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We're going to try to help 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: each other figure out what's been going on this year 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: and prepare for the Carolina Panthers. Do us a favor 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: if you haven't already, like subscribe download the show that 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: you're listening to right now. We appreciate you tuning in. 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: Enjoy the SHOWYNDO, What Tom does? Hey? 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: We gotta go here, we gotta go he go till Tom. 15 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Hey, Viking fans, welcome into another episode of the Tailgate 16 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: presented by Continental Diamond. Your Minnesota Vikings are zero to 17 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: three and I'm totally handling it well. I'm just doing 18 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: really well. I haven't banned all football television in my 19 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: house for the week on the off chance that I 20 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: would see something that upsets me, I'm very much handling 21 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: it like an adult, joining me to talk through where 22 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: we are and where we're going. One of my favorite comedians, 23 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: one of my favorite friends, Minneapolis's own Brian Miller. 24 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: Hello, Brian, Oh, And I'm also known for handling things 25 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: really well at being really calm. So this is a 26 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: really good match. 27 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: You know. That was my fear. So this is your 28 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: second time appearing on the podcast, and your first appearance 29 00:01:55,080 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: was before the New York Giants playoff game. Right, take 30 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: it down for our audience. All that happened last season 31 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: is we went eleven and zero in one score games 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: and then I let Brian Miller come on the show, 33 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: and ever since, Oh, we have lost four consecutive one 34 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: score games in heart wrenching fashion. So I'm hoping there's 35 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: some sort of curse of the Miller that by bringing 36 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: you back on the program, I need to lift the 37 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: curse and move forward. That's what I'm going to tell myself. 38 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: So that's your responsibility this week. Your appearance needs to 39 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: wash away the bad juju that has covered the Purple 40 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: over the first three weeks of the season. 41 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: Like cousin Edie. Eddie says, you know, falls down a well, 42 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: ees go across, gets kicked by a mule, they go 43 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: right back again. I don't know. 44 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: It's a pretty weird. It's pretty weird. Regression is a 45 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: thing in the NFL obviously. Yeah, you know, see you 46 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: don't don't win eleven to one score games and be like, 47 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: I bet that keeps happening forever. But I don't know 48 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: that I saw it being so drastically shifted the other direction. 49 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: A couple of plays here and there can completely shift 50 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: both seasons. You know, you look at the Bills game 51 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: and the Colts game. If they don't turn that Colts 52 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: game around and turn it into a win, and they 53 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: don't get that fumble in Buffalo, and they lose those 54 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: two games and they're only eleven and five, and then 55 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: they stumble on the playoffs. Versus this season, TJ. Hockinson 56 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: pulls that ball in right if Week one they don't 57 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: turn the ball over a couple times. It's just funny 58 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: how it's that old sports cliche. It's kind of a 59 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: game of inches and a game of moments. It really 60 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: is painfully true. In this moment, it's. 61 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: Three snaps that would make this team make absolute sense 62 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: three snaps, because then he would yeah, you would say, yeah, 63 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: they look about the same. Because I mean that was 64 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: the thing about last year. As much fun as it was, 65 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: I had so much fun watching it, I never had 66 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: that feeling like I did with like the early dominant 67 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: Zimmer teams where I was like, yes, we got this, 68 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: you know, like where you felt like kind of cocky 69 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: when the game started. You know, even if you're a 70 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: little bit of an underdog, sure you were like, we 71 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: got this great young core. These guys are great tacklers, 72 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: and we're going at them. Because I also, I genuinely 73 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: do not think the Vikings are one of the four 74 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: worst teams in the league. I just that is just no, 75 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: that'd be so obviously, and they're even close. I mean, 76 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: they're not even the worst team in their division. 77 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: You know, me, I don't. I don't handle losing well. 78 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: So I've never been one to carry sports with me 79 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: once I leave the sports arena. It doesn't I don't 80 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: let it affect my family, my day, any of those things. 81 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: But we've talked about this right where like you for 82 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, you're the maddest person in the world. 83 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: Yes, and you let it go absolutely and but I 84 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: am in this little mini losing streak. I am harkening 85 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: upon an experience in which I was a member of 86 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: the worst high school tennis team I think in the 87 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: history of the United States of America. Worthington, Minnesota was like, hey, 88 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: let's have a tennis team. And three or four elder 89 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: classmen went out were on the team, and then they 90 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: were like, well that's not enough, and so a bunch 91 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: of US ninth graders were like, will play. I took 92 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: this is how seriously I took it. The first day 93 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: I'd never played tennis in my life. I showed up 94 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: with a wooden racket because I thought that was funny, 95 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: and they went, you're on the varsity and we got 96 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: annihilated on a level that was comical. And our coach, 97 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: Mike Marcuourt, incredible tennis player in his day. The lessons 98 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: I learned watching that man deal with the worst sports 99 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: team you've and we didn't like we were like, whatever, 100 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: who's got snacks on the bus, Like nobody to watch 101 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: him handle that is I think you can call upon 102 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: that and be like, you know what you can just 103 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: you just focus, you put one foot in front of 104 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: the other, don't. You don't throw a ninth grader off 105 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: the school bus or slap a juice cup out of 106 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: his hand. You just focus on the next week and 107 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: getting there. And one week could change everything. And that's 108 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: what I'm hoping, Brian, your presence lifts the curse. We 109 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: go to Carolina, things go well, one week could change everything. 110 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: Now did one week ever change an everything for your 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: tennis team? 112 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: It took three years When I was a senior, we 113 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: were average, So kind of a victory. Yeah, going from 114 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: the worst team in America to average. Yeah, that's not 115 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: a small accomplishment, I guess. But yeah, I think you 116 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: and I both believe that one win could get things rolling. Well, 117 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: let's talk about this. I think there's a lot of 118 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: people running around going this is an easy one. You 119 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: gotta get this one. 120 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: I agree with the second part. 121 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: The one thing I've learned doing a show for the 122 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: team is they have a wide reach, does the team, 123 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: And so my main goal is to not say something 124 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: on my silly little podcast that all of a sudden, 125 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: a Panther's defensive back is walking through the tunnel with 126 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: a game ball in his hands, going take that sigh. 127 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: I remember when we played my first year working with 128 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: the team, I did this three keys segment and we 129 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: were going against the Packers and my job was to 130 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: like give the keys to winning the game with jokes intertwined, 131 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: and anytime Wisconsin is in that, yeah, it's dude, it's 132 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: hammer time. Like I said, I said a lot. I 133 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: said a lot in a very short segment, and some 134 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: Packer fan found it online and I don't know what 135 00:07:55,200 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: sort of you know, cans attached to strings, but the 136 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: moment they thumped us and they thumped us, it was 137 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: like right around Christmas of like nineteen they thumped us. 138 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: I opened my Instagram and it was like nine hundred comments. 139 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: I was like, oh boy, Daddy's gone viral. Nope, every 140 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Packer fan on the planet was just obliterating me, and 141 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: they'd done research on me and my It was brutal. 142 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: So I'm never gonna say that a game is an 143 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: easy one. It's gettable. There's one that's gettable mm hmm, 144 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: and then there's one that's gettable three weeks from now, Chicago. 145 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: That's always tough, but it's gettable, which gives you this 146 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: cool opportunity. Let's hypothetically Brian say we get the two 147 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: gettable pieces of bread in the proverbial three game sandwich sure, 148 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: and then that meat that Chiefs game if you beat 149 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, if you put 150 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: it together all of a sudden, three and three might 151 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: even look better than four and two, if you'd gotten 152 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: those four wins against everybody except the Bucks and Chiefs. 153 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: Like it is an opportunity, I think to get us 154 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: on the right path. 155 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: By the way, that internet that Wisconsin is actually just 156 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: seven hundred extension cords that go all the way to Chicago. 157 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: There's just one long cord to Chicago. Chicago's paying for 158 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: it all. 159 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: One of the craziest things about this year is the 160 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: stats versus like where the ridiculous pace that people on 161 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: jj I think he got one forty nine in the 162 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: last game, so he was one away from hitting one 163 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: fifty every game to open the season. Kirk's stats are nuts. 164 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: It's it's outrageous to see. It gives you a little 165 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: bit of hope, even though it hasn't translated into wins. 166 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's fun for people. I'm the worst. Are 167 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: you a fantasy football guy? 168 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: No? No, it's one thing I had too much math 169 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: for me. 170 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: It's too much pride for me. I'm like, you know, 171 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: there could be a really really good like AJ Brown 172 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: could be on the board and I'd go, well, I 173 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: should probably take kJ Osborne here, Yeah, taking any Eagles. 174 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: I still dislike the Seahawks, going all the way back 175 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: to Sean Alexander thumping us on Sunday Night Football when 176 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: I was a kid. Like so, I'm sure it's been 177 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: really fun for the fantasy football world to see these stats, 178 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: but for me to see him, for like us to 179 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: see him and see the losses, it's almost kind of 180 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: like this extra like, ah, doesn't that burn? Don't you 181 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: hate it? 182 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: I know it's like someone's benefiting, but it's not me. 183 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: It's definitely not me. 184 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: It'd be like if the devil called into Minnesota talk radio, 185 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: that'd be his Collie goes here's my prediction for the year. Yeah, 186 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: Kirk is gonna throw for six thousand yards and seventy 187 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. JJ will set the NFL record for receiving 188 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: and you won't win a single game. Like That's that's 189 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: what it feels like. It almost feels like an evil trick. 190 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: I mean, what is it? What a minus seven turnover 191 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: after three games it's six or seven. 192 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: It feels like minus a thousand is what it feels like. 193 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: I mean, there's been several very near interceptions and fumbles. 194 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 2: That's a torrid. 195 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: Pace, and I think because they were such crucial turnovers, 196 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: it feels a lot like when I started dating. So 197 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: I started dating late. 198 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 2: They heard about the tennis. 199 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were like, the worst guy on the worst 200 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: tennis team in America wants to date me? 201 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: Pass you want me to make out with wood racket. 202 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. As you know, through my high school in late 203 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: teen years, I had an Abraham Lincoln style beard, but 204 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: instead of hair, it was zits, and so I wasn't 205 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: a prize necessarily, and I did not date. I wasn't 206 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: one of those guys who had girlfriends in high school. 207 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: And then in my early twenties, the Lincoln zits dissipated, 208 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: and then you know, I started trying to date when 209 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: I was in college. I remember there was this stretch 210 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: when I was like a junior in college where I 211 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: went on a few dates in the course of a 212 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: few weeks, and they were all incredible dates, with one 213 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: moment that I couldn't overcome. Sure, one of the girls 214 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: had told me that her sister had named her her 215 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: new baby daughter something weird, and so I just started 216 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: listing off all the funny things I would want to 217 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: name a son, but in a way where I didn't 218 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: also say, but I do not want to have a 219 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: son right now. 220 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: Oh, it's like our son will be named. 221 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Yes. It was a very cruise. That was crucial. The 222 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: second week, I just mentioned mid date a date was 223 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: going amazing that I was raised on a dog farm, 224 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: which is technically correct. I was raised on a farm 225 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: where my dad trained and like bread hunting dogs in 226 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: his spare time. Like, but I never like circled back 227 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: and gave that explanation dog farm without a deep dive 228 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: following it. That was a pretty big stumble, right. 229 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: It feels like it's a farm run by dogs, you know, 230 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: like when the you know, the dogs you see playing poker, 231 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: Like they're winding down after a long day of tilling 232 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 2: the soil, running the tractors and whatnot. 233 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: It's animal farm except dogs. That's what it feels. Whatever 234 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: it is, it doesn't feel good. 235 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: That's best case scenario. 236 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's exactly right. There's a lot of darker 237 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: versions of dog farm that we should probably keep off 238 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: the show. 239 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, seventy two puppies in a milk crate while you 240 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: while your dad counts a giant stack of dollar bills. 241 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: So I am very familiar with doing a lot of 242 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: things right only to allow a singular moment to derail 243 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: an otherwise better situation. That is what these turnovers feel like. 244 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes when you have a lot of turnovers, you're also 245 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: playing bad football. It just you know, me, I'm not 246 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: a coach. I don't understand X. But doesn't feel like 247 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: bad football. It feels like infuriating moments that have surrounded 248 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: good football. And I mean I think, you know, eventually 249 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: a lady married me, so we'll figure it out, right. 250 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can find your Mary Todd. 251 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 252 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: And by the way, you know, it's what this is 253 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: just how things go. Like last year, you know a 254 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: lot of things just went the Vikings way, and this 255 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: year a lot of these turnovers or a lot of 256 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: the non turnovers. You know, other teams are fumbling the 257 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: ball and it's just like bouncing right back to them, 258 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: you know it just the bounces. A couple of times 259 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: have gone that way where you're like, well that you know, 260 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: that would have changed, you know, a couple of things 261 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: would have changed the complexity of either one of those 262 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: games where some of those fumbles went the other direction. 263 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: So it's hard to feel too definitive about the Vikings. 264 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 2: You know. It's not like like watching the Bucks get 265 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: spanked by Philadelphia, We're like, yeah, there's the Bucks. Like 266 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: they still think the Vikings are Bikings are better than 267 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: the Bucks overall. I think, yeah, I think it was 268 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: weird that they lost. I don't think they lose that game. 269 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: They played three more games. I think they went all 270 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: three against the Bucks. I don't know what. It was, 271 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: just a weird game. 272 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing that has to give you hope. 273 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: That's why you have to you have to focus on 274 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: a singular moment that's in front of you. You have 275 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: to play well, you have to get a win, and 276 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: then you go, Okay. You see, that is who we 277 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: are because locker rooms. I've said this on this show 278 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: a lot, have said this on a lot of shows. 279 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: Locker rooms are funny places. And that's the thing. Like 280 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: we were the tennis team that would go get drilled 281 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: by Redwood Valley and we would be on the court 282 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: like Hey, well, hey, what's the snack for the boss? 283 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: Who's got that? Like, we just became our identity. We 284 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: became kind of our lock Like you lose a couple, 285 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: That's what happened last year with the Vikings, right, they 286 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: you just start believing in what you are as much 287 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: as we the general public, like scoff at sports cliches, 288 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: locker rooms tend to truly believe them and they can snowball. 289 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: So I think this many turnovers this early, this is 290 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: the week that you have to re set the narrative. 291 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: This is the week that you have to play clean 292 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: football and not turn it over. Get a good win. 293 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: So everyone can take a moment and go, that's who 294 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: we are. The first three weeks. That is a weird 295 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: confluence of events. That's who we are. And then you 296 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: try to snowball off that moment, not off the first three. 297 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of snowballing environments and locker rooms 298 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: believing their own narratives, this Miami Dolphins thing is outrageous. 299 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: Seventy points. 300 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: And it's not just the points, it's the vibe. Yeah right, 301 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: it's it's Tyreek Hill set out to prove that he's 302 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: so good he can elevate another offense to elite to 303 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: a intent, you know, left for mediocrity, intent to show 304 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: he's electric. Mike McDaniel, this weird, eccentric play caller who's 305 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: like ripping play calls that the rest of the league 306 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: is copying the next week. It's just it's got this 307 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight Vikings. That's that's what I feel watching it. 308 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: It's got Randy Moss because there have been powerful scoring 309 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: offenses before, but the ninety eight Vikings changed football. It. 310 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: You know, it brought the deep game back. It changed 311 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: the way the Packers drafted cornerbacks. It just showed everybody like, hey, 312 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: look at what we can do. And you know, and 313 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: you have the you know, you had the greatest show 314 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: on turf. After that, you had the seven Patriots. Some 315 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: teams have done some truly electric things. It just it 316 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: feels really special, and it just reminds me of being 317 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: a teenage kid watching that super special Viking season. 318 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, Daniel is really innovating and I love 319 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: watching too. That no look shovel pass that he did 320 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: that was it was so cool and I'm so glad 321 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: of it. To the concussions last year was such a 322 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: bummer because you know, I think everybody kind of I'd 323 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: kind of given up on him. I thought I didn't 324 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: watch a lot of Miami games, you know, from a 325 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: few years ago, but you think that guy didn't pan out, 326 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 2: and you know, he had to be a couple of 327 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 2: bad games away from being relegated to aspiring backup, and 328 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 2: then now you know, and you watch the guy now 329 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: and you're like, well, where was this? 330 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting. That's another thing we talk about 331 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: on this show a lot, is how just the outrageous 332 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: effect that situations have on professional athletes. The one thing 333 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: that will be really fun and that I'm rooting for 334 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: is I would like Philadelphia to lose. I would like 335 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: I would like the Niners to lose. I can't remember 336 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: if there's one other undefeated team, but I would like 337 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: all the undefeated teams to lose, except the Miami Dolphins, 338 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 1: because since the seventies, that old group of former Dolphins 339 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: makes it a big deal to pop champagne when the 340 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: last undefeated team loses, and I just think that's a 341 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: fun conundrum. 342 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a funny conunder But also I think those 343 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: guys increasingly have become like a metaphor for the boomer generation, 344 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 2: just cackling about how everything was better for them while 345 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 2: they like take pleasure in someone else's downfall and drink 346 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: expensive liquor. Yeah, you know, like I think it went 347 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: from fun to like, it's starting to feel kind of nefarious. 348 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: Old football vampires were sustained by the future losses of 349 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: other teams. 350 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, bring me the tears of a tyree Hill 351 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: to keep me moving forward. 352 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, m. 353 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Jalen hurts sadness yum yum yum yum yum yum yum. Yeah, 354 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: it's very like I met those guys. 355 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: Text chain was blowing up when they when they added 356 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: the seventeenth game. They're like, wait, people gotta win a 357 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: seventheenth game, Like high fivemen. 358 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: I do like to think about that, Like what a 359 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: unique rooting interest it was for that seven Patriots, the 360 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: undefeated team in the Super Bowl where they had to go. 361 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: They had to They probably all got together like all right, got, 362 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna get together. We're gonna watch the Super Bowl now. 363 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: In order to maintain our place in history as the 364 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: only undefeated, all we need to happen is to have 365 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: the greatest offense anyone's ever seen, led by the greatest 366 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: quarterback anyone's ever seen, one of, if not the greatest 367 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: multifaceted tight ends anyone's ever seen, and one of the 368 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: two best wide receivers anyone's ever We just need them 369 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: to lose to Eli. That's it, to the nine and whatever. 370 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: I can't remember. The Giants always came in through the 371 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: wildcard to win those titles. To have that happen, and 372 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: to have it happen via the catch on the top 373 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: of the helmet, Oh yeah, tyree, dude, imagine the party 374 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: those old men when they were like just sitting there 375 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: watching their record disappear, and then Eli snakes out and 376 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: sticks it to a wide receiver's helmet. Bananas. That had 377 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: to be a banana's environment. 378 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god. They had to be happier than anyone 379 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: on the planet at that time. And no one's going 380 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: remotely close to that as the Patriots. 381 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 1: At Yeah, you had that Steelers team ran to eleven 382 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: and zero a couple of years ago. But yeah, I don't. 383 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: I think there's so much good quarterback play, and the 384 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: league has changed so much, there's so much parody. I 385 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: think you're gonna have a hard time getting back to 386 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: that moment. Let's flip back to the Vikings because I 387 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: will derail this entire show talking about that Dolphins team Carolina. 388 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: We get to see Adam Thielen. You know, I think 389 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: that is it's Joe Montana and the Chiefs to me, 390 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: you know, in a Chiefs Jersey, it's it's it's weird, 391 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: you know. I think you're always going to root for 392 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: Adam Thelon. I think everybody back home will be rooting 393 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: for him to be good enough to have a great day. 394 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: But that, yeah, that's. 395 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: All you want. 396 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: The real storyline is at the moment of this recording, 397 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: we don't know Bryce Young Andy Dalton, and you would think, well, hey, 398 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's always better to play the backup Andy Dalton. 399 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm so sick of seeing Andy Dalton as a Vikings 400 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: fan that that Cowboys loss a couple of years ago 401 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night football is so seared into my brain. 402 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: Where I walked in, I was like, I want the rookie. 403 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: I want to see the rookie play. I don't want 404 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: to play against Andy Dalton. It's just not something I'm 405 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 1: interested in. 406 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel like Andy Dalton has actually been in 407 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 2: the league longer than anyone in history, like even longer 408 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 2: than Brady, because like we know, with Brady, you're like 409 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: you're thrilled, you know, he brings all this clamor. But 410 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: because Dalton is Dalton, he's just he's sort of frustrating 411 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: two opponents and friends alike. I don't you know, like 412 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: he seems like a nice enough guy, but I never 413 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: root for him. Like it's kind of like, I know 414 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: the movie is not as long, but if the movie's 415 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: much worse, it feels longer. Sure, Andy Dalton feels like 416 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: a nine hour documentary at this point, like how long 417 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: have you been in this league? But like it's but 418 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: it's classic Dalton because like here's the thing. He's frustratingly 419 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: never terrible, right, he always gets you those surprise wins. 420 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: He's gonna be efficient, he's. 421 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: Gonna be efficient, and he tends to be efficient against Minnesota, 422 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: and so it just it's the cumulative effect is just 423 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: like I can't believe this is still going on with 424 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: Andy Dalton. So yeah, I would definitely prefer Bryce Young, 425 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: although he's you know, I was over firm regardless, but 426 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 2: he has looked pretty solid. 427 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: Producer Jay tells me that Andy Dalton and Blaine Gabbert, 428 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: who if you would have made me bet on whether 429 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: or not he was still in the league, I would 430 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: have said nay. They are the only two qbs left 431 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: from the twenty eleven draft. Gabbert is on the Chiefs. 432 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, I actually think Carolina not going against 433 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: the Vikings. They've transformed themselves into a fun team to 434 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: root for. You know, they have good ownership, they have 435 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: a very likable coach, they have the first overall pick 436 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: in the draft. They have Hayden Hurst. Hayden Hurst is 437 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: a very he was an awesome dude in Cincinnati. He's 438 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: a fun guy to root for. And his look it's 439 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: like Hockinson. 440 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: Hockinson's great because he looks like I drew the Vikings logo. 441 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: That's kind of the underrated aspect to tight ends. They're 442 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: so big yet not offensive line big that it's impossible 443 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: to not let them look unique whatever they are. You 444 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: remember the movie The Mask, and the whole thing in 445 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: the Mask was whoever put on the mask, it would elevate. 446 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: They're like, so Jim Carrey became very silly, but Dorian 447 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: Gray became extra evil. That's kind of what tight ends 448 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: are like. If you're like a viking ish looking dude, 449 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: but you're a tight end, so you're just giant, not 450 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: big o line, but just a giant restivet Like you 451 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: look like the biggest Viking of all time. If you're 452 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: a really handsome guy like Tony Gonzalez, you're like, how 453 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: is he looks like a handsome statue? Like a life 454 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: I was just. 455 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: Gonna say, Tony Gonzalez looks like a statue that's built 456 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 2: that you have to stand very far away to look at. 457 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 2: You know, yes, been carved him out of a mountain. 458 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and you've got you know, you've got 459 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst looks like he should be managing a village 460 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: of elves somewhere in the Smoky mountains, just like picking 461 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: their house up, Like are you okrry doll now elves? 462 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: So they they are a really fun team to root for. 463 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: I think we're you know, we're not against our favorite team. 464 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: So this isn't a matchup that I go into with 465 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: any pre existing negativity. I will say I did do 466 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: the thing that I like to do on this show, 467 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: which is I spent some time learning about their community. 468 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: And I'd like to tell you a few things that 469 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: I learned before we do our prediction. U First and foremost, 470 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: I want to not like the Carolinas, and I love 471 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: the Carolinas. I don't know what that is. I don't 472 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: know how to explain it, but part of me is 473 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: like whatever, I don't want to. But every time I've 474 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: been there, I'm like, is this the greatest place? If 475 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: you put the Carolinas together. They've got that California thing 476 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: where you can be down by the beach and then 477 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: you can be up in the mountains. It's I begrudgingly 478 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: enjoy the Carolinas. 479 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: I think what's interesting about them is that, like Charleston 480 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: is a city, is one of the cooler fashion cities 481 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: I've been to. People dress really really well in Charleston. 482 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: It's kind of like that. It was like an old South, 483 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: but like a movie version of it. You know, everyone's 484 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: wearing like the seersucker suits and the pork pie hats, 485 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: and the ladies are in dresses and everybody. 486 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, like if Martin Scorsese directed the Carolinas, yes. 487 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 2: But then you go like twenty two minutes outside of there, 488 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: and it looks like everyone made their own clothes hastily 489 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: in that morning. But I'm but I love it. I 490 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: love shrimp and grits, all the shrimp and grits down there. 491 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: Charlotte specifically is a unique place. It's then the home 492 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: a nice car, but it's just a nice, easy city. 493 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: But they are the largest metropolitan area in the United 494 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: States without a zoo. I read that in learning about 495 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: Charlotte and or are. 496 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 2: They just bad at keeping their animals engages? It's possible 497 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: they have a tiger and a lion. They just don't 498 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 2: have a zoo. 499 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: They've just done a bad job at running a zoo. 500 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: I honestly think the opposite would be even worse. This like, 501 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 1: whoever's the smallest city with a zoo? That's never a 502 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: good one. Where you're like, hey, welcome to Parkersburg, West Virginia, 503 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: smallest city in America with a zoo. You're like, I 504 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: don't think I don't think you guys should have that 505 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: at all. That seems like a it's. 506 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 2: Sort of a family run operation. Family run zoo kind 507 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: of got Carol basket vibes. 508 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: Charlotte is the home of the beginning of America's Gold 509 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:15,239 Speaker 1: Rush in seventeen ninety nine, Conrad Reid was on his 510 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: family's property and he found a seventeen pound gold nugget. 511 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: It was the first documented goldfinding in the United States, 512 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: which triggered the nation's gold rush. And I'm not I 513 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: don't have anything to make fun of that. I just 514 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: think there's so much now for our senses, like the Internet, 515 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: and like I think of all television, moving cars, all 516 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: these exhilarating adventures you can go on, and none of 517 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: that exists in seventeen ninety nine, So your baseline for enthusiasm, 518 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: like things that put you through the roof is far lower. 519 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: Even today. If I found a seventeen pound gold nugget, 520 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: it would be crazy. Imagine being a guy who there's 521 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: not even gold in the country in theory, and you're 522 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: just on your folks property and you're like, what in 523 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: tarnation is this? Like it's the power ball before the 524 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 1: power ball, that had to been the coolest moment in 525 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: human history. Like everybody, what would you do with a 526 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: time machine? Honestly, I'm gonna go back and watch how 527 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: Conrad Reid reacts when he finds a seventeen pound gold 528 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: nugget and then I'm gonna watch how his family reacts 529 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: when he tries to convince him that it's a real 530 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: seventeen pound gold nugget. 531 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: Because you know what he got to do, He got 532 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: to bite it. Because whenever you got the gold nugget, 533 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 2: that's the one thing I've learned from the movies. You 534 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: gotta bite it, see what's gold? And I really miss 535 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: a time when we could bite our money. Would it 536 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 2: be great if you were just like at the store 537 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: and you gave someone a fifty dollars bill and they 538 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: just like bit into the fifty dollars bill and they 539 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: were just like, yup, that story checks out, and then 540 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: they gave you your groceries. 541 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: That's the one thing I know about today's money. That's 542 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: a good way to get an infection. The uh Family 543 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Dollar chain. The original store was opened in Charlotte in 544 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. And I do love the guy who 545 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: started that, like just the pitch, because now the business 546 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: model has proven. It's like, yeah, put a dollar tree 547 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: up there, put a family dollar over here. But imagine 548 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: back then, be like, all right, what's my business now? 549 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: See here, in the world of economics, profit margin is key. 550 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: I intend to have a store full of products where 551 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: I charge one dollar. Like, I love it. I love 552 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: that model, and I'm really glad he won with it. 553 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: I think it's great. 554 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: Here's the funny thing to think, in like the seventeen hundreds, 555 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: the dollar store would have been the luxury spot, right, like, 556 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you got this from the dollar store? 557 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: WHOA because you know it's a very static number. 558 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. It hasn't changed at all. Although let 559 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: me let me use this moment on my highly viewed 560 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: podcast to send a message out to all the dollar 561 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: chains out there. You can't be a dollar fifty. We 562 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: were paying a dollar in eighty nine when old Dollar 563 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: Tree Jim opened one up in Charlotte. You can't now 564 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: all this time later be like inflation. No, we overpaid 565 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: back then and now we underpay. Treat us right, Dollar stores. 566 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: By way, do what we do in America, keep the 567 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: price the same and have an increasingly shoddy product. Yes, 568 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: we're not gonna stop now. 569 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. And speaking of stopping now, I've got one more. 570 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: Then we're gonna do scores before somebody takes my show 571 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: away from me. They're like, hey, did you listen to 572 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: the tailgate this week? No, what happened. I don't know, 573 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: so I fell apart. I think the team being zero 574 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: and three had him lose his mind, and he delivered 575 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: a speech to owners of dollar stores. So maybe we 576 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: should see if Chad Daniels will take the show over 577 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: moving forward. Maybe that's the right call. Uh. Maybe the 578 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: most famous single piece of art about the Carolinas is 579 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: James Taylor's Carolina in My Mind and Brian. Although this 580 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: happens a lot in music. Although you might think that 581 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: that's like, man, I just miss Carolina, what a what A? 582 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: What an ode to the Carolina's that song is, that 583 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: is not the case. 584 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 2: No, it's just a guy who's just wandering around, getting 585 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: in people's way, and then whenever he's like, I'm sorry, 586 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: I was, I had Carolina on my mind. It's some 587 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: yokel who's like choking the subway entrance. He's in these 588 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: he's into Chipotle and he doesn't know if he wants 589 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 2: a burrito bull or if he wants a burrito. You know, 590 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: he's got Carolina on his mind. And the whole every 591 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: verse of the song. When James Taylor sings it, it 592 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: sounds wistful because you're thinking, oh, I've got Carolina on 593 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: my mind. Just picture the guy standing behind James Taylor going, 594 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 2: it's a revolving door. I don't care what state you're from. 595 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to go to the bank. And is that 596 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 2: the image that you want as Carolina that's your ambassador, 597 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: is some like slower forced gump who's just getting everybody's way. 598 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: And then when you go, what is wrong with you? 599 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: You moron? Goes bump from Carolina and you're like, great, 600 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: give this guy the tourism bureau job. 601 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: I have Carolina on my mind. I have the Panthers 602 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: on my mind. I'm really hoping we win this game. Brian, 603 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: can you give me a score prediction in your effort 604 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: to remove the Miller curse and bounce this team forward? 605 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: Thirty one seventeen Vikings. 606 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: Thirty one seventeen Vikings. Okay, I'm gonna go. It's in Carolina, 607 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a revenge game for Thielan. I'm 608 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: gonna go. Panthers fourteen, Vikings, one hundred and thirty eight. 609 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming back, Brian. 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