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Speaker 1: all right, switching gears North Korea. Kim John Nuon has

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Speaker 1: And and we think, you know, the President has taken

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Speaker 1: Where you know, we continue to put our head down

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Speaker 1: which is that we will never accept the annexation of

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Speaker 1: All right, Morgan, I know it's been a busy, busy

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours for you in particular, but I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you making the time for us, and hopefully you got

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Speaker 1: to celebrate just a little from that Philadelphia Eagles playoff

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Speaker 1: berth yesterday. I mean, it's amazing, right, and the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: didn't make it. Fly Birds Fly, Fly, Eagles Fly. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to Morgan Ortega State's Department spokesperson for checking in

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Speaker 1: and giving us an update from the state's department. Coming up.

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Speaker 1: What's on the panel's radar. Download the Bloomberg Sound On

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Speaker 1: on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio and Spotify. Kevin Cirelli,

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Speaker 1: you're listening to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Sound On with

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Speaker 1: Kevin Surreley on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven

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Speaker 1: So I'm Kevin Cereli, Chief Washington corresponded for Bloomberg Television

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Speaker 1: of Bloomberg Radio Seray, Kim, are the Cowboys? I know

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Speaker 1: you're down there in Texas and everything, but are the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys going to fire the head coach? Um? I think

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Speaker 1: that there is a seventy third chance of it. But

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, Jerry Jones, I'm gonna get rid. Also,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. Mr Jones said on the record that

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett has made his life fundamentally better over the

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Speaker 1: last decade. But as a Cowboys follower, that is demonstrably

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Speaker 1: not true. But for one season in the last ten

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Speaker 1: years that the Dallas Cowboys done anything worth it the

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Speaker 1: our title as America's team. And just for the record,

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Speaker 1: I want you to know my boyfriend Mike says for

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Speaker 1: you to stop me a hard time about the Cowboys. Wow, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a Marine. I don't want to. I just you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm an Eagles fan, Mike. I can't help it.

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Speaker 1: You got to own New York. He's a Browns fan.

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Speaker 1: So let's just put all that out there. I know

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in trouble for talking too much Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Eagles today, So in advance, I apologize to whomever is

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Speaker 1: listening to that that I've done that. Kevin Walling, what's

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Speaker 1: on your radar? What's on my radar is Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: doctor releasing a full medical report today clearing him to

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Speaker 1: be president for the next four years and obviously to

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Speaker 1: I can't think of anyone else in American politics to

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Speaker 1: numbers are actually up in the Democratic primary um, which

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Speaker 1: as a as a as a candidate and potentially potentially

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Speaker 1: the nominee. You saw some reports that you know, insider's

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Speaker 1: but I think it does speak volumes in a character

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Speaker 1: like Senator Sanders is still in it. Did you see

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Speaker 1: what he was in there? Say? Did you see what

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Speaker 1: Kevin Walling just did there? Kevin Walling is like the

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Speaker 1: Jedi of Democratic strategy. No, no no, no, no no no. Did

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Speaker 1: can't see it because we're already He did such. He

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Speaker 1: both Leolo, I'm here. You got a column out, You

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Speaker 1: got a column out on the Hill before I switched

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Speaker 1: to Sara, I do I do? It talks about dependent

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Speaker 1: voters and touch about independent voters who are at sixty

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Speaker 1: five percent disapproval rates of this president of his job performance.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be a universe of people that the

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Speaker 1: president is going to need to win back. He won

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Speaker 1: them anywhere between six and seven points according to exit

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Speaker 1: polling in sixteen. They make about about of the electorate.

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Speaker 1: He's going to need those folks back, and especially those

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Speaker 1: key states if he used to be successful. Impeachment has

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Speaker 1: actually affected them on like Republicans Democrats who see impeachment

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Speaker 1: through a partisan lens. Cool, what's on your radar? Ser Well?

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Politico, they just put out a story today

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Speaker 1: talking about how the birthrates in the United States is

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Speaker 1: lowest it's been since World War One as a result

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Speaker 1: of that payroll taxes are the lowest it's been since

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Speaker 1: World War One. And that's important because Social Security and

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Speaker 1: Medicare are funded by that. And you and I had

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Speaker 1: programs are funded. I think that's very, very interesting. What's

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Speaker 1: all My radar was that Margint Brendan former Bloomberg reporter.

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Speaker 1: Margaret Brennan's interview with the first daughter of Vanka Trump

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Speaker 1: She's enjoyed staying in Washington, d c. And that it's

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Speaker 1: my decisions will always be flexible enough to ensure that

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Speaker 1: will really drive that answer for me. When asked if

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Speaker 1: I think that for me, she says, I came down

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. What else did you get out of that

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Speaker 1: Avanca interview? Um, I think that Chelsea Clinton is going

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Speaker 1: to have somebody run against her. As long as we're

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Speaker 1: putting gold plate and names in candidacy's in New York State,

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Speaker 1: we might as well put Avonca in there. But I

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Speaker 1: very interesting. She was asked. She was asked if she's

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Speaker 1: going to pursue any political aspirations of her own, and

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Speaker 1: I think what she means is that politics kind of

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Speaker 1: has an element of kabuki theater. As much as Kevin

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Speaker 1: She wants to do what she wants to do within

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Speaker 1: how it works in politics. You either play to be

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Speaker 1: beaten up or you don't. What a nice way to

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Speaker 1: end up tomorrow? What's your new Year's resolution? Political? New

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Speaker 1: Year's resolutions? How about that? Quick? What? Or president? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to be White House Press secretary. I thought

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Speaker 1: you wanted That's not this is the first I'm hearing

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Speaker 1: of this, but I thought that you. Well, we're putting

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Speaker 1: of my New Year's resolutions is to run an ultra marathon,

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Speaker 1: like a just thirty one or fifty because I don't

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Speaker 1: want him on marathons for time because I think it's

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Speaker 1: I just because I just want to train for an ultra.

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Speaker 1: You're looking at me like I have for I don't

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Speaker 1: want to do that at all. But I wish you

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Speaker 1: a very happy New Year's Eve. Eve. Well, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I am also just going to say that I didn't

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Speaker 1: have a way to fit this into policy. But Sharon

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Speaker 1: So Sharon Stone is sixty one and she decided to

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Speaker 1: create a Bumble account so that she could get a date,

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Speaker 1: and Bumble blocked her because they thought she was a

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Speaker 1: just like, Bumble, don't block me. I'm real, I want

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Speaker 1: Bumble endorser or whatever. I want to know what Bumble

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Speaker 1: all right. Thanks to Sarai kim Go Eagles Sorry, and

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Speaker 1: thanks to keV Walling go Eagles. I'm Kevin CURRELLI you're

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