Speaker 1: By the way, the only DJ said I'm satisfied with
Speaker 1: is like middle school dance.
Speaker 2: Really, like when a DJ plays Coolio fan.
Speaker 1: Or one to both Coolios one Montel Jordan's Yeah.
Speaker 2: There's three Coolios. There's Gangster's Paradise. There's static voyage at one,
Speaker 2: two three full get your woman on the on the floor.
Speaker 1: I gotta gotta get up. Yeah I was. I don't
Speaker 1: think Gangs Paradise really makes sense for a for a
Speaker 1: middle school dance. Oh it's too dramatic.
Speaker 3: Hell no, no such.
Speaker 1: Chris the.
Speaker 2: Wilipe please tell me, tell me you agree, is way
Speaker 2: too young for this conversation.
Speaker 1: Wait, how old are you? Sleep? Are you? Are you
Speaker 1: too young? In no Coolio, I am.
Speaker 3: I am like I would say Coolia Rising. I respect that.
Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three eighty five,
Speaker 1: Episode four of Daily Guys. It's a production of by
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Speaker 1: mane Yes, Miles were thrilled to be joined in our
Speaker 1: third seat by a very funny and Peabody Award winning
Speaker 1: oh writer for the latest show. His new book is America.
Speaker 1: Let me in choose your immigration story. Please. Welcome Flip Chres.
Speaker 3: Yo, what's up? How are you welcome?
Speaker 2: Welcome, great, Felipe, great, having you great, great, having an
Speaker 2: author on Peabody Award winner, Emmy winner.
Speaker 1: Nominate many, not many, I mean many miles watch it.
Speaker 1: I didn't mention it because I just that, look if
Speaker 1: the Peabodies are on board, look the the Emmy's doing.
Speaker 2: You know, Emmy, when you got a Peabody can say
Speaker 2: you're here.
Speaker 1: Actually, people, I.
Speaker 3: Used to say to my wife who has three Emmys.
Speaker 3: You know, I was like, you know, awards still matter,
Speaker 3: and your non important Emmys will be there next to
Speaker 3: my very important Peabody and then you want a Peabody.
Speaker 1: That's exactly yeah. Oh man, were you kind of rooting
Speaker 1: against her a little No, it's okay, it's okay, looky,
Speaker 1: looky a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to say just you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no, no no, not vigorously.
Speaker 1: What is uh? What is your wife right on my
Speaker 1: way writes for John Oliver? Ah? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: How was What was the process for writing the book
Speaker 1: compared to writing for Late Night? I'm assuming Stephen Colbert
Speaker 1: does not figure into writing the book?
Speaker 3: Is that? Is that correct? That that's a big difference.
Speaker 3: I think that's that's a big one. I think the
Speaker 3: biggest thing is that when you write for TV in general,
Speaker 3: but when you're writ for Late Night, you're writing for
Speaker 3: he right, we're s of just alluding to this. It's like,
Speaker 3: you got to have the jokes ready, you got to
Speaker 3: do everything, and you know, you started in the morning
Speaker 3: and then at five point thirty, you know, tapings, that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when I was writing the book, I felt myself just
Speaker 3: like writing a joke and being like, okay, where's my validation?
Speaker 3: Where is someone telling me this is funny immediately?
Speaker 1: And did you think about adding a laugh track to
Speaker 1: the book?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I had, I had a like a sound machine,
Speaker 3: ye sixs that I wrote a book I wrote. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that that was the biggest thing I think, just
Speaker 3: to like adjust my brain to being like, just write
Speaker 3: the thing, write the jokes, rite the whatever, and then
Speaker 3: at some point your editor will see it. And also
Speaker 3: your editor is not necessarily a comedian. They're editors, right,
Speaker 3: so they're like, yeah, no, we we defer to you
Speaker 3: on the jokes. And that was a little bit like,
Speaker 3: oh right, it has to be funny. But I am
Speaker 3: the arbitra of funny.
Speaker 1: They do notes by hand that okay, I got. I
Speaker 1: got in one draft of a book that I worked on.
Speaker 1: They they sent they like FedEx us the manuscript with
Speaker 1: jokes written down by hand. It was two Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was shockingly recent for that story. But yeah, they the
Speaker 1: publishing industry is just on a different time like that
Speaker 1: they're on they share a timescape with the trees and
Speaker 1: with you know, the movement, the growth and fall of mountains.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, we'll get this out in the next decade,
Speaker 1: probably because Yeah, the working with people in the publishing industry,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's where I need to get like that.
Speaker 1: They they have a good life, Like they take they
Speaker 1: take days off in the summer just because it's the summer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a good world.
Speaker 2: Where'd you get your inspiration? Otherwise, Felipe, what got you to, like,
Speaker 2: I mean, writing comedy and now talking about like an
Speaker 2: immigration story, like or a book based on that. What
Speaker 2: was sort of that process like where you're like, I
Speaker 2: mean I do I'm funny for a living, but how
Speaker 2: do I sort of expand on using my talents to
Speaker 2: sort of talk about something a little bit larger than
Speaker 2: what I normally talk about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'm an immigrant, So it was a little
Speaker 3: bit of like, you know, you using like truth and
Speaker 3: comedy and all that stuff, like using your own story
Speaker 3: or your own background to make comedy. But the other
Speaker 3: thing was like, honestly, like I live in New York.
Speaker 3: I lived in Boston and New York. That's my time
Speaker 3: in the States has been there. I've been here in
Speaker 3: la just like to visit and stuff. But I was
Speaker 3: surrounded by a bunch of like liberal slash progressives, and
Speaker 3: they had no idea about their own immigration system. And
Speaker 3: these are people who are supposedly like super pro immigration
Speaker 3: right or like you know, support immigration or anti anti
Speaker 3: anti immigrant policies. And you know, I would be like
Speaker 3: hanging out with my friends freaking out about getting like
Speaker 3: sponsorship for a visa or whatever, and they'd be like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: but you went to school here, like you're brilli here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right? You know I didn't even know your
Speaker 1: English is so good? Yeah, truly. Yeah, I was shocked
Speaker 1: when you said I.
Speaker 2: Don't even know you were an immigrant, right, that's probably
Speaker 2: you're hiding to them, like you're hiding a zombie bite
Speaker 2: or something.
Speaker 1: Fucking no, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: And it happens like even to this day, like I'm
Speaker 3: on a green cart, I'm a permanent resident, and people
Speaker 3: are like, oh, so, like who are you going to
Speaker 3: vote for? They would ask me last year, and I'm like, bro,
Speaker 3: I can't, like legally I'm not allowed to, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I will got a little more familiar with
Speaker 1: green card status due to recent news stories. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: were you as you were writing it where you're like, man,
Speaker 1: I wonder if this is still going to be topical
Speaker 1: once it comes.
Speaker 3: Out, Yeah, a lot, because I wrote it in like
Speaker 3: twenty three, finished it around early twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 3: there was that feeling of like is this going to
Speaker 3: be like completely outdated by the time, Like is it
Speaker 3: going to be an artifact? And it isn't it? Interesting
Speaker 3: thing is that it's actually like quite irrelevant and still
Speaker 3: it's about like legal ways to come to America. So
Speaker 3: the gist of then the majority of ways to come
Speaker 3: here legally are technically on paper is still valid y right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the maybe the mood around immigration is pretty dark.
Speaker 1: Right, cranky. It's it's a very we're gonna go to
Speaker 1: the CBS for their take on this. America seems quank around.
Speaker 1: That's one way to talk about it. Yeah, Yeah. What
Speaker 1: are the details that you feel like surprise the most
Speaker 1: of your like uh liberal, well meaning friends about the
Speaker 1: immigration system?
Speaker 3: I think it's like twofold. One thing is like how
Speaker 3: expensive it is. Everything is so freaking expensive, Like you're
Speaker 3: paying for like the fees and stuff, but you're also
Speaker 3: paying for like immigration lawyers can afford it because they're
Speaker 3: going to make your life easier.
Speaker 1: You know, even before Trump's gold card, where yeah, explicitly
Speaker 1: money exchange. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and there is a visa that's still that exists
Speaker 3: right now that is the gold Card. It's just cheaper
Speaker 3: than the gold card. Like it's called the EB five
Speaker 3: and that's like you have to invest one million dollars,
Speaker 3: not five, right, you know. And it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: when when the gold card news broke out and people
Speaker 3: were like, oh, can you believe this? People can just
Speaker 3: buy their way into the countries like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, most countries have some versions of it, just like
Speaker 2: in the same way, like when Trump won, people are like,
Speaker 2: you can buy your way into Canada for like a
Speaker 2: half million dollars if you invest in, you know, start
Speaker 2: a business there.
Speaker 3: But exactly yeah, And then I think the other thing is,
Speaker 3: you know how expensive it is, but also how much
Speaker 3: immigrants are Like really America pilled, Like immigrants love America.
Speaker 3: That's why they move here, right right. And so a
Speaker 3: lot of the times talking to more progressive people or
Speaker 3: more liberal people, you get that like, oh but this
Speaker 3: country sucks, and it's like, yeah, there's bad stuff, Like
Speaker 3: I know, obviously I did my research, but like it's
Speaker 3: pretty good compared to other places.
Speaker 2: Oh you should have seen where I left, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like that, Like, yeah, it's like, but the internet's
Speaker 2: so slow here?
Speaker 3: You have that, you have internet here, sure, right right right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's no firewall or like content blockers.
Speaker 1: Exactly, yea, and I don't think so I just use
Speaker 1: a VPN or something. Okay, cool man, cool, cool cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Felipe, we're gonna get to know you
Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: First, we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things
Speaker 1: we're talking about. We're gonna talk about how Democrats are
Speaker 1: responding to the all the deportation and you know, kidnappings. Kidnappings,
Speaker 1: I guess is one way of putting it, that are happening.
Speaker 1: And it feels like that, you know, we saw a
Speaker 1: Democrat do a good thing and like go down and
Speaker 1: try to meet on Abrego Garcia's case, but the like,
Speaker 1: it feels like they're moving generally as a party in
Speaker 1: a different direction and a more familiar triangulation direction for
Speaker 1: the Democrats. So we'll talk about that. We will check
Speaker 1: in with just how are things going with Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of good. We're seeing a lot
Speaker 1: of work, a lot of talk about his exit from
Speaker 1: the White House and how it's because Tesla's not doing good,
Speaker 1: and there's this like implication that's like, well, Tesla just
Speaker 1: needs them so bad. You know, he took his eye
Speaker 1: off the ball there and their price went down, so
Speaker 1: he just needs to get back to, you know, making
Speaker 1: that line go up. So we want to talk about that.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the new I know what you did
Speaker 1: last summer Legacy sequel that just dropped a couple of
Speaker 1: really interesting trends here that I want to look at specifically,
Speaker 1: like people I think are getting characters are getting killed
Speaker 1: now instead of like you know, in previous slasher movies,
Speaker 1: characters would get killed for having sex like that that
Speaker 1: was like the moral universe, where like if you had sex,
Speaker 1: your character was probably gonna get killed. Now they're getting
Speaker 1: killed for like doing spa stuff. I think because they
Speaker 1: just like guided meditation. Yeah, because like people don't fuck
Speaker 1: with sex anymore. They're like, what else? What else could
Speaker 1: we punish people for doing for themselves that.
Speaker 2: I thought we were back in the eighties, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, If we're going back to the eighties
Speaker 2: bring back all the just gratuitous sex morality shit.
Speaker 1: I know, Nope, not in this case. But before we
Speaker 1: get to any of that, Felipe, we do like to
Speaker 1: add star guest, what is something from your search history
Speaker 1: that's revealing about who you are?
Speaker 3: Three days ago, I was telling my wife that I
Speaker 3: didn't We've been traveling through the country because I'm promoting
Speaker 3: my book, and I didn't like the soap in the
Speaker 3: hotel that we were the body watch that we were saying, like,
Speaker 3: I don't like this smell. It reminds me of this
Speaker 3: dish soap that we used when I was growing up
Speaker 3: in Colombia. Did you ever have the dish soap that's
Speaker 3: not like liquid? And she was like, what the hell
Speaker 3: are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Like powder? Powder?
Speaker 3: It's not powder. It's like a big tub and a
Speaker 3: paste inside, and so you use the you use the
Speaker 3: like a very dry paste, very dry paste. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: a scented candle, imagine, but you just used the thing.
Speaker 5: And I went on a like easily easily seven minutes
Speaker 5: Google search where my wife wanted to talk about literally anything.
Speaker 3: Else, anything else you have to find, you have to
Speaker 3: see what this looks like. And I found like all
Speaker 3: the packaging of it like closed, and I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: but you can't see what the paste looks like. Just
Speaker 3: give me a second. That is exactly my personality, like
Speaker 3: hyper fixated on certain things that matter absolutely nothing at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's probably because you have such a
Speaker 2: vivid memory, you know what I mean, So it you
Speaker 2: when it all comes rushing back, You're like, no, I'm
Speaker 2: I know, I know what I'm talking about. And you
Speaker 2: also need to understand how this is the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: I feel like that too. So did you replace the
Speaker 2: soap or.
Speaker 3: The day we were leaving the hotels?
Speaker 1: Whatever?
Speaker 3: It fine, I just didn't like it because then I
Speaker 3: don't tell it was just like like what's the smell?
Speaker 1: Like? What it like? What is it?
Speaker 2: Just that you're reminded you of the dish soap or
Speaker 2: even the dish soap for even a fragrance?
Speaker 3: You were like, I don't like a fake lemon lime
Speaker 3: flavor or smell. Yeah as a soap, yeah, I'm like
Speaker 3: as a soap, but even as like candy or whatever.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I like lemons, I like limes as fruit
Speaker 3: or ingredients, and I'm like, this does not taste anything
Speaker 3: like that one.
Speaker 1: What do you say? Yeah, is it because of that soap?
Speaker 1: Do you think probably.
Speaker 3: Honestly some sort of weird memory of like I have
Speaker 3: to do the dishes now, so.
Speaker 2: We're Do you consider sprite something like that or that's
Speaker 2: like its own.
Speaker 1: Weird flavors, is its own thing, And I like sprite
Speaker 1: is the least lemon lime I knowing that just goes
Speaker 1: so far about how lemon lime it is. Like this
Speaker 1: it's just sugar water, we could just call it's not
Speaker 1: just a clear one with sugar. It is really good. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's this like orange dial hand soap, you know, like
Speaker 1: the orange tinted dial hand soap that like takes me
Speaker 1: back to a hotel that I don't even know if
Speaker 1: I've ever been to. It Like it's like this like
Speaker 1: very specific sense memory that I feel like it might
Speaker 1: be like from a dream, but it like really is
Speaker 1: like the smell of is like so transporting and specific
Speaker 1: in so many cases that yeah, like I can like
Speaker 1: picture everything in the hotel room based on the orange
Speaker 1: dial hand so.
Speaker 2: I recently bought like a hand soap that it's kind
Speaker 2: of coca nutty, and I immediately thought of my grandmother's
Speaker 2: house because she used to have like a Coca nutty
Speaker 2: hand soap and I hated it as a kid, Like
Speaker 2: I was like, this is so weird. But then like
Speaker 2: using this one, I was like, I don't know, why
Speaker 2: fuck with this? And I recently put it to you them,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is from my grandma's house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Using this as like a transportive, transportative method to get
Speaker 2: back to those memories. But yeah, shout out sense, shout
Speaker 2: out scent memories, shout.
Speaker 1: Out sent memory. What is something you thinks underrated? Felipe Uh, I.
Speaker 3: Was thinking a lot about this one. I'm gonna make
Speaker 3: both of my underrated and my overrated things about sports,
Speaker 3: I think because I have to say it here in
Speaker 3: this country. Soccer. Soccer is incredibly underrated, underrated. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: my favorite sport. It's incredible. It's insane, absurd, the level
Speaker 3: of athleticism that you have to have to play it,
Speaker 3: and like people run, like those players run like six
Speaker 3: miles twelve miles every three days. And I'm like, it's
Speaker 3: not about the goals. Also, like there's really cool goals.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, So soccer is a big thing
Speaker 3: that I think is underrated here.
Speaker 2: Who's your who's your team? I mean probably obviously the
Speaker 2: Columbia national team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Columbia national team, which, as they say in the book,
Speaker 3: like Columbia is a great nation whose people will never
Speaker 3: let you down unless they play for the men's national team,
Speaker 3: which because they will always let you down.
Speaker 1: Shout out Davids, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Ersal Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and it Spina actually
Speaker 3: played for my favorite club, which is Arsenal in London.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I'm right there, bro, I know That's why
Speaker 2: I said, let me vibe check real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are riding high right now, right Madrid?
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking beauty. That was Oh my god. I love
Speaker 2: throwing it in the haters. There's so many real Madrid
Speaker 2: fans were like, just wait, bro, have you heard have
Speaker 2: you heard of We're gonna We're gonna win.
Speaker 1: Back it now? Y'all? Y'all are trash anyway? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: have you guys thought about it adding dunks to the game.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, maybe, like if you could like dunk,
Speaker 1: it would be cool there.
Speaker 2: Shots from outside the box are like dunking.
Speaker 1: Bro. Okay, those.
Speaker 3: You feel like a goal, if all comes from outside
Speaker 3: the box, it should count for two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many like, let's change this sport that
Speaker 1: sounds so beautiful that you love so much. Let's change
Speaker 1: it for the American audience. Maybe maybe rock and jocket
Speaker 1: a little bit. Maybe there's ten pointers from random spots.
Speaker 2: If you watch the South American League, they take fucking
Speaker 2: rips from outside the box. Like if it would be
Speaker 2: those scores would be whack for the amount of like
Speaker 2: outside of the box goals I've seen in South American League.
Speaker 3: Be cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 3: Here's my here's the thing that will probably get me
Speaker 3: excommunicated from the United States. College sports. Don't get it
Speaker 3: has never been my thing?
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 3: Like I didn't go to college here, But I'm like,
Speaker 3: these are just like twenty two year olds were late
Speaker 3: for cam you know, right right? Why is everyone so
Speaker 3: like riled up about you know what, if you all
Speaker 3: have jobs, you're no longer in college.
Speaker 2: This is this is my theory about it, Felipe, because
Speaker 2: the reason I really love football, let's call it football,
Speaker 2: that's what that's what it's called. Is the sort of
Speaker 2: tribalism around the supporter culture. Like everybody has a club,
Speaker 2: everybody is devoted to their their respective club or national team.
Speaker 2: They will, they will dress up, they will get together
Speaker 2: on match days to experience it all. And I think
Speaker 2: college football is the closest thing in America that we
Speaker 2: have that's lovocalized enough that even if you live in Nebraska,
Speaker 2: where you have no professional sports team, you have a
Speaker 2: college team that allows you to be like, we are Nebraska,
Speaker 2: this is our team. We fuck with them, these are enemies.
Speaker 2: So I think that's the one parallel I see. But
Speaker 2: the difference being is they don't have the fun chance
Speaker 2: and so yeah, like.
Speaker 3: The cancer soccer amazing, but I get that actually, like
Speaker 3: this is the first time someone's like presented that like
Speaker 3: that way of looking at it, Like I understand that
Speaker 3: a little bit more. It's it really is just like
Speaker 3: one of those things where like it's so weird to me.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll see like a grown man with like a
Speaker 3: like a ku like jacket and I'm like you, sir,
Speaker 3: you you have daughters. And then I presume I.
Speaker 1: Didn't cry at either of their births, but did cry
Speaker 1: the last time that team oh Man, when Rafel Friends
Speaker 1: was there, man Al yeah, and it is getting each Sorry,
Speaker 1: you know, the list goes on. Damn why were they
Speaker 1: so French? Joel And yeah, I mean we were not
Speaker 1: familiar with your game. It's it's now basically becoming more
Speaker 1: of more like corporations where you are hiring people out,
Speaker 1: like the way that the system is set up. Like
Speaker 1: at first it was you they were on. The athletes
Speaker 1: were only paid with their education, which was not good
Speaker 1: because this amorphous entity, the NCAA is making all the
Speaker 1: money and just like not sharing any of it with
Speaker 1: the athletes. But they they then switched it and now
Speaker 1: it's just this weird thing where like people change teams constantly.
Speaker 1: Like it almost feels like when somebody is like, oh,
Speaker 1: you want to do it your way, fine, and they
Speaker 1: like make it bad on purpose, you know, like they've
Speaker 1: just like not put any rules in to make it
Speaker 1: so that any team keeps players that like are there.
Speaker 1: It's just everybody has to switch constantly. But anyways, it
Speaker 1: is I get what you're saying, Like from an outside perspective,
Speaker 1: I feel like it would be like what the fuck
Speaker 1: is anybody talking about there?
Speaker 3: Totally Yeah, it's totally like I didn't grow up with
Speaker 3: this It's like when you go to your like like
Speaker 3: a friend's house, and everyone's like, oh, for dinner, we're
Speaker 3: gonna have my favorite like tune Apasta or whatever, and
Speaker 3: it's like you're like everyone I Likesta, but it's like
Speaker 3: everyone in the home is like this is amazing, and.
Speaker 6: You're like, don't forget dance to Castle Dance Dad, Just
Speaker 6: like embarrassed for everyone.
Speaker 1: I actually don't feel that good. Could I? I might have
Speaker 1: to call my parents pick me up. Yeah, chicken tastes
Speaker 1: like wood. Hey, Miles, have you ever gone over our
Speaker 1: friend's house? The food just ain't no good? No good
Speaker 1: from a bottle of k your pick? Take? That verse
Speaker 1: is mind blowing to me? What fun? What an unexplored
Speaker 1: direction that rap could have taken. Where if they had
Speaker 1: gone with that verse as the one that worked from
Speaker 1: Rappers Delight?
Speaker 2: Could you imagine if rappers rather than starting off I
Speaker 2: said a hip hop a hip and they just started with.
Speaker 1: Have you ever got over a friend's house? And the
Speaker 1: food just ain't no good? The macaroni sug like rap
Speaker 1: is just like poor food commentary and stant like failed
Speaker 1: stand up comedy is like the direction that all rap goes.
Speaker 3: Have you ever noticed that airplane food is not as good.
Speaker 1: As to deal with how small these being that packages?
Speaker 1: All right, Felipe, wonderful getting to know you were going
Speaker 1: to take a quick break. We're gonna come back and
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about some news. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back and we're back. And Democrats, it's always fun to
Speaker 1: just check in with them. See always check in. How
Speaker 1: are they doing? They are they the opposition? Are they
Speaker 1: following up on their promise we will win? The famous
Speaker 1: promise that galvanized a nation. Yes, we've all not been
Speaker 1: able to get out of our you know what, It's
Speaker 1: so fun.
Speaker 2: I feel like once they did that, all like America
Speaker 2: was like, damn, y'all, we're gonna have to do this
Speaker 2: on our own for holy shit. Okay, so I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get on the street.
Speaker 1: But yeah.
Speaker 2: Obviously, like the number of crises that we're in the
Speaker 2: midst of are too numerous to sort of track on
Speaker 2: a daily basis. But one story that keeps going in
Speaker 2: and out for very good reason is the return of
Speaker 2: kil Mar Brego Garcia, who is the Salvadoran man that
Speaker 2: was arrantly sent to l Salvador under a bogus accusation
Speaker 2: of being in a gang because he wears a Chicago
Speaker 2: Bulls hat and has tattoos, in which case, justin the editor,
Speaker 2: you may be getting a visit to as a Chicago
Speaker 2: with tattoos.
Speaker 1: I mean when I was nine years old, like I
Speaker 1: would have been rocking the bulls hat. Yeaheah, It's it's flimsy.
Speaker 1: It's flimsy. It's flimsy.
Speaker 3: Bulls had on those little tattoos that you got, like
Speaker 3: the stick on the press.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well I used to write things on my hand,
Speaker 1: which is how what the Trump administration did to him.
Speaker 1: They just a bit his hand. What is this? S?
Speaker 1: What is this? It's the S from M S. Thirteen.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, it's that s that everybody drew with
Speaker 2: the six lines first and then you're like the stuicies.
Speaker 1: I saw banging in little rock Man. I was trying
Speaker 1: to trying to do some of those hand signals. You're
Speaker 1: trying to you were stacked in by the railroad and
Speaker 1: a stack man. So then sat Senator Chris van Holland
Speaker 1: did the bare minimum and also the right thing, and
Speaker 1: went to El Salbador to sort of demand to see
Speaker 1: the man that was residing in his home state of Maryland.
Speaker 1: Their meeting finally gave us confirmation that Kilmar.
Speaker 2: Was alive, and you know, the Supreme Court even decided
Speaker 2: unanimously that Trump had to bring him back. Yet the
Speaker 2: administration continues to argue semantics and dragged judges. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: well activists Judge Brett who are appointed by George Bush.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 2: So meanwhile, Democrats are wondering.
Speaker 1: What the fuck to do.
Speaker 2: Do they call out the inhumane treatment of immigrants and
Speaker 2: take this moment to show them that they stand with them,
Speaker 2: or do they start wetting their khakis because the poles
Speaker 2: tell them Republicans perform better with voters on that top.
Speaker 1: I'm into pits play, so I'm already it's the khakis.
Speaker 2: It's the khakis, y'all. They're drenching their bench right now.
Speaker 2: So they are making this about due process. This is
Speaker 2: from CNN quote. Democrats who've urged a different approach say
Speaker 2: they worry that the party isn't doing enough to broaden
Speaker 2: the due process argument beyond Abrego Garcia's case, meaning there
Speaker 2: are many other people. It's like, let's just not get
Speaker 2: caught up on this. This is a whole set of
Speaker 2: tragedies that we need to wrestle with. Others have argued
Speaker 2: it's a quote distraction from more politically salient messages on
Speaker 2: the economy that shifts the conversation to immigration, where Trump
Speaker 2: holds an advantage with voters.
Speaker 1: So for the last.
Speaker 2: Week, we've heard a lot about due process, which is
Speaker 2: immensely important, it's the cornerstone of any democratic nation. But
Speaker 2: also telling the millions of Americans that have either immigrated
Speaker 2: here themselves or descend from immigrants like myself, Felipe. Also,
Speaker 2: they don't really like telling people like us they don't
Speaker 2: give a fuck about them is not a winning message. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is what democratic strategists are telling the people on
Speaker 2: the hill. The politicians quote, but Democrats must walk a
Speaker 2: fine line and defending a Brego garcias several strategists warned,
Speaker 2: as the Trump White House has worked to portray a
Speaker 2: Brego Garcia as a violent member of the MS thirteen
Speaker 2: gang and an a pair in a quote apparent woman beater.
Speaker 2: They've taunted the lawmakers who have taken up a Brego
Speaker 2: Garcia's cause. This is a quote from a strategist, Chuck Rocca, quote,
Speaker 2: we have to be careful not to get sucked into
Speaker 2: an argument where Republicans can say we care more about
Speaker 2: undocumented immigrants than American citizens. So that's why Democrats keep
Speaker 2: talking about due process. We need to focus on how
Speaker 2: there needs to be a process to make sure that
Speaker 2: innocent people and citizens don't get caught up in this,
Speaker 2: And that's how we need to be talking about this,
Speaker 2: not the broader context. Like I understand the elementary logic
Speaker 2: of well Republicans messaging connects more with voters, but their
Speaker 2: message is one of like dehumanization and nightmarage xenophobia. So
Speaker 2: the fact that they're just bowing out of any conversation
Speaker 2: around that because of this perceived truth is at best
Speaker 2: laziness and at worst malicious indifference. Like it reminds you
Speaker 2: of the people in twenty twenty who would do say stuff.
Speaker 7: Like, oh, I don't really want to talk about racial stuff, yeah,
Speaker 7: because like I don't really know any thing, and I
Speaker 7: don't really have Like you don't have a take on
Speaker 7: white soupres, you have a take on any of this.
Speaker 2: You don't have a take on anti black racism. I
Speaker 2: just don't, Well, guess what our nation is fucking bill
Speaker 2: on people coming to try and better their lives here.
Speaker 2: So if you are someone who wants to govern, you
Speaker 2: better find your spine and learn how to talk about
Speaker 2: this and not just seed like letting Republicans define any
Speaker 2: conversation around immigration to be like, well, they're taking your
Speaker 2: jobs and that's why your son has hooked on opioids, right,
Speaker 2: and then being like yeah, well that's yeah, they summed
Speaker 2: it up. I don't even want to offer an alternate
Speaker 2: explanation like inequality being driven by kleptocracy or whatever, so
Speaker 2: that the old habits are coming back in a way
Speaker 2: that I'm just a little bit like this is you
Speaker 2: have the winning message and it's to do something different,
Speaker 2: But that doesn't seem to be an apptepe for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if the Democrats are able to convincingly like talk
Speaker 1: about what they stand for, they'd be able to like
Speaker 1: win this conversation. But because they're like so scared of
Speaker 1: being associated with it, because it's like so gamified for them,
Speaker 1: they just like can't even deal with like the Republicans,
Speaker 1: Like the Republicans are just like doing the he's no
Speaker 1: Angel thing, and the Democrats are like, shit, We're we're stumped, guys.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how to deal with that one.
Speaker 1: Our hands are tied. It's just like, I mean, they're
Speaker 1: tied because you want them to be right.
Speaker 3: It's funny to me because you're letting them decide he
Speaker 3: is no angel.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: The whole thing is due process, right, That's what the
Speaker 3: due process would tell you if he is or is
Speaker 3: no angel?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: I mean you know that, like even like the the
Speaker 2: police department that they said like identified him as a game,
Speaker 2: they came out and they're like, no, we never did that,
Speaker 2: did not. We have no record of this, so keep
Speaker 2: our names out of your mouth. It is it is
Speaker 2: just again like you're saying jack, like if like when
Speaker 2: when a strategist says, oh, well, if they do that,
Speaker 2: they're just gonna think that we care more about undocumented
Speaker 2: immigrants than American citizens, So we won't do that.
Speaker 1: It's like it because is that what you actually believe?
Speaker 1: That means? Right? Like yeah, or do you just not
Speaker 1: believe anything and therefore you are just not going to
Speaker 1: try anything.
Speaker 3: And also not to sound paranoid, but like if you
Speaker 3: if they take someone and put him in a Salvadorian
Speaker 3: prison without due process, that means they didn't get to
Speaker 3: prove if they are or not a citizen. So if
Speaker 3: the argument is like, oh, they care more about undocumented
Speaker 3: immigrants than they care about citizens, they could grab a
Speaker 3: citizen and be like, no, he's not a citizen, he's
Speaker 3: an undocumented person.
Speaker 1: That's what they did, in fact, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like the idea of like the argument being
Speaker 3: they care about more about citizens undocumented demitas don't care
Speaker 3: about citizens, Like no, the whole point is that you
Speaker 3: have to be able to prove things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, broadly.
Speaker 2: And I think also too, because this was something that
Speaker 2: I thought was really telling is when the Democratic National
Speaker 2: Convention happened over the summer, they disappeared any talk about
Speaker 2: immigration and embracing the multi cultural identity of the United
Speaker 2: States like they did in twenty twenty. Like the platform
Speaker 2: completely changed where they're like, don't fucking even talk that,
Speaker 2: like we even think humanly about the people that make
Speaker 2: this country what it is it is. Like again, it's
Speaker 2: a level of cowardice that also reveals their inflexibility, like
Speaker 2: rhetorically to even be able to grapple with something like
Speaker 2: this and just be like, well, they're defining the conversation
Speaker 2: as illegals, bad, no jobs, and if you are advocating
Speaker 2: for any kind of any kind of immigration policy, that
Speaker 2: you care more about these people than American people, and
Speaker 2: that already I feel like not wanting to have a
Speaker 2: reckoning with just that very stupid like cliche, that like
Speaker 2: political cliche that gets evoked all the time. Is just
Speaker 2: also very scared. It's like you have you can actually
Speaker 2: move this conversation along more than just it ends with
Speaker 2: this is how it works. This is what happens when
Speaker 2: we have people immigrate to this country.
Speaker 1: End of story.
Speaker 2: No other way to talk about it, no other way
Speaker 2: to define it, no other way to connect people with
Speaker 2: the fact that this is actually a benefit to everybody.
Speaker 1: It's like they're bad at their job of connecting their
Speaker 1: message to the humane values that people care about. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming it's because they don't actually care about those but
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what they but they're bad
Speaker 1: at connecting to those values that actual people care about,
Speaker 1: and so they blame the values because they don't want
Speaker 1: to blame themselves. Like a lot of these things, the
Speaker 1: objection that well this is like this is what people
Speaker 1: are going to say. It's like, well, it sounds like you,
Speaker 1: as the crafters of the messaging around this, have some
Speaker 1: work to do to make it so that they don't
Speaker 1: believe that it sounds like you, as media professionals and
Speaker 1: writers like, have some work to do to make it
Speaker 1: so that that is not the story that reaches people.
Speaker 1: But they kind of give up the fight before they
Speaker 1: have a chance to be proven bad at their job. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it reveals to like what being in office
Speaker 2: for a very long time does to people and their
Speaker 2: connection to those values, because for so you, you might
Speaker 2: go in idealistic, but then you're like, shit, I might
Speaker 2: have to switch it up over here to support this bill,
Speaker 2: to support this company or whatever, And after a while,
Speaker 2: the job becomes different to you and it's like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm actually just a collection of like loosely held opinions
Speaker 2: that also appeal to corporate benefactors, right, And I don't
Speaker 2: really I forgot about those values because that's sort of
Speaker 2: what the job entails, and that's why I think they're
Speaker 2: in the Like, there's a minority of people that are
Speaker 2: actually in office that still have some connection to those human,
Speaker 2: like real human stakes that exist and trying to fight
Speaker 2: for those and the people who are just career in
Speaker 2: office people who are just like, I'm going to stay
Speaker 2: in office, and this is what I have to do
Speaker 2: to stay in office.
Speaker 1: That's right, because it's better than the other guy getting
Speaker 1: into office. I'll tell you that much. All right, that
Speaker 1: guy here for I'm going to make myself bad so
Speaker 1: that to avoid that other guy, I'm gonna be like
Speaker 1: kind of shitty too. I'll be neutral. But that's what
Speaker 1: needs to happen. All right, Let's talk about Elon Musk
Speaker 1: real quick, because we're all itching too at all times.
Speaker 1: We're all eager to talk about him. It is looking
Speaker 1: like our short national nightmare of Elon Musk being in
Speaker 1: charge like heavily involved in the Trump administration may be
Speaker 1: coming to an end because he is now promising to
Speaker 1: significantly step back from his White House role. Miles. He
Speaker 1: pointed out that this was at a time when like
Speaker 1: it had something to do with like an earnings call report.
Speaker 2: Something about Tesla earnings about.
Speaker 1: Yea come went down. I mean just seventy one percent this.
Speaker 6: Quarters, so much from just going on going out.
Speaker 1: Seventy one percent in a quarter is a lot. And
Speaker 1: so the logic that he is presenting to people who's
Speaker 1: trying to get to invest in and Tesla again, is
Speaker 1: that the reason the price went down is because he
Speaker 1: just hasn't been involved enough that like they're making all
Speaker 1: his smart decisions that he usually does, Like he's not
Speaker 1: there doing the smart stuff that he usually does. And
Speaker 1: so while his eye was over here making America great,
Speaker 1: Tesla you know, fell a little bit. So now he's
Speaker 1: gonna come back, that's it.
Speaker 2: He also said that the lower earnings were because of
Speaker 2: the protests and that those people were He has no evidence,
Speaker 2: but he believes those people are being paid to just
Speaker 2: to create an atmosphere a perception that Tesla has not liked,
Speaker 2: and that's just something they're gonna have to overcome because
Speaker 2: it's not real.
Speaker 1: It's not real at all. Yeah, it has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the fact that he made his brand profoundly
Speaker 1: and aggressively uncool by doing the most enthusiastic Nazi salute
Speaker 1: since Doctor Strangelove, but in public at the you, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so. I will say this is if if he
Speaker 1: does in fact pull back from his role in the
Speaker 1: government and like think that he has to go save Tesla,
Speaker 1: this would be his self delusion working for us for once,
Speaker 1: like which I will, you know, like he's like I
Speaker 1: have to go over here and save this other thing
Speaker 1: that there's no saving, and he's just gonna fuck up.
Speaker 1: But like if he's moving away from fucking people's lives
Speaker 1: from his position in DOGE, I feel like that would
Speaker 1: be would be a good thing.
Speaker 2: But just maybe for him to not be so connected.
Speaker 2: But the damage is done, and also the dose shit
Speaker 2: will not end because Elon Musk is now just taking
Speaker 2: a step back from like the public facing part of it,
Speaker 2: Like that.
Speaker 1: Mission is big.
Speaker 2: We good here, Yeah, yeah, big balls is I think
Speaker 2: next in line after Russell Vatt from the twenty Project
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five author. But yeah, it's that that part
Speaker 2: is going to continue. But that's what's really like funny
Speaker 2: to even think, even with people who are writing about this,
Speaker 2: who are just like, well, when he steps away from Doge,
Speaker 2: because obviously it's the Nazi shit, obviously it's the firing
Speaker 2: of thousands of federal workers with and doing it in
Speaker 2: the dumbest fucking way possible, all of those things, you're
Speaker 2: not just gonna shake that perception because it's over, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like people weren't fucking with oj
Speaker 2: okay exactly, Like I feel like this.
Speaker 1: Fall off, right, Like yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: I know he tried to do that reality show with
Speaker 2: the pranks, right that guy.
Speaker 1: That guy held and that was a probably thirty meetings
Speaker 1: that he tried to hold with Like all right, it hurts.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to resume my work as your spokesperson. They're like,
Speaker 1: uh no, yeah, he's talking about Elon is gonna be
Speaker 1: the last to figure out, how fuck you here? But yeah,
Speaker 1: a recent survey show because he thinks that everything every
Speaker 1: bad piece of news that comes his way is secretly
Speaker 1: be like being funded by George Soros and enacted by
Speaker 1: the Deep State to lie to him for some reason.
Speaker 1: But yeah, just some information about where he stands. A
Speaker 1: recent survey show that a lot of people hate Tesla. Now,
Speaker 1: according to CNBC, forty seven percent of the public have
Speaker 1: a negative view of the car company, which is like,
Speaker 1: seems low to me. Yeah, but the uh compare that
Speaker 1: to like General Motors, not not like a company that
Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, fuck fucking General Motors. That's that's how
Speaker 1: it's done. That's how you say of America. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just a car company. And so fifty
Speaker 1: one percent of people have a neutral view of general motors.
Speaker 1: There's like, yeah, it's a car company. Ten percent have
Speaker 1: a negative view. To get to forty seven percent negative
Speaker 1: view of your car company is like, right, you have
Speaker 1: to have fucked up, Like they don't even need to
Speaker 1: think you're that cool, they just need to not hate you.
Speaker 1: And he has failed at that very simple task. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when people are who are driving the brand or
Speaker 3: any kind of brand have to put a sticker next
Speaker 3: to the logo, being like no, no, no, but like
Speaker 3: not like that, guys, yeah, not like you're in trouble.
Speaker 3: Like imagine if like every like NBA player have to
Speaker 3: like places a little thing next to the like Nike
Speaker 3: or Adida's logo, being like no, no, no, but like look Adidas. Right,
Speaker 3: they were with the Nazis being like.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, but no no Nazi.
Speaker 2: Kind of no no no, yeah, I still wear easy though,
Speaker 2: but yeah it is the Easies.
Speaker 1: It's like the Clippers at that one point where the
Speaker 1: Clippers had to be like, yeah, we really don't fuck
Speaker 1: with this guy. Yeah they're their owner, but it's yeah,
Speaker 1: like he needs to he needs to start selling the
Speaker 1: like asterisk class that you can have the s astrisk
Speaker 1: class of Tesla, which will have a giant asterisk emblazoned
Speaker 1: on it that says no Nazi, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yes, but then they'll also reveal they'll release the s
Speaker 2: S class too.
Speaker 1: That's right for interested parties. Yeah. According to a new
Speaker 1: report from the Global Risk Advisory Council, the quote most
Speaker 1: surefire ways for companies to damage their brands are one
Speaker 1: to misuse AI that's unpopular now for some reason, we're
Speaker 1: still looking into it. Or two to associate it with
Speaker 1: Elon Musk.
Speaker 2: It's just like, wow, number four was associating with ISIS, so.
Speaker 1: You could sooner do a collab with ISIS.
Speaker 2: Okay, then with fucking Elon Musk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know what he could do at
Speaker 1: this point.
Speaker 2: Fucked you know, like I know, like maybe in his
Speaker 2: mind he's like, Okay, they don't like the dog stuff,
Speaker 2: So I'm going to back off from that and hopefully
Speaker 2: that'll write the ship. It's not all the shit posts
Speaker 2: and nazi, transphobic, xenophobic, racist vitriol that's coming out of
Speaker 2: my Twitter feed. It can't be that either. It can't
Speaker 2: be just how off putting I am just generally as
Speaker 2: like the wealthiest man in the world. Like, I feel
Speaker 2: like the only way he could even maybe get a
Speaker 2: few percentage points lower is like if he gave away
Speaker 2: eighty percent of his like wealth to someone else to
Speaker 2: do something responsible with it, like as a as a
Speaker 2: starting point, because even then people will be like, ah,
Speaker 2: well he did that maybe, but then you would maybe
Speaker 2: go from like forty seven percent to like forty three percent. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I just don't know what's going away, Like yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like it's just there's still analysts that are like,
Speaker 2: there's still just still does offer some interesting growth opportunities
Speaker 2: and like what they're fucking robot.
Speaker 1: Slaves they're making right, Like that is the thing, right
Speaker 1: they because like the way they're pitching themselves, like we're
Speaker 1: actually not really even a car company, which I have
Speaker 1: to do because their car sales are fucking bad, so
Speaker 1: they're like, uh, instead we're we're actually did you see
Speaker 1: those robots that he had bartending a party that were
Speaker 1: actually people in robot suits or there were people who
Speaker 1: were being controlled by human operators they were not AI,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah that was good enough to fool some people.
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see either you're not gonna fool us
Speaker 1: though it is one of those rare times where I
Speaker 1: was like, I wish I was financially literate so I
Speaker 1: could like short the Tesla stock or whatever. Like, I
Speaker 1: know it's in a bad place, but I really can't
Speaker 1: imagine any scenario where it doesn't keep going down at
Speaker 1: this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like because you have the true believers who were like,
Speaker 2: don't worry man Elon's back because the stock price got
Speaker 2: a bumped off of that news. But it's probably gonna
Speaker 2: it's probably gonna go down again because that's what always happens.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about the big story. Everybody's waiting for the I
Speaker 1: Know What You Did Last Summer legacy sequel Thank God,
Speaker 1: which this this story actually has a kind of mind
Speaker 1: blowing plot twist. We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back, And so the trailer just dropped for the
Speaker 1: new I Know What You Did Last Summer. It's not
Speaker 1: a remake. It's another one of those like horror legacy sequels.
Speaker 1: Where is that like h Halloween t Yeah, like Halloween
Speaker 1: did a bunch of them where like original cast is included,
Speaker 1: but it's also the original movie, Like you know, mechanics
Speaker 1: are all in place, and yeah, so in the in
Speaker 1: this case, like, are you guys familiar with I Know
Speaker 1: what you did last summer?
Speaker 6: Ye?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that ship in theaters. It's uh, it's
Speaker 1: some kids are out for a joy ride, hit somebody
Speaker 1: with their car and then like they're like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to Harvard next year. I can't I can't have this
Speaker 1: on my record. And so they like just dispose of
Speaker 1: the body and are like, we swear to never tell
Speaker 1: anyone what happened.
Speaker 2: Also, the laziest, laziest disposal of a dead body, they
Speaker 2: just threw it off a dock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just throw it in the water. Let's out
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Don't just throw it right off the dock right there,
Speaker 2: Like okay, sure.
Speaker 1: And then the next summer they start getting picked off
Speaker 1: one by one with little notes that say, I know
Speaker 1: what you did last summer. That's how I read it
Speaker 1: in my mind, I know you did last summer. Freddy
Speaker 1: Prinn's junior, Jennifer Love hewittt, Sarah Ryan, Michelle gells Ryan,
Speaker 1: Philip Phillippy. I don't know Anyways, the Legacy sequels out.
Speaker 1: Freddy Prinz and Jennifer Love Hewitt are both in the
Speaker 1: sequel looking embarrassed to be in this trailer. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: uh it So the trailer has multiple deaths where it
Speaker 1: made me that involves SPA treatments like it. The whole
Speaker 1: first thing is somebody is like, hey, babe, why don't
Speaker 1: you go up and listen to that guided meditation you like?
Speaker 1: And then while she's like taking a bath bomb like
Speaker 1: guided meditation, her boyfriend is like brutally slain in a Oh. Also,
Speaker 1: the killer in the first one, and I didn't think
Speaker 1: this was very successful at all, was like a maritime
Speaker 1: themed killer, like he had a hook and yellow slicker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yellow slicker looked like he just stepped off of like
Speaker 1: Deadliest Catch.
Speaker 3: A lighthouse is an old lighthouse keeper.
Speaker 1: Drinking buddies with a Gordon's Fishermen or something. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just reminded me, yeah of like
Speaker 1: a fish sticks commercial, right, you know, like the and anyways,
Speaker 1: they're sticking with that because he gets like hooked by
Speaker 1: some manner of like fishing equipment while she's doing her
Speaker 1: bath bomb. But then it like flashes forward to like
Speaker 1: I think it shows one of the characters in like
Speaker 1: a cold plunge room, like one of those rooms where
Speaker 1: you're doing cold So it's like multiple spa spa based murders,
Speaker 1: which made me I mean now that you say it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it just made me wonder because like that
Speaker 1: is what like it was like, for feeling the good
Speaker 1: feeling of having sex, you are repaid by being murdered
Speaker 1: by these slashers. I feel like that was always the
Speaker 1: kind of tacit morality underlying it wasn't like explicitly stated
Speaker 1: other than in like Scream two, but that was always
Speaker 1: like the ideas like these movies are just like America's
Speaker 1: puritanical roots, like bubbling up and being like sex is bad,
Speaker 1: we're all having sex, We're all gonna die, We're all
Speaker 1: gonna be killed by like these demon characters. But because
Speaker 1: like nobody has sex anymore, it's like the naughtiest thing
Speaker 1: that they can think of is like doing spa treatments.
Speaker 2: Well, because then I guess it offers the promise of
Speaker 2: titillation with implied nudity if you're in a bad something
Speaker 2: like it's so removed in that sense or so like, well,
Speaker 2: I mean they're naked, right, but they're just not doing
Speaker 2: sex anymore because movies are sexless now. Anyways, it's another
Speaker 2: It has the same problem as one of my favorite movies,
Speaker 2: Jaws two, where the first movie has a scenario, has
Speaker 2: a premise that requires multiple characters to be like, how
Speaker 2: is this happening?
Speaker 1: This is so weird. This is like a one in
Speaker 1: a trillion scenario, and then like the same thing is
Speaker 1: happens again, but like twenty years later to a completely
Speaker 1: new group of people. I guess in the first batch
Speaker 1: of sequels at least was happening to the same person.
Speaker 1: But this is like, yeah, I don't know, man, this
Speaker 1: keeps happening here. It's so weird. But all right, So
Speaker 1: this is the detail. This is the plot twist that
Speaker 1: our writer JM found out about the original movie. So
Speaker 1: the original movie was actually based on a ya book
Speaker 1: by Lewis Duncan or Lois Lois Lois Louise Duncan. It
Speaker 1: was a thriller, so it was not a slasher movie.
Speaker 1: There were no gruesome deaths. It was just like they
Speaker 1: did the original thing and then had to deal with
Speaker 1: the guilt and also somebody being like, I know what
Speaker 1: you did last summer. But the person who said I
Speaker 1: know what you did last summer was not a maritime
Speaker 1: themed a fish sticks themed slasher monster killing them all
Speaker 1: one by one. Hollywood turned it into that. So they
Speaker 1: piled like the premise of Scream on top of this
Speaker 1: young adult novel, which probably could have worked easily without
Speaker 1: being a slasher movie. But this is particularly fucked up
Speaker 1: because the author of that ya novel, who sold the
Speaker 1: rights to them to make this into a movie, her
Speaker 1: daughter was the victim of an unsolved murder, and she
Speaker 1: said specifically they did not consult her. She was horrified
Speaker 1: at what they did with her novel because she said,
Speaker 1: quote it made murder seem like a game, and the
Speaker 1: studio was like, we actually didn't know about your daughter,
Speaker 1: and we expressed the utmost compassion, and specifically they were
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd be a monster not to feel compassion.
Speaker 1: And then they just kept churning out sequels and remakes regardless. Man,
Speaker 1: well this is again.
Speaker 2: I can't I love shit from my childhood coming back,
Speaker 2: or not really coming. I'm nostalgic, but not to the
Speaker 2: point where like I need to remind it that I'm old.
Speaker 2: Like Freddie Prince Junior and Jennifer Ukewit too. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just like this is the same thing we're talking about,
Speaker 2: like with Vamp, like with Sinners, like stop remaking this
Speaker 2: shit over and over again hoping that you're gonna get
Speaker 2: the same return because it did well in nineteen ninety seven. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and just there's I'm sure there are so many scripts
Speaker 2: on the Blacklist that you could pick up that are
Speaker 2: new ideas that are would probably do even better for
Speaker 2: even less money. Everybody wins if you're worried about your
Speaker 2: bottom line too, Hollywood, come on.
Speaker 1: Now, I mean, just look at the fucking Minecraft movie,
Speaker 1: just like did incredibly well because and again it did
Speaker 1: pass my felipe I talk on the show about the
Speaker 1: Halloween costume test, where like, if a movie is like
Speaker 1: about a thing that there are lots of Halloween costumes for,
Speaker 1: like it's going to do well, and like the Minecraft
Speaker 1: movie past that test, like it was Yeah, so many
Speaker 1: kids are doing Minecraft movie.
Speaker 2: I feel like you probably could have had that observation,
Speaker 2: like and you did like years ago, because it's been
Speaker 2: so popular and now Hollywood is like, what's this Minecraft?
Speaker 1: So many later? Yeah, but anyways, yeah, like their kids
Speaker 1: are kids want to see stuff that and this is
Speaker 1: gonna be kind of mind blowing to a lot of
Speaker 1: Hollywood executives. But they're interested in seeing things that they're
Speaker 1: interested in and not stuff that their parents have memories of.
Speaker 3: Around and breaking.
Speaker 1: That's weird, now, that's kind of weird if they're going
Speaker 1: into these movies being not being like, would my dad
Speaker 1: think this was interesting? I don't know about you.
Speaker 2: I remember when my dad would try and show me
Speaker 2: a movie. My first instinct was like, this is gonna.
Speaker 1: Be some bullshit. It's gonna suck. This fool is washed
Speaker 1: as hell.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see the andrama the strain that like,
Speaker 2: no like and I get maybe at the time, like
Speaker 2: if I had more of adult taste, perhaps, but yeah,
Speaker 2: that reflex I think is inbuilt in a lot of kids,
Speaker 2: or like a parent goes.
Speaker 1: You know what, you'd really like that? I used to
Speaker 1: watch absolutely not. Yeah, I'm gonna stop you right there, mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Yeah. That's why Miles didn't watch Jurassic Park
Speaker 1: until he was in his thirties, because his dad pitched
Speaker 1: it to him as from the author of the Andromeda Strain,
Speaker 1: like not again, Dad, and I'm like, why did you
Speaker 1: tell me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, go see dinosaurs. No no, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 3: the Andromeda Strain.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: Felipe is a Peabody Award winning writer, Emmy nominee. What's
Speaker 2: your sort of what's your feelings around writing in the
Speaker 2: industry and what like what the habits are of the
Speaker 2: industry and the stories they choose to write and knowing
Speaker 2: the amount of talent that's out there waiting to be acknowledged.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the industry is gonna eventually like
Speaker 3: find out again that like original stories are like what
Speaker 3: people want. We are seeing more a little bit more
Speaker 3: of them happening slowly. But I think the the era
Speaker 3: of like everything has to be a Marvel movie, I
Speaker 3: think audiences are kind of tired of that. They don't
Speaker 3: want to go to see twenty Marvel movies, especially because
Speaker 3: going to the movies is kind of expensive now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so like if you have to see like three movies.
Speaker 3: I'm a huge comic book nerd, and I didn't watch
Speaker 3: that new Captain America movie. I haven't seen it yet
Speaker 3: because I'm like, I I kind of didn't watch one
Speaker 3: of the other ones. I haven't seen the TV shows
Speaker 3: in a while, right, partially why I like also like
Speaker 3: fell off the wagon with comics. It feels like homework,
Speaker 3: you know, so when everything not everything has to be
Speaker 3: a big interconnected universe, you know. And I think they're
Speaker 3: they're like getting back there. Hopefully we'll get there, but
Speaker 3: you know, in the meantime, I think we're gonna have
Speaker 3: a lot of movies from like weird Ip, like like
Speaker 3: that that flaming Hot Cheetos movieple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, Yeah, we talked on yesterday's training episode
Speaker 1: about the fact that they're they're adapting toys r us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the store toys are us. They're adapting it as into
Speaker 1: a movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna make Thesani the movie.
Speaker 1: Like that's a good idea.
Speaker 2: That's a slash reflick though it's about like a brain parasite.
Speaker 1: Attached.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, it's contagion, but it's actually contagion.
Speaker 1: They just rebranded it because people are drinking Tosani throughout
Speaker 1: uh Felipe Torre's medina. What a pleasure happening having you
Speaker 1: on the daily zeitgeist? Where can people find you? Follow
Speaker 1: you all that good stuff? And where can they find
Speaker 1: your book?
Speaker 3: My book is basically at every like bookstore, every indie
Speaker 3: bookstore you want, you can. If you want to buy
Speaker 3: it off Amazon, sure you can buy it of Amazon too.
Speaker 3: You can buy it on bookshop dot org. Wherever you
Speaker 3: want to buy it. Go to your local bookstore. I
Speaker 3: think this Saturday is Indie Bookstore Day, so that's like
Speaker 3: a fun plan go out there. You can find me
Speaker 3: on social media. I'm at Philip Petari's Medina on Instagram.
Speaker 3: I'm at Philippe Team Medina with two A's Medina on Twitter.
Speaker 3: And I think like phillipitaris Medina dot Blue sky dot
Speaker 3: all that stuff on Blue Sky. I have a substack
Speaker 3: called not from Here, so you can just look for
Speaker 3: Phillipitars media substack. And yeah, and if you're in La,
Speaker 3: I'm doing a book event this Saturday at Village Well
Speaker 3: in Culver City, if you want to come and be
Speaker 3: talking to my friend who's a very funny comedian from
Speaker 3: Venezuela whose name is Joannah Houseman. We met in New York.
Speaker 3: We're big pals, so it's gonna be really fun.
Speaker 1: That sounds awesome. Is there of media that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've been reading this novel by Karen Russell. She
Speaker 3: wrote a novel called Twemplane a couple of years ago
Speaker 3: which has a very interesting thing where like it was
Speaker 3: not nominated for the Pulitzer Prize, and then the Pulitzer
Speaker 3: Prize was like, no one wins this year just because
Speaker 3: they're like, we couldn't agree on who wins, so no
Speaker 3: one won that year. Interesting, it was super weird. But
Speaker 3: that I read that novel and it was really good
Speaker 3: and actually has a new novel called The Antidote, and
Speaker 3: I've been like, it's like it's a big book about
Speaker 3: the dust bowl, and you're like, oh, this might be
Speaker 3: like a big heavy thing, and it's just super fun,
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 1: I love the dust Ball. What's the name of the novel.
Speaker 3: The Antidote, because it's about like a witch who lives
Speaker 3: in the dust ball and her name is the Antidote.
Speaker 3: Very cool book.
Speaker 1: I highly recommend h that sounds incredible. Miles Where can
Speaker 1: people find you? Is there a work of media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, can find me everywhere that has at symbols
Speaker 2: At Miles of Gray. You can find Jack and I
Speaker 2: talking about the NBA on Miles and jackot mad mens
Speaker 2: and you can also when last night like look you know,
Speaker 2: or the day before technically, but yeah, you know, had
Speaker 2: to had to recover how to recover from that game
Speaker 2: one loss. And also find me talking about the reality
Speaker 2: show that I cannot I believe anecdotally genius people do watch,
Speaker 2: which is ninety Day Fiance that's on four to twenty
Speaker 2: day Fiance. Check me out there with Sophia Alexandra. A
Speaker 2: couple of tweets like there's this like TikTok video that's
Speaker 2: been going around on Blue Sky that I've seen of
Speaker 2: this just like total zoomer TikTok propagandist who's in a
Speaker 2: Salvadoran prison and he's like the video is called the
Speaker 2: the El Salvador Prison the media doesn't want you to see.
Speaker 2: And he's basically going around being like these prisoners, if
Speaker 2: they work, they're able to take time off their sentences
Speaker 2: to just work, like making these garments.
Speaker 1: It's actually quite fair.
Speaker 2: And at Redsettle dot rs Red set to Lures basically
Speaker 2: had uh like posted like quote tweeted this video and
Speaker 2: said one of the tasks of the American Left is
Speaker 2: to explain to retail and service workers that this is
Speaker 2: the future that America has planned for them.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then that was quote tweeted by at Papa Pishu
Speaker 2: at Beesky dot Social. Chris person in parenthetical said zoomer
Speaker 2: TikTok in CPI a tone and old timey garb yo.
Speaker 2: This shirtwaist factory in New York City can produce thousands
Speaker 2: of women's blouses a day and employs hundreds of fallen women.
Speaker 3: The best part is they don't even have any exits
Speaker 3: for the workers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in here grinding on.
Speaker 2: Hustling in audition, one way in, one way out the
Speaker 2: hustler's way.
Speaker 1: How much are they on their grind set mindset so
Speaker 1: even have exits.
Speaker 2: Just yet, just surrounded by flammable rags anyway.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then another one I like is from Stone Cold
Speaker 2: Jane Austin at Abby Higgs Basky dot Social Uh says sorry,
Speaker 2: I can't hang out. I drank some milk I didn't
Speaker 2: get inspected and I'm dying. He man, why's the FDA
Speaker 2: on trial?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Because they're gonna really stop inspecting milk as much as
Speaker 2: they should be.
Speaker 1: Tweet I've been enjoying from at girl Talks ball. There's
Speaker 1: only one active pope right now and his name is Contavious.
Speaker 1: That's called You can find me on Twitter at Jack
Speaker 1: Underscore Obrian on Blue Sky at Jack ob the Number One.
Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're
Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeike. We're also on Blue Sky at
Speaker 1: Daily Zeikeeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, you
Speaker 1: can go to the description of this episode. Wherever you're
Speaker 1: listening to it, you can find the footnotes, which is
Speaker 1: where we link off to the information that we talked
Speaker 1: about in today's episode. We also link off to a
Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Yeah, hey, Miles,
Speaker 1: is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 2: This is a track from a group called Free Whenever,
Speaker 2: and it's a really dude. If you like Crumbin, you're
Speaker 2: gonna like this. You're gonna like their vibes. This track
Speaker 2: is called Day one. Uh just super easy listen, great,
Speaker 2: great laid back vibes. The weather, you know, Spring is
Speaker 2: getting a little bit springer in La, so this is
Speaker 2: I feel like a song that aligns with that. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm saying we should go out on this Day
Speaker 2: one by Free Whenever, Spring y vibes.
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