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Speaker 1: few weeks, think that herschel Walker has qualified either personally

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Speaker 1: in the U. S. Senate. And whether you're talking about

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Speaker 1: this woman's allegations, the other woman's allegations, the constant misstatements,

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Speaker 1: the you know, statements on now his tax records about

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Speaker 1: where his primary residence is, those things all come into play.

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Speaker 1: And of course who's going to get out in this

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Speaker 1: And it's not going to decide the Senate leadership or

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Speaker 1: the Senate who's in control. It's going to be the

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Speaker 1: most interested in people who are paying attention. And that

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Speaker 1: may make a difference here, and so I would still

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Speaker 1: give the slight edge to Warnock, but it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a battle to get out the vote from people

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Speaker 1: who are exhausted by this you know, I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about Warnocks commercial. If we don't decide this in the

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Speaker 1: mid term, we're gonna have to spend you know, Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: with herschel Walker here. We are, here, we are, So

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Speaker 1: can we at least put this all down for Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: I know we'll be back to it probably on Friday

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Speaker 1: when everyone's punching each other at the best Buy or

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Speaker 1: the Walmart or whatever they do on Black Friday. If

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Speaker 1: we still do that, But let's put it down for

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Speaker 1: a day and let me thank you Genie and let

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Speaker 1: me thank you Rick for being the best panel in

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Speaker 1: the business and always providing such wonderful analysis and companionship

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Speaker 1: for all of our listeners going home. So cheers to

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Speaker 1: you two, and thank you. Happy Thanksgiving. Absolutely Bloomberg Politics contributors,

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Speaker 1: they make our signature panel. I'm Joe Matthew and Washington

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Speaker 1: and something special ahead. We're gonna visit the National Air

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Speaker 1: and Space Museum and talk to their new relatively new director,

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Speaker 1: Christopher Brown, a former top gun pilot, and it's in

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Speaker 1: charge of reimaging the whole thing. Half of it just

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Speaker 1: reopen and we get a sneak peak next. I'm Joe Matthew,

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Speaker 1: this is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg. So long with Joe

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Speaker 1: Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. So, the Smithsonian Air and Space

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Speaker 1: Museum on the Nash Hittle Mall is just reopened, having

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Speaker 1: been totally shut down from massive renovations for months. About

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Speaker 1: half the job is done now with new exhibits and

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Speaker 1: an emphasis on diverse voices that have helped to advance

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Speaker 1: air and space exploration. I was lucky to sit down

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Speaker 1: with Christopher Brown, the Air and Space Museum's executive director

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Speaker 1: of former top gun pilot, former director of Dulles Airport

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Speaker 1: and Reagan National Airport here in Washington, d C. To

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Speaker 1: learn more about the project and get an up close

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Speaker 1: look at the job underway. Well, I think the bigger task,

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, is re envisioning this national treasure for the future.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's we know it's impact. You've just said

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Speaker 1: that it's influenced you. I came here in nineteen seventy seven,

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Speaker 1: connection and that that led to my professional life and aviation.

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Speaker 1: So we know the power of the place. Not as

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Speaker 1: very important. The level of stress might be approaching that. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting to think that this wing has been closed

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Speaker 1: since before COVID. You said when it reopened recently. The

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Speaker 1: real measure of success will be when visitors return home

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Speaker 1: and say, you must see this. Is that already happening. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: we're getting about five thousand visitors a day, and we've

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Speaker 1: had really good feedback both through the media and through

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Speaker 1: our visitors, and I think part of it is because

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Speaker 1: it's forty almost the artifacts in the museum today are

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Speaker 1: here for the first time, and we're able to expand

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Speaker 1: the storytelling in a way that The other measure of

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Speaker 1: success is we we hope that everybody coming into this museum,

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Speaker 1: however they present, whatever they look like, wherever they come from,

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Speaker 1: they will be able to see themselves in the stories

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Speaker 1: and the artifacts, just as I did in It's not

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Speaker 1: lost on me that one of the big talkers here

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Speaker 1: is this Xing fighter from the Star Wars movies. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: of history the way some of these other exhibits are.

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Speaker 1: But it speaks to the vision that you have in

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Speaker 1: it starts with an idea and that there's that moment

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Speaker 1: So for instance, if you go into our Destination Moon

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Speaker 1: gallery or tell the Story of Apollo, you'll see games

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Speaker 1: and some of the things that the young astronauts were

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Speaker 1: influenced by his children. So we know the iconic value

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Speaker 1: some heat for the X Wings. People said it's never flown,

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Speaker 1: it's why is it near in space Museum? And I

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Speaker 1: I remind folks, I said, well, we have six thousand

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Speaker 1: paintings that never flew. So it's really a question of

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Speaker 1: meeting our audiences where they are. What is it that

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Speaker 1: connects to them, that resonates, and we know that the

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Speaker 1: power of the X Wing fighter does that for a

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Speaker 1: lot of our audience. Well, you've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: competition for eyeballs and and interest, right you you're trying

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Speaker 1: to appeal to kids who are on TikTok and social media,

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Speaker 1: and have the attention span of a ten second video.

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Speaker 1: So I'm guessing this actually helps the bridge that divide.

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Speaker 1: It does, and I think that what we really hold

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Speaker 1: dear at the Smithsonian and certainly here at this museum,

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Speaker 1: is a commitment to authenticity and accuracy, so that when

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Speaker 1: you come here, whether it's in person or virtually, this

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Speaker 1: is the real deal. And so sometimes some of the

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Speaker 1: other media and influencers in our lives can't lay that claim,

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Speaker 1: and so it's really important that we hold it at

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Speaker 1: because it's not just the artifacts and the and how

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Speaker 1: real they are and authentic, it's the stories, the people's

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Speaker 1: stories behind them. There are amazing stories all around us,

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Speaker 1: including that of the Apollo mission. The Apollo eleven capsule

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Speaker 1: is something that reminds us of the harsh environment that

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Speaker 1: is space as you and I sit here and Orion

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Speaker 1: Space capsule is orbiting the Moon. How much do current

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Speaker 1: events drive your vision for the museum? Well, very much, so,

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Speaker 1: I mean very Folks often think of museums having a

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Speaker 1: retrospective look, and so it begs the question why is

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Speaker 1: why do we have a gallery dedicated to the Apollo missions?

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Speaker 1: What's its relevance? The why and other than the fact

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Speaker 1: that it was just an amazing story. You know, the

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Speaker 1: President just a few months ago, I think, used the

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Speaker 1: term moonshot, So what is moonshot me into a generation

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Speaker 1: today that was not alive during Apollo. Most of the

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Speaker 1: people coming into that gallery today will not have been

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Speaker 1: alive to see the launches of the Saturn fives and

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Speaker 1: the Apollo era. And I think the relevance and the

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Speaker 1: reason we tell that Apollo story really gets down to

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Speaker 1: four elements. One is, you know, to take on a

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Speaker 1: big challenge and to solve problems, you need a strong vision.

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Speaker 1: Certainly Kennedy articulated that you need a commitment of national

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Speaker 1: resource fousand American it's millions of dollars working on that project.

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Speaker 1: You need a tolerance for risk, You have to be

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Speaker 1: willing to take chances. And then you have to have

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Speaker 1: that human ingenuity that I think is often underestimated. And

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Speaker 1: when you put those things together, what the Apollo missions demonstrated,

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Speaker 1: you can do incredible things. So fast forward, how does

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Speaker 1: that play out with climate change and curing cancer and

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Speaker 1: some of these seemingly intractable problems. I walked through that

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Speaker 1: gallery and say, no, we can sell problems a seven

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Speaker 1: year project I believe in total, Yes, this is a

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Speaker 1: huge undertaking. Does it have a price tag? It does.

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Speaker 1: This is an investment both by the citizens of this country.

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Speaker 1: Their taxes have paid for seven nine million dollars of

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Speaker 1: rebuilding this building, but importantly, the actual galleries, the look

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Speaker 1: and feel like this gallery is financed privately and through

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Speaker 1: our corporate and individual benefactors. I'm compelled by your personal

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Speaker 1: story or career year fifteen traps more than fifteen hundred

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Speaker 1: hours flying the F fourteen Tomcat, this iconic fighter plane.

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Speaker 1: You went on to be the manager of Dullest Airport,

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Speaker 1: Reagan National Airport, the director here at the Air and

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Speaker 1: Space Museum. But you've said in conversations that in flight

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Speaker 1: school you experienced something called I believe it's a flight down.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, that you actually failed the equivalent of

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Speaker 1: a certain exercise that you needed to pass in your training.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder how much that influenced your approach to

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Speaker 1: your career or your trajectory after that. Well, it's very

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Speaker 1: humbling to be told that you failed in something you've

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Speaker 1: worked hard at. But I think what it does is

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Speaker 1: it's a real test of character to decide you know

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Speaker 1: how invested are you in what it is you're doing,

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Speaker 1: And just with Exploration with Apollo, with all these stories,

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Speaker 1: there was failure along the way, and you learn from

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Speaker 1: your failures. It's always important not to repeat the failures,

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Speaker 1: but to learn from them, but to think that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do incredible things, either at a level like this museum,

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Speaker 1: land a person on the moon, or in my case,

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Speaker 1: learn to fly on aircraft on and off a carrier.

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Speaker 1: Failure is part of that process. Big thanks to Christopher Brown,

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Speaker 1: director of the Air and Space Museum here in Washington,

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Speaker 1: which you must see now that it's beginning to reopen.

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Speaker 1: And on this day before the holiday, with National Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: Turkey's chocolate and chip having been pardoned by President Biden,

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Speaker 1: we remember the White House tradition that dates back to

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Speaker 1: President John Kennedy, the great Turkey pardon you know as

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Speaker 1: the University of Delaware, man, I'm partial Blue Hens. Today

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk turkey. I never promised you God. This

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Speaker 1: turkey represents America's forty five million to piece who will

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Speaker 1: begin making their irreplaceable contribution to our Thanksgiving celebration. So

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Speaker 1: take it easy, Turkey. We're just here to serve you.

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Speaker 1: Our guest of honor looks a little nervous. Nobody's tolding

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Speaker 1: yet that I'm going to give him a pardoner. I

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Speaker 1: know some folks think this tradition is a little silly.

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Speaker 1: I do not disagree. I've got to listen to my critics,

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Speaker 1: UH say I'm often too soft on turkeys. I am

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Speaker 1: pleased to announce that today's lucky bird and guests of

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Speaker 1: Anna is named Peas, along with his alternate named Carrots.

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Speaker 1: The children will understand that who better help celebrate the

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Speaker 1: holiday in which they break the bread for two turkeys

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Speaker 1: name peanut, butter and Jelly. This turkey is going to

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Speaker 1: be called Flyer, and the backup verde name is Friar.

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Speaker 1: This year's lucky bird corn, and just in case we

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Speaker 1: needed him copy, this year's national turkey goes by the

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Speaker 1: name of Apple, and his feathered understudy is appropriately named Cider.

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Speaker 1: Even though Peas and Carrots have received a presidential pardon,

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Speaker 1: I have warned them that House Democrats are likely to

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Speaker 1: issue them both subpoenas totis the turkey of the United States. Folks,

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Speaker 1: Turkey is infrastructure. Peanut Brutter and Dreill are gonna help

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Speaker 1: build black the butter ball. As Thanksgiving is a special

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Speaker 1: day for turkeys, I guess, probably for the most part,

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Speaker 1: not a very good one when you think about it.

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Speaker 1: The first turkey to dodge the White House dinner table

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Speaker 1: received unofficial clemency when President abrah Am Lincoln's son Tad

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Speaker 1: begged his father to spare his new friend. His son,

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Speaker 1: Tad grew so attached to the turkey that he named

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Speaker 1: him Jack, and President Lincoln had no choice but to

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Speaker 1: give Jack the full run of the White House. Jack

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Speaker 1: was here actually for some monumental events. On election Day

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Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty four, when Mr Lincoln was running for

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Speaker 1: re election, a special polling place was actually set up

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Speaker 1: right here on the grounds of the White House so

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Speaker 1: that the soldiers could vote well. Jack the turkey actually

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Speaker 1: strutted in front of some of the would be voters

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Speaker 1: the broken line. Lincoln asked his son, why is your

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Speaker 1: turkey at the polls? Does he vote without hesitation? Tad

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Speaker 1: said he's not old enough yet. Tomorrow, forty five million

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Speaker 1: turkeys will make the ultimate sacrifice for America's feast, but

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Speaker 1: not this one. I'm granting this turkey a permanent reprieve.

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Speaker 1: After many years and the coop. He's on his way

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Speaker 1: to a farm and ViRGE Enya to bask in the sun,

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Speaker 1: collect his hard earned pension, enjoy his golden years. And

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Speaker 1: that's one less Turkey in Washington. Happy Thanksgiving,