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Speaker 1: Good morning sweel then, welcome to the No Dunks Podcast
Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, May twenty one, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. I'm Jake here in the Classic Factory and
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Speaker 1: fun one here because we will get into the rookie teams.
Speaker 1: Trey Kirby's got tweeted the night. But we are doing
Speaker 1: our conference finals previews here for our two series that
Speaker 1: get underway tonight in the Eastern Conference. Let's begin there.
Speaker 1: The Pacers qualified for their first East Finals since twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: They began the playoffs as the number six seed. They
Speaker 1: beat Milwaukee with no Jannis, they beat the banged up Knicks,
Speaker 1: and now they face the conference's top contender here in
Speaker 1: the Celtics, who entered their sixth East Finals appearance in
Speaker 1: the past eight seasons. If you care, the Celtics won
Speaker 1: the season series with Indiana three to two. They played
Speaker 1: five times thanks to that in season tournament only. The
Speaker 1: last game saw Pascal Siakam in a Pacers jersey, So
Speaker 1: you know what, check it out, throw it out, none
Speaker 1: of it matters.
Speaker 2: Horor Pascalley played the Celtics a lot of time, including
Speaker 2: the Raptors, right, That's right, they lost a lot.
Speaker 1: He's got some experience against them. So yeah, the number
Speaker 1: one seeded Celtics versus the number six seeded Pacers, let's
Speaker 1: break it down. We'll get to our predictions. But what's
Speaker 1: one thing you're watching for in this series?
Speaker 2: Test pace. I know we always talk about the pace
Speaker 2: with the Pacers. That is their name, though, we got
Speaker 2: to talk about it. They are the fastest team in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. The Celtics are the slowest team in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Will the Celtics make shots enough to slow the Pacers
Speaker 2: down a little bit, because we know the Pacers like
Speaker 2: to speed up their versatile they are randomized. They do
Speaker 2: everything in their offense. They're gonna go through absolutely everyone.
Speaker 2: But but, but the Celtics are the best defense that
Speaker 2: the Pacers have played so far in the postseason. They've
Speaker 2: got that length and listen, sometimes they calm down. We
Speaker 2: may see a shootout Celtics, Pacers just let's just shoot
Speaker 2: it out and have a great fun game for the
Speaker 2: rest of us. And also, the Pacers are not faced
Speaker 2: as good as an offense as the Celtics team has been.
Speaker 2: They have been stacked. I know you you excluded Giannis
Speaker 2: from their their opponents this year's this playoffs and you said, hey,
Speaker 2: the Knicks are banged up. This is all true. The
Speaker 2: Celtics are just healthy and ready to go.
Speaker 1: And we Christis is not going to play the first
Speaker 1: two games.
Speaker 2: This is one hundred.
Speaker 1: Probably still have enough firepower them, but.
Speaker 2: They have many many fower firepowers. And I will well,
Speaker 2: I do want to see Tyres Haliburton, uh and who
Speaker 2: he's going to guard on on most likely Drew Holiday
Speaker 2: matchup because you can't hide him anywhere. The Celtics are
Speaker 2: just so versatile. They do have all these weapons well,
Speaker 2: whether Christops Porzingis is playing or not. So just just
Speaker 2: the fun pace of it all.
Speaker 3: Love a pace, love the pace, Love the the Pacers
Speaker 3: made it this far because you get to see the
Speaker 3: n season tournament mentioned in every single preview, right, you know,
Speaker 3: these are the two healthiest teams in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 3: No surprise, they actually made it this far. And I
Speaker 3: think you're onto something. I think Halliburton should absolutely guard
Speaker 3: Drew Holliday because I think that could maybe trick the
Speaker 3: Celtics into going to Drew Holliday. If you're the Pacers,
Speaker 3: you're living with a bunch of Drew Holiday post ups
Speaker 3: on Tyrese Halliburton. That takes the Celtics out of their
Speaker 3: drive and kick game. We know they like to get
Speaker 3: three pointers up. That's a huge thing for them. So
Speaker 3: the Pacers have been pretty good in this playoffs and
Speaker 3: during the season taking away three pointers. You can score
Speaker 3: inside on them, though, but we know the Celtics want
Speaker 3: to get three pointers up. That's how they have become
Speaker 3: the second best offense in the playoffs their first and
Speaker 3: three point rate. I wonder how the Pacers are able
Speaker 3: to keep oh pace with them from the three point line.
Speaker 3: A lot of that comes down to Tyreese Halliburton, I
Speaker 3: do believe, because he's gonna need to score in this series.
Speaker 3: He's the best offensive player on the perimeter for the Pacers.
Speaker 3: But the Celtics have a lot of guys they can
Speaker 3: throw at him. It's like Drew Holliday and Derek White,
Speaker 3: you can take two. We could go with Jason Tatum
Speaker 3: if we're feeling crazy. We need some size on him.
Speaker 3: Jalen Brown I think will be kind of like the
Speaker 3: third option. There as a kind of in between size
Speaker 3: and speed there. It'll be interesting to see how Haliburton
Speaker 3: attacks those guys. They're gonna try and send them left.
Speaker 3: They're gonna do everything they can to make anybody else
Speaker 3: beat them besides Halliburton. So getting three point attempts, getting
Speaker 3: into the lane, getting the driving kick game going, that's
Speaker 3: gonna be huge for Halliburton, but they need him to
Speaker 3: score efficiently as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs to have the series of his life
Speaker 1: for this to be competitive, or to even pull off
Speaker 1: the upset. Halliburton's production dipped in the four games he
Speaker 1: played against Boston. It makes sense. They're playing a lot
Speaker 1: of defensive minded guys, all defensive candidates, and Drew and
Speaker 1: Derek White just sixteen points per game. I'm even rounding
Speaker 1: up there a little bit forty one percent shooting for Halliburton.
Speaker 1: But he's got to be aggressive. You're gonna be happy
Speaker 1: if the three's fallen for him, but he needs to
Speaker 1: touch paint and probably get that floater going. They're gonna
Speaker 1: do drop coverage, you know, if it's al If Porzingis
Speaker 1: comes back in the series. That's how they've played them before.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be room there in the middle if you
Speaker 1: can get by those elite defensive guys on the wings.
Speaker 1: Got to hit that little floater. I think he's got
Speaker 1: to shoot it with some confidence and probably shoot it
Speaker 1: often because they don't need to. I'm gonna be throwing
Speaker 1: doubles at him. They're happy with guys playing one on
Speaker 1: one because they have so many elite defenders. But yeah,
Speaker 1: can they just stop them? Is the other point you
Speaker 1: said in your Boston is like incredible, that's going to the ball.
Speaker 1: They scored one hundred and twenty six points per one
Speaker 1: hundred possessions against Indiana the season. I was a little
Speaker 1: inflated because of that one hundred and fifty five point
Speaker 1: game I guess they had early in the year, but
Speaker 1: still some other high octane games. So just can they
Speaker 1: slow them down, because we even saw the Pacers against
Speaker 1: the Knicks there in some of those games it was
Speaker 1: high scoring affairs and we're stopping them for a majority
Speaker 1: of it. And Boston's even better offensively, so can they
Speaker 1: get enough stops?
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the top two offenses in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: The Celtics can do it. As Trey brought up, the
Speaker 2: time that the Celtics find a problem with their offense
Speaker 2: is when they're trying to do one particular thing, and
Speaker 2: that's it could be in this case, Dale trying to
Speaker 2: give it to tyres Sealiburn because they excel like the
Speaker 2: Pacers do when they give it to everybody. Yeh, when
Speaker 2: they make it all happen when they move it, when
Speaker 2: all five guys are getting into it. So it's really
Speaker 2: if the Celtics just kind of go back to their
Speaker 2: old ways and have a bad stretch. But they have
Speaker 2: been resting and ready for this series. They are absolutely fresh.
Speaker 2: They just give game twos away. That's what they do.
Speaker 2: They gave game two away in each of their first
Speaker 2: two series. So it's highly likely the Celtics will win
Speaker 2: game one. It's that game two mystery that if the
Speaker 2: Pacers can go into Boston and steal one.
Speaker 3: I wonder if the Celtics will play drop, especially with
Speaker 3: Porzingis out. Al Horford's a better switch defender than Porzingis is,
Speaker 3: and I think he's a little bit more comfortable there.
Speaker 3: You also saw in that Game five against the Cavaliers,
Speaker 3: the Celtics were saying, you're not taking three pointers, live
Speaker 3: in the lane if you want to. That's how Evan
Speaker 3: Mobley had a huge game, took twenty four shots in
Speaker 3: that one. So I think that's probably what the Celtics
Speaker 3: will do. They're gonna switch everything. Makes it even tougher
Speaker 3: for the Pacers to get three pointers up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And on the other side, does Al let a
Speaker 2: few rip from three point line because Miles Turner will
Speaker 2: want to be in the lane to help out on defense.
Speaker 2: And these numbers sometimes don't mean anything, but he did
Speaker 2: shoot six of eleven from three against the Boston or
Speaker 2: the Indian Pacers, excuse me from three, so they will
Speaker 2: try and get Miles as far away from the rim
Speaker 2: as possible because he is there to turn.
Speaker 1: Do you think you're not concerned? You said really at
Speaker 1: all that Porzenkis is not going to start this series
Speaker 1: in all likelihoods, maybe misses game one and two, and
Speaker 1: then we move forward there and maybe we see him Indiana,
Speaker 1: but Al Horford starts, Luke Cornette backup minutes. Do we
Speaker 1: see Tillman, do we see even Oshae Brissett? Does he
Speaker 1: get a chance here in a more athletic type of
Speaker 1: series and you're not going to be punished, but the
Speaker 1: size of Indiana probably What do you.
Speaker 2: Think I don't think so. No, To be quite honest,
Speaker 2: I think they want Christopsportzings back in this series to
Speaker 2: get him ready for the NBA Finals potentially right, and
Speaker 2: Game three would give him twenty five days off for
Speaker 2: the injury. Kelly Dwyer loves a good calendar, and I
Speaker 2: got that date from him, twenty five days off to
Speaker 2: help the bum CAF get ready for the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a problem. Does anybody else really
Speaker 2: think it's a problem that al Horford, who has been
Speaker 2: primed for these playoff minutes because he didn't play a ton.
Speaker 2: He did be played in the regular season, obviously, but
Speaker 2: they didn't have to go to him a lot. Plus
Speaker 2: they are arresting in the fact that they had two
Speaker 2: shorter series. Yeah, so I don't think it's problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely don't think it's a problem. I don't
Speaker 3: really think Tillman or Persette is going to factor into
Speaker 3: this series at all. I think Tilman's played like twenty
Speaker 3: five minutest hasn't touched the floor yet in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: But the Pacers did a pretty good job against the
Speaker 3: Knicks on the offensive glass, so you're gonna want a
Speaker 3: big out there at the very least. Though, I imagine the Celtics,
Speaker 3: if the Pacers are really really running, they could try
Speaker 3: five out play Tatum at the five if they really
Speaker 3: wanted to, and then who knows who comes in as
Speaker 3: the guard, probably Pritchard or something like that. But I
Speaker 3: don't think that Porzingis is necessary for the Celtics to
Speaker 3: win this series, right.
Speaker 1: And Missoula has been pretty hesitant to want to go
Speaker 1: to him as sort of a small ball center five.
Speaker 1: He likes the size there, so that's why we see
Speaker 1: Luke and stuff like that. And obviously Al Horford who
Speaker 1: has played great as the series went on. Against the Cavs.
Speaker 1: He was not hitting anything to start that series, but
Speaker 1: then sort of caught fire and you know, sort of
Speaker 1: found his rhythm, so he could be instrumental. Here. Is
Speaker 1: there anything else to watch for in this one? And
Speaker 1: you want to pivot to straight up X factors? We
Speaker 1: could do both teams if.
Speaker 2: You want, Yeah, let's do the five. Let's pivot.
Speaker 1: What do you got for an X factor?
Speaker 2: The two pests TJ McConnell versus Peyton Pritchard. I think
Speaker 2: that will be interesting because TJ McConnell was monstrous last series.
Speaker 2: He was so key against the New York Knicks and
Speaker 2: according to the stats he was eighteen of thirty three
Speaker 2: from the floor against these Boston Celtics. But Peyton Pritchard
Speaker 2: will have fun against him, so that matchup is going
Speaker 2: to be important. I think if there's anything that the
Speaker 2: Pacers do benefit from, it is their depth, and at
Speaker 2: times TJ McConnell was what was really huge. I mean
Speaker 2: he created turnovers in the backcourt in both of these series,
Speaker 2: so that's really important, and Payne Pritchard I think will
Speaker 2: be up for the challenge when he looks into the
Speaker 2: mirror and he sees TJ mcconalll. I know they play
Speaker 2: a little differently, but they're going to be in that
Speaker 2: same role. So just that matchup is interesting. Pritchard really
Speaker 2: has to be up in TJ McConnell because TJ mcconnald
Speaker 2: can cause it a big problem. So that matchup will
Speaker 2: be fun for me and it is key, I think
Speaker 2: for Indiana to win that thing to win this series.
Speaker 1: Indiana's bench was phenomenal against the Knicks really throughout the postseason,
Speaker 1: he said McConnell. I mean, he's been one of the
Speaker 1: biggest stories from the postseason. Eleven points per game in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He had forty two assists to just ten
Speaker 1: turnovers in that Knick series. Obie Toppins averaged eleven points
Speaker 1: per game in the playoffs. He hit a decent number
Speaker 1: of threes against the Knicks, seven to sixteen, so not
Speaker 1: a huge volume, but knocked him down. Ben Sheppard been
Speaker 1: rebounding really well for a shooting guard when his opportunity.
Speaker 1: He's shooting forty seven percent from deep in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And then Isaiah Jackson, who's played the less of those guys,
Speaker 1: the fewestmount of winnets. Excuse me, but a hustle guy
Speaker 1: maybe gives you ten minutes per game. Maybe we see
Speaker 1: him a little bit more about block shots. He's been
Speaker 1: a positive in almost all his games against the Knicks.
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, the X factor for the Pacers to
Speaker 1: make this interesting. Halliburton's got to be a star. But
Speaker 1: these guys got to continue to play at this elite
Speaker 1: level because it might be might be one one tiny
Speaker 1: advantage when you do the old columns between the two teams,
Speaker 1: but can they keep it up against a much better
Speaker 1: Celtics team.
Speaker 3: That was my X factor as well. Who's going to
Speaker 3: be the best white guy in this series? McConnell or Pritchard.
Speaker 3: That's kind of what it comes down to, because the Pacers,
Speaker 3: their bench was a major advantage against the Knicks. Of course,
Speaker 3: the Knicks bench didn't get a whole lot of run there,
Speaker 3: and you know, was depleted by the end. But I
Speaker 3: still think that the Pacers can probably run against this
Speaker 3: Boston Celtics bench, though you know they'll be blended lineups
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. So a little further down on
Speaker 3: the X factor list, I think is going to be
Speaker 3: Drew Holliday's offense because it would be smart of the
Speaker 3: Pacers to make him beat you. Because there are good
Speaker 3: games from Drew Holliday. We've seen a lot of good games.
Speaker 3: We've also seen a lot of games where he's forcing
Speaker 3: it a lot of turnovers, can't really get into his
Speaker 3: offense efficiently. I think he's going to be getting a
Speaker 3: large part of the Halliburton Assignment defense lay, so he's
Speaker 3: probably putting a lot of effort there. If the Pacers
Speaker 3: can trick the Celtics into a one on one game,
Speaker 3: that definitely favors them because a mishot there going the
Speaker 3: other way. That's how the Pacers want to play.
Speaker 2: Speaking of white guys who can help, Sam Houser can
Speaker 2: help the Boston Celtics because Indiana hasn't really faced a
Speaker 2: guy like this off the bench in their two series
Speaker 2: here against the Knicks and Milwaukee. Sam Hauser would be
Speaker 2: the best shooter out of all between both those teams
Speaker 2: coming off this bench, and he can let it rip,
Speaker 2: so that is something they have to guard. He can
Speaker 2: literally fill it so that there is that you're right
Speaker 2: about the advantage for the Indiana Pacers has to be
Speaker 2: their bench. It really has to be. So they have
Speaker 2: to watch Sam Hauser for those open threes.
Speaker 1: Are you excited to watch Nie Smith do his best
Speaker 1: to slow down A Tatum. I assume that will be
Speaker 1: majority of his assignment, maybe some Jail and Brown. But
Speaker 1: you know, Tatum and Brown had great numbers against the
Speaker 1: Pacers in the regular season in terms of scoring the ball,
Speaker 1: and you know, we barely even talked about them here.
Speaker 1: It's just like we're sort of just put them in
Speaker 1: Pennett feels like for their numbers exactly. You know, the
Speaker 1: only thing bad thing is Tatum can't hit a three
Speaker 1: to save his life. Right now, if you're a Pacers fan,
Speaker 1: you're hoping that continues. But speak to that matchup there
Speaker 1: and Nie Smith. You know the revenge series here, it's
Speaker 1: a team that's sort of a cut him and let
Speaker 1: him go and all that.
Speaker 3: I think Aaron Nesmith is the Patrick Beverly of the wing.
Speaker 3: He's tricking, y'all. He just tries really really hard. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he's guarding on the ball. He gets lost on
Speaker 3: backdoor cuts. He's not really an offensive player unless he's
Speaker 3: hitting threes, which is up and down for him. So
Speaker 3: I think he needs to be effective offensively for the
Speaker 3: Pacers and then hopefully slow down one of either Tatum
Speaker 3: or Brown, which is a tough spot for him because
Speaker 3: guess what, there's another guy who could go off. You know,
Speaker 3: like we barely even get to Jason Tatum and Jalen
Speaker 3: Brown until we're at the end of the X Factor series.
Speaker 3: These guys are averaging basically thirty a game, yeah, throughout
Speaker 3: the playoffs, so they could use a second Niemith honestly, Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's so many Yakam. I guess has got to be
Speaker 3: a good defender as well. We haven't mentioned him yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, they're obviously they have guys.
Speaker 1: They have size, at least in theory on pay to
Speaker 1: slow them down. But like Jalen Brown's completely overlooked throughout
Speaker 1: the entire postseason. We barely talked about the Celtics, for
Speaker 1: being honest, because they've taken care of business outside of
Speaker 1: these weird games they have in Game two and they're
Speaker 1: suddenly like, oh my god, we got a one one
Speaker 1: series and then they dominate from there on out. I'm
Speaker 1: interested to watch and this is by way of Schumann.
Speaker 1: You know, the Celtics have played basically no clutch time
Speaker 1: in this postseason. I think it's seventy nine seconds where
Speaker 1: the score was within five points in the last five
Speaker 1: minutes of the fourth quarter. So nine of their ten games,
Speaker 1: including both of their losses, they're double digits. Like, they're
Speaker 1: not close games. Now, I'm not like worry some or
Speaker 1: worried that if they get in that like, oh, they'll
Speaker 1: just panic and don't know what to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have great star players, but they just haven't had
Speaker 1: to play. Any of the Pacers have played I think
Speaker 1: four clutch games already and I think they split those.
Speaker 1: Just so I hope we get close games. I just
Speaker 1: don't know if we will continue with the Boston Celtics
Speaker 1: here in just these blowout varieties.
Speaker 2: I think one thing we do overlook when we look
Speaker 2: at the Pacers versus Celtics in the regular season or
Speaker 2: just the Pacers overall, is that their defense has gotten
Speaker 2: better as the season has gone along and in this postseason.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, Tatum and Brown are good against them,
Speaker 2: but they do have four really good defenders besides Halliburton,
Speaker 2: the other four guys that they play in Nie Smith
Speaker 2: and them Hart and Turner and Siakam are good defenders
Speaker 2: to start, and then there's more off the bench. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so for sure, absolutely they changed defensive team. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they put they put Ni Smith and them Hart
Speaker 2: into the starting lineup to be pests. So there's that.
Speaker 2: But the Celtics are just damn talented and they fire
Speaker 2: away from three. They've average averaged thirty eight threes per
Speaker 2: game here in the first two rounds. And you just
Speaker 2: think that they are more talented offensively than the Inana Pacers,
Speaker 2: which is odd to say because the Pacers are so
Speaker 2: damn good offensively, But then the Celtics do have the
Speaker 2: good defense as well. So yeah, it's a very well
Speaker 2: rounded team. There's no doubt, do you think.
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about the Pacers obviously getting a
Speaker 1: little injury luck here against the teams they play, and
Speaker 1: there's no doubt with the Giannis and then obviously Nicks.
Speaker 1: But do you think the Pacers are better than the
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty one Hawks comparable much worse like these
Speaker 1: teams that make sort of surprise runs to the conference finals.
Speaker 1: Where do you like have this Pacers team and sort
Speaker 1: of the hierarchy there equal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't I don't think that.
Speaker 3: I think the Knicks would have beat him if they're healthy,
Speaker 3: and I think Buck would have beat him they're healthy,
Speaker 3: right right, right, So I mean that kind of falls
Speaker 3: along the same lines as the Hawks, where it's like
Speaker 3: Ben Simmons had a mountdown Joelle and beiid couldn't hang
Speaker 3: onto the ball in Game six and seven. They went
Speaker 3: to the conference finals. But that's kind of how it
Speaker 3: goes in the playoffs. A lot the healthiest teams get there.
Speaker 3: The Celtics haven't played a healthy team yet either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good to play point prediction time. Where are
Speaker 1: you going? How many game?
Speaker 2: There's gonna be some weird stuff because the Pacers haven't
Speaker 2: lost a home game in months, It's been a long
Speaker 2: time March eighteenth. But the Celtics haven't lost a game
Speaker 2: on the road this postseason, so something is going to change.
Speaker 2: But the Celtics have lost both game twos. As I
Speaker 2: said earlier, I do think the Celtics will get on
Speaker 2: a roll just because they have had a lot of
Speaker 2: rest to win Game one and the Game two is
Speaker 2: a question. This one. I think they'll just feel better,
Speaker 2: and this is the biggest stage for the Pacers and
Speaker 2: since the since the is a what a stage that
Speaker 2: was in Las Vegas, Well, I wish I was there
Speaker 2: to see that stage. I have Celtics in five. I
Speaker 2: do think that they'll They'll take care of home in
Speaker 2: the first two games for the first time this postseason,
Speaker 2: so I think that's a big factor in this.
Speaker 1: You see Indiana winning one of their home.
Speaker 2: Games, Yes, for sure, I hope, so, I hope.
Speaker 1: So Celtics in five seems like a very common pick here.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you go sweet, maybe you think it's longer.
Speaker 1: What's tray curb?
Speaker 2: You think?
Speaker 3: I think the Pacers are going to win game one? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 3: the best most whole team that Boston has faced yet
Speaker 3: in the playoffs as some major change in style from
Speaker 3: the way they've been playing. They played against Cleveland. They
Speaker 3: played against Miami teams that wanted to generally slow it down,
Speaker 3: though Cleveland started chucking at the end of the series
Speaker 3: when Donovan Mitchell was out. They also haven't played for
Speaker 3: a week. The Celtics have played ten games in thirty
Speaker 3: seven days. It's unbelievable, Like you have to remember, Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: the Celtics are in the playoffs, the team that was
Speaker 3: the best record for the entire season. Yeah, they're still going.
Speaker 3: So I think I will go for the Celtics in six.
Speaker 1: Okay, they will.
Speaker 3: It'll be two too after four games, just because the
Speaker 3: three point variants. There will be a game when the
Speaker 3: Pacers out shoot the Celtics. It happens every series, right.
Speaker 1: I'll go with task. I'm going Celtics in five. I
Speaker 1: don't think though, I'd love it for the narrative of
Speaker 1: the series. If Indiana pulls off this game one victory tonight,
Speaker 1: but just too much talent, you know, there's obviously the
Speaker 1: experience factor we just said, this team has been to
Speaker 1: so many conference finals. They also be and again, like
Speaker 1: this is set up so perfectly for the Celtics. They
Speaker 1: could not be set up better for them to obviously
Speaker 1: go to the championship and to maybe win the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Now that Denver, the only team that sort of had
Speaker 1: their number during the regular season, is completely removed as well,
Speaker 1: So I will go Celtics in five. There will be
Speaker 1: a game, of course where Indiana, probably at home, gets
Speaker 1: helped from their bench. Maybe Helliburton has a star performance
Speaker 1: and that'll be enough. But I'm going with the common
Speaker 1: pick here. It feels like that's the most most common
Speaker 1: pick up seat Celtics in five. We have the poll
Speaker 1: going up there on YouTube.
Speaker 3: Forty eight percent say Celtics in four or five, thirty
Speaker 3: four percent say Celtics in six or seven, sixteen percent
Speaker 3: say Pacers in six or seven, and zero percent going
Speaker 3: for Pacers in four or five. Okay, which I think
Speaker 3: is fair. That's fair.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Okay. Well, let's move over to the Western
Speaker 1: Conference Final Game one. It's gonna mark just the second
Speaker 1: postseason series between the Wolves and Mavericks. The last playoff
Speaker 1: matchup between these two came in the opening round of
Speaker 1: the two thousand and two playoffs, when we saw a
Speaker 1: fifty seven win Dallas squad defeat Many three to zero
Speaker 1: before they lost in the next round. But more recently,
Speaker 1: Minnesota finished three and one against Dallas during the regular season.
Speaker 1: Luca missed two of those games, Kyrie set out three,
Speaker 1: and all of them occurred before Dallas brought in Daniel
Speaker 1: Gafford and PJ Washington at the trade deadline. I want
Speaker 1: you to throw those games up, Okay, they mean nothing.
Speaker 1: So number three Wolves versus the number five MAVs. Very
Speaker 1: excited here matchups. Yeah, you got your Andrew Wiggins Minnesota
Speaker 1: tim Midlals jersey.
Speaker 2: On my time. It's time wow to pull out of Minnesota.
Speaker 2: I just love the blue more so than anything.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: If there's an Andrew Wiggins autograph on the back of this,
Speaker 2: I totally had forgotten about that, but it's it's autograph.
Speaker 2: The number two. They also sent a shoe.
Speaker 3: Right they did?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the old Wigans shoe. Just one this to the starters.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, interest, I took it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what are you watching for in Wolves MAVs.
Speaker 2: Also the first time probably that Dallas is hosting both
Speaker 2: a conference finals and a conference final in hockey, the
Speaker 2: conference final, don't call me finals. The Dallas Stars hosting
Speaker 2: as well. What exciting Stars Oilers, Stars Oilers. Oilers took
Speaker 2: care of business against fan City yesterday.
Speaker 3: Ryan Nugent Hopkins scoring. He was raised in Barnaby, vc BC,
Speaker 3: only eight miles from the arena. He was so excited
Speaker 3: to be playing a game seven.
Speaker 2: There, right, yeah, absolutely, what a nugent of information there,
Speaker 2: What a name nugent?
Speaker 1: Right man?
Speaker 3: No basketball on last night? You can watch whatever you
Speaker 3: want It was the sympathizer and Game seven of Boilers
Speaker 3: Canucks for me, that was the sympathizer. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, so far we're three episodes in and Robert
Speaker 3: Downey Junr Is playing four roles. Oh Jesus, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's like naughty professor mode. Check it out.
Speaker 2: That was the TNT show for a second. The sympathizer.
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards. He hooked me in when he said post
Speaker 2: the series against the Nuggets, he said, I'm guarding Kyrier
Speaker 2: Ving next series. He got mem Yeah, and Kyrie as
Speaker 2: good as he was defensively against Jalen Williams against Okay, see,
Speaker 2: in round two, he didn't have to do that much offensively.
Speaker 2: They weren't running plays for him. Kyrierving, the talented Kierving
Speaker 2: averaged only fifteen point seven points per game in round two.
Speaker 2: Very weird stuff. So you know, he will have I
Speaker 2: think a little bit of ease on the other end. Defense.
Speaker 2: Will probably have to guard some Conley and some mcdanielson.
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll have to guard Edwards because that's where Dallas
Speaker 2: suffers a little bit. I mean, who's gonna guard Anthony
Speaker 2: Edwards Probably Luca, but anyway, just the fact that Anthony
Speaker 2: Edwards said I'm guarding Kyrie is going to be interesting
Speaker 2: to me. And if Kyrie can turn it up a
Speaker 2: little bit, because he is going to be needed very
Speaker 2: much to be a better offensive player, if they're going
Speaker 2: to be able to beat the Timberwolves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to be a fun matchup. We have
Speaker 1: the league's highest scoring duo against one of the best
Speaker 1: pairs of perimeter defenders in McDaniels and Edwards. Everybody's bringing
Speaker 1: up that clip from a regular season game. I know
Speaker 1: they don't mean anything, but that one where they did
Speaker 1: a good job. McDaniels and Edwards did of sort of
Speaker 1: shutting down Kyrie and Luke at the end of there,
Speaker 1: and they're like, who' shooting it? Who's shooting it? Who's
Speaker 1: shooting it? And they were doing a good job on them.
Speaker 1: So that is going to be a fun fun watch.
Speaker 1: What are you watching for in this.
Speaker 3: Best player wins this series? Okay, who's the best player?
Speaker 3: That's the question for me. Is it going to be
Speaker 3: and Edwards or is it to be Luka Doncic Luca
Speaker 3: more established, He's been to a conference finals, all the
Speaker 3: All nbas in the world basically since his rookie season,
Speaker 3: and Edwards though, feels like he's got a lot of
Speaker 3: momentum behind him and not great matchups. I don't think
Speaker 3: for him on the Dallas side, like Derek Jones junior,
Speaker 3: He's probably getting the majority of that assignment on Edwards,
Speaker 3: I would imagine, but Kyrie will guard him a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think maybe Dante Exam gets a little turn. I
Speaker 3: think Josh Green will guard as well. So the MAVs
Speaker 3: are gonna have to be really schemey with things, which
Speaker 3: we saw quite a bit in their Thunder series. They
Speaker 3: were at boxes and elbows on Shay the entire time.
Speaker 3: They would double him, they would double Jalen Williams. They're
Speaker 3: gonna pack the paint, so the three point shooters from
Speaker 3: Minnesota are gonna have to hit for Luca. It all
Speaker 3: comes down to controlling his emotions. It really really does.
Speaker 3: Because Jaden McDaniels is a guy who likes to get
Speaker 3: under your skin. He's gonna have to be up on
Speaker 3: Luca because I don't think he has the bulk that
Speaker 3: like Alu Doort does to be able to be physical
Speaker 3: with him. I'm also a little worried about will he
Speaker 3: be poised enough, because that's a guy who can go
Speaker 3: just a little bit over the edge, I think as well.
Speaker 3: But it's gonna have to be an efficient scoring uh
Speaker 3: series from Luka Doncic, which we haven't really seen yet
Speaker 3: in this playoffs. He's been getting his numbers like I
Speaker 3: don't even think we mentioned the guy was like a
Speaker 3: thirty point triple double in their last game to close
Speaker 3: out the Thunder. But he still hasn't shot the ball
Speaker 3: really well, hasn't shot it very well from three. So
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see if Luca keeps the crown between
Speaker 3: these two guys or if Aunt supersedes him. And I
Speaker 3: really really hope we get these two talking trash to
Speaker 3: each other. These are like two of the biggest trash
Speaker 3: talkers in the game, and they'll do it NonStop.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, absolutely love all that stuff. I'm also watching
Speaker 1: the offensive glass. These are the two best offensive rebounding
Speaker 1: teams left in the playoffs, both the Wolves and the Mavericks.
Speaker 1: The Mavericks they got at least fourteen offensive rebounds in
Speaker 1: four games so far in the playoffs. But Minnesota, man,
Speaker 1: they got the size, like these guys are jumbo. We
Speaker 1: got Rudy kat nasried. They're gonna try their best to
Speaker 1: limit those second chance opportunities. So that's something to watch.
Speaker 1: Like some of these teams, Both of these teams, I
Speaker 1: should say, like a little sloppy with the ball at times,
Speaker 1: and so you know they can they both have to
Speaker 1: be really good on the offensive glass when you're talking
Speaker 1: about possessions. So who can do a better job at
Speaker 1: getting those second chance opportunities which more times than not,
Speaker 1: you know, you get the rebound, they'll lead out to
Speaker 1: a or they get kicked out to a three point
Speaker 1: shooter who usually knocked it down in rhythm. So fun
Speaker 1: fun stuff. X factor either team, where are you going
Speaker 1: this is?
Speaker 2: This is a deep one. It's a deep cup. But
Speaker 2: I think, just like what the Minnesota Timberwolves did against
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets, where Rudy Gobert was basically sort of
Speaker 2: along the baseline at times guarding Aaron Gordon, he was
Speaker 2: allowed to stay near the rim and that helped them
Speaker 2: a lot. I think them haves really really really need
Speaker 2: Maxi Kleba back, and it'd be huge just to get
Speaker 2: Rudy Colbert the heck away from the rim as much
Speaker 2: as possible. He would play the five and there would
Speaker 2: be no choice, but Rudy Gobert would have to go
Speaker 2: out to take him outside, because we've.
Speaker 1: Seen that before. Yeah, twenty twenty two, get in the
Speaker 1: matchup between the Mavericks and then go Beart when he
Speaker 1: was with the Jazz.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Luca was able to abuse Rudy Gobert in
Speaker 2: that matchup, they'd get the switch and he would be
Speaker 2: really good on him. Now, Rudy Gobert has improved even
Speaker 2: since then, so I don't doubt Rudy Gobert's defense. It
Speaker 2: will be interesting to see how many bodies as you
Speaker 2: went through. Luca had to be guarded by Dort last series.
Speaker 2: Now it's McDaniel's a different body type, but a long, long,
Speaker 2: really good defender. There's going to be multiple guys who
Speaker 2: are thrown at him, I'm sure, and Luca could hunt
Speaker 2: a Conley or an Edwards or a Gobert or a
Speaker 2: Cat because they're just going to try and get the switches.
Speaker 2: But Gobert is so good against those lobs, like when
Speaker 2: he will be guarding Gafford or Lively, He's just he's
Speaker 2: really good at it. So I think they just want
Speaker 2: to stretch him as much as possible. That is the benefit,
Speaker 2: the benefit they could could could have. Maximilian Kliba is
Speaker 2: not scheduled to come back until multiple games. I mean
Speaker 2: he's been working out, yes, but it's doesn't look all
Speaker 2: that good and he is key, I think, to helping
Speaker 2: this Dallas offense because this one, it just has so
Speaker 2: many freaking guys offensively. It is going to be interesting
Speaker 2: to see Luca Versus Anthony Edwards Paquett in this series.
Speaker 2: Should should go off. He's gonna be guarded by PJ
Speaker 2: Washington most likely. He should have a good series, and
Speaker 2: he looked good obviously in the last round.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Maxi Kleiba right shoulder injury and he's begun basic
Speaker 1: basketball activity. He's scheduled to be reevaluated later this week,
Speaker 1: so we may not even see him at all. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was on fire in that series in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two because yeah, go Behar couldn't get out to him
Speaker 1: and he was knocking the threes. But some of these
Speaker 1: other Maverick guys have obviously done a great job of
Speaker 1: hitting three pointers. The corners are gonna be there and
Speaker 1: those guys can't miss. Right now, PJ Washington, Jerk Jones Junior.
Speaker 1: A lot of them are just money right now in
Speaker 1: the corners. They got to continue that. Who's your X factor?
Speaker 3: TK Dallas Bags is huge, I think, and then Kat
Speaker 3: factors in as an X factor because the guy's like
Speaker 3: a super mismatch right now. I also wonder if Kyle
Speaker 3: Anderson will guard Luka Doncetz a little bit, he'll get
Speaker 3: torn up. I do believe if that happens, but they
Speaker 3: can at least try it for a little bit. As
Speaker 3: for another X factor, I think it's JD and d
Speaker 3: Jaden McDaniels and Derek Jones Junior. They're in the exact
Speaker 3: same spot, and this one they've got a huge defensive responsibility.
Speaker 3: They got to take care of. Jane's gonna be gardening
Speaker 3: Luca a lot, Derek Jones Junior is gonna be garden
Speaker 3: at a lot. And then on offense, that's where anybody
Speaker 3: is hiding. Jane McDaniels, you're getting open three pointers. Derek
Speaker 3: Jones Junior, you're getting open three pointers. Who makes more
Speaker 3: of them? That might be the entire series right there.
Speaker 1: Right Derek Jones Junior obviously turned it on in that
Speaker 1: last series as it went on. Jaden McDaniels shot seventy
Speaker 1: five percent over the last two games against Denver, average
Speaker 1: twenty two points in those Game six and Game seven victories.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a huge one. That's who I wrote
Speaker 1: down is exactly what I wrote down to TK was
Speaker 1: Jayden McDaniels and Derek Jones Junior. Which one can keep
Speaker 1: playing at that sort of incredible level offensively. You know
Speaker 1: they're gonna bring it defensively. You're always watching foul trouble
Speaker 1: like well Ant you know, sort of bait Derek Jones
Speaker 1: Junior into one or two, you know, crappy fouls. Same
Speaker 1: with the Luca on Jana McDaniels. But they're gonna be
Speaker 1: sound there. It's just can they contribute offensively because someone's
Speaker 1: got to be left open and it will be those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they've made a lot of these teams pay and
Speaker 1: the reason why they're into the conference finals.
Speaker 2: Right. We didn't even mention Nikhil. Alexander Walker is a
Speaker 2: guy who could potentially be thrown on Luca or thrown
Speaker 2: on Kyrie just to get under their skin a little bit.
Speaker 2: Not that they're going to play fourth quarter. He's going
Speaker 2: to play fourth quarters. But we saw him do a
Speaker 2: great job against Devin Booker in round one just to
Speaker 2: get under his skin when they played the Phoenix Suns,
Speaker 2: and around two wasn't needed as much because of the
Speaker 2: Timberwolves were just so good because Anthony Edwards is a
Speaker 2: good defensive player. But there's just a huge list of
Speaker 2: defensive players on the Minnesota Timberwolves. They're very, very good
Speaker 2: at that. So I want to see how Dallas their
Speaker 2: strength is their back coward. They're two guys, and so
Speaker 2: they are going to have a lot of guys thrown
Speaker 2: at them, many guys thrown at them.
Speaker 1: I think prediction time, TK, Let's start with you, because
Speaker 1: I'm going with whoever you pick. You've been on fire
Speaker 1: in the Western Conference Finals when it comes to predictions.
Speaker 1: This is obviously a great matchup, feels like it's going
Speaker 1: to go long. Wolves are maps how many games.
Speaker 3: It's because I keep picking the MAVs that I keep
Speaker 3: coming to you can win this series. If Luca and
Speaker 3: Kyrie are the best two players in the series. Luca
Speaker 3: has to be the number one best player. Kyrie probably
Speaker 3: slots in at number three. But if they're two of
Speaker 3: the top three, I think the MAVs can absolutely win
Speaker 3: this series. Their defense is pretty good, like we're kind
Speaker 3: of obviously. The Timberwolves are a legendary defense. People are
Speaker 3: talking about him as the best defense in the past
Speaker 3: twenty years. But the MAVs are pretty good as well.
Speaker 3: And I think there might be more players on the
Speaker 3: Timberwolves who could be taken out of this series, like
Speaker 3: Kyle Anderson wasn't a factor against the Nuggets. Eventually Nikhil
Speaker 3: Alexander Walker, they were leaving him open against the Nuggets
Speaker 3: or the Nuggets were as well. So I worry about
Speaker 3: having like all three of Alexander Walker, SloMo and Rudy
Speaker 3: Gobert on the court. That's three non shooters for a
Speaker 3: team in Minnesota that doesn't always score super well. Though
Speaker 3: they have been awesome, It's so such a weird story
Speaker 3: with the Timberwolves. Karl Anthony Towns goes out at the
Speaker 3: end of the season. You're like they're gonna be bad,
Speaker 3: and then they got great on offense and it has
Speaker 3: continued into the postseason as well. Very very oppressive. Man,
Speaker 3: I don't know picking against Anthony Edwards right now. I
Speaker 3: don't love it. MAVs in seven.
Speaker 1: Wow, MAVs in seven. He's gonna stick with the Dallas
Speaker 1: train working for him. Here, where are you going?
Speaker 2: I hear you, well, I wore this jersey for the
Speaker 2: reason that I'm taking on Minnesota Timberwolves. Yeah. I wasn't
Speaker 2: smart enough to take Dallas last series, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: And they were doing a good job of guarding Shay
Speaker 2: with multiple bodies, even though she was awesome, But they
Speaker 2: were showing him multiple bodies, which I assume they're going
Speaker 2: to do the same with Anthony Edwards. Here's our guys,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? Anthony Edwards? And it is
Speaker 2: miraculous that they lose Karl Anthony Towns for six weeks
Speaker 2: and they become better in the postseason. Their offense is
Speaker 2: actually better, and I think part of it is Anthony
Speaker 2: Edwards has gotten better at reading defenses, reading, Oh, there's
Speaker 2: two bodies close to me, even though they're not doubling me.
Speaker 2: To keep moving that thing. He's become a quicker decision maker.
Speaker 2: He's become a postseason decision maker. And I just believe
Speaker 2: in the Wolves offensively, and I think that the fact
Speaker 2: that they lost both games to start the series against
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets excuse me not to start the series,
Speaker 2: but those two key games at home in Games three
Speaker 2: in Games four will help them a little bit going
Speaker 2: forward because that was just abysmal for them. I'm taking them.
Speaker 2: I do think home court helps them out in this
Speaker 2: series because I don't see them losing two games in
Speaker 2: a row like that. Again, it's gonna be a fun one.
Speaker 2: The Dallas Mavericks. What is Jason Kidds stat that he's
Speaker 2: like one on eleven in his last twelve game ones
Speaker 2: or something ridiculous that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lucas even yeah, of course game one record.
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, Luca got better as that series went on.
Speaker 2: Game six and game seven, he was good. So I
Speaker 2: don't know how you take against bet against Dallas, but
Speaker 2: this kind of feels like Dallas of twenty eleven when
Speaker 2: everybody was picking against Dallas in that postseason. Kind of
Speaker 2: feels like the timber Wolves are in that position. So
Speaker 2: I think they get to the finals. I'm taking the Wolves.
Speaker 2: I'll give them. I'll give a lot of respect to Dallas.
Speaker 2: Seven games for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're going Wolves in seven. You got Mavericks in seven.
Speaker 1: I told you I'm going wherever Drey Kirby's going, so
Speaker 1: I'm going Mavericks and seven. It's a coin flip. I
Speaker 1: think this is going to be a seven game series.
Speaker 1: It's gonna go along. What's really fun is by the
Speaker 1: end of June, we are gonna have either Anthony Edwards
Speaker 1: winning a championship at twenty two years old. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have Luca doing it at what twenty five his first
Speaker 1: Tatum twenty six or Halliburton at twenty four. A young
Speaker 1: star in this league is going to get their first championship.
Speaker 1: Is going to be one of those teams. And look,
Speaker 1: some people say, if we get Wolves and Celtics, then
Speaker 1: that means Al Horford and Mike Conley winning too. Do
Speaker 1: you have a dream finals matchup that you just like
Speaker 1: as a fan, just want to see the most. Is
Speaker 1: it Wolve Celtics, Is it Mavericks Celtics? Do you want
Speaker 1: the Pacers in there to feel good story? Where are
Speaker 1: you going? Or do you care?
Speaker 2: When I dream? I don't usually dream about the finals,
Speaker 2: but today today it's kind of hard to dream for
Speaker 2: the Celtics when they had the opportunity to go to
Speaker 2: so many and they've been there already to one. I
Speaker 2: mean I don't know. No, I'm dreamless. I gotta be
Speaker 2: got to question the finals.
Speaker 3: This is a dream.
Speaker 2: You you asked for a dream.
Speaker 3: Okay, who do you want.
Speaker 1: To see the finals?
Speaker 3: I want to see balls Timberwolves.
Speaker 1: Okay, who do you? A realist?
Speaker 2: Very good? Who are you dreaming?
Speaker 1: I want to see.
Speaker 3: Edwards in the Okay, I'm looking for otherwise, I don't
Speaker 3: really care.
Speaker 1: It's just a preference.
Speaker 3: And if if the Timberwolves make it, I'll do Timberwolves
Speaker 3: of Minnesota again because the old lyrics have Dangelo Russell.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, yeah, I was a banger for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, well, let's hear from everybody. You want to say,
Speaker 1: I want to see Wolve Celtics. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: see Anthony Edwards in the finals, but.
Speaker 2: Luca deserves to get there.
Speaker 1: Sure, I just went through it. You won't be upset
Speaker 1: with any of those, Well, I mean there will people.
Speaker 1: People will be upset with the Celtics winning because people
Speaker 1: just like to shoot on the Celtics. But a young
Speaker 1: star winning their first ring, that's fantastic. So all four
Speaker 1: of those is awesome. But I just want to see
Speaker 1: Aunt because he's the most charismatic guy in the league.
Speaker 1: Guess did him in the finals? Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The tatums is he doesn't feel young because
Speaker 2: he's this is year seven and has gone through so
Speaker 2: many playoffs and have been through so many conference finals.
Speaker 2: He is the oldest of all of them, and they've
Speaker 2: got so many old guys, so it just it's a
Speaker 2: it's a perfect recipe for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It would also be hilarious for Karl Anthony Towns
Speaker 1: to win a championship ring before Jimmy Butler. That would
Speaker 1: just be very funny as well.
Speaker 3: Wigan's got one.
Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. He did there, he did, So
Speaker 1: let's hear from everybody out there. Predictions for both of
Speaker 1: those conference finals series. They start tonight in the East
Speaker 1: and then it's West on Wednesday night, and I guess
Speaker 1: it's just every other night until they're done.
Speaker 3: Every other night.
Speaker 1: There's no big gaps, which is good. We're getting one
Speaker 1: basketball game a night. You can really focus and we'll
Speaker 1: be breaking it down here on the show the next
Speaker 1: morning stream team.
Speaker 3: They think it's a coin flip as well. Fifty two
Speaker 3: percent are taking the Timberwolves in six or seven games.
Speaker 3: Thirty four percent are taking the Mavericks in six or
Speaker 3: seven games. Then you got nine percent Timberwolves in four
Speaker 3: or five, three percent MAVs in four or five. Sorry,
Speaker 3: there's only four choices available.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, right, Yeah, we can't give you
Speaker 1: seven options or what.
Speaker 3: Can't do it? All? Right?
Speaker 1: Let's get to some news from yesterday. Victor Wemenyama chet
Speaker 1: Holmgren have been unanimously selected to the twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: twenty four All Rookie First Team. Both players received first
Speaker 1: team votes on all ninety nine ballots from a global
Speaker 1: panel of sports writers and broadcasters. Why is chet in
Speaker 1: at okac Jersey No one knows? Joining Wemby, chet Aka, Wett,
Speaker 1: and Chembi on the All Rookie First Team are Hornets
Speaker 1: wing Brandon Miller, heat forward Jim Hawks Junior and Warriors
Speaker 1: guard Brandon Pojimski the NBA All Rookie Second Team, Maverick
Speaker 1: center Derek Lively the second, Rockets guard Slash forward on
Speaker 1: Men Thompson, Jazz guard Kiante George, OKC guard Case and Wallace.
Speaker 3: Also in a.
Speaker 1: Summary League Jerseys and Grizzlies forward Gigi Jackson the second.
Speaker 1: Jackson the only member of either All Rookie team not
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round. He went forty fifth overall.
Speaker 1: Any issues with these selection here on the all Rookie teams,
Speaker 1: any snubs? What do you think?
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's weird that there's only ninety nine votes.
Speaker 3: Once again, there was ninety nine votes for the Rookie
Speaker 3: of the Year award. One voter didn't turn in their awards.
Speaker 3: I'll also say it's weird that Brandon Miller wasn't a
Speaker 3: unanimous first teamer. He only got ninety eight votes total. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so somebody left him off the one and two teams.
Speaker 3: Does not make sense to me. It doesn't make sense
Speaker 3: at all. I think it's interesting to see Brandon Pajemski
Speaker 3: as the fifth slot in the on the first team
Speaker 3: ahead of Derek Lively. Derek Liveley has also obviously had
Speaker 3: an awesome postseason, Pods was probably better in the regular season.
Speaker 3: I feel like we all came down on choosing him
Speaker 3: as our fifth guy because it was between those two
Speaker 3: for the end of the first team. I think the
Speaker 3: biggest snub is probably Trace Jackson Davis, but I like
Speaker 3: Gg Jackson getting a little love as well. He had
Speaker 3: a really good season for the Grizzly, so I'm too
Speaker 3: upset about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Trace Jackson Davis nearly made that All Rookie second team.
Speaker 1: You're in one point less than GG Jackson. Maybe there
Speaker 1: was a mistake in terms of Jackson or Jackson Davis
Speaker 1: when people were doing the voting. Who knows, but Jackson,
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies forward, made four fewer ballots but received five
Speaker 1: first team votes. Well, tjd was on the second team
Speaker 1: on all forty two ballots. He appeared, and that's why
Speaker 1: GG Jackson just got in there.
Speaker 2: GG Jackson nineteen year old who was basically elevated almost
Speaker 2: midway through the season. He's only played in forty eight
Speaker 2: games this season, but he was elevated when they had
Speaker 2: all those injuries with John Morant and Smart Smart. Everybody
Speaker 2: was injured, so he comes in and fills in. I
Speaker 2: think if there's anyone that you can ridicule for making
Speaker 2: a bad vote and ridicule him for a specific award,
Speaker 2: it's probably this one because every other award they seem
Speaker 2: to get it right, but in this one you can
Speaker 2: poke some holes in their second team. I think the
Speaker 2: first team is absolutely correct, but there's guys that should
Speaker 2: get some some nods trace Jack and Davis. Sure, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry Thompson. I know he he had a bad ending
Speaker 2: to the year, but he was really good to start
Speaker 2: the year, and he played a ton of games and
Speaker 2: he did get injured, so he's not even not even
Speaker 2: sniffing the second team here, which is odd. I mean,
Speaker 2: he was good. I know the Piston's stunk, but anyway,
Speaker 2: it's nice to get all these rookies just mentioned again
Speaker 2: one more time, just mentioned them.
Speaker 1: Of the top fourteen picks so the lottery in the
Speaker 1: twenty three draft, only five got All Rookie honors, the
Speaker 1: Wemby Miller, Aman, Thompson, Wallace who did play all eighty
Speaker 1: two games, and then Lively. So you know, some notable
Speaker 1: names that didn't make it. Scoot Henderson, you know, not
Speaker 1: being on one of these squads as rough. He shot
Speaker 1: thirty eight percent from the field on a very bad team.
Speaker 1: He averaged fourteen to five and three. You know, he
Speaker 1: found it for weeks at times, but really overall shot poorly.
Speaker 1: And then a bunch of other names like Coolibali, people
Speaker 1: were upset maybe didn't sniff an all rookie second team.
Speaker 1: You know, a bunch of other guys didn't play as
Speaker 1: much like Walker and Hendricks and stuff like that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the SR Thompson, the TJD and probably you know, the
Speaker 1: Scoot and maybe Bulow cool of BALI I can't get
Speaker 1: too upset about All Rookie second Team, So I gotta
Speaker 1: be honest. I just I'm like, okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 3: I would for me, It's more like I would be
Speaker 3: disappointed if I'm a Portland fan. Y See, the guy
Speaker 3: that you tanked basically two seasons for you got a
Speaker 3: number three pick in Scoot and he didn't even make
Speaker 3: the second team. The guy's just got to become the
Speaker 3: biggest Deer and Fox fan in the world. He didn't
Speaker 3: even make an All Rookie team. Yeah either, look at
Speaker 3: him now he's an All star.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, before we go, Tweet of the Night.
Speaker 2: Tweet O the Night wowwet.
Speaker 3: Oh tweeted the night he gets brought to you by
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards. Basically he's doing a whole bunch of Minnesota tourism. Yeah, increasingness.
Speaker 3: So our first tweet from Tweet of the Night comes
Speaker 3: to us from Steve Russian, who mentions, bring you ass
Speaker 3: dot Com takes you to the Minnesota tourism website the
Speaker 3: Star of the North. Explore Minnesota dot com apparently comedian
Speaker 3: and Wolves fan John Savat perched it, purchased bring You
Speaker 3: Ass dot Com and then redirected it to Explore Minnesota's website.
Speaker 3: And I saw even Explore Minnesota has been telling people
Speaker 3: to bring their ass all right to Minnesota. It's gotten
Speaker 3: all over the place.
Speaker 2: D D. F.
Speaker 3: Baker did up there Welcome to Minnesota sign with a
Speaker 3: little bring you Ass down at the bottom. And then
Speaker 3: our friends over Breaking Tea they dropped a new Minnesota theme,
Speaker 3: bring you Ass Tea that you can get by going
Speaker 3: over to Breaking Tea dot com. You guys, ever been
Speaker 3: to Minnesota? Ever been to Minneapolis?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I have not.
Speaker 3: I would, I would. I would like to go to you.
Speaker 3: I assume I did. I wanted to for a wedding
Speaker 3: once upon a time. Within five minutes of landing, walking
Speaker 3: through the airport, I saw Michael Beasley. Oh yeah, he
Speaker 3: was a wolf at one point in time. I think
Speaker 3: we went to the Minnesota State Fair. They've got like
Speaker 3: a legendary state fair. Really it was awesome, but just like.
Speaker 1: In sure size of it or yeah, and.
Speaker 3: The treats they will offer you. I remember we had.
Speaker 3: The best thing we had was bucket of cookies pretty
Speaker 3: self explained, just a straight up like I don't know,
Speaker 3: ten inches by diameter wise ten inches, it was a circle.
Speaker 3: You're just walking around with a whole pail of cookies
Speaker 3: for the whole day. It's great and last year until
Speaker 3: you get to the deep fried tent where you can
Speaker 3: get a deep fried anything. We had deep fried oreos.
Speaker 3: I know what you're thinking, chocolate chip cookies into oreos. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I did it. I'm crazy. That's what it's like at Minnesota.
Speaker 3: I don't know what other stuff they got going on.
Speaker 3: I think we set foot in the Mall of America
Speaker 3: for a second. They've got like an amusement park there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just about to ask you there. It
Speaker 1: looks like it's in Bloomington.
Speaker 3: I don't know how close Bloomington, but.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's pretty goody Okay, you like to go?
Speaker 1: Fly you there? With all this branding you got going.
Speaker 2: On right here, I'd love to go to Little Canada
Speaker 2: for sure. Yes, I've heard some great Minnesota accents. Not
Speaker 2: from Minnesota, but people who journey out down here to
Speaker 2: the South it feels like I'm talking to a Canadian
Speaker 2: at times, So yeah, I'd love to go. It seems beautiful.
Speaker 1: My favorite part about the whole bring You Ass comment
Speaker 1: from Anthony Edwards to Charles Barkley, who said he'd basically
Speaker 1: never been to Minneapolis, was people then pointing out, hold on, Chuck,
Speaker 1: weren't you just there for the Final four like five
Speaker 1: years ago in twenty nineteen. I believe the Final Four
Speaker 1: was in Minneapolis, and I think he was covering it
Speaker 1: with you know, TBS and all that Auburn his team
Speaker 1: was like in the Final four. So oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess he just forgot he was there.
Speaker 2: I see a photo of him here, Yes, April six,
Speaker 2: Banks Stadium, Minneapolis, Minnesota. Pretty sure that's Chuck and Minnison. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: he just last than twenty years.
Speaker 1: He just forgets he was there. Thanks jesss Myers, and
Speaker 1: you brought up that fantastic break Bring Your Ass shirt
Speaker 1: that's available at Breaking Tea. We also because the people
Speaker 1: wanted it. They wanted some No Dunks, Wolves and Mavericks
Speaker 1: gear because we've got a lot of our No Dunks
Speaker 1: logos sort of remixes for a bunch of the other teams.
Speaker 1: We have the Pacers, we already have the Celtics. We
Speaker 1: now have a Wolve shirt and a Maverick shirt. No Dunks.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be going up basically right this second. I'm
Speaker 1: getting emails from Jamie Matrum saying feel free to tease
Speaker 1: on air. It's coming right up, he says. So by
Speaker 1: the time you're listening to this, maybe even watching it
Speaker 1: later on YouTube, go to Breaking Tea dot com and
Speaker 1: search for those. You can go to No Dunks dot com.
Speaker 1: They'll take you right to our page there on Breakingtea
Speaker 1: dot Com. So Breaking Team, man, they move fast. The
Speaker 1: people wanted it and we got it. They're nice looking
Speaker 1: shirts too. Yeah, I know, all right. We'll call it there.
Speaker 1: Conference Finals previews again, let's hear from everybody out there.
Speaker 1: I want to see your picks in the comments below,
Speaker 1: your reasoning, what you're watching for, your X factors, obviously,
Speaker 1: who's winning it and how many games? And also, please
Speaker 1: somebody tell me your dream Finals matchup. Let me know
Speaker 1: in the comments. We'll be back tomorrow breaking down Game
Speaker 1: one of the Eastern Conference Finals and all the NBA news.
Speaker 1: I think we have all defensive teams being named later
Speaker 1: this afternoon, we'll talk a little defense Deff. That's tomorrow
Speaker 1: until Dan Clipper Brose.
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Speaker 2: And remember I know people out there don't like the
Speaker 2: banging of tables during our podcast, but it has been reduced.
Speaker 2: It has been reduced greatly this season. I would say,
Speaker 2: somebody do the stats. How many bangs there have been
Speaker 2: months to months to month. It's reduced.
Speaker 1: It definitely got better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's reduced.
Speaker 1: Brace the day, people,