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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Buck Brief for this episode, Kurt Schlicker
Speaker 2: back in action with all of us. He is a
Speaker 2: twenty plus year veteran of the United States Army. He's
Speaker 2: also an author, writes great books, senior columnist at Townhall
Speaker 2: dot com. And we got some big things to jump
Speaker 2: into today. Kurt, you ready for this action?
Speaker 3: Let's do this thing.
Speaker 2: We have one of the most impressive People keep calling
Speaker 2: it a espionage operator. It's there's a espionage component, it's
Speaker 2: really more of a sabotage and direct action or covert
Speaker 2: action operation by It is believed to be the Israeli
Speaker 2: government against Hesbalo terrorists all over Lebanon, and I believe
Speaker 2: in Desiria as well. What's just your your first your
Speaker 2: first shot at what the heck just happened to these guys?
Speaker 1: Well, it really is the direct action thing. It's like
Speaker 1: people who go James Bond is a famous spi. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's not really a spy, he's kind of an operator guy.
Speaker 1: And what an operation. This was holy caw. You know,
Speaker 1: the Israelis are thinking leaps and bounds ahead, and I
Speaker 1: would love to figure out and unravel how they did this.
Speaker 1: My guess is they found the pager company, create a
Speaker 1: fake subcontractor, bought a bunch of pagers from somebody else,
Speaker 1: fixed them the selves, and then sold them directly to Hezebola.
Speaker 1: I bet you Hesbola bought them from the Israelis. I
Speaker 1: don't think they jumped on a ship and went piece
Speaker 1: by piece changing these things. And it was an impressive job.
Speaker 1: And it's you know, it's one of those things. And
Speaker 1: this is one of my pet peeves, buck, is that
Speaker 1: so many of our American operations are either fully information
Speaker 1: operations or solely kinetic operations that they rarely seem to
Speaker 1: have a strategic component. This one's got at all. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's got the information component, messages enemies and friends alike,
Speaker 1: it's got the kinetic component, and it created damage to
Speaker 1: hesbela strategic capabilities. Hesbela cannot react right now the way
Speaker 1: it should to a an Israeli attack. And I'm sorry
Speaker 1: this wasn't part of a greater Israeli attack. The invasion
Speaker 1: should come, should have come yesterday. While they were in chaos.
Speaker 1: I've been very curious about why the Israelis have not
Speaker 1: treated hesbel as the main threat and sideline Gaza and
Speaker 1: gone and cleaned out Lebanon. That's what I would have
Speaker 1: done on October eighth. I was sealed off Gaza, just
Speaker 1: shot at them, killed as many as I could, But
Speaker 1: my main focus would be Hesbela.
Speaker 3: I'd wipe that out time, come out and clean out Gaza.
Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think Hezbla in
Speaker 2: terms of reaction to this now? First of all, they've
Speaker 2: got to be paranoid as all heck, and I think
Speaker 2: rightly so, because it wasn't just the beepers, right, it
Speaker 2: was beepers and now the radios. So they got right
Speaker 2: into their supply chain. And it's not like they've been
Speaker 2: using beepers and radios for all that long. They realize
Speaker 2: how good the Israelis are at cell phone tracking, so
Speaker 2: they had to get off the cell net entirely for
Speaker 2: their operatives. And then the Israelis were like, you can run,
Speaker 2: but you can't hide with your little walkie talkies and
Speaker 2: your pagers, so and pagers. You know, it's not the
Speaker 2: nineties anymore. Drug dealers and doctors, like, that's not even
Speaker 2: a thing. Really, I don't even know anyone uses pagers.
Speaker 2: But Israel figured this out and pulled off a pretty incredible,
Speaker 2: incredible operation. But do you think HESBELA does anything major
Speaker 2: in response or are they too shell shocked by this
Speaker 2: situation to really do much of anything.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they can do at this point.
Speaker 1: They've got to assume other coms are compromise, that their
Speaker 1: entire structure is compromised, whether directly or indirectly. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, Akhmed maybe giving information to somebody
Speaker 1: who he thinks is I don't know, a Saudi or
Speaker 1: maybe an Iranian. The guy's really Israeli. They don't know.
Speaker 1: The Israelis have really got their number. They are, I mean,
Speaker 1: at least for twenty four to forty eight hours. They
Speaker 1: are combat ineffective. Essentially, they can fire a rocket or two,
Speaker 1: but they're not a coherent force. And frankly, I think
Speaker 1: the Israeli should have taken advantage of that by sending
Speaker 1: you know, five divisions up and killing everybody in their
Speaker 1: path who's part of ESBLA. I do want to point out,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the scumbag loser leftists in America
Speaker 1: whining like a little bitches about blowing the testicles and
Speaker 1: faces off of as bull of guys has ball a
Speaker 1: murder two hundred and forty one Americans, primarily Marines, at
Speaker 1: the Marine barracks in at the Beayirut Airport in October
Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty three, something that we shamefully have never
Speaker 1: gotten revenge for. So if you want to, if you
Speaker 1: have a compassion and empathy for these semi human scumbacks,
Speaker 1: you're an anti American trader, and I've got something you
Speaker 1: can kiss. If I was a hespull Of guy, it
Speaker 1: would have been blown off.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think people forget all too quickly on the
Speaker 2: left in this country, or rather they probably don't know,
Speaker 2: and if they did know, they don't care. Hesbel just
Speaker 2: blew up twelve kids on a soccer field a few
Speaker 2: weeks ago. Twelve Israeli kids just blew them up with
Speaker 2: artillery rounds. They knew exactly what they're doing. They don't.
Speaker 2: When I say they don't care, that's not even they're happy.
Speaker 2: And this is one of the key differences I think
Speaker 2: in the conflict is when Israel kills civilians there's an investigation.
Speaker 2: It's regrettable, and it's clearly not the intent of the action,
Speaker 2: saying it doesn't happen. I'm it's not a tragedy, but
Speaker 2: it's not the intent of the action, and there is
Speaker 2: there are realistic efforts to try to curb that damage.
Speaker 2: That happens in any war. It's a war that's being
Speaker 2: forced on these really people. If Hamas could kill a
Speaker 2: thousand Israeli toddlers tomorrow, not only would they do it,
Speaker 2: they would celebrate it, they would pin awards on the
Speaker 2: chests of the of the martyrs and all this other craziness.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a death cult, man. I mean,
Speaker 2: Hamas is a death cult. So is Hesbela.
Speaker 1: Well it is, and I you know, I'm getting tired
Speaker 1: of leftist Americans attempting to leverage our morality against us.
Speaker 1: I am under no moral obligation to care more about
Speaker 1: Hezbola or Hamas's children than Hesbela and Hamas are.
Speaker 3: And I don't.
Speaker 1: If you don't want your kids to get killed, don't
Speaker 1: start wars. If you'd want to start wars, don't hang
Speaker 1: around your kids. But you don't get a free pass.
Speaker 1: You start a war. You're gonna die, and maybe the
Speaker 1: people around you are going to die. Do with that
Speaker 1: information as you will, but his burial is going to
Speaker 1: kill you. And I only wish but that the United
Speaker 1: States had the UH, both the moral courage and the
Speaker 1: technical savvy to do things like this. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know you worked for the CIA, and he had a
Speaker 1: positive experience. Mine was mostly dealing with semi coherent drunks.
Speaker 1: But I don't think our CIA could pull some like
Speaker 1: this off.
Speaker 2: I just you know, I I wouldn't say I had
Speaker 2: a I wouldn't say I had a negative experience the CI.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I had a positive experience either, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean experience, I sort of I had
Speaker 2: an experience. I sort of did my thing, and I
Speaker 2: was like, I'm done here. Honestly. One of the big problems,
Speaker 2: you know, I was just talking to our mutual Fred
Speaker 2: ned Ryan, who's got a book out about the DC
Speaker 2: Leviathan right, I'll have you know net on the which if.
Speaker 1: I read the first draft of by the way.
Speaker 2: Gave them some ideas, and I I was just thinking
Speaker 2: about how, you know the problem is, when I was
Speaker 2: in the CIA, there were super impressive people who worked
Speaker 2: at the CIA when I was there, they basically all left.
Speaker 2: All of them, Yes, none of them stayed, yes, so,
Speaker 2: and some of them lasted longer than me. I was
Speaker 2: at that like six year mark. Some of them like,
Speaker 2: you know, five or six years. Some of the five
Speaker 2: to seven is when a lot get out. But then
Speaker 2: the number of high performers who get out before year
Speaker 2: ten is like staggering, because they're like, this is I'm
Speaker 2: sick of the bull crap. I don't make enough money
Speaker 2: to make this worth my time. And it's just a
Speaker 2: giant bureaucracy that doesn't want to do anything that's worthwhile.
Speaker 2: And that's the truth of most of unfortunately, the intelligence
Speaker 2: and National security complex. That's just reality.
Speaker 1: Yep. In the military, the military's a complete disaster. It's
Speaker 1: completely demoralized, you know, whether it's the DEI stuff, which
Speaker 1: is having a huge effect, whether it's the strategic lack
Speaker 1: of vision, or whether it's just the lack of character
Speaker 1: and the senior officer core. Yeah, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: how many of these guys are getting real leaved, how
Speaker 1: many of these guys are getting indicted, you know, the
Speaker 1: fat Leonard thing, for God's sake, and and how many people,
Speaker 1: how many of them are never seriously getting punished. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know the old the old saws. If you're an
Speaker 1: e for and you lose your rifle, you know, you
Speaker 1: get the Riot Act. If you're a general and you
Speaker 1: lose a war, you get another star. Yeah, and sadly
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 2: That's true in this within the CIA too. You know,
Speaker 2: if you if you're a little nobody and you bring
Speaker 2: your cell phone into the building, they act like they've
Speaker 2: just uncovered, you know, a Soviet mole of twenty years
Speaker 2: or something. But if you do something catastrophically stupid that
Speaker 2: results in real like operational losses are broad or something,
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, it was a committee decision, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, everybody was in on this one, and
Speaker 2: nobody's really you know what I mean, nobody's really responding.
Speaker 2: That's that's unfortunately the way that these bureaucracies function. Uh,
Speaker 2: they are. I've said this before and and I think
Speaker 2: it's important to remind people of this. It's not that
Speaker 2: they don't uh engender support excellence, they're actually suspicious of it,
Speaker 2: Like excellence is a cause for suspicion, Like what why
Speaker 2: are you doing more than the other people in this
Speaker 2: office in a way that actually helps the mission, Like
Speaker 2: why are you going above and beyond some of your
Speaker 2: superiors with better ideas or better like excellence is crushed
Speaker 2: under the foot of the giant Leviathan. That's the whole point.
Speaker 1: Well that that's because mediocre people, the kind of people
Speaker 1: who you know want to you know, socialize the blame.
Speaker 1: It's it's literally the fighter Man meme where you have
Speaker 1: five different Spider Mans pointing each other.
Speaker 3: He's the guy who's pud it up.
Speaker 2: And I can tell you I know the people I
Speaker 2: know who stayed in the age like stayed I should
Speaker 2: just say in the national security more broadly, because some
Speaker 2: of them moved around, you know, they go to different places.
Speaker 2: The biggest ass kissers from when I was like a
Speaker 2: young guy with that sort of cadre, now that I
Speaker 2: see who's still because some of them have gotten jobs.
Speaker 2: You know, they're the senior person at this agency, senior
Speaker 2: person at that agency. Like they move around. The ass
Speaker 2: kissers are the ones who got ahead and the talented people.
Speaker 2: I know this sounds self serving because I'm one of them,
Speaker 2: but whatever, I mean, you know, I did pretty well
Speaker 2: for myself. Leaving the agency. The talented people all left.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: It's like the sales manager who files the high fire
Speaker 1: fires his highest performing salesman because the guy's making more
Speaker 1: money on commissions.
Speaker 3: Send the sales managers.
Speaker 2: Mate, Yeah, there's a lot of that. That's the got
Speaker 2: I was told told explicitly by a senior agency person.
Speaker 2: And he wasn't trying he was trying to help me.
Speaker 2: He was trying to help me. He wasn't trying to know.
Speaker 2: He said, you have to understand that your job every
Speaker 2: day is to make your immediate superior look good in
Speaker 2: this place. That was what he told me. I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought my job was like help
Speaker 2: track and tag in bag al Qaeda terrorists. Like That's
Speaker 2: what I thought I was signing up for, but apparently not.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, if you know, if you have an
Speaker 1: effective team and you're going to make the leadership's intent successful, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I get that, but that's not what we're saying.
Speaker 2: Let's come back in.
Speaker 1: I remember this because I remember as a lieutenant. It's
Speaker 1: you know, Lieutenant s Flaker, it's not what you do,
Speaker 1: it's how you look.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, this is why I have another lebel.
Speaker 2: I mean, we should do like a whole, like three
Speaker 2: hour sit down on this thing, just like tear it.
Speaker 2: In the bureaucracy, people always say to me, how did
Speaker 2: you know that Petreus was actually kind of a dirt bag?
Speaker 2: Like how did you know that fill in the blank
Speaker 2: general was not some like, you know, reincarnation of Cincinnatus
Speaker 2: and like Maximus from Gladiator or something like how do
Speaker 2: you know? And I'm like, because the media liked him.
Speaker 2: If the media likes him, it's because he has cultivated
Speaker 2: a persona in the media of the scholar general who
Speaker 2: like blah blah blah, and that's it's like they're running
Speaker 2: a little personal pr campaign. They're politicians in a uniform,
Speaker 2: all this all the time. That's why when Petreus got caught,
Speaker 2: you know, under the desk with his biographer and all
Speaker 2: that stuff, I was like, yeah, man, no surprise. As
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Speaker 1: You know? I saw Erasmus and Poll today. That's some
Speaker 1: like twenty three percent of Democrats said you know, I'd
Speaker 1: be better if Trump was killed, and like another thirty
Speaker 1: percent said, you know, I'm not really sure. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: really hard to have a funk I would expect in
Speaker 1: a normal society. You've got a fringe of five to
Speaker 1: ten percent weirdos. Right, Yeah, when you have a quarter
Speaker 1: of Democrats going I want Trump to be killed, you know,
Speaker 1: a quarter of a major party, and that's the ones
Speaker 1: who admit it, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Another quarter, think about telling somebody, Think about telling a
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Speaker 2: you're someone asked this question like yo, I mean like
Speaker 2: there's something deranged about these Democrats?
Speaker 1: Why yes, I feel like exposing myself to children at
Speaker 1: the park, like you asked, I mean, what kind of degenerate?
Speaker 1: First of all, what kind of degenerate feels that way?
Speaker 1: It's second of all, what kind of degenerate tells people
Speaker 1: that but they're proud of it?
Speaker 2: Just to be clear, that was Kurt's impression. That was
Speaker 2: Kurt's impression of a Kamala Walls voter there. That was
Speaker 2: that was you guess Kurt know that you probably saw
Speaker 2: in DC at some like March for LGBTQ, whatever they got,
Speaker 2: like the trans trans guy with the fake boobs dancing
Speaker 2: in front of little kids, the whole thing, like this
Speaker 2: is a broad daylight in Washington, d C O a lot. Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Look, I I I think there's a backlash coming against weirdos.
Speaker 3: I mean, we had a.
Speaker 1: Starting in like the sixties, seventies and continuing on, we
Speaker 1: were all kind of like live and let live as
Speaker 1: long as it doesn't hurt anybody else. And that was
Speaker 1: fine until we live and let live to the part
Speaker 1: where they tried to like, you know, molest our kids.
Speaker 1: And now I'm not so much about living and let living.
Speaker 1: I'm more like, no, no.
Speaker 3: I don't really want weirdos.
Speaker 1: So you're not going to you know, when I get power,
Speaker 1: you're not going to have your pervert brade.
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Speaker 2: All right, Kurt, We've got you. I got a few
Speaker 2: minutes here with you on Kamala Harris's campaign. I actually
Speaker 2: I don't want to jinx anything, but I don't really
Speaker 2: believe in that kind of stuff. I think. I think
Speaker 2: Kamala is it's in her campaign is in terminal decline.
Speaker 2: I don't think they can pull the I think the
Speaker 2: plane has lost both engines and is heading to the
Speaker 2: base of a mountain. That's how I feel. What do
Speaker 2: you think.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think there's only downhill from here.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be another debate, so I
Speaker 1: don't see another event which has the real opportunity for
Speaker 1: her to change things in a major way. The Trump
Speaker 1: people aren't going anywhere. It's the undecided who are looking
Speaker 1: at her, going okay, well, let's see what she's about.
Speaker 1: And the more they find out about her, the less
Speaker 1: people like her. Now, if she thought that people would
Speaker 1: flock to her by being exposed to her, she would
Speaker 1: be doing as many interviews as jd Vance at dal
Speaker 1: Trump are. She realizes that she is a normal person, repellent. Okay,
Speaker 1: every time she gets exposed to normal people, they dislike her.
Speaker 1: She only has she can only go down from here,
Speaker 1: And I mean, you look at what happened recently with
Speaker 1: the Teamsters, and the Teamsters pulled their own people, and
Speaker 1: so I'm like, fifty eight percent said, oh yeah, we're
Speaker 1: behind Trump, fifty eight percent of Teamster union members. Of course,
Speaker 1: the union goes, well, you know, it's kind of mixed
Speaker 1: among our people. We can't really, we really can't endorse anybody.
Speaker 1: But to have that giant white working class group so
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly in favor of Trump, I think is a huge message.
Speaker 1: And it's not just white working class. It's Hispanic working class,
Speaker 1: it's Black working class. It's people who work for a
Speaker 1: living and are tired of being screwed over, like the
Speaker 1: residents of Springfield and told shut up, you're a racist
Speaker 1: if you complain about how you're getting the short end
Speaker 1: of the stick. I think they're tired of it. I
Speaker 1: think Donald Trump's secret of success is he's always listened
Speaker 1: to people who've been told to shut up and just
Speaker 1: take whatever they're handed. And Kamala Harris is the quintessential
Speaker 1: person telling them to shut up and take whatever you're
Speaker 1: being handed.
Speaker 2: Have you seen all these all these clips where they've
Speaker 2: then I sort of string them together. Any question about
Speaker 2: the economy, She starts with this, I grew up in
Speaker 2: a middle class family, Like this is the this is
Speaker 2: the the the you know, the branding, the pr machinery
Speaker 2: that they've got for is I see her. I'm like,
Speaker 2: first of all, she lives, from what I understand, in
Speaker 2: like a five or six million dollar mansion in Brentwood
Speaker 2: right now, Okay, and has for a long time this
Speaker 2: notion that she grew up in a middle class family.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's the daughter of two probably unfirable with
Speaker 2: tenure professors who you know, had a combined household income
Speaker 2: of six figures. Like, she lit a very comfortable life,
Speaker 2: by the way, I have no beef with that at all.
Speaker 2: Like that's great. You know, I think comfortable life is great.
Speaker 2: That's my point is merely like what does that have
Speaker 2: to do with anything? You know, It's not like meanwhile,
Speaker 2: jd Vance grows up in like a dysfunctional household. There's
Speaker 2: no money, there's an alcohol abuse, he's got friends dying
Speaker 2: from fental and they're mocking him because he's done well
Speaker 2: as an adult. Like I just feel like this, there's
Speaker 2: no sense, there's no sense of reality with these people.
Speaker 1: Well, it's because of their deep contempt for people she
Speaker 1: thinks that year, says, I grew up in a middle
Speaker 1: class home like a mantra. All the idiot roobs out
Speaker 1: there will flock to her, and I think they're tired
Speaker 1: of it. And I mean, you look at a guy
Speaker 1: like JD, and boy, heyd, how about that guy? I mean,
Speaker 1: he has turned out great.
Speaker 2: I was a believer all along. Early on, I said
Speaker 2: JD was going to be the vice president in January
Speaker 2: of this year. Okay, I was like, it's going to
Speaker 2: be Jad.
Speaker 3: He's been fantastic. He gets out there.
Speaker 1: We have a whole generation of guys, national security guys,
Speaker 1: whether military or other, who are also smart on their feet,
Speaker 1: and who have who've been built up not only the
Speaker 1: crucible of national service, which makes you harder, but the
Speaker 1: crucible of defending your ideas. I mean, to be a
Speaker 1: normal American. I don't think he was a hardcore conservative
Speaker 1: at Yale, but to be a normal American at Yale
Speaker 1: and to stand up against the kind of communist nonsense
Speaker 1: and Tom Cotton at Harvard, for instance, that makes you tougher.
Speaker 1: And I think I think a lot of these new
Speaker 1: conservatives are much tougher, much harder to pin down, much
Speaker 1: harder to mischaracterize and much more willing to confront the
Speaker 1: regime media. He's been sensational.
Speaker 3: I love this guy.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, he's a thinker. There's guests to
Speaker 1: what he's saying. He's start repeating slogans. He's thought this
Speaker 1: stuff through and lived through a lot of it. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very happy, and I think, uh, I think
Speaker 1: he's the huge asset to the ticket. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna wash wipe the floor with Tim Walt's not that
Speaker 1: anybody's gonna really care about vice presidential debate unless Walt
Speaker 1: says something insane. But you know, to get back to
Speaker 1: the main point, I don't see how Kamala goes up
Speaker 1: from here. I see she can only go down, and
Speaker 1: as she's by the way she's kept herself from exposure.
Speaker 1: Exposing Kamala Harris to normal people makes normal people dislike her.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, which is why every Democrat is hiding her
Speaker 2: and doing everything they can to cover for her, because otherwise, well,
Speaker 2: it's the it's the absolute peak of the election cycle.
Speaker 2: You'd want to have her out there as much as possible,
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Speaker 1: attack exploiting our open border would look like. It is
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Speaker 1: It's a bunch of stories of a bunch of characters,
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Speaker 1: and I'm very happy with it. You should read it
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Speaker 3: I'm carrying it all the time.
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Speaker 2: to see you, man, Thanks so much.
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me