WEBVTT - The Dave Pasch Podcast - Budda Baker 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.760 Hey everybody, and welcome to episode two of the Dave 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:11.160 Pash Podcast with your host Dave Pash, ESPM broadcaster and 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:14.080 Arizona Cardinals play by play announcer. I want to thank 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:16.800 you guys so much for checking out episode number one 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.000 with Hall of Famer Kurt Warner. Had great response from 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.440 you the listeners, all the downloads, the promotion we got 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:27.320 from the Arizona Cardinals on their Twitter page at asy 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:31.920 Cardinals as well as the website asy cardinals dot com. 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.640 Big thank you to all my friends in the broadcasting 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:36.559 business in the sports world for all the likes and 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.519 the retweets. 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So we kicked 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.520 off the Dave Pash Podcast with Kurt Warner, a former player. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.680 Today we're going to visit with a current player, All 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:27.640 Pro safety Buddha Baker. And if you've ever been told hey, 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.720 you're too small, you don't look the part, then you'll 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:35.320 be able to appreciate Buddha's story undersized, passed over at 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:39.920 one point, now an ascending star in the National Football League. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.319 His given name is Boichard. He was nicknamed Buddha by 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.560 his mom and aunt when he was a child, and 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:49.520 the name stuck. He grew up in the state of Washington, 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:53.440 outside of Seattle, and in this podcast he talks about 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:57.320 being recruited to the University of Washington and what then 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.320 head coach Chris Peterson did that impressed him enough to 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:03.640 stay home despite offers to play elsewhere in the PAC twelve, 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:09.680 including with his best friend. Buddha also discusses his NFL career, 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.639 why he's tired of the Cardinals being quote unquote average. 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:18.440 He discusses holding teammates accountable and in what area Kyler 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.120 Murray has improved his game the most. Baker talks about 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.799 preparing to become a father and why there's a game 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.880 in December that has a big red circle around it 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.320 on the calendar. How American sign language has opened new 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.960 doors for relationships, and what question one team asked him 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:40.400 before draft day then made him really, really uncomfortable. So 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.560 here we go Episode two of the Day Pash Podcast 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:53.079 with All Pro safety Buddha Baker. Buddha Baker, fifth year 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.280 in the NFL, second round pick by the Cardinals, already 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.919 two time first Team All Pro and three time Pro Bowler. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.800 You're such a great player, but you have such a 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.840 great story, Buddhist. So I want to go back to 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.640 your childhood. When did you first fall in love with football? Oh? Man, 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.040 I think by the age about twelve. You know, I 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.720 was a big soccer guy growing up, played soccer, just 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:20.640 watched football on TV, played soccer, you know, basketball, track, 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.120 but I really like soccer. So growing up I was 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.120 a soccer player. Then finally, you know, my family put 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:31.120 me in youth football over in Bellevue, Newport Nights and 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.520 that's all she wrote from there. So why the transition 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.320 from soccer to football? Was it because physicality you could 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.240 hit somebody? Oh yeah, a little bit of that. You know. 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.920 Soccer was always my love, but football exactly what you said. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.680 The physicality. You can hit people, you know, of course, 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:49.839 you got to hit him the correct way. And I 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.640 knew that growing up at a young age. So just 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.760 being able to, you know, hit somebody and it be 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:59.760 totally legal, it is great with me. So soccer, football 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.800 and other sports. You played basketball at all growing up? 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.440 When I was young, I played basketball, but I ran track, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.040 you know, ran track when I was young, did the 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.800 list select national you know, track teams, and then high 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.839 school ran a little bit of track. Didn't really practice much, 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.360 but we ran track and it was fun. So were 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.080 you a Sonics fan? Like my first year doing NBA 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:25.200 for ESPN, my first game was a Sonics Lakers game 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.720 in two thousand and six, and that was I think 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.640 I think they left two years after that because Katie 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.280 got there. And think when Russ got drafted, he got 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.560 drafted by Seattle, but they were moving, so it was 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.000 around the time at the end of their tenure there 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:41.680 in Seattle. And I'm guessing at that point you were 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.320 probably eleven ten years old. So were you a big 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.800 Sonics fan at that point? Wow? Not really, you know, 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.320 like he said, I was nine ten years old, but 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.960 I was a big player fan. I like guys like, 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.680 of course, the Ray Allen shooting. You know, he's a 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:59.600 Steph Curry of the modern day. Ai Alan and I 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.520 were just led the way he played one hundred percent 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.920 each and every play offense and defense. And uh yeah, 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.240 I like guys like that. You were saying off the 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.840 year before we started this year, A big Lebron fan. Yeah, 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.640 of course you met Lebron. Yeah, I met Lebron, met 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:17.720 a d They were good guys, crazy tall, but it 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.080 was cool. We just seeing their relationship as you know, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.719 friends and brothers. They were laughing, joking around there. They 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.560 were just like kids, you know. First time I think 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:30.640 I realized how big Lebron was. You remember Ben Wallace, Yeah, 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.159 he was on Cleveland. This is when Lebron was early 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.360 on in his career. And when I saw Lebron standing 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.279 next to Ben Wallace, who was so big and like 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.360 you always thought about Ben Walls as a muscle bound 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.240 rebounder and Lebron was bigger than him. Yeah, I'm like, 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.960 oh my goodness. So when you see Lebron, I mean 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:52.719 he's six nine, two fifty five two sixty exactly. I 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:57.760 mean it's like and running, running fast, exactly what you said. 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:01.360 It's two fifty five guys six five. Man. I just 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:04.400 have so much respect for him, just what he does 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.200 on each team, every team he's on. Why Allen iverson? 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.880 You said? Ai? Yes? Ai, just man. I love the 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:13.000 way that crossover was crazy. I love, you know, him 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.440 crossing people over and making them go the other way. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.240 And how his quickness. You know, I'm I would like 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.920 to think I'm kind of a quick guy. So just 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.279 seeing that quickness in and out of that you know, 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.080 step when he crosses somebody over, and just the way 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.880 you played the swagg he had, and you know he 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.400 kind of he kind of put on for the guys 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.560 with the longest shorts nowadays because back then the shorts 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.919 were a little higher, but you know, he kind of 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.120 sagged him a little bit. Had the wrist bands, the 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:42.839 finger bands, the headbands. I like that. What was your 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.800 recruitment like, because not only were a really good high 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.240 school player, but you won fourteen to no I think 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.960 three straight years, right, three straight state titles. What was 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.280 your recruitment like? Were you heavily recruited? Did you always 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.159 know where you were going to go? To? Washington? Yeah? 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.279 I mean I was heavily recruited whole pack twelve. Besides, 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.039 of course Stanford the great stand for the hod to 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.240 have a three point six or something. I had like 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.440 three point two, so it wasn't good enough for them. 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.799 But you know, I was heavily recruited PAC twelve sec 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.160 and for me it was kind of I knew, kind 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.400 of I was gonna stay home. My best friend at 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.800 the time was Miles jack He plays now for the 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.440 Jacksonville Jaguars, and he was committed to UCLA and he 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.640 played there. He was a great above me, so I 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.640 almost went to UCLA just because that relationship with him, 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:28.360 but I knew right when I would get there he 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.520 was one year and done. So for me, I just 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.880 wanted to put it on myself. And who did I 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:38.440 think was the best opportunity for me school and football wise, 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:42.760 and University of Washington bringing in Chris Peterson from Boise 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.400 State at the time and his staff. I just really 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.760 loved those guys. And Jimmy Lake, who's now the head 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.760 coach at U dub He was my DV coaching man. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.960 He was a great guy new football, and I would 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:55.720 like to say he helped me a lot when I 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.640 got into the league because we were already kind of 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:02.320 running you know, NFL defenses in college, so going to 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.040 the league, I kind of didn't really miss a step. 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.160 I was going to ask you about Jimmy, what is 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:12.000 the biggest challenge you think that he faces, because it's 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.440 not just about Washington right now in the Pac twelve, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:18.440 it's about relevance. It's about getting into college football playoff, 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:22.440 which has been an issue for the Pac twelve. Yeah, exactly, 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.560 I mean Pac twelve, they just he just got to 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.640 go in and feed it each and every year. You know, 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.840 we went to the College Football Playoff thankfully, and I 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.080 think we lost a game to USC that year, but 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.640 we were Pac twelve champions, and you know, all that 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.040 stuff matters. But you know, for him, I feel like 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.319 they always have the team each and every year. They 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.719 just got to put it together. And especially with these 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.920 last you know, a couple of years with COVID, you know, 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:50.200 it's definitely hard. So you know, we'll see how he does. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:51.720 You know, I haven't talked to him in a while, 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.839 but I planned to talk to him, you know soon. 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.960 Do you have a story from when you were being recruited? 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.040 Was there any one particular coach that you thought was 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.040 a certain way and that surprised you, or any crazy 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:09.600 story that you have, I mean crazy story, maybe not, 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.800 but you know, with Chris Peterson, I just remember he 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:17.040 kept a photo of me in his wallet because he 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.960 knew that me being a hometown guy. He his biggest 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:23.000 thing that was on his mind was to try and 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.160 get me to stay home because he knew that would 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.240 kind of be a triple effect. So that was a 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.600 crazy story. And then just them come to my house. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.640 They were great people. Just how genuine there were. You know, 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.079 for me, it was definitely easy to see the genuine 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.520 people versus the people that would you know, kind of 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.680 car salesman type of coaches and guys like that. So 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.240 with you, Dug, everyone was so genuine. They told me 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.679 the truth, of course, you know, told me right on, 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.200 like you're not just gonna start right away, You're gonna 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.320 work your way up to the top. And you know 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.200 that's what I did my freshman year. Were you upset 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.800 then when you didn't get picked in the first round. 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.240 What was your reaction when the hardinals traded up though 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.640 to get you early in the second round. Yeah, I 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.960 definitely thought I was a first round pick. I definitely 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.439 thought I was the best safety coming out. But for me, 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.760 you know, the negative thing about me was my size 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.320 and my height, and I knew I can't really do 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:16.880 anything about that going into mine, you know, at the 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.439 time my true junior year after that season playing Alabama 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.000 had a great game, you know, lost to them, but 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.559 the biggest things was your height and your size, and 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.960 can't really change that. So for me, I knew I 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.640 wanted to go out and I knew all it takes 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.800 is one team. So for me is as soon as 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:35.559 I get my foot in the door, I felt like 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.000 I was gonna take that opportunity in For the Cardinals 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.360 to trade up for me, that was definitely special because 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.000 that showed me that they really, you know, wanted to 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.400 get me when a team trades up for you, So 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.480 I was definitely excited and happy. I didn't think I 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.040 was gonna go to the Cardinals just because of you know, 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.800 the players they kind of had, so for me to 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:58.640 get drafted by them, it was definitely excited and definitely 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:02.000 my rookie year learned from those guys. Did you meet 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.640 with the Cardinals at all or was it a complete 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.600 shock because you didn't really know anybody in the organization. 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.880 You know, I met with like twenty eight teams at 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.000 the combine, which was definitely hard because you have those 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.319 fifteen minute interviews each and every day. I feel like 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.520 I had like twelve interviews and one night, and I 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:23.240 was like very tolling of course, with having to run 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.600 to forties and the benches and all that type of stuff. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.200 But that's all for you know, your mental They do 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.160 that for a reason. They want to see who can 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:34.320 you know, still comprehend those things and still you know, 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.280 show out on the field once it's time to go 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.200 on the field. And you know, I met with Cardinals 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:40.880 and they were great. I met you know, at the 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.080 time it was BA and Steve and you know those guys, 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.280 and they were all cool and it was it was great. 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:51.000 Any strange question from any of those interviews, anything you 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.000 remember that You're like, man, I can't believe that dude 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.400 just asked me that. Yeah, I mean I think it 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:59.520 was the Bengals. The Bengals, Cincinnati Bengals. I go in 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.360 and first of all, when you go in, usually guys 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.600 like you know, they greet you and stuff. But when 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.560 I went in there that everyone was just quiet and 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.520 staring at me, and I was just like, hey, how 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.480 are you guys doing? Just some guys looking at me? 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.480 And then first question was what is forty percent of 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:20.160 two hundred? I was like, you know, I kind of 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.200 took at it like I was kind of you know, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:23.720 I didn't really know I was going to get a 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.960 question like that. I'm like nervous that. I'm like, okay, 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.920 forty's running through my mind. I better get it right. Yeah. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.400 I'm worried about my plays, like making sure you know 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.079 what's under over, like making sure I know my defenses 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.520 and stuff. And the first question is what's forty percent 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.320 and two hundred? So that's not the weirdest thing the 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.160 Bengals have done. But that's so I'll have a whole 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.400 podcast on that, maybe with AJ Green at some point 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.480 or Carson when we get them on. So, you're the 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.920 second highest paid safety in the NFL now with Justin 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.280 Simmons getting his deal. Yeah. Um, recently you have the 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:57.480 Madden ranking, the ESPN ranking, the Pro Football Focus ranking, 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.680 which I assume you want to hit on that. How 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.680 did they come up with number sixteen? That's what I 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.200 want to know, you know, for me, it's just like, 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.559 I just feel like someone over there doesn't like me. 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.240 Um they said, I I'm my coverage grade is like 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.880 a sixty percent or and I gave up five touchdowns 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.600 last year. And it's just like, man, where are you 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.280 getting this stuff? But those are guys opinions, Guys who 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.280 you know, I don't know if they played the game 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:26.880 of football or not. I don't know if they know 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.839 our defenses, they know our playbooks, and they know you know, 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:34.040 who's getting scored on who and what stuff. But you know, 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.240 I kind of just let that go in one ear 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.679 and out the other. I definitely was kind of disrespected 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:41.480 when I saw that, But at the end of the day, 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.360 it's their opinions. It's a free world. They can have 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.120 their opinions. I'll just I'll just keep showing out each 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:51.079 and every week exactly. You change your number of this 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.439 year to number three, which makes my job harder. I've 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.600 had to relearn the roster. I'm like looking at like, 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.000 who's number three, Oh, that's foot up and you know, 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.199 doing college college football every week, so I'm used to 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.000 seeing like a defensive lineman wearing number six, but now 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:06.800 it's in the NFL. So it's I know, obviously that's 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.080 far from anything you're concerned with, but why the number three? 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:11.840 You were thirty two in high school and then thirty 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.120 sixty with the Cardinals. Why did you change the number three? 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:15.920 I mean, of course I war thirty six with the 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.520 Cardinals and then was able to wear thirty two again. 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.440 But for me, it was just kind of having my 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.920 own number. You know, first time they ever let dbs 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.520 and people wear single digit numbers. So for me, I 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.560 already knew I was gonna try and use that to 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.320 take that number and play on defense. So just a 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.120 number no other defensive back and Cardinals here has had, 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.000 and you know, hopefully I can do great things with 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.160 that number and see those see that number in the 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.720 wrap theres someday. What for fans that are listening to 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.040 this going into the season, what do you think will 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.120 be different about the defense of this year? You know, 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.160 in the beginning of camp, I just try to talk 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.680 to guys and just say, like, we're very average these 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.720 last four years, and I don't want to be average anymore. 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.160 I'm done with being average. So when I see things 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.080 that are average on the field, I'm going to be 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:08.120 talking to you about it. Everybody just being held accountable 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.280 of things and just let guys know we're brothers at 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.160 the end of the day. But if you mess up something, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.920 I'm gonna get on you about it, just like if 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.080 I mess up something, you should get on me about it. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.480 Because at the end of the day, everybody wants to 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.040 be at the top and all the guys being held 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:25.440 accountable of things on the defense and getting into their 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:29.040 playbooks and understanding you know, defense is because we were 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.640 a game short last year and we were a way 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.120 better defense than what we showed last year. So this year, 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.400 everyone being held accountable, taking it day by day, not 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.720 looking at what's in four weeks or five weeks, but 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.840 one week at a time, one day at a time, 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.560 and things are going to be special. So we'll see. 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.560 We've heard a lot about the focus of Steve come 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.600 was to bring in more leadership, be more physical. Have 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.400 you noticed the difference in the locker room in terms 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:02.800 of leadership with some of the auditions and without naming names, 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.560 some of the substractions that aren't here anymore. I mean 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.960 there's definitely leadership, you know on the defense, leadership on 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.480 the team, and you know, Steve Kim and this staff 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.800 has done a great job of bringing good guys in 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.600 and guys that want to learn, and guys that you know, 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.280 want to have those leadership qualities and have those leadership 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.680 qualities and has done great things in the NFL. So 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.480 you know, for us, we're just so excited and like 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:32.000 I said, we're just all being taken accountable, being held accountable, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.840 and want to get better each and every day. So 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.560 that's all that matters. I know it's early in camp, 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.800 but just I'm curious, based on conversations you've had with 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:45.280 some of the young guys or what you've seen in 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.360 practice or even going back to mini campus, they're a 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.120 player that maybe we're not thinking about that we need 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:55.720 to have a rise on here. Oh. I mean, I 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.000 think there's a bunch of players, you know, especially with 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.120 I mean these young draft picks, these young guys. All 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.520 these guys are really good guys. They want to be coach, 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.160 they want to learn, and you know, I give tremendous respect, 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.080 you know for these young guys because a lot of 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.560 young guys when they get drafted, they kind of think 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.600 they're you know, the shi t and they just don't 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.359 want to do you know, they don't want to do things, 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:19.920 They don't want to do the hard things. But with 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.120 all these young guys, they want to work, they want 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.840 to get better, and I'm excited for of course, they're 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.719 Zavin Isaiah who's in his second year, and I'm just 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.200 excited for this defense Chandler coming back. It's it's gonna 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.639 be special. Do you like camp? Do you like to 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.760 come to training camp? And their players who don't like it, 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.199 they would rather just get to the preseason games or 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.280 even just get to the regular season. I work with 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.920 Ron Wolfley. I mean he loved camp. He loved the hitting, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.600 he loved he was doing three days that. Yeah, do 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.240 you enjoy it? I'm not saying I love camp, but 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.680 I'll say I embrace it, you know, I embrace the grind. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.320 You kind of embrace the suck in a sense. And 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.480 this camp, of course, there's guys. You're able to go home, 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.600 you know. So I'm able to go home each and 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:06.280 every night, get my good meals, my good stretches, and 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.399 come back the next morning and work, you know, my 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:14.360 ass off. So and I'm excited. I'm very excited. Embrace 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.000 the suck. I think I'm gonna use that when I 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:17.840 get like an assignment that I don't like, Hey, you're 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:19.840 doing this game this week. I'm gonna be like, I 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.840 just gotta embrace the sun, Gotta just embrace it. JJ Watt, 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.320 what was your first impression when he walked in? Man, 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:30.960 big guy, you know, tall, long, strong, saw him in 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.600 the weight room, a little strong, loves you know, kind 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.399 of a meathead in a type of sense when I 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.840 see j. J. Watt, but a guy who's a great guy, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.399 loves to work, and I'm excited to have him on 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.840 our team. What about AJ Green, because it's somebody that 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:49.160 when I sat down with Cliff, he brought up AJ unsolicited, 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:54.200 and just watching Aj in camp, it's noticeable that this 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:58.200 guy still has it. What have you seen? Of course, 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.639 like you said, I mean, he's in He's in the 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:05.439 Great A Z Sunny Hot every day. It's beautiful. He 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.920 still has that jew still has that burst speed that 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.000 where he can go deep, but also that speed where 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:13.840 he can go deep and then sit it down real 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.560 quick in a one two punts. So having him in 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:20.360 d hop is special just for k one having those weapons, 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:23.120 and then especially you know Kurt in the slot, he's 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:26.119 fast and the new additions that we have as well. 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.600 Fast guys can get in and out of their breaks, 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.399 and I'm excited for this offense for sure. But Aj, 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.560 like he said, he still has that juice. He can 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.600 break on a dime, catch the ball, and I'm excited 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.000 to see what he can do with the Cardinals. Anything 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:43.439 that stands out to you about Kyler Murray that's different? Oh? 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.879 For me, I feel like his arm strength is definitely better. 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.480 He's always had great arm strength, but you know there's 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:53.960 one time in practice he's rolling all the way to 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.399 the right sideline and he flicks the ball to d 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.680 hop and it's like a fifty five yard throw in 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.320 the middle the field across his body, so and it's 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:06.880 a dart. So his arm strength. His accuracy has always 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.399 been good, which gets better each and every year, but 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.720 that armstram is special. You've made so many big time 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:16.639 plays in a short time in the NFL, But it 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.240 seems like from a national perspective, the play that everybody 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.080 talks about is the DK Metcalf play. Yeah, and I'm 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.160 sure you get asked about that a ton ye. I mean, 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.000 is there an interview you do or a person you 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.000 talk to that doesn't bring it up that just talks 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:35.160