1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: back to the show, folks. This is Ridiculous History. My 3 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: name is Ben, my name is Nolan. It's not ridiculous Historians, 4 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: It's not. That's our Facebook group. But hey, look at us. 5 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: We're getting the plug in. Early joined the Facebook group. 6 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: If you like the show, we always save it for 7 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: the end. Maybe we'll see a giant spike in activity, 8 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: of flurry of activity on our Facebook group, a cavalcade 9 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: of content. Uh. Speaking of cavalcades of awesomeness, we want 10 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: to give a shout out to our super producer, Casey Pegram. 11 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: There he is, Look at him. Look at our boy, Casey, 12 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: glint in his eye as always. Oh, we should mention 13 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: that today's episode is pretty fascinating to us. We started 14 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: talking with some friends of ours off air about the 15 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: most petty or strangest flexes in human history. Ben, you're 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: gonna have to you're gonna have to hit me to 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: this lingo here? What what is a flex? Ah? Well, 18 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: who better to explain that than our friends that we 19 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: actually brought on the air for the episode today. Uh. 20 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: The host of one of our favorite podcast, the Daily 21 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: Zeitgeist Yeah, we have Miles and Jack from the Daily 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: Zeitgeist joining us as we speak. Gentlemen. What's up guys, Jack? 23 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: How are you so? So? These guys, Uh, Miles and 24 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: Jack are the anchors of our Los Angeles operation. They 25 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: do a lot of comedy. They have this amazing political 26 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: comedy show that they do every day of the week. Uh. 27 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: And they're kind of the the cooler versions of us. So, 28 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: can you guys explain what a flex is? Um? Yes, flex? Uh. 29 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: If we go strictly by the Urban Dictionary, definition would 30 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: be a verb in which someone would show off or 31 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: gloat in a boastful display. Wow. That was very official, Miles, 32 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yeah, so that's what a flexes. 33 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: How is a flex different than a stunt? Um? I 34 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: mean it's kind of the same thing. Stunt, you're still 35 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: kind of showing out as you will, um. But sometimes 36 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: a flex, you know, it's really about, like you know, 37 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: I think, coming from flexing your muscles, like showing how 38 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: strong you are, showing off that way. I feel like 39 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: a flex can come from within maybe where a stunt 40 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: can be. A stunt would be more like keep showing 41 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: off things. I don't know. You nailed it you, thank 42 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: you so much. But yeah, I mean essentially it's all 43 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: the same thing. It's just sort of you know, And 44 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: then the gave way to the weird flex phenomenon, which 45 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: are just sort of like, uh, you know, just re 46 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,399 Speaker 1: contextualizing people's quotes or things to be boastful moments. But yeah, 47 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: it's really just about showing off, really or yeah, unnecessarily 48 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: showing your power or wealth or something like that. I 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: love weird flex because it has taken over for people 50 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: used to say anytime they wanted to make fun of 51 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: someone for bragging about something weird, they'd be like humble 52 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: bragg and they just didn't know what humble brag meant. 53 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: I think they misunderstood. So weird flex is actually an 54 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: accurate way to make fun of somebody for bragging about 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: something weird, and we're we're happier here weird flex, like, 56 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: for example, setting the record for eating the largest amount 57 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: of cheese in twenty four hours, that's a weird flex. 58 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: That is a weird flex. Yeah, and then bragging about 59 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: it and then bragging about it. Well, and since this 60 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: is a ridiculous history, today we're talking about weird historical flexes. 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Ben you brought this one to the table. Um, so 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: I think maybe you should start Sure, Yeah, yeah, we're 63 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: going to explore not all of but some of the 64 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: weirdest flexes and maybe the most petty power moves throughout 65 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: this ridiculous thing that we call human history. So I'm 66 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: gonna lay one out just to set the tone here. 67 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: We've all heard of garden gnomes, right, which is already 68 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: a weird flex in and of itself. Yeah, it's a 69 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: it's a yes, it's a strange choice landscaping. Fact that 70 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: I have the second largest collection of garden gnomes on 71 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: the East side of Los Angeles. I'm not going to 72 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: brag about that that because that would be a weird flex, right, 73 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: just leave it out there. But I know East l 74 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: A Is pretty competitive and cutthroat in that regard, right. Yeah. Man, 75 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: it's taking a lot of hard work, and I just 76 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: get thanks to my parents for you know, raising me 77 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: the way they did. And yeah, but go on with 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean, Jessica Sable is not recovered 79 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: since you retook the throne. Second second, yea garden O Prince, 80 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: the garden ome King. I'm never going to be at him. 81 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: Vice garden Ome President. Yes, so this should be this 82 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: should be close to you personally, because it turns out 83 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: that there is an historical precedent in the creation of 84 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: this sort of garden gnome. Uh, well, I guess we 85 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: can call it an industry now, at least in Los 86 00:04:54,120 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: Angeles culture culture that I'm culture. So there was this 87 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: moment primarily during the eighteenth century when wealthy landowners in 88 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: Britain said, you know, how can I show my fellow 89 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: landed aristocrats that I am somehow better than them, you know, 90 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: without actually doing something to improve myself. And they decided 91 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: that they would resurrect an old practice of paying someone 92 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: to be a professional hermit and ornamental hermit in their garden. 93 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: And these guys had a really weird gig. First off, 94 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: they were expected to in some cases not bathe, not 95 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 1: talk to anyone for seven years. Uh. They had to 96 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: address like quote, a druid. But the problem was, these 97 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: wealthy landowners had no clue what a druid actually looked like. 98 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: So they looked more like the modern version of trained kids, 99 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: you know, minus the stick and poke face tattoos. And 100 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: the weird thing about it was it caught on. There's 101 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: a great book called the hermit in the garden from 102 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: imperial room to ornamental gnome. Like the rhyme. There the tracy, 103 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: the traces the evolution of this from back in the 104 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: fifteenth century when Francis of Paula was one of the 105 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: first paid hermits in a cave on his own dad's estate. 106 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: So how's that for nepotism. Let me unpack this just briefly. 107 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that I'm getting the 108 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: right picture for it. So they're paying like smelly hobo 109 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: types to hang around in their yard, yes, yep. And 110 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: in some cases, and they have their own special kind 111 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: of like hermit habitats. You know how if you have 112 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: sort of like if you have fish, there's the fake 113 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: ubiquitous sand castle that the fish quote unquote lives in 114 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: a little diver helmet or whatever. They had a small yes, 115 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: that has bubbles to come out us with the chest 116 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: because otherwise, what the hell are you doing with this fish? 117 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: So they I'm glad you guys have my back on this. 118 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: So they have these different tiers of hermitage. Some of 119 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: them are expected to come out when visitors walk by 120 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: and then do things that you know, we would probably 121 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: find offensive. In the modern day, like come up and 122 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: recite spoken word without an invitation or solicitation. There's literally 123 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: a dude that hangs out outside my neighborhood bar that 124 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: does that. Every time I walk past him, and he 125 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: thinks that I don't remember that I've already heard the 126 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: one poem that he has. He's talking about ticket that's 127 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: the guy, yeah, and it's like he's like, I got 128 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: a new one. I'm like, bro, it's not a new one. 129 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: I've heard. H literally had to memorized at this point, 130 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: and I'm not giving you a dollar at this point. 131 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: I can do his ad libs to flex on him. 132 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: You should come up to him and say I have 133 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: a poem for you, and tell him his own poem 134 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: to his face. Wow. He might even say I love that. 135 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: I've never heard that before. That's also true. So the 136 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: thing that they were attempting to do with this was 137 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: to recreate a sort of idealized time in history that 138 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: never actually existed. The Hermits eventually became uh the inspiration 139 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: for the gnome sculptures that were so uh prominent and 140 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: prevalent today in Los Angeles. But the concept of these 141 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: being a normal thing in ancient Roman villas and so on. 142 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: Isn't that accurate? Like so many eighteenth century British beliefs, 143 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: it was based on complete malarkey. It never actually happened 144 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: in a widespread fashion in ancient civilizations, but that didn't 145 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: stop people. The facts will never stop you from having 146 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: a good time with a weird flex uh. The last thing. 147 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: The most famous of the ornamental hermits is a guy 148 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: named John Big with two g's. It's nice surname, the 149 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: Denton Hermit. He was not himself a garden hermit, but 150 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: in a lot of the publications of the time, he 151 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: was called like the o g hermit, and they explore, 152 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: like how you're supposed to interact with these people. You 153 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: walk up to them, even if you're the owner of 154 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: this garden. You walk up to the hermit's hideout or 155 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: his hidie hole, or his treasure chest, and you know 156 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: his equivalent of his treasure chest and his castle, and 157 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: then you ring a bell or you knock, or you 158 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: say a phrase, and then the hermit comes out. And 159 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: depending upon uh what the owners want from this guy, 160 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: they either, of course uh start speaking in weird uh 161 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: riddles or spoken word, or they pretend not to see 162 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: you and maybe silently pray to themselves or work on 163 00:09:55,320 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: some like kid you not arrangement of shells in a 164 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: way that is supposed to look purposeful and super deep. 165 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: As you can tell, Yeah, as you can tell, this 166 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: is a short lived trend. It died out in the 167 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: early nineteen century or so when weirder flexes rose. The 168 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: thing was, we can only imagine that this stuff was 169 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: really a status symbol when not many people were doing it. 170 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: So when the ornamental hermit became closer to being commonplace, 171 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: it's social value decreased because people were like, oh, you've 172 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta hermit. You said, there was a hermit 173 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: bubble basically, yeah, people started getting cheap, knockoff garden hermits. 174 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: Then the whole thing just went. I mean, the hermit 175 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: bubble really heard a lot of people. I remember someone 176 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: I dated their family, they were they were upside down. 177 00:10:54,960 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: Yet I feel like this is really a testament to 178 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: how like this is one of those pastimes from history 179 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: that really is a testament to how boring life used 180 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: to be. Like that that people would just go and 181 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: see a guy who didn't want you to interact with 182 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: him and like have play like a weird like troll 183 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: password game with them, and it was yeah, it's just 184 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: and it's also you know, the the economy was not 185 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: overly diverse back in the day, so you know, you 186 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: needed to create work for your weird son who didn't 187 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: never wanted to leave the house. And so it sounds 188 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: like that kind of got it started, was just having 189 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: a kid at home who you couldn't get off the couch, 190 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: and so you're like, what if we dressed him in 191 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: weird clothes and made him live under a rock in 192 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: the backyard, and then luckily that gave rise to art schools. Ornamentally, 193 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: I feel like there's another or analog here, you guys, 194 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: in the in the whole Hollywood universe where you have 195 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: these glitzy parties where people are kind of paid to 196 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: just wander around dressed in costumes, whatever the theme is. 197 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: I could see this being brought back for some sort 198 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: of weird flex Hollywood party where you just have these 199 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: oddly dressed kind of like court jester types just wandering 200 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: around and reciting riddles to people. How do you guys 201 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: feel about this? I mean, I think that makes sense. 202 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's we always it's always a flex even 203 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: just to hire someone to do something that doesn't even 204 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: seem like a job, and you're like, yeah, I'm paying 205 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: somebody to do that. That's because that's where my wealth 206 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: is act and it's the same thing reminds me of 207 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: even like at bar Mitzvah's like pump up dancers that 208 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: you hire for that. It's like they're just lightening up 209 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: the mood. Oh, I don't know them, but I hired 210 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: them because I can. My social life currently is mostly 211 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: mostly involved going to two to three year old birthday parties. Uh, 212 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: not involving my kids at all, just because that's what 213 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm into these days. But they there's always like a 214 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Disney princess or something, some some actor who came to 215 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: Hollywood to chase their dreams who was uh playing usually 216 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: at Elsa. Although I actually saw the bubble burst on 217 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: Elsa in the past couple of weeks, people just stopped 218 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: really caring about Elsa. Uh, and she was literally chasing 219 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: the kids around because nobody would talk to her because 220 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, else is so three years yea. Yeah, 221 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: She's like, I have to do something. This is too awkward. 222 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: Kids are so cruel. Yeah, kids are very cruel. So 223 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: it's not that different. I guess it's just that it's 224 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: almost like creating, turning a little part of your garden 225 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: into a historical reenactment town, which we also have a 226 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: right right. Yeah, a bit of a step up from 227 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: traditional slavery. It's like, Hi, I'll clothe you and like 228 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: and you get to kind of just beat you or 229 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: do some weird Okay, I'll be back here on food 230 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: and a couple of shuckles. Yeah, where they just kind 231 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: of paid or paid in food and the shelter, or 232 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: they had room and board. They received a stipend. The 233 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: usual contract was for seven years. The stipend though, you know, 234 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: whenever somebody says stipend instead of a salary, you know, 235 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: it's not a huge chunk of scratch. But the last 236 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: thing that was fascinating about this to me, uh, and 237 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: a very very uh damning comment on society at the time, 238 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: is that Britain at the time was full of incredibly destitute, 239 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: impoverished or homeless people. So of course someone would end 240 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: up taking this job. And it's not surprising if someone's 241 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: like telling their kids, all right, goodbye, you know, little 242 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: Darren or whatever, Dad has to go off and uh, 243 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: pretend to be homeless mystic for seven years so that 244 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: we can get your leg fixed. You think his children 245 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: are allowed to visit Little Tim? No, No, he don't 246 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: have family, no contact, there's a no contact. Yeah, that 247 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: is a very very weird flex. Just societally, I would 248 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: say that's a weird flex, but I think it's kind 249 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: of It could come back around right where even in 250 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: this country, you have we have growing populations of just 251 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: the destitute or people who are not faring well in 252 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: the economy, and eventually people at the very top could 253 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, I hired these five people to 254 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: do paw patrol for my kids for three years, right 255 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: right exactly. But that is that is my uh that 256 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: that is my first entrigue into our weird flex show. 257 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: And it sounds like we can we can all agree, 258 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: Oh maybe that's what we can do at the end, 259 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: we can we can vote on whether or not that's 260 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: a weird flex. I think it is, obviously, I think 261 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: it is too. And another thing that I think is 262 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: I think this might have enough weird flex ammunition to 263 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: make two weird flex episodes. This this alone, Yes, this alone. 264 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm just planning just putting that out there right now, 265 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: fingers crossed. I could be proven wrong, but I would 266 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: like to throw it to our guests. You talk amongst 267 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: yourselves who would like to go next. I could go 268 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: um by the way, if you guys are George Saunders fans. 269 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: He's a fiction writer, and he has a short story 270 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: I think in tenth of Decembers, like sort of a 271 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: weird futuristic version of this um that, where it's like 272 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: they there are people who are paid to re enact 273 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: uh lynchings in people's gardens in the near future in 274 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: the American South End. It's like this weird class consciousness 275 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: thing that uh that I don't know goes off the rails, 276 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: but it's very, very creepy and interesting story that makes 277 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: me think he knew about this phenomenon when when he 278 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: was writing it. Uh. So, I want to talk to 279 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: you guys about a time when the human species was 280 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: still a little bit insecure about our place on top 281 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: of the food chain. UM. And this is back when 282 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: Charles Darwin was kicking around and you know, he was 283 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: actually discovering that we weren't all that different from our 284 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: animal uh brethren, and that you know, we were all 285 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: part of the same evolutionary stu as a lot of animals. 286 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: A thing that a lot of people don't know about 287 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 1: Darwin though, is that he basically ate every animal that 288 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: he ever documented. Um like that that was his I 289 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: and it's I mean, he kind of viewed it as 290 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: part of the scientific process. But it seems to go 291 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: deeper than that, because even when he was a kid 292 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: at Cambridge, UM, you know Harvard, if you've seen the 293 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: social network, you know that they have instead of like 294 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: sorority and fraternity houses, they have like dining clubs and uh. 295 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: At Cambridge they had something similar. But Darwin started something 296 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: called the Glutton Club, which was a group of students 297 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: devoted to devouring quote, birds and beasts which were before 298 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: unknown to human palate. They toasted hawk, uh, they ate 299 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: a heron like waiting bird called a bit turn uh. 300 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: And they were dissolved after trying to eat a brown owl, 301 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: which you're not supposed to eat those. Darwin said the 302 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: taste was indescribable. Uh. So that that might seem strange 303 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: for a guy who then went on to devote his 304 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: life to, you know, documenting animals in that habitat, Does 305 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: it seem strange. He might just have a thing. Yeah, 306 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: so well so, I I kind of always associated him 307 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: with you know, science and biology and you know, putting 308 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: them putting humans in there in their place on the uh, 309 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, in in natural history. But he was more 310 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: about putting us in our place, but then also reminding 311 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: every animal he encountered, uh, that we could still eat 312 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: them if we wanted to. Because during the course of 313 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: his you know, journeys on the Beagle, he ate puma, uh, 314 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: he ate iguanas, armadillo's um. He not only eight giant tortoises, uh, 315 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: he ate like so many of the giant giant tortoises. 316 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: He documented that there weren't any left when he got 317 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: back to England. He had eaten like twenty something of them. Uh. 318 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: And he tried He also tried drinking their bladder contents. 319 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: He said the fluid was quite limpid, you know, silently 320 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: bitter taste. You gotta drink bladder contents for sciencewhereus on 321 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: my license plate? Uh. This is incredible because I think 322 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: of him and this is obviously miss guy. But I've 323 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: always thought of Darwin as like a conservationist. But that's 324 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: never even right. He was pitched as honestly, I mean 325 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: he was a documentary and he you know, wrote down 326 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: detailed notes about all these things, but he wasn't exactly 327 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: out there to like save the wildlife. And this just 328 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: pushes that point home. Go On, man, this is fascinating 329 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: and bizarre to me. It's all it's all cover, right. 330 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: I think we have it all wrong thinking, oh he 331 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: was some kind of scientist. His main goal was to 332 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: eat as many animals as possible. I think of him 333 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: as actually the first guy. Fieri really had nothing to 334 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: a science. The science bit was just a cover to 335 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: be like you see Chuck again. Yeah he's drinking. He's 336 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: drinking turtle pah. I know he's talking about his evolution thing. Yeah, 337 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: because even if we're being generous, we can say, okay, 338 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: one turtle. You know, you might be in a situation 339 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: when you're like where am I getting? When am I 340 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: going to be here again? But twenty right, Yeah, look, 341 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: we've all been to uh what's the Galapos Island and 342 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, tried to eat one of the turtles. When 343 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: first you got you got to ride the turn and 344 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: then in the head and then you eat it. That's 345 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: just how you do that's the order of operation. They 346 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: frown on that. In my experience, I mean, maybe you 347 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: had a cooler guide. The first thing I do when 348 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: I see a turtle is try and dump toxic uz 349 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: on right, that it will then turn into some kind 350 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: of hero Niza mutant. And it's a number. Miles is 351 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: wearing a cheese shredder on his face, Like what do 352 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: you guys have a guy for toxic ooze? That is 353 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: my question because oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, la man, 354 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: we'll talk off. Yeah, specialized to there's certain kinds for mammals, 355 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: and there's other ones for reptiles and ones for insects. Yeah, 356 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: as there should be. That makes sense. Did this ever 357 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: become a matter of controversy in Darwin's life? Like did 358 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: anybody ever say, hey, man, you can just eat run tortoise? 359 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean I think right, so, Uh, I think it 360 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: was actually more common, and you would expect because there's 361 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: also a great scientist named William Buckland. Uh. He was 362 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: the first person to publish a scientific study of a dinosaur. Uh. 363 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: And he made it his life's mission to eat everyone, 364 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: or eat one of every animal uh that existed, and 365 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: even at one point ate a human heart. So uh, 366 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: and they exist, they were around at the same time, 367 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: So apparently this was just a a way to kind 368 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: of flex your scientific legitimacy to the world. Just be like, yo, 369 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: this this is how I get down showing my superiority 370 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: over the natural world by putting it in my stomach, 371 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: you know it. Also, it also occurs to me that 372 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: this is kind of a weird reverse Noah's Arc kind 373 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: of scenario where instead of like saving one of every animal, 374 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna eat one of every animal just to show 375 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: that you've got one over on these creatures and that 376 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: you are, you know, the top of the food chain 377 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: and they better know that. I mean, as a scientist, 378 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: when you spend something that much time around the animals, 379 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: you really come to understand that they think they're better 380 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: than you, that they need to be put in their place. Um, 381 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: but just two quick facts that I found particularly interesting. 382 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: He ate a twenty pound rodent and said it was 383 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: the very best meat he had ever tasted, So rodent 384 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: meat is apparently underrated. And one at one point, his 385 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: hunger came into contrast with his scientific drive because he 386 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: had spent months trying to find this ostrich like bird 387 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: called a lesser ria. Uh. And he was eating what 388 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: he thought to be a greater ria. Uh and about 389 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: halfway through the portion, or about halfway through his portion 390 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: of greater ria, he realized, oh no, uh, that bone 391 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: being there means this is actually a lesser rhea, the 392 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: thing I've been looking for forever. So he had to 393 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: basically send this animal he was hoping to scientifically document 394 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: back to England as just a bunch of like chicken 395 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: bones and skin and feathers because he he had eaten 396 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: most of it, so he uh he sent them leftovers. Yes, yeah, exactly. 397 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: He did send it in a styrofoam clamshell container. I 398 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: have to do it, did he did? He then get 399 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: dia rhea. Oh, you can only imagine. I had to. 400 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: I had to had to. You are absolved, Thank you. 401 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: Somebody had to say it. It had to be said. 402 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: The guest was gonna feel on let for the judges 403 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: and yes, we will accept it. Thanks for thanks for 404 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: taking one for the team. You'll, of course glad to 405 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: do it, so we really appreciate it. So so far 406 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: we have two I would say legitimate flexes, uh, legitimately 407 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: weird at least, and both are somewhat cruel when you 408 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: think about it. Uh, you know, I think the gambit 409 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: was correct in the beginning. I think this is a 410 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: two part episode, and you know, I really hate it 411 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: when Pete podcasters say, well, we're running out of time, 412 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: so we're gonna make this a two parter shenanigans. No, 413 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 1: that's our episodes gonna be as long as we want. 414 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: We just are trying to get two episodes out of 415 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: this because we're lazy. No. Well, I mean maybe that's 416 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: where you're coming from, nol. I'm not gonna lie. I 417 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: was gonna walk outside and see if there was some 418 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: kind of rodent that I could eat for science, because 419 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: apparently that's okay now, you know, well, Ben, we were 420 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: very different people. Ben were very different, very different people. 421 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: Lazy and hungry, lazy and hungry. That's it. That's the 422 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: that's our combo before before we go on this episode, though, 423 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: a very very important question that I know everybody listening 424 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: is waiting to hear, which of the teenage mutant Ninja 425 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: Turtles is your favorite or which one do you identify 426 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: with the most. I could let it be unsaid. Um. 427 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: I was more of a casual Turtles fan So I 428 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: was more Michael Angelo, just the everybody's first choice when 429 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: they're young and first getting to know it. Yeah, michel Angelo, 430 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: he's like a rebel. Yeah, he's a rebel who likes pizza, 431 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: just like me. I mean, they all love pizza, but 432 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: he really loves he loves pizza. Um. Yeah for me, 433 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: I was I liked Michelangelo for the swag, the confidence, 434 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: the rebellious attitude, the weird flix. Um. But in the 435 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: end I kind of said I was more of a 436 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: Donna Tello guy, Okay, because I like blue. Donna Tello 437 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: was a smart one, right, didn't Donna Tello Wasn't he 438 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: the science he guy? Yeah? Donna Tello has inventions. I yeah, 439 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: and the boast that bosta, which is which is admittedly 440 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: the most boring of the Ninja Turtle's weapons, and in 441 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: my opinion, really I think Michael Angelo. The nunchucks are 442 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: obviously the most fun. He's got two of them. He 443 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: can swing them around, do all kinds of crazy tricks. 444 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: But he's got no reach. No, he's got no reach. 445 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: What do you mean He's got no reach. He's got 446 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: to reach with the nunchucks. You gotta be really active 447 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: to well, okay, I'm just my bias is showing. I'm 448 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: also teamed Donna. Tell You're on team don Tello. Yeah, 449 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: I always like raptured. Actually I misspoke. I meant say Leonardo. 450 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 1: Leonardo is the one who wars blue. Oh, that's right, 451 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: Henna wear blue. Yes, but Donna Tello was still the 452 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: science guy. Leonardo was sort of the de facto leader. Yeah, 453 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: he's like the cyclops of Turtle. That's right, that's right. 454 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: I was always Michael Angelo. I'm with that, and I 455 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: was not a casual Turtles fan. I've seen both the 456 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: original film and the Secret of the Use. I know 457 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: the Ninja rap by heart, and I had the cassette 458 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 1: called Coming Out of Our Shells that was distributed with 459 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: Domino's pizzas back in the day. Did you did you? 460 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: Do you remember that Sam Rockwell is in the first 461 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: Teenage Yes, that's right. Isn't he in the Foot? Isn't 462 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: he in the Foot Clan? Yeah, he's like the main 463 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: sort of like forward facing foot guy. He's like he's 464 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: like Fagan from Oliver. He's like recruiting little street urchin kids. Totally. 465 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: I forgot that was still stand by that as his 466 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: greatest work as an act. Oh, absolutely, he agrees, he agrees. 467 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: I think he has gone on record with that. Yeah, 468 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: it's that. And then Moon Moon would be number two 469 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: for meant distant number two. Agreed. But so we we 470 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: are going to pause for today's episode. We'll be back 471 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: with the second part of Weirdest Historical Flexes in the meantime, 472 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,239 Speaker 1: Will will forego our usual This is where you can 473 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: find us on the internet because we did that at 474 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: the front. We still have to thank everybody though, Ye. Yes, 475 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: we want to thank of course our super producer Casey Pegram, 476 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: Alex Williams who composed our track. Yes, our fabulous research 477 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: associate Gabe Luzier, our buddy Christopher Hasciots, who is due 478 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: for an appearance. Actually had lunch with Christopher other day 479 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: and he really misses us, and he's so happy to 480 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: see the show doing well. It was in a different 481 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: city school. I'm really sorry then next time, dude, I 482 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: am not man, I'm not I'm a sweetheart. But we'd 483 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: also like to thank our incredible guests who are going 484 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: to stick around if you would, for part two of 485 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: this kind of anthology episode on ridicul this history. Yeah. Thanks, 486 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: so much for coming guys, where can people while they're 487 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: waiting for this next episode, where can they hear more 488 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: from you? Miles and Jack? Oh, you can find us 489 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: every day on this network on our show The Daily Zeitgeist, 490 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: every morning or whenever you want to listen to it. 491 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: And if you're interested in social media, I mean, you 492 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: can follow me at Miles of Gray wherever you wherever 493 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: you get your social media. Yeah, and Jack underscore Obrian 494 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: on Twitter. Uh, and yes, so much of us. You 495 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: can find so much of us over at The Daily 496 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: Zeitgeist wherever fine podcasts are given away for free. And 497 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: I guess we can drop our little social media handles too. 498 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: I on Instagram at Embryonic Insider you can see me 499 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: get kicked into and out of various countries around the 500 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: world at Ben Bolan on Instagram. So that's that's all 501 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: for now. Everybody run off. I'm gonna hunt. I'm gonna 502 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: hunt some rodents. We're gonna talk about the turtles and 503 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: maybe rewatch Secret of the Use, and we'll be back 504 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: very soon. We'll see you next time, Folix. 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