1 00:00:11,657 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,937 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:17,977 --> 00:00:21,377 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, welcome to another 4 00:00:21,377 --> 00:00:24,657 Speaker 1: episode of The Buck Sexton Show. We have with us 5 00:00:24,657 --> 00:00:30,337 Speaker 1: this episode Ivory Hecker. She is an independent journalist YouTube 6 00:00:30,417 --> 00:00:33,777 Speaker 1: star extraordinary. You can go to YouTube dot com slash 7 00:00:33,817 --> 00:00:37,697 Speaker 1: Ivory Hecker to check out her latest an independent voice fearless, 8 00:00:37,817 --> 00:00:39,097 Speaker 1: has a lot of things to say on a whole 9 00:00:39,177 --> 00:00:43,337 Speaker 1: range of topics, and a Texan Ivory. Great to see you, 10 00:00:44,297 --> 00:00:47,337 Speaker 1: Great to be with you. Let's start with East Palestine. 11 00:00:47,457 --> 00:00:51,297 Speaker 1: Haven't really talked about that yet on the podcast. What 12 00:00:51,417 --> 00:00:55,937 Speaker 1: did What did we both learn from the Biden administration 13 00:00:56,057 --> 00:01:01,097 Speaker 1: and the media's response initially and now up to the 14 00:01:01,137 --> 00:01:08,057 Speaker 1: present day to a chemical spilled disaster train derailment in Ohio? 15 00:01:08,497 --> 00:01:12,897 Speaker 1: What do you think? Well? I think we learned that 16 00:01:13,097 --> 00:01:18,377 Speaker 1: we can't just trust the government and the EPA to 17 00:01:18,457 --> 00:01:22,217 Speaker 1: look out for the for our best interests. In fact, 18 00:01:22,217 --> 00:01:28,417 Speaker 1: we actually learned that the Ohio EPA recommended that people 19 00:01:29,137 --> 00:01:34,017 Speaker 1: returned to their homes shortly after the derailment based on 20 00:01:34,537 --> 00:01:40,377 Speaker 1: testing that the train company did itself, and it was 21 00:01:40,697 --> 00:01:44,977 Speaker 1: testing that did not adhere to federal standards. So of 22 00:01:45,017 --> 00:01:50,777 Speaker 1: course the train company is going to downplay what's actually happening, 23 00:01:51,257 --> 00:01:53,737 Speaker 1: and so people started to go back to their houses. 24 00:01:54,337 --> 00:01:57,017 Speaker 1: Now to this day, there's still a charred smell in 25 00:01:57,057 --> 00:02:00,657 Speaker 1: the air. People are getting sick, People returned to their 26 00:02:00,657 --> 00:02:04,417 Speaker 1: homes to find that their animals were dead, and so 27 00:02:04,537 --> 00:02:09,297 Speaker 1: it's just been a scary situation when they say animals, 28 00:02:09,377 --> 00:02:11,057 Speaker 1: can I just ask you. I know that there's been 29 00:02:11,057 --> 00:02:12,777 Speaker 1: a lot of fish that were found. Do you mean 30 00:02:12,857 --> 00:02:16,537 Speaker 1: people's pets or birds in their backyards or what have 31 00:02:16,577 --> 00:02:21,337 Speaker 1: they found? Yeah, there's one man in East Palestine who 32 00:02:22,177 --> 00:02:25,177 Speaker 1: has a TikTok where he features his pet foxes. He 33 00:02:25,217 --> 00:02:29,977 Speaker 1: has several pet foxes and he started to document how 34 00:02:30,017 --> 00:02:33,497 Speaker 1: they were getting sick and one of them died. He 35 00:02:33,537 --> 00:02:36,297 Speaker 1: took a photo of the dead fox, shared it on 36 00:02:36,297 --> 00:02:40,737 Speaker 1: his Facebook as well, and then video of his trips 37 00:02:40,777 --> 00:02:43,137 Speaker 1: to the vet all the medicine they had to get 38 00:02:43,177 --> 00:02:45,377 Speaker 1: for the other foxes. And then there was a woman 39 00:02:45,457 --> 00:02:49,217 Speaker 1: who had backyard chickens and she found that all the 40 00:02:49,297 --> 00:02:53,417 Speaker 1: chickens had died, and she had surveillance cameras on them 41 00:02:53,657 --> 00:02:56,417 Speaker 1: that showed they were perfectly healthy the day before, no 42 00:02:56,497 --> 00:03:00,177 Speaker 1: animal had attacked them, but they died shortly after the 43 00:03:00,337 --> 00:03:05,897 Speaker 1: derailment and that smoke plume that followed. You think we 44 00:03:05,937 --> 00:03:11,617 Speaker 1: should what would be adequate response, what should the measures? 45 00:03:11,617 --> 00:03:15,537 Speaker 1: Obviously the federal government was well Biden still hasn't gone 46 00:03:15,857 --> 00:03:20,017 Speaker 1: Buddha Judge went to a Secretary of transportation. As amazing 47 00:03:20,017 --> 00:03:21,777 Speaker 1: as that is to say out loud, despite the fact 48 00:03:21,777 --> 00:03:23,657 Speaker 1: that it's been a couple of years now, it took 49 00:03:23,657 --> 00:03:27,097 Speaker 1: a long time to get there, and people are still upset, 50 00:03:27,137 --> 00:03:31,177 Speaker 1: obviously about what has gone on. Rightly, so do we 51 00:03:31,257 --> 00:03:33,457 Speaker 1: have some sense as to what should be done? I mean, 52 00:03:33,497 --> 00:03:36,817 Speaker 1: the people that are really concerned about the people of 53 00:03:36,817 --> 00:03:40,537 Speaker 1: East Palestine, put aside the political hacks and folks that 54 00:03:40,537 --> 00:03:43,377 Speaker 1: are just trying to make this about blaming Trump for deregulation, 55 00:03:43,417 --> 00:03:45,297 Speaker 1: even though even the Washington Post came out and said 56 00:03:45,817 --> 00:03:49,097 Speaker 1: that's just not reality. There's no regulation you can point 57 00:03:49,097 --> 00:03:51,137 Speaker 1: to that Trump got rid of that could have led 58 00:03:51,177 --> 00:03:54,337 Speaker 1: to this or anything to do with this. But I 59 00:03:54,417 --> 00:03:56,817 Speaker 1: just want to know what you think should be done 60 00:03:56,897 --> 00:03:58,897 Speaker 1: or what are you when you're hearing from experts about this, 61 00:03:58,977 --> 00:04:00,777 Speaker 1: what are they saying should be done to make sure 62 00:04:00,857 --> 00:04:06,177 Speaker 1: that it's either cleaned up or it is safe. Well, 63 00:04:06,377 --> 00:04:09,177 Speaker 1: I think it's good that the Biden administration now over 64 00:04:09,217 --> 00:04:12,337 Speaker 1: the weekend they've knocked on and you know, they've sent 65 00:04:12,377 --> 00:04:15,337 Speaker 1: people from FEMA, from the EPA, and from the CDC 66 00:04:15,497 --> 00:04:17,417 Speaker 1: to go knock on over five hundred doors so far 67 00:04:17,457 --> 00:04:19,377 Speaker 1: in East Palastine to get a sense of what's really 68 00:04:19,417 --> 00:04:23,217 Speaker 1: going on with the people there. I know, I know 69 00:04:23,577 --> 00:04:28,817 Speaker 1: that the train company had met with the Biden administration 70 00:04:29,617 --> 00:04:32,617 Speaker 1: several months ago and they talked about safety being their 71 00:04:32,737 --> 00:04:35,817 Speaker 1: primary priority for twenty twenty three, which is so ironic, 72 00:04:36,537 --> 00:04:40,937 Speaker 1: But they met to talk about how they were going 73 00:04:40,977 --> 00:04:44,217 Speaker 1: to contribute to lesson globe and warming or climate change, 74 00:04:44,697 --> 00:04:50,857 Speaker 1: but they also secretly advocated against adding a second person 75 00:04:51,057 --> 00:04:55,057 Speaker 1: to engineer the train, to be on the train to 76 00:04:55,177 --> 00:05:00,217 Speaker 1: make sure that everything was going well. Apparently what these 77 00:05:00,217 --> 00:05:03,617 Speaker 1: trains were only manned by one person, So maybe we 78 00:05:03,697 --> 00:05:06,897 Speaker 1: can actually have another person man this train. But what's 79 00:05:07,097 --> 00:05:11,457 Speaker 1: what I'm really discovering that's really concerning is the disposal 80 00:05:11,537 --> 00:05:15,417 Speaker 1: of this waste, both the contaminated soil and the contaminated water. 81 00:05:16,297 --> 00:05:21,417 Speaker 1: It's now being shipped to Texas and Michigan, which you 82 00:05:21,457 --> 00:05:23,417 Speaker 1: know who knows if we'll find out it's being shipped 83 00:05:23,497 --> 00:05:29,217 Speaker 1: shipped to other states because Texas officials, nobody in Texas 84 00:05:29,337 --> 00:05:32,377 Speaker 1: or in Michigan knew this was happening. They didn't get 85 00:05:32,377 --> 00:05:37,097 Speaker 1: a heads up from the disposal companies or from the 86 00:05:37,137 --> 00:05:40,337 Speaker 1: EPA that it was being shipped here here in Harris 87 00:05:40,337 --> 00:05:43,977 Speaker 1: County where I live. Our county judge said that she 88 00:05:44,097 --> 00:05:48,017 Speaker 1: found out through the news that this waste was being 89 00:05:48,057 --> 00:05:50,977 Speaker 1: disposed of in Deer Park, Texas, just down from me. 90 00:05:51,737 --> 00:05:55,737 Speaker 1: And but the company that was disposing this waste said 91 00:05:56,137 --> 00:05:59,777 Speaker 1: that so far they've disposed of about seven hundred thousand 92 00:05:59,857 --> 00:06:04,857 Speaker 1: gallons of wastewater from East Palatine, Ohio. But they actually 93 00:06:04,897 --> 00:06:07,017 Speaker 1: said what was really stunning to me, as they said, 94 00:06:07,017 --> 00:06:09,857 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it right here. They have a permit 95 00:06:09,897 --> 00:06:13,457 Speaker 1: to dispose of two hundred and thirty million gallons of 96 00:06:13,497 --> 00:06:18,577 Speaker 1: wastewater annually, so they have an EPA permit to do this, 97 00:06:18,777 --> 00:06:21,697 Speaker 1: and what they do is they shoot the wastewater deep 98 00:06:22,097 --> 00:06:24,497 Speaker 1: into the earth. They're saying it's deep enough that it's 99 00:06:24,537 --> 00:06:27,457 Speaker 1: not going to contaminate our drinking water or anything, and 100 00:06:27,497 --> 00:06:29,657 Speaker 1: we hope that they're right. But it's really stunning that 101 00:06:29,937 --> 00:06:34,217 Speaker 1: this is actual a normal occurrence that nobody finds out about. 102 00:06:34,497 --> 00:06:36,257 Speaker 1: We found out about this one because it was making 103 00:06:36,297 --> 00:06:40,177 Speaker 1: so many headlines. But the fact that here in Houston, Texas, 104 00:06:40,577 --> 00:06:45,457 Speaker 1: we're constantly getting that much contaminated water under underneath us, 105 00:06:46,137 --> 00:06:49,257 Speaker 1: and no wonder that there it's known in town don't 106 00:06:49,337 --> 00:06:53,217 Speaker 1: drink the tap water. Is They are a part of 107 00:06:53,217 --> 00:06:55,937 Speaker 1: you that just has to has to feel like the 108 00:06:56,297 --> 00:06:59,497 Speaker 1: EPA and the people that certainly are calling the shots 109 00:06:59,497 --> 00:07:02,417 Speaker 1: that are under the Biden administration and they're working at 110 00:07:02,417 --> 00:07:04,937 Speaker 1: the behest of the Biden White House, they get so 111 00:07:05,977 --> 00:07:10,377 Speaker 1: energized and so frightened on issues of climate change. I mean, 112 00:07:10,537 --> 00:07:14,057 Speaker 1: even Pete Buddha judge bring him up again. He said 113 00:07:14,097 --> 00:07:17,777 Speaker 1: recently that we'll be judged by future generations about how 114 00:07:17,777 --> 00:07:20,217 Speaker 1: we handle the climate crisis. Now he says that in 115 00:07:20,257 --> 00:07:22,457 Speaker 1: a very smug fashion, and he thinks he's a serious 116 00:07:22,497 --> 00:07:24,457 Speaker 1: and intelligent person as he says that, of course it's 117 00:07:24,537 --> 00:07:27,057 Speaker 1: I mean, it's lunacy like no one. No one's gonna 118 00:07:27,057 --> 00:07:29,137 Speaker 1: remember what Pete Boudda judge did on climate change in 119 00:07:29,177 --> 00:07:33,057 Speaker 1: two years, never mind in twenty or two hundred. But 120 00:07:33,137 --> 00:07:36,137 Speaker 1: they're all fired up about that and the people work 121 00:07:36,137 --> 00:07:39,137 Speaker 1: at the EPA are very concerned. But we're talking about 122 00:07:39,417 --> 00:07:41,417 Speaker 1: what happened in the palastine, but also just the way 123 00:07:41,857 --> 00:07:44,257 Speaker 1: that wastewater from an instant like that as disposed of. 124 00:07:44,537 --> 00:07:46,737 Speaker 1: We're just supposed to trust them and it's no big deal. 125 00:07:47,337 --> 00:07:52,017 Speaker 1: I think there's a disconnect there. Yeah, people are concerned, 126 00:07:52,097 --> 00:07:54,697 Speaker 1: They're trusting everything less and less, and when you find 127 00:07:54,737 --> 00:07:58,857 Speaker 1: out about this, it is interesting. Even government leaders both 128 00:07:58,897 --> 00:08:02,817 Speaker 1: in Texas and Michigan, you know, state representatives in Michigan 129 00:08:02,937 --> 00:08:08,657 Speaker 1: right now are trying to get more details from the 130 00:08:08,697 --> 00:08:11,417 Speaker 1: waste disposal company on what the heck's going on. What 131 00:08:11,617 --> 00:08:14,857 Speaker 1: sort of waste is this. We're finding out in Texas 132 00:08:14,937 --> 00:08:19,177 Speaker 1: that it's uh, it's from the wastewater's actually from uh, 133 00:08:20,537 --> 00:08:23,977 Speaker 1: the water that was sprayed to try to put out 134 00:08:24,137 --> 00:08:30,137 Speaker 1: the flames, and then that runoff water that now has 135 00:08:30,217 --> 00:08:33,097 Speaker 1: you know, the original hosewater mixed with the chemicals is 136 00:08:33,137 --> 00:08:35,177 Speaker 1: now being shipped down to Texas. So that's what that's 137 00:08:35,177 --> 00:08:38,617 Speaker 1: what we have here underneath us. But what do the 138 00:08:38,657 --> 00:08:43,257 Speaker 1: Michigan residents have their state representatives trying to figure that out. So, 139 00:08:44,217 --> 00:08:47,977 Speaker 1: but the fact that this is the this is actually 140 00:08:47,977 --> 00:08:51,057 Speaker 1: constantly happening that there's a permit for what did I say, 141 00:08:51,057 --> 00:08:55,097 Speaker 1: two d two hundred and thirty million gallons annually And 142 00:08:55,177 --> 00:08:57,617 Speaker 1: this is not even a million gallons that have been 143 00:08:57,617 --> 00:09:02,817 Speaker 1: disposed of at this point, um, and nobody nobody knows 144 00:09:02,857 --> 00:09:06,457 Speaker 1: about it. Like our county judge here in Houston just 145 00:09:06,537 --> 00:09:11,177 Speaker 1: found out by law, nobody has to all the county 146 00:09:11,497 --> 00:09:13,817 Speaker 1: that trucks are being shipped through the city with this 147 00:09:14,017 --> 00:09:17,537 Speaker 1: poisonous water. So I think a lot of people are 148 00:09:17,817 --> 00:09:22,017 Speaker 1: asking right now, should should we change regulations to at 149 00:09:22,057 --> 00:09:25,377 Speaker 1: least let people know that these toxins are coming through 150 00:09:25,417 --> 00:09:27,097 Speaker 1: the city and they're about to go in the ground 151 00:09:27,137 --> 00:09:29,977 Speaker 1: beneath us. How much do you think the federal response 152 00:09:30,777 --> 00:09:35,377 Speaker 1: under this Biden administration would have been different if East 153 00:09:35,417 --> 00:09:39,177 Speaker 1: Palestine was for whether it's based on, you know, the 154 00:09:39,217 --> 00:09:43,017 Speaker 1: actual voting records or not. If East Palestine was considered 155 00:09:43,017 --> 00:09:45,737 Speaker 1: to be a Democrat stronghold instead of the belief that 156 00:09:45,817 --> 00:09:49,697 Speaker 1: it's a Trump voting area. Do you think the federal 157 00:09:49,737 --> 00:09:52,417 Speaker 1: government would have acted sooner or is that just people 158 00:09:52,457 --> 00:09:56,377 Speaker 1: taking a cheap shot. I don't know if they would 159 00:09:56,377 --> 00:10:03,177 Speaker 1: have acted sooner. I it seems like Democrats and Republicans 160 00:10:03,257 --> 00:10:07,857 Speaker 1: are are united in this response in large partlet in 161 00:10:07,897 --> 00:10:10,777 Speaker 1: that everyone is really concerned about this. Both Democrats and 162 00:10:10,817 --> 00:10:14,497 Speaker 1: Republicans are speaking out about the concern about this. And 163 00:10:14,577 --> 00:10:18,937 Speaker 1: I think that the EPA has always been pretty compromised 164 00:10:18,977 --> 00:10:22,177 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Ye, Biden, why has it Biden? 165 00:10:22,217 --> 00:10:24,177 Speaker 1: I don't think Biden's been to this. Has he been 166 00:10:24,257 --> 00:10:26,937 Speaker 1: or maybe he just went. 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You have been somebody who 208 00:12:30,817 --> 00:12:38,537 Speaker 1: has gotten well on the front lines of the vaccine fauciism, 209 00:12:38,617 --> 00:12:41,497 Speaker 1: all this stuff, like you've been a pretty vocal person 210 00:12:41,737 --> 00:12:47,737 Speaker 1: against all the COVID madness. Yeah, well, I mean I was. 211 00:12:48,737 --> 00:12:51,577 Speaker 1: When I was reporting for Fox during twenty twenty twenty 212 00:12:51,577 --> 00:12:58,737 Speaker 1: twenty one, we would get, you know, tips and information 213 00:12:58,977 --> 00:13:02,977 Speaker 1: from sources on the ground and viewers submitting what's actually 214 00:13:02,977 --> 00:13:05,977 Speaker 1: happening to them. So we were constantly getting a sense 215 00:13:06,777 --> 00:13:09,897 Speaker 1: of what was what was the reality and the pandemic, 216 00:13:10,657 --> 00:13:15,497 Speaker 1: and so it was interesting that a clear narrative was 217 00:13:15,617 --> 00:13:21,577 Speaker 1: being shaped as far as um treating treating COVID, as 218 00:13:21,617 --> 00:13:26,137 Speaker 1: far as what the reality is with the vaccines, which 219 00:13:26,137 --> 00:13:27,897 Speaker 1: we can't really talk about on YouTube. If we're on 220 00:13:27,937 --> 00:13:30,937 Speaker 1: YouTube right now, YouTube really censors that. And it was 221 00:13:30,977 --> 00:13:34,777 Speaker 1: interesting when I discovered that both social media sites and 222 00:13:34,897 --> 00:13:38,937 Speaker 1: major mainstream media outlets were all censoring and controlling the 223 00:13:39,017 --> 00:13:41,297 Speaker 1: narrative in the same way, which is part of why 224 00:13:41,417 --> 00:13:46,137 Speaker 1: I decided to get out of Fox UM because we 225 00:13:46,137 --> 00:13:50,017 Speaker 1: were when I was assigned, I began getting assigned to 226 00:13:50,057 --> 00:13:54,137 Speaker 1: cover the vaccines very often, and and my bosses would 227 00:13:54,177 --> 00:13:57,697 Speaker 1: instruct me not to talk about the evidence that we 228 00:13:57,777 --> 00:14:02,097 Speaker 1: had of reactions to it, any any sort of negative reactions. 229 00:14:02,137 --> 00:14:08,537 Speaker 1: So it was a lot yes exactly were we were. 230 00:14:08,617 --> 00:14:12,097 Speaker 1: So I was kind honestly instructed to promote it, push 231 00:14:12,137 --> 00:14:18,017 Speaker 1: it to people, and not talk about any side effects. Meanwhile, 232 00:14:18,017 --> 00:14:22,337 Speaker 1: the inbox was filling with questions about side effects, and 233 00:14:22,377 --> 00:14:26,137 Speaker 1: we were getting evidence of side effects too, and we 234 00:14:26,137 --> 00:14:29,977 Speaker 1: were not allowed to talk about that. Then we later 235 00:14:30,177 --> 00:14:34,737 Speaker 1: learned Blaze TV did a Freedom of Information Act requests 236 00:14:35,297 --> 00:14:39,017 Speaker 1: on White House funding what the White House used their 237 00:14:39,297 --> 00:14:43,177 Speaker 1: money for in regards to promoting the vaccines. It later 238 00:14:43,217 --> 00:14:46,417 Speaker 1: came out that they had The White House had sent 239 00:14:46,617 --> 00:14:51,057 Speaker 1: advertising money or you know, money to promote the vaccines 240 00:14:51,177 --> 00:14:55,617 Speaker 1: to virtually every media outlet, including Fox and so then 241 00:14:55,657 --> 00:14:59,057 Speaker 1: I had confirmation of how strange it was that we 242 00:14:59,097 --> 00:15:02,937 Speaker 1: had this instruction to only make the vaccines look good 243 00:15:02,977 --> 00:15:07,577 Speaker 1: and push people to take them, don't talk about any 244 00:15:08,177 --> 00:15:13,497 Speaker 1: potential negative consequence, which goes against informed consent, which goes 245 00:15:13,537 --> 00:15:17,017 Speaker 1: against journalism ethics. So that's a little bit of my background. 246 00:15:17,057 --> 00:15:20,697 Speaker 1: And why ah host leave Fox. What was your reaction 247 00:15:20,777 --> 00:15:24,897 Speaker 1: to seeing the Energy Department report came out reported on 248 00:15:24,977 --> 00:15:28,697 Speaker 1: over the weekend that they think that, Yeah, it turns 249 00:15:28,697 --> 00:15:32,937 Speaker 1: out after as you mentioned, social media including YouTube, wouldn't 250 00:15:32,937 --> 00:15:36,297 Speaker 1: allow you to even talk about the lab leak, And 251 00:15:36,497 --> 00:15:39,977 Speaker 1: now it comes to pass that the federal government itself, 252 00:15:40,017 --> 00:15:41,737 Speaker 1: at least at the Energy Department, I know there's still 253 00:15:41,737 --> 00:15:44,017 Speaker 1: some descent among the agencies, is saying yeah, no, it 254 00:15:44,057 --> 00:15:46,497 Speaker 1: was a lab leak. What's that like for someone like you, 255 00:15:46,537 --> 00:15:48,257 Speaker 1: who in the beginning was saying, I think they're lying 256 00:15:48,297 --> 00:15:53,097 Speaker 1: to us about some stuff. It just confirms the importance 257 00:15:53,297 --> 00:15:59,497 Speaker 1: of protecting free speech and free press, because it's clear 258 00:15:59,777 --> 00:16:04,177 Speaker 1: that censorship is inhibiting us from getting to the truth. 259 00:16:04,217 --> 00:16:08,497 Speaker 1: The fact that we were banned from talking about something 260 00:16:08,537 --> 00:16:11,217 Speaker 1: that later turned out to be true. You know, we 261 00:16:11,257 --> 00:16:13,617 Speaker 1: don't want this to happen again in our future if 262 00:16:13,657 --> 00:16:17,297 Speaker 1: we if we want to be in the know about 263 00:16:17,337 --> 00:16:20,337 Speaker 1: what's really happening, which is so crucial to freedom in 264 00:16:20,377 --> 00:16:23,297 Speaker 1: any free society, I mean, to keep a free society, 265 00:16:23,337 --> 00:16:25,497 Speaker 1: you need to be aware of the realities of whatever 266 00:16:25,697 --> 00:16:31,337 Speaker 1: what are actually happening. To have a supposed major outlet 267 00:16:31,377 --> 00:16:34,497 Speaker 1: that's supposedly a part of the free press preventing its 268 00:16:34,497 --> 00:16:38,017 Speaker 1: people from talking about things like this, it's such a 269 00:16:38,137 --> 00:16:41,217 Speaker 1: disservice to the citizens of America. I hope people are 270 00:16:41,217 --> 00:16:44,937 Speaker 1: waking up about to compromise all levels of media are 271 00:16:44,977 --> 00:16:48,697 Speaker 1: both both the TV news and the social media. It 272 00:16:48,817 --> 00:16:53,737 Speaker 1: is amazing that there's been no apology or even explanation 273 00:16:53,977 --> 00:16:58,057 Speaker 1: from the social media giants for the censorship they engaged 274 00:16:58,097 --> 00:17:02,337 Speaker 1: in that now we know, beyond any doubt was wrong. 275 00:17:02,937 --> 00:17:06,337 Speaker 1: They were censoring things under on the premise that what 276 00:17:06,377 --> 00:17:09,537 Speaker 1: they were censoring was untrue, and they were wrong, and 277 00:17:09,577 --> 00:17:12,977 Speaker 1: it was true, and it's like they don't care. We're 278 00:17:12,977 --> 00:17:16,857 Speaker 1: supposed to think that this is somehow not a massive problem, 279 00:17:16,937 --> 00:17:19,097 Speaker 1: and they often talk about threats of democracy on the left. 280 00:17:19,377 --> 00:17:22,777 Speaker 1: I think when the most powerful communication companies really just 281 00:17:22,777 --> 00:17:26,577 Speaker 1: powerful companies in the world period, are all colluding together 282 00:17:26,617 --> 00:17:30,697 Speaker 1: to push a certain narrative and suppress voices. Can you 283 00:17:30,737 --> 00:17:32,937 Speaker 1: even have free elections? I mean that's I've been telling 284 00:17:32,937 --> 00:17:35,337 Speaker 1: people this because a lot of twenty twenty talk comes 285 00:17:35,417 --> 00:17:39,737 Speaker 1: up and I say, well, what was the what was 286 00:17:39,777 --> 00:17:41,857 Speaker 1: the real theft that occurred, or rather, what was the 287 00:17:41,897 --> 00:17:45,457 Speaker 1: way in which the democracy that we have was in jeopardy? 288 00:17:45,897 --> 00:17:48,457 Speaker 1: I think not just a hundred Biden laptop suppression by 289 00:17:48,457 --> 00:17:53,857 Speaker 1: Twitter and Facebook, but the reality of media companies lying 290 00:17:53,897 --> 00:17:56,337 Speaker 1: to the public about putting their thumb on the scale 291 00:17:56,377 --> 00:18:00,137 Speaker 1: for Democrats. I mean, that's that's a big problem, right, 292 00:18:00,177 --> 00:18:02,897 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, this is this is something if 293 00:18:02,977 --> 00:18:04,817 Speaker 1: phone companies all of a sudden said we're only going 294 00:18:04,897 --> 00:18:06,897 Speaker 1: to be we're only going to operate as phone banks 295 00:18:07,377 --> 00:18:10,617 Speaker 1: for Democrats and not for Republicans, and the public didn't 296 00:18:10,657 --> 00:18:13,337 Speaker 1: know about that, that would be a big deal. And 297 00:18:13,657 --> 00:18:15,377 Speaker 1: it kind of strikes me the same way in this 298 00:18:15,457 --> 00:18:17,857 Speaker 1: last twenty twenty elections. So was it a free and 299 00:18:17,937 --> 00:18:23,777 Speaker 1: fair election? No? No, I don't think it was exactly. 300 00:18:24,017 --> 00:18:29,137 Speaker 1: It's very concerning, um that and it seems like nothing 301 00:18:29,257 --> 00:18:34,137 Speaker 1: is being done. Um and the fact that the media 302 00:18:34,337 --> 00:18:37,977 Speaker 1: is suppressed from talking about you know, they suppressed their people. 303 00:18:38,057 --> 00:18:43,337 Speaker 1: Media outlets have this narrative of the big lie, you know, 304 00:18:43,457 --> 00:18:48,137 Speaker 1: that the big lies that that anything in elections is imperfect, 305 00:18:48,177 --> 00:18:50,137 Speaker 1: that if there's any if you if you believe there 306 00:18:50,217 --> 00:18:53,417 Speaker 1: might be any flaws in elections, then you're a part 307 00:18:53,417 --> 00:18:57,217 Speaker 1: of the big lie. It's just major gas lighting and 308 00:18:58,097 --> 00:19:00,657 Speaker 1: media outlets on the left and the right. You know, 309 00:19:00,737 --> 00:19:04,457 Speaker 1: Fox News jumped on that same bandwagon with with CNN 310 00:19:05,217 --> 00:19:08,177 Speaker 1: and saying we're we're at some point, we're gonna stop 311 00:19:08,257 --> 00:19:13,937 Speaker 1: talking about these compromise elections, you know, and you know, 312 00:19:14,057 --> 00:19:20,057 Speaker 1: things like certain voting machine companies. Um. Like again, if 313 00:19:20,097 --> 00:19:21,577 Speaker 1: I'm on YouTube with you, I don't want to get 314 00:19:21,617 --> 00:19:24,337 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of lawsuits got on about 315 00:19:24,377 --> 00:19:26,817 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Let's stay let's stay away from let's 316 00:19:26,857 --> 00:19:28,697 Speaker 1: stay away from that one. I mean YouTube. I've by 317 00:19:28,697 --> 00:19:32,137 Speaker 1: the way, I've already been uh in, I've been demonetized, 318 00:19:32,177 --> 00:19:35,417 Speaker 1: gotten strikes, gotten taken down, gotten frozen, gotten shadow band all. 319 00:19:35,457 --> 00:19:37,697 Speaker 1: I mean at this point, this is why you know, 320 00:19:37,777 --> 00:19:40,657 Speaker 1: God bless old school radio. Um, because that's the way 321 00:19:40,697 --> 00:19:43,777 Speaker 1: I'm made to reach five of my audience. Because if 322 00:19:43,777 --> 00:19:47,017 Speaker 1: I was really relying on on only digital means, Uh, 323 00:19:47,137 --> 00:19:50,257 Speaker 1: it's a totally different It's so difficult to get the truth. 324 00:19:50,457 --> 00:19:53,057 Speaker 1: And this is what I'm saying with this is that 325 00:19:53,417 --> 00:19:57,337 Speaker 1: how can we expect to have have our vote count. 326 00:19:57,897 --> 00:20:01,097 Speaker 1: We can't even talk about what's wrong with it, not 327 00:20:01,177 --> 00:20:04,697 Speaker 1: even on a social media site like YouTube or on 328 00:20:04,777 --> 00:20:08,337 Speaker 1: a news outlet like Fox News. And I'll and I'll 329 00:20:08,417 --> 00:20:11,097 Speaker 1: say it in a way that doesn't doesn't get you know, 330 00:20:11,177 --> 00:20:14,417 Speaker 1: your channel in trouble. But you know, when we were 331 00:20:14,417 --> 00:20:18,257 Speaker 1: we were aware of we had the paperwork of why 332 00:20:18,297 --> 00:20:22,457 Speaker 1: the state of Texas banned this certain machine company. And 333 00:20:22,497 --> 00:20:25,497 Speaker 1: then I'm not allowed to I'm not allowed to alert 334 00:20:25,617 --> 00:20:28,777 Speaker 1: the viewers about this. It's a difference between saying there's 335 00:20:28,817 --> 00:20:32,937 Speaker 1: a vulnerability and here is how these vulnerabilities were exploited 336 00:20:33,177 --> 00:20:37,017 Speaker 1: already in a way that I'm going to declare change 337 00:20:37,057 --> 00:20:40,017 Speaker 1: an election or change whatever. I mean. These are two 338 00:20:40,377 --> 00:20:42,697 Speaker 1: different things, right, So it seems to me like you 339 00:20:42,697 --> 00:20:45,977 Speaker 1: should be able to always say there are flaws here, 340 00:20:46,057 --> 00:20:48,057 Speaker 1: or there are there are challenges to the system that 341 00:20:48,097 --> 00:20:51,257 Speaker 1: people should be aware of. But because of the sensitivity 342 00:20:51,417 --> 00:20:55,177 Speaker 1: over specific claims being made in specific states or whatever. 343 00:20:55,817 --> 00:20:58,937 Speaker 1: And then obviously also when companies get litigious, you know 344 00:20:59,337 --> 00:21:01,257 Speaker 1: very people like to talk a big game all the 345 00:21:01,257 --> 00:21:03,937 Speaker 1: time about how all free speech free speech. Well, when 346 00:21:03,937 --> 00:21:06,017 Speaker 1: you're getting dragged into court, all of a sudden that 347 00:21:06,057 --> 00:21:08,857 Speaker 1: free speech feels like it's a little bit more expensive, 348 00:21:08,977 --> 00:21:13,297 Speaker 1: and they change. They changed their approach to that very quickly. 349 00:21:13,577 --> 00:21:15,577 Speaker 1: I want speaking of free speech and getting the truth 350 00:21:15,617 --> 00:21:17,857 Speaker 1: project Veritas, because I know you wanted to get to that. 351 00:21:18,097 --> 00:21:20,097 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about what happened there. You're gonna 352 00:21:20,097 --> 00:21:22,137 Speaker 1: have to educate me on this, by the way, Ivory, 353 00:21:22,177 --> 00:21:24,937 Speaker 1: because I'm not I mean, I'm up on the basic 354 00:21:24,977 --> 00:21:27,737 Speaker 1: headlines that James O'Keefe is out. I don't know anything 355 00:21:27,737 --> 00:21:29,537 Speaker 1: about what happened. 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All right, Ivory, what 375 00:22:19,097 --> 00:22:23,177 Speaker 1: the heck happened over at Project Veritas. Lay it down. 376 00:22:24,817 --> 00:22:29,577 Speaker 1: It's such a shame that this vital, vitally important journalism 377 00:22:29,577 --> 00:22:34,937 Speaker 1: outfit is self destructing this month. It's really sad what 378 00:22:35,057 --> 00:22:39,857 Speaker 1: has happened. There was a fallout in early February between 379 00:22:39,937 --> 00:22:44,297 Speaker 1: James O'Keefe, the founder, and his board. They are structured 380 00:22:44,337 --> 00:22:49,777 Speaker 1: as a nonprofit and under that nonprofit structure, the board 381 00:22:49,817 --> 00:22:55,697 Speaker 1: has enough power to oust the organization's own founder. There 382 00:22:55,777 --> 00:22:58,897 Speaker 1: was a big disagreement between them. Now there's a lot 383 00:22:58,937 --> 00:23:04,057 Speaker 1: of conspiracy theories about about what this disagreement was really about. 384 00:23:04,137 --> 00:23:06,897 Speaker 1: A lot of viewers right now feel that it's associated 385 00:23:06,937 --> 00:23:09,497 Speaker 1: with Visor. A lot of people feel that the board 386 00:23:09,537 --> 00:23:12,737 Speaker 1: has been by out by Fiser because right before this fallout, 387 00:23:13,137 --> 00:23:16,337 Speaker 1: Project Veritas and James O'Keeffe had just broken their biggest 388 00:23:16,377 --> 00:23:20,097 Speaker 1: story ever, you know, know, everybody about what it was, 389 00:23:20,137 --> 00:23:21,857 Speaker 1: in case in case they didn't see it or they 390 00:23:21,897 --> 00:23:27,017 Speaker 1: forgot right, they went undercover meeting with a director from 391 00:23:27,057 --> 00:23:31,777 Speaker 1: Fiser who explained, you know, without knowing he was hanging 392 00:23:31,777 --> 00:23:35,697 Speaker 1: out with an undercover journalist. He told this person that 393 00:23:36,057 --> 00:23:42,057 Speaker 1: Fiser is doing directed evolution, which means that they will 394 00:23:42,097 --> 00:23:47,657 Speaker 1: manipulate a virus in order to have a reason to 395 00:23:48,017 --> 00:23:51,057 Speaker 1: come up with new pharmaceuticals, new vaccines to treat them 396 00:23:51,137 --> 00:23:54,217 Speaker 1: virus and then more money for them. But you know, 397 00:23:54,297 --> 00:23:57,737 Speaker 1: when you talk about this lab leak we mentioned earlier, 398 00:23:57,817 --> 00:24:00,497 Speaker 1: you know, it's like how many lab leaks might we 399 00:24:00,617 --> 00:24:03,777 Speaker 1: have if the individual pharmaceutical companies are doing things like 400 00:24:03,817 --> 00:24:07,497 Speaker 1: this too. So it was very concerning, and Fiser responded 401 00:24:07,537 --> 00:24:12,097 Speaker 1: with the statement which denied and then confirmed that they 402 00:24:12,177 --> 00:24:17,777 Speaker 1: do do directed evolution. So it made massive headlines erected, 403 00:24:18,257 --> 00:24:20,177 Speaker 1: just another way of saying gain a function research by 404 00:24:20,217 --> 00:24:26,417 Speaker 1: the way, similar, yeah pretty much. Yeah, so uh right. 405 00:24:26,537 --> 00:24:32,177 Speaker 1: Just days after that, um, we find out that James 406 00:24:32,177 --> 00:24:37,977 Speaker 1: O'Keeffe has been put put on leave while Project Veritas 407 00:24:38,057 --> 00:24:43,177 Speaker 1: investigates him. And you know, my reaction was, how can 408 00:24:43,497 --> 00:24:45,737 Speaker 1: the founder of an organization get kicked out of his 409 00:24:45,737 --> 00:24:48,577 Speaker 1: own organization? But I guess due to the structure of 410 00:24:48,577 --> 00:24:53,497 Speaker 1: a nonprofit, it's quite doable and apparently happens fairly often. 411 00:24:54,017 --> 00:24:56,897 Speaker 1: And the board is saying that this is due to 412 00:24:57,777 --> 00:25:02,377 Speaker 1: financial malfeasance, that James was doing wasteful spending. They had 413 00:25:02,377 --> 00:25:10,497 Speaker 1: to do this in order to protect the status, right yeah, status? Yeah, 414 00:25:10,537 --> 00:25:14,977 Speaker 1: what do you think? It just? I think this is 415 00:25:15,017 --> 00:25:17,937 Speaker 1: just a clash of big egos. Honestly, when you look 416 00:25:18,017 --> 00:25:24,897 Speaker 1: at the accusations of his spending, they seem like nothing important. 417 00:25:25,617 --> 00:25:27,617 Speaker 1: Why do they want him out? I mean, James O'Keefe 418 00:25:27,697 --> 00:25:31,817 Speaker 1: is the founder. I mean, I Project veritastomy just sounds like, 419 00:25:33,017 --> 00:25:35,897 Speaker 1: you know, the team built around James O'Keefe, Right, It's like, 420 00:25:36,257 --> 00:25:41,377 Speaker 1: is Aerosmith Aerosmith without Steven Tyler exactly? And that's the thing. 421 00:25:41,537 --> 00:25:45,737 Speaker 1: Everyone agrees that project very test doesn't exist without James O'Keeffe, 422 00:25:45,937 --> 00:25:47,657 Speaker 1: and I think the board knows that, and I think 423 00:25:47,697 --> 00:25:50,017 Speaker 1: the board didn't want him to actually leave. I think 424 00:25:50,057 --> 00:25:54,897 Speaker 1: they wanted to discipline him for because of a clash 425 00:25:54,897 --> 00:26:00,537 Speaker 1: of egos, because you know, I when there's some hard headed, 426 00:26:00,737 --> 00:26:05,217 Speaker 1: strong opinion people, you know, duking it out, and one 427 00:26:05,297 --> 00:26:08,737 Speaker 1: has the power to punish the other to help hopefully 428 00:26:08,737 --> 00:26:11,377 Speaker 1: make the others submit to him, I think that's what happened. 429 00:26:11,577 --> 00:26:14,017 Speaker 1: They're like, we're gonna send James to his knees. He'll 430 00:26:14,057 --> 00:26:16,697 Speaker 1: crawl back and he'll he'll obey us from here on out. 431 00:26:16,737 --> 00:26:20,297 Speaker 1: And James is like, no, I won't. I'm out. And 432 00:26:20,417 --> 00:26:23,697 Speaker 1: so last week he grabbed his things, made a final 433 00:26:23,737 --> 00:26:27,257 Speaker 1: statement which a lot of people have seen on video, 434 00:26:27,417 --> 00:26:31,657 Speaker 1: and then walked away. Now he's created his own independent tipline. 435 00:26:31,697 --> 00:26:35,777 Speaker 1: It appears that James is starting from scratch with the 436 00:26:35,777 --> 00:26:39,737 Speaker 1: exact same mission, but just him and maybe a skeleton 437 00:26:39,777 --> 00:26:42,137 Speaker 1: crew of his former employees. And I think what's going 438 00:26:42,177 --> 00:26:45,577 Speaker 1: to happen is Project Veritas. There. They've got a lot 439 00:26:45,617 --> 00:26:47,457 Speaker 1: of donor funding, but I think they're just going to 440 00:26:47,537 --> 00:26:50,777 Speaker 1: siphon out that funding and slowly die. Meanwhile, the new 441 00:26:50,817 --> 00:26:53,217 Speaker 1: funding is gonna you know, donors are going to redirect 442 00:26:53,217 --> 00:26:56,257 Speaker 1: to James directly, and he's going to build up from scratch. 443 00:26:56,337 --> 00:26:58,817 Speaker 1: It's a shame that all this has happened. Yesterday I 444 00:26:58,857 --> 00:27:01,297 Speaker 1: talked to one of the Project Veritas employees. There's good 445 00:27:01,337 --> 00:27:04,097 Speaker 1: people in that organization. I think everyone in the organization 446 00:27:04,137 --> 00:27:07,457 Speaker 1: had the same mission of finding the truth and uncovering 447 00:27:07,457 --> 00:27:10,217 Speaker 1: it for the public, but I think that there was 448 00:27:10,217 --> 00:27:12,657 Speaker 1: a disagreement on how to get there. And it just 449 00:27:12,697 --> 00:27:15,657 Speaker 1: breaks my heart that these good people, these undercover journalists 450 00:27:15,697 --> 00:27:18,737 Speaker 1: who've dedicated their lives to this are now sitting there 451 00:27:18,737 --> 00:27:21,297 Speaker 1: in limbo like what the hacker are we going to do? 452 00:27:21,857 --> 00:27:25,257 Speaker 1: They are still working on projects that they had been 453 00:27:25,297 --> 00:27:28,937 Speaker 1: working on before this fallout, and you know they're going 454 00:27:28,977 --> 00:27:30,897 Speaker 1: to do their best to put those stories out. Will 455 00:27:30,937 --> 00:27:34,377 Speaker 1: those important stories be received by the public or does 456 00:27:34,377 --> 00:27:37,177 Speaker 1: the public care more about the fact that James isn't there. 457 00:27:37,577 --> 00:27:40,017 Speaker 1: Hopefully the public, you know, they say content is king. 458 00:27:40,057 --> 00:27:44,057 Speaker 1: Hopefully the public, you know, appreciates light being shed on. 459 00:27:44,377 --> 00:27:46,897 Speaker 1: I understand they're working on story right now and regarding 460 00:27:47,177 --> 00:27:51,257 Speaker 1: the Department of Homeland Security, really important, heavy hitting stories. 461 00:27:51,257 --> 00:27:55,057 Speaker 1: So hopefully the shell crew that has left at Project 462 00:27:55,177 --> 00:27:57,857 Speaker 1: or to us can continue to the work that they're doing. 463 00:27:57,897 --> 00:27:59,617 Speaker 1: But I know some of them are being told, hey, 464 00:27:59,977 --> 00:28:03,457 Speaker 1: everyone just bail and join James because you will you 465 00:28:03,497 --> 00:28:05,377 Speaker 1: work with James if there was a way you can 466 00:28:05,417 --> 00:28:09,737 Speaker 1: help out that organization. You're an independent journalist. No, I'd 467 00:28:09,737 --> 00:28:13,297 Speaker 1: show was not to work with him, because he and 468 00:28:13,337 --> 00:28:16,017 Speaker 1: I also don't see eye tie on a few things, 469 00:28:16,257 --> 00:28:20,417 Speaker 1: which is why I really believe that he and his 470 00:28:20,537 --> 00:28:22,937 Speaker 1: board aren't. They're all good people, they just don't see 471 00:28:22,937 --> 00:28:26,377 Speaker 1: eye to eye. Because I like to support James from 472 00:28:26,737 --> 00:28:30,217 Speaker 1: a distance. I think he's doing wonderful work, but I 473 00:28:30,257 --> 00:28:33,217 Speaker 1: actually don't have a desire to work side by side 474 00:28:33,257 --> 00:28:35,857 Speaker 1: with him, and I think in many cases that's the case, 475 00:28:36,497 --> 00:28:39,697 Speaker 1: and so if so, I hope that all parties can 476 00:28:39,777 --> 00:28:43,257 Speaker 1: proceed in different directions. But I think that Project Veritas, 477 00:28:43,377 --> 00:28:46,617 Speaker 1: that name is now so tarnished. Whoever's left there, they're 478 00:28:46,617 --> 00:28:48,817 Speaker 1: going to have to start fresh with a new name. Honestly, 479 00:28:49,497 --> 00:28:52,497 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about what you're seeing in 480 00:28:52,537 --> 00:28:55,337 Speaker 1: the political world right now, twenty twenty four already looming 481 00:28:55,817 --> 00:28:58,057 Speaker 1: some heavy hitters in the mix on the Republican side, 482 00:28:58,177 --> 00:29:01,137 Speaker 1: and obviously Joe Biden. Is he going to run? But 483 00:29:01,297 --> 00:29:03,657 Speaker 1: before we get to that. Born from a tragedy of 484 00:29:03,737 --> 00:29:06,537 Speaker 1: nine to eleven, the Tunnel the Towers Foundation has been 485 00:29:06,537 --> 00:29:09,897 Speaker 1: honoring America's heroes ever since. 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So you know, 507 00:30:10,577 --> 00:30:13,297 Speaker 1: that's it's really cool when you get to work with um, 508 00:30:13,497 --> 00:30:17,137 Speaker 1: when you get to work with organizations, whether it's a 509 00:30:17,537 --> 00:30:20,377 Speaker 1: do good organization like all the Towers or even some 510 00:30:20,417 --> 00:30:24,097 Speaker 1: of the companies that we have that that sponsor consumer products, 511 00:30:24,097 --> 00:30:26,697 Speaker 1: that are run by great people who are selling products 512 00:30:26,697 --> 00:30:29,937 Speaker 1: to great people, and you know, it's it's win win 513 00:30:30,057 --> 00:30:31,817 Speaker 1: all around. So I think that's one of the things 514 00:30:31,857 --> 00:30:35,737 Speaker 1: that is fun about doing radio and podcasting is um 515 00:30:35,777 --> 00:30:37,497 Speaker 1: you get you get to form these relationships with people 516 00:30:37,697 --> 00:30:41,817 Speaker 1: doing really important stuff. UM all right, Ivory, Yeah, who's 517 00:30:41,857 --> 00:30:45,777 Speaker 1: gonna win, Who's gonna run? What's gonna happen twenty twenty four. 518 00:30:45,817 --> 00:30:47,497 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna just we got a couple of minutes here. 519 00:30:47,537 --> 00:30:49,417 Speaker 1: I just want you to tell me what what does 520 00:30:49,417 --> 00:30:55,737 Speaker 1: Ivory's take on this whole mess? I think. I think, well, 521 00:30:55,777 --> 00:30:58,777 Speaker 1: it's still like I I know, Ron de Santis is 522 00:30:58,777 --> 00:31:01,937 Speaker 1: really getting pushed to run, and if he did, I 523 00:31:01,977 --> 00:31:04,777 Speaker 1: think he would really have a big chance of winning. 524 00:31:05,337 --> 00:31:09,337 Speaker 1: Um Trump still has a huge support system behind him, 525 00:31:09,737 --> 00:31:12,777 Speaker 1: and I think if run DeSantis doesn't win, doesn't run, 526 00:31:13,057 --> 00:31:15,737 Speaker 1: and Trump doesn't in a free and fair election, I 527 00:31:15,777 --> 00:31:18,177 Speaker 1: think that Trump would win. I don't think we have 528 00:31:18,217 --> 00:31:20,577 Speaker 1: free and fair elections right now, so the chances a 529 00:31:20,617 --> 00:31:23,737 Speaker 1: Democrat will win are really big, even though Democrats are 530 00:31:23,817 --> 00:31:28,217 Speaker 1: very unpopular right now. I think that the Democrat Party 531 00:31:28,337 --> 00:31:29,937 Speaker 1: right now is really trying to figure out how to 532 00:31:29,977 --> 00:31:32,177 Speaker 1: get rid of Joe Biden. They know that he is 533 00:31:32,217 --> 00:31:35,817 Speaker 1: for sure not a good not a good option for 534 00:31:35,857 --> 00:31:38,817 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, so they want to they want to 535 00:31:38,857 --> 00:31:43,817 Speaker 1: get rid of him. But I think in a free 536 00:31:43,817 --> 00:31:46,097 Speaker 1: and fair election, Trump's gonna win. But honestly, I feel 537 00:31:46,097 --> 00:31:49,617 Speaker 1: like a Democrat's gonna win because what I've seen from 538 00:31:49,617 --> 00:31:53,337 Speaker 1: elections is very disappointing. They're not secure, so so you 539 00:31:53,537 --> 00:31:56,497 Speaker 1: there's a inherent citicism here. You just think, at this point, 540 00:31:56,857 --> 00:31:59,177 Speaker 1: even if we should win, we may lose. So that's 541 00:31:59,217 --> 00:32:01,377 Speaker 1: a that's kind of a that's kind of a sad one. 542 00:32:01,537 --> 00:32:04,297 Speaker 1: What else Ivory in your work these days? Just for 543 00:32:04,337 --> 00:32:07,377 Speaker 1: everybody who may go to your YouTube before we both 544 00:32:07,417 --> 00:32:10,857 Speaker 1: get strikes on YouTube for this conversation probably and maybe 545 00:32:10,897 --> 00:32:12,937 Speaker 1: get banned from the internet. You know, you spoke to 546 00:32:12,977 --> 00:32:17,337 Speaker 1: Ivory Hecker. I'll be like, yeah, she's cool. I know. Ivory, Like, 547 00:32:17,377 --> 00:32:19,457 Speaker 1: what did I do all of a sudden, All of 548 00:32:19,497 --> 00:32:21,577 Speaker 1: a sudden, my bank cards aren't going to work, you know, 549 00:32:21,777 --> 00:32:24,537 Speaker 1: credit card companies, no more payment processes for me? Like, 550 00:32:24,537 --> 00:32:28,457 Speaker 1: what do I do? I spoke, Ivory? Oh spoke? What 551 00:32:28,537 --> 00:32:29,777 Speaker 1: are you? What are you focused on? What are you 552 00:32:29,857 --> 00:32:32,297 Speaker 1: working on the show? I mean Ivory Hecker on YouTube, 553 00:32:32,497 --> 00:32:35,257 Speaker 1: that's where you could subscribe. But what's kind of top 554 00:32:35,257 --> 00:32:36,817 Speaker 1: of mind for you? What are the things that you're 555 00:32:36,817 --> 00:32:41,017 Speaker 1: really focused in on? Well, this past week I was 556 00:32:41,057 --> 00:32:43,097 Speaker 1: trying to help connect the dots and what happened with 557 00:32:43,137 --> 00:32:45,297 Speaker 1: Project Fairy Toss. A ton of my viewers we're wanting 558 00:32:45,297 --> 00:32:47,017 Speaker 1: to know about that, And obviously I have a big 559 00:32:47,057 --> 00:32:50,017 Speaker 1: inside scoop because I worked with them directly and I'm 560 00:32:50,057 --> 00:32:53,137 Speaker 1: friends with a lot of their people. So that was 561 00:32:53,657 --> 00:32:56,457 Speaker 1: something I was really working on this past week. Prior 562 00:32:56,497 --> 00:32:59,137 Speaker 1: to that, we broke a big story. I broke a 563 00:32:59,177 --> 00:33:06,297 Speaker 1: story exclusively on my page first about FBI now targeting Catholics, 564 00:33:06,697 --> 00:33:10,777 Speaker 1: the original traditional Catholics are apparently a concern for the FBI. 565 00:33:11,737 --> 00:33:14,697 Speaker 1: A memo and internal memo was leaked about their plans 566 00:33:14,777 --> 00:33:19,537 Speaker 1: to to scrutinize Catholics to figure out if they're terrorists, 567 00:33:20,017 --> 00:33:23,497 Speaker 1: and then after that was leaked, the FBI retract and said, 568 00:33:24,017 --> 00:33:27,177 Speaker 1: we're sorry, but that was you know, I think it's 569 00:33:27,217 --> 00:33:29,897 Speaker 1: really special to be able to be an independent journalist 570 00:33:29,937 --> 00:33:32,217 Speaker 1: and break that story first on my YouTube and then 571 00:33:32,217 --> 00:33:35,897 Speaker 1: it makes national news the next day. And so I'm 572 00:33:35,937 --> 00:33:43,777 Speaker 1: continuing to you know, explore sources and information that I'm 573 00:33:43,817 --> 00:33:46,097 Speaker 1: getting that it doesn't seem right like the rest of 574 00:33:46,097 --> 00:33:48,577 Speaker 1: the media is covering. Now that I'm independent, I like 575 00:33:48,697 --> 00:33:52,377 Speaker 1: to zone into what's the media not covering because the 576 00:33:52,377 --> 00:33:54,657 Speaker 1: biggest way the media lies right now is through omission, 577 00:33:55,377 --> 00:33:57,537 Speaker 1: and so if I can help fill in the blanks 578 00:33:57,537 --> 00:34:00,257 Speaker 1: to give people a full picture of what's really happening, 579 00:34:00,737 --> 00:34:04,097 Speaker 1: That's what I try to do these days, which is 580 00:34:04,177 --> 00:34:07,897 Speaker 1: sometimes tough on YouTube because there's a reason that they 581 00:34:07,897 --> 00:34:11,857 Speaker 1: don't want this information chin out. If the media is 582 00:34:11,857 --> 00:34:14,297 Speaker 1: not covering, it's it's a good chance that YouTube's gonna 583 00:34:14,377 --> 00:34:16,497 Speaker 1: give me a strike for covering it too, but I 584 00:34:16,617 --> 00:34:20,497 Speaker 1: try my best. Well, we appreciate it, Ivory. Great to 585 00:34:20,497 --> 00:34:22,537 Speaker 1: have you on Thanks. Check out Ivery Hecker on YouTube, 586 00:34:22,577 --> 00:34:25,377 Speaker 1: Subscribe to our channel, everybody follow her also on Twitter 587 00:34:25,417 --> 00:34:28,457 Speaker 1: and Instagram. Ivory, it's been and honor. Talk to you soon. 588 00:34:28,737 --> 00:34:29,977 Speaker 1: It's been great talking to you.