WEBVTT - #799 Packers Unscripted: Heading west

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my

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<v Speaker 1>trusted colleague Wess Hodkoitz. We're coming to you Hear from

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<v Speaker 1>our studios at lambeau Field to preview Green Bay's Week

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<v Speaker 1>five matchup WES. It will be out in Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>at SOFI Stadium against the Rams. It is a three

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five pm Central Time kickoff, and we'll take a

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<v Speaker 1>look at the Rams here. It's a team that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people thought they'd be a playoff contender, and

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<v Speaker 1>they certainly can get back to that, but they are

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<v Speaker 1>off to a rough start. One in three a win

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<v Speaker 1>over San Francisco, but losses to the Lions, Cardinals and Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my, and the story, the story really has been

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries for the Los Angeles Rams. They are banged

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<v Speaker 1>up on the offensive line, they are banged up in

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<v Speaker 1>their receiving corps with Cooper cup who can Nakua both

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<v Speaker 1>out and it's just been a struggle for them to

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<v Speaker 1>score enough points on a consistent base.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a weird kind of matchup in that you have

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<v Speaker 2>a team at the Packers that are leading the league

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<v Speaker 2>right now in explosive plays. In when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>where the Rams have come up short so far in

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<v Speaker 2>addition to the injury category, it is kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>explosive plays. I don't know exactly where it fits for them,

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<v Speaker 2>but their longest carry of the season so far, fourteen yards,

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<v Speaker 2>was actually last week against the Chicago Bears. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a reception I think above maybe sixty three. It

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<v Speaker 2>has been hard tredging for this offense to go down

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<v Speaker 2>the field. Matthew Stafford through four games, only two touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been sacked thirteen times. It just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>gives you an idea of just kind of the gradient

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<v Speaker 2>that they've been sort of fighting against here in the

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<v Speaker 2>early part of the season, everybody understood to a certain extent,

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<v Speaker 2>this was going to be a transition year for them,

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<v Speaker 2>big changes on the defensive side of the ball. Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Donald no longer there. You're at your future Hall of Famer,

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<v Speaker 2>first ballot, unanimous Hall of Famer. He's gone from the

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<v Speaker 2>heart of that defense. They're still trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>their identity and offensively, Matt Lafleur said it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Matthew Stafford is as good as they come. In the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>but when you need a certain amount of weapons around him,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just seems like outside of maybe two two

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<v Speaker 2>at well, they just haven't been able to find that

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<v Speaker 2>next guy up in the wake of these injuries to

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<v Speaker 2>Cup in the KOA.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's I think it's paramount for the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers though, not to sleep on these guys, because you

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<v Speaker 1>do have Matthew Stafford back there. He is starting to

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<v Speaker 1>figure some things out with too two well DeMarcus Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>being his top two receivers, with those other, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pro Bowl level guys out of the mix right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the Rams were kind of starting to figure

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<v Speaker 1>something out offensively last week. They seem to move the

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<v Speaker 1>ball pretty well against the Bears, but they just kept

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<v Speaker 1>getting bogged down and kicking field goals, and the field

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<v Speaker 1>goals weren't.

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<v Speaker 3>Enough to chalk up a victory there.

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<v Speaker 1>So, as you mentioned, Stafford just has two touchdown passes,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also only has two interceptions this year. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like he's turning the ball over or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyron Williams, they're running back. He's got five rushing touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>already this year, which is a number that catches your eye.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's also only averaging three point five yards per

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<v Speaker 1>carry as as the number one running back in this offense.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Packers neat you know, this is a unit,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, it's trying to figure some things out,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers kind of have to keep this unit

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<v Speaker 1>down and not let them figure too much out here.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up there, they're going to be back at home.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's gonna be a fair amount of Packer

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<v Speaker 1>fans at Sofi Stadium. The Rams deal with this all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, where visiting fans just to invade their place

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't really have a Los Angeles fan base

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<v Speaker 1>of the size that you would think in a market

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So but they are back at home, they're

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<v Speaker 1>on the home turf, and sometimes when teams get desperate

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, that's when they play their best.

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<v Speaker 2>And Matthew Stafford is a portrait of that. Whether the

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit Lions were struggling or not, Matthew Stafford was always

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<v Speaker 2>a tough out for the green Bay Packers whenever those.

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<v Speaker 3>Two teams met.

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<v Speaker 2>The challenging part though, and the reason why I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's such a huge emphasis on why green Bay needs

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<v Speaker 2>to start fast and play clean football is because of

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<v Speaker 2>a stat you pushed out there earlier in the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the fact that the Rams through four games

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<v Speaker 2>have nineteen points in the first half, have been outscored

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<v Speaker 2>almost by triple in that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty eight to nineteen is the cumulative first half score

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<v Speaker 1>through the first four games for the Rams. That's just

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<v Speaker 1>a mind boggling number.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that actually is that is more than they've

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<v Speaker 2>been more than tripled. Yeah, at this point in the

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<v Speaker 2>first half. I mean yeah, And we saw last week

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<v Speaker 2>with the Packers and the Vikings. When you're playing from

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<v Speaker 2>that far behind it, it is not easy to call yourself

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<v Speaker 2>back into these things. And the danger that was omnipresent

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<v Speaker 2>with Cooper cup and the Packers have seen him time

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<v Speaker 2>and time again. They saw Pook and Naku on just

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<v Speaker 2>how he can change a game. They've had to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of piece things together a little bit more. There's still

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<v Speaker 2>guys in that offense with Parkinson and also with that well,

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<v Speaker 2>there are guys you have to be really cognizant of

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<v Speaker 2>and not allow them to beat you. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>take them very serious. But the Green Bay Packers, what

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<v Speaker 2>they've put on film offensively here through the first month

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<v Speaker 2>of the season, whether Jordan Love is in the lineup

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<v Speaker 2>or not, you have to feel good about Green Bay's chances,

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<v Speaker 2>but you also have to earn those chances against opponent

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<v Speaker 2>like this on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you mentioned defensively the Rams, Aaron Donald not there anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>He is retired.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a much younger group up front. They ranked last

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<v Speaker 1>in the league right now in rushing defense. They're giving

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<v Speaker 1>up one hundred and sixty five yards a game on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. And I'm not saying necessarily that you take

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers' game plan for the Colts game when Malik

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<v Speaker 1>Willis was first stepping in, and you know, you line

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<v Speaker 1>up to pound the ball down somebody's throat, right, But honestly, Wes,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to get out after these guys on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to take that mente, even if it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be fifty some carries. You have to take

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<v Speaker 1>the mentality running the ball that the Packers had against

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<v Speaker 1>the Colts when they knew it's what they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to do, they knew it's what they had to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to bring that mentality into this game because

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<v Speaker 1>if you can run the ball against the Rams the

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<v Speaker 1>way most teams so far this year, have run the

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<v Speaker 1>ball against the Rams and you have Jordan love Att quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>You ought to be able to have a good day

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<v Speaker 1>off one hundred percent. And for the Packers, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been doing this thing where it's kind of almost

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<v Speaker 1>this one for one Josh Jacobs, you know, Emmanuel Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>both of them kind of getting series trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>things a little bit lighter on Jacobs. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>to me the type of game where you really unleash him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if everything's good with the back, if he's

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<v Speaker 1>feeling good, you know, after a pretty heavy workload the

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<v Speaker 1>first month of the season. This game is tailor made

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<v Speaker 1>for him to be able to come out and play well.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other aspect of it, you mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>the run defense. They only have three takeaways so far

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<v Speaker 1>the season, one interception so far this season. They've just

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<v Speaker 1>been struggling to find plays. They don't have an inundation

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<v Speaker 1>of sacks so far this year. So if you come

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<v Speaker 1>out and kind of wear them down early on with

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Jacobs, it does it opens up everything

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<v Speaker 1>and it you know, fortunately, it sounds like the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>dodged a bullet with the Christian Watson scenario with his

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<v Speaker 1>ankle seems to be moving around okay, which considering for

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<v Speaker 1>a second there, I thought maybe he broke the darn thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>It weighed out good, especially especially when he gets cartered

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<v Speaker 1>off to the locker room and he doesn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>make his own way up the tunnel.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>So even if you don't have him though, still on

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday with guys like Dontavian Wis Jaden Reid the way

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<v Speaker 2>that he's come out of the gates so far this season,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to see that. Basically, what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 2>is I just want to see the Packers run their offense.

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<v Speaker 2>They put up a lot of yards last week, they

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<v Speaker 2>put up a lot of points, They made a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of herrors. They had some penalties, especially in the first quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>But one of the things they did so well in

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<v Speaker 2>those wins over the Colts and the Titans is they

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<v Speaker 2>ran what they wanted to run. It's gonna look different

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<v Speaker 2>Love under center, yeah, but they had a game plan

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<v Speaker 2>they executed it. That's where Green Bay needs to get

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<v Speaker 2>back to and that's that's by staying ahead of the sticks,

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<v Speaker 2>that's by protecting the football and yes to the original point,

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<v Speaker 2>that is, by running the ball down the opponent's gullet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you said it. It's a it's about

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<v Speaker 1>bringing bringing a game plan into a game and being

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<v Speaker 1>able to execute that game plan. And the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to execute your game plan and be

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<v Speaker 1>able to stick with it throughout the game is to

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<v Speaker 1>get off to a good start. That's not to say

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to jump on somebody ten to nothing

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<v Speaker 1>or fourteen to nothing. We saw even in the Titans game.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Packer's got a touchdown. Titans are spouning with touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>I was seven to seven, right, But you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>what happened against the Minnesota Vikings, where essentially you can

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<v Speaker 1>take about two thirds of the game plan like tear

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<v Speaker 1>it off and throw it in the garbage at halftime

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<v Speaker 1>because just you're down by so much, you've got no

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<v Speaker 1>you've got no way to dig into that. Well, keep

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<v Speaker 1>the keep the call sheet full, get off to a

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<v Speaker 1>strong start against these guys. They haven't started well. And

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<v Speaker 1>you said it too. They haven't taken the ball away.

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<v Speaker 1>Three takeaways, one interception, two fumble recoveries. On the season,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers are essentially averaging like three takeaways a game.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys only have three takeaways on the entire season,

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<v Speaker 1>So don't let them, you know, suddenly break their profile

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, get something going in that category. When

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<v Speaker 1>that's a category that coming into this game, you absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>should win it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. In the other aspect too, I mean the Packers'

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<v Speaker 3>pass rush.

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<v Speaker 2>For all the issues we've talked about and the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that it hasn't been as prolific as I think everybody

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<v Speaker 2>thinks it was going to be, they still have more

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<v Speaker 2>sacks in that game against the Titans than the Rams

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<v Speaker 2>have all season. I Rams only have seven sacks so

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<v Speaker 2>far this year, So listen at some point Sean McVay.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously, as we talked about Michael Flores's offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 2>they have some really smart people in that organization. They

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<v Speaker 2>are a lot like the Packers, a team that works

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<v Speaker 2>its way up through the course of the year and

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<v Speaker 2>peaks when they get into December. But still the stats

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<v Speaker 2>are what they are right now. The Packers have to

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<v Speaker 2>be If the Packers want to be the winning team

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<v Speaker 2>that I think you and I both feel they can be,

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<v Speaker 2>they have that potential there. This is the opponent where

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<v Speaker 2>you need to impose your well, it was my big

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<v Speaker 2>line and insider inbox. I just feel like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>take them for granted. But you also have to be

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<v Speaker 2>who you think you are to be able to come

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<v Speaker 2>out in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to be able to command things. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>sub or sub in a bowl. Cousin Subs fifty plus

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<v Speaker 1>years of better. We've touched on a number of things already.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it comes to the keys to victory in

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<v Speaker 1>this game, which one of all these various topics that

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<v Speaker 1>we have hit on rises to the top for me?

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<v Speaker 2>It comes down to explosive plays to turnovers. Ratio Packer

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<v Speaker 2>had a ton of explosive plays last week, but they

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<v Speaker 2>had too many turnovers. You can't have four turnovers expect

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<v Speaker 2>to win the game. Even if your defense gives you

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<v Speaker 2>another trio of them. You can't expect that you have

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to convert in those opportunities. But the

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<v Speaker 2>other aspect of it is the Greemit Packers are actually

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<v Speaker 2>finally playing a team somewhat due to injury, that is

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<v Speaker 2>about as young as they are. The Rams went many

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<v Speaker 2>years without draft picks. If you look at the construct

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<v Speaker 2>of their defense, it's made up now of a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Day two and Day three picks that have all

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much been within the last three years. As those

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<v Speaker 2>guys gain more experience, they're going to become bigger difference makers.

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay has to make sure that that doesn't start

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<v Speaker 2>in week five. And I feel like if you can

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<v Speaker 2>come out and really set the tone. I said it

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<v Speaker 2>last week. I'm not trying to toot my own horn,

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<v Speaker 2>but I said in that game against the Vikings, those

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<v Speaker 2>first fifteen minutes are going to be critical. The Vikings

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<v Speaker 2>dominated those first fifteen minutes and every way a team

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<v Speaker 2>could dominate them, and you saw how that what the

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<v Speaker 2>domino effect was at the rest of the game. In

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<v Speaker 2>some ways, fast starts are always important, but I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like this is another game that really encapsulates that because

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<v Speaker 2>if the Rams get feeling themselves a little bit. They're

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<v Speaker 2>playing in their own venue. They've been in some knockdown

0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:14.800
<v Speaker 2>drago games other than what happened against the Cardinals. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a team that has been in everything basically

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<v Speaker 2>since the beginning of the season. If they have that

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<v Speaker 2>type of confidence, in that type of swagger, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I get concerned. So for the Greenmit Packers, it's about

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<v Speaker 2>running your offense, protecting the football, and still managing to

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<v Speaker 2>develop those big plays that have really been the hallmark

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<v Speaker 2>of this team to this point of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's among those things we talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about getting off to a strong start, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what the Packers did against the Colts and against the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans when they didn't have Jordan Love at quarterbacks. So

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<v Speaker 1>get off to a fast start when you do have

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Love at quarterback. The Packers blew their chance essentially

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<v Speaker 1>for a really fast start against the Eagles in Brazil

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<v Speaker 1>because they couldn't couldn't execute in the red zone to

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<v Speaker 1>punch things in and ended up kicking field goals instead.

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<v Speaker 1>So give Jordan Love a strong start and then see

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<v Speaker 1>where this game goes. And then and then I think

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<v Speaker 1>the other The other things that are top of mind

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<v Speaker 1>for me are to run the football. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>this is a struggling run defense. And as much as uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Packers have plenty of weapons, even with

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Watson out for the time being, get that really established,

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<v Speaker 1>the one two punch with Josh Jacobs and Emmanuel Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>and get after that. And then on the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>just keep the Rams kicking field goals. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford is going to move the ball. He is

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, he is savvy, he is crafty, he

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<v Speaker 1>is going to find ways to move the chains. But

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<v Speaker 1>this offense is struggling to get touchdowns and they're kicking

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<v Speaker 1>field goals. And you have to keep it that way

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<v Speaker 1>because Sean McVay and Mike Lafleur are gonna come up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if they're struggling in the red zone, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to come up with some creative ways to change that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Packers have to stay on their toes and

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and keep these guys kicking field goals when

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<v Speaker 1>they getting close.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you look at this. I'm just taking one

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<v Speaker 2>more glance at this. I knew that the Rams were

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<v Speaker 2>thirty first in total defense right now, as you pointed

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<v Speaker 2>out how they're struggling against the run, they also are

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<v Speaker 2>right now second to last, only to Carolina in points allowed,

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<v Speaker 2>scoring defense twenty eight point eight points per game, third

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<v Speaker 2>down defense fifty percent, red zone twenty third, tied for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty third.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, there, it's interesting because it's it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like it felt like and I know they've had injuries

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<v Speaker 1>on offense since Week one, but in that Week one primetime, oh,

0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it was right the lot, you know, the Lions hosting

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew Stafford again, a rematch of that playoff game from

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and I thought the Rams defense played a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty darn good game. And then you know, the point

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<v Speaker 1>total rises a little because of the overtime touchdown, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in regulation they only gave up like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>points or whatever it was to the Lions. I thought, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams don't have Aaron Donald, but they'll they'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>be okay defensively. But since since Week one, that defense

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<v Speaker 1>has really really struggled.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Marvin Harrison Junior showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but two, but they didn't play very good defense

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<v Speaker 1>against the Bears last week, which was a team that

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<v Speaker 1>really had been struggling offensively with the rookie quarterback and

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<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff, and they didn't. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't put on a good defensive performance in Chicago, which surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay is going to go through a stretch here

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<v Speaker 2>and again, you can't look ahead to any of these opponents.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously there's a challenge that is present with all of them,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's gonna be some games here, Michael, where they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be favored. I mean, you, Jacksonville could win

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<v Speaker 2>the next two games and green Bay is still gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be favorite going down there at the end of this month.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and that's I think one of the main

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<v Speaker 2>messages I would have if I was Matt Lafleur this week.

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<v Speaker 2>You can play with any team in the league. You

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<v Speaker 2>you almost came back and beat a four to zero

0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota Vikings team that plays pretty all around good football.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw how things went with Philadelphia down in Brazil.

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<v Speaker 2>For as much as went wrong, the fact that they

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<v Speaker 2>were still in that thing, and then certainly despite not

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<v Speaker 2>having Jordan Love, were able to to execute and facilitate

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<v Speaker 2>those wins against the non conference slate. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>they have to do once again, you can't lose teams

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<v Speaker 2>that are struggling. I won't call them bad teams, but

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<v Speaker 2>the teams that are struggling and the Rams for everything

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<v Speaker 2>they've done and for how close they've been, they also

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<v Speaker 2>are one eye lashed away from being zero to four

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. So Packers have to prove that they're

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<v Speaker 2>a team that is better than their two and two

0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:24.800
<v Speaker 2>record right now suggests yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, looking elsewhere around the league in Week five, bye

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<v Speaker 1>weeks have arrived. The Detroit Lions got the early bye.

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<v Speaker 1>They are off in week five after their three and

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<v Speaker 1>one start. That's going to be very interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>how it plays out over the course of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>With as power packed as the NFC North appears to

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<v Speaker 1>be right now, the fact that after this week the

0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Lions are going to have to play thirteen consecutive games

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<v Speaker 1>without a break with having this really early by, so

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<v Speaker 1>something to keep an eye on as the season unfolds

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<v Speaker 1>for the Lions. London football is also back the New

0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.880
<v Speaker 1>York Jets and Aaron Rodgers. Rogers returns to the site

0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:11.800
<v Speaker 1>of the broken thumb at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. The Jets

0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.800
<v Speaker 1>against the Minnesota Viking Yahnesoda, taking its four and oh

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<v Speaker 1>record to London and.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go aeron.

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<v Speaker 1>And if if I'm reading the clocks right, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we wake up in our hotel rooms in la on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday morning and this London game starts at six thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, I am oh, yeah, So anyway, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if I'll be up yet throwing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if i'll be uh, maybe I'll catch

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<v Speaker 1>the second half. But yeah, London football is back and

0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the NFC North leaders are going across the ponds.

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<v Speaker 2>I get a big kick out of this man, because

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<v Speaker 2>the more and more this season has played out. I

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<v Speaker 2>knew this a little bit at the beginning, but to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like the schedule makers just started with the

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<v Speaker 2>Jets and then just figured out everything after that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so we want to have Aaron in the opener, we

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<v Speaker 2>want to have him down in London. We're gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>him on a primetime game in the first month of

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<v Speaker 2>the season. It's just funny how those things work out.

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<v Speaker 2>But obviously that's a huge game, not only for the Packers.

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<v Speaker 2>Would love nothing more than to see old QB one

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<v Speaker 2>come through and knock off his old NFC North rival.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you followed all the dialogue, the discourse and

0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.040
<v Speaker 2>the narratives come out of that last game for the Jets.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a pivotal point that they're reaching as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was a stinker of a loss for them

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<v Speaker 1>last week. There's no two ways about it. Bo Nicks

0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:35.520
<v Speaker 1>throws for sixty yards and the Jets lose ten to

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<v Speaker 1>nine on a missed field goal fifty some yard or whatever,

0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:43.719
<v Speaker 1>missed field goal at the horn. Just an absolute stinker

0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.159
<v Speaker 1>of a loss for the Jets, and they got a

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<v Speaker 1>bounce back quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>They found something out though, didn't they About Braylan Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like that that worm is beginning to turn

0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.920
<v Speaker 2>as far as how that backfield is constructed and with

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<v Speaker 2>him and Breeze Hall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and w curious where that takes him.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the Jets that they're obviously looking for a

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<v Speaker 2>response there, and it's a tough opponent to try to

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<v Speaker 2>get a response. Very very very intrigued to watch if

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<v Speaker 2>I can get a chance to catch it. Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 2>and what he does with that Brian Flora's defense that

0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:15.920
<v Speaker 2>we saw last week. Aaron is the master in terms

0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.400
<v Speaker 2>of picking those locks, and Flores is going to throw

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<v Speaker 2>the entire gamut at him.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine all of for all of Minnesota's confusion

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<v Speaker 1>and disguise and everything else, if there's a quarterback out

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<v Speaker 1>there who can decipher it at the line of scrimmage,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the one figure out and figure out what the

0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Vikings are doing while they're trying to confuse you on

0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.280
<v Speaker 1>every snap. Aaron Rodgers is the guy who just might

0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.440
<v Speaker 1>be able to do that any other games on the

0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Week five slate, that jump out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill's in Texans is huge. Josh Allen, I think is

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<v Speaker 2>playing like an MVP through the first month of the season.

0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I think he's been the player that that organizations needed

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<v Speaker 2>to be amidst all the changes that they made.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he just needs his offensive coordinator to not call

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<v Speaker 1>a trick play when right, when right, when you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the verge of basically being in command and pulling off

0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a comeback, you call a trick play that that goes

0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.040
<v Speaker 1>into disaster territory and anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, but it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and then also you got you got that

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<v Speaker 2>matchup with like the Cardinals and the forty nine ers,

0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:20.680
<v Speaker 2>two teams that are still trying to keep their heads

0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.080
<v Speaker 2>above water and then you know, I'll just mention this

0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.120
<v Speaker 2>because Monday night football is New Orleans and Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>I think from the initial reports I saw, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think Rashi Rice is in the cars, But man, have

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<v Speaker 2>you seen more instances now where something happens on the

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<v Speaker 2>field and it looks like, gosh, that guy's season is

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<v Speaker 2>over and now it kind of sounds like maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't an acl for him, although they've been really tight.

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<v Speaker 3>Lipped about it, yeah to this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, obviously, the Christian Watson thing here, the Jordan

0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Love thing. It's just it's funny how that game is

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<v Speaker 2>played sometimes and the times where a guy can have

0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.399
<v Speaker 2>a really nasty looking contact injury and then it's some

0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:58.760
<v Speaker 2>non contact thing that knocks somebody out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it is how that works. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It it just goes to show, like, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's no need to try to draw any conclusions about

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's injury just based on a replay and what things

0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.359
<v Speaker 1>look like. And I mean, you know, it's all about

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about what the MRIs and the scans and

0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.080
<v Speaker 1>images and all that stuff they do. It's it's what

0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.359
<v Speaker 1>they get from that. So I mean, hopefully for Rashid

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<v Speaker 1>Rice's sake, it's not an a c L. And maybe

0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:26.000
<v Speaker 1>he has a chance to come back this year. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, the Chiefs are gonna try to stay undefeated

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<v Speaker 1>against a against a Saints team that started out awfully strong, salty,

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<v Speaker 1>no salty, and now all of a sudden, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their narrative turned a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So Carolina Panthers heading into uh sold Soldier Field, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>see if they can do.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything with Andy Dalton. Andy Dalton, former Bears great, Yes

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<v Speaker 3>Bears legend Andy.

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<v Speaker 1>Daltons, the former Bears, the former Bears quarterback Andy Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>going back into Chicago, that that game is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be more interesting than people.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it will be. Again, as I always say, you

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<v Speaker 3>and I won't see.

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<v Speaker 1>It, and with that we'll call it a rap. On

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of Packers Unscripted, be sure to follow all

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<v Speaker 1>of our coverage of the team and all of our

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<v Speaker 1>coverage from Sunday's game at SOFI Stadium in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>We will be there and have it all for you

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<v Speaker 1>on Packers dot Com for Wesiammike, thank you for tuning

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<v Speaker 1>in everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>We will see you next time.