different parties. We tend to make it

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Speaker 1: easier for ourselves to try to reframe this as being

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Speaker 1: about NATO or about something that's easier for us to

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Speaker 1: understand and for us to then tackle with the tackle

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Speaker 1: as a policy matter. And I think that's very oversimplified.

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Speaker 1: So basically, as a result, there's no easy way out

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Speaker 1: of this. There's no clear off ramp. There's no magic

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Speaker 1: bullet that Ukrainians can offer to get Putin off their backs,

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Speaker 1: because it's a much deeper problem. Okay, So if there's

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Speaker 1: no if there's no off ramp, and Putin has to

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Speaker 1: take over this country or I'm assuming he dies, probably

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Speaker 1: alsted from power, but I mean it is Russia. Let's

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Speaker 1: just assume he dies in the end of this. What's

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Speaker 1: to stop this guy from flat out flattening Kiev, you know,

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Speaker 1: flattening other major cities there, slaughtering millions. What's to stop

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Speaker 1: him from doing it? I will be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: My overwhelming feeling is I'm concerned that we're going to

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Speaker 1: see mass death there. I mean, like a big bomb

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Speaker 1: of some kind going off in a civilian population. What's

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Speaker 1: to stop him from that? Well, let's also take a

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Speaker 1: quick step back. So what did he initially want? How

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Speaker 1: did he initially very quickly see this playing out? Originally, operationally,

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Speaker 1: he thought that this would be over in two maximum

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Speaker 1: four days. And that's why our intelligence agencies, our estimates

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Speaker 1: were coming out, you know, Kiv might be taken in

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Speaker 1: ninety six hours. We had a lot of those in

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Speaker 1: the days, in a week or so before the invasion happened,

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Speaker 1: of January. So a lot of what we were seeing

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Speaker 1: be over very quickly. A couple of cities, Kiv would

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Speaker 1: forces units. For the most part, the government would flee.

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Speaker 1: Zelenski was he didn't really take him seriously. He was

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Speaker 1: surrounded by entertainers and like this wasn't somebody he really

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Speaker 1: respected all that much. And he also thought that the

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Speaker 1: were waiting to be liberated from this gang as he

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Speaker 1: keeps calling them of neo Nazis and nationalists and all

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Speaker 1: the rest. That didn't happen, and instead you have this

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Speaker 1: going to double down and escalate. He's already begun doing that.

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Speaker 1: I think that unless he gets terms which are utterly

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Speaker 1: humiliating on the part of the Ukraine, and unless we

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Speaker 1: basically completely back off. He's now so irate about the

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Speaker 1: original plan falling apart, he's wanting he's going to look

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Speaker 1: to inflict as much damage as possible, maybe to set

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Speaker 1: up for the next round, or maybe just out of

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Speaker 1: a desire for some for vengeance and anger at the

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Speaker 1: fact that he wasn't given the reception that he thought

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Speaker 1: he would be given that. I agree that there is

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Speaker 1: really nothing stopping him from trying to do that, and

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Speaker 1: I would say one other thing that there is a

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Speaker 1: non zero chance that he may even consider contemplate using

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Speaker 1: tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine. And that comes from Russian

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Speaker 1: commentators who like follow for not official Kremlin people or

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Speaker 1: but people who are sensible, level headed analysts paid to

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Speaker 1: do this for a living to assess what Prutent is

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Speaker 1: thinking and not, and they're now saying there is a

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Speaker 1: non zero chance that Prutin is contemplating going that far,

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Speaker 1: not saying he will, but that he's open to the

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Speaker 1: possibility of potentially doing that or essentially resorting to what

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Speaker 1: he did in a letto. What you were centially referring

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Speaker 1: to the leveling cities. I think there's a real chance

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Speaker 1: that he'll do that. Good grief, brest Rifkin, Dude, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I should have given you a heads up ahead of time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for giving us all this knowledge and two segments tonight.

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Speaker 1: I just really wanted your point of view on this

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Speaker 1: much appreciated my brother anytime. Thanks Jesse, dude, is a

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Speaker 1: it reminds me of me? What? Chris? What? I'm a

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