1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: Why was it she eating pussy at this episode? The bosses? Anything? 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: But why did we have to go through that or 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: hook up with one of those girls and then get 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: sued ver sexual flossment? 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: Like that's a great PLOTLINEU. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: She's sheen ami no ma ma yo? 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 3: What is your child trauma? 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: I am. 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: Your's going down the floor like. 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 4: Round. 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: Welcome to Like a Virgin, the show where we give 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: yesterday's pop culture today's takes. 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm Rose DomU and I'm Fran Toronto. 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so how do we feel about the eight and 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: of it all? Because I you know, I wasn't sure 16 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: if the show was trying to make it look like 17 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: they were moving too fast or trying to romanticize how 18 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: fast they were moving, But either way, I thought they 19 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: had really good chemistry and it bred is like believable 20 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: to me of two people picking up a relationship for 21 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: the third time and really just speed running it. 22 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent real, right. The realism of the show, 23 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: I think is sometimes strong suit and more often than 24 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: not the thing that makes it really boring, you know, 25 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: like Aiden coming into the fold right now and Carrie 26 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: calling them immediately a wei so to speak. As Sema said, 27 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: She's like, look, you're a we now, which I think 28 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: was a really effective line, like this is a real 29 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: quarrel that real friends go through. And I was like, 30 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: everything about this feels earned. My issue with aid In 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: and other plot loin plot points like him PLoP plot loins. 32 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: Let's say that everything about Aiden and what happened, I'm 33 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: so fried. Can you even hear? You can kind of 34 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: hear in my voice that I I lost it a 35 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: little throat, Yeah, I lost it during all invasion, I 36 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: kind of lout giving. 37 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: I actually think. 38 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: It's even better, Like I think I sound a little swaffed, 39 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: like a little you know what I mean, like just swuffed. 40 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: Well you sound clock here, Oh wow wow now we okay, okay, 41 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 4: But much like what you said, like what you said 42 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 4: was extremely unpredictable, and I just I wish the show 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: were unpredictable. 44 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: Everything about Aiden in the show can be predicted. I 45 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: could write now how he's going to be written off, 46 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: what's going to happen between him and Carry, what the 47 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 2: core tensions are going to be. I can figure out, 48 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: like based on what Miranda is doing at the HRC, 49 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: I can predict what's going to happen there. I feel 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: like Charlotte getting a job back in gallery. Stuff that's 51 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 2: extremely that we could have predicted that Slash probably did 52 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: predict that. Like all of these things are things that 53 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: we we know enough about the characters to actually really 54 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: lay out the plotline. Same thing with Jada is like 55 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: we knew how they were gonna go. 56 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: You predicted the animal rescue shelter. 57 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well that I could never have predicted. 58 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: But that's the thing, is like this is your unpredictable Yeah, 59 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: at least this week, it only existed in service of 60 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: Carrie's plot line, Like there were no solo scenes of 61 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: cha except for that one where they were wandering around 62 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: Carrie's apartment, which I did kind of enjoy that because 63 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: and I almost wanted more of it of Chae being. 64 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: Like who the fuck is this woman? Yeah that I'm 65 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: weird randomly friends with why at her apartment. 66 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: And like Carriere correcting people's like for their pronoun usage, 67 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, Like again, it's like 68 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: a good ally for dummies, like a ward. 69 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: But like I don't I don't understand why that you 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: have such a problem with that though, because like it's 71 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: good that she corrected. 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: It is good. It's just why is this in the scene. So, like, 73 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: if it's in the scene, if the writers have put 74 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: the intent to put this in the scene, that means 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: they are trying to say something about pronoun courtesy and 76 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: how to address people properly in a workplace. And that 77 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. And this show, why would anybody care? As 78 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: a Sex and the City viewer, it has nothing to 79 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 2: do with the Sex and the City. 80 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: Scene about pronouns, you know. 81 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think I think that line actually like 82 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: mostly existed for the joke of Aiden lying into the 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: neighbor and saying they them, which I think actually was 84 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: a funny payoff for that moment. 85 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: I didn't think it was that funny. But if it 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: was just for that joke, like, that's fine. I I 87 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 2: I'm rounding up to a point here about just predictability, 88 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: And for me, it's like predictability and also the kind 89 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: of tea the pedantic nature that I'm talking about, Like 90 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: like in the original Sex and the City, the show 91 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: can be very teaserly, right, Like, the show can be 92 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: very like these things are good and these these things 93 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: are bad, and this is what the show believes like 94 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: the show had core tenants that it kind of ran 95 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: by and believed in. And I think that it's okay 96 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: for a show to believe in something or to be 97 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: a kind of how to blah blah blah for dummies. 98 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: But in the previous iteration of the show, the things 99 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: it was teaching about were sex, intimacy, misogyny, like how 100 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: to make it in a certain kind of workplace as 101 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: a woman, how to be messy while also like sticking 102 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: the landing. Like those are things that I think made 103 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: the show really exciting. And the unpredictable elements were the sex, right, 104 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: I feel like we just don't have the unpredictable sexual 105 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: rockecy grompy kind of elements of in just like that. 106 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: Like when Sima was in bed with that guy and 107 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: he pulled out a penis pump, I was like, this 108 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: is the show, Like I never could have predicted that 109 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: this guy would have pulled out a penis pump, right. 110 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: Even though that's a plotline from like nineteen ninety YXT. 111 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: Yes, yes it's fine, but it's but it still could 112 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: not have been predicted. And that is the show to me, 113 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: That's what the show I should be doing. 114 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: I get what you mean. And I do think the 115 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: moment where this episode succeeded the most and where it 116 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: felt the most like the show I wanted it to be, 117 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: was also the moment that I could have predicted the least, 118 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: which was Carrie asking Miranda that question was big, a 119 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: big mistake? Like that was something I didn't see coming 120 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: and like, should essentially be like the central question of 121 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: this season, Carrie is entire relationship with Aiden and should 122 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: fan outwards to impact the other character, you know, like 123 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: of It is really exciting to have a storyline in 124 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: which this woman whose husband died like gets back together 125 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: with an old love and then thinks like, oh, was 126 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: my whole life a mistake? Should I just have been 127 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: with this guy all along? Like that is a worthwhile 128 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: question for this show to ponder, and I do wish 129 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: it was more interested in that and less interested in, 130 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, Miranda trying to be a good ally or 131 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: whatever the fuck? 132 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't care about big so I 133 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: care less about that question, but I agree it would 134 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: be way more interesting than whatever it is they are 135 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: spending time on. I just think that it's too it's 136 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: still too self helpy, like the self helpy quality to 137 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: the large majority of the plotlines in every episode really 138 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: bums me out. I do still feel like it's very predictable. 139 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: And Carrie reconciling her relationship with Aiden now, the rekindling 140 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: with Now looks like in the context of Big is 141 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: still trodden territory. 142 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: To me. 143 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: It's like in the first scene when she's laying in 144 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: bed with Aiden and she like propped up, she like 145 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: puts her feet on his chest, which is so hot. 146 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: I like wanted to be like I just wanted to 147 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: be like I wanted to Yes, I wanted to be 148 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: like Aaron, put your whole put her whole Fern, Aaron, 149 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: whatever the fuck his name is, Aiden, Aiden, put her 150 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: whole foot in your mouth, in your mouth. I was like, 151 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: if he if he like put his head down, put 152 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: his entire mouth over her foot, but you feet listen. 153 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Sucked. 154 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: Sucked, sucked. And then the rest of the episode is 155 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: Carrie being like, I can't believe Big suck my toes. 156 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: That is an episode of TV. I would be on 157 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: the edge of my seat f I. 158 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: But that's just not the show that I don't care. 159 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: I don't care. And also, you know, you know, her 160 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: feet are gnarly from wearing all those heels as yeah, honey, 161 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: I her toes are jacked if you want to hear 162 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: all of our thoughts. But men just like that go 163 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: to patroon dot com, slash like a virgin and become 164 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: a patron