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Speaker 1: the streets, the real the reilroading, the distenfranchise, the truth, escapegoating.

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Speaker 2: And they ain't know when we speak the truth, so

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Speaker 3: Rock out their heads and then blame it on us.

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Speaker 1: Don't get it twisted on coding. We danced it. Put

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Speaker 1: no butterment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all, Ghetto Boys in

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Speaker 1: the House back with another episode of information and instructions

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Speaker 1: to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world

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Speaker 1: in the studio. D one one the number one, y'all.

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Speaker 1: It's a special significance to that. I think I know

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Speaker 4: That, of course, brother. Yeah, man, I got my name

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Speaker 4: in college. I went to a Division I school, LSU

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Speaker 4: dand Ruge, Louisiana. And you know, if you play college ball,

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Speaker 4: you know D one is like significant because it's like, oh, yes,

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Speaker 4: you top not you know what I mean. But not

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Speaker 4: only that, my birth name is David. My Mama named

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Speaker 4: me David. And when I started to get into the

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Speaker 4: like God shows me like, man, you in a group

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Speaker 4: what I mean. So instead of V one, I took

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Speaker 1: That's dope. That's dope. And that's how you came up

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Speaker 4: There you go. That was my first album.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was your debut debut album. Man, you know

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Speaker 1: you made a lot of noise really fast, really fast,

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Speaker 4: Nah? I don't think I stopped. I think I'm richer,

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm more well known now.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying. What I'm saying is that like you're moving,

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Speaker 4: So when I first jumped into the game, I was independent.

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Speaker 4: I was fresh out of college. I got a job

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Speaker 4: song called j fifty and Wheezy where I'm calling out

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Speaker 4: but I'm holding them accountable for their lyrics and for

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Speaker 4: He looked at me and I said, well, why did

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Speaker 4: I never forget this meeting I had with Slim at

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Speaker 4: It's not perfectly man Slim. You know, he talked real slow,

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Speaker 4: not trying to be somebody. I'm not, so they wanted

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Speaker 4: a song that got real popular. Well it's calling out

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Speaker 4: jay Z, fifty cent and Lil Wayne, Like how that's

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Speaker 4: If your name is Cash Money Records, what you think

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Speaker 4: I'm in this game to be a teacher. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: if we make a little impact for you, then we're

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Speaker 4: because hip hop is so digestible, it's so much information

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Speaker 4: What does that equal? That equals retention? So people are

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Speaker 4: We could wrap the lyrics to songs that we liked

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Speaker 4: You're gonna make some money if you're successful. You can't

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Speaker 1: Money and that was did you ever meet Wayne?

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Speaker 4: No? You want to know something crazy bro, I was out.

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Speaker 4: Wayne had a concert out here last night. I was

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Speaker 4: Wayne got it. We ain't got two tour buses. He

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Speaker 4: all his clique, his crew. Right, So they all know me.

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Speaker 4: We got songs together, like we is New Orleans. We're small, bro,

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Speaker 4: They dap me off, gutta gutta macmain. You know all

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Speaker 4: you know, nothing like that. I'm just in the game

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Speaker 4: I'm like like searching out to like, oh I gotta

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Speaker 4: You heard me, So I did all that, Bro. So

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Speaker 4: was really because of my hustle.

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Speaker 4: I didn't have music videos go viral. I did a

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Speaker 4: song about paying my student loans off called Sally May Back, and.

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Speaker 4: I used the proceed I used the proceeds from my

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Speaker 4: record deal to pay off my student loans. Bro, And

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Speaker 4: that song got so popular and when so viral that

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Speaker 4: Real the daytime talk show. Right, it was either the

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: That wasn't the regular label. That was my hustle, And

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Speaker 4: because I realized that even hustle ain't enough to open

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Speaker 4: So this game for a reason, Bro, I've been knowing

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Speaker 1: Why did you choose the Reel over Wendy Williams.

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Speaker 4: Why Because Wendy Williams. When I think of her name,

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Speaker 4: I instantly think a mess. That's why your reputation is

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Speaker 4: I was like, okay, you think of them, you think

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 4: In the rap game, we got all these people that

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Speaker 1: squat Man, let's go back to on Monastery School.

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Speaker 4: Well, you did your research.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I don't even believe because black

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Speaker 4: They need to stop acting like black men don't take

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you. Let me tell you something, bro. Uh,

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Speaker 4: Tell me, how did you have it?

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Speaker 4: you still rapping about cocaine or killing people, even if

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00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 4: you sold that, even if you shot somebody before, there's

430
00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 4: a difference between narration and glorification. And I just feel

431
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 4: like in the rap game, it's too much glorification of

432
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 4: things that's gonna get us locked up or get us

433
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 4: six feet underground.

434
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm glad you. I'm glad you clarified that, you know, narration, glorification,

435
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 1: because that has always been my.

436
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 4: M O.

437
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: You know, not to glorify, you know, but to narrate,

438
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 1: and sometimes not to glorify but horrify. At the end

439
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: of the day, we're gonna speak about it, but I'm

440
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: gonna tell you I can. We can talk about that

441
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: chop in the trunk, but let me tell you also

442
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: about what's gonna happen if you get caught with that

443
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 1: chop in the trunk, you see, And that's that's what

444
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of us fail to do. Like

445
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like we're we got

446
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: to have all hands on deck, like we're in a

447
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: crisis situation. And I personally, when it comes to music,

448
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: I personally don't try to like I wouldn't try to

449
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: police what a person says because I know, especially the youngsters,

450
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: because I know at the end of the day, they're

451
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: not going to be the same person tomorrow as they

452
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: are today. Like I grew you know, like even when

453
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: I was writing music. When I was considering myself painting

454
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: the narrative, I still wasn't as sharp as I am today.

455
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: And I know now that some of this stuff need

456
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 1: to be even clarified even more, because some people only

457
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: hear one thing and they take a lot of people

458
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: have cognitive dissonance. They hear that one thing that they

459
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: want to hear, and that's it. For example, I wrote

460
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: in the verse my mind and the Mind Playing Tricks verse,

461
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: I said, I make big money. I drive big cars.

462
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: Everybody know me. It's like I'm a movie star. But

463
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: late at night, something ain't right. They didn't hear it.

464
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: They didn't catch that part at all. They just I

465
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: make big money, I drive That's all they heard. They

466
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: didn't hear the whole piece. While I said, but late

467
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: at night, something ain't right. I'm paranoid out here in

468
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: these streets. I'm busting left in the pop pies and

469
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 1: bell dot quit, you know, and I'm thinking this is killers.

470
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: And they jump out this three blind, crippling, crazy senior citizens.

471
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. They missed that part. And

472
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that happened for real, Like it wasn't

473
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: a situation where three blind, crippling, craziest, three senior citizens

474
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: hopped out the car. But it was a situation where

475
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: a little five year old kid came around that corner

476
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: and I thought it was a shooter and he almost

477
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: got clapped, you know. So that that's that paranoia, and

478
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 1: it's it's that, it's that that constant, that constant sense

479
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: of being on the edge. You can't live like that, bro,

480
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: That ain't no where to live.

481
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 4: Man, Bro, you said cognitive dissonance. I want you all

482
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 4: to go. If you watching this, go look that up.

483
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 4: I did a song about cognitive dissonance and I didn't

484
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 4: use I didn't use that vocabulary. I just called it.

485
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 4: People don't want the real, you know what I mean?

486
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: I say people don't want that real? They just say

487
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 4: that they do. Now. People don't want that real. And

488
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 4: I'm one of them too. I'm so easily entertained by

489
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: ratchet activity. Violent negative imagery always seem to interest me.

490
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 4: I tell myself, no more music glorifying evil, selling drugs, womanizing,

491
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 4: killing our people. Then I hear a song with a

492
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 4: tight beat and can't deny it. The hook is catching,

493
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 4: so I subconsciously memorize it. Next thing, you know, I'm

494
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 4: reciting all the lyrics, and my day don't feel complete

495
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 4: unless I hear it inviting darkness in my spirit. This

496
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 4: can't be light. I'm craving what I'm supposed to be fighting.

497
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 4: This can't be right. I must be blind to the effects.

498
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 4: This can't be sight. Death is in the power of

499
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 4: the tongue, and this can't be life. Be careful what

500
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 4: you get involved with. You can't support a cause but

501
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 4: then hate the effects that it causes. When we listen

502
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: to this and we would say I make big money,

503
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: I drive a big cause. Everybody, if that's all we

504
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 4: want here and that's all we want to focus on,

505
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 4: then we can't get mad when the stuff we got

506
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 4: to do to make that big money and the stuff

507
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 4: we got to do to drive them big cause backfire

508
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 4: is on us and we're like, dang, I had to

509
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 4: do some illegal stuff to make this big money. So

510
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 4: what happened when you do illegal things that judge be like,

511
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 4: come here, yong man.

512
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: It's that simple certain time. It's the same thing I

513
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: remember growing up. Man. People used to say, you can

514
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: be whatever you want to be. Just go to school,

515
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: make good grades, listen to your parents. You can't even

516
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: be president of the United States. But they didn't tell

517
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: me I couldn't be beating up my classmates and okay,

518
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't still out the store. They didn't tell me

519
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: that part. They just told me, just go to school.

520
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: I did. Went to school. I made some good grades,

521
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: you know, to my parents sometimes, but I like I

522
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: like options. I like to have options. I don't like

523
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: to have my options limited. And if somebody would have

524
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: told me you can't be beating up your classmates and stuff,

525
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: and you can't be stealing out the store, I probably

526
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: would not have stolen out the store or something. Because

527
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: I like my options. I would have been like, you

528
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: know what, I probably wouldn't be able to bounce back

529
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: from this if I get caught up, So let me

530
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: not do this. You know I was. I was that

531
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: intentional growing up as a kid. I was like, Wow,

532
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: I wanted to do something, and I put my mind

533
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: to do it. I did it good or bad. I

534
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: would do it. And so for you, you grew up

535
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: in the household with your mom and your dad, and

536
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: who who who was the disciplinary in your family?

537
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 4: Your dad the disciplinarian was my mo Mama. They used

538
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 4: to call my mama the exorcist?

539
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, who was.

540
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 4: My friends used to ca Yeah, my friends used to

541
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: call my mom the exorcist because that's the type of

542
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 4: energy she gave off when she got mad. It's like

543
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: you was scared that, like, oh, David, mama is possessed

544
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: straight up. So she was the person who I feared

545
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 4: getting her mad at me. Man, my pops, bro, My

546
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 4: pops only got two switches. It's either zero or a hundred.

547
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 4: So I only seen my daddy get mad at me

548
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 4: one time in life. And I'm still scared to this

549
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 4: day thinking about when he got mad and when he

550
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: looked at me and pointed at me and told me,

551
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: and it was it was basically me not not coming

552
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 4: home on time because what was I doing? I was

553
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 4: doing something I wasn't supposed to be doing.

554
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: How old are you not? Fourteen fifteen?

555
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly I tell you, all right, man, And

556
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if my people going to

557
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: watch this or not, so I'm like, I don't know

558
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: if I should say what I was doing, but I

559
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 4: was definitely doing something I wasn't supposed to be.

560
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Man.

561
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: When I finally got home, my pops looked at me,

562
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 4: that look in his eyes, him pointing at me, and

563
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: him like I never forget him banging his fists on

564
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 4: that table and sit you get here, when you get

565
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: here after school? When when I when I tell you too,

566
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: or when you're supposed to. Man, when he did that, bro,

567
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: his hands hitting on that table like literally made my

568
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: heart go, you know what I mean, And that feel

569
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: made me say, Man, these people do too much for me.

570
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 4: They too, They too cool for me to be bringing

571
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 4: out this other side, you know what I mean. I

572
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: never wanted to see that side of my daddy again,

573
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: my mama. That's a little more of like all right,

574
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 4: mom's mom's, mom's always gonna find some reason to get

575
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 4: mad at me. I think that's just that. But overall,

576
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: it wasn't me being afraid of them as much as

577
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: me not wanting to make them look stupid. Man, these

578
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 4: people people sacrifice so much for me, Bro, They got

579
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: they got so many stories. Yeah stuff I haven't even

580
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 4: talked about publicly yet of what my parents have done

581
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: for me that definitely changed the entire course of my life.

582
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 4: And I you know, I'll speak on that stuff one day.

583
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: But why would I want to make them look bad,

584
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 4: they didn't did so much.

585
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: Dude, you just blew my mind with that statement, because

586
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: I didn't feel that I had to make my mother

587
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: proud because she was abusive towards me. So I didn't

588
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: care what she thought if I go out into the

589
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: streets and I did wild, reckless things, because you know,

590
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: I probably get an ass whooping anyway for something that

591
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: I didn't do. I didn't you know, she thought that

592
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: I did or whatever. Right, So, when you have when

593
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: you when you have parents that you feel that truly

594
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: have your best interest at heart, and they love you,

595
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: and they're showing you examples daily, they're showing you examples

596
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: of their love daily, you're less likely. I'm not saying

597
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: you won't do it, but you're less likely to do

598
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: things to embarrass your family, to do things to disappoint them.

599
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: You know less, you're less like. And I'm gonna go

600
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: ahead and say this. I might get in trouble for this,

601
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: probably gonna get in trouble for this right here. But

602
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: this is why when I date women, I date women

603
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: who have good relationships with their mothers and fathers. M

604
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: women who have good relationships with their mothers and fathers,

605
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: and they come from good stock. They typically are not

606
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: going to go out and do something to embarrass themselves,

607
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: are you? If they get into it with you and

608
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: y'all have a problem, it's gonna be private. It's gonna

609
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: be a private matter. They're not going to the internet

610
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: and harry you out. They're not gonna go write a

611
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: tale all book then doing that type of stuff. But

612
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: a woman who just comes from a family where you know,

613
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: anything goes and you know, just do you and whatever

614
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: and not be concerned about how it affects others, they're

615
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: capable of doing anything in same way with mad. But

616
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: that's the way I That's the reason why I move

617
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: the where I moved.

618
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 4: When it comes to dating, they call crash dumbies, that's

619
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: what we call them where I'm from. Like, you're not

620
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 4: a crash dummy when you know you got something to lose,

621
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: But you're a crash dumby wheen you just like, oh word,

622
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 4: I ain't get my way today, or you made me

623
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: mad today. Oh I'm about to air everything out. I'm

624
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: about to just who knows what's gonna happen, But it

625
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 4: don't even matter what happened, because I'm just gone. I'm

626
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: just going to the internet with everything. I'm just I'm

627
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: just I'm willing to do anything. Males off females. Bro,

628
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: you want to avoid crash dumbies in life, you want

629
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 4: to that could be. That's why one of my nicknames

630
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 4: coming up was the one Man on Me, d One,

631
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: the one man on Me, cause I was just like, man,

632
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 4: I can't have people rolling with me and I'm responsible

633
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 4: for if they do something when we out of town

634
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: at a show or something like that. If they do something,

635
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: it's gonna come back to Oh that was d One's people,

636
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And unfortunately you got a

637
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 4: lot of crash dumbis who they don't think about it

638
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 4: like that. They think about it like, man, I'm grown.

639
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: I never forget being in a car getting pulled over

640
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 4: late at night, coming from a show I had in

641
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: Saint Louis, Missouri, and getting back to New Orleans and

642
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: we get pulled over and my partner and I'm still

643
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 4: cool with him to this day, but it's just like

644
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: the energy he had from the passenger side of the

645
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 4: seat for the policeman, you know what I'm saying, was

646
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 4: just something that it's like you about to mess it up.

647
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: For both of us. Bro, I'm the driver and I'm

648
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 4: the public figure right now, you know what I mean.

649
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: And I also know how to defuse this situation. Did

650
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: I run the red light? I did? I really did.

651
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 4: Am I mad that I got caught? Yeah, I'm mad

652
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: I got caught. But when these brothers come up to

653
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 4: the car, I'm not going to be an antagonist, and

654
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 4: I'm not going like, oh, try to you know, go

655
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 4: above and beyond. But when you are passenger's side antagonist,

656
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 4: it's like that could be dangerous for all of us.

657
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: And lessons like that just taught me, Like, at the

658
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 4: end of the day, I can't tell another grown man

659
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: what to sell or what to do. People going to

660
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: be themselves at the end of the day, but I

661
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 4: can determine who I'm going to have in that closer

662
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 4: proximity to me.

663
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you feel me. Just mentioned when you was fourteen

664
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: fifteen years old, you came in the house late, and

665
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: I told you, I'm gonna tell you how I knew

666
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: you was around that age. Typically for young men, when

667
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: they're about fourteen fifteen, it's when they try their father

668
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: or that mother for the first time, but especially their

669
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: father because they are now in the high school range.

670
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: And when you're in high school, you are around boys

671
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: who are often your father's size. Some of those seniors

672
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: and juniors are as big as your daddy, and you're

673
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: sizing them up. You're competing against them for girls. You're

674
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: competing against them for a spot on the basketball team,

675
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: the football team, the wrestling team. You have to be physical,

676
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: and you feel like oftentimes if you can take them,

677
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: perhaps you can take dad. Bro.

678
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 4: You just spoke my life, bro, Yes, you just spoke

679
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: my life.

680
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: Bro.

681
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: I got into I got into it with Johnny James.

682
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: He was a senior. I was a freshman in high school.

683
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 4: On the basketball court, it's the big center. I'm the

684
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 4: little point guard, you know what I mean. But when

685
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 4: I got into it with him, and I came out

686
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 4: and my nose wasn't bloody, and I was like, man,

687
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 4: I held my own against Johnny James, like just not

688
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 4: in a fight. I'm looking at it. He's six ' five,

689
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 4: My daddy only sixty three, you know what I'm saying, right,

690
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I think I got a little a

691
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 4: little outside my top And at that time.

692
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, my step daddy used to kind it

693
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: smelling your piss.

694
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: That's funny.

695
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: Are you still a Catholic?

696
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 4: I'm Christian?

697
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: Okay, you switched it up.

698
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 4: I'm Christian.

699
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

700
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: When I got to college. When I got to college,

701
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 4: that's when I went from just going to church because

702
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 4: my parents told me this the church we go to,

703
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 4: and this's what we believe in and that's what we do,

704
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 4: to being like I got to form my own relationship

705
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: with God. For those who don't know, my freshman year

706
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 4: was one for the books.

707
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: Bro.

708
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: My freshman year in college, one of my best friends

709
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: got murdered back in New Orleans. My roommate in college

710
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 4: started selling dope. You heard me, My girlfriend in college

711
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: cheated on me with a football player on LSU's team,

712
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: and I got cut from LSU's basketball team. All in

713
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 4: one year. All this stuff happened to me. So a

714
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 4: lot that I was building my identity on and a

715
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 4: lot of stuff that was giving me my confidence at

716
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 4: the time. That stuff all got taken away from it rapidly.

717
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 4: So that's when I had to lean on God in

718
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 4: a way, not just like, oh, God is just some

719
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: random phrase that we just named. I had to really

720
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 4: form a relationship with God and have an understanding of

721
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: who God was, why God chose to create me, and

722
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 4: what God put me here to do. All that stuff

723
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 4: happened that year, bro. So that's when I was like

724
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 4: I found Christianity and not just saying oh, I'm just

725
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: Catholic because that's just what my family is.

726
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, girdle boys revoted podcasts when we right back after

727
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: this sport. So you jump out, you start rapping in college.

728
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: That's a late start, very rapper, very late college. But

729
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: you find success relatively early, like, and so you start,

730
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: you start to rapping. What happens when the people around

731
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: you who've been knowing you for a long time finds

732
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: out you're rapping. You're in college to go out and

733
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: take over the world, do something great, add to humanity sometimes.

734
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: But what were you majoring in business marketing?

735
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: Okay?

736
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 4: Yeah?

737
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: What do your parents say when you decide, Hey, Dad,

738
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna rap. I'm going to do this

739
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: rap thing.

740
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 4: There you go. I didn't do the a mom, Dad,

741
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 4: I'm about to wrap. I didn't tell him at first.

742
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 4: I didn't tell him. So I was like living a

743
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 4: double life with my parents because they're like, all right,

744
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 4: how your grade's going and how your class is gone,

745
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, how this mixtape going that I just dropped,

746
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, And they don't have any idea.

747
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 4: One of my mama's co workers, her son went to

748
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: high school with me, and he found out that I wrapped,

749
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 4: and he gave his mom my mixtape that I dropped,

750
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 4: my first mixtape when I was in college. She must

751
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: have went back to my mama at the job and said, oh,

752
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 4: I ain't no, David was wrapping. Now, Oh that's interesting.

753
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 4: Like my son gave me his mixtape and gave it

754
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 4: to my mama. And when my mama showed me the

755
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 4: mix tape that I had dropped that I didn't tell

756
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 4: them anything about. That's how they found out I was rapping.

757
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: But by this time, they're not tripping because you're still

758
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: in college. Like you dropped out of college to rap.

759
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 4: Still in college, still in college?

760
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: And did you you didn't get your degree? Right?

761
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 4: I did? I graduate?

762
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: Bro?

763
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 4: I don't know if you know right now, but you

764
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: know I'm teaching at Harvard University right now. Yeah, yeah,

765
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 4: Like I like, so I got my degree a long

766
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 4: time ago. And when people on the internet here that

767
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 4: I'm at Harvard right now, Like, I'm up there teaching

768
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 4: courses on hip hop. Man, I'm doing a fellowship at Harvard,

769
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 4: a hip hop fellowship that literally like has me at

770
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: an Ivy League school representing hip hop. So I got

771
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: my bachelor's degree a while ago.

772
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: You know, right, what is the ex girlfriend who left

773
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: you for the football player doing? And also what is

774
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: this guy who was your roommate that was selling dope?

775
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: What happened then?

776
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, so he got kicked out of school, he got

777
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 4: kicked off campus, he had to do some jail time,

778
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 4: all that type of stuff. He didn't end up dying, thankfully,

779
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: nothing crazy like that. Last time my song was a

780
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: few years ago in New Orleans and he was balltending somewhere.

781
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 4: So I was in me and my home and went

782
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 4: in a spot to watch the game playoff game or something,

783
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 4: and I turned around and the dude who was taking

784
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 4: our food order was my boy. I was like, wow,

785
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, we just made a small talk. We ain't

786
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: have no big huge like, oh my goodness, Bro's been

787
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: up all these years. It was just kind of like work,

788
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 4: I ain't. I'm glad to see he's still alive.

789
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: You know what, I mean, and what about the ex girlfriend?

790
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: So that's another story. Brother. So with her, I.

791
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: Learned her married.

792
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: Bro.

793
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 4: After that, I was not. I learned like I learned

794
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 4: that man. That level of heartbreak made me realize that

795
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 4: if I'm doing my best, because oh my goodness, I

796
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 4: was doing my best, bro, that was my first love.

797
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: If I'm doing my best, say my best ain't enough

798
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 4: for a woman that ain't the woman for me. I'm

799
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: not gonna keep pursuing that man. And I learned that

800
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: at an early age when that happened to me in college,

801
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 4: when I got cheated on and it wasn't even a

802
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 4: star football player she cheated on me with He was

803
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 4: like a fourth string, like bench walmer, you know what

804
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: I mean. So I was just like, whatever it is

805
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: you saw and this dude, if me giving my all

806
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 4: to you ain't enough cool, So it's no beef because

807
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: it's because of her that I started rapping. Like I

808
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 4: wouldn't even be rapping, you know. I went to I

809
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 4: went to college to make good grades, playball, and figure

810
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: out what kind of career I was gonna have. I

811
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 4: got a late start with rapping, but it came after

812
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 4: she cheated on me and you know, you don't go

813
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 4: to therapy when you're a college student, and especially back then,

814
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: therapy wasn't like this buzzword like it is now. So

815
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 4: my therapy was, Man, I gotta be able to talk

816
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 4: to these beats. I gotta be able to talk to

817
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: these instrumentals and just get all these you know, all

818
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 4: this hurt and all this paying out.

819
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: That's the name of the song you wrote about her.

820
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 4: It was called Wanna Be Good to You. That's what

821
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: it's called. It was called Wanna be Good to You

822
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 4: because and you know, I didn't have original beats at

823
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: the time, so it was definitely like instrumentals. It was

824
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: an old Kanye West instrumental that I wrapped over and

825
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 4: it was basically saying how she cheated on me, she

826
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 4: messed over me, broke my heart. But then she tried

827
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 4: to double back and she realized like, oh I made

828
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: a mistake, Like that was a good dude right there,

829
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 4: and she wanted to try to come back. And also,

830
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 4: I want to be good to you, David, you know

831
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 4: what I mean, And so the song was about that.

832
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 4: But it was just saying like now it ain't no beef,

833
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 4: you know, but I'm good on you, because this is

834
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: what you did. This what you put me through. And

835
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 4: you know what, in the weirdest way possible, thank you

836
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 4: for putting me through that. Because since you put me

837
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 4: through that, I didnet tapped into a whole nother side

838
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: of myself that I ain't know existed. I got some

839
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 4: real grit, now, you know I got. I got, I

840
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 4: got the ability to use this gift of hip hop

841
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: that really I started using because I was heartbroken. But

842
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 4: now I see how this gift could change people's lives.

843
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 4: And that literally was the birth of d one.

844
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: When you taught math, you taught for what two years?

845
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 4: I taught two years?

846
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: Okay, and then you quit? Did you quit to pursue

847
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: your rap career?

848
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 4: Absolutely? That's when the fifteen Weezy video went viral?

849
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: Right? Was there any trepidation about quitting the teaching profession

850
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: because you know, we always say we need good teachers,

851
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: and then we got one. Yeah, and now he's talking

852
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: about going to rap.

853
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 4: Talking about want to be a rapper. Yep. So I

854
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 4: made a promise to my students. I said, listen, y'all,

855
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 4: mister Augustine, gonna stop teaching at the end of this year.

856
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go out here and pursue my career as

857
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 4: a rapper. I said, I've never made any money off

858
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: of rapping before, but people are starting to know my name.

859
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 4: I'm buzzing in New Orleans. I'm buzzing in the streets

860
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 4: of bad and rouge. I said. One thing I promise

861
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: y'all is that if I'm gonna make it in the

862
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 4: rap game, I'm not going to compromise the stuff I

863
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 4: stand for.

864
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: So my motto is three is up. And I know

865
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: you know that, I know it, know you three. Let

866
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 3: me get it, let me get what you got. Be real,

867
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: be righteous, be relevant.

868
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 4: That's it, my writer, I got you what. That's it.

869
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 4: You know what my hood is and everything right out. Yeah, Like,

870
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 4: I appreciate you on. You're a OG, bro, You're not

871
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 4: a DG. You're a OG. You ain't one of them dgs.

872
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 4: So I told my students, if I make it in

873
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 4: the rap game, I guarantee you I'm gonna be the

874
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: same dude that's in here as y'all teacher. But I'm

875
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: just gonna have a bigger platform because I'm d one

876
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 4: instead of mister Augustine. So all these years later, yeah, bro,

877
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: I've been successful for a long time in rap. I

878
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: don't brag, I don't boasts, you know about what I

879
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 4: have and what i've a master or you know all

880
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 4: this time you kind of threw me a curve ball

881
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 4: when we started the interview when you ask me about

882
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 4: like what happened as if like I'm one of them

883
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: stories of a dude who got on and then fell off. Bro, Like,

884
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 4: I'm in such a great position right now and I'm

885
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 4: talking about I'm sitting here about I just performed at

886
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 4: the New Orleans Jazz Fest. I'm sitting here looking at

887
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 4: fifteen toy days we got coming up over the summer.

888
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 4: I'm teaching at Harvard University. You hear men getting paid

889
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: to be up there teaching on hip hop and doing

890
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 4: a fellowship at Harvard University. Like I'm at conferences speaking

891
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 4: on financial literacy, speaking on empowerment with doctor Boyce Watkins,

892
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: and you know that's our partner and all that. Like,

893
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 4: I just realized that some people, not you, but some

894
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 4: people their lens of what they deemed successful is who's

895
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 4: on the radio when I turn on ninety seven point

896
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 4: nine in the box every day, whoever I hear on

897
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 4: there that's who's popular. You know what I'm saying, Oh,

898
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 4: that's what's popping. And it's like, you want to talk

899
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 4: about who wealthy. You want to talk about who got

900
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 4: peace of mind and could walk around without security. You

901
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 4: want to talk about who really is making an impact

902
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 4: in their community to where people's lives are better because

903
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 4: of their music and because of their partnerships with different programs.

904
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 4: When I partner with Sally May, we gave away three

905
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars over the course of our partnership to

906
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 4: get other to black and brown students were and some

907
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 4: white students too, but just students in general who wanted

908
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 4: college scholarships. Like I want us to start redefining what

909
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 4: success looks like in the rap gam because if more

910
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 4: people were like That's why I loved that, I got

911
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 4: three hundred thousand followers, four hundred thousand followers online, that

912
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 4: type of stuff. I love that, not because that matters

913
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: to me, but because when I go and speak in

914
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: a middle school or a high school, them kids look

915
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 4: and they see that blue check, and this ain't the

916
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: blue check I gotta pay for her, This ain't the

917
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: fifteen dollars a month of verification that anybody could buy.

918
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 4: Now this is like I had this for years, that

919
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 4: stuff don't matter to me. But that's how they determine

920
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: what success is. So what this is my goal that

921
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 4: is very important. I've wanted to be the person in

922
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 4: the rap game that confuses people when it comes to

923
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 4: what success looks like. Because on one hand, you look online,

924
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: D one is always booked. I know, he getting paid

925
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 4: to do all these shows, speak at all these colleges,

926
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: do all this stuff. So D one is always busy.

927
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: He got a lot of followers. But on the other hand,

928
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 4: D one drives a hind of a cord. D one

929
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 4: don't wear no big expensive jewelry. D one that's not

930
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 4: on here stunting and flashing with his material possessions. So

931
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: is he successful because success don't normally look like driving

932
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 4: a hind of a cord. But I look online and success

933
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: definitely look like all these numbers and all these views

934
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 4: and followers and all this getting booked all over and

935
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 4: I want people to see that, like, yes, success doesn't

936
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 4: have to look like this narrow definition of what one

937
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 4: percent of the music industry shows us, which is iced

938
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 4: out everything and pull up in the maybag. Pull up

939
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 4: in the Bugatti that don't have to be what success

940
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 4: just looks like.

941
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I already know you're successful. I know

942
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: you personally, so I already know you're a good business man.

943
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: And what's going on with the watches?

944
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's I man having to go to court

945
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 4: right now? What you want to know? The truth? Unfortunately

946
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 4: with look, bro, just because everybody your skin folk, don't

947
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 4: mean they your kinfolk, bro. And you know I wasn't

948
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 4: in that en devil by myself, you know what I'm saying. Unfortunately, Yeah, Bro,

949
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: that that's something that went left field. And I'm I am.

950
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 4: I don't even know what I should or shouldn't speak

951
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: on because it's literally a legal situation. But man, just

952
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 4: know that I got messed over bad, bad by a partner, bad,

953
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 4: really bad. And I see how, Bro, I see how

954
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 4: some people when they get messed over on a certain level.

955
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 4: I see how some people end up making a mistake

956
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 4: that lands them in jail or something like that because

957
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: they put hands on somebody, because they physically I see it.

958
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 4: But thankfully I'm in a position where it's like, oh, yeah,

959
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 4: you really messed over me. But I'm really blessed like

960
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 4: like so blessed overall in so many ways that the

961
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 4: ways in which you messed over me financially, the ways

962
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 4: in which you yeah, messed over me legally, like all

963
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 4: this stuff. That's what they got lawyers for, you hear me.

964
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 4: And I got lawyer money, you hear me. So that's

965
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 4: going to handle itself. Just take a long time when

966
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 4: you go to that route. But I get it how

967
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 4: our people in the streets who it's like, man, this

968
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: was my lifeline. This is all I had gone for myself,

969
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 4: and now you done stole this and you done did

970
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 4: this and you didn't maneuver it like that. I see

971
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 4: how people be like, man, we're finna go put that

972
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 4: black mask on the night and we finnah go. You

973
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean, catch us when I get it now, bro,

974
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 4: because that stuff didn't happen between that and me being

975
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 4: in the music industry for all these years with all

976
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 4: these people who try to steal from you and record

977
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 4: labels and what they do in terms of like playing

978
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 4: with your creativity, playing with your manhood. You know, I

979
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 4: don't have people in the music industry before like males

980
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 4: like tell me like if I if I perform sexual

981
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 4: favors for them that you know they'll put me on

982
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 4: Like that really happened, Bro, I got a song about

983
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 4: the car.

984
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: You gotta call them out. Man. You got names, Bro,

985
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: we gotta get We gotta get names to help the

986
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: next generation.

987
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 4: To help the well. The good thing is this dude

988
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 4: ain't relevant, no, Bro, he was relevant when I was

989
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 4: first first getting out of college, saying.

990
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: In his heart then, man, he already down. Let's kick

991
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: him whley down. What's his name?

992
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 4: Man, I ain't gonna call his name out. He ain't

993
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 4: even worth the he gonna get popular of he's gonna

994
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 4: get relevant again off of that, Like, I ain't gonna

995
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 4: do it. I almost want to call out the names

996
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 4: of these these all this tool bro who just like

997
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 4: they just intentionally ignorant. Bro, it's not unintentional ignorance. It's

998
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 4: intentional ignorance.

999
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: Bro.

1000
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 4: And I promise you, I'm just like, oh, you wanna

1001
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 4: go viral right quickly? He called his name out, call

1002
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 4: his name out like I said, I called him gray

1003
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: hair clout chasers because you're literally so old that you

1004
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 4: got gray hair now, bro, but you're still clout chasing

1005
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 4: or you sitting here like one thing I didn't enjoy

1006
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 4: was Joe Budden when NBA young boy who's from my state,

1007
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 4: did an interview on Billboard. I don't know if you

1008
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 4: saw it. He was like, man, he was almost in

1009
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 4: tears in the interview. Man, I realize how many people

1010
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 4: I led astray with my music, and I really want

1011
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 4: to do better. You know what I'm saying. This is

1012
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 4: what he's saying in the interview. He's shaking in the interview,

1013
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 4: his voice trembling, and everything he talked about all I

1014
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 4: heard he experienced coming up and he want to do

1015
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 4: better now. Me as a teacher, I'm looking at it

1016
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 4: like that's how a student looks when they are having

1017
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 4: a vulnerable moment and when they're scared and they terrified.

1018
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 4: Y'all just so happen. They had the cameras rolling and

1019
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 4: catch that. But this is when mentors need to come

1020
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 4: to be next to a person like this and to

1021
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 4: be able to like nurture that energy and help, you know,

1022
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 4: help that be something that they continue to move in

1023
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 4: that type of direction. I saw Joe Budden come out, man,

1024
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 4: being a young boy lying to y'all. Man, he's just

1025
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: trying to go viral. Man, He faking man, like he

1026
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 4: ain't finna do that. Da da da da da. And

1027
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 4: I'm just like as messed up.

1028
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: Bro.

1029
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 4: You know, I was a Joe Budden fan when he

1030
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 4: was a rapper. He rap about being in group homes,

1031
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 4: He rap about all the emotional distress he went through

1032
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 4: as a kid coming up, all that type of stuff.

1033
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 4: What if people gave up on him like that? You

1034
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

1035
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: I know how long ago was this interview?

1036
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: Oh, this was a few months ago. I've taught on

1037
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 4: this in my in my classes up at Harvard. Bro,

1038
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 4: Like I showed this interview. I want to say. It

1039
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 4: came out in January on Billboard. I sent it to

1040
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 4: your phone. Yeah, oh bro, when you see this interview,

1041
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 4: We're gonna watch it right after this interview, and I

1042
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 4: want to know your thoughts on it, Like cause, Bro,

1043
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 4: I'm from the streets. Bro, you know what I'm saying.

1044
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: I'm not no dude that was participating, but I'm from

1045
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 4: that element, so I know. Also when somebody is just

1046
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 4: stunting for the camera or they trying to play a role,

1047
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, versus like, man, he having

1048
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 4: a real moment right now. You know what I'm saying.

1049
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 4: I didn't really taught to students who I'm on the

1050
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 4: phone yesterday with my former student, you know, Fredo Bang.

1051
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: Absolutely what fred that's my.

1052
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 4: Student, bro, Yeah, that was my student. That was my

1053
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 4: middle school student.

1054
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: That's my dude.

1055
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: Man.

1056
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: Man, I'm on FaceTime with him yesterday talking brother. Me

1057
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 4: and fred are talking about financial literacy, were talking about investments,

1058
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 4: were talking about paying up, paying taxes, were talking about

1059
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 4: payroll and staff and team and just grown man stuff. Bro,

1060
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, grown man business. Like It's

1061
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 4: amazing for me to see that and to understand that,

1062
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 4: like this brother trust me, This brother trust me.

1063
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: I got it.

1064
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 4: So even when he make mistakes or do things that

1065
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 4: I disagree with, just like sometimes you might be like,

1066
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 4: oh Diadan jumped out there on Instagram and said this

1067
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 4: or say this about this issue. You might not agree

1068
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 4: with everything I do, but it's still important that you know, man,

1069
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: D got a good heart. So I ain't gonna just

1070
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 4: denounce everything D stand for, cancel D because I disagree

1071
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 4: with one thing he done did with Fredile, I see

1072
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 4: that this man trust me, This man, you know, is

1073
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: willing to be open with me and vulnerable. The worst

1074
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 4: thing I could ever do is to be like just

1075
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 4: so I could go viral right right quick, is to

1076
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 4: try to talk down on somebody like that.

1077
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: You know.

1078
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: So when I saw Joe Budden doing that with the

1079
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 4: NBA young boy and stuff, I ain't respect that at all.

1080
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 4: I ain't respect that at all.

1081
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you ever feel like doing Christian rap holds

1082
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: you back?

1083
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 4: You think I'm a Christian rapper?

1084
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: Are you a Christian rapper? You're a Christian? You rap?

1085
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 4: That makes me a Christian rapper?

1086
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a Christian and you rap, you're

1087
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 1: not a Christian rapper.

1088
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 4: I don't know. Man, if you're if you're a Muslim

1089
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: and you wrap.

1090
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Educate, educating.

1091
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 4: I'm a priority rapper. I rap about it.

1092
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: Putsairs on that one.

1093
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 4: I'm a priority rap. I rap about what my priorities

1094
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 4: on life. God is my top priority in life. God

1095
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 4: gave me life, God created me. What's not my priorities

1096
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 4: is my jewelry, my cause, and my clothes. Man, that

1097
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 4: ain't high priorities. So you ain't gonna hit me rapping

1098
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,479
Speaker 4: about that too much? Well, I mentioned it, sure because

1099
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 4: I got all all of the above, but God is

1100
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: my top priority. Love relationships, you know what I mean.

1101
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 4: Understanding women, Understanding how to make an impact on the youth,

1102
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 4: understanding that prioritizing black love the black community. That's my priorities.

1103
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 4: I'm a priority rapper, bro. You feel me, but.

1104
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: I love it. But I love it.

1105
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 4: I never tell somebody don't call me whatever they view

1106
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 4: my art to be, you know, based on listening to it.

1107
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 4: I say, I said, what's the point of writing all

1108
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 4: of these lyrics if I'm rapping to an audience that

1109
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 4: ain't trying to hear it. They rather me blow a

1110
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 4: bag than rap about building wealth. They rather me get

1111
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 4: some brain than rap about mental health. Don't censor me, eventually,

1112
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 4: try to make sense of me. I don't need your dollars.

1113
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 4: I need you to think sensibly you feel good now

1114
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 4: that you're vegan, or that's funny if you're still supporting garbage,

1115
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 4: you just a healthy dummy. My city don't even love me.

1116
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 4: I'm calling it how it is. I'm a threat to

1117
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 4: the power structure that's brainwashing our kids. I'm fracturing all

1118
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: the egos of illegitimate heroes. I only look up to

1119
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 4: one man because he died, then he rolls. I keep

1120
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: it too real because life don't last too long. If

1121
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 4: everybody likes me, I'm doing something too wrong. Maybe in

1122
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 4: time they'll appreciate my words like nipsy till then I'm

1123
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 4: gonna see how far keeping it real gives me. That's

1124
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 4: my mindset, Oh man, that's how That's how I approach you.

1125
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 4: So if people hear all that and they see the

1126
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 4: moves I'm making, and they see me he at Harvard

1127
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 4: and he performing in colleges, clubs and churches and all that.

1128
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 4: And but because he reped God, he a Christian rapper,

1129
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 4: I am what you perceive me to be.

1130
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: Your independent grind is unmatched. I was looking at some

1131
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: of the things that you was doing, and you know, uh,

1132
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: some of the people that you've worked with, like you

1133
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: work with like so many damn artists, Like I mean,

1134
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: you work with Drake and you tour it, you toured

1135
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: with who was that? I saw it. I saw you

1136
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: did a song with Juvenile YEA. I saw this stuff

1137
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: with Manny Fresh.

1138
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1139
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: You've worked with Acon.

1140
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Loop and Fia School, you create.

1141
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: And you yeah, Bigret. In fact, Joe, you and you

1142
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: and you and uh loope, y'all really cool.

1143
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 4: Huh real cool. Yeah, that's my briter right there. Yeah,

1144
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 4: that's my britter right there.

1145
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: So I can see that, y'all be imagining with you know.

1146
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, I'm at Harvard right now. He's

1147
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 4: at mi T that's ten minutes away from Harvard University.

1148
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 4: So we both up there in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and he

1149
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 4: teaching that MI I T. And I'm doing my program

1150
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 4: and teaching at Harvard.

1151
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: Bro. Too cool, crazy.

1152
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 4: Crazy bro. And we don't toured the country together. We

1153
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 4: went on tour together. We got music together. So now

1154
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 4: for us to be up there, it's powerful and it

1155
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 4: shows the possibilities of rap in academia. You know, rap

1156
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 4: turned how old ffty this year, right, hip hop turned

1157
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 4: fifty years old this year. We just getting started, baby,

1158
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 4: were just getting started. We're in Ivy League schools right now. Man,

1159
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 4: I just was teaching last week on how hip hop

1160
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 4: took over the world and what lessons it has taught

1161
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 4: the black community on Harvard University's campus. Man, when the

1162
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 4: people seeing and when I go to Harvard, I'm the

1163
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 4: same dude you're seeing right now. Well, I'm not going

1164
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 4: there like, Hi, guys, my names are d David Augustine

1165
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 4: and I'd like to but I'm me. I get to

1166
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: be authentically myself.

1167
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: Bro.

1168
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 4: That is powerful, and we don't celebrate that in hip

1169
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 4: hop thor if I say, like, man, I'm a top

1170
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 4: tier rapper and I'm also at Harvard University right now.

1171
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 4: Not there's no student, no disrespect to the students. That's amazing,

1172
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 4: but I'm up there doing a fellowship. I'm up there

1173
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 4: teaching and doing research on hip hop. In hip hop,

1174
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 4: we don't look at that like that's a flex, like

1175
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 4: oh oh, you're doing that. But if it's like, man,

1176
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 4: that boy D one was in what's one of your

1177
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 4: strip clubs? Y'all got out here? What's the name? I know,

1178
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 4: you know what's one of the names. He gonna act

1179
00:58:59,600 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 4: like him.

1180
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: Don't go to him. I don't do strict, but I

1181
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: do know the names.

1182
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 4: All right. One was still the boy D one was

1183
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 4: in IX last night will Willie d them boys threw

1184
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 4: fifty rags of people with.

1185
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: Somebody else.

1186
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 4: Man was not with me.

1187
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: But see that if I did see you flexing, uh yo,

1188
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: bro hold on, man, hold on, because you're o g

1189
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 1: like saying man, you know we can do with that money, man.

1190
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 4: Because you're o g It takes courage, It takes really

1191
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 4: I don't want to call his name, bro, but a dude.

1192
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 4: I grew up listening to looked up to him.

1193
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: Man.

1194
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 4: I'll never forget being in the studio with him and

1195
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 4: we have an intelligent conversation just like this. He's older

1196
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 4: than me, he around your age and definitely where I'm from.

1197
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, he's a legend and I don't

1198
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 4: even I think we need to use a different word

1199
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 4: other than legend nowadays too, because everybody we call a

1200
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 4: legend ain't a legend. But we're in the studio having

1201
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 4: a talk like this, and his engineer was like, I

1202
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 4: have such a such a I got to be pulled up,

1203
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 4: you know, going there, you can spit your verse. We

1204
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 4: go from having this type of talk about fatherhood and

1205
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 4: black love and the community and financial literacy. As soon

1206
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 4: as he go get in that boot, man, he won't

1207
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: spit the most ignorant I'm gonna kill you and y'all y'all,

1208
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 4: and all your home is and da da da, and

1209
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: I got kilos of cocaine and da da da da da,

1210
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: And I'm a big like just that quick, bro, Bro,

1211
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 4: I witnessed this stuff. I can't make these stories up.

1212
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 4: So when I witness this type of stuff, I'm just

1213
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 4: I'm not numb to it. I'm like, oh something man,

1214
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 4: right about this? Bro? Like, people are getting in character

1215
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 4: when they are rappers. Meanwhile, as a real man, you

1216
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 4: totally different And that's not cool, Bro, I just want

1217
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 4: to be the same dude on and off the mic.

1218
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's a lot of dudes that are like that.

1219
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:54,479
Speaker 4: Man.

1220
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: You know some of the biggest artists out there who

1221
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: these people respect, they have no eyes idea that you know,

1222
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: dude ain't who they think he is, you know what

1223
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Like so, but the thing is, because

1224
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: here is the deal, bro, Like, if if you really

1225
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: that you all of that, and a street cat with

1226
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: credentials want to check, what's the first thing you're gonna do.

1227
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: He gonna call your hometown and he's gonna ask somebody

1228
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: on the ground about you. And that person on the

1229
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: ground that he asked gonna give him the real So

1230
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: everybody else, you know, they get the uh, they get

1231
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: the you know what they call it, the reperence, the reference,

1232
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: the representative representative. Yeah, you know. But the people that know, yeah,

1233
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: they get the real They really know, Bro, they really know.

1234
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: And the people that know the one really know the

1235
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: real people know you know, David Augustine, you know what

1236
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. We know you real, but we know

1237
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: you solid and we really do appreciate what you bring

1238
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: to the table. And you know absolutely you know, no

1239
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: disrespect whatsoever when it comes to uh, you know, your

1240
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: contributions to this game. You know what I'm saying. You're

1241
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: one of those guys that when the people your I

1242
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: always say, like, when your peers respect you, you're doing

1243
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: something wrong. Your peers respect you. Thank you, man, Thank you,

1244
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: thank you. It's been an honor man to sit down

1245
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: and have a conversation with you.

1246
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 4: I waited a year for this, bro. I know you

1247
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 4: know I appreciate that.

1248
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: And what's up with that gear? Man? Like you cold

1249
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: blooded with the gear on the gear game? What's up

1250
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: with that?

1251
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 4: Because you make way more money on merch than you

1252
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 4: do on streams. It's like if you're independent. But it's

1253
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 4: like me, you gotta know, man, like it's a lifestyle

1254
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 4: that you gotta be pushing the people. The music is

1255
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 4: the soundtrack, but you got to head a gift for people.

1256
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 4: So Mission Visionlifestyle dot Com is my website. I got

1257
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 4: a whole store there, man, And you see me rocking

1258
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 4: Mission Vision right here. That's my movement. That's also my ratulation,

1259
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 4: Mission Vision Music, Mission Vision Music. That's the label baby.

1260
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 4: So yeah. So if people want socks, they want sweatpants,

1261
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 4: they want hoodies, they want T shirts, tank tops, we

1262
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 4: got all that, and we actually got much more on

1263
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 4: the weast. So thank you for allowing me to give

1264
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 4: that plug Mission Visionlifestyle dot Com. Willie d actually be

1265
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 4: wearing my merch. I got pictures of him, y'all, and

1266
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna post them. Just if y'all think I'm lying.

1267
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: Post the man post it. Put it in their face.

1268
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 4: That's it, brother, Thank you man.

1269
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: No more talk.

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01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 4: This episode was produced by A King and brought to

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01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 4: you by

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