1 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butcher podcast. You guys know 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: the drill. We come to you every Wednesday. UH. This week. 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: UM talked in the past a little bit about kind 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: of how I teach and how I give golf lessons. 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: But UM, one of the things I mean, as someone 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: who has been teaching for you know, well over two 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: decades and give golf lessons on a regular basis, wanted 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: to talk today about, UM taking a golf lesson. If 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: you're looking at taking instruction, UM, what what you should 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: be looking for in an instructor, UM, and you as 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: the lesson taker, UM, what is kind of your roles 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: and your responsibilities? UM. First of all, I think, UM, 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: you were, as as golf instructors, were incredibly lucky to 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: have people take time, you know, out of their out 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: of their lives to come take golf lessons from ructors. 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: And certainly it's something that that I take really really seriously. UM. 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: I've talked about some of the things that I like 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: to do and and the way I give golf lessons. UM. 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: So if you're someone that is going to take lessons 20 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: and you're going to, UM look at investing in instruction, 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, I think it's it's really 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: important that if you are going to try UM and 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: get better at golf. If if getting better and improving 24 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: your golf is something that is important to you, I 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: do think that that taking golf lessons obviously can help that. UM. 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: Having said that, I think, UM, if you're looking for 27 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: an instructor, I think it's really important that that you 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: as the student, UM, that that you do a little 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: bit of homework, a little bit of of due diligence. UM. 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: You can find golf lessons, you know, from any any 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: range of price. UM. You know you can you can 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: find really really cheap golf lessons, and then you can 33 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: go to people and and spend a lot of money. 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: And I'm of the belief that that you get what 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: you pay for UM. So if you are someone that 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: is going to take UM lessons and and and kind 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: of go down the route of trying to improve your 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: your golf game, UM, I think it's really important for 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: for you as the player to have a pretty good 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: idea and understanding as to what the problems are and 41 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: what are the areas that you feel like you can 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: you can make some gains UM, and that you need 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: to improve a lot of times I'll have people come 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: and take golf lessons and you're asking questions and it's 45 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: it's a little bit like, uh, it's a little bit 46 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: like pulling teeth. It's a little bit like, Okay, let 47 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: me try and get as much information out of this 48 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: player as I can. And I think a lot of 49 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: times golfers struggle. Um. And I've said this before on 50 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: the pod UM. I think a lot of golfers struggle 51 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: because they've they've played golf for a fairly long period 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: of time, and they don't really kind of have a 53 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: good idea of what they're trying to do, um and 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: what they need to do to hit really good, consistent 55 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: quality golf shots. UM. So, if I'm going to go 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: take a golf lesson, the big thing I would want 57 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: to do is figure out, first of all, what what 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: is my price range? How much do I want to 59 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: pay per lesson? Do I wanna take something that's you know, 60 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: kind of quick thirty minute lessons? Do I want to 61 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: take you know, a little bit longer an hour lesson, 62 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: or do I want to take um, you know, a 63 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: more kind of extended to three hours. Do I want 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: to take um just one lesson and go work on it. 65 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: Or do I want to find an instructor that has 66 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: um lesson packages. You know, most golf in structures now 67 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: I think do six lessons um. And that is where 68 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: I think a lot of UM significant gains can be 69 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: made in getting a series or a package of lessons, 70 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: because one it's it's it's saying to the instructor if 71 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: you're going to come in and buy, let's say, a 72 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: six lesson package from an instructor, I think what it 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: says to the instructor as someone that is an instructor 74 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: is okay, this person is somewhat serious about wanting to 75 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: get better, regardless of what the handicap level is. Obviously, 76 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: if you're a beginning golfer and you're completely new to golf, 77 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: I do think taking a series of golf lessons can 78 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: help you know so that you're you're you're working on 79 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: on things, and you're working on things over a specific 80 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: period of time. So anytime someone wants to come and 81 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: invest um a lot of time with me as an instructor, 82 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: I kind of put them in the bucket of being, 83 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: you know, serious about what they want to try and 84 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: accomplish and what they're trying to do with their golf game. UM. 85 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: So if you're someone that is UM going to to 86 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: take lessons, I think it's important to do your homework. 87 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: I think it's important to look at, uh, the instructor 88 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: that you're going to go take lessons from, UM, what 89 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: type of of presence do they have on social media. 90 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: The reason I say that is it's going to give 91 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: you a good idea. I think now social media allows 92 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: a lot of instructors to kind of tell their story, 93 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: to tell UM, what they like, what they don't like, 94 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: what they believe in the golf swing. And I think 95 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: that's really really important that as a student, you're going 96 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: to someone UM that you have sought out, that that 97 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: there's a reason you've sought them out. Maybe UM, you're 98 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: you're struggling with you're putting, and you're going to work 99 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: with someone that is a putting specific instructor UM and 100 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: they're they're specifically working on putting. Maybe you're going to 101 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: go to kind of a short game guy UM that 102 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: is big into short game, that that has a reputation 103 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: for that, and then you can go to people and 104 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: work on full swing. But I think it's important that 105 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 1: as the As the student, you have a good idea 106 00:05:54,839 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: of what the instructor you're choosing does, believes and is 107 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: going to try and get you to to to work 108 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: on UM. There are a lot of players UH that 109 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: want to work with with instructors that UM create power, 110 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: that creates speed. UM. There are instructors UM that players 111 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: want to work with that have UM a system, have 112 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: a kind of specific swing theory, and he's going to 113 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: try and get all of the players that they're working 114 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: with UM to kind of swing the golf club a 115 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: specific way. So, if you have a a style of 116 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: golf swing that you like, if you have positions in 117 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: the golf swing that you're like that you like, I 118 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: think it's important to find an instructor that kind of 119 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: shares those same ideas, beliefs, values in in the golf swing. UM. 120 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 1: I think you can get a little bit sideways UM 121 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: if you've got specific things that you want to work 122 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: on in your golf swing and you go to an 123 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: instructor that really doesn't kind of believe in those things 124 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: and and really isn't going to help you kind of 125 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: work on those things. There are a lot of instructors 126 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: that have very very specific UM ideas models positions that 127 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: they believe very very strongly UM in the golf swing. UM. 128 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: They believe that putting players in these positions, putting the 129 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: players into a system of swinging the golf club a 130 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: specific way. The instructors do that because they believe that 131 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: that's going to help you as a player get better. 132 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: So as the player, as the student, I think it's 133 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: really important that you kind of get a good overall 134 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: idea of Okay, what is it that I want to 135 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: accomplish in in in taking golf lessons and taking instruction 136 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: and then finding a coach and instructor that fits along 137 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: with the things that that you're trying to work on 138 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: in the golf swing. UM. If you're I think as 139 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 1: the as the student, you want to take a look 140 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: UM at what kind of players? Uh this instructor that 141 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: you're working with works with? Um? Do they work with 142 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: a lot If you're a beginner, do they work with 143 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: a lot of beginning golfers? Um? If you're an intermediate 144 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: you know player, If you're a mid handicap player, UM, 145 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: what type of mid handicap players is this person work with? 146 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: If you're trying to play competitively? UM? If you're really 147 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: really serious about your golf and you're trying to take 148 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: your golf game and put it on the competitive level, 149 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: whether that's being a competitive junior, competitive amateur, competitive college player, UH, 150 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: a player that's trying to play competitively at the professional level. 151 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: I think you need to then be looking at players 152 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: if you're trying to compete UM. In my opinion, I 153 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: think you need to be looking at players. Are looking 154 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: at coaches and saying, Okay, what is their body of work, 155 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: what are the type of players that they're working with, 156 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: What are the type of players they're working with? Where 157 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: do those up the players play? Do you know if 158 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: you're if you're an amateur, if you're a junior, if 159 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: you're a junior high school golfer, and you want to 160 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: try and get to the next level, and you want 161 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: to try and get to to play Division one division 162 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: to play some sort of college golf, then I think 163 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: it's incumbent upon you as a as a student to 164 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: find an instructor that works with players that are where 165 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: you want to be. UM, that is working with competitive 166 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: juniors and and and ranked juniors either locally or state 167 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: or nationally UM or internationally. UM. I think if you're 168 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: trying to play competitively UM, whatever tour you're trying to 169 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: play on, I think it would be helpful to work 170 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: and seek out an instructor that has worked with players 171 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: on that tour that you want to go to. UM. 172 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: That's certainly UM one of the reasons why a lot 173 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: of players that play competitively UM seek me out because 174 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, I've spent you know, over two decades working 175 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: you know, on tour all over the world, on the 176 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: European Tour, on the PGA Tour, on the LPGA Tour, 177 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour, champions UM Asia Live. I've worked 178 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: with players. One of the things I'm really proud of 179 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: is UM. The players that I've worked with over my 180 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: career from a competitive level has have pretty much one 181 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: UM at every single level and one UM, if if 182 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: my memory is correct, pretty much on every tour. So UM. 183 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: If you're a competitive player and are looking to compete, 184 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: I think it's important that you find an instructor that 185 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: matches kind of where you want to go UM. I 186 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: think it's really important for you as as the student 187 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: to let the instructor kind of know what your UM, 188 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: what your goals are, what UM what the end game is? UM? 189 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: And that's one of the first questions I always ask 190 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: a student is listen, what can I help with? And 191 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: what what is? What is your end game? What is 192 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: the reason why you are coming to to take a 193 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: golf lesson today? UM? What are your goals? UM? One 194 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: of the questions if you're trying to play competitively, UM, 195 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: regardless of what the level is junior golfer, amateur, college, 196 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, the professional level. UH. One of the questions 197 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm always gonna ask is, UM, what's the lowest score 198 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: you've shot in competition this year? And what's the highest 199 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: score you've shot in competition this year? And that can 200 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: sometimes be a fairly significant end and big gap. It 201 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: can be maybe in the sixties on the low end 202 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: and in the high seventies, mid eighties on the high end. 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Listen, these are um, these are the 223 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: issues that I'm having. Um, when I play well, I 224 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: hit this type of shot. When I play my best, 225 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: I do these things. I'm always asking players students, um 226 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: that I'm that I'm working with. What what is the 227 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: shape that you're trying to hit? Um? Where is the miss? 228 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: What type of miss do you have? Do you have 229 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: a directional miss meaning the ball is curving too much? 230 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: Do you have a contact miss. Uh, it's the quality 231 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: of stripe between the club and and the ball. Um, 232 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: do you hit the ball thin? Do you hit the 233 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: ball heavy? All of those things, And a lot of 234 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: times when I'm asking those questions to a student, I 235 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: get that kind of you know, dumbfounded look, and and 236 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: it's it's it's almost like the player doesn't know what 237 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: it is they do. So I think it's really important 238 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: that if you're going to take golf lessons, you're able 239 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: to come and say to the instructor, listen, these are 240 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: my goals from a golf standpoint, this is what I 241 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: want to do. I want to try I want to 242 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: break a hundred for the first time, eighty great par 243 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: for the first time. And that's my goal. You know, 244 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a twenty handicap. I want to try 245 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: and get down to a team. I want to try 246 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: and get into the teens. I want to become a 247 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: single digit and um, these are also my goals incoming 248 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: and taking a golf lesson from you as the instructor. 249 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: My goal is to try and change this about my game, 250 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: to try and improve this about my game. UM. I 251 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: also think a lot of times, um, instructors get sideways 252 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: with with with students because I think sometimes UM students 253 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: can have unrealistic expectations of of coming and taking a 254 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: golf lesson. UM. I feel like I'm pretty good at 255 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: giving golf lessons. I feel like I'm pretty good UM 256 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: at instruction. UM. But based off of what I'm working 257 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: with as as an instructor, UM, you know, largely you're 258 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: working around what a player is doing, UM, what a 259 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: player can do, what a player is physically able to do. 260 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: That's another UM part that I think is really important 261 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: for UM people getting lessons to to convey to instructors. Listen, 262 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: this is my health history. UM, I've had these injuries. UM, 263 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: I currently have these injuries. UM. Anytime a player comes 264 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: to me and says that they've got any sort of injuries, 265 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: they've had injuries and past or they've had recent injuries, 266 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: the number one thing I ask is, listen, have you 267 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: been cleared to hit golf balls? Have you been cleared 268 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: by your medical professional, by your doctor, by your physiotherapist, 269 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: whoever is in charge of of your rehab if you're 270 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: if you've been injured, UM, who's in charge of that? 271 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: And UM, are you able and have you been given 272 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: clearance to hit golf balls? Um, you should not anyone 273 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: listening to this this podcast if you're hitting golf balls 274 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: and you're going to the driving range and you're hitting 275 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: off balls for an hour, UM, you should not be 276 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: in pain hitting golf balls. UM. Golf is not a 277 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: contact sport. UM. I was working with the junior the 278 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: other day. UH eleven, twelve year old Jr. UM had 279 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: made that jump from UM playing US kids golf to 280 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: playing regular length UM golf clubs. This this young UM 281 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: kid UM I think he was. He was probably under 282 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: five ft tall UM, and he was playing and had 283 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: been fitted with golf clubs UM that were about a 284 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: half inch longer than the golf clubs that maybe an 285 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: inch to a half inch longer than the golf clubs 286 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: I play with. Yes, they had graphite shafts, UM. But 287 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: the kid was making a golf swing based off of 288 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: the golf club that he was playing. Um. It was 289 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: too long, it was too heavy. Even though he was 290 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: professionally fitted for these clubs, he was playing with effectively 291 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: kids clubs. And he and his and his parents decided 292 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: to get him into regular golf clubs, which is something 293 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: that every young kid wants to do right. Every young 294 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: player doesn't want to play with kids clubs. They want 295 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: to play with real golf clubs. Um. But I was 296 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: watching this kid hit golf balls, and you know, in 297 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: asking him questions, UM, the quality of the strike tended 298 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: to be a bigger issue for him than the direction 299 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: the golf ball was going. So we looked at him 300 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 1: on video and we could just see that he was 301 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: putting the golf club in a position at the top 302 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: of the back swing. Um, that was very very difficult 303 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: for him to control. The back swing was very very long. Um. 304 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: He had a lot of you know, extending backwards, a 305 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: lot of curvature, UM in his spine, he had a 306 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: lot of you know, his leaning left at the top 307 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: of the back swing. And UM, I looked at his 308 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: golf swing and I and I said to his dad, 309 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: I said, listen, um, we we need to make some 310 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: serious changes here so your son doesn't get hurt. And 311 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: the father said, well, what do you mean. So I 312 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: said to the to the to the junior, I said, listen, 313 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get in trouble for for saying this, 314 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: but be honest with me when you go practice golf balls. 315 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: Does your back hurt? And you could see the kid, 316 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, made the nervous look to the dad. The 317 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: dad's kind of looking at the kid going, you know, 318 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: you never tell me you're hurt. Um, you never tell 319 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: me you're in pain. Um. And so the father said 320 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: to the son, listen, be honest, or are you in 321 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: pain when you hit golf balls? And the kid shook 322 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: his head and was like, yeah, I'm I'm I'm in 323 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: pain a lot of time. And he showed me exactly 324 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: where the pain is in his in his low back 325 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: and his mid back, and and he said, sometimes, you know, 326 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: if he has a day where he hits a lot 327 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: of golf balls on the weekend, goes and plays golf 328 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: for eighteen holes, Um, he struggles to sleep at night 329 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: because it's back hurt. And the kid's eleven years old, 330 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: and you know, golf should not be hurting his back. 331 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: So I think it's important that, um, you are honest 332 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: with the instructors that you're you're working with and say, 333 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: listen to my it's my injury history. That's what I've 334 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: been dealing with now. And then I think it's important 335 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: to to explain to the instructor. Listen, I've had some 336 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: lessons before. These are the things that I've done. If 337 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: you have had lessons before, Um, these are the things 338 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: I've worked on. Um, they worked, they didn't work. They 339 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: worked for a little while, then they didn't work. And 340 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: these are the reasons why they didn't work. And I 341 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: was unable to stick with him. I think a lot 342 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: of times, UM, students are looking, um, for golfers to 343 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: for instructors to somewhat have a magic bullet, uh, to 344 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: be able to come in take one golf lesson. Boom, 345 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: You're cured and everything's fine. Um, you as the player 346 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: are going to have a d n A, a signature. 347 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: Everybody swinging a golf club kind of has their own 348 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,239 Speaker 1: d n A, their own kind of signature of what 349 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: their swing does. And and so I think students are 350 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: looking at instructors to kind of change these signatures and 351 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: change these patterns. But a lot of times, Um, these 352 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: are very ingrained patterns. They're very ingrained motions. You know, 353 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: sometimes you've been playing golf, you know, ten, fifteen, sometimes 354 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: twenty years, and you're you're working on a lot of 355 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: the same movements, and you're doing a lot of the 356 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: same things. You know. They say that there's the cliche 357 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: that practice makes perfect, but practice can also make permanent. 358 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: So if you do the same thing over and over 359 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: and over again when you do come for a golf 360 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: lesson UM, that might not be a quick fix. It 361 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: might be a situation to where you might need to say, Okay, 362 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: as the instructor, listen, this is what you do. UM, 363 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: we're going to try and change some of this. But UM, 364 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: you know what you do is is is is a 365 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: difficult move, and we're going to try and make some 366 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: changes to help you offset that. But I do think 367 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: at times it's it's it's unrealistic to think that you 368 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: can come in UM and make massive change, just really 369 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: really quick. Now, if you're playing a lot of golf, 370 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: if you're playing UM competitive golf, UM, if you're practicing 371 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, three four or five, six, seven days a week, 372 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: if you're playing two, three, four or five times a week, 373 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: then I think change can be made quicker because you're 374 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: getting in more reps. But you've also got to remember 375 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: that going to a golf lesson UM for the first 376 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: time with a brand new instructor is very much like 377 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: going to a personal trainer and saying, listen, I'm out 378 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: of shape. It's January one. Uh, you know, I'm twenty 379 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: pounds overweight. UM, I want to try and get in shape, 380 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: and I really want to try and lose some weight. 381 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: What they're going to do is they're going to create 382 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: a plan for you. UM. They're going to create a 383 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: series of workouts and things that you can do over 384 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: an extended period of time. Because if you say to 385 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: a physical trainer on January one, January second, listen, i'mds overweight. UM. 386 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: I want to spend you know, basically all day with 387 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: you today, you know, three or four or five six 388 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: hours in the gym working out, doing all this stuff, 389 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: and hopefully I'm gonna be UM, I'm gonna lose weight 390 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: tomorrow and be in shape. Unfortunately, UM, it doesn't work 391 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: like that. So our job as instructors are to try 392 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: and say, two players, listen, Okay, let's figure out a 393 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: way that we could build a better pattern for you 394 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: and try and eliminate some of the things that that 395 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: you do. UM. Not specifically the way I teach. I 396 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: don't basically teach by UM numbers or by systems or theory. 397 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: I I look at what a player does individually, and 398 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: I say, Okay, what can I do to help this player? 399 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: UM swing the golf club better? And so that's where 400 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: I think, as the student, you've got to look um 401 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: at what your problems are. UM. One of my favorite 402 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: sports to play A UM, I play tennis. UM. I 403 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: love playing tennis. UM. I I read a lot, I 404 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: follow a lot about tennis. UM, I take tennis lessons, 405 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: and UM you know when I look for tennis instructors, UM, 406 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, I do my homework, I look at you 407 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: know what type of players they work with, what type 408 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: of theories they have. UM. You know my back hand 409 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: is not great. My four hands okay, but my back 410 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: hand isn't great. And UM I've been working with with 411 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: the tennis instructor that UM we've done a lot of 412 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: work on on my footwork. UM it has helped me 413 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: improve a lot of my strokes. But UM, I looked 414 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 1: at a tennis instructor and I kind of knew some 415 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: of the things that that he he did, and that's 416 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I chose him. UM. My 417 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: tennis game is a work in progress. Right. I don't 418 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: feel like when I go, UM take a one tennis 419 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: lessons on my ground strokes are immediately going to improve. UM, 420 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: because I do like tennis. I've I've bought a ball machine, 421 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: and so now I go take tennis lessons. Um, I 422 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: go have people that I hit with, but I also 423 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: go and get on the ball machine and work on 424 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: these kind of drills and and footworks um. So UM. 425 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: And I think that always really helps me as as 426 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: a golf instructor to go take, um a lesson in 427 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: another sport from someone else. UM. And it's a sport 428 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: that that I'm interested in. So let's take a short 429 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: break and we will be back right after this. All right, 430 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: let's get back to the interview. I think you have 431 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: to be patient. I think you have to have realistic goals. UM. 432 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: I think you want to try and look at your 433 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: golf swing and changing your golf swing and improving your 434 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: golf swing a little bit like trying to climb Mount Everest. Um, 435 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: You're at the bottom and you're going to try and 436 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: get to the top of a and the highest mountain 437 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: in the world. UM, You're not going to make it 438 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: by starting at the bottom and trying to climb to 439 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: the top. Um, you will fail every single time you 440 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: do that, what you've got to do is you've got 441 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: to get up, get to base camp, get acclimated. Then 442 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: you go to Camp one. Then you can go to 443 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: camp to get acclimated, get comfortable. Then you can go 444 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: to Camp three, get out, then you can go to 445 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: Camp four. So all along the line, you're you're doing 446 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: things in stages. You're doing things to where you can 447 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: you can climb in my mountain, you're trying to get 448 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: up the mountain safely, and you're trying to get up 449 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: the mountain with all of the UM supplies that you need, 450 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: and it's just impossible to do that all in one 451 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: go to just start at the bottom and try and 452 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: climb to the top. So I think it's important that 453 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: as as a student you look at okay, UM, there 454 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: might be some short term issues UM. And I think 455 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: one of the issues that that golfers have is they 456 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: go take golf lessons and UM and then they try 457 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: and take what they're working on in their golf lesson 458 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 1: straight out onto the golf course. UM. In an ideal world, 459 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: you would have some time time to work on on 460 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: on the changes, work on the things that you're going 461 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: to try and make um, you know, permanent in your 462 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: golf swing. But also you have to also then do 463 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: two separate things. You have to practice golf, which we 464 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: do on the driving range, and then when you go 465 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: play golf, you have to go play golf. You can't 466 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: go out and play golf swing. And I think a 467 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: lot of students that that that that struggle is they 468 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: go they take golf lessons and then what they try 469 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: and do is they try and go out on the 470 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: golf course and they're working on their golf swing. You 471 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: should be doing two things. Should be practicing and when, 472 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: and you should be playing. When you play, you should 473 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: be playing with whatever swing you've got. And if it's 474 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: a work in progress, it's a work in progress. But 475 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: you've still got to be able to go to the 476 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: golf course and try and score and try and play. 477 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: And that is the art of playing and executing. And 478 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: then there is the technical part, the technique, the swing thing. 479 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: You've heard me talk a lot about that if you're 480 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: a regular listen to the pod. The difference between technique 481 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: and execution. Um. And I think a lot of golfers 482 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: as well, UM, they try and do everything. Specifically players 483 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: that are going to compete. They're trying to do everything 484 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: in a vacuum right there, trying to make changes without playing. 485 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: And I always say to players that are trying to compete, 486 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: you know, they come in and they say, hey, I'm 487 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna try and make some changes. You know, I'm you know, 488 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: trying to get the first stage of of corn Ferry. 489 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to, you know, go to Asian Tour qualifying school, 490 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: so I want to try and make some changes to 491 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: become a better ball striker whatever. And a player will 492 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: come and then they'll say, you know what, I'm just 493 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: now going to shut everything down and work on my game. 494 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: And I'm always like, listen, I think it's important for 495 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: you to work on your game, but I think you 496 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: have to work on your game while you're playing golf. 497 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: You have to be able to do and you have 498 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: to do both. You can't just shut everything down practice 499 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: only and then hope that you're going to go play 500 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: and it's going to be fine. There's a difference between 501 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: playing golf and practicing golf, and I think playing golf 502 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: off is hugely, hugely important, and I think you want 503 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: to try and if you are going through some swing changes, 504 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: if you are going through some some lessons. Um. I 505 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: think it's important that you're able to take a lesson, 506 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: go practice, you know, to three a couple of times, 507 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: maybe go play nine holes, then come back and say 508 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: to the instructor that you're working with, Okay, I came 509 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: for this lesson. These are the things that we worked on. 510 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: I went ahead and did these things and worked on 511 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: these drills and felt like, you know, I was making 512 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: some progress. And then I went and played, and when 513 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: I played, this is what I saw. I saw this contact, 514 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: I saw this shape, I saw this miss. That then 515 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: allows you to to share that with the instructor that 516 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: you're working with, so that they can then say, okay, 517 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: based off of the stuff that we're trying to work 518 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: on in your golf swing, based off of what you 519 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: say is happening in practice, and based off of what 520 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: you tell me is happening in or when you're on 521 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: the golf course, then I can go ahead and say, okay, well, 522 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: these are things that we need to try and continue 523 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: to work on. Maybe we need to add this, maybe 524 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: you need to take a little bit of this away. 525 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: But I do think it's important that you just don't 526 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: shut everything down and just become a practice er, not 527 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: a player. The goal is to play better golf, right, 528 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: But what everybody does is they just spend an enormous 529 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: amount of time solely just on practicing, and they forget 530 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: that part of playing better golf is learning how to 531 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: play on the golf course, and you have to do 532 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: that regardless of what your golf swing looks like. Your 533 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: golf swing is always going to be in a state 534 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: of flux. It's always going to be fluid. There are 535 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: going to be days where you're hitting really good. There's 536 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: going to be days where you're not. But you still 537 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: have to play and have to be able to somewhat 538 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: compete and find a way to shoot a decent score 539 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: with the swing and the technique that you've got. Let's 540 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: take a quick break and we are back. I think 541 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: you want to ask as many questions as you can 542 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: in a golf lesson. Um, you should be asking if 543 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: if if an instructor is telling you to do something 544 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: and it doesn't make sense and you don't understand it, UM, 545 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: don't be embarrassed. Hey, listen, could you explain that better? 546 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: Could you explain that in a different way? Because I 547 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: don't really get what you're trying to get across here. 548 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of times UM students think that 549 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: instructors are going to be you know, get mad or 550 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: feel like you're questioning them. If any instructor that you're 551 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: working with UM doesn't like you asking questions, UM kind 552 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: of makes you feel, you know, somewhat ignorant or belittled 553 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: for asking questions and says, hey, no, no, just just 554 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: do what I tell you to do. You you need 555 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: to walk away from that and not go back UM. 556 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: Any theory, any position, any concept that a coach is 557 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: asking you to do as the play or they should 558 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: be able to draw you a picture, a very specific UM, 559 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: easy to follow, easy for you to understand, a good 560 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: idea of what they want you to do, and you 561 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: should be able to kind of spit that back at them. 562 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: I say that a lot of times. I'll say that 563 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: to a player. Okay, you know, we start off, we're 564 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: working on these things, we're working on these positions, we're 565 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: working on this type of move UM. And then I'll say, okay, 566 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: go ahead and repeat this back to me. Pretend like 567 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about golf, and you tell me 568 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: what you're working on with your instructor, so you give 569 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: it back to me and talk me through it. And 570 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: I think that opens up that dialogue for you as 571 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: the player and you and and certainly me as the coach, 572 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: to to figure out if there's a disconnect, if what 573 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying isn't making sense UM. So I think it's 574 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: important that you have that that good kind of UM 575 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: communication with the instructor you're working on UM. But they 576 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't be telling you to do things because that's what 577 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: they're telling you to do, and you shouldn't be asking 578 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: any questions. You should ask as many questions as possible. 579 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: I think it's important if you're going to take lessons 580 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: and you are serious about getting better UM, I would 581 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: keep a lesson journal. I would write down UM everything 582 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: that I was working on UM and take notes and 583 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: and have a really good idea UM. Hopefully you're working 584 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: with an instructor that UM can give you video to 585 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: your golf swing, giving you that video back from the 586 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: lesson with voice notes with voice over. I think that's 587 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: really really in help helpful for for you to have 588 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: a good understanding as as as the player, what you're 589 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: trying to do. But I do think it is important 590 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: as as the student to ask as many questions as possible, 591 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: and like I said, to have realistic expectations to say, Okay, listen, 592 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to this instructor for these things. These are 593 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: the things I'm trying to change. These are the ways 594 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: that I'm going to try and get better, UM, say 595 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: to the instructor at the beginning, listen, based off of 596 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: what you see, UM, be honest with me, give me 597 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: a timeline here on. You know how difficult you think 598 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: this is going to be to fix. Um, what are 599 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: some of the things that I can expect along the way? UM, 600 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: So that when I'm not taking a lesson from you, 601 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: what should I expect? UM? What should the miss be? 602 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: What should the good shot be? And I think if 603 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: you have a really good idea as the student of 604 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: what you're trying to do, what you want to do, 605 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: and you have someone that you're working with that can 606 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: draw you a really really clear defined concept and you know, 607 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: plan an outline on the direction you're going to try 608 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: and go, then I think you know you can get 609 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: better as as a student. UM. I think you have 610 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: to be patient, You have to be honest with yourself 611 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: as a student as to what your talent level is, UM, 612 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: if you were, you know, in that average golfer range. 613 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: And to me, the average golfers is pretty much the 614 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: majority of people playing golf that UM. Average golfers to 615 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: me are people that aren't trying to compete. Then they 616 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: might be playing in tournaments at their course, but they're not. 617 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: Their entire life isn't based on the competing part UM. 618 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: And so I think you need to have realistic expectations 619 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: and and say, Okay, if I really want to improve, 620 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 1: I'm willing maybe to take a couple of steps back. 621 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: I don't think you have to get worse before you 622 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: get better. UM, I don't believe that. I think you 623 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: can get better. I think it just takes time. And 624 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: and if you're willing to devote the time, and you 625 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: have the time to practice and try and embed and 626 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: implement some of the changes that you're working on, then 627 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: I think you can make changes. But UM, you know 628 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: the keys for me, for lesson takers, do your homework. 629 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: Have realistic expectations, UM, Have realistic expectations based off of 630 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: how much you can play, how much you can practice, 631 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: Have realistic expectations based off of UM, what your body 632 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: can and can't do what your ages? What's your flexibility is? UM? 633 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: You know, are you working out, are you moving a 634 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: lot um in a non golf way on a regular basis. 635 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: Those are all things that are going to hinder but 636 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: also help your progression as a player. UM. But like 637 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: I said, UM, I'm very very lucky that people UM 638 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: choose to come take golf lessons from me. I take 639 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: it really really seriously. And if you are going to 640 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: take lessons, like I said, do your homework, UM, figure 641 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: out what you want to try and accomplish, and have 642 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: really really specific to find clear goals as to what 643 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: you want to try and do with your golf swing, 644 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: what you want to try and get out of the 645 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: golf lesson and convey that to the instructor and and 646 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: hopefully there will point you in the right direction. UM. 647 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: Be patient, UM and hopefully UM, some of this information 648 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: helps and and and maybe UM you start thinking about 649 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 1: taking lessons in a different way. I want to thank 650 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: everybody for listening. Some of a bich comes to you 651 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: every Wednesday. We will see you next week.