1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the Whitetail Woods, presented by First Light, 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: Case Smith and Tyler Jones. 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: The rut has been rocking and Roland. It is Thanksgiving 7 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: week and I am very thankful for many things in 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: this world, and I am thankful that this gear are 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: still doing the thing. This is rot Fresh. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: Let's go. 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: What's going on? Everyone? Welcome to rut Fresh Radio, rock 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: you by First Light Gear. I'm your host k C. 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: Smith. 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: Tyler Jones is here as well, and want to inform 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: you first and foremost that you need to be thankful. 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: You have a lot to be thankful for. I don't 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: care who you are. 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: Don't do this to me. Why you know what you're doing? 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: No, I don't. It's it's for real, man. I mean, 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: there's there's just the air we breathe, the woods outside, 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: the near running around. You know, the life that we've 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: been gifted is a blessing and I'm thankful for it. 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: If you are the kind of person who thinks that 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: you might want to buy some gifts for some people. 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 2: First Light is having a Black Friday seal, right, now, 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: you can go in there and get you all kinds 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: of good stuff. You can even have it in time 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: for some winter hunting if you want to. 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: Are we going to have a first Light cell at 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: the Element? What do you mean? Sorry? Are we going 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: to have a Black Friday cell at the Element? Maybe? 32 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: I hope, So, I don't know, I hope. So we 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: were fixing me selling some T shirts and shirts and stuff. 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: So I'm pretty scad about that. Yeah, But I'm most 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: excited this week for hen. Turkey's on my plate? Dude, 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: do you have one to eat? And I mean, I 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: got a turkey. I'm sure my mom's gonna make a 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: turkey for us. I'm sure, but I don't know if 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a hen. But what do you think 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: they do? You can't make it? God will sound very 41 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: good with my mouth. What do you think they do 42 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: with all the hens? 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: Because I think that the most of is that what 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: it is, They just all go into production. I think 45 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: so the majority of turkey that's eating is probably gobs. 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: If there if you're cooking a big guy or a 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: big turkey. It's probably a god right, Yeah, it's gotta be. Yeah, 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: that's interesting. Yeah, I bet it's like cattle man. 49 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: I beat heifers too. 51 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're mostly eating steers and letting them Yeah, 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: halfsp so probably so. 53 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Tyler, it's a weird time of year. But 54 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: I can tell you that just from some of our 55 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: recent experiences. I'm gonna be honest with you. I had 56 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: a little bit of the oh no, it's over. I 57 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: missed my operaortunity. Did you I did? When did you 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: have that? Probably driving home about a week and a 59 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: half ago. It felt like once we got to the 60 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: twenties in the dates that it was just like man, 61 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: no more. Really, I felt I felt better about the 62 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: second I know you do. I think that it's because 63 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: you just have a little more experience hunting some of 64 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: the Midwestern stuff in the later dates than I do. 65 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: I've just well, one year, I did kill a buck 66 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: on the twenty third, but outside of that, I've killed 67 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: a deer fifteenth and earlier pretty much anytime I've hunted 68 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: the Midwest, and you're so good. No, it's just because 69 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: I'm willing to shoot smaller deer than you, no whatever 70 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: do I do think, you know, to just kind of 71 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: offer that encouragement that we do to try to be 72 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 2: pretty encouraging around here. Man, deer doing the thing almost 73 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: until the new year in most of the country, as 74 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: weird as that sounds, and especially in the next couple 75 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: of weeks, right, I mean, and truth be told, even 76 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: once kind of the rut does seem to be over, 77 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: you know, bed to food is still a really good 78 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: way to kill a deer. Yeah, And so like there's 79 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: just a lot of opportunity out there. I don't know. 80 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: One of the things I kind of learned throughout this 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: rut is that I might not actually like the rut 82 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: as much as I thought I did. Really, Yeah, you're 83 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: a little bit of inpredicted, unpredictable for sure. 84 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 3: Right now, What if you were a guy who only 85 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: had five acres, would you like the rut more? 86 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: You think? 87 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: And I only hunted that. 88 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying is like if you didn't 89 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: have because you got a couple of nice private tracks 90 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 3: to hunt, yeah, and so do I. And there that's 91 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: because we hunt together. I mean, if if you deer 92 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: in public, if you're in public or something like that. 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: You may like the rut better because you know these 94 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: people that have not that we have any of this 95 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 3: on our private pieces or anything, but like the's people 96 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 3: that have these big old summer food plots and all 97 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: you know, they're leaving corn and all this, and that 98 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: you might you might only have a chance of that 99 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: deer on their property during rut. 100 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: I think that limited time would make me like the 101 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: rut more than limited acreage. I think that if you 102 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: if you're a kind of guy who hunts only on 103 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: the weekends or you know, uh, just only has like 104 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: maybe five days total in the woods, Yeah, the rut 105 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: is just awesome because you there's gonna be deer running 106 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: around and you can you can manipulate them. Was calling inside. 107 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: I think also for a guy that wants to kill 108 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: like a pope and young say, but if you're like, oh, 109 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: I'm holding out for that one sixty, that's you know, 110 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: or I'm the guy who's holding out for a target 111 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 3: deer right like you. I mean you may not even 112 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: have one sixties where you're at yet, maybe that your 113 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: target deer is a one forty one or whatever. 114 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: Limited and limited time both don't like if I could 115 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: advise someone don't put yourself in that box. If you're 116 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: if you have limited time, order go out and find 117 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: a dear that's doing something cool and shooting, you know, 118 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: like it's uh it's a good way to like sit 119 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: all year and kind of be miserable and maybe not 120 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: be one hundred and three. 121 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: Or four years. I'm telling you that I did the 122 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: target deer thing. I think it was day two of 123 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: that first hunt when you were like, I'm going to 124 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: leave that deer and go somewhere else, and I was like, well, 125 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: I'll go over in hunt him because you told me 126 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: how easy it was, you know, you just talk. 127 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: The first day. 128 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: After that it was ridiculously hard. Which that was the 129 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: only days with the dough. So that's that's the thing 130 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: that made a difference, you know. And so uh he 131 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: became uh more predictable outside of his rut behavior, but 132 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: also because of that deer uh and what he is 133 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: and who like, how how he behaves right, how wise 134 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: that deer is, and how arrey he is, it made 135 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: him extremely hard hunt. 136 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 137 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you had a deer that was 138 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: just bed to food, not super wise to hunters or whatever, 139 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 3: October could be a pretty good time for you. 140 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: It could be it might be uh in the future 141 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: for us too. 142 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: You know. 143 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: It's uh, every deer season is different, and this one 144 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: has definitely felt a lot different than the ones in 145 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: the past, and it's how it's always going to feel. 146 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: And it's really one of the things that keeps us 147 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: liking to do it for sure, you know, because it's uh, 148 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: you just there's no like, oh, remember fourth is a 149 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: day when we kill the deer this year, and it's 150 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: how it's always going to be. 151 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always different, dude. I'll tell you. There's a 152 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: there's a thing that we deal with because you know, 153 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 3: we do have we have to make plans for where 154 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 3: we go in the year, and so like you either 155 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: have limited you do have limited time sometimes, but it's 156 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 3: only in that area or whatever. And so I think 157 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 3: what you sometimes what you run into or I feel 158 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: this a lot, is like, oh, dude, I'm not going 159 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: to kill on this trip because you know, the ruts 160 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: winding down this next trip and then from there I 161 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: got to go do this and that's not going to 162 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: be that great a hunt. It's just something kind of 163 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: stuck in there or whatever. And it's like you start 164 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: looking at things. You're like, obviously, being tired kind of 165 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: uh can affect your attitude as well, right, And also 166 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 3: and you're just like, I'm not going to kill another 167 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: deer this year, Right've killed one and that's all. That's 168 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: all we kill this year, you know, which I mean 169 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: most people would love to kill just one deer year, 170 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: you know, I mean one big buck, right, But I 171 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: just I feel that way sometimes And then I come 172 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: home from a trip like we just had, and I'm like, man, 173 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: I just need to not I just need to not 174 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: like worry about that stuff, probably quite as much as 175 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: I do, and just which I've done better, but I like, 176 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 3: just continue to hunt hard, that's the main thing, right, Like, 177 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: continue to go out there, get up at the right time, 178 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: go out there, don't sit in the truck too long 179 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: when you get to the parking spot. 180 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: These are all things that I did and still kill 181 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: the deer, sofa. 182 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: And you can, right, But like you're also really really 183 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: good on the ground, so I think that, yeah, but 184 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 3: you also have you have the the kind of note 185 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 3: don't give up kind of thing too, Like you may 186 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: not have the get started kind of thing, but you 187 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: don't you have to don't get up the kind of 188 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: thing you gotta. 189 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: You gotta be able to judge your situation. And you know, 190 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: if you're going to glass from a vehicle, there's no 191 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: reason to be there an hour before the sun gets up. 192 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, but if you do, then you get 193 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: you might bump the deer because you're moving your trucks. 194 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: What do you know about that? 195 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: I know something about it, so Tyler. 196 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: What Tyler is alluding to is that him and I 197 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 2: both had some really great blessings of success this past 198 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: week and those have been posted over on the Element 199 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: Instagram if you want to check that out, and. 200 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: We'll talk about it on our podcast too. 201 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: We're talking about it on our podcast. It's coming out 202 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: pretty soon as well. But enough about us, y'all are 203 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: here to hear from hunters around the country. Tyler, who 204 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: do we have this week? 205 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: Well, we've got one of our good buddies, Patrick pay Singer. 206 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: He works with that end game calls and somehow being 207 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: known for their turkey calls. Patrick is just a white 208 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: tailed deer killer. He is. He finds a way to 209 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: shoot Mondo's and he's going to be talking to us 210 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: about Tennessee. We've also got another dead end game called 211 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: guy who's Jeremy Kritcher out in North Carolina. He killed 212 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 3: him a buck out there the other day. And that's 213 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: that's North Carolina's kind of under the radar kind of place. 214 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 3: So I feel like there's some pretty good bucks and 215 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 3: there's real cool habitat. 216 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: It might be the prettiest state in the country. I 217 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: need to go there, Yeah, for sure, for sure you do. Yeah, 218 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: you should go there sometime and do that. Jake Belinda 219 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: who had some recent success in another state, but he 220 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: will be in Pennsylvania and has been there for the 221 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: next foreseeable future. So he's got a good report from 222 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: US for US for that state. And we've got our 223 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: own Chris Christopher Webb who has been hunting Texas and 224 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: killed just such a nice, just dark headed deer the 225 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 2: other day here in North Texas. Awesome, let's get the reports. 226 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: We are making the rounds with dead end game calls 227 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 2: today because we have got Patrick Paysinger in Tennessee. Man, 228 00:10:59,000 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: what's going on? 229 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: Patrick? 230 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: Not much? 231 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 5: Brother? 232 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: You seen them deer out there? Yes, I am. 233 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 6: I actually sat Sunday evening after church about gotten the 234 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 6: stand about three pm. It was a good high pressure, 235 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 6: clear started cooling off real good towards sunset, and seen 236 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 6: a lot of deer, a lot of deer on their feet. 237 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 2: You know, just as a little background for folks that 238 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 2: don't know you actually are probably known for turkey hunting, 239 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: but you're quite the deer slayer yourself. And even there 240 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: where you're at in Tennessee, you've killed some of the 241 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: biggest deer around. And I don't want to make you blush, 242 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: but it's a podcast, so nobody will know. But you know, 243 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 2: Tennessee a state that isn't known for giant bucks. But 244 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: at the same time, has big Bucks had the world 245 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: record for a little while. You know, what's what's kind 246 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: of the thing that gets big bucks killed in Tennessee 247 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: in your area? 248 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 6: Yes, over the years, Tennessee has done a really good 249 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 6: job at the management and uh, you know, growing up, 250 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 6: we were a four bucks state limit and now it's 251 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 6: down to two, so that has really helped. And in 252 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 6: East Tennessee where I'm at, one of the major things 253 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 6: that we've what I've seen is is going back into 254 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 6: the nineties, when I grew up, it was all cattle 255 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 6: pasture and tobacco fields. Yeah, and once the government did 256 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 6: the big tobacco buy out. A lot of these farms 257 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 6: has transitioned over to corn and beans agriculture because we're 258 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 6: at the foothills of the mountains and it's rolling. So 259 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 6: we've got a lot of open fields and bottoms and 260 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 6: those are converted to ag. 261 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: And you know how good that is for deer. Yeah, 262 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: for sure, for sure. So in that area of the country, 263 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: is there a lot of crops still in or is 264 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff harvested? 265 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 6: Pretty much all of it's harvested. Something I do on 266 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 6: my farm. We used to I've got one hundred acres 267 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 6: there and it was growing up, it was always pasture 268 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 6: and cattle, and now I've converted. I've got a good 269 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 6: friend that does ag, so he does soy beans are corn, 270 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 6: and what he does on the back two acres, he 271 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 6: leaves it standing for me. So I've pretty much got 272 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 6: the only crops still standing. And I put a couple 273 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 6: of white tail Institute food plots that butt up right 274 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 6: against it, and you'll see the deer will transition, come out, 275 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 6: hit the clover, hit the greens, and then go into 276 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 6: the grains. 277 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 3: Man, it sounds like you got a good setup. From 278 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: here on out to the end of the year. 279 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 6: Yes, my place will get better and better because I 280 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 6: leave the pressure off I've got on the Basically, I've 281 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 6: got an acre of acre and a half of standing beans, 282 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 6: two green food play and then on the other side 283 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 6: of the green food plots, I've got an acre of CRP. 284 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 6: So they've got everything in this back corner and then 285 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 6: hardwoods on the other side of it. And I just 286 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 6: don't hunt it much. I can sit back and watch 287 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 6: it a little bit from my house and then monitor 288 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 6: the trail cameras and then whenever I see a deer 289 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 6: move in and everything's right, then I go in. 290 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: So you know, when you say see a deer, I'm 291 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 3: assuming you're talking about mostly on trail camera. Now what 292 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: are your trail camera? What do they look like right now? 293 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: Are they deer moving around? Are you seeing big bucks 294 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: show up? Are they not near the food or they 295 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: near the food? What's the deal? 296 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 6: So right now, it's smack dab in the middle of 297 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 6: just major breeding. 298 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: I'd say right in the middle of it. 299 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 6: Usually the week leading into Thanksgiving is prime time breeding. 300 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 6: And what I'm seeing is is the dose are concentrating 301 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 6: hitting the beans. They are pouring out in the bean 302 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 6: every evening and I'm seeing those those real small bucks 303 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 6: irritate them, and then I'm getting pictures or seeing those 304 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 6: big boys cruise in. 305 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: So it's it's definitely peak of the rut. 306 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: Would you say it's, uh, there's a lockdown situation going 307 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: on right now? 308 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: There is. 309 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 6: They're there, but they're bouncing off, coming on and off 310 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 6: quite a bit. But yeah, it can be that lockdown definitely, 311 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 6: because it seems like the big buck that I killed 312 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 6: two years ago on my home place, I think it 313 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 6: was the eighteenth. I had trail camera pictures the day 314 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 6: before I killed him. 315 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: Actually breeding they do. 316 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 317 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: So Tennessee is you know, technically the South and if 318 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: people are listening, they can tell from your accent for sure, 319 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: just like us, right, but surely not deer. You know, 320 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: deer in the South are kind of used to warmer tempts, 321 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: but you know, kind of across the country it's been 322 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: unseasonably warm for the November. Do you feel like that's 323 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: suppressed deer movement or are they still pretty daylight active? 324 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 6: Well, what has suppressed the deer movement where I'm from 325 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 6: is acorns. Yeah, we've had a bumper crop of acorns, 326 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 6: and until I'd say the past week, it didn't matter 327 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 6: what food I had out, I just wasn't getting many 328 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 6: deer come out into the food plots or the beans, 329 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 6: even when the beans were green and they usually demolished. 330 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 6: The end of September, we were having the white oaks fall, 331 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 6: and the deer were just staying in the woods. 332 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: So I'm so close to betting that. 333 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 6: I usually don't see the temperature play a big part 334 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 6: of that. 335 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: I think it was mostly the acorns got you. 336 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: So in the next week, do you expect the lockdown 337 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 3: situation to be different? You're going to see more buck 338 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: movement or less buck movement. How do you feel about it? 339 00:16:58,480 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: I think we're going to see more. 340 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 6: You know, we're going to get into I traditionally I 341 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 6: love that that week of Thanksgiving, in the first week 342 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 6: of December, we're right there. As you guys said, that 343 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 6: southern transition, if you look at lines Tennessee is like, 344 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 6: it's not deep. 345 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: South, it's not north. 346 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 6: I usually see that that peak of the rut, you know, 347 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 6: a week or two later, mostly in our area, and 348 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 6: from those dose getting bred the first couple of weeks, 349 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 6: you're going to see that you know. 350 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: What is that the drury is called desperately seeking. 351 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 6: They're not going to be in the complete just food mode, 352 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 6: but you're going to have those big boys still want 353 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 6: to find that last available though. 354 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. So with that being said, 355 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: do you what would you rink buck moving on a 356 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: scale of one to ten for the next week in Tennessee, 357 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: I would say a seven. That's pretty good, man, It's 358 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: a pretty good time in the woods, that's right. 359 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 6: The only reason I wouldn't give it higher just because 360 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 6: we have been in gun season since Saturday. 361 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 3: Gotcha? 362 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 2: If gun season, what wouldn't have been going on? 363 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 6: So that may suppress some dear movement just from you know, pressure, 364 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 6: But I think if you're somewhere where that pressure hadn't 365 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 6: been affected, you're going to see really good dear man. 366 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: Gotcha. All right, it's a little bit of a bonus 367 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 2: question here. Are there better weeks coming or is this 368 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: the time to be out right now? 369 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 6: I think if you have a place with low pressure, 370 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 6: you've still got to just killer weeks left. 371 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: Awesome? 372 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: Cool, all right, Patrick, appreciate the report, man, Yes, sir. 373 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: Talking to one of my old friends, Jeremy Chritcher, here 374 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: from dead End Game calls Jeremy, how's everything going, dude? 375 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 7: And too blessed to be the press? 376 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: Brother? 377 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 3: Hey, I like it, man, I like it. 378 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: Man. 379 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: Well, you guys have been blessed, y'all. Yup shot several 380 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 3: deer and been out hunting quite a bit, and y'all 381 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: are about the deadliest turkey people I know. I mean, 382 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, if ain't a turkey just out there 383 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: just shaking in its boots while I'm saying dead end 384 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 3: game calls, man, then I don't know what that turkey's doing, 385 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 3: because y'all are deadly on the turkeys. But we're talking 386 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: deer right now. You've been out there in North Carolina 387 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 3: and had some success recently. Talk about that a little bit. 388 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: What was going on when you were able to kill 389 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: that buck? 390 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 391 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: Sure? 392 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 7: So last week we finally where we're out North Carolina. 393 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 7: We're kind of at the bottom of the mountain as 394 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 7: far as Northwest goes, though, but it's been hot like 395 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 7: seventies and it's just not ideal for mid November. Finally 396 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 7: had a good col frut push in, but it rained 397 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 7: the whole day. But I was watching the wind for 398 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 7: this particular buck and the col frut push, and I 399 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 7: was like, man, as soon as it's rain stops, he's 400 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 7: gonna want to get up. And sure enough, about an 401 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 7: hour before it quit, he was on his feet by himself. 402 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 7: And but then I got in the stand hoping to 403 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 7: hunt that evening, and it just. 404 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: Right there last. 405 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 7: Light, it come a quick rain. So I kind of 406 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 7: got caught in the rain again, and that messed me 407 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 7: up because I thought I had everything. 408 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: I didn't think I got as wet as I actually got. 409 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 7: And a couple of days later, still good, cold, frosty 410 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 7: morning got in there and he come right in, just 411 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 7: as pretty as he pleases, and just blew the cap 412 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 7: on him. 413 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 2: The powder didn't nignight. Oh. I was like, man, this 414 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: is not happening. 415 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 7: But he's still there, And I was like, how did 416 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 7: he not spook? And put another cap in? And I'm 417 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 7: just like, Lord, please help this shot to go off 418 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 7: and just. 419 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 2: The cap again? 420 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 3: Oh man, And I'm like he's still there. So where 421 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: did he? Was he coming into food or what? 422 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 7: Yes, at this point on camera, a couple of nights 423 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 7: he had been with some doze, but this morning in particular, 424 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 7: he was coming into cornpile. 425 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: Got you, and oh he well, he was hungry that morning. 426 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: I guess why he wouldn't leave. 427 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 3: If I was a deer, I'd be killed at food 428 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: for sure. 429 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: That's my problem. 430 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 3: We had. 431 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 7: So so he's still there and I managed to pull 432 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 7: the gun off the tripod, unscrew my breech plug dunk 433 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 7: the powder loading now round unberknownst to me. I didn't 434 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 7: look at it enough. My breech was just caked and 435 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 7: wet powder. So when I got this shot off, I 436 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 7: guess it just locked. Man, it finally ignited, but it 437 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 7: just and he ducked it. 438 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: And uh ran off And I was like, man, that's it. 439 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 7: And the next that night he actually came right back 440 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 7: with a young buck. And then the next morning he 441 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 7: was with the dough and she was hot, and he 442 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 7: he was more concerned about her, and I was like, well, 443 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 7: this evening might be it. 444 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 3: So hey, real quick on that that morning, when he's 445 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: with that dough, is he is he coming by the corn? Still? 446 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: Like is that dough leading him to corn? 447 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: Yes? So what he'll. 448 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 7: Typically what will happen that I've seen on a hot 449 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 7: dough is he might stand in the pile, but he's 450 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 7: more concerned about what she's doing. God, he may not 451 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 7: even dip his nose down. 452 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So so maybe like being at a food 453 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: source because of the dose is a pretty good reason 454 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: to be at a food source too, not just because 455 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: it draws bucks in. 456 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think, uh, we have a lot of 457 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 7: doze around here, and just and that's what led to 458 00:22:54,200 --> 00:23:00,120 Speaker 7: his destruction there that evening was because uh he left her. 459 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: I had some does. 460 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 7: Come in, young bucks come in, grunting the most vocal 461 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 7: I've ever heard them on this farm. But the doze 462 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 7: just did not want to have it, and so the 463 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 7: young bucks would absolutely run them all off. And about 464 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 7: five minutes left of legal no camera light. 465 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 4: But I was like, God, just would you give me 466 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 4: one more chance? 467 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 7: And I've paid that prayer one hundred times, but so 468 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 7: sure enough, like fifty yards from me, a deer comes 469 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 7: out of the creek, which I have never seen a 470 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 7: deer come out this way before, and I'm looking at 471 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 7: its butt and again it's dark, I'm in the woods, 472 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 7: and I see Antler's moving. I was like, I think 473 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 7: that's him. If not, it's that big seven, but I 474 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 7: think it's him. And I was like, well, he's probably 475 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 7: going to go to the bait pile and he'll turn 476 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 7: for me. 477 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 3: Here in a minute. 478 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 7: And sure enough, all he did was he he scanned 479 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 7: that field and he turned and he went back into 480 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 7: the creek to leave. And as soon as he turned 481 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 7: back into the creek, I was like, it's now or never, 482 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 7: and I shot right then and he wasn't standing at 483 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 7: eighty yards and and then he probably didn't go fifty 484 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 7: seventy five yards. 485 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: Man smoked him. That's cool, dude, congrats on the big bulls. 486 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 7: It was fun because I had my little boy and 487 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 7: my wife and Mitchell and his son. So I called 488 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 7: I called that everybody and was like, hey, I think 489 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 7: he's down. And I was like, but there's also a chance, 490 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 7: like it's not him. I was like, I think it's 491 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 7: him though, But so anyway, having man just having a 492 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 7: little tracking party with family like that was just that 493 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 7: was what it. 494 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: Was all about. That's a good time. Do you feel 495 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: like there's still gonna be doze in heat right now? Like, 496 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: are we still in the dead of the rut there? 497 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 7: I think some of it's locked down because of just 498 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 7: what I've been seeing man. Two weeks ago, two three 499 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 7: weeks ago, scrapes were unbelievable. But camera activity wise, I've 500 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 7: got a couple different cameras on the farm, and I'll 501 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 7: have a dough walking and you know, within between five 502 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 7: minutes and an hour a buckle on that same trail. 503 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 7: So I think they're still cruising. 504 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, got you? 505 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? Are they going to be pretty daylight active still 506 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: or is it just too hot? 507 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 7: So they have been more nighttime. But the good news 508 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 7: is within this next week it's supposed to get down 509 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 7: into the twenties finally, man, and so we should see. 510 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 7: I think they'll definitely be up on their feet more. 511 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 7: But I have you know, they really like those cold, 512 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 7: frosty mornings as far as what I've been saying. 513 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure cool. 514 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 7: So they're just giving far between here man, thirty minutes 515 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 7: from here up the mountain, you know, the elevation goes 516 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 7: up fifteen hundred feet. I mean they it snowed and 517 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 7: my brother was hunting the snow Saturday. 518 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 4: Wow. 519 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, how about that? 520 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: Hey, would you ever use a like a drag, like 521 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 3: a you know, a scent scent drag or whatever? 522 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 7: I have before? Actually I used one one time in 523 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 7: New York. I was hunting on one of our farmers 524 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 7: up there, and it I don't know if it makes 525 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 7: a difference or not. 526 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 4: I didn't really know what I was doing back then. 527 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just thinking because as you know, you said, 528 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 3: the Bucks will come through a half hour after a 529 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: dough comes through. I just wondered if that was That's 530 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: something I don't like doing. But I have done it 531 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 3: before too, and I don't know if I knew enough 532 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 3: either at the time. You know, Yeah, I don't think. 533 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 4: I don't know. I guess it just depends on the. 534 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: Quality of the leriu you're using. 535 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 7: But yeah, you know, when them bucks when they're when 536 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 7: their cruising, they just especially them older bucks, they worked 537 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 7: their nose so much there is no telling what can 538 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 7: happen for sure. 539 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: Well that's awesome, man, Hey, on a scale and one 540 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: to what do you think Buck movement is going to 541 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 3: be like next week? 542 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 7: Next week, I think everything's gonna be on their feet. 543 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 7: I'd say the problem is it's a little bit late. 544 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 7: They might be a little more on lockdown. But I 545 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 7: think movement's gonna. 546 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 3: Be up there. Eight. Oh okay, Yeah, that's awesome man. Well, Jeremy, 547 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. 548 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 7: Pel. 549 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate the report, Jeremy, and Uh. North Carolina 550 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: is a state that there's a lot of hunters, but 551 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 3: you don't hear a lot of press coming out of there. 552 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: So we appreciate you giving us a good detailed report 553 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: on things. Man. 554 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate it. 555 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 3: Yep, y'all have a blessed season. Man, Yes, tell you too. 556 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: On the phone, I've got Jake Belinda with the void. Jake, 557 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 3: you've been hunting up in Pennsylvania. You've been hunting all 558 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 3: over actually Pennsylvania recently. How's how's everything going in your 559 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 3: neck of the woods. 560 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 8: Man, It's been going pretty good. 561 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 5: It uh just wrapped up our our bow season, early 562 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 5: bot season. 563 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 3: So what what you've been seeing during your early bost 564 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: season is in the last week or so, what's the 565 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: what's the deer movement like, and what's what are the 566 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: things that are affecting what those deer are doing. 567 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 5: So it's the tail end of the rut here in 568 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 5: the mountains. I've been seeing a lot of really good 569 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 5: early morning movement, some mid a little bit of mid 570 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 5: day on the certain weather days, and then you know, 571 00:28:54,560 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 5: evening time the big deer are showing their face where 572 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 5: some of the younger class bucks. You know, your two 573 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 5: and a half year olds are kind of showing more 574 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 5: of a going back to food source pattern. 575 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: Okay, so when you say showing their face, they're they're 576 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: still doing the thing, the rut thing a little bit. 577 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, some of the bit. 578 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 5: In my opinion, this end of the year, this time 579 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 5: of year is a really good time to catch some 580 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 5: of those big, giant mature bucks on their feet looking 581 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 5: for the last estra's dozetcha. Right before you know that, 582 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 5: they pretty much go back into hiding. 583 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: So so do you expect to see deer that you 584 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: haven't ever seen before? Potentially if you're hunting this time 585 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: of year. 586 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I actually seen a really big dear that 587 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 5: I haven't seen. I had pictures of him in August 588 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 5: and then he disappeared and then just showed back up. 589 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm you know, he's outside of 590 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 5: his core rut range and just kind of hitting those 591 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 5: last few known pockets. 592 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 8: But it's a really good time to catch some big 593 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 8: deer on their feet. 594 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: So if they're you got bucks that are out looking 595 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: for new doughs, what kind of areas are those? Do 596 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: you find those betting in there in Pennsylvania, Like, what's 597 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: what's that stuff? 598 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 5: Looks like it's a lot of mountain hill country, so 599 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 5: leeward side, so like it would be like eastern points, 600 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 5: ridge points. Dough groups are starting to get pushed back together. 601 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 5: I'm starting to see a lot more doze instead of 602 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 5: being in singles and doubles, get going back into those 603 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 5: groups of four, five and six family groups. 604 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: Gotcha? Gotcha? 605 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: So when a buck is going to check those leeward sides, 606 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: are you is he gonna be? I guess that you're 607 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: saying leeward on the wind right? So is it gonna 608 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: be downhill of the end of of those betting areas 609 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: is kind of where you want to set up? 610 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 8: Yeah? 611 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 5: So, uh I I hunt a lot of you know, 612 00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 5: big mountaintops, so that bottom third, you know, not quite 613 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 5: the very bottom, but the bottom third. They're they're using 614 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 5: drainages to basically cut corners as quick as they can 615 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 5: to check to see if they can find any hot, 616 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 5: hot doughs on those dough betting areas. 617 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: Gotcha. So you like kind of the mid mornings then 618 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 2: for that kind of stuff. 619 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, ten o'clock, ten to ten to one on those overcasts. 620 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 5: You know, forty degree days seem to be the magic 621 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 5: for this late late rut period. 622 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: Gotcha. So in the next week or so, do you 623 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: expect things to change much much in Pennsylvania as far 624 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 3: as do your movement goes, especially buck movement. 625 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 626 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 5: Uh, it's definitely gonna change, and it's due with a 627 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 5: multiple of factors. I mean, we have a very large 628 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 5: hunting pressure numbers starting bear season just came in, and 629 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 5: then rifle seasons coming up next week. And the older 630 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 5: age class of bucks if they're not on a dough 631 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 5: basically the young fond does this. 632 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 8: Uh, I see him going. 633 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 5: Back to their their places of hide that they've you know, 634 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 5: survived four five and six years to get away from 635 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 5: the gun hunting pressure. 636 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: Gotcha? Gotcha? Okay, so those places, what do those places 637 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 3: look like? The hiding places? 638 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 5: Man, it's very in so everywhere, but uh, steep hillsides, 639 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 5: thick terrain, mountain orl thickets where they have isolated food 640 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 5: sources for you know, mature dear. Once they're done with 641 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 5: the rut here this next week, they like to be 642 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 5: isolated and kind of by themselves. You still may catch 643 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 5: one or two on some dough dough groups. You know, 644 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 5: you have that second cycle coming in about the third 645 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 5: of December here, and you might catch a buck on 646 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 5: his feet, you know, following some does, but a lot 647 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 5: of the majority is going to be isolated by themselves. 648 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: Cool. All right. 649 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: So on a scale of one to ten over the week, 650 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: what are you gonna rank buck movement in Pennsylvania? 651 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be a pretty good I would 652 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 8: say seven, because we're getting some We're getting some weather. 653 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 5: We're supposed to have really cool temperatures, some snow for 654 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 5: gun season, So that's gonna get deer on their feet 655 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 5: and they'll be seen. 656 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 3: Awesome, dude. Well, thanks so much for the report, Jake, 657 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 3: and I hope you have a good rest of your year. 658 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 8: I appreciate it. 659 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 2: Man. Thanks The Element's own Christopher Webb. Chris Webb is 660 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: on the phone. He has been having some success in Texas. Chris, 661 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: what's happening? 662 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 8: Dog? 663 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 7: Oh? 664 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 4: You know, just got one less tag in my pocket. 665 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: That's nice, man. You still got how many you gotta lift? In? 666 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 8: Oh? In Texas? 667 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: Well? You know, when they're their bodies are so small, 668 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: you have to kill quite a few to make up 669 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: the meat. Yeah. Yeah, that's right, but you killed a 670 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: really nice buck. Congratulations man, thank you. It's a funny. 671 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: Tyler tried to claim, you know, something in on it 672 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: because he had talked to you, But then I had 673 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: talked to you even more recently than he had, and 674 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: so we all, you know, if you don't mind, Tyler, 675 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: and I would like to just also be included tiny 676 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 2: bit on the success. 677 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 3: You can be the one that tags it though. 678 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, So tell me about what that deer was doing. 679 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 4: He was, I mean, it was ten minutes after first light. 680 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 4: He was just searching, searching for DOZ and so I 681 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 4: had the camera I have there showed he was there 682 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 4: about an hour earlier, and he was just you know, 683 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 4: we're kind of entering that late stage here in North 684 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 4: Texas where they're trying to find those last few dos, 685 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: and so he was that's. 686 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 7: What he was doing. 687 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 3: Gotcha, what uh, what's the food source in that area? 688 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 4: That field has a couple oaks, and then I I 689 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 4: run corn there and then I also planted a bunch 690 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 4: of oats and stuff. 691 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: So do you think are those oats look good? I mean, 692 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 3: like you think that's a big draw for deer right now? 693 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 4: As they look good? Yes, and as much as I 694 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 4: would like to say yes, it really hasn't been the 695 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 4: case right now. I think there's still so much food 696 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 4: in the woods and they like the corn. But we 697 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,359 Speaker 4: haven't had a hard freeze yet. 698 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 3: So, yeah, what's the weather been like? I mean, we've 699 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: been out of state, but I would assume because I 700 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 3: came back and it was like eighty Is that kind 701 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 3: of what it's been or is it hot yesterday compared 702 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 3: to what it has been the last few days. 703 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 4: It's been mid days in the sixties and then love's 704 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 4: and like the mid to high forties. 705 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 3: That's not too bad. 706 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not bad deering weather, but still that cold 707 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 2: freeze would make a huge difference on hitting that green 708 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 2: food source. Right But you said you had this deer 709 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 2: on camera. Are you relying on camera day to quite 710 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: a bit to make moves right now? 711 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 8: Right now? 712 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 4: No, someme of the year is just getting the woods? 713 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha. So do you feel like most 714 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: of the dos have kind of gone through cycle? Where 715 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: you're at or where are we at in the rut 716 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 2: in Texas right now? 717 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 4: I do think most have I hunt a pretty small 718 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 4: property that doesn't have a lot of dose. So I 719 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,479 Speaker 4: think I know for sure that one of them has 720 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 4: from some chasing and stuff that I've seen and heard about. 721 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 4: So some of the younger ones could come in later. 722 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like the most it's still a 723 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 2: good time of year to do some calling right now. 724 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 4: Where I'm at, I've I've had no success calling, and 725 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 4: I have been continuing to experiment, like with deer insight, 726 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 4: seeing how they react to different stuff. 727 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 3: Are use deer calls or something different. 728 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 4: I rattled out a buck and then he just ran 729 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 4: off as fast as. 730 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weirds when a dobin and buck gets after you, Man, 731 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 2: that's it. 732 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 4: Man. 733 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 3: Oh, Chris, Hey, I'm real glad Kse didn't use your 734 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 3: nickname in this podcast. 735 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, to get rid of it, man, is he Yeah 736 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: he did? 737 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looked like he made a good shot. 738 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 2: I did. 739 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 740 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 3: Was was there a grunt stop involved? 741 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: No? 742 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 3: So the deer was eating something, I would assume. 743 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 4: Uh, he saw a little bit of movement up in 744 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 4: the tree when I drew my bow, and it still 745 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 4: was kind of dark, and he just really couldn't figure 746 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 4: out what I was. And he stopped at about seventeen yards, 747 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 4: quartering to a little bit and I just put it 748 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 4: a little back of the front shoulder and watched him fall. 749 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: Oh. I thought you were going to say, throat patch, 750 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 3: that's the way to go. 751 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: Man. 752 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: Hey, So this deer was in true cruise mode when 753 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: you first saw him. Yes, And do you expect that 754 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 3: to be the case in the next week, that deer 755 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 3: still in cruise mode and looking for dose more than 756 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 3: they're worried about food. 757 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, for Texas for sure. From just historical data and 758 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 4: what I saw this weekend, I expect that to continue. 759 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 2: Gotcha? 760 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 3: Gotcha? 761 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: Can you feel like those pinch points and all are 762 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 2: going to be kind of the thing to focus on? 763 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 3: Are you thinking about. 764 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 2: More like dough betting or field edges or like what's 765 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: the what's the go to right now? 766 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 4: Field edges and dough betting and food are probably the 767 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 4: things I would focus on. 768 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 3: Gotcha? 769 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: Cool? All right, let's give it a ranking, man, on 770 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: a scale of one to ten. What do you think 771 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 2: buck movement's going to be like over the next week 772 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: in Texas? 773 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 4: I think the next week's going to be a nine. 774 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite weeks in Texas. 775 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 2: Man, I don't think I would disagree. I think it's 776 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 2: a really good week in Texas and thankfully you still 777 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: got tags in your pocket, man, so get out there 778 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: and get it after. 779 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 4: I appreciate the repas. Yeah, absolutely anytime. 780 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 2: I was like, the deer is still doing the thing 781 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 2: around the country and it's always a good time to 782 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 2: be in the woods as long as you've got an 783 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: open season. If you want to hear more about Tyler 784 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 2: and I's success in the Midwest hunting some big old 785 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: deer out on the planes, which those two places kind 786 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 2: of sounded different, but they touch. They kind of sound different, 787 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: but they touched, so it's kind of the same place. 788 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: It's on the Element podcast this week. Go check that out. 789 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 3: And then also also our very own Mark Kenyon, who 790 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 3: has graciously allowed us to bring these reports to you. 791 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 3: Mark put out a video on the Media channel a 792 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 3: few days back. It's called Hunting and Fishing road Trip 793 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 3: with Mark Kenyon. And this is back in the days 794 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 3: when he had facial hair. I don't know, does he 795 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 3: have that still. I know he shaped it for a 796 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 3: while there. I don't know, Yeah, well I think he had. 797 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: He pulled some you know, some ideas from Buck Truck 798 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: for this, you know what I mean with facial hair, 799 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 2: being in a truck and all that kind of. 800 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 3: He tried to put a buck boat in that thumbnail 801 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 3: out there. Anyway, Mark's been out doing some cool stuff 802 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 3: and like he usually does, he does some He's one 803 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 3: thing Mark does really good is he like takes a 804 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 3: dream and makes it come to fruition. You know, like 805 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 3: like it's not just like sometimes we're just like a 806 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 3: it's just two dudes going and go him dear hunting. 807 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: You know. 808 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 3: Sometimes Mark's like, Hey, what's the coolest thing I could 809 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 3: possibly do? And I'm gonna go pull this on. 810 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: That's right, I mean Mark. One of Mark's streams is 811 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 2: to go do you hunt with us? And he pulled 812 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 2: it off one time. 813 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 3: Dude, isn't that crazy? Note I think he's been downhill 814 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 3: since then. 815 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 2: Go watch that video if you want. You guys, we're 816 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 2: gonna link all that stuff in the description below. Remember, 817 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 2: I know that we all want to get out and 818 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: hunt deer right now, and honestly, as a hunter, we 819 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: get one track minded a lot of times. But it 820 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 2: is a good time of year to stake a step 821 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 2: back and spend some time with your family, telling me 822 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 2: you love him, telling me thankful for him, and uh, 823 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: get head out the door and go hunting. 824 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 3: Eagle hunting afterwards. 825 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: Make sure you do Thanksgiving the lunches so you can 826 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 2: hunt the afternoon. But no, really, I mean you're gonna 827 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 2: have a here, a lot of marketing this week about 828 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: going to stores and buying stuff and this and that 829 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 2: and the other. And you know, it is fun to 830 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: give gifts, so I'm not saying that, but remember like 831 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 2: what this week is actually about. It's about giving thanks 832 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: for all that we have been given. And remember that 833 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 2: this has been rough, fresh keep it fresh.