1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to answer some questions here on the show. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: I got the an man with me. We have collected 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: these emails from podcast at grangersmith dot com. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: If you answr me question. 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: We're going to start doing this on Fridays, the Friday 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Q and A. We don't have a name for it yet. 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: I like that though, Friday the Friday Q and A. 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: Here on the podcast an once again, we have emails 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: collected from you guys, email me podcast at grangersmith dot com, 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: and we're going to dive into him right now. 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: What you got first? 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 3: One says Hey Granger, I'm a campus minister who works 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 3: for a church that makes disciples on the college campus 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 3: and our surrounding community. I'd love to stay anonymous for 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: this message as it involves my church. The lead pastor 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: of our church and his wife have more liberal leaning ideologies, 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 3: and the wife openly talks. 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: About Taylor Swift I guess affectionately. 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: We have had conflict as they have this cultural paradigm 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: of oppressed versus oppress or. 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: This goes back to a podcast, so we talked about yeah. 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,279 Speaker 3: As one of the lenses that they view the world. 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: We had conflict over Charlie Kirk and their approach to 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: preach more leaning towards the oppressed and against what Charlie 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: stood for, which through your podcast, I'm learning that this 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 3: is only because the paradigm that they view the world, 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 3: which really made sense. My question is, how do you 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: recommend that I address this issue as the lead pastor 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 3: and his wife actively lean openly, lean left openly, and 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: celebrate Taylor Swift even as she has grown in secularism. 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: I long to work with people who are convicted in 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 3: the Gospel, but more often than not, it feels like 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 3: they are convicted in grace and grace rather than grace 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: and truth together. I hope this makes sense, Anonymous, you 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: don't hit that grace and grace and grace in truth 36 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: part first? 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: What is do you know what that what that part means? 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm guess that means that that's like love is love 39 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: okay type idea that like Bonhoffer calls it cheap grace okay, 40 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: or it's like costs nothing, Yeah, you know, it's it's 41 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: flippant grace. I think that's what he's talking about, instead 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: of like grace that's grounded in truth or has the 43 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: foundation of truth, which is God's grace. God's grace is 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: always going to be faithful, in foundational, in truth because 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: he is truth. Of course that makes sense. Is there 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: going to be flippant? I think that's what he's talking 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 1: about the the It's interesting that Taylor Swift keeps coming 48 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: up and catching me off guard, like. 49 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: It seems like the a couple of things, I mean, 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 3: around the same time, you have what happened with Charlie 51 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: Kirk and Taylor Swift releases a new album within a 52 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: few weeks of each other. I would imagine those have 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: just been two big things that have happened that he 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: uh seems to be a topic in the in the 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: church church? 56 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: Can you his his last line. I long to work 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: with people who are convicted in the Gospel, but more 58 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: often than not, it feels like they are convicted in 59 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: grace and grace rather than grace and truth together. I 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: hope this makes sense kind of And I'm wondering as 61 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: I hear this, why what's the big deal to change churches? 62 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, That's the first thing that 63 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: comes to my mind is why are we still why? 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: You know it'd be different. 65 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: It was like, this is my. 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: Brother in law, Yeah, or we live in on the 67 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: church property. My wife and I live in the apartment 68 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: complex on the church property. Like it seems like there 69 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: would be another because this is enough to just say, Brother, 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't think we're I don't think we see eye 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: to eye. I think you love the Lord. Yep, that's 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: not my question. But I think there's there's enough differences 73 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: between us in our ministry that could start to cause 74 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 1: some ambiguity between the way we're discipling and the way 75 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: we're ministring and the way we're preaching. And I think 76 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: in order to avoid disunity and what that could cause 77 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: in our church, I think I think my wife and 78 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: I are going to go elsewhere. But you know, I 79 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: hope the best for you guys. Yeah, it seems like 80 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: it to me. 81 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of does. 82 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: You're not going to change the guy's mind. You're not 83 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: going to change his philosophy of ministry. It's okay, it's 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: okay to approach him, and and if you want to 85 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: be encouraging to the brother and then be honest with 86 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: tell him those kind of details so that he at 87 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: least knows from you why you left. I left because 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: of these reasons, and I would go, I would arm 89 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: yourself with some Bible verses to back up the the 90 00:04:54,520 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: places that you disagree, and wish the brother well and 91 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: shake his hand and. 92 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: Pray for them. 93 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: Pray for them. Yeah, even right there in the room. Yeah, 94 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: in a non i'm looking down on you type way, 95 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: but you know, pray for both ministries as they that 96 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: they might be fruitful and faithful and leave. 97 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: It's time to leave. There you go. Yeah, that's it. 98 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: Got another one here from a guy named Jason. Hey Granger, 99 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: big fan of the podcast. I've heard you speak several 100 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 3: times on the importance of a church doing expository preaching 101 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: rather than something topic based. 102 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: However, with all the growing concern. 103 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: And divide in our world today, do you think that 104 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: there's ever a time a church should preach on topics 105 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: and back it up with scripture. When it comes to 106 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: politics and right versus left, it sometimes feels like the 107 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 3: church is burying its head in the sand to what's 108 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: happening around them. Maybe it's just me that wanted to 109 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: get your thoughts. Thanks Jason, Yeah. 110 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: Of course, I think, Jason, what we want is the 111 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: main intake of preaching to be expository, but that's not 112 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: to say that you can't break out into different times 113 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: as long as the topics are scriptural. 114 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: I don't. 115 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: I don't even like to say backed up with scripture. 116 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't even like to say that I could. I 117 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: could back up almost anything with scripture if I want 118 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: to use it the way I want to use it. 119 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: But instead I would say, I would say, if you're 120 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: thinking through a specific issue that you want to teach 121 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 1: your church, say, say, for instance, you want to teach 122 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: your church about marriage. I'm just completely throwing that out there. 123 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: You want to teach your church about marriage, maybe that's 124 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: not even we can go down that rabbit hole. But 125 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: let's change it. You want to teach your church about leadership, 126 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 127 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: Well, I was going to say we actually I just 128 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: had a our pastor just said something about this this 129 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: weekend is that, And the guy doesn't go to the church, 130 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: and he was only only have been going like three 131 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: or four weeks when. 132 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: This incident happened. 133 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: He walked in to the pastor's office, no appointment, walked 134 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: in and said pastor and lays down like two or 135 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: three pieces of paper that just had topics on it. 136 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: So this right here is a list of things you 137 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: need to be preaching on and I'm not hearing enough. 138 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: And it was homosexuality, transgenderism, sex before marriage. It would 139 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 3: just a whole list of things like I'm not hearing 140 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: you preach about this stuff, and I need you to 141 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: preach it. 142 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 143 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Here, Well the answer would be he would preach about 144 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: those things when it comes up in the scripture that 145 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: he's preaching on, right, But. 146 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: I mean that I think that that's what he's you know, 147 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: same idea. 148 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the same. And I said to Jason, 149 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: say you want to teach your church about marriage. Then 150 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: you'd say, Okay, Then what we're going to do is 151 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: we're going to do a series and this is going 152 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: to be on Ephesians five twenty two. And so you're 153 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: you're not you're not coming up with the way you 154 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: want to teach it. You're gonna say, we're gonna use 155 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: Paul's exposition of marriage because because our topic is marriage, 156 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: and so you're gonna say, wives submit to your own 157 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is that 158 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: is the head of the wife. Even as Christ is 159 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: the head of the church, his body and in him 160 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: and is himself, it's savior. Now as the church submits 161 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: to Christ to watch this submits to everything, and their 162 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: husband's husbands love your wives as Christ. You know you're 163 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: going to go through this whole thing, right, and then 164 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna teach from that. So not you're not gonna 165 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: use the scripture to back it up, but you're gonna 166 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: use the scripture and you're gonna preach out of it. 167 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: Your topic, your topic comes out of the scripture. So 168 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: you want to teach about slipping through here, So you 169 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: want to teach about leadership, right, so you're gonna go, well, 170 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: we're going to teach about church leadership. And so we're 171 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: going to go to one Timothy and at first Timothy three. 172 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: It literally the subtitle is Qualifications for Overseers, First Timothy 173 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: one through seven, and then the next one is Qualifications 174 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: for Deacons, First Timothy eight through thirteen. So we're gonna 175 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: we're going to teach through First Timothy three one through thirteen, 176 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: and the topic is church leadership. There you go, but 177 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: you see how he's doing it that, So yes, that 178 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: would be the caveat Jason that absolutely topics are fine, 179 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: but not to not backed up by scripture, but the 180 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: topic comes from scripture. 181 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: Important distinction there. That's good. Yeah. 182 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: And and once again, you don't want this to meet 183 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: to be your main diet of preaching. You want your 184 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: main diet of preaching to be expository. That way you're 185 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: you're protecting your church with the word of God and 186 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: not with the way the winds blowing outside. You're gonna 187 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: you think it's time to you know, talk about something, 188 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: you know whatever topic. 189 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's important. Yeah. 190 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: And if you're if you're in a series, no, no, 191 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that. I was about to call 192 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: out some churches. But okay, what don't you got. 193 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 2: That's it. 194 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: That's our Q and A Friday to two questions to day. 195 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: But you should you should email us. 196 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, email us podcast at grangersmith dot com. These are 197 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: two great questions. Appreciate you