1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: This is the Action Network podcast, but this one is good. 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: All right. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 3: Here we go from the growing in so speak, we're sitting. 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 4: It's a catch toto. 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: We see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 3: go to winning. God, that's incredible. 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 4: Big bank, small bank. I like to make money. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: All right, this is the ultimate kaban you want to pull. 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 4: And we are underway. 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to another episode of strong Side Fridays 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 3: here on the Action Network podcast. I'm your host, Brandon 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: Anderson here with Rahem Palmer, and we are getting you 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: ready for Championship Sunday. And boy, if this lives up 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: to even half of what we got on last weekend, 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: that was like championship weekend and then some Rahiem, do 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: you think that we have even a shot at getting 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: anything close to that? This weekend? 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: You got to Cincinnati Bengals playing the Kansas City Chiefs. 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Those two teams have already played an exciting football game 20 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: this year. The Rams and the forty nine Ers are 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: division rivalries, third time playing this year. So I think 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna get We're in for a weekend of exciting 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: football and I can't wait to see it. 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to watch Championship Sunday is always a 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: good one. I think we'll get at least one good game. 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: I have a feeling we're gonna get one blow out. 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: I don't know which one, but you know, it's hard 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: to get that plastic of a Sunday two weekends in 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: a row. But we'll see, we'll see. It's been a 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: very parody driven year, so that leads to some fun 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: games and close finishes, and we fell a lot of 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: those from these teams. So we're gonna do both games. 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: That's basically it today. We're just hitting the games. We're 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: gonna talk a little bit at the end. You know, 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: Verhem and I both have been on forty nine ers 36 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: futures and we are right on the precipice now getting 37 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: a lot of questions from you all about what do 38 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: we do with our futures? Do we have do we 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: ride them out? We're gonna talk about that a little 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: bit as we wrap up as well. Of course, as always, 41 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: odds today are from MGM, the official odds provider of 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: the Action Network podcast. And that's about it. Let's get 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: down to business and pick our first game. 44 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 4: Let's get down. 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: Let's get down to business. 46 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 4: So let's get down. Let's get down to business. 47 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: Let's get down. We start out in Kansas City in Arrowhead. 48 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Bengals head to Kansas City. That matchup you 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: talked about last week was the match we talked about earlier, 50 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: was in Cincinnati in week seventeen. This one's in Kansas City. 51 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: The Chiefs are seven and a half point favorites right now, 52 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: seven at mini books, so we'll see where this one 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: ends up. The total is at fifty four and a half. 54 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 3: So I know we're gonna talk about the total a 55 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: little bit, but I'm gonna start with that week seventeen game. 56 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: So the Bengals won thirty four to thirty one. Very 57 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 3: much a tale of two halves sort of game. Chiefs 58 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: came out early, had the comfortable lead, they led by 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: fourteen three times in the first half. Bengals come all 60 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 3: the way back steal the win. That game was earlier 61 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: this month. We don't normally get these rematches so close 62 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: to one another. What's your takeaway from that game and 63 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: how much should what happened that game impact what we 64 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: think here? 65 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: The Chiefs defense really hasn't improved. We came into that 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: game thinking that the Chiefs defense was it was absolutely 67 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: dominant and one of the best defenses in the league 68 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: over the last nine weeks of the season. But when 69 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: you look at the Chiefs, who have they played. They 70 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: played the Giants, they played the Steelers, they played the 71 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: Packers without Aaron Rodgers. They had played the Raiders twice, 72 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: the Broncos twice, they played the Cowboys, and we all 73 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: know that since Dak Prescott's injury, they were never the same. 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: So they came into that game coming off beating the 75 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: Steelers thirty six to ten, and they came back against 76 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: the Chargers, but the Chargers were the best offense they 77 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: had faced on that stretch. So when the Bengals went 78 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: out there and just kind of carved this team up 79 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: offensively with Joe broken for four and forty six yards 80 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: four touchdowns and Jamar Chase going for eleven receptions in 81 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty six yards for three touchdowns, we 82 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: kind of saw. 83 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 4: The Chiefs get exposed defensively. 84 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: We did, and it definitely was not what I expected 85 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: that game. What I expected was the first half. I 86 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: thought that the Bengals, I didn't even know that they 87 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: were a playoff team. I was betting on teams like 88 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: the Steelers to win the division and get that last 89 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 3: playoff spot in place of the Bengals, because I thought 90 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 3: they would lose that game. Early on, it looked like 91 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: they were the Chiefs were in control, the Bengals defense 92 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: was not getting the job done, and then things really flipped. 93 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: But as I went back and kind of studied that 94 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 3: game this week, I initially kind of felt like you 95 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: did take away from that game that I don't know 96 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: if I would say exposed. That seems like a little 97 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: bit a little too much for me. The Chiefs defense 98 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 3: has been good, but looking back, I feel like this 99 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: game went, you know, top two or three percentile outcome 100 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: of what it have for Cincinnati and that they had 101 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: so many things go right their way just to barely 102 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: eke out this not miraculous victory. We're not talking Chiefs 103 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: bills here, but it really really shouldn't have won the game. 104 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: So you mentioned the lines for Burrow and Chase monster 105 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: monster games and yardage. Two of those touchdowns for Jamar 106 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: Chase came on just one a huge bomb over the top. 107 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: You know I was gonna get that one, And then 108 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: another one where it was really just an underpass that 109 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: Chase just broke through the entire defense. And Jamar Chase 110 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: is great, but he's not Tyreek Khill. He's not gonna 111 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: break that one too often. So last game when they played, 112 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow had two hundred and sixty four yards after 113 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: the catch on his passes. That's almost so many yards 114 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: as Mahomes had the entire game. Kelsey and Tyreek Hill 115 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: had only sixty five yards and seventeen targets, so they 116 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: basically got completely shut down. Chase and Higgins were winning 117 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 3: all game on man. The three of those two picked 118 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: up three pass interfearing penalties and another penalty. We talked 119 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 3: after the game too, the Chiefs were just crushed by 120 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: penalties in that game. You and I were texting earlier. 121 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: Right before halftime, there was a kickoff return. The Bengals 122 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: got a field goal, kicked it back off under a 123 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: minute left, and the Chiefs returned it back for a 124 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: touchdown that would have blown it right back open again, 125 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: and he got called back on a holding penalty. The 126 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: Chiefs special teams has been really good. They did another 127 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: big kick return called back by a penalty, then another 128 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 3: twenty nine yard point return that stood in that game, 129 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow had zero point sixty one epa per play. 130 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 3: That is an outlandishly good number for comparison. Remember last week, 131 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: Mahomes and Josh Allen zero point five to one epa 132 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: per play. So for the Bengals to win, they had 133 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: to have Joe Burrow play better than the two guys 134 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: we just saw last weekend. Jamar Chase have like the 135 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: receiving game of the year, all sorts of penalty locked, 136 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 3: that wild ending and all of that just for the 137 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: Bengals barely to get bigh As I studied that this week, 138 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 3: that made me really feel like the Chiefs were in 139 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: control here. 140 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: No I thought that initially, but you do have to 141 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: look at the fact that Mahomes had a couple of 142 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: interceptible passes that the Bengals. 143 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: Drop at the end of the day. 144 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: It's like, when you have that many penalties in terms 145 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: of pass interference penalties as the Chiefs had, it says 146 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: something about your inability to cover the opposing teams wide receivers. 147 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just Jamar Chase, it was boy this game. 148 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: It closed it. Bengals plus three and a half, we're 149 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: sitting at seven and a half now seven consensus. To me, 150 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: that feels like an overad adjustment based on what we 151 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: saw the first game, and we know that the Bengals 152 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: actually came out slow, so imagine if they don't come 153 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: out slow. I just think these teams are a lot 154 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: closer than what I thought they were back in week 155 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: seventeen when I hated cap this matchup. 156 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the scary thing. I mean, that's always the 157 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: scary thing with taking a touchdown or more favorite, is 158 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: you just football is hard. It's hard to win by 159 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: a lot, and it's one thing to be the better 160 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: team and to need to win by touchdown or more. 161 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: But we've seen it with the Chiefs. How many playoff 162 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: games we've seen in Kansas City come out a little flat, 163 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: immediately get behind. And now if you give up an 164 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: opening touchdown to the Bengals, you don't just have to 165 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: have the Chiefs win by seven. You've got a fourteen 166 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: point script that you've got to flip and that's just 167 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: to possibly push. If you're on a minus seven, you 168 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: might need three scores to take the lead. So that's 169 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: the scary part, just because when you're betting on the 170 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: big favorite, if you do start a little slow. If 171 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 3: the Bengals look good early, or get that one Fluke touchdown, 172 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: the one Jamar Chase broken play, whatever it is, it's 173 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: a lot of ground to make up. Counterpoint, it's Patrick Mahomes. 174 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: He can do that in like three minutes. He's done 175 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: that in most of the playoff games. Even in these 176 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: games where they've fallen behind, they're coming back and winning 177 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: covering in most cases anyway. So I got like the 178 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: devil and angel on my shoulder going back and forth 179 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: on those things. So looking at the matchup of these 180 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 3: two teams, I don't necessarily agree with you that these 181 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: teams are as close as you're saying they are. So 182 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: what do you think the Bengals are better at than 183 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: the Chiefs right now? 184 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: I think they're a better defense. I mean, like this 185 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs defense at the started a year, we were calling 186 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: them one of the worst in the league, and then 187 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: they play a bunch of quarterbacks who aren't even in 188 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: the top ten at EPA for play, and all of 189 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: a sudden we're looking at them like a resurgent defense. 190 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 4: So to me, I just don't think that they're great 191 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 4: defensively at all. 192 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: Like Buffalo carved them up like, and I know it's Buffalo, 193 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: but like they had no prayers of stopping Josh Allen, 194 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: and I don't think they're going to have a chance 195 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: to stop in the Bengals next week. 196 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: I don't so. Look, all I'm saying is seven is 197 00:09:59,280 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: too much. 198 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: If the line closed at three and a half in Cincinnati, 199 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: seven is too much because in today's NFL, we all 200 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: know home foot advantage doesn't mean that much. Home favorites 201 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: are twenty seven and twenty six against the spreads, its 202 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety. In the championship round, favorites of seven plus 203 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: are just twelve and fourteen against the spread and twenty 204 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: and six straight up. Yes, I think the Chiefs are 205 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: the better team, but I just don't think there're seven 206 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: points better at this point. 207 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough because that line hit the line being 208 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: at seven or seven and a half, just that little 209 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: half point is enough to make me hilt a little 210 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: bit to one side or a little bit to the 211 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: other side. You know, Initially my read on this game 212 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 3: was very much aligned with you. This is I think 213 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 3: maybe our first playoff game we're kind of battling. Had 214 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: to head a little bit here in my initial write 215 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: up early in the week, I picked the Bengals at 216 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 3: seven and a half. If it's still a seven and 217 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: a half, maybe it's still the Bengals to pick. I 218 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: think it might not, just being a stay away from me. 219 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: If you can get the seven, I don't think we're 220 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: gonna get under seven again. We got that right when 221 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: it opened. That's not coming back. But at the seven 222 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 3: is that little key number. And even the Patrick Mahomes trends, 223 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: they change from seven and below to seven and a 224 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 3: half above, and that little key number, that half a 225 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: point makes a big difference. I just I don't know 226 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: that the Bengals are really better at much of anything. 227 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: The offense clearly is not better. They can run the 228 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: ball a little better, but I think to a detriment, 229 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: we've talked a lot about how they've over committed to 230 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 3: the run game, and even looking back again, they did 231 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: that a lot against the Chiefs. I think there's a serious, 232 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: huge coaching mismatch here. Anyone would agree with that. Andy 233 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 3: Reid and Zach Taylor, and Zach Taylor has been playing 234 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: conservative ball that works against the Raiders and the Titans. 235 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 3: It's not going to cut the mustard against the Chiefs. 236 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: You can't keep running the ball on these early downs 237 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: and setting you up for late down in a hole. 238 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: The Chiefs defense by DVA twentieth on first down, twenty 239 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: seventh on second down, but tenth on late downs. They're 240 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: actually a decent defense on late downs and good this season. 241 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 3: They've been a top ten defense the last eight weeks 242 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: compared to thirty first before that. And we know the 243 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 3: Bengals all line can't protect. Chris Jones had a couple 244 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: of sacks last game against the Bengals. The Chiefs had 245 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: four sacks. I think one thing will see different. I 246 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: hope we'll see different as a possible Chiefs backer Des 247 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: Bagnolo was really aggressive last game, a lot of blitzing. 248 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: You can't blitz Joe Burrow. He is carving up the 249 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: blitz and you're leaving your corners on an island, and 250 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: Burrow and Chase were lighting that up. I think the 251 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: d line can get home without blitzing. And if the 252 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: Bengals get these negative scripts, and if the defense is 253 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: even just as good as the Chiefs but not significantly better, 254 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: we know the special teams for the Chiefs are great. 255 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: We know the Chiefs coaching is awesome. I just don't 256 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: know where the edge is. And I was ready to say, 257 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: well seven and a half, it's just too much. The 258 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: Bengals are going to score. The back door will be open. 259 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: We saw how much they score. But the Bengals just 260 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: have a lot of flaws. They're thirty first in defense 261 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: on first down to twenty ninth in offense DVLA in 262 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 3: the first quarter, twenty eighth and the second quarter defensively. 263 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: I just think the Chiefs are a much better team. 264 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: And if I can get the seven, I think I'm 265 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: going to lay the seven here. 266 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, the play that I think is 267 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: the one that I've really found it ages. I like 268 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: the over, like the over fifty three and a half 269 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: I played that. I think it's up to fifty four 270 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: and a half. I still would played up to fifty five. 271 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety Championship game, over start thirty seven to 272 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: twenty three and two. That's sixty one point seven eight 273 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: and two to over in the last five years. But 274 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: look looking at these two teams, they put up nearly 275 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: nine hundred yards of offense in the last time that 276 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: they played, and both teams were over seven yards per past. 277 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: I just don't see any prayer of these teams stopping 278 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: each other. And when you look at the Chiefs, they 279 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: put up over thirty points at pretty much every single 280 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: home playoff game that they've ever played. And we all 281 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: know when it comes to the Bengals, they played just 282 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: the fourteen Franks schedule of opposing offenses. And this is 283 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: a team that's given up thirty four points to the Jets, 284 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: forty one points to Baker Mayfield and the Browns. Last 285 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: week against the Titans, they gave up almost eight point 286 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: five yards pass and they almost gave up seven yards 287 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: per play, but Ryan Tannehill turned the ball over at will. 288 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: When you look at the game against the Raiders, the 289 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: Bengals went out there and pretty much let the They 290 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: let the Raiders into the red zone five to six times. 291 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 4: They just couldn't score touchdowns. 292 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: We know the Chiefs are going to score touchdowns in 293 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: this one, and I just don't I don't have a 294 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: ton of. 295 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: Respect for this Chiefs defense. 296 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have issues with the Bengals offense 297 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: as well. And look, when you look at Pro Football Focus, 298 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is dominant under pressure. He actually has a 299 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: higher passer rating under pressure than Patrick Mahomes. He is 300 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: ninety one point one passer rating under pressure. Patrick Mahomes 301 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: has just a seventy five point two passer rating under 302 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: pressure when his pocket is clean. Joe Burrow has one 303 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen passer rate. So Joe Burrow has just 304 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: been dominant. So I think you have these two quarterbacks 305 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: in this game, in this spot, this is gonna be 306 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: a high scoring game. 307 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: I'm going over the overcase makes a lot of sense. 308 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: I'm probably not gonna play the full game over, but 309 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: I'm going to zoom in. I'm taking the second quarter 310 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: over over sixteen and a half in the second quarter. 311 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: Basically everything you just said, I agree with all of it. 312 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: I don't trust the defenses here, I trust the points. 313 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: I think that we could get some emotional letdown for 314 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: both these teams after tough wins last week, to get 315 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: a slow start, but second quarter defense. If you look 316 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: at Dvoa, Bengals are twenty eighth and second quarter defense 317 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: and the Chiefs are thirty four, So that's two of 318 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: the bottom five second quarter defenses in the league. I 319 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: think that maybe we get a slow start, but then 320 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: the points start to really flow in. Bengals offense has 321 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: really good second quarter numbers too, and we know the 322 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: Chiefs will kind of get some hurry up and get going. 323 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: I'm with you on the over. I'm just zooming in 324 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: on the second quarter over. 325 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: If you want to zoom in one more time. 326 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: Another way to play the Chiefs in this matchup is 327 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: to play the Chiefs team total over thirty one. Like 328 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: I said before, they score over thirty one in every 329 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: single home playoff game. So to me, if they're going 330 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: to cover it at seven, they're probably going to put 331 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: up over thirty one points. 332 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: So that's another angle I'm looking at. 333 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: I like that. That makes a lot of sense to me. 334 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: A couple other trends to note here. In the conference 335 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: championships since two thousand and four, favorites of more than 336 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: a field goal are fifteen to eight against the spread, 337 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: so that's the sixty five percent cover rate. Those teams 338 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: are nineteen and four straight up, including teams that played 339 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: in the season and lost that matchup are six and 340 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: two against the spread as favorites in the rematch in 341 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: the playoffs. So I just the numbers say that at 342 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: this point of the season, when we get to this stage. 343 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: If if we know a team is a lot better, 344 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: that team usually proves itself to be a lot better. 345 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes lifetime in the playoffs seven and three against 346 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: the spread. We know the three he lost the Super Bowl, 347 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 3: he lost the overtime game to the Patriots and the 348 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: conference championship, and then then then they didn't cover in 349 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: that Browns game where he got hurt. So basically, to 350 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 3: beat Patrick Mahomes and cover in the playoffs at this point, 351 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 3: you either need to have no offensive line in the 352 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 3: super Bowl with the crazy talent Tampa had, or you 353 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: need that that Patriots overtime, or you need to get hurt. 354 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: You Tom Brady pretty much, I mean and his Brazilian 355 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: wife's juju. 356 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 3: Which exactly so. So for me, that's why I'm switching. 357 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 3: If I get the seven, I'm gonna I'm gonna tentatively 358 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 3: take the Chiefs minus seven. I think it's a great 359 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: spot for teaser. You mentioned that. I just think the 360 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: Chiefs get this win. So if for that is seven, 361 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: you get this down to one, I think it's a 362 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: good spot there. We like the over second quarter. Over 363 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: wrapping this one up, Let's say that as we record 364 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: this Sunday night, the Bengals have won the game. Give me, 365 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: give me the twenty second. What's the reaction. Why did 366 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: the Bengals win this game? What happened? 367 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes threw two interceptions and no, basically, Patrick Mahomes 368 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: threw one interception. And we have a game similar to 369 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: last week where pretty much the last team with the 370 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: ball wins. 371 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 3: And that's the script. 372 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think like last week, we pretty much knew 373 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: that if if the Bills have the ball last, they're 374 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: going to win. If the Chiefs have the ball last, 375 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: they're going to win. And Patrick Mahomes has had some 376 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: rough turnovers this year, and he could ease turn the 377 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: ball over and get the Bengals an exit possession and 378 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: that'll be enough to do it. 379 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the script. I just can't quite 380 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: get there putting the Bengals in the same group as 381 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: the Bills. I know what the Bills just did. I 382 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: know they did to this defense. I can't quite put 383 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow in with what Josh Allen 384 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: just said, but maybe they will. I'm excited to watch 385 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 3: this one. I think we're gonna have fireworks. 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Let's get back 418 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: to the show. 419 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: All right. That NFC second game, San Francisco forty nine ers, 420 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: our San Francisco forty nine ers. They're making us a 421 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: lot of money these days. They had to Los Angeles 422 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: to take on the Rams. The Rams are at three 423 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: and a half point favorites. They've basically been there the 424 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: entire week. We're at forty five and a half on 425 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: the total Rahim, we've been smashing the Niners for weeks now, 426 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 3: we talked them up earlier this week. Has anything changed? 427 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 3: Are you still in on the forty nine ers? 428 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: Still land on the forty nine ers? 429 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: And first things first, before we get into this game, 430 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna hear all week about how it's 431 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: very difficult for a team to win three times, and 432 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna dispel that myth right now. Since the NFL 433 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: merger in nineteen seventy, there have been twenty two instances 434 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: in which a team has swept its divisional fat in 435 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: the regular season only to me again in the postseason. 436 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: The team who swept the regular season matchup is fourteen 437 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: and eight in those games. That includes last year, and 438 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: of course Tom Brady was the one who broke the 439 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: trend for that was fourteen and seven. And if you 440 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: want to get more granular, and for those instances, the 441 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: role team is actually completed the sweet that's something that 442 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine. 443 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: Ers are looking to do here. 444 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: Look, fort Knins have dominated this matchup during the Shanahanmocvey era. 445 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: They're seven and three and they've won the last six matchup, 446 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: with four of those coming in a role underdog. We 447 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: all know Kyle Shanahan and the roll underdog twenty five 448 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: and seventeen and sixty percent. I like the forty nine 449 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: Ers in this matchup. I think a big part of 450 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: it is their ability to dominate on both sides of 451 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: the ball with the run game. Look, I know this 452 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: Ram pass rush is first and pass rush win we 453 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: and they have fifty sacks on a year that's third. 454 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: But they're able to really run the ball and neutralize 455 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: that pass rush. First two matchups they had one hundred 456 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: and fifty six yards one hundred and thirty five yards, 457 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: and that opens things up for Jimmy Garoppolo, who's really 458 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: played well against this team. We look at Jimmy Garoppolo 459 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: and two games because the Rams, He's thirty to fifty one, 460 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: four ninety eight yards, three touchdowns, and he even led 461 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: an eighty eight yard draft or touchdown to send a 462 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: game in overtime and then had the game winning drive 463 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: of Week eighteen to send the four nine. 464 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 4: Ers into the playoffs. 465 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: So a lot of people going to overreact to what 466 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: Jimmy g did last week, but I think he's gonna 467 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: have a big game. 468 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: What do you think yeah, I'm with you on everything. 469 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: Here we are. We are in on the forty nine ers, 470 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: and we ain't going anywhere on this. I agree. We 471 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 3: can't make too much of this Jimmy Garoppolo thing. We're 472 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 3: not betting on a player. This is not the NBA. 473 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 3: This is not one superstar takes over the game. That's 474 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: all on them. You're betting on Jimmy Garoppolo in the 475 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: forty nine ers system. You're betting on Jimmy Garoppolo with 476 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan's play calling, with George Hittle to throw to, 477 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: with Deebo Samuel out of the backfield, with Trent Williams 478 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: and those blockers, and in this matchup, all of those 479 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 3: those things are positives for him. And the numbers have 480 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: been good. The numbers don't mean Jimmy Garoppolo is an 481 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: awesome quarterback. They don't need to mean that. They need 482 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: to say, Jimmy Garoppolo's offense with the forty nine Ers 483 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: is very good. And that's what every number we have 484 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: says this year and really every year when Garoppolo is healthy, 485 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 3: when they play with all their guys out there, just 486 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: a very good offense and always has been. You mentioned 487 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: the Shanahan underdog numbers. Last nineteen times the Niners have 488 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 3: been underdogs, they have won twelve of those outright. That's 489 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: almost two out of three times that they win outright 490 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: as underdogs. They've dominated this matchup. Like you said, week eighteen, 491 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: they were missing Trent Williams, their best player. They were 492 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 3: down seventeen to nothing. Sean McVeigh is forty six and 493 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 3: one lifetime with a halftime lead. That's the one he 494 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 3: blew the lead. The Niners almost double them up in yardage. 495 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: It didn't. It wasn't as close as the final score. 496 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: Look the earlier match of this he's almost thirty one 497 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 3: to ten nine ers. They double time of possession. Matt 498 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: Stafford has struggled against this defense, and I think two, 499 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: we've got to give credit to this defense. They were awesome, 500 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: awesome against the Packers. Demiko o'ryans really schemed things up 501 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: well and I think confused Aaron Rodgers. He'll never admit 502 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: to it, but he was having a hard time getting 503 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 3: those reads. They're putting a lot of guys at the 504 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: line and then dropping coverage. And you mentioned the pass 505 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: rush win right as well. That's the scary thing because 506 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: what if Aaron Donald and Von Miller are in Groppolo's 507 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: face all game. We don't really trust Garoppolo. We don't 508 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 3: want him to have to go win the game. What 509 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 3: if he looks like Tom Brady last game those guys 510 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 3: are in his face. Well, this is not Tampa Bay's 511 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: offensive line. Donovan Smith was a turnstile last week. Kristin 512 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: Wurfs was out at right tackle. Both tackles were just 513 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: open passages. Guys just coming around the edge of the 514 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 3: entire game. Trent Williams is not going to be doing that. 515 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 3: I need to see Trent Williams playing. If he suddenly 516 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: would be a late, late Screa, that would be a huge, 517 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: huge loss in this game the way von Miller is looking. 518 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: But the Niners actually had more sacks this season against 519 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 3: the Rams than vice versa. Nick Bosa Derek Armstead have 520 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 3: also been awesome rushing the passer. And Andrew Whitworth the 521 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: Rams tackle is a question mark. He looks like he'll 522 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: play too. We think these guys are gonna play. It's 523 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 3: the big game. But there's just there's I don't have 524 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: a hard time finding what about the Rams matching up 525 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: here that I like I like so much about the 526 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: Niners here. 527 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: I do too, and I think one of the big 528 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: things the forty nine ers have that in their advantage 529 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: is that they can generate a pass rush without blitzing. 530 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: That's something that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers couldn't do last week, 531 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: and it ultimately burned them because they tried the top 532 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: bolls to side it the blitz at the end of 533 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: the game, and Matthew Stafford absolutely destroyed the blitz by 534 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: but you know, throwing all right, Katie just hit me 535 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: it three off, Okay, So Matthew Stafford absolutely destroyed the 536 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: blitz by you know, throwing the past. 537 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 4: The Cooper Cup, which pretty much ended the game. Well, 538 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 4: when you look at the forty. 539 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: Nine Ers what they did in that second matchup in 540 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: Week eighteen, they actually pressure Stafford fifteen times and sacked 541 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: them five times. 542 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 4: And they barely blitzed. 543 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: So I just think this is a really, really, really 544 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: good spot for the forty Niners defense. I think also 545 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: when you look at the offense, one of the things 546 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: that the forty nine Ers do well is they throw 547 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: the ball to the middle of the field yep so, 548 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: and that's an area where the Rams struggle to stop 549 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: because they don't have good linebackers. So if you're able 550 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: to throw the ball to the middle of the field 551 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: and you're able to run the ball, I just think 552 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, the forty nine ers have 553 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: a real edge. The only thing that's really keeping us, 554 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: the only thing that really scares us in this matchup 555 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: is the Jimmy g Very. We all know Matthew Staffords 556 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: the better quarterback. But when you look at the coaching advantage, 557 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: when you look at the edge on both sides of 558 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: the ball, I think the forty nine ers have it. 559 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: Now there's another thing. You know, people are mentioning the 560 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: forty nine ers are playing a fourth straight rule and 561 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: do you think it's possible they take a run a gas. 562 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 3: I think it's possible. But you know, this is not 563 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 3: a long road trip. The forty nine ers are going 564 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 3: to take a couple hours, you know, to get to LA. 565 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: It's not really a whole lot closer than the LA 566 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 3: guys are getting to their own stadium. And look, we 567 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: watched Week eighteen, that was a home game for the 568 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: forty nine ers. These Rams, they're scared. The Rams ticket 569 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 3: sellers are trying to blackout tickets from the outside of 570 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 3: the LA market. They know, they know what happened. That 571 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: was there was red in the stands and loud, loud 572 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 3: to cheering for the forty nine ers in Los Angeles. 573 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: Niners fans they're going to show up at this game. 574 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 3: So I actually think that I don't know that if 575 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 3: there's any real home field advantage at all for the 576 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: Rams here, this line I think is pricing in some 577 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: home field advantage. So I think that that actually is 578 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 3: just going to buy us a little more value on 579 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,959 Speaker 3: the line. I can't believe truly that this line has 580 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: never really dropped past the three and a half at 581 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 3: least to a three, at least off the hook. For me, 582 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: that's the one thing that scares me a little bit, 583 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: just because we've been smashing the Niners, and so many 584 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 3: people have, so many others at Action Network have, and 585 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 3: it just feels like this line is begging you to 586 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: take the Niners as well as they've played when you 587 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: get that extra half point. But I just have to 588 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: do it because everything looks so good. I think the 589 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: way they're playing right now, I actually believe that the 590 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: forty nine Ers have the better offense and defense right now. Defensively, 591 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: they're number four on DVA. The last eight weeks into 592 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: the season, they're number one on run defense. We said 593 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 3: all a year the Rams cannot run the ball. They 594 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: can't can makers is back but average two yards of 595 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: popway week, fumbled twice. Lost his confidence if you can't run. Now, 596 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: the whole thing is Matt Stafford trying to beat this 597 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 3: pass rush and trying to get the ball down the field. 598 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: And I agree we're nervous about Jimmy Garoppolo. You never 599 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: know when he might do the thing and throw it away. 600 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: Guess who else can do that at any given play. 601 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 3: Matt Stafford, Matthew Stafford as you would call him. You 602 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: gotta get the first name out for that man, because 603 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: he can do it too. And we don't need to 604 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 3: say the numbers at this point. You know, against teams 605 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: five hundred or better, the man does not get a 606 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: lot of wins, and he has the last couple of weeks. 607 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: But I don't want to make too much of beating 608 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: up on a Bucks team that was missing like half 609 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: of their starters and almost beat them anyway, and beating 610 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: a Cardinals team that sputtered down the stretch like they 611 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: always do, and that that one is the matchup that 612 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 3: favors the Rams' that's kind of the flip of this 613 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 3: one where the Rams usually get that matchup. So I 614 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 3: just think that this line, I don't know what it is. 615 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: Is it it's it's I have to tell you what 616 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: it is. Honestly, you have sharp guys on both sides 617 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: of this game. So you got to remember a lot 618 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: of the sharper guys came out at the start of 619 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: the season and took the Rams to go to the 620 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So you're seeing a Rams team at home. 621 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: And this is so funny because last week I think 622 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: you asked me we did we did this little exercise 623 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: and I know you guys, I don't know if you 624 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: guys remember we did an exercise on who had the 625 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: most future value. I don't know you remember, but you 626 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: took the forty nine ers and I took the Rams. 627 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why I took the Rams 628 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: despite liking the forty nine ers in this matchup is 629 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: because they have a home game but at the NFC 630 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: championship for the Super Bowl, and I mean, we both 631 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: ended up being right because the forty nine Ers and 632 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: the Rams are here in the NFC Championship game. But 633 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: you give a team a home game, an NFC Championship game, 634 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: and you have an opposing team which has played four 635 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: straight road games, and there's some questions around Deebo Samuels, 636 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: there's some questions about Trent Williams, and that's why you're 637 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: going to have sharper guys on both sides. So it's 638 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: interesting to see. But I mean, I personally like the 639 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Look, you mentioned it with Matthew Stafford. 640 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: He's throwing eight interceptions in the last four games in 641 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: the regular season, and then he beat up on a 642 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals team which was just never the same after the 643 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: first ten weeks in the NFL season, and then he 644 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: beat up on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers team which had 645 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: their entire secondary in the hospital. So, like, I don't 646 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: to me, the Rams have to prove it to me. 647 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,239 Speaker 1: And I still think they have some demons that they 648 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: have to overcome with this forty nine ers team. So 649 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: even if the Rams do win, I think at plus 650 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: three and a half, I think we have a positive 651 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 1: expective value wager. We both like the forty nine ers 652 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: money line, but we'll see what happens. 653 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: Now, I'm on the Niners to cover. I'm on the 654 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 3: Niners money line. I like Niners. You can play them 655 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: at most books to lead at halftime and then win 656 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: at the end of the game. Again, we know that 657 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 3: Sean McVay stat if the Rams are leading a halftimes 658 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: they almost always win. They only that one week eighteen game, 659 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: So I'm seeing plus two sixty five there. That's kind 660 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: of a sneaky way to add a little value to 661 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 3: your money line on the Niners if you do that. 662 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: A couple other trends to point out another Stafford trend 663 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: November or later, playing team's over five hundred one, he's 664 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: a favorite. Matthew Stafford is seven and eight straight up 665 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 3: as a favorite in those games. So he is just 666 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: he's losing more than he's winning in those games. And 667 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 3: that includes the last two weeks or the sorry not 668 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 3: last week he was a dog there, but that includes 669 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: the win over the Cardinals five nine and one against 670 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 3: the spread in those games, so only thirty six percent cover. 671 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 3: I want to add two my favorite prop in this game. 672 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 3: You kind of hit toward this earlier and I thought 673 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 3: you were gonna steal it from me, but I'm gonna 674 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 3: come back to it. The Rams can't cover the middle 675 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 3: of the field. Guess who plays pretty darn well in 676 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 3: the middle of the field. It's our guy, George Kittle. 677 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: So this year, Week eighteen, George Kittle had ten yards 678 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 3: on five catches, now what you want, But remember Trent 679 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 3: Williams was out. I think he did a lot of 680 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 3: extra blocking in that game to help protect. If you 681 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: look at the games before that, the last six times, 682 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: the last four seasons as Kittle played, even if you 683 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 3: include that game, here's some of the yardage totals. He's 684 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 3: had four catches for one hundred, five for ninety eight, 685 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: nine for one hundred and forty nine, eight for one 686 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: hundred and three, seven for one hundred and nine over 687 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 3: the last four seasons. Even including that Week eighteen game, 688 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 3: he's averaging six catches for ninety eight yards get a 689 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: touchdown in five of those eight games. So you can 690 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: get Kittle over fifty five and a half yards at 691 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 3: plus money right now. You can get him at seventy 692 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 3: five yards or more, which he's done in five of 693 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 3: those seven games, plus two sixty plus five eighty if 694 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: you want to go one hundred yards are higher, and 695 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 3: you also go over four and a half catches at 696 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: minus one thirty. That line is crazy to me. He's 697 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 3: gone over that the last seven games against the RAM, 698 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 3: so we know Hittle had a big game last week, 699 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 3: could have had an even bigger game, had a couple 700 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: drops that he wouldn't normally have. I think he has 701 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: a big line here, especially over the middle. That's their 702 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 3: bread and butter. So I like that one. I like 703 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: the Niners halftime full time Niners cover Niners money line. 704 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 3: Do you have any other Niners plays here? Anything on 705 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 3: the total? Before we wrap up? 706 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: Leading towards the over. I think this total is starting 707 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: to get a little bit too low. I've seen some 708 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: forty five and a halfs in the market, which is 709 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: I mean crazy. Between these two teams, you got two 710 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: offenses which you are in the top five, top ten 711 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: and EPA for play. The four nine ers went under 712 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: last week, and I think they went well under expectation. 713 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: You just gave out the over on a passing prop 714 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: and to me, I think you could see Deebo Samuels 715 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,959 Speaker 1: go over fifteen and a half yards I mean based 716 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: on what he did. I mean, he's pretty much their 717 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 1: all purpose player like forty five and a half. We're 718 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: getting to a point point where these two teams are 719 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: familiar with each other. They went over that and both matchups, 720 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: so to expect them to go under forty five into 721 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: the NFL, that's a little much. So I'm leaning over 722 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: and I actually might play that now. 723 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 3: I think we're going to get some points this weekend 724 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 3: in both of those games. So as we head out here, 725 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: we did not have a look ahead this week. All 726 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 3: we've got is just one game left after this. We 727 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 3: don't need to do our best best. We just hit 728 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 3: them all. But I did want to touch on this 729 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 3: for a couple of minutes here. So you and I 730 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: both have been telling folks on this podcast and on 731 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 3: social media, take the Niners futures. So we gave out 732 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 3: heading into the week eighteen game against the Rams. We 733 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 3: gave out on this podcast forty nine ers twenty five 734 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 3: to one to win the NFC, forty nine ers fifty 735 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 3: to one to win the Super Bowl. We've given that out, 736 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 3: you and I both multiple times since then, back in 737 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 3: the Niners. So I've got a lot of questions this 738 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 3: week from our listeners. Do we hedge this is a 739 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 3: spot where we're one game away from cashing that NFC ticket, 740 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 3: we're two wins away from a Super Bowl cash, We're 741 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 3: twenty five to one, and the money line is basically 742 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 3: at plus one point fifty or in that range. So 743 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 3: I just want to talk to you a little bit. 744 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 3: If you're in a spot and you're holding that twenty 745 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 3: five to one ticket on the Niners, would you hedge here? 746 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 3: And what's your theory on hedging? 747 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: If you have them to win the NFC, you could 748 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: safely hedge with taking the RAMS money and you can 749 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: guarantee yourself some profit. For me, I'm not really big 750 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: on if you have a Super Bowl future and hedging 751 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: right now. 752 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for me it's situational. But the fact 753 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 3: that we both like the Niners in this game specifically 754 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 3: so much means like we're hedging out of a position 755 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 3: that we like. Here, we're giving away value to bet 756 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 3: on the team that we don't like in this matchup, 757 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 3: which just it screams bad process. 758 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: I think a situational, like you said, it's how much 759 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: how much will it impact your life if you lose 760 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 1: this bet, or you know, how much are you looking 761 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: to get back? So it's a situational based on your 762 00:37:59,560 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: bank world. 763 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 3: That's the thing here. I'm assuming most of our listeners 764 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: like myself, like I just I have one unit on 765 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 3: the niners, so I want to win. I can win 766 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 3: the twenty five, I can win the fifty units. That's 767 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 3: a huge win here. But I don't stand to lose 768 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 3: too much. I stand to lose one unit. I got 769 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 3: one unit on a very few different NBA props tonight. 770 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 3: You know, one each on all those. So that's the 771 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 3: whole point of kind of managing your bankroll size. If 772 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 3: you aren't in so much like look, you could bet 773 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 3: the rams are minus one seventy in the money line. 774 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 3: You could bet one point seven units to basically guarantee 775 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 3: that worst case scenario you come out net even that 776 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 3: you get your money back from your initial bet. If 777 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 3: you were in for one unit, you your one point 778 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 3: seven Unit's basically what you're doing is you're sacrificing your 779 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 3: forty nine ers plus twenty five hundred ticket. You're turning 780 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 3: that into a plus twenty three thirty ticket. That's not terrible, yeah. 781 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: And that's it's always a good thing when you could 782 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: protect yourself from not losing. 783 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, A couple other things on the numbers. So if 784 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 3: you're trying to say, okay, how can I lock in 785 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 3: before the game? How I lock in my max profit? Here? 786 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 3: Again assuming one unit on that twenty five to one, 787 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 3: Just to give you an idea of what the math is, 788 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 3: you would have to bet fifteen units on the RAMS 789 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 3: money line, and if you do that, you lock in 790 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: being up about eight to nine units. You could you 791 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 3: could walk away right now no matter who wins, you 792 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 3: lock in eight or nine unit win. But again, we 793 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 3: have right now a money line ticket on a one 794 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 3: game for the forty nine ers at twenty five to one. 795 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 3: The money line number is plus one fifty five. If 796 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 3: you wanted to be able to bet the money line 797 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 3: to win twenty five units on just this game, if 798 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 3: you're a new better, you got to bet sixteen and 799 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 3: a half units to get that same payout we bet one. 800 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 3: So I'm not hedging. I like the position. If you 801 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 3: want to do kind of a sneaky possible hedge, that's 802 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 3: an aggressive hedge. You can actually put a little bit 803 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 3: on Chiefs over forty nine Ers in the Super Bowl. 804 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 3: That exact outcome is four to one odds. If you 805 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 3: believe those are the teams and meet in the Super Bowl, 806 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 3: but don't necessarily love the Niners in the matchup. You 807 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 3: could put like five of the units you think you're 808 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 3: gonna win this week on that matchup. You lock in 809 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 3: a plus twenty if the Chiefs win, or a plus 810 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 3: forty five units if the Niners end up winning the 811 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, only if you get your results this week. 812 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 3: So that might be the raheem play that if you 813 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: like what you're seeing, you can just go more all 814 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 3: in and get your twenty five unit win when the 815 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 3: Niners win, and then get a little more next week. 816 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: We all also have the benefit of the lab market, 817 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: so you could actually hope the forty nine ers go 818 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: up against the Rams and maybe put something on the Rams, 819 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: or you know, maybe you could look at the game 820 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: and say, you know. 821 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 4: What, I don't like this. 822 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't like how this game is going for the 823 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Let me just get something down on 824 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: the Rams. 825 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the math all changes. The RAMS money line 826 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 3: is minus one seventy. If you get close to an 827 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 3: even or a plus number on the Rams, you've got 828 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 3: a much more favorable opportunity to hatch at that point. 829 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 3: So everyone's a little different. Don't panic here, You've got 830 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 3: the winning ticket. Anyone would kill to be able to 831 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 3: buy your twenty five to one ticket. Don't give it away, 832 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 3: and don't give the value away. Keep the value here. 833 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 3: That's why we play the game. You play to win 834 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 3: the game playoffs, right, So that's going to wrap it 835 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 3: up here at the Action Network Podcast. Don't forget do 836 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: download the Action Network app if you haven't yet, a 837 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 3: lot of good stuff on there. You can see all 838 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 3: of our live picks and final decisions on plays there 839 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 3: as well. Don't forget their rate and review the podcast 840 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 3: on Apple and Spotify. Listen to Stucky Raybound six pack. 841 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 3: They got a few more angles on this on both 842 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 3: games and cover you here. Rahim and I are back 843 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 3: Monday morning to talk through both of these games and 844 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 3: everything we saw, and hopefully celebrate some big forty nine 845 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 3: ers features coming through for us. I'm Brandon Anderson and 846 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 3: this has been the Action Network Podcast. Enjoy your weekend. 847 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 3: Go Niner 848 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: The Spading the Scape to Sting to the spae U, 849 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: Sting the Spa