WEBVTT - Taking Lessons: CH3’s advice for your path to game improvement

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. You guys know

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<v Speaker 1>the drill. We come to you every Wednesday. UH. This week.

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<v Speaker 1>UM talked in the past a little bit about kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how I teach and how I give golf lessons.

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<v Speaker 1>But UM, one of the things I mean, as someone

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<v Speaker 1>who has been teaching for you know, well over two

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<v Speaker 1>decades and give golf lessons on a regular basis, wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk today about, UM taking a golf lesson. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at taking instruction, UM, what what you should

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<v Speaker 1>be looking for in an instructor, UM, and you as

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<v Speaker 1>the lesson taker, UM, what is kind of your roles

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<v Speaker 1>and your responsibilities? UM. First of all, I think, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you were, as as golf instructors, were incredibly lucky to

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<v Speaker 1>have people take time, you know, out of their out

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<v Speaker 1>of their lives to come take golf lessons from ructors.

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<v Speaker 1>And certainly it's something that that I take really really seriously. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about some of the things that I like

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<v Speaker 1>to do and and the way I give golf lessons. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're someone that is going to take lessons

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to, UM look at investing in instruction,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, first of all, I think it's it's really

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<v Speaker 1>important that if you are going to try UM and

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<v Speaker 1>get better at golf. If if getting better and improving

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<v Speaker 1>your golf is something that is important to you, I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that that taking golf lessons obviously can help that. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Having said that, I think, UM, if you're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>an instructor, I think it's really important that that you

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<v Speaker 1>as the student, UM, that that you do a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of homework, a little bit of of due diligence. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find golf lessons, you know, from any any

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<v Speaker 1>range of price. UM. You know you can you can

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<v Speaker 1>find really really cheap golf lessons, and then you can

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<v Speaker 1>go to people and and spend a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm of the belief that that you get what

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<v Speaker 1>you pay for UM. So if you are someone that

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<v Speaker 1>is going to take UM lessons and and and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go down the route of trying to improve your

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<v Speaker 1>your golf game, UM, I think it's really important for

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<v Speaker 1>for you as the player to have a pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>idea and understanding as to what the problems are and

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<v Speaker 1>what are the areas that you feel like you can

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<v Speaker 1>you can make some gains UM, and that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to improve a lot of times I'll have people come

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<v Speaker 1>and take golf lessons and you're asking questions and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little bit like, uh, it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>like pulling teeth. It's a little bit like, Okay, let

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<v Speaker 1>me try and get as much information out of this

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<v Speaker 1>player as I can. And I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times golfers struggle. Um. And I've said this before on

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<v Speaker 1>the pod UM. I think a lot of golfers struggle

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<v Speaker 1>because they've they've played golf for a fairly long period

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<v Speaker 1>of time, and they don't really kind of have a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea of what they're trying to do, um and

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<v Speaker 1>what they need to do to hit really good, consistent

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<v Speaker 1>quality golf shots. UM. So, if I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>take a golf lesson, the big thing I would want

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<v Speaker 1>to do is figure out, first of all, what what

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<v Speaker 1>is my price range? How much do I want to

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<v Speaker 1>pay per lesson? Do I wanna take something that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of quick thirty minute lessons? Do I want to

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<v Speaker 1>take you know, a little bit longer an hour lesson,

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<v Speaker 1>or do I want to take um, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>more kind of extended to three hours. Do I want

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<v Speaker 1>to take um just one lesson and go work on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Or do I want to find an instructor that has

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<v Speaker 1>um lesson packages. You know, most golf in structures now

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<v Speaker 1>I think do six lessons um. And that is where

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of UM significant gains can be

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<v Speaker 1>made in getting a series or a package of lessons,

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<v Speaker 1>because one it's it's it's saying to the instructor if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to come in and buy, let's say, a

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<v Speaker 1>six lesson package from an instructor, I think what it

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<v Speaker 1>says to the instructor as someone that is an instructor

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<v Speaker 1>is okay, this person is somewhat serious about wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>get better, regardless of what the handicap level is. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a beginning golfer and you're completely new to golf,

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<v Speaker 1>I do think taking a series of golf lessons can

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<v Speaker 1>help you know so that you're you're you're working on

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<v Speaker 1>on things, and you're working on things over a specific

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<v Speaker 1>period of time. So anytime someone wants to come and

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<v Speaker 1>invest um a lot of time with me as an instructor,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of put them in the bucket of being,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, serious about what they want to try and

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish and what they're trying to do with their golf game. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're someone that is UM going to to

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<v Speaker 1>take lessons, I think it's important to do your homework.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to look at, uh, the instructor

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to go take lessons from, UM, what

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<v Speaker 1>type of of presence do they have on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason I say that is it's going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a good idea. I think now social media allows

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of instructors to kind of tell their story,

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<v Speaker 1>to tell UM, what they like, what they don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>what they believe in the golf swing. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's really really important that as a student, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to someone UM that you have sought out, that that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reason you've sought them out. Maybe UM, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're struggling with you're putting, and you're going to work

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<v Speaker 1>with someone that is a putting specific instructor UM and

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're specifically working on putting. Maybe you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to kind of a short game guy UM that

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<v Speaker 1>is big into short game, that that has a reputation

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<v Speaker 1>for that, and then you can go to people and

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<v Speaker 1>work on full swing. But I think it's important that

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<v Speaker 1>as the As the student, you have a good idea

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<v Speaker 1>of what the instructor you're choosing does, believes and is

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<v Speaker 1>going to try and get you to to to work

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<v Speaker 1>on UM. There are a lot of players UH that

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<v Speaker 1>want to work with with instructors that UM create power,

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<v Speaker 1>that creates speed. UM. There are instructors UM that players

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<v Speaker 1>want to work with that have UM a system, have

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of specific swing theory, and he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>try and get all of the players that they're working

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<v Speaker 1>with UM to kind of swing the golf club a

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<v Speaker 1>specific way. So, if you have a a style of

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<v Speaker 1>golf swing that you like, if you have positions in

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<v Speaker 1>the golf swing that you're like that you like, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's important to find an instructor that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shares those same ideas, beliefs, values in in the golf swing. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can get a little bit sideways UM

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got specific things that you want to work

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<v Speaker 1>on in your golf swing and you go to an

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<v Speaker 1>instructor that really doesn't kind of believe in those things

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<v Speaker 1>and and really isn't going to help you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>work on those things. There are a lot of instructors

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<v Speaker 1>that have very very specific UM ideas models positions that

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<v Speaker 1>they believe very very strongly UM in the golf swing. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>They believe that putting players in these positions, putting the

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<v Speaker 1>players into a system of swinging the golf club a

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<v Speaker 1>specific way. The instructors do that because they believe that

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to help you as a player get better.

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<v Speaker 1>So as the player, as the student, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>really important that you kind of get a good overall

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<v Speaker 1>idea of Okay, what is it that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>accomplish in in in taking golf lessons and taking instruction

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<v Speaker 1>and then finding a coach and instructor that fits along

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<v Speaker 1>with the things that that you're trying to work on

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<v Speaker 1>in the golf swing. UM. If you're I think as

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<v Speaker 1>the as the student, you want to take a look

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<v Speaker 1>UM at what kind of players? Uh this instructor that

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<v Speaker 1>you're working with works with? Um? Do they work with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot If you're a beginner, do they work with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of beginning golfers? Um? If you're an intermediate

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<v Speaker 1>you know player, If you're a mid handicap player, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>what type of mid handicap players is this person work with?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're trying to play competitively? UM? If you're really

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<v Speaker 1>really serious about your golf and you're trying to take

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<v Speaker 1>your golf game and put it on the competitive level,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's being a competitive junior, competitive amateur, competitive college player, UH,

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<v Speaker 1>a player that's trying to play competitively at the professional level.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you need to then be looking at players

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<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to compete UM. In my opinion, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you need to be looking at players. Are looking

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<v Speaker 1>at coaches and saying, Okay, what is their body of work,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the type of players that they're working with,

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<v Speaker 1>What are the type of players they're working with? Where

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<v Speaker 1>do those up the players play? Do you know if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you're an amateur, if you're a junior, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a junior high school golfer, and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>try and get to the next level, and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to try and get to to play Division one division

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<v Speaker 1>to play some sort of college golf, then I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's incumbent upon you as a as a student to

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<v Speaker 1>find an instructor that works with players that are where

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be. UM, that is working with competitive

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<v Speaker 1>juniors and and and ranked juniors either locally or state

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<v Speaker 1>or nationally UM or internationally. UM. I think if you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to play competitively UM, whatever tour you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>play on, I think it would be helpful to work

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<v Speaker 1>and seek out an instructor that has worked with players

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<v Speaker 1>on that tour that you want to go to. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>That's certainly UM one of the reasons why a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of players that play competitively UM seek me out because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've spent you know, over two decades working

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on tour all over the world, on the

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<v Speaker 1>European Tour, on the PGA Tour, on the LPGA Tour,

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<v Speaker 1>on the PGA Tour, champions UM Asia Live. I've worked

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<v Speaker 1>with players. One of the things I'm really proud of

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<v Speaker 1>is UM. The players that I've worked with over my

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<v Speaker 1>career from a competitive level has have pretty much one

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<v Speaker 1>UM at every single level and one UM, if if

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<v Speaker 1>my memory is correct, pretty much on every tour. So UM.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a competitive player and are looking to compete,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important that you find an instructor that

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<v Speaker 1>matches kind of where you want to go UM. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's really important for you as as the student

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<v Speaker 1>to let the instructor kind of know what your UM,

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<v Speaker 1>what your goals are, what UM what the end game is? UM?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the first questions I always ask

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<v Speaker 1>a student is listen, what can I help with? And

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<v Speaker 1>what what is? What is your end game? What is

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why you are coming to to take a

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<v Speaker 1>golf lesson today? UM? What are your goals? UM? One

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<v Speaker 1>of the questions if you're trying to play competitively, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what the level is junior golfer, amateur, college,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the professional level. UH. One of the questions

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always gonna ask is, UM, what's the lowest score

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<v Speaker 1>you've shot in competition this year? And what's the highest

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<v Speaker 1>score you've shot in competition this year? And that can

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes be a fairly significant end and big gap. It

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<v Speaker 1>can be maybe in the sixties on the low end

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<v Speaker 1>and in the high seventies, mid eighties on the high end. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm always trying to figure out what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>range you have, UM with regards to scoring. Let's take

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<v Speaker 1>to the instructor. Listen, these are um, these are the

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<v Speaker 1>issues that I'm having. Um, when I play well, I

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<v Speaker 1>hit this type of shot. When I play my best,

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<v Speaker 1>I do these things. I'm always asking players students, um

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm that I'm working with. What what is the

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<v Speaker 1>shape that you're trying to hit? Um? Where is the miss?

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<v Speaker 1>What type of miss do you have? Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a directional miss meaning the ball is curving too much?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a contact miss. Uh, it's the quality

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<v Speaker 1>of stripe between the club and and the ball. Um,

0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:20.400
<v Speaker 1>do you hit the ball thin? Do you hit the

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<v Speaker 1>ball heavy? All of those things, And a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times when I'm asking those questions to a student, I

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<v Speaker 1>get that kind of you know, dumbfounded look, and and

0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:34.280
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's almost like the player doesn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>it is they do. So I think it's really important

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<v Speaker 1>that if you're going to take golf lessons, you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to come and say to the instructor, listen, these are

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<v Speaker 1>my goals from a golf standpoint, this is what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do. I want to try I want to

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<v Speaker 1>break a hundred for the first time, eighty great par

0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.040
<v Speaker 1>for the first time. And that's my goal. You know,

0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm a twenty handicap. I want to try

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<v Speaker 1>and get down to a team. I want to try

0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and get into the teens. I want to become a

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<v Speaker 1>single digit and um, these are also my goals incoming

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<v Speaker 1>and taking a golf lesson from you as the instructor.

0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:19.880
<v Speaker 1>My goal is to try and change this about my game,

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<v Speaker 1>to try and improve this about my game. UM. I

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<v Speaker 1>also think a lot of times, um, instructors get sideways

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<v Speaker 1>with with with students because I think sometimes UM students

0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:38.920
<v Speaker 1>can have unrealistic expectations of of coming and taking a

0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.120
<v Speaker 1>golf lesson. UM. I feel like I'm pretty good at

0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.840
<v Speaker 1>giving golf lessons. I feel like I'm pretty good UM

0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:49.880
<v Speaker 1>at instruction. UM. But based off of what I'm working

0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:54.720
<v Speaker 1>with as as an instructor, UM, you know, largely you're

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<v Speaker 1>working around what a player is doing, UM, what a

0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.160
<v Speaker 1>player can do, what a player is physically able to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another UM part that I think is really important

0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:11.920
<v Speaker 1>for UM people getting lessons to to convey to instructors. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my health history. UM, I've had these injuries. UM,

0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I currently have these injuries. UM. Anytime a player comes

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<v Speaker 1>to me and says that they've got any sort of injuries,

0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.840
<v Speaker 1>they've had injuries and past or they've had recent injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>the number one thing I ask is, listen, have you

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<v Speaker 1>been cleared to hit golf balls? Have you been cleared

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<v Speaker 1>by your medical professional, by your doctor, by your physiotherapist,

0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.760
<v Speaker 1>whoever is in charge of of your rehab if you're

0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.120
<v Speaker 1>if you've been injured, UM, who's in charge of that?

0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And UM, are you able and have you been given

0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.960
<v Speaker 1>clearance to hit golf balls? Um, you should not anyone

0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.080
<v Speaker 1>listening to this this podcast if you're hitting golf balls

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to the driving range and you're hitting

0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.680
<v Speaker 1>off balls for an hour, UM, you should not be

0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.360
<v Speaker 1>in pain hitting golf balls. UM. Golf is not a

0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.320
<v Speaker 1>contact sport. UM. I was working with the junior the

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<v Speaker 1>other day. UH eleven, twelve year old Jr. UM had

0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:18.640
<v Speaker 1>made that jump from UM playing US kids golf to

0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:23.080
<v Speaker 1>playing regular length UM golf clubs. This this young UM

0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:27.280
<v Speaker 1>kid UM I think he was. He was probably under

0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:32.040
<v Speaker 1>five ft tall UM, and he was playing and had

0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:36.320
<v Speaker 1>been fitted with golf clubs UM that were about a

0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.920
<v Speaker 1>half inch longer than the golf clubs that maybe an

0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.000
<v Speaker 1>inch to a half inch longer than the golf clubs

0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I play with. Yes, they had graphite shafts, UM. But

0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the kid was making a golf swing based off of

0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.160
<v Speaker 1>the golf club that he was playing. Um. It was

0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.880
<v Speaker 1>too long, it was too heavy. Even though he was

0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.600
<v Speaker 1>professionally fitted for these clubs, he was playing with effectively

0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.760
<v Speaker 1>kids clubs. And he and his and his parents decided

0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.120
<v Speaker 1>to get him into regular golf clubs, which is something

0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:07.040
<v Speaker 1>that every young kid wants to do right. Every young

0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.000
<v Speaker 1>player doesn't want to play with kids clubs. They want

0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to play with real golf clubs. Um. But I was

0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.680
<v Speaker 1>watching this kid hit golf balls, and you know, in

0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:19.560
<v Speaker 1>asking him questions, UM, the quality of the strike tended

0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to be a bigger issue for him than the direction

0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the golf ball was going. So we looked at him

0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.479
<v Speaker 1>on video and we could just see that he was

0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.520
<v Speaker 1>putting the golf club in a position at the top

0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.760
<v Speaker 1>of the back swing. Um, that was very very difficult

0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.040
<v Speaker 1>for him to control. The back swing was very very long. Um.

0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:41.359
<v Speaker 1>He had a lot of you know, extending backwards, a

0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of curvature, UM in his spine, he had a

0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, his leaning left at the top

0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.000
<v Speaker 1>of the back swing. And UM, I looked at his

0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.280
<v Speaker 1>golf swing and I and I said to his dad,

0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:55.359
<v Speaker 1>I said, listen, um, we we need to make some

0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.600
<v Speaker 1>serious changes here so your son doesn't get hurt. And

0:17:57.640 --> 0:17:59.399
<v Speaker 1>the father said, well, what do you mean. So I

0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.040
<v Speaker 1>said to the to the to the junior, I said, listen,

0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna get in trouble for for saying this,

0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.919
<v Speaker 1>but be honest with me when you go practice golf balls.

0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Does your back hurt? And you could see the kid,

0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, made the nervous look to the dad. The

0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.359
<v Speaker 1>dad's kind of looking at the kid going, you know,

0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you never tell me you're hurt. Um, you never tell

0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.520
<v Speaker 1>me you're in pain. Um. And so the father said

0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to the son, listen, be honest, or are you in

0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.119
<v Speaker 1>pain when you hit golf balls? And the kid shook

0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.280
<v Speaker 1>his head and was like, yeah, I'm I'm I'm in

0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.119
<v Speaker 1>pain a lot of time. And he showed me exactly

0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.600
<v Speaker 1>where the pain is in his in his low back

0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and his mid back, and and he said, sometimes, you know,

0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.199
<v Speaker 1>if he has a day where he hits a lot

0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.520
<v Speaker 1>of golf balls on the weekend, goes and plays golf

0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:43.639
<v Speaker 1>for eighteen holes, Um, he struggles to sleep at night

0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.440
<v Speaker 1>because it's back hurt. And the kid's eleven years old,

0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know, golf should not be hurting his back.

0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:54.040
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's important that, um, you are honest

0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.720
<v Speaker 1>with the instructors that you're you're working with and say,

0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.320
<v Speaker 1>listen to my it's my injury history. That's what I've

0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.119
<v Speaker 1>been dealing with now. And then I think it's important

0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.960
<v Speaker 1>to to explain to the instructor. Listen, I've had some

0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.960
<v Speaker 1>lessons before. These are the things that I've done. If

0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you have had lessons before, Um, these are the things

0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I've worked on. Um, they worked, they didn't work. They

0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.320
<v Speaker 1>worked for a little while, then they didn't work. And

0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.400
<v Speaker 1>these are the reasons why they didn't work. And I

0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.200
<v Speaker 1>was unable to stick with him. I think a lot

0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:30.679
<v Speaker 1>of times, UM, students are looking, um, for golfers to

0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.919
<v Speaker 1>for instructors to somewhat have a magic bullet, uh, to

0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.479
<v Speaker 1>be able to come in take one golf lesson. Boom,

0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:41.960
<v Speaker 1>You're cured and everything's fine. Um, you as the player

0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:46.119
<v Speaker 1>are going to have a d n A, a signature.

0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:49.720
<v Speaker 1>Everybody swinging a golf club kind of has their own

0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:53.239
<v Speaker 1>d n A, their own kind of signature of what

0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:57.760
<v Speaker 1>their swing does. And and so I think students are

0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:02.119
<v Speaker 1>looking at instructors to kind of change these signatures and

0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.760
<v Speaker 1>change these patterns. But a lot of times, Um, these

0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:10.520
<v Speaker 1>are very ingrained patterns. They're very ingrained motions. You know,

0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:14.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you've been playing golf, you know, ten, fifteen, sometimes

0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:17.040
<v Speaker 1>twenty years, and you're you're working on a lot of

0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:20.359
<v Speaker 1>the same movements, and you're doing a lot of the

0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.959
<v Speaker 1>same things. You know. They say that there's the cliche

0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.240
<v Speaker 1>that practice makes perfect, but practice can also make permanent.

0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.960
<v Speaker 1>So if you do the same thing over and over

0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and over again when you do come for a golf

0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:34.800
<v Speaker 1>lesson UM, that might not be a quick fix. It

0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.360
<v Speaker 1>might be a situation to where you might need to say, Okay,

0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.360
<v Speaker 1>as the instructor, listen, this is what you do. UM,

0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:44.000
<v Speaker 1>we're going to try and change some of this. But UM,

0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.919
<v Speaker 1>you know what you do is is is is a

0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.399
<v Speaker 1>difficult move, and we're going to try and make some

0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.800
<v Speaker 1>changes to help you offset that. But I do think

0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:56.879
<v Speaker 1>at times it's it's it's unrealistic to think that you

0:20:56.920 --> 0:21:01.080
<v Speaker 1>can come in UM and make massive change, just really

0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.639
<v Speaker 1>really quick. Now, if you're playing a lot of golf,

0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:08.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're playing UM competitive golf, UM, if you're practicing

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, three four or five, six, seven days a week,

0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:15.280
<v Speaker 1>if you're playing two, three, four or five times a week,

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:20.080
<v Speaker 1>then I think change can be made quicker because you're

0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.400
<v Speaker 1>getting in more reps. But you've also got to remember

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 1>that going to a golf lesson UM for the first

0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.159
<v Speaker 1>time with a brand new instructor is very much like

0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.400
<v Speaker 1>going to a personal trainer and saying, listen, I'm out

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.359
<v Speaker 1>of shape. It's January one. Uh, you know, I'm twenty

0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.200
<v Speaker 1>pounds overweight. UM, I want to try and get in shape,

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:41.359
<v Speaker 1>and I really want to try and lose some weight.

0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.520
<v Speaker 1>What they're going to do is they're going to create

0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a plan for you. UM. They're going to create a

0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:52.920
<v Speaker 1>series of workouts and things that you can do over

0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:55.520
<v Speaker 1>an extended period of time. Because if you say to

0:21:55.640 --> 0:22:03.480
<v Speaker 1>a physical trainer on January one, January second, listen, i'mds overweight. UM.

0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to spend you know, basically all day with

0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you today, you know, three or four or five six

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:11.679
<v Speaker 1>hours in the gym working out, doing all this stuff,

0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and hopefully I'm gonna be UM, I'm gonna lose weight

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow and be in shape. Unfortunately, UM, it doesn't work

0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:22.440
<v Speaker 1>like that. So our job as instructors are to try

0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and say, two players, listen, Okay, let's figure out a

0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:30.640
<v Speaker 1>way that we could build a better pattern for you

0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and try and eliminate some of the things that that

0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:36.720
<v Speaker 1>you do. UM. Not specifically the way I teach. I

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 1>don't basically teach by UM numbers or by systems or theory.

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I I look at what a player does individually, and

0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:47.679
<v Speaker 1>I say, Okay, what can I do to help this player?

0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:50.800
<v Speaker 1>UM swing the golf club better? And so that's where

0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I think, as the student, you've got to look um

0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 1>at what your problems are. UM. One of my favorite

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 1>sports to play A UM, I play tennis. UM. I

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.520
<v Speaker 1>love playing tennis. UM. I I read a lot, I

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:09.240
<v Speaker 1>follow a lot about tennis. UM, I take tennis lessons,

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>and UM you know when I look for tennis instructors, UM,

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:16.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I do my homework, I look at you

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 1>know what type of players they work with, what type

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:22.640
<v Speaker 1>of theories they have. UM. You know my back hand

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 1>is not great. My four hands okay, but my back

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:28.919
<v Speaker 1>hand isn't great. And UM I've been working with with

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the tennis instructor that UM we've done a lot of

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:35.520
<v Speaker 1>work on on my footwork. UM it has helped me

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 1>improve a lot of my strokes. But UM, I looked

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.479
<v Speaker 1>at a tennis instructor and I kind of knew some

0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>of the things that that he he did, and that's

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why I chose him. UM. My

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 1>tennis game is a work in progress. Right. I don't

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like when I go, UM take a one tennis

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>lessons on my ground strokes are immediately going to improve. UM,

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:01.679
<v Speaker 1>because I do like tennis. I've I've bought a ball machine,

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.639
<v Speaker 1>and so now I go take tennis lessons. Um, I

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 1>go have people that I hit with, but I also

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>go and get on the ball machine and work on

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>these kind of drills and and footworks um. So UM.

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 1>And I think that always really helps me as as

0:24:17.200 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>a golf instructor to go take, um a lesson in

0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.679
<v Speaker 1>another sport from someone else. UM. And it's a sport

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>that that I'm interested in. So let's take a short

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:32.119
<v Speaker 1>break and we will be back right after this. All right,

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 1>let's get back to the interview. I think you have

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to be patient. I think you have to have realistic goals. UM.

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I think you want to try and look at your

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.440
<v Speaker 1>golf swing and changing your golf swing and improving your

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>golf swing a little bit like trying to climb Mount Everest. Um,

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>You're at the bottom and you're going to try and

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>get to the top of a and the highest mountain

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>in the world. UM, You're not going to make it

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 1>by starting at the bottom and trying to climb to

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:02.679
<v Speaker 1>the top. Um, you will fail every single time you

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>do that, what you've got to do is you've got

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to get up, get to base camp, get acclimated. Then

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 1>you go to Camp one. Then you can go to

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 1>camp to get acclimated, get comfortable. Then you can go

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:16.199
<v Speaker 1>to Camp three, get out, then you can go to

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Camp four. So all along the line, you're you're doing

0:25:19.320 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 1>things in stages. You're doing things to where you can

0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:24.760
<v Speaker 1>you can climb in my mountain, you're trying to get

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.399
<v Speaker 1>up the mountain safely, and you're trying to get up

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the mountain with all of the UM supplies that you need,

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's just impossible to do that all in one

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>go to just start at the bottom and try and

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 1>climb to the top. So I think it's important that

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 1>as as a student you look at okay, UM, there

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>might be some short term issues UM. And I think

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the issues that that golfers have is they

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>go take golf lessons and UM and then they try

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and take what they're working on in their golf lesson

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:58.479
<v Speaker 1>straight out onto the golf course. UM. In an ideal world,

0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you would have some time time to work on on

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 1>on the changes, work on the things that you're going

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to try and make um, you know, permanent in your

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>golf swing. But also you have to also then do

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>two separate things. You have to practice golf, which we

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>do on the driving range, and then when you go

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>play golf, you have to go play golf. You can't

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>go out and play golf swing. And I think a

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of students that that that that struggle is they

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 1>go they take golf lessons and then what they try

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and do is they try and go out on the

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 1>golf course and they're working on their golf swing. You

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 1>should be doing two things. Should be practicing and when,

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and you should be playing. When you play, you should

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>be playing with whatever swing you've got. And if it's

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>a work in progress, it's a work in progress. But

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.159
<v Speaker 1>you've still got to be able to go to the

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>golf course and try and score and try and play.

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:54.679
<v Speaker 1>And that is the art of playing and executing. And

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.920
<v Speaker 1>then there is the technical part, the technique, the swing thing.

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>You've heard me talk a lot about that if you're

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>a regular listen to the pod. The difference between technique

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and execution. Um. And I think a lot of golfers

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 1>as well, UM, they try and do everything. Specifically players

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>that are going to compete. They're trying to do everything

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>in a vacuum right there, trying to make changes without playing.

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And I always say to players that are trying to compete,

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:19.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, they come in and they say, hey, I'm

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna try and make some changes. You know, I'm you know,

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>trying to get the first stage of of corn Ferry.

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to, you know, go to Asian Tour qualifying school,

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>so I want to try and make some changes to

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>become a better ball striker whatever. And a player will

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>come and then they'll say, you know what, I'm just

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>now going to shut everything down and work on my game.

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.919
<v Speaker 1>And I'm always like, listen, I think it's important for

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>you to work on your game, but I think you

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>have to work on your game while you're playing golf.

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:46.879
<v Speaker 1>You have to be able to do and you have

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>to do both. You can't just shut everything down practice

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>only and then hope that you're going to go play

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's going to be fine. There's a difference between

0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>playing golf and practicing golf, and I think playing golf

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 1>off is hugely, hugely important, and I think you want

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to try and if you are going through some swing changes,

0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>if you are going through some some lessons. Um. I

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's important that you're able to take a lesson,

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 1>go practice, you know, to three a couple of times,

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe go play nine holes, then come back and say

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 1>to the instructor that you're working with, Okay, I came

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 1>for this lesson. These are the things that we worked on.

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I went ahead and did these things and worked on

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 1>these drills and felt like, you know, I was making

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>some progress. And then I went and played, and when

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I played, this is what I saw. I saw this contact,

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I saw this shape, I saw this miss. That then

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>allows you to to share that with the instructor that

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>you're working with, so that they can then say, okay,

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>based off of the stuff that we're trying to work

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>on in your golf swing, based off of what you

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>say is happening in practice, and based off of what

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you tell me is happening in or when you're on

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the golf course, then I can go ahead and say, okay, well,

0:29:00.960 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>these are things that we need to try and continue

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>to work on. Maybe we need to add this, maybe

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 1>you need to take a little bit of this away.

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>But I do think it's important that you just don't

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>shut everything down and just become a practice er, not

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>a player. The goal is to play better golf, right,

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>But what everybody does is they just spend an enormous

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>amount of time solely just on practicing, and they forget

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>that part of playing better golf is learning how to

0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>play on the golf course, and you have to do

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that regardless of what your golf swing looks like. Your

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 1>golf swing is always going to be in a state

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>of flux. It's always going to be fluid. There are

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>going to be days where you're hitting really good. There's

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be days where you're not. But you still

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>have to play and have to be able to somewhat

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>compete and find a way to shoot a decent score

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>with the swing and the technique that you've got. Let's

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break and we are back. I think

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to ask as many questions as you can

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>in a golf lesson. Um, you should be asking if

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 1>if if an instructor is telling you to do something

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't make sense and you don't understand it, UM,

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>don't be embarrassed. Hey, listen, could you explain that better?

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Could you explain that in a different way? Because I

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>don't really get what you're trying to get across here.

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of times UM students think that

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>instructors are going to be you know, get mad or

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're questioning them. If any instructor that you're

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>working with UM doesn't like you asking questions, UM kind

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 1>of makes you feel, you know, somewhat ignorant or belittled

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>for asking questions and says, hey, no, no, just just

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>do what I tell you to do. You you need

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to walk away from that and not go back UM.

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Any theory, any position, any concept that a coach is

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>asking you to do as the play or they should

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>be able to draw you a picture, a very specific UM,

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>easy to follow, easy for you to understand, a good

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 1>idea of what they want you to do, and you

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>should be able to kind of spit that back at them.

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I say that a lot of times. I'll say that

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to a player. Okay, you know, we start off, we're

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>working on these things, we're working on these positions, we're

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 1>working on this type of move UM. And then I'll say, okay,

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and repeat this back to me. Pretend like

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about golf, and you tell me

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>what you're working on with your instructor, so you give

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 1>it back to me and talk me through it. And

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that opens up that dialogue for you as

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>the player and you and and certainly me as the coach,

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>to to figure out if there's a disconnect, if what

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying isn't making sense UM. So I think it's

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>important that you have that that good kind of UM

0:31:57.720 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>communication with the instructor you're working on UM. But they

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be telling you to do things because that's what

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>they're telling you to do, and you shouldn't be asking

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>any questions. You should ask as many questions as possible.

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's important if you're going to take lessons

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>and you are serious about getting better UM, I would

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>keep a lesson journal. I would write down UM everything

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>that I was working on UM and take notes and

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and have a really good idea UM. Hopefully you're working

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>with an instructor that UM can give you video to

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>your golf swing, giving you that video back from the

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>lesson with voice notes with voice over. I think that's

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>really really in help helpful for for you to have

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>a good understanding as as as the player, what you're

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to do. But I do think it is important

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>as as the student to ask as many questions as possible,

0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>and like I said, to have realistic expectations to say, Okay, listen,

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to this instructor for these things. These are

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the things I'm trying to change. These are the ways

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to try and get better, UM, say

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to the instructor at the beginning, listen, based off of

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>what you see, UM, be honest with me, give me

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>a timeline here on. You know how difficult you think

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be to fix. Um, what are

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>some of the things that I can expect along the way? UM,

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.480
<v Speaker 1>So that when I'm not taking a lesson from you,

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>what should I expect? UM? What should the miss be?

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>What should the good shot be? And I think if

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>you have a really good idea as the student of

0:33:32.600 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>what you're trying to do, what you want to do,

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>and you have someone that you're working with that can

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>draw you a really really clear defined concept and you know,

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>plan an outline on the direction you're going to try

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>and go, then I think you know you can get

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>better as as a student. UM. I think you have

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to be patient, You have to be honest with yourself

0:33:56.960 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>as a student as to what your talent level is, UM,

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>if you were, you know, in that average golfer range.

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And to me, the average golfers is pretty much the

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>majority of people playing golf that UM. Average golfers to

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>me are people that aren't trying to compete. Then they

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.839
<v Speaker 1>might be playing in tournaments at their course, but they're not.

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Their entire life isn't based on the competing part UM.

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 1>And so I think you need to have realistic expectations

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and and say, Okay, if I really want to improve,

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm willing maybe to take a couple of steps back.

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have to get worse before you

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>get better. UM, I don't believe that. I think you

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>can get better. I think it just takes time. And

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and if you're willing to devote the time, and you

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 1>have the time to practice and try and embed and

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>implement some of the changes that you're working on, then

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you can make changes. But UM, you know

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the keys for me, for lesson takers, do your homework.

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 1>Have realistic expectations, UM, Have realistic expectations based off of

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>how much you can play, how much you can practice,

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Have realistic expectations based off of UM, what your body

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:10.760
<v Speaker 1>can and can't do what your ages? What's your flexibility is? UM?

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, are you working out, are you moving a

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 1>lot um in a non golf way on a regular basis.

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Those are all things that are going to hinder but

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>also help your progression as a player. UM. But like

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, UM, I'm very very lucky that people UM

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>choose to come take golf lessons from me. I take

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>it really really seriously. And if you are going to

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>take lessons, like I said, do your homework, UM, figure

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 1>out what you want to try and accomplish, and have

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>really really specific to find clear goals as to what

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you want to try and do with your golf swing,

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>what you want to try and get out of the

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:55.359
<v Speaker 1>golf lesson and convey that to the instructor and and

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:59.359
<v Speaker 1>hopefully there will point you in the right direction. UM.

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Be patient, UM and hopefully UM, some of this information

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.919
<v Speaker 1>helps and and and maybe UM you start thinking about

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.919
<v Speaker 1>taking lessons in a different way. I want to thank

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody for listening. Some of a bich comes to you

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>every Wednesday. We will see you next week.