1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to episode two of the Dave 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Pash Podcast with your host Dave Pash, ESPM broadcaster and 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals play by play announcer. I want to thank 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: you guys so much for checking out episode number one 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: with Hall of Famer Kurt Warner. Had great response from 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: you the listeners, all the downloads, the promotion we got 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: from the Arizona Cardinals on their Twitter page at asy 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals as well as the website asy cardinals dot com. 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: Big thank you to all my friends in the broadcasting 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: business in the sports world for all the likes and 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: the retweets. You can check out everything there is to 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: know about the Dave Pash Podcast, information on previous episodes, 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: on upcoming episodes on our Twitter page at Pash Pod. 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: We also have some new presenting sponsors, bet MGM and 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: Hilo River Hotels and Casinos. Bet MGM is the official 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of the eros on A Cardinals and 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: once legalized sports betting launches here in Arizona. Bet MGM 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: plants to open retail sports books at the three Arizona 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: Hila River properties as well as State Farm Stadium, which 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: of course is home to the Cardinals. So we kicked 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: off the Dave Pash Podcast with Kurt Warner, a former player. 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: Today we're going to visit with a current player, All 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: Pro safety Buddha Baker. And if you've ever been told hey, 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: you're too small, you don't look the part, then you'll 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: be able to appreciate Buddha's story undersized, passed over at 26 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: one point, now an ascending star in the National Football League. 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: His given name is Boichard. He was nicknamed Buddha by 28 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: his mom and aunt when he was a child, and 29 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: the name stuck. He grew up in the state of Washington, 30 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: outside of Seattle, and in this podcast he talks about 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: being recruited to the University of Washington and what then 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: head coach Chris Peterson did that impressed him enough to 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: stay home despite offers to play elsewhere in the PAC twelve, 34 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: including with his best friend. Buddha also discusses his NFL career, 35 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: why he's tired of the Cardinals being quote unquote average. 36 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: He discusses holding teammates accountable and in what area Kyler 37 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Murray has improved his game the most. Baker talks about 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: preparing to become a father and why there's a game 39 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: in December that has a big red circle around it 40 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: on the calendar. How American sign language has opened new 41 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: doors for relationships, and what question one team asked him 42 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: before draft day then made him really, really uncomfortable. So 43 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: here we go Episode two of the Day Pash Podcast 44 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: with All Pro safety Buddha Baker. Buddha Baker, fifth year 45 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL, second round pick by the Cardinals, already 46 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: two time first Team All Pro and three time Pro Bowler. 47 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: You're such a great player, but you have such a 48 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: great story, Buddhist. So I want to go back to 49 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: your childhood. When did you first fall in love with football? Oh? Man, 50 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: I think by the age about twelve. You know, I 51 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: was a big soccer guy growing up, played soccer, just 52 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: watched football on TV, played soccer, you know, basketball, track, 53 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: but I really like soccer. So growing up I was 54 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: a soccer player. Then finally, you know, my family put 55 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: me in youth football over in Bellevue, Newport Nights and 56 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: that's all she wrote from there. So why the transition 57 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: from soccer to football? Was it because physicality you could 58 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: hit somebody? Oh yeah, a little bit of that. You know. 59 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: Soccer was always my love, but football exactly what you said. 60 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: The physicality. You can hit people, you know, of course, 61 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 1: you got to hit him the correct way. And I 62 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: knew that growing up at a young age. So just 63 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: being able to, you know, hit somebody and it be 64 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: totally legal, it is great with me. So soccer, football 65 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: and other sports. You played basketball at all growing up? 66 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: When I was young, I played basketball, but I ran track, 67 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, ran track when I was young, did the 68 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: list select national you know, track teams, and then high 69 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 1: school ran a little bit of track. Didn't really practice much, 70 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: but we ran track and it was fun. So were 71 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: you a Sonics fan? Like my first year doing NBA 72 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: for ESPN, my first game was a Sonics Lakers game 73 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, and that was I think 74 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: I think they left two years after that because Katie 75 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: got there. And think when Russ got drafted, he got 76 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: drafted by Seattle, but they were moving, so it was 77 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: around the time at the end of their tenure there 78 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: in Seattle. And I'm guessing at that point you were 79 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: probably eleven ten years old. So were you a big 80 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: Sonics fan at that point? Wow? Not really, you know, 81 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: like he said, I was nine ten years old, but 82 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: I was a big player fan. I like guys like, 83 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: of course, the Ray Allen shooting. You know, he's a 84 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: Steph Curry of the modern day. Ai Alan and I 85 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: were just led the way he played one hundred percent 86 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: each and every play offense and defense. And uh yeah, 87 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: I like guys like that. You were saying off the 88 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: year before we started this year, A big Lebron fan. Yeah, 89 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: of course you met Lebron. Yeah, I met Lebron, met 90 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: a d They were good guys, crazy tall, but it 91 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: was cool. We just seeing their relationship as you know, 92 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: friends and brothers. They were laughing, joking around there. They 93 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: were just like kids, you know. First time I think 94 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: I realized how big Lebron was. You remember Ben Wallace, Yeah, 95 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: he was on Cleveland. This is when Lebron was early 96 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: on in his career. And when I saw Lebron standing 97 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: next to Ben Wallace, who was so big and like 98 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: you always thought about Ben Walls as a muscle bound 99 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: rebounder and Lebron was bigger than him. Yeah, I'm like, 100 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: oh my goodness. So when you see Lebron, I mean 101 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: he's six nine, two fifty five two sixty exactly. I 102 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: mean it's like and running, running fast, exactly what you said. 103 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: It's two fifty five guys six five. Man. I just 104 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: have so much respect for him, just what he does 105 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: on each team, every team he's on. Why Allen iverson? 106 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: You said? Ai? Yes? Ai, just man. I love the 107 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: way that crossover was crazy. I love, you know, him 108 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: crossing people over and making them go the other way. 109 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: And how his quickness. You know, I'm I would like 110 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: to think I'm kind of a quick guy. So just 111 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: seeing that quickness in and out of that you know, 112 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: step when he crosses somebody over, and just the way 113 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: you played the swagg he had, and you know he 114 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: kind of he kind of put on for the guys 115 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: with the longest shorts nowadays because back then the shorts 116 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 1: were a little higher, but you know, he kind of 117 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: sagged him a little bit. Had the wrist bands, the 118 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: finger bands, the headbands. I like that. What was your 119 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: recruitment like, because not only were a really good high 120 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: school player, but you won fourteen to no I think 121 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: three straight years, right, three straight state titles. What was 122 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: your recruitment like? Were you heavily recruited? Did you always 123 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: know where you were going to go? To? Washington? Yeah? 124 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: I mean I was heavily recruited whole pack twelve. Besides, 125 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: of course Stanford the great stand for the hod to 126 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: have a three point six or something. I had like 127 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: three point two, so it wasn't good enough for them. 128 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: But you know, I was heavily recruited PAC twelve sec 129 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: and for me it was kind of I knew, kind 130 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: of I was gonna stay home. My best friend at 131 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: the time was Miles jack He plays now for the 132 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, and he was committed to UCLA and he 133 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: played there. He was a great above me, so I 134 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: almost went to UCLA just because that relationship with him, 135 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: but I knew right when I would get there he 136 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: was one year and done. So for me, I just 137 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: wanted to put it on myself. And who did I 138 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: think was the best opportunity for me school and football wise, 139 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: and University of Washington bringing in Chris Peterson from Boise 140 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: State at the time and his staff. I just really 141 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: loved those guys. And Jimmy Lake, who's now the head 142 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: coach at U dub He was my DV coaching man. 143 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: He was a great guy new football, and I would 144 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: like to say he helped me a lot when I 145 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: got into the league because we were already kind of 146 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: running you know, NFL defenses in college, so going to 147 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: the league, I kind of didn't really miss a step. 148 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about Jimmy, what is 149 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: the biggest challenge you think that he faces, because it's 150 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: not just about Washington right now in the Pac twelve, 151 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: it's about relevance. It's about getting into college football playoff, 152 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: which has been an issue for the Pac twelve. Yeah, exactly, 153 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: I mean Pac twelve, they just he just got to 154 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: go in and feed it each and every year. You know, 155 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: we went to the College Football Playoff thankfully, and I 156 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: think we lost a game to USC that year, but 157 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: we were Pac twelve champions, and you know, all that 158 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: stuff matters. But you know, for him, I feel like 159 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: they always have the team each and every year. They 160 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: just got to put it together. And especially with these 161 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: last you know, a couple of years with COVID, you know, 162 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: it's definitely hard. So you know, we'll see how he does. 163 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: You know, I haven't talked to him in a while, 164 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: but I planned to talk to him, you know soon. 165 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: Do you have a story from when you were being recruited? 166 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: Was there any one particular coach that you thought was 167 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: a certain way and that surprised you, or any crazy 168 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: story that you have, I mean crazy story, maybe not, 169 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: but you know, with Chris Peterson, I just remember he 170 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: kept a photo of me in his wallet because he 171 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: knew that me being a hometown guy. He his biggest 172 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: thing that was on his mind was to try and 173 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: get me to stay home because he knew that would 174 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: kind of be a triple effect. So that was a 175 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: crazy story. And then just them come to my house. 176 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: They were great people. Just how genuine there were. You know, 177 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: for me, it was definitely easy to see the genuine 178 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: people versus the people that would you know, kind of 179 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: car salesman type of coaches and guys like that. So 180 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: with you, Dug, everyone was so genuine. They told me 181 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: the truth, of course, you know, told me right on, 182 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: like you're not just gonna start right away, You're gonna 183 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: work your way up to the top. And you know 184 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: that's what I did my freshman year. Were you upset 185 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: then when you didn't get picked in the first round. 186 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: What was your reaction when the hardinals traded up though 187 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: to get you early in the second round. Yeah, I 188 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: definitely thought I was a first round pick. I definitely 189 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: thought I was the best safety coming out. But for me, 190 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, the negative thing about me was my size 191 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: and my height, and I knew I can't really do 192 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: anything about that going into mine, you know, at the 193 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: time my true junior year after that season playing Alabama 194 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: had a great game, you know, lost to them, but 195 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: the biggest things was your height and your size, and 196 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: can't really change that. So for me, I knew I 197 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: wanted to go out and I knew all it takes 198 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: is one team. So for me is as soon as 199 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: I get my foot in the door, I felt like 200 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna take that opportunity in For the Cardinals 201 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: to trade up for me, that was definitely special because 202 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: that showed me that they really, you know, wanted to 203 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: get me when a team trades up for you, So 204 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: I was definitely excited and happy. I didn't think I 205 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: was gonna go to the Cardinals just because of you know, 206 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: the players they kind of had, so for me to 207 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: get drafted by them, it was definitely excited and definitely 208 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: my rookie year learned from those guys. Did you meet 209 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals at all or was it a complete 210 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: shock because you didn't really know anybody in the organization. 211 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: You know, I met with like twenty eight teams at 212 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: the combine, which was definitely hard because you have those 213 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: fifteen minute interviews each and every day. I feel like 214 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: I had like twelve interviews and one night, and I 215 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: was like very tolling of course, with having to run 216 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: to forties and the benches and all that type of stuff. 217 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: But that's all for you know, your mental They do 218 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: that for a reason. They want to see who can 219 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, still comprehend those things and still you know, 220 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: show out on the field once it's time to go 221 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: on the field. And you know, I met with Cardinals 222 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: and they were great. I met you know, at the 223 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: time it was BA and Steve and you know those guys, 224 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: and they were all cool and it was it was great. 225 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: Any strange question from any of those interviews, anything you 226 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: remember that You're like, man, I can't believe that dude 227 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: just asked me that. Yeah, I mean I think it 228 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: was the Bengals. The Bengals, Cincinnati Bengals. I go in 229 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: and first of all, when you go in, usually guys 230 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: like you know, they greet you and stuff. But when 231 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: I went in there that everyone was just quiet and 232 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: staring at me, and I was just like, hey, how 233 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: are you guys doing? Just some guys looking at me? 234 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: And then first question was what is forty percent of 235 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: two hundred? I was like, you know, I kind of 236 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: took at it like I was kind of you know, 237 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: I didn't really know I was going to get a 238 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: question like that. I'm like nervous that. I'm like, okay, 239 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: forty's running through my mind. I better get it right. Yeah. 240 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm worried about my plays, like making sure you know 241 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: what's under over, like making sure I know my defenses 242 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: and stuff. And the first question is what's forty percent 243 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: and two hundred? So that's not the weirdest thing the 244 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: Bengals have done. But that's so I'll have a whole 245 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: podcast on that, maybe with AJ Green at some point 246 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: or Carson when we get them on. So, you're the 247 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: second highest paid safety in the NFL now with Justin 248 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: Simmons getting his deal. Yeah. Um, recently you have the 249 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: Madden ranking, the ESPN ranking, the Pro Football Focus ranking, 250 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: which I assume you want to hit on that. How 251 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: did they come up with number sixteen? That's what I 252 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: want to know, you know, for me, it's just like, 253 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 1: I just feel like someone over there doesn't like me. 254 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: Um they said, I I'm my coverage grade is like 255 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: a sixty percent or and I gave up five touchdowns 256 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: last year. And it's just like, man, where are you 257 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: getting this stuff? But those are guys opinions, Guys who 258 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if they played the game 259 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: of football or not. I don't know if they know 260 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: our defenses, they know our playbooks, and they know you know, 261 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: who's getting scored on who and what stuff. But you know, 262 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: I kind of just let that go in one ear 263 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: and out the other. I definitely was kind of disrespected 264 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: when I saw that, But at the end of the day, 265 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: it's their opinions. It's a free world. They can have 266 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: their opinions. I'll just I'll just keep showing out each 267 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: and every week exactly. You change your number of this 268 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: year to number three, which makes my job harder. I've 269 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: had to relearn the roster. I'm like looking at like, 270 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: who's number three, Oh, that's foot up and you know, 271 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: doing college college football every week, so I'm used to 272 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: seeing like a defensive lineman wearing number six, but now 273 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: it's in the NFL. So it's I know, obviously that's 274 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: far from anything you're concerned with, but why the number three? 275 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: You were thirty two in high school and then thirty 276 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: sixty with the Cardinals. Why did you change the number three? 277 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: I mean, of course I war thirty six with the 278 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals and then was able to wear thirty two again. 279 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: But for me, it was just kind of having my 280 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: own number. You know, first time they ever let dbs 281 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: and people wear single digit numbers. So for me, I 282 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: already knew I was gonna try and use that to 283 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: take that number and play on defense. So just a 284 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: number no other defensive back and Cardinals here has had, 285 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully I can do great things with 286 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: that number and see those see that number in the 287 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: wrap theres someday. What for fans that are listening to 288 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: this going into the season, what do you think will 289 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: be different about the defense of this year? You know, 290 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: in the beginning of camp, I just try to talk 291 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: to guys and just say, like, we're very average these 292 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: last four years, and I don't want to be average anymore. 293 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm done with being average. So when I see things 294 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: that are average on the field, I'm going to be 295 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: talking to you about it. Everybody just being held accountable 296 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: of things and just let guys know we're brothers at 297 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: the end of the day. But if you mess up something, 298 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on you about it, just like if 299 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: I mess up something, you should get on me about it. 300 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, everybody wants to 301 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: be at the top and all the guys being held 302 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: accountable of things on the defense and getting into their 303 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: playbooks and understanding you know, defense is because we were 304 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: a game short last year and we were a way 305 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: better defense than what we showed last year. So this year, 306 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: everyone being held accountable, taking it day by day, not 307 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: looking at what's in four weeks or five weeks, but 308 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: one week at a time, one day at a time, 309 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: and things are going to be special. So we'll see. 310 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: We've heard a lot about the focus of Steve come 311 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: was to bring in more leadership, be more physical. Have 312 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: you noticed the difference in the locker room in terms 313 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: of leadership with some of the auditions and without naming names, 314 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: some of the substractions that aren't here anymore. I mean 315 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: there's definitely leadership, you know on the defense, leadership on 316 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: the team, and you know, Steve Kim and this staff 317 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: has done a great job of bringing good guys in 318 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: and guys that want to learn, and guys that you know, 319 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: want to have those leadership qualities and have those leadership 320 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: qualities and has done great things in the NFL. So 321 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, for us, we're just so excited and like 322 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: I said, we're just all being taken accountable, being held accountable, 323 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: and want to get better each and every day. So 324 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: that's all that matters. I know it's early in camp, 325 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: but just I'm curious, based on conversations you've had with 326 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: some of the young guys or what you've seen in 327 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: practice or even going back to mini campus, they're a 328 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: player that maybe we're not thinking about that we need 329 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: to have a rise on here. Oh. I mean, I 330 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: think there's a bunch of players, you know, especially with 331 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: I mean these young draft picks, these young guys. All 332 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: these guys are really good guys. They want to be coach, 333 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: they want to learn, and you know, I give tremendous respect, 334 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: you know for these young guys because a lot of 335 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: young guys when they get drafted, they kind of think 336 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: they're you know, the shi t and they just don't 337 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: want to do you know, they don't want to do things, 338 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: They don't want to do the hard things. But with 339 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: all these young guys, they want to work, they want 340 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: to get better, and I'm excited for of course, they're 341 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 1: Zavin Isaiah who's in his second year, and I'm just 342 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: excited for this defense Chandler coming back. It's it's gonna 343 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: be special. Do you like camp? Do you like to 344 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: come to training camp? And their players who don't like it, 345 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: they would rather just get to the preseason games or 346 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: even just get to the regular season. I work with 347 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley. I mean he loved camp. He loved the hitting, 348 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: he loved he was doing three days that. Yeah, do 349 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: you enjoy it? I'm not saying I love camp, but 350 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: I'll say I embrace it, you know, I embrace the grind. 351 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: You kind of embrace the suck in a sense. And 352 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: this camp, of course, there's guys. You're able to go home, 353 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: you know. So I'm able to go home each and 354 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: every night, get my good meals, my good stretches, and 355 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: come back the next morning and work, you know, my 356 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: ass off. So and I'm excited. I'm very excited. Embrace 357 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: the suck. I think I'm gonna use that when I 358 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: get like an assignment that I don't like, Hey, you're 359 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: doing this game this week. I'm gonna be like, I 360 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: just gotta embrace the sun, Gotta just embrace it. JJ Watt, 361 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: what was your first impression when he walked in? Man, 362 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: big guy, you know, tall, long, strong, saw him in 363 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: the weight room, a little strong, loves you know, kind 364 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: of a meathead in a type of sense when I 365 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: see j. J. Watt, but a guy who's a great guy, 366 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: loves to work, and I'm excited to have him on 367 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: our team. What about AJ Green, because it's somebody that 368 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: when I sat down with Cliff, he brought up AJ unsolicited, 369 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: and just watching Aj in camp, it's noticeable that this 370 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: guy still has it. What have you seen? Of course, 371 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: like you said, I mean, he's in He's in the 372 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: Great A Z Sunny Hot every day. It's beautiful. He 373 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: still has that jew still has that burst speed that 374 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: where he can go deep, but also that speed where 375 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: he can go deep and then sit it down real 376 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: quick in a one two punts. So having him in 377 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: d hop is special just for k one having those weapons, 378 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: and then especially you know Kurt in the slot, he's 379 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: fast and the new additions that we have as well. 380 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: Fast guys can get in and out of their breaks, 381 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: and I'm excited for this offense for sure. But Aj, 382 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: like he said, he still has that juice. He can 383 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: break on a dime, catch the ball, and I'm excited 384 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: to see what he can do with the Cardinals. Anything 385 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: that stands out to you about Kyler Murray that's different? Oh? 386 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: For me, I feel like his arm strength is definitely better. 387 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: He's always had great arm strength, but you know there's 388 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: one time in practice he's rolling all the way to 389 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: the right sideline and he flicks the ball to d 390 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: hop and it's like a fifty five yard throw in 391 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: the middle the field across his body, so and it's 392 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: a dart. So his arm strength. His accuracy has always 393 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: been good, which gets better each and every year, but 394 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: that armstram is special. You've made so many big time 395 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: plays in a short time in the NFL, But it 396 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: seems like from a national perspective, the play that everybody 397 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: talks about is the DK Metcalf play. Yeah, and I'm 398 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: sure you get asked about that a ton ye. I mean, 399 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: is there an interview you do or a person you 400 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: talk to that doesn't bring it up that just talks 401 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: about you. No, not one interview since that's happened has 402 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: been something about me. But of course, I mean it 403 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: was a play. It was good play on him, but 404 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, great play on me. They were in the 405 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: red zone, they had three automatically try to go fast, 406 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: long series, get the interception, take it all the way 407 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: to whatever yard line, get the chance for the offense 408 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: to get points on the board, and ultimately we won 409 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: that game. Now, if we lost that game, you know, 410 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: that would have been a spectacular play by him. But 411 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: we won the game. So or whatever, your play went 412 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: longer in terms of winning the game for the Cardinals 413 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: than his play did in terms of impacting the exact, 414 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: which is what matters most. So, looking at this season 415 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: with the Seahawks and the Rams on the forty nine ers, 416 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: do you feel like there is a team that's more 417 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: of a rival than another. I know that you probably 418 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: have to say we respect every team, but is there 419 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: one team and maybe it's Seattle because you're from there, 420 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: that like you hate and you can't wait to get 421 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: on the field with them. I mean, honestly, it's every 422 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 1: team in the NFC West. I don't like you know, 423 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: I just want to beat him. Of course, like you said, Seattle, 424 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: I love to go against them because that's a hometown 425 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: team and a team that you know, I know a 426 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: lot of the guys on that team, so I always 427 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: like to compete with those guys. And definitely when we 428 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: win those games, I'm able to come home and just 429 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're able to laugh at the those type 430 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: of situations. But I would say the Rams as well, 431 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: just because we haven't beat him, and I really want to, 432 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, get that opportunity again to play them, because 433 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: we got to get over that hump. They've just been 434 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: a team that's had our numbers for you know, ever 435 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: since I've been here, So try to, you know, beat 436 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: the Rams for sure. Larry Wilson, Adrian Wilson, Pat Tillman, 437 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew, You're in that conversation and great list of 438 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: safeties that have played for the Cardinals. How does that 439 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: make you feel? Are you familiar with those guys? I mean, obviously, Tie, 440 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: but do you remember Adrian when he played Larry Wilson? 441 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: I mean, all I know is the guy played with 442 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: broken hands. Like I'm too young to remember Larry when 443 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: he may but you know, obviously he was a legend exactly. 444 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: Now I'm a ninety six and baby, so I'm way 445 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: too young for that. But um, Adrian Wilson, hard hitter guy, 446 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: um guy who played corner as well, so versatility. Of course, 447 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: there's Tyrn Matthew, who's my stature. Can you know? It's 448 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: versatle as well, And it's over there doing really good 449 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. And for me, it's just, you know, 450 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: I don't really let that get to my head right now, 451 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: going into year five. I'm just trying to be the 452 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: best I can as a person player and you know, 453 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that when I'm out of this game. 454 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm just focused on being the best 455 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: player I can each and every day for myself, for 456 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: this team, and just trying trying to get get the 457 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals back up. You know, you mentioned a ninety six baby, 458 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: and so you're twenty five. You've got a long way 459 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: to go in this game. But do you have you 460 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: thought about what you want to do down the road 461 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: at some point? It's interesting because there I had a 462 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: conversation with Chris Paul in preseason when we were doing 463 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: a Son's game and a lot of these guys now 464 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: that have made the kind of money that Chris Paul's 465 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: made and that you're on track to make. If they're 466 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: not talking about getting into being a coach or a 467 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: manager general manager, they're talking about ownership. Like Chris, his 468 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: mentor isn't Michael Jordan, it's Bob Eiger, who is the 469 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: long time CEO at Disney. When I would do Clipper games, 470 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: Billy Crystals on one side of our table and Bob 471 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: Iger's on the other, Chris Paul, you had to go 472 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: a dab up you know, uh is a dab or 473 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: dap Billy Crystal because it's Billy Crystal. Yeah, but then 474 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: he goes over to Bob Iger, like that's his mentor. 475 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: Have you thought at all about down the road what 476 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: you want to do? Yeah? I mean for me, it's 477 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: kind of just uh like investing into things, just slowly 478 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: getting good cash cast that no one really knows about it, 479 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: and just you know, people don't think that our people 480 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: just think I'm a football player, but I like to 481 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: invest into things and hopefully get more money in my 482 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: investments than I am playing this game. So you know, 483 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that, you know, hopefully ten years down 484 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, you got, you got plenty of time. 485 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm just curious because again it's shifted where he used 486 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: to be. Players wanted to be. They either want if 487 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: they stayed in football or basketball, was coaching, scouting. Now 488 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: it's ownership because of the money that's available to players. 489 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: You're about to be a father. How do you think 490 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: that will change your life? Oh? Man, it's gonna be 491 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: special for me, you know, having a little baby girl. 492 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: So of course a lot of my girl dad friends 493 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: tell me that I'm gonna be as softie and all 494 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 1: that type of stuff, and you're gonna be soft in football. 495 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: But for me, I don't think I'm gonna be soft 496 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: in football. I'm gonna want to go harder. But I'll 497 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: definitely be soft for my little daughter. And that will 498 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: definitely be a special moment to see her, you know, 499 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: see her born, because I will be there for sure 500 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: no matter what. And the due date is December third. 501 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: December third is that game day? Off the top of 502 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: my head, I'm trying to think. Nope. We play Chicago 503 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: Bears on the fifth, I believe, and that will be 504 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: in Chicago. So you know, I've had that conversation with 505 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: you know the ownership and mister Bidwell and Steve and Cliff, 506 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: and I just told him straight up like I gotta 507 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: there for my daughter's born day and I'm gonna be 508 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: there no matter what. So even when we're in Chicago, 509 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: if I have to go back, I'm gonna do it 510 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: because my kids, my daughter will always be there long 511 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: after the game of football. And I definitely feel like 512 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be special for me, my first blood child, 513 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: to be there for her to see me no matter what, 514 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: even if she doesn't remember, I still want to be there. 515 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: I want to remember. So that's all always be good. 516 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: That's awesome, man, much respect on that. Your demeanor in 517 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 1: talking with you, and I've heard a lot of universe 518 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: the first time you and I've really sat down and chattered, 519 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: like very different from your demeanor on the field. When 520 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: you step on the field, What is going through your mind? 521 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: Do you have to put yourself in a different state 522 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: of consciousness? Almost? I mean I don't put myself it 523 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: just you know, it just comes out, you know that 524 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: what should I say? That different personality comes out when 525 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: I get on that field. I'm just excited. It's party time. 526 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: Like Brian Dawkins would say, And you know, I loved 527 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: watching the ed reads, the Brian Dawkins, the Ray Lewis 528 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: is when they get on the field and m it 529 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: was definitely special. And you know, for me, it just 530 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: comes out like I'm not trying to act no type 531 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: of ways. It just comes out when I get on 532 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: the field, I'm excited and I want to help my 533 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: team win the game. So you know, during the game, 534 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: it's all fun and games. After the game, I get 535 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: back into my chill mood and probably very sore, get 536 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: myself a nice glass of wine or something and chill 537 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: out for the night. All right, So what do you like? 538 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: What's your veno of choice? You know, I'm a peano guy. 539 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: I like peeno no wars um, you know, calves sometimes 540 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: with a steak, but I'm more of a smooth peeno 541 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: no wir guy. Just go right into the wine celler 542 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: at the house, get one out, and I get I 543 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: got a good air raidor too. You know a lot 544 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: of a lot of those er raiders are you know, 545 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: you need a good one to have it more clear 546 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: and taste better. Smart man, you gotta figure it out. Yeah, 547 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: got to figure it out. I might be twenty five, 548 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: but you know, I learned some things. It's good. That's 549 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: good the core OFVIN. So if the core OFVIN, you 550 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: don't have to open the bottle. You can stick the 551 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: core of it and poor then you can save them all. 552 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly, you can do that as well. So 553 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: you're you're very talkative. You've been great in this setting, 554 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: and you're very talkative on the field. There's a time 555 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: I understand when you're not talkative, and that's when you're 556 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: doing sign language. Tell me about your background with ASL. 557 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: I have a daughter who she could have done Spanish 558 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: or American Sign language, and she chose ASL, and she 559 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: doesn't use it a lot, but it's really cool when 560 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: she does because you see how comfortable it makes another person, yea, 561 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: that they can have a relationship without speaking exactly. You know, 562 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: my freshman year in high school, I took Spanish and 563 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: I just I didn't really get a good grade on it, 564 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: So you had my junior year of high school, I 565 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: actually went to a community college to do ASL, and 566 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: that's when I first started it. And you know, at 567 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: the time, I think I had a broken thumb, so 568 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: I had sign with my left hand, So that definitely 569 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: made my left hand more like coordinated kind of in 570 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: a sense. And you know, going into college at the 571 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: University of Washington, I took it there for two years 572 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: as well. And it's definitely special because there are deaf 573 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: people in this world, and you know, a lot of 574 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: hearing people can't communicate to them, whether it's it's only 575 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: by text message or you know, maybe on social media, 576 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: but in person it's you know, hard, you can't really 577 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: communicate to them. So for me, anytime I see a 578 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: deaf person, I try to talk to them and just say, hey, 579 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: how are you. You know, introduce myself my name. They say, 580 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: how are you? Where do you learn sign language? I 581 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: tell them University of Washington and it's great, good conversations. 582 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: They smile hard, and you know, that's definitely special for me. 583 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: So you know, I'll continue to understanding, and if I'm 584 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: ever losing it, of course I still you know, you 585 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: still have your things to where you can go back 586 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: on and learn some things. So yeah, there a specific example, 587 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: a particular story that sticks with you that it is 588 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: something that you'll remember for a long time about an 589 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: interaction you have. I mean, one time I was with 590 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: Chandler actually, and we were, you know, taking our trips 591 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: at the time in the off season, and we're at 592 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: the airport and you know, we left our left our 593 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: car in the airport, so we had to go walk 594 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: to our car. And at the airport and I see 595 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: a you know, a deaf person sitting down signing on 596 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: his cell phone. And I walk up. I go up 597 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: to them because you know, deaf people like that when 598 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: a hearing person likes to go up and talk to them. 599 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: So I go up to him, say, hey, you know, 600 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: how are you. My name's Buddha. He's like, hey, how 601 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: are you. My name's you know, Ali, and then tells 602 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: his friend tell him hello, and you know, I say, 603 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: nice to meet you, and he smiles and it's great, 604 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: good conversation. So that was definitely a special moment for me. Well, 605 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, man, you're an impressive dude. I've 606 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: been such a big fan of you as a player, 607 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: but just hearing and I've known your story, but hearing 608 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: more about you and the type of person you are, 609 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: just your compassion for people, and you know how the 610 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: story about how you want to be there for your daughter, 611 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: to be there for the birth no matter what, even 612 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: if that means you end up missing a game. I mean, 613 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: it's just it's great. I think when Cardinal fans and 614 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: NFL fans and people maybe if they aren't even football fans, 615 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: here the story they're they're gonna walk away saying, man 616 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: that that Buddha Baker is a special dude. So I 617 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: really appreciate the time. I appreciate that for sure. Yeah, 618 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: me too. And I appreciate everything you're saying. And yeah, 619 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: like he said, first with my daughter, I gotta be there. 620 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: I love football, you know, I know I mean a 621 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: lot to this team, and you know they mean a 622 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: lot to me as well. And I love these guys. 623 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: And if that conversation has to happen, I'll have that 624 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: conversation before the game, before we get there. But you know, hopefully, 625 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, we have that bye week before. Hopefully it 626 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: happens a little bit before that so I can be there. 627 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: But like you said, no matter what, I gotta see 628 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: my my daughter be you know, born. I gotta see 629 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: however many kids I have born, so don't understand, yea, 630 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: And if they don't, that's that's there. They don't exactly 631 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: like you said, my friend Bill Walton missed two of 632 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: his kids' births. Yeah, so you know, uh, hey, you 633 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: know you gotta be there. Yeah, exactly for me, I 634 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: just gotta be there one hundred percent. Gotta be there, 635 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: all right. Appreciate your Buddha. Appreciate you too, man. How 636 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: can you not be impressed listening to the heart of Buddha. Baker. 637 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: He loves football, family, He even loves strangers. His story 638 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: about using sign language to engage the hearing impaired was 639 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: absolutely inspirational. I mean, I've enjoyed watching Baker tremendously on 640 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: the field the last few years, but after spending time 641 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: with Buddha, I'm gonna root for him even more to succeed. 642 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: I love his leadership too. He said, Look, we're brother, 643 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: but if you're not doing your job, I'm gonna walk 644 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: up on you. I'm gonna hold you accountable. I'll love 645 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: you in the end, but I'm tired of being average. 646 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: And he was very thoughtful talking about where the team 647 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: needs to improve, but upset at the way the defense 648 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: and how he's been portrayed in some circles. Part of 649 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: Baker being undersized and not being a first round draft 650 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: pick when he thought he should have been continues to 651 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: be motivation to prove everybody wrong. That's usually what makes 652 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: a good player, a great player, that drive to never 653 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: be satisfied and to be the best, and Buddhast certainly 654 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: has that. And I can't wait to watch Baker in 655 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: two twenty one. So that'll do it for episode two 656 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: of the Dave Passh Podcast. I want to thank again 657 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: are presenters BETMGM, the official sports betting partner of the 658 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals and Hila River Hotels and Casinos. Coming up 659 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: next week, the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals, Cliff Kingsbury, 660 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: and ESPN NFL analyst Mina Kimes. We have some great 661 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: guests in the future. Expected to join the Dave Pash Podcast. 662 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: Two members of the ESPN Monday Night Football team, Steve 663 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: Levy and Brian Greasy. The owner of the Arizona Cardinals, 664 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell, a guy that went from being a player 665 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals to the president of an NFL 666 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: team in less than a decade. Jason Wright from the 667 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: Washington Football team is expected to join us as his 668 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: actor James Rode from A Million Little Things and Psyche 669 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: and comedian Frank Caliendo, Ron Wolfley, of course, and Bill 670 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: Wolton and many more. Talk to you next week. Thanks 671 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: again for listening to Dave Passed podcast m