Speaker 1: Anytime the Dodgers say it's not a big deal, we
Speaker 1: don't see that player for the next two months. I get,
Speaker 1: I really do, But in this case, I think I
Speaker 1: think the Dodgers were simply just airing on the side
Speaker 1: of caution.
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Speaker 2: ticket talk about series recap. First things. First, let's talk
Speaker 2: about Mookie, who has been on a tear recently offensively,
Speaker 2: but but perhaps more of the bigger question Katie scratched
Speaker 2: before the game, what can you tell us?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked to Dave Roberts after Wednesday. It's Wednesday's loss,
Speaker 1: where he said, you know, we just kind of flared
Speaker 1: up for Mookie's wrists. He found out about one o'clock
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. They don't think it's anything serious. They expect
Speaker 1: him to be back in the lineup for the first
Speaker 1: of four against the Padres today. Now I know what
Speaker 1: Dodger fans are going to say. Anytime the Dodgers say
Speaker 1: it's not a big deal, we don't see that player
Speaker 1: for the next two months. I get it, I really do.
Speaker 1: But in this case, I think I think the Dodgers
Speaker 1: were simply just airing on the side of caution. There
Speaker 1: was no reason to push Mooki yesterday. I don't want
Speaker 1: to suggest that the Dodgers were exactly punting yesterday, but
Speaker 1: they wrapped up the series there in the middle of
Speaker 1: thirteen in a row, and I think it was pretty
Speaker 1: much a designated rest day for a lot of those guys.
Speaker 1: So I expect to see Mookie Bess in the lineup today.
Speaker 1: If not, I don't think Dodgers fans will be surprised.
Speaker 1: But my understanding is that it was not that big
Speaker 1: of a deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not terribly worried about Mookie.
Speaker 4: Then again, we weren't terribly worried about Will Smith until
Speaker 4: his head fell off or whatever exactly happened to him.
Speaker 4: But I will be the one to fall on the sword.
Speaker 4: Yes yesterday was a punt game, and it became a
Speaker 4: punt game after about the first pitch from Charlie Barnes
Speaker 4: that said, not all.
Speaker 3: Punt games are built different.
Speaker 4: You know, we could think back to a lot of
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty four postseason, Brent Honeywell's punt game where
Speaker 4: he just sat in there and took it against the Mets,
Speaker 4: and how much that recharged the Dodgers. You could also
Speaker 4: think to in a way, Walker Buehler's twenty twenty four
Speaker 4: punt game against the Padres that started a long scoreless
Speaker 4: streak for the Padres. Dodgers moving on, so on and
Speaker 4: so forth, got us a little bit in trouble with
Speaker 4: the organization because we were upset about a punt game
Speaker 4: in the World Series. Of course, we end up talking
Speaker 4: to Dave Roberts about him and every once in a
Speaker 4: while it's okay to have these kind of games.
Speaker 3: Now, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: The computers didn't say for everybody that hates the computers.
Speaker 4: They didn't say Hey, go out there and lose this game.
Speaker 4: There was intent to win. Just wasn't their day their day,
Speaker 4: you know. JT Gin awesome former Dodgers draft pick didn't
Speaker 4: sign here, was awesome against the Dodgers and the end
Speaker 4: of a long Roadie.
Speaker 3: They were happy to get out of there.
Speaker 4: And either of you guys that want to take this
Speaker 4: so you know, actually I'll throw to you on this one, Alana.
Speaker 3: You know, we know how much those those.
Speaker 4: Type of bullpen games, like, yeah, the line is not
Speaker 4: sexy for Charlie Barnes, but damn does that clubhouse appreciate
Speaker 4: what they did?
Speaker 2: Twelve twelve, The Dodgers have a twelve game lead in
Speaker 2: me and omore. Yeah, you know, sometimes you just need
Speaker 2: a breather, right, and sometimes you just have to know
Speaker 2: the role of what you are. And Charlie Barnes was
Speaker 2: in there to wear it. That happens sometimes. We knew
Speaker 2: it was going to be a bullpen game there. It
Speaker 2: is twelve game lead in the division, they are in
Speaker 2: first place. They're seven and three in their last ten,
Speaker 2: fifty six and thirty one. I don't mind these types
Speaker 2: of games at all. They have to play for the
Speaker 2: long game, right, It's not just about game whatever it
Speaker 2: was yesterday. I mean, they're fifty six and thirty one,
Speaker 2: so what is that eighty nine? It's not just about
Speaker 2: game number eighty nine. It's about one sixty two and
Speaker 2: we're over getting into the postseason. So hey, I'm alright
Speaker 2: with it. It's fine. Sometimes you're going to have those,
Speaker 2: and it's much better when you have a twelve game
Speaker 2: late in the division than when you're scraping and crying
Speaker 2: trying to get into the postseason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want I want to dive more into that
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 4: Was the I think either the longest road trip second
Speaker 4: longest road trip the team. I mean, up to this point,
Speaker 4: it's the longest one, Katie. They went eight and two
Speaker 4: on this roadie, including the Charlie Barnes game.
Speaker 3: Fifty six and.
Speaker 4: Thirty one overall in the division, twenty five games. Sorry,
Speaker 4: the record overall twenty five games, over five hundred and
Speaker 4: twelve game league, Like Alta said.
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: And you know, does it get difficult trying to you know,
Speaker 4: cover this team. You you have to cover this team
Speaker 4: a lot more professionally than I ever have. I wonder
Speaker 4: because you know, every once in a while, we could
Speaker 4: make up storylines or whatever. You can get lean into
Speaker 4: the clickbait if you need to. A former Dodger retired
Speaker 4: or something like that. Now, all of a sudden, you
Speaker 4: have a team that's just really, really good. What are
Speaker 4: you supposed to do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question. And we joke all the
Speaker 1: time the Dodgers are so boring and they like it
Speaker 1: that way. You know, I'm certainly not bored covering the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's not like we're sitting here. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's July second. We have ten games left before the
Speaker 1: All Star break. All ten games for the Dodgers are
Speaker 1: going to be at home against NL West opponents. They
Speaker 1: can essentially all but officially lock up this division before
Speaker 1: the All Star Break. And I get it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not like Weroworth here in a jam packed NL East,
Speaker 1: where all a sudden, the Phillies have risen from the
Speaker 1: dead and it's a competition between them and the Braves
Speaker 1: where every game matters. The Dodgers have the luxury of
Speaker 1: being able to take a game off for the long haul.
Speaker 1: Everything Alana just said about the Charlie Barnes game and
Speaker 1: saving the bullpen was spot on. It's exactly right for
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two plus game season that the
Speaker 1: Dodgers will play. Sometimes you just have to take a
Speaker 1: breather and you do kind of punt it away. It's
Speaker 1: for the long haul.
Speaker 5: So is it boring?
Speaker 1: I mean, we have Showyo Tani Yamamoto Sasaki just alone.
Speaker 5: Those starts are entertaining for me. We have the trade
Speaker 5: deadline coming up about a month away. That's always fun.
Speaker 1: Where I'm a little concerned is like the dog days
Speaker 1: come August. But then you think about all these guys
Speaker 1: coming back, Snell Glass. Now, perhaps Key k Evan Phillips
Speaker 1: should be back before the break, Edmund Diaz, He's going
Speaker 1: to face live hitters this weekend. So yeah, is it
Speaker 1: boring from a competitive spot, Sure, I can understand why
Speaker 1: that word is used, but you got to figure out
Speaker 1: angles and as long as Dalton Rushing is on this team,
Speaker 1: it won't be boring.
Speaker 5: So we speaking of that.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Dalton Rushing, a Will Smith update, what can
Speaker 2: you say about that, Katie? Because Dave Roberts did say
Speaker 2: that he did not anticipate Will Smith being back prior
Speaker 2: to the All Star break, which means Dalton Rushing is
Speaker 2: even more important. It means Robinson is even more important.
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
Speaker 1: I mean it goes to why most fans and I
Speaker 1: mentioned yesterday, were very skeptical about Mookie Pets's wrisk forness. Right,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers downplay their injuries, that's okay, but this one,
Speaker 1: I really do think they were caught off guard by
Speaker 1: the length. I think Will Smith as well. But the
Speaker 1: good news is I'm not at all suggesting that they're
Speaker 1: just taking it easy with Will Smith.
Speaker 5: Obviously he wants to be back.
Speaker 1: The good news is is that with Dalton Rushing and
Speaker 1: Chuckie Robinson, they may not be the superstar names that
Speaker 1: Dodgers fans don't expect, but that battery duo is still
Speaker 1: better than fifty percent of the production of any other team,
Speaker 1: So I understand it. You can really maximize the Dodgers'
Speaker 1: potential behind the plate with Will Smith and Dalton Rushing.
Speaker 1: I know Chucky Robinson his role was essentially catch a
Speaker 1: date in front of a.
Speaker 5: Night game or vice versa, and lay down a bunt.
Speaker 1: But the Dodgers are okay with the production they're getting
Speaker 1: from their catchers right now. In July, with the twelve
Speaker 1: game lead and the best record in baseball, and can
Speaker 1: afford to be patient with Will Smith so he doesn't
Speaker 1: rush back and further injured what could be a serious thing.
Speaker 1: You never want to play around with neck back injuries,
Speaker 1: so they'd rather err on the side of caution and
Speaker 1: wait till Will is totally symptom free. And if that
Speaker 1: means buying him an extra week building in the All
Speaker 1: Star break, they're okay doing that because they feel like
Speaker 1: the production is sustainable. You look around what the Dodgers
Speaker 1: lineup is doing lately. I tend to agree everybody wants.
Speaker 5: Will Smith back, I get it.
Speaker 1: But what Dalton Rushing is doing and Chuckie Robinson and
Speaker 1: Dewey is doing is that little combination is just fine.
Speaker 1: And this is a big opportunity for Dalton to continue growing.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure we'll have some questions in the chat
Speaker 1: about it, but all eyes more than usual are going
Speaker 1: to be on show. Hey and Dalton Friday against the
Speaker 1: Padres because they'll be their first start together since that
Speaker 1: little fiasco in Minnesota, and this is a big growing opportunity.
Speaker 1: Talking around the clubhouse with some veterans, a story we'll
Speaker 1: have out in the Athletic tomorrow about how Dalton's continuing
Speaker 1: to grow. He doesn't get this experience without a little
Speaker 1: bit of runway here. So if you're looking for a
Speaker 1: silver lining, it's Dalton rushing can have a chance to
Speaker 1: take a step forward, both physically and mentally.
Speaker 5: Hopefully Will Smith is back at the end of the break.
Speaker 2: Going back to what you were saying about it's never
Speaker 2: boring cover this team. I want to know what you
Speaker 2: think about the fact that they do have such a
Speaker 2: gigantic lead. I remember we had a conversation with Dino
Speaker 2: Ebel about the fact that you want to play meaningful
Speaker 2: teams because if you have the competition and the adversity
Speaker 2: early on, then you've really faced everything over the course
Speaker 2: of the season. Right now, they're running away with this thing,
Speaker 2: right and that has always been the goal for this team.
Speaker 2: The first goal of the year is to win the division.
Speaker 2: They're barring something catastrophic that's going to happen. So that
Speaker 2: being said, I guess it's a very long way to say.
Speaker 2: Can a lead be too large?
Speaker 1: That's a great question, and I think with the team.
Speaker 1: Every team is different. So while the Dodgers' core is
Speaker 1: it's the same. It's the same players that have won
Speaker 1: this last two World Series. Each team and the makeup
Speaker 1: within a clubhouse is different, and if this is a
Speaker 1: completely inexperienced clubhouse, I could see why that might be
Speaker 1: more of a concern. But this core has done this before.
Speaker 1: There is a ton of experience. So when you're looking
Speaker 1: at maybe the younger guys like Dalton, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: like an Alex Freeland that doesn't have a ton of experience,
Speaker 1: that might be different. But the overall core of this
Speaker 1: club knows what it's like to kind.
Speaker 5: Of turn it on in October.
Speaker 1: And there's something to be said about playing meaningful games
Speaker 1: all season long. You kind of want the anticipation in
Speaker 1: September because the playoffs are all about who gets hot
Speaker 1: at the right time, especially now that they're expanded.
Speaker 5: So I can buy.
Speaker 1: Into that, But I think that's a problem that you
Speaker 1: look at down the road, because, like you said, a
Speaker 1: lot of party number one is to win the division.
Speaker 1: Priorty number two is to lock down and buy, and
Speaker 1: you never know what teams are going to look like
Speaker 1: in September, so a team could go on a heater.
Speaker 1: We saw that in the American League last year. With
Speaker 1: the with the Guardians, right or the Tigers. One of
Speaker 1: them blew it, one of them came in. Uh So
Speaker 1: just never know.
Speaker 2: I don't really Yeah, Guardians on the heat, Tigers blew it.
Speaker 1: Right, and now I don't see that happening in this division.
Speaker 1: But you just it's hard to predict what teams are
Speaker 1: going to look like in September minus Los Angeles. Uh
Speaker 1: And but with this core, I'm really not concerned as
Speaker 1: long as anyone stays healthy or everyone's healthy.
Speaker 4: Now for me, when we're having this conversation, Alana, I
Speaker 4: do think back to I always have that fear of
Speaker 4: the twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three seasons where.
Speaker 3: They did have that ability to coast.
Speaker 4: I mean, they had the division locked up early early
Speaker 4: in September, and then they got their asses handed to
Speaker 4: them by the Diamondbacks and before that the Padres, and
Speaker 4: I mean thankfully that happened, because that's kind of what
Speaker 4: spurred forward, what moved forward, Like ef it, we're gonna
Speaker 4: spend all the money and we're gonna go get show Hey,
Speaker 4: which is always gonna be the plan when he became
Speaker 4: a free agent.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get Show Hey.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get Glass now we're gonna also get Yamamoto
Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff. But I think of
Speaker 4: just I wouldn't say the complacency. And I see some
Speaker 4: people in the chat mentioning that word complacency. And we
Speaker 4: are gonna get to the chat shortly in the next segment,
Speaker 4: So guys keep dropping in those those questions, comments, all
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: You do.
Speaker 4: Worry about that switch. We have talked about a lot,
Speaker 4: riz When do you flip the switch back on? When
Speaker 4: do you start to coast a little bit too much?
Speaker 4: In August in September, you could have a question about
Speaker 4: the what twenty seventeen team end of August into the
Speaker 4: start of September, they lost like seventeen of twenty one
Speaker 4: games before turning it back on, making to a World series,
Speaker 4: getting cheated out of a fair fight in a World series.
Speaker 3: We don't need to talk about that.
Speaker 4: But flipping the switch off, maybe sometimes that switch doesn't
Speaker 4: flip back on. And you know, I guess right now
Speaker 4: what you're playing for is trying to somehow get to
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixteen, one hundred and seventeen wins. If
Speaker 4: that is you know what tickles your pickle. But I
Speaker 4: do want to see the Dodgers playing meaningful games against
Speaker 4: teams that are in the hunt late in the season.
Speaker 4: So I do have I have concerns about running away.
Speaker 3: With the n West. As fun as it is to
Speaker 3: say I have.
Speaker 2: Concerns, I don't only because of what Katie was saying
Speaker 2: about experience. This is not a young roster. This is
Speaker 2: not a roster that has not been through these trials
Speaker 2: and tribulations before or lack thereof. Rather, this is a
Speaker 2: roster that has expectations to go to the World Series
Speaker 2: and win the World Series. And yes, you can't flip
Speaker 2: it on and off in baseball. And I will say
Speaker 2: this no matter what though, regardless if the Dodgers were
Speaker 2: tied in the division at the end of the regular
Speaker 2: season and had a Game one sixty three play in,
Speaker 2: or whether they have a fifty eight game lead in
Speaker 2: the division, it all matters on who's on your roster
Speaker 2: at the time that the world SERI or excuse me,
Speaker 2: the postseason starts. Who's healthy and who's you know, who's
Speaker 2: playing the best baseball? But moreover than that, who is
Speaker 2: healthy at the time are we going to have Blake snellback?
Speaker 2: At that point, are we going to have, you know,
Speaker 2: a healthy Yamamoto. I know he's healthy now. But regardless
Speaker 2: of what happens over the course of the season, right,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter to me. All they have to do
Speaker 2: is win the division by one game and that that
Speaker 2: crosses that off of their list. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 2: it's by you know, fifty games or one game. Just
Speaker 2: win it and then to Katie's point, get the buye.
Speaker 2: That's your next goal. But you have to be healthy
Speaker 2: and you have to be playing good baseball out that time.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't concern me because the Dodgers have the
Speaker 2: same goal no matter what, whether they win it by
Speaker 2: a billion games or they won it by one game.
Speaker 2: This is a team that is built for October period.
Speaker 3: That they are that they are, and I do agree that.
Speaker 4: The first thing I'll say is the fact that they
Speaker 4: have been there and done that. They've learned how to
Speaker 4: play with the five day layoff, you know, between a series,
Speaker 4: they learn how to play in a wildcard series and win.
Speaker 4: So yeah, the experience, the fact that they've been there
Speaker 4: and done that, that's huge for this ball club. We
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Speaker 4: A proper Q and a segment, I guess we can say,
Speaker 4: and let's jump into the chat here. Of course, people
Speaker 4: have some thoughts about the punt and all of this
Speaker 4: kind of stuff from yesterday's game. Our friend Richie Flores,
Speaker 4: we got him a couple of times in here saying
Speaker 4: I understand why Dave punted yesterday. Wasting Otani against the
Speaker 4: A's would not have been good Padres come in limping
Speaker 4: time to bury the padres.
Speaker 3: It's the bigger picture. I guess that's much of a question,
Speaker 3: but a comment.
Speaker 2: See, that's why I think we should stop calling it punting.
Speaker 2: Not because I got in trouble when I did that,
Speaker 2: but moreover, it's like, it's you have to play the
Speaker 2: long game, right, you have to look at the big picture.
Speaker 2: Dave is not just managing for game eighty nine. Dave
Speaker 2: is managing for one sixty two. He knows his players better,
Speaker 2: he knows you know, the man has yet to make
Speaker 2: a move that has backfired in recent postseasons. Right, and again,
Speaker 2: this is why the team is put together is for
Speaker 2: the postseason. So it's not punting. It's more of like,
Speaker 2: all right, big picture, how is this going to help
Speaker 2: us in the long run. How is this going to
Speaker 2: help us win as many games as possible and go
Speaker 2: deep into the postseason. It's a big puzzle. It's a
Speaker 2: big puzzle to put together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a good point there about show hey not
Speaker 1: starting against the A's what if we talked about all
Speaker 1: season long with Otani making sure he gets at least
Speaker 1: six days rest. I mean, they crafted a whole rotation
Speaker 1: around this man, and it would be the first time
Speaker 1: that he wasn't able to do that this season because
Speaker 1: the Dodgers are playing so many games in a row thirteen,
Speaker 1: I believe. So you push show Hey back, you give
Speaker 1: him some time to rest recover. There's not going to
Speaker 1: be a lot of recovery heading into the All Star break.
Speaker 1: This all has moving parts, moving pieces. A game like
Speaker 1: yesterday is going to happen to every team in baseball
Speaker 1: at least a couple times.
Speaker 5: Thtarughout the season.
Speaker 1: That the Dodgers can do it and still come across
Speaker 1: with the best record in baseball, a significant winning row trip.
Speaker 1: All of this, to me is just water under the bridge.
Speaker 1: You can reset the bullpen ahead of four games against
Speaker 1: the Padres, who got beat up yesterday in Chicago and
Speaker 1: they have not won a game since Friday's victory against
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. So opportunity again to take advantage of against
Speaker 1: one of your division rivals, rush show Hey, keep them
Speaker 1: healthy and go from there. To me, I don't really
Speaker 1: think that punt game is that big of a deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I guess it's also depending on how you
Speaker 4: define punt. Everybody's gonna have a different definition for what
Speaker 4: that game was on Wednesday? Is I think you said
Speaker 4: it perfect? That was his game eighty nine. I didn't
Speaker 4: care nothing, actually know if it was eighty nine. Math
Speaker 4: is not my strong suit, but it was hashtag math baby. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't care. It elicited no feelings of anger. I
Speaker 4: was tired, but that had nothing to do with the game.
Speaker 4: But anyways, Dodgers are gonna lose games. And shout out
Speaker 4: Charlie Barnes for picking up bunch of innings.
Speaker 5: We shout out Charlie Barnes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, legendary Charlie Barnes.
Speaker 4: Question here coming from Sammy boys Smith in the chat.
Speaker 4: We'll throw this to Wu Diaz and Phillips doing rehab soon.
Speaker 3: What are their jobs now? One's already on rehab. Done,
Speaker 3: but go ahead, Katie.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Evan Phillips through another inning for triple A yesterday.
Speaker 1: We asked Dave Roberts when we could see Phillips. It's
Speaker 1: all but sure he'll be back before the All Star breaks.
Speaker 1: So sometime during this homestand he's checked all the boxes,
Speaker 1: he's gone back to back, he's gone multi innings, he's
Speaker 1: coming back from Tommy Johns. So Dodgers want to be
Speaker 1: extra careful. Obviously, this is someone they think is going
Speaker 1: to be a big help for them in the second half.
Speaker 1: So the last kind of box for Evan Phillips to
Speaker 1: check is to simply just be a reliever. And you're
Speaker 1: probably like, what does that even mean. It's how a
Speaker 1: lot of these rehab assignments are scripted.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Guys know exactly coming in, how long they're going to
Speaker 1: be on for, what their schedule is. Are they going
Speaker 1: to go an inning on Wednesday and then two on
Speaker 1: Friday when as they're back to back when I got
Speaker 1: to go up and down? So that's all scripted. What
Speaker 1: they want Evan Phillips to do is be ready at
Speaker 1: a moment's notice. So that's what the Dodgers mean by
Speaker 1: be a reliever. Just you know, he's going to come
Speaker 1: in without a plan and be ready to pitch when
Speaker 1: the game dictates it. He did that yesterday, so cross
Speaker 1: into their box. They'll probably do it maybe one more time,
Speaker 1: but we will. Should should see Evan Phillips before the
Speaker 1: All Star break and then Edwin Diaz who stowed a
Speaker 1: couple bullpens at Dodger Stadium. Dave Roberts caught the one
Speaker 1: on Monday, flew from LA to Sacramento that morning before
Speaker 1: the series, said, both Blake Snell and Edwon Diaz look
Speaker 1: really good. So Diaz is going to face live hitters
Speaker 1: this weekend at Dodger Stadium. He'll probably have to do
Speaker 1: that one more time at least before her. You have
Speaker 1: assignment and then it's all about recovery there. Performance is
Speaker 1: really secondary at that point. What the Dodgers want to
Speaker 1: see when Evan Diaz starts a rehab assignment is DOESI
Speaker 1: look healthy? Is he executing? Can he check the boxes?
Speaker 1: And because he's only going to be pitching in one
Speaker 1: any instance, that rehab assignment should theoretically take less time
Speaker 1: than a multi ending reliever such as Evan Phillips or
Speaker 1: Brock Stewart. So kind of a vague timeline still on
Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz, but we're getting closer and closer. In my speculation,
Speaker 1: maybe we're looking right around trade deadline for Evan Daz
Speaker 1: to come back. So it is just like making a trade,
Speaker 1: as every front oppice exact flights to say that type
Speaker 1: of year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny a lot of Edwin Diaz with somebody.
Speaker 4: I did not anticipate the Dodgers really being in on
Speaker 4: in the off season. Of course, he was somebody you
Speaker 4: had on your big board of hoping that they could
Speaker 4: get a legitimate closer. But we're talking about all of
Speaker 4: this commanding lead. They're twenty five games over five hundred,
Speaker 4: best record in baseball by a game and a half
Speaker 4: over the Brewers, which the Brewers they sold their soul
Speaker 4: to somebody. But isn't it funny that they're able to
Speaker 4: do all of this without their all star, superstar closer.
Speaker 2: It's funny owl of Minerva in our chat. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: we're getting Phillips and Diaz back soon, Q evil laughter, Mo.
Speaker 2: How good this team is?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: The best closer in the game has not been available
Speaker 2: for two months or three months, or whatever the heck
Speaker 2: it is, and they're still kicking butt and taking names
Speaker 2: and you're getting Evan Phillips back. I mean, yes, it's
Speaker 2: an embarrassment of riches. But you know what, that is
Speaker 2: what the Los Angeles Dodgers do. They have made themselves
Speaker 2: into a destination location. The people that want to play,
Speaker 2: the people that we want want to play in LA.
Speaker 2: And that's just the way that it's been for the
Speaker 2: last few years. To me, Edwin Diaz was the biggest
Speaker 2: name on the board period, not just biggest pitcher on
Speaker 2: the board, biggest name on the board period. So this
Speaker 2: is just a situation where you know, the better team
Speaker 2: is getting these guys because they want to play there.
Speaker 2: They want an opportunity to win. Look at what the
Speaker 2: Mets are doing right now. And again I'm trying to
Speaker 2: tell you people, money doesn't buy championships. Look at the Mets.
Speaker 2: So you know this is this is a situation that
Speaker 2: I can't wait to get him back. I can't wait
Speaker 2: to hear the song again. But the Dodgers have handled it.
Speaker 2: Another other in the cap of Dave Roberts, by the way,
Speaker 2: congratulations on over one thousand victories. Another feather in the
Speaker 2: cap of the way that Bardo and Mark Pryor and
Speaker 2: mcguinnis and Dave have handled the pitching staff. They've done
Speaker 2: an unbelievably good job at maneuvering the pieces in the
Speaker 2: puzzle that they have available to them. And it's just
Speaker 2: like getting reinforcements. And again, it's going to be a
Speaker 2: huge pickup at the trade deadline, and they don't have
Speaker 2: to give anybody away for it because he's already on
Speaker 2: the roster.
Speaker 3: It's funny if I forgot about the music that we're
Speaker 3: going to get.
Speaker 4: As somebody called it in my other chat, shout out
Speaker 4: Noah Tina trumpet, No no Is Alexander Tina trumpets. We're
Speaker 4: gonna get the lady back there with the trumpet at
Speaker 4: Dodger Stadium because we only saw that a few times.
Speaker 3: Got to get that going again. Why not? Why not?
Speaker 3: They got the money, they can make it happen.
Speaker 4: We got another question here in relation to yesterday, young
Speaker 4: ye in the chat. If River Ryan were healthy, would
Speaker 4: they have brought him up for yesterday's game?
Speaker 3: Katie? What do you think?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good question. I certainly think it'd be
Speaker 1: a topic of discs that River Ryan was getting real
Speaker 1: close and we could kind of sense it against the
Speaker 1: emmetschean start against the Orioles in the middle of whatever month.
Speaker 5: It just was June.
Speaker 1: Where Dave said, you know, it will take us next start,
Speaker 1: but we will make a decision from there. And then
Speaker 1: River Ryan was put on the ail with a second
Speaker 1: hamstring issue of the season. So if he was healthy,
Speaker 1: I definitely think that would have been in consideration because
Speaker 1: the front office had floated the idea around already in
Speaker 1: weeks prior where if River Ryan was built up he
Speaker 1: could spot start, it wouldn't mess up their long plan
Speaker 1: to make sure that he could stay healthy, which as
Speaker 1: we see now was really important. That they're going to
Speaker 1: do that and are going to continue to do it
Speaker 1: at this point. So yeah, I think that would have
Speaker 1: been in consideration. And no disrespect to Charlie Barnes again
Speaker 1: who went out and did his job reset the bullpen,
Speaker 1: but I think that's something that a lot of Dodgers
Speaker 1: fans would have liked to see, and that's why you
Speaker 1: have depth in your minor league system to go out
Speaker 1: and have someone that you're excited about go spot start.
Speaker 1: So that wouldn't have surprised me if River Ryan was
Speaker 1: an option to see him there Wednesday. Alas he was not.
Speaker 1: The good news for River Ryan because I don't think
Speaker 1: we've talked about it much on the show. Show is
Speaker 1: that the Dodgers taught me. If you heard this before,
Speaker 1: don't think it's.
Speaker 5: That big of a deal.
Speaker 1: But we do know that he doesn't have to stop throwing.
Speaker 1: He's not throwing off a mountain, he's throwing off flat ground.
Speaker 1: But when you're a picture. What's most important that you
Speaker 1: can keep your arm moving and throwing so they'll rest
Speaker 1: the hamstring.
Speaker 5: It is more of a.
Speaker 1: Just kind of an annoying blow for the Dodgers at
Speaker 1: this point because they want to see River Ryan so badly.
Speaker 1: They still believe he could be an option for them
Speaker 1: later in the second half of the season or maybe
Speaker 1: even out of their bullpen in the postseason. Asterisk should
Speaker 1: he stay healthy?
Speaker 3: Is Monty python there?
Speaker 4: It's only a flesh wounds, that's the injury. Yeah, kind
Speaker 4: of how the injuries go couple rapid fire. Here we
Speaker 4: got another comment. I guess it's a question for me
Speaker 4: from Richie because he wants credit for not being a
Speaker 4: creep to Katie, which you know you shouldn't.
Speaker 3: Get credit for.
Speaker 1: Did you not get credit for that?
Speaker 3: Just doing like the bare minimum?
Speaker 4: And thankfully Diane in the chat, don't worry case he's
Speaker 4: never going to the mad case, I.
Speaker 1: Am that's my girl. No, Richie, Richie, was it you
Speaker 1: that posted I saw the Summit for you page on
Speaker 1: Twitter a very questionable photo of you with a Manny
Speaker 1: Machado cup.
Speaker 5: Was that you? I can't tell it? Gave me es.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew it.
Speaker 4: He's a part of my My All Dodgers discord chat.
Speaker 4: By the way, you guys shout out patroon dot com,
Speaker 4: sass real left r G give me your money. But
Speaker 4: we gave him so much crap because this is a
Speaker 4: guy he obsesses over Manny Machado talks a bunch of
Speaker 4: about the Padres, calls into like Padres podcasts and whatnot.
Speaker 3: He's just wherever he can go. Shout out also your
Speaker 3: friends Ben and woods Angel.
Speaker 4: It's like, why would you give the Padres money and
Speaker 4: get the Machado cup.
Speaker 3: It was a decision. Out of all the decisions he
Speaker 3: has made, it was it was one of them.
Speaker 4: We got a nine to ninety nine super chat from
Speaker 4: Court Court for medical in the chat.
Speaker 3: We appreciate that.
Speaker 4: To his trade talks, either Joe Ryan or Sonny Gray
Speaker 4: and the Dodgers radar, they aren't as good as Schoogle,
Speaker 4: yet you know you'd be trading less to get them.
Speaker 2: I feel like I could tell you that Sunny Gray
Speaker 2: is really pitched unbelievably well for the Boston Red Solacks.
Speaker 2: I mean he just took a no hitter into the
Speaker 2: seventh inning against the Yankees. He's going tomorrow or excuse me,
Speaker 2: he's going on what is today Thursday, so tomorrow's Friday,
Speaker 2: he's going on Saturday against the Angels. He's been every
Speaker 2: bit as good as they would have hoped that he
Speaker 2: could have been. Veteran presence obviously on the Mount. I
Speaker 2: would not mind having Sunny Gray. I mean, he would
Speaker 2: have to say it was okay, because he did wave
Speaker 2: his no trade clause to come over to the Red Sox.
Speaker 2: But and he did say the other day he would
Speaker 2: consider doing it again if that's the direction that the
Speaker 2: Red Sox wanted to go. And I would not have
Speaker 2: a problem getting Sunny Gray if we need him. I mean,
Speaker 2: where are we at with Blake Snell? Where are we
Speaker 2: at with Tyler glasnow that do we need him? I
Speaker 2: don't know so, but in the event that we.
Speaker 4: Did, okayel say yes, that would feel like sort of
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say out of nowhere like the Jack Flarerity
Speaker 4: edition was.
Speaker 3: But I don't think anybody was expecting Jack.
Speaker 4: Flarerity a couple of years ago and hey whatever, you
Speaker 4: World Series champion. Uh any thought any teeth of that Gray,
Speaker 4: Sonny Gray, Joe Ryan being on the radar, Well, I
Speaker 4: saw I.
Speaker 1: Covered Sunny Gray for two years in Saint Louis and
Speaker 1: he's a playoff starter, right, and he's this is the
Speaker 1: guy that's going to be an All Star again. Well,
Speaker 1: Deserved went through a lot in Saint Louis. Thought he
Speaker 1: was going to a contender, clearly was not. Thought he
Speaker 1: was going to contender in Boston is not. So I
Speaker 1: feel for him there at this point in his career,
Speaker 1: he wants to win. However, for the Dodgers, what they're
Speaker 1: looking at, no matter who it is, whether it's Joe Ryan,
Speaker 1: Sunny Gray's Schooble, throw your starter of preference in there.
Speaker 1: The Dodgers aren't looking to make any big additions to
Speaker 1: their active roster unless they have to. The last couple
Speaker 1: of years here, Freeman has said, we hope to avoid
Speaker 1: the trade deadline. We don't want to be really active
Speaker 1: in there. And if they're going to look for a
Speaker 1: starting pitcher, that means two things.
Speaker 5: Two.
Speaker 1: One, it means something has happened with Blake Snell or
Speaker 1: Tyler Glass now where they feel like they need it. Two,
Speaker 1: if they're going to go look for a starting pitcher,
Speaker 1: it has to be someone that's going to fit into
Speaker 1: a starting rotation of four that already includes Otani, Yamamoto
Speaker 1: and ideally Snell and Glass. Now, there are not a
Speaker 1: lot of pitchers to me that jump off the page
Speaker 1: minus school, that.
Speaker 5: Fit into a rotation that's already that good.
Speaker 1: So I don't see the Dodgers going out and just
Speaker 1: trading for starting pitching depth. Would Joe Ryan and Sunny
Speaker 1: Gray make almost any team better? Yes, for this Dodgers team.
Speaker 1: And this is not a knock on these guys, it's
Speaker 1: it's a testament to the Dodgers rotation. They're your number
Speaker 1: five starter, So does that really make them better? If
Speaker 1: the Dodgers have their perfect world like Clinton I talked
Speaker 1: about yesterday, of the four starters they want in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: are you even gonna throw a Sunny Gray or Joe
Speaker 1: Ryan in the NLDS? Probably not, so to just depends.
Speaker 1: That's why. What's what over the next four weeks, what
Speaker 1: Snell and Glass now look like and how they progress
Speaker 1: is going to be super important.
Speaker 3: Percent got to be healthy. It's you gotta be healthy.
Speaker 3: Two more quick ones here.
Speaker 4: First, I want to shout out Lindsey who became a
Speaker 4: member here on the team channel.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: If you guys, I quickly read that. At first I
Speaker 2: thought I said she just became a mother. I was like, oh, it's.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's much much better that It's much better.
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Speaker 4: get our occasional members only show access, which we will
Speaker 4: plan the next one soon. But the final question comes
Speaker 4: from Jason, another one for Katie. From your perspective, how
Speaker 4: much of Dalton Rushing's issues are just immaturity or is
Speaker 4: that overblown?
Speaker 1: I saw this question pop up in real time, so
Speaker 1: shout out Quint for adding it because it's it's a
Speaker 1: good one, Jason, especially, there are going to be a
Speaker 1: lot of eyes, like we talked about on Dalton Rushing
Speaker 1: this weekend, especially that Friday start with Otani, and I
Speaker 1: think a little bit of that is true, and I
Speaker 1: think the I think Dave Roberts has said as much.
Speaker 1: I think his veteran teammates have said as much. Dalton
Speaker 1: has some maturing to do. It continues to be a
Speaker 1: work in progress. But you look around the clubhouse and
Speaker 1: you see the players and the staff that are coming
Speaker 1: out to support him. What we see during the game,
Speaker 1: like thirty second flashes on the dugout or you know
Speaker 1: on the on deck circle where guys are talking to him.
Speaker 1: That's a fraction of what's going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: And this will be out in the athletic tomorrow, a
Speaker 1: shameless plug talking to guys like Freddy Freeman who say,
Speaker 1: you know, I wish people could see who Dalton Rushing
Speaker 1: is inside the clubhouse or on the bus or on
Speaker 1: the plane, like he is nowhere near that twenty second
Speaker 1: clip that.
Speaker 5: You see on social media.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, he has to do a better job of controlling
Speaker 1: himself so that you don't have those twenty second clips
Speaker 1: in social media. And Dalton said as much too. We
Speaker 1: sat down for about twenty five minutes yesterday behind Centerfield
Speaker 1: and beautiful West Sacramento, where he said, you know, it's
Speaker 1: embarrassing when I see those clips of myself, and I
Speaker 1: have to be better. I have to get people a
Speaker 1: reason to believe that who my teammates say that I am,
Speaker 1: I actually am. And I think that was a really
Speaker 1: good moment of awareness and reflection for Dalton.
Speaker 5: I'm excited for the story to come out.
Speaker 1: You think about guys like Fridi Freeman, Mickey row Key,
Speaker 1: Key Hernandez, they're all essentially like his baseball dads, and
Speaker 1: they all have very different parenting styles. So with Dalton,
Speaker 1: a lot of it is growing up, adjusting to the
Speaker 1: starting role for the Los Ange Dodgers right now, all
Speaker 1: of the social media e clips that you know, he's earned, right,
Speaker 1: He's kind of earned this this scrutiny because of how
Speaker 1: he's acted. Now it's about growing up from that, learning
Speaker 1: from a bunch of guys that have been in similar
Speaker 1: positions early in their careers before, and this is a
Speaker 1: good chance for him to do so. So a little immaturity.
Speaker 1: What is going to be telling to me, because these players,
Speaker 1: these guys are only going to do this for so long,
Speaker 1: is can he make this change? I think that start
Speaker 1: in Minnesota was a big eye opener for him, So
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing how the next couple of
Speaker 1: weeks play out.
Speaker 2: And the fact that he says that he's noticing it
Speaker 2: and he's embarrassed by it, to me, that shows growth.
Speaker 2: If he was denying all of it. The perception sometimes
Speaker 2: can be reality. That would show some immaturity. So good
Speaker 2: on him. Looking forward to that article coming out in
Speaker 2: The Athletic by Katie. Before we go to break, I
Speaker 2: wanted to shout out Trail Boss Patriot, my man, fifty
Speaker 2: dollars super chat. I don't know what this means, Clint,
Speaker 2: get Alana a chicken.
Speaker 3: Rap one, I'll say, am I hungry?
Speaker 2: I don't understand what this means. It is for the fifty.
Speaker 4: It is Thursday, So what I'm assuming is that Trailboss Patriot. Also,
Speaker 4: my friend Reyes is telling me that he's off today
Speaker 4: and we're gonna go golf and then go to the
Speaker 4: bar and get chicken wraps because I'm down and we
Speaker 4: lost Katie.
Speaker 2: She's on her way to get a chicken wrap.
Speaker 3: We'll find a way to fix that real quick. Hold on,
Speaker 3: don't worry about it. But anyways, Yeah, this is a
Speaker 3: this is a buddy of mine.
Speaker 5: He is.
Speaker 3: Words, et cetera. There we go.
Speaker 4: Usually every time he pops on, it's it's something breaks
Speaker 4: or something gets distracting.
Speaker 3: So that happened, that happened there, But shout out Rayes.
Speaker 4: Uh, he's he's a guy who's doing Also shout out
Speaker 4: to everybody who joined us in the comments.
Speaker 3: You guys are awesome. Appreciate you. There.
Speaker 4: We're gonna take a quick break. We will be back
Speaker 4: with a little bit more Dodgers territory. TBD on whether
Speaker 4: or not WU will be with us, but we.
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Speaker 4: We're also hearing random crunches and things I don't know
Speaker 4: where think where noises are coming from. That just means
Speaker 4: it's probably time to sign off. But before we do,
Speaker 4: we got to talk a little bit. About another series
Speaker 4: coming up for with the Padres again, seven games and
Speaker 4: ten days or whatever, it is is always fun.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: The Padres are reeling. They are a bad team, and
Speaker 4: to me this feels like this is their season.
Speaker 2: You mean, their windows closing.
Speaker 3: To a degree. Yeah, Katie, I.
Speaker 1: Would almost I would almost one hundred percent agree, except
Speaker 1: their general manager A. J.
Speaker 5: Preller.
Speaker 1: We have seen him do crazy things. However, you can
Speaker 1: only do that so many times. And the Padres are
Speaker 1: undergoing an ownership change. I'm not sure just how much
Speaker 1: that's going to impact the front office, if at all,
Speaker 1: but yeah, this has been a team that's kind of
Speaker 1: struggled with their identity all year long. Their hitters haven't hit,
Speaker 1: and you have the best closer in the game in
Speaker 1: Mason Miller, but no opportunity to use him. So it's
Speaker 1: it's not the Padres club that I was expecting to see.
Speaker 1: I thought. Bill Shaken asked a pretty good question yesterday
Speaker 1: postgame where he said, you know, usually we're hyping up
Speaker 1: this series. It's Dodgers Padres. This is for the division, like,
Speaker 1: let's get after it. And now I was just kind
Speaker 1: of like, eh, yeah, they're here.
Speaker 5: They're not very good.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I feel right now. Now it
Speaker 1: could change.
Speaker 5: It's a rivalry series, so those kind of.
Speaker 1: Always are crazy. But right now you're looking at the
Speaker 1: Padres just one game over five hunds. They've lost five straight.
Speaker 1: They gave up twenty two twenty two runs yesterday against
Speaker 1: the Cubs's.
Speaker 5: It has not been pretty.
Speaker 1: And for the seasons of Manny Machado, for Nandotati's junior especially,
Speaker 1: it has not been what either of them would have expected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, losers of five straight negative run differential. In fact,
Speaker 2: everybody in the division, with the exception of the Los
Speaker 2: Angeles Dodgers, has a negative run differential. This is a
Speaker 2: team that we love to hate, right it has become
Speaker 2: more of a recent rivalry than it has been in
Speaker 2: the past. The Giants are just as equally as bad.
Speaker 2: But I do agree with Ismael Sanchez thirty four h
Speaker 2: three in our chat. Step on their necks and put
Speaker 2: them out of their misery. I've always said, like, if
Speaker 2: you see your opponent drowning, shove a hose in their mouth,
Speaker 2: Like let's show them that they're still little brother, Right,
Speaker 2: They're still little brother. That's who this team is. Katie
Speaker 2: is now frozen in a very awkwardson.
Speaker 3: I didn't even notice that. Well, we'll figure that out.
Speaker 3: I need to.
Speaker 2: She's she's back.
Speaker 1: I don't know what is happening.
Speaker 2: This is basically just saying it's time to go. All right,
Speaker 2: So it's a three game set, right against four schools,
Speaker 2: four games, four game set Dodgers, Dodgers against San Diego
Speaker 2: this year, I'm gonna I'm gonna say we take three
Speaker 2: or four.
Speaker 3: It's a split. I think it's a split. Ooh, I'm worried.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, Book Onion, Book Onion with Roki and Shean, even
Speaker 1: though I'm at pitched better last time. Gives me a
Speaker 1: little pause, But I'm a believer.
Speaker 5: Let's go three or four.
Speaker 3: A big, big outing for Rokie.
Speaker 4: He's got to prove to me a meaningless dude on
Speaker 4: the internet that you know he's an option to stay
Speaker 4: in this rotation. But good show except for the weird parts.
Speaker 4: But hopefully you guys enjoyed.
Speaker 3: The weird parts. We will be back on Monday.
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