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Speaker 1: So many things on my mind, Rory, so many things

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Speaker 1: your mind is right. Couldn't wait to turn the MIC's on.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those days where you know you just

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Speaker 1: have a lot of ship to say.

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Speaker 2: There a lot did happen in the past few days. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and since we had reason on, we did miss a

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Speaker 2: few big topics as well from the past week. So

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to be back.

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Speaker 1: Let's get straight fucking to it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Bobby Gate, Oh man, you guys called me a hater.

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Speaker 2: Looks like we all from Grace is happening now?

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Speaker 1: Is that what we called?

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Speaker 4: We called you a hater?

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Speaker 5: Now we called him a hare? For sure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys actually said I was hating because I

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Speaker 2: actually agreed with Maul and gave him his flowers. When

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Speaker 2: I said, I was like, all right, this isn't gonna

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Speaker 2: last very long. Like the Drake shit was incredible. Then

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Speaker 2: I saw the Yaudi one. I was like, I see

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Speaker 2: what mal saying. The dry humor shoot is about ten.

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Speaker 2: But she did a podcast with Dave Fortnoy, who just

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Speaker 2: recently bought Barstool and has been in the press NonStop,

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Speaker 2: so this was already gonna be a big interview Dave.

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Speaker 1: Dave know how to stay in the headlines, don't he shot?

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Speaker 1: And then he just goes and takes pizza in the Hampton's.

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Speaker 2: And and then Barrake's employees.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotta love it.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Dave. But Bobby was definitely her real self.

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Speaker 2: She wasn't in character for this one, which she got

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Speaker 2: a lot of flak ford, which I'm not on that side, though,

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Speaker 2: what why she was supposed to if she's being interviewed,

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Speaker 2: it's not her platform, she's supposed to be the same

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Speaker 2: character because obviously it's a character.

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Speaker 1: It is, though, See the reason why I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's a character now at this point is because Dave

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Speaker 1: he released the DMS. Well Bobby did. She released the

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Speaker 1: DMS after Dave, you know, kind of alluded to the

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Speaker 1: DMS that he had with her. She posted a screenshot

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Speaker 1: of the DM and her caption says, I did not

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Speaker 1: want to do this podcast in the first place. That's

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Speaker 1: very telling because she's saying she didn't want to do

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Speaker 1: She really does not want to be there doing a

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Speaker 2: I think she was referring to doing Dave's podcast. I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, like that was from an interview.

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Speaker 2: That yeah, what was trying to play a podcast?

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Speaker 4: So Dave and Hir did an interview.

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Speaker 2: Where she was acting like her regular self, like wasn't talking.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't in the dry humor. Shit was out of character,

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Speaker 2: just talking about her journey since the Drake Show.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she doesn't mean like she doesn't mean her

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, she said she didn't want to fuck with Dave.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and they released Dave released a fake. Dave released

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Speaker 5: a part of the d M where he responded and said,

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Speaker 5: my girlfriend says you hooked up with Drake and got divorced.

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Speaker 5: Why I was saying, I don't know if he released

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Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, wait wait, I didn't. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: he released the DAM. I thought that they posted a

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Speaker 2: I've been following this closely. I'll give you the breakdown

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Speaker 2: at the time. All Bobby goes to the Drake Show,

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Speaker 2: Yes does it TikTok? Where she looks unamused, the same

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Speaker 2: way she stole your style looking unamused at the Drake Show.

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Speaker 4: I think that is definitely his style going.

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Speaker 2: Then from there Bobby and Drake unfollow each other. Ooh,

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Speaker 2: once the video of their interview was deleted off YouTube,

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, there has to be actual,

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Speaker 2: real people. Deleting a Drake interview off your YouTube is

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Speaker 2: fucking insane. Yea, like something really must be wrong.

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Speaker 1: That's that's like deleting the Drake verse your album.

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Speaker 4: That's insane.

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Speaker 2: True shout out to Trippy Rip. She does an interview

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Speaker 2: with Dave, but then Dave does another podcast where he

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Speaker 2: alludes to him speaking with Bobby that she fucked Drake.

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Speaker 2: He didn't lie, but he did kind of manipulate what

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Speaker 2: their DM conversation was. So once that clip went.

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Speaker 1: Well, he just blurred his lips. He didn't, he just

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like you got to listen to the

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Speaker 2: So then Bobby posts the DMS like, no, dude, I

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Speaker 2: told you that I didn't sleep with Drake. You left

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Speaker 2: that part out.

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Speaker 1: You made it.

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Speaker 2: You made it sound like I didn't answer the question

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Speaker 2: when I clearly did answer the question, which I respect

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Speaker 2: Bobby for doing. Like, even if Dave didn't say it,

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Speaker 2: he alluded to it when that was already a rumor, Like,

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Speaker 2: don't do that your platform is fucking huge.

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Speaker 1: Did he allude to it though, yes, he definitely. He

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Speaker 1: like it kind of blurred yeah.

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Speaker 2: Which is crazy when she straight up said, uh, that's

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Speaker 2: the rumor right now. I'm not commenting publicly, but off

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Speaker 2: the record, You're right. That's like, I didn't fuck Drake

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Speaker 2: and I'm not getting divorced, so I can see why

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Speaker 2: she would be upset about that, but it didn't really help.

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Speaker 2: Everyone still thinks she fucked Drake.

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Speaker 1: Which is fucked up. It is kind of great. That's

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Speaker 1: fucked though when you think about it, like because you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously she's a grown woman and she's married,

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Speaker 1: but to put this out here that she may have

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Speaker 2: I mean, in the theory that everything is within a rollout,

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Speaker 2: a troll and to give this girl another moment Drake's great, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just gonna follow you and then we can start

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Speaker 2: that rumor. I think Drake, who's on tour right now,

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Speaker 2: needs some extra enery atainment. I'm sure Drake finds this

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Speaker 2: hilarious in his hotel room after shows. Yeah, artists do

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Speaker 2: a lot of weird shit when they're on tour because

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Speaker 2: they're bored. I want to know what, I think this

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Speaker 2: could be a troll in some degree because that no

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Speaker 2: matter what, that video you can find on the internet.

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Speaker 2: Even though they deleted it off on account, which is crazy,

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Speaker 2: it'll still exist forever.

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Speaker 1: But my thing is this made a whole new moment, right.

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Speaker 1: We have to we have to we have to get

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Speaker 1: to the why is the episode deleted? Because that's that's that.

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna tell everything.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: We speculated, we said maybe there was an agreement before

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Speaker 1: they you know, shot that that that interview was only

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Speaker 1: it would be weird, which was which would be weird,

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Speaker 1: But maybe that's what it was. Like, Yo, it can

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Speaker 1: live on your your YouTube channel for a month. You know,

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Speaker 1: Drake is one of the biggest artists in the world.

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Speaker 1: I could see a point where he wouldn't make that

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Speaker 1: type of request. Yeah, like you could leave it on

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Speaker 1: your YouTube for a month and then that's it. Take

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Speaker 4: Well, what's the difference? People download shit all the time.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but I'm again, I you know, I think

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think. I don't think that new

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Speaker 1: came on to her. He made it pass at her

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Speaker 1: a bunch of shit that people are saying, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, no, I don't think that's why.

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Speaker 2: It's funny to say though unfortunately, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean it's funny, it's funny to say, but it's fucked

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Speaker 5: Even if she wasn't married, it would be still fucked

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Speaker 1: She was she was singing the body on someone.

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Speaker 5: You know, especially because it's already painted at any woman

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Speaker 5: It's mamosoggist.

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Speaker 2: Well, they've been close to Drake. But even with Drake too, like,

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Speaker 2: don't put a body on him. It doesn't affect him

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Speaker 2: the same way it's gonna affect by right, absolutely, but

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Speaker 1: But it's it is interesting because again.

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Speaker 2: Even though I did last episode.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you literally started the entire rumor.

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Speaker 2: I did not. I was already I did not start

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Speaker 1: And I thinking I took it to another level and

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't have said that. Yeah, No, I apologize for

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Speaker 2: When she was talking with Dave Plus, she explained that

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Speaker 2: the Yachty experience was really awkward and weird and he

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Speaker 2: wasn't very hospitable.

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Speaker 1: Did she did his podcast?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, went to his house, said that like barely acknowledge

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Speaker 2: I'm getting all this negativity now. If you want to

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Speaker 2: go interview rappers and step into the hip hop space,

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Speaker 2: that means people in the hip hop space are going

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Speaker 2: to critique you, and you can't be upset about that.

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Speaker 2: If you're coming from outside, especially if you're coming from

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Speaker 2: outside the genre or the culture, you can't be mad

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Speaker 2: that people are critiquing you in the culture.

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Speaker 1: You came here so take it.

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Speaker 2: And once you start speaking about somebody from the culture

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Speaker 2: and a negative way that everyone has said nothing but

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Speaker 2: positive fucking things about. Rarely have you ever heard someone

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Speaker 2: not say amazing things about y'ay as far as like

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Speaker 2: his personality, who he is as.

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Speaker 1: A human being.

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Speaker 2: To then go and shit on him after he did

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Speaker 2: And then to be like, damn, I'm getting all this negativity.

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Speaker 2: What did you think you would get? You're speaking about

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Speaker 5: Do you want?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't. I think she wanted to do the

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Speaker 1: That's Drake, wasn't it. No, she did our money, she did.

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Speaker 5: She did funny Marco.

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Speaker 5: It was her first interview.

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Speaker 4: Rick Lastman was her first.

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Speaker 2: Okay who but ninety nine percent of it has been Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you came in as you can't complain if you

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Speaker 1: Do you think that because from the gate people that

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Speaker 4: That's gonna happen. She's a white girl doing interviews with black.

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Speaker 1: I don't nowhere. I gotta drink it exactly. So this

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Speaker 1: is my point. It sounds like somebody is set this

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Speaker 2: Ship Okay, Okay, so you're yeah, you're saying someone literally

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Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. I think she never wanted

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Speaker 1: She had a choice'll have the choice. But I'm just

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 4: I think that's just that's the stick.

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Speaker 2: That's the character and the stick.

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Speaker 1: I think it's is it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's funny that people are looking at

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, of course, she's doing a character.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to watch the Dave interview for real,

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Speaker 1: Like, well, I'm going out saying I don't think that

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Speaker 4: Damn where does she go from here back to TikTok?

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Speaker 5: And do we get an explanations the big TikTok person.

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Speaker 2: Do you think we'll get an explanation for the Drake

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Speaker 1: No, that's that's nuts.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm sure I think we'll get it.

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Speaker 1: I think we will get an explanation. I don't know

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three between the media space and who

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Speaker 2: Fucking Drake? Is a Drake interview being deleted? Maybe I'm

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Speaker 2: maybe I think that's crazier than y'all do.

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Speaker 4: I mean, why that's crazy?

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Speaker 1: Like Wise, I think Drake had deleted once you looked

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Speaker 4: It was funny, though there wasn't There's no way that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, well, no, I believe that it's an interview.

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Speaker 4: I get it. What's happening. I think it's just I

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Speaker 1: You think this is all part of another This.

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Speaker 4: Is all like for some rollout or some bullshit that

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Speaker 2: I mean, she just did the Tiger Ship, she did the.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it's not gonna stop. She's on she's on.

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Speaker 1: The offset ship. Like you think she gets another episode

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Speaker 1: with Drake.

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Speaker 4: No, but that would be hilarious.

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Speaker 1: I think so.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. If that happens, then then that would

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Speaker 1: I think they get a new episode. I think they

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Speaker 1: shoot again. I think they shoot again.

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Speaker 2: I can see them doing a TikTok video like a quick.

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Speaker 1: Like no, I think kill, I think not, and Drake

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Speaker 1: feeling it? Like I could totally see that going into

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Speaker 5: Drake's not giving her that much. There's he's not doing that.

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Speaker 1: If he's if he's if he's secretly invested in this podcast,

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Speaker 1: he is. That's what I'm trying to say. There's somebody

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Speaker 2: That's I can totally That's why I think deleting it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: Makes it more legendary like, then it got deleted and

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Speaker 2: maybe she fucked Drake.

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Speaker 1: She didn't fun that part we could leave out.

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Speaker 4: I don't think she fucked Drake.

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Speaker 1: I could care less about that. I don't think that's

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Speaker 4: It's like, I mean, it.

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Speaker 2: well he beat, Like that's crazy that everyone.

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Speaker 1: Which was like he must have beat. But how do

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Speaker 4: Which one of y'all said that he fucked too many

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Speaker 4: pretty girls and now he's going to the ugly ones quo.

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Speaker 2: That's not how we work, that's not how not how

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Speaker 2: I worked, because Julian.

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Speaker 1: Then Julian was like, it's kind of like John Mayer,

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Speaker 1: was like, John May has slept with guys. I didn't

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Speaker 2: You guys putting narratives out there that are dead that

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Speaker 2: people like Drake have fucked so many women they're attracted

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Speaker 2: to that they start to find things that they probably

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what what. I don't listen, I know.

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Speaker 5: Even like try new toys or something.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I know Drake has had his fair shareed women, right,

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying it ever gets tied, and I

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Speaker 2: don't really want to. Like, this is even weird talking

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Speaker 2: But I think people, when you have that much sex,

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Speaker 1: Nah, that's started. Maybe that's totally crazy. Thin Pizzagate came

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Speaker 1: out of nowhere. It ain't that much. It ain't that

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Speaker 1: I've had enough. I've had enough. A man has ever

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm he's saying that he's not gonna keep sucking

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Speaker 4: To, just saying sometimes you gotta switch it up, so

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't do because you've done the same thing so

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Speaker 1: Nah.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a crazy theory. That's not just Drake.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of entertainers, actors, people that have

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Speaker 1: I think that's a common thing.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen like like had do Like you know what,

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Speaker 4: let me just try cracking.

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Speaker 1: Well, they try to. They try to paint it like that.

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Speaker 1: That's true. YEA, tell you something. I smoked a lot

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Speaker 1: of weed. Now one night, have I laid down one? Yeah? No,

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Speaker 1: heroin is tomorrow. We have a so Bernice was weed

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Speaker 1: and that Bobby was there. Yea, it's just like, no,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen like that, like you do ship like

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Speaker 1: guys have your theories. I have mine. Honestly, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is true for real. Either way, I do think

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Speaker 1: she's she said that. I think that's what she meant.

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Speaker 1: She never was a podcast at all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do think that we do get another Drake sighting

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Speaker 1: to like what he's talking about and songs he's playing

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Speaker 1: for her, Like well.

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Speaker 2: She like what about her husband and two kids? Because

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Speaker 1: No, not only you don't have to go on tour,

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Speaker 1: but you know, you keep going back to, you know,

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Speaker 1: I always said it. I always said, who is this girl?

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Speaker 1: Who's her family? Somebody's behind this podcast?

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Speaker 2: I texted someone. I'm not snitching because he didn't give

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Speaker 2: me any information, but I hit I hit somebody over

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Speaker 2: at W and ME because that's who repent answer. And

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Speaker 2: when the shit got deleted and he said he walked

443
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Speaker 2: in the office and asked the same question like all right,

444
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Speaker 2: what's the real reason, And everyone in w ME was like, oh,

445
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Speaker 2: we don't know. You're right, Yeah, you fucked your clients, yea, yeah,

446
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Speaker 2: don't tell me otherwise A lot of my.

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Speaker 1: Face like that you don't do that. We're not doing that,

448
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Speaker 1: but hey, he held it down for wm me. No,

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Speaker 1: I respect that. I respect holding it down. Don't let

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Speaker 1: nothing out of the building, yeh, you know, and continue

451
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Speaker 1: to do what y'all do over there.

452
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Speaker 2: But no, I had to be messy this month. Over

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Speaker 2: here at New Roy and Maul, we're doing a special

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Speaker 2: series of episodes to celebrate fifty years of hip hop.

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Speaker 1: Maull.

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Speaker 2: We wouldn't even be podcasting it wasn't for hip hop.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we would be born without it.

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't be sitting here if it wasn't for hip hop.

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Speaker 2: So it's extremely important to us to sit and take

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Speaker 2: some time to really celebrate and reflect what hip hop

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Speaker 2: has done for us for the last fifty years. But

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Speaker 2: we couldn't have done that with our our friends over

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Speaker 2: at eBay.

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Speaker 1: eBay knows how important it is to be real Rory. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: a lot of fakes out there, Rory, absolutely, But eBay

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Speaker 1: does a lot with the Authenticity Guarantee to make sure

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Speaker 1: that we are not getting any fake products.

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Speaker 2: We don't do fake and hip hop no fugazis. Well,

471
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Speaker 2: you know, I get paranoid every time I try to

472
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Speaker 2: buy things on the internet because you never really know

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Speaker 2: what you're gonna buy. Thank God, though, anytime I'm looking

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Speaker 2: for sneakers or watches, I can go to eBay and

475
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Speaker 2: know I'm getting exactly what I'm purchasing on that screen.

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Speaker 1: The real deal, not the fugayze. Of course, I was

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Speaker 1: nervous about buying sneakers online, but then I know eBay

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Speaker 1: has an authenticity guarantee. Went to eBay, got my retel

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Speaker 1: Jordan Ones, good to go.

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Speaker 1: To celebrate fifty years of hip hop, we sat down

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Speaker 1: with the legendary Sharry Bryant, president of Rock Nation. Enjoy

485
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Speaker 1: it now, because a lot of people don't know you

486
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Speaker 1: had a major part of the whole dream Chases taking

487
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Speaker 1: off with Meek, worked with Ross. How much of that

488
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Speaker 1: do you still see? Like and you're like, Okay, my

489
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Speaker 1: DNA is still there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and THEG.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So what's crazy is that I felt like what we

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Speaker 7: learned that Rockefeller I just kind of like reapplied to

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Speaker 7: MMG when you know, when I got the chance to

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Speaker 7: work with Ross, and we did, we applied the same thing.

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Speaker 7: It was about the camaraderie. It was about leveraging each

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Speaker 7: artists against each other. It was about you know, just

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Speaker 7: making sure that one artist didn't feel bigger than the other.

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Speaker 7: And then we just kind of like approached things as

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Speaker 7: a unit and.

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Speaker 1: It worked, right.

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Speaker 5: It was like the same I always.

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Speaker 7: Tell people, the blueprint is there, it's just as much

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Speaker 7: as you're gonna follow it, right, But it takes a

505
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Speaker 7: lot of dimming down the ego and being like, you know,

506
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Speaker 7: operating as one.

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Speaker 5: So it was in Ross. I always give credit to Ross.

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Speaker 7: He was an amazing leader in a sense of he

509
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Speaker 7: wanted all of them to win, you know, because it

510
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Speaker 7: takes that person to like really truly want it and

511
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Speaker 7: not appear like you want it for it to work.

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Speaker 7: And he was amazing with that. I mean, there was

513
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Speaker 7: nothing that we couldn't acts of him to leverage his brand,

514
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Speaker 7: to help his to help MMG, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: And that was a big part of why why it worked.

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Speaker 7: And I mean, how much of it do I see today?

517
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Speaker 7: They're all, you know, Wallet's in a much different place

518
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Speaker 7: than he was when we signed, when you know, we

519
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Speaker 7: had originally signed him.

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Speaker 5: We meet became.

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Speaker 7: Like you know, a household name, and I do a

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Speaker 7: tribute that to like the foundation that we laid, sure,

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Speaker 7: you know, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And even to backtrack a little before that, And in

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Speaker 2: no way do I want to get in any Rockefeller

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Speaker 2: breakup message, just more personally your view of being in

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Speaker 2: a system for so long and now that system is done, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: how did you feel personally outside of any breakup mess?

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Speaker 2: Like you personally sitting there like, all right, I've been

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Speaker 2: in the system since I'm fifteen sixteen? Yeap, What the fuck?

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Speaker 2: How do you navigate through that?

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Speaker 5: It was? It was nerve wrecking.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was because as as much as I felt

534
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Speaker 7: like I knew what I was doing, it was still

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Speaker 7: different to have to go out in the world and

536
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Speaker 7: not have that comfort anymore, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: And I didn't realize that because I was like really

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Speaker 7: proud and like, oh I've done a lot, But it

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Speaker 7: was a reality set in moment once I had to

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Speaker 7: go out there in a real world because I mean,

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Speaker 7: you know, it felt again it felt like home. So

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Speaker 7: leaving home is you know, always scary, and so that

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Speaker 7: took an adjustment for sure. And then I also felt

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Speaker 7: like because I was so young, because I was still

545
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Speaker 7: young when Rockefeller kind of broke up, it felt like

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Speaker 7: I had to reprove myself, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 7: Like I felt like people thought I was protected and

548
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Speaker 7: that it wasn't really the work, it was the protection

549
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Speaker 7: of demon and you know, and so I had to

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Speaker 7: go out there and really kind of like do it

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Speaker 7: all over again. I had to go be an assistant

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Speaker 7: after I was already a marketing director. Yeah, kind of

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Speaker 7: at Rockefeller. And that's why I always tell people don't

554
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Speaker 7: be afraid to take a step backwards to move forward,

555
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Speaker 7: because sometimes it could set you up for amazing things.

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Speaker 6: Oh you know, you know, you know right, Oh, yes,

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Speaker 6: that's also what's like so fucked up about the business

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Speaker 6: and even how they like view joint ventures, like to

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Speaker 6: call Rockefeller joint venture.

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Speaker 2: I know sounds blasphemous, but at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: that's what it was. And how you both have described

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Speaker 2: that environment of why we love Rockefeller sounds like it

563
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Speaker 2: came from the office environment that and to think and

564
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Speaker 2: to have the arrogance that once that breaks up, all

565
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Speaker 2: the people that worked there didn't add value, and that

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Speaker 2: they don't have anything to offer. They need to start

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Speaker 2: from the beginning. It's fucking insane to me, like these

568
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Speaker 2: people gave you the sauce. They should like you need them.

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Speaker 2: Just because that broke up doesn't mean anything. That was

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Speaker 2: a quick clip of our celebration of fifty years of

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Speaker 2: hip hop sponsored by eBay Subscribing.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned to our YouTube for the full conversation YouTube

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Speaker 1: dot Com Forward Slash New Rory and Mall.

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Speaker 2: Now back to the episode.

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Speaker 1: Once again, Rory, everything is content where you take what

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Speaker 1: you're giving. Life gives you lemons.

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Speaker 2: Do you do a video with us here?

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Speaker 1: You make key lin pie? Right? Okay, key key pie,

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Speaker 1: kekey lim pie. See Okay, So we remember the whole

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Speaker 1: debacle of Keiki Palmer being at Usher show us. You're

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Speaker 1: singing to her, serenading her with ch uh. She had

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Speaker 1: on her dress where you know, it was a little

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Speaker 1: viso the cheeks a little bit, you know, it was sexy,

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Speaker 1: sexy dress she had on. Yeah, and her uh, fiance, right,

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Speaker 1: was it her fiance.

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Speaker 5: Her baby daddy?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well they're not married or were married.

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Speaker 1: We're engaged.

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Speaker 5: No, it was never confirmed. It's never been.

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Speaker 1: They never confirmed key Palma never confirmed her she was

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Speaker 1: engaged in that if she.

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Speaker 5: People were having rumors that they were married. That was

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Speaker 5: never confirmed.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well her part they were just partners.

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Speaker 1: Partner, her partner, he went to he went to social

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Speaker 1: media to to you know, voices disdain.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't like with DEMI said, a father of

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Speaker 2: her child, not her baby daddy. Respect the men a

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Speaker 2: little bit more.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't like you become a dad. Certain

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Speaker 1: ship just stinks you a little differently now, right, father

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Speaker 1: of your child. Yeah. So her partner went to his

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Speaker 1: social media and you know, expressed how he was feeling

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Speaker 1: about what she was wearing and he felt it was respectful.

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Speaker 1: And then I guess maybe a few days later they

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Speaker 1: announced a breakup or split, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 1: Fast forward to maybe a month now, a month later

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Speaker 1: and uh, Keiky Palmer is now in a video with Usher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah Wow titled boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: Titled boyfriend talk about taking a negative and turn it

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Speaker 1: into another negative.

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Speaker 2: This is kind ofquestingly. And I hope, I hope I'm

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Speaker 2: not overreacting, And it could just because I have a

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Speaker 2: different lens on things now because your father, because I'm

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Speaker 2: the father of a child, and baby daddy, daddy, baby

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Speaker 2: daddy just sounds like dead beatish.

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Speaker 4: A little bit.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what it is. No, it's not baby dad.

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Speaker 5: You had you a daddy with a baby.

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Speaker 1: Nah, I'm a father.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Like if I say my baby mama, it sounds

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Speaker 2: like a little yeah, yeah, that's a negative baby daddy.

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Speaker 1: Baby Nobody wants to be a baby mama, and nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to be a baby daddy.

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Speaker 4: That's the mother of my child.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to be a father, you want to

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Speaker 1: be a mother.

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Speaker 2: It's only cute, Like when jay Z says it about Beyonce.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's better than sperm donor.

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Speaker 2: That's that's when you're not even life. That's when it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: just my biological father, nobody, my twenty three and meters

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Speaker 2: over there.

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Speaker 1: Nobody would even show up at your funeral at this point.

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Speaker 2: Right, But no, I think this is kind of crazy

635
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Speaker 2: if they just broke up. The petty shit is the

636
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Speaker 2: petty shit. It's kind of funny. Whatever gets you a

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Speaker 2: little bit of petty is okay, it's totally It makes

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Speaker 2: for great entertainment. And you went on Twitter and said

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. Doing this to the father of your child, though,

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Speaker 2: with the pettiness is a little extreme for me. Maybe

641
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: it's not as serious as we think it is. And

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00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 2: they've you know, reconciled everything and he was fine with it.

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Speaker 2: But when you do the petty games. It's fine when

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Speaker 2: you're just exis Yeah. When you have to co parent

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Speaker 2: and you're doing petty shit directly taking shots in front

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Speaker 2: of the whole world with Usher against your ex and

647
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Speaker 2: father of your child, yes, I think it's fucking crazy.

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Speaker 2: That makes co parenting way more difficult.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing you got to remember, keeping context.

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Speaker 1: She's an actress, great one, Zach Payner, great one. So

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Speaker 1: maybe this is just her way of expressing.

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Speaker 2: She was singing at Lusher. She didn't express anything.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, she's an Usher fan, obviously she was

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Speaker 1: at the show. She's expressed at Usher. She was a

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Speaker 1: big fan of Usher growing up. I think this was

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Speaker 1: just the opportunity for them to turn a moment that

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Speaker 1: they had together publicly on social media, like let's take

658
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Speaker 1: it a step further. Let's let's let's have fun. Let's

659
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: shoot the video. I'll, you know, mimic you and some

660
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: of your older videos and your dance moves. And I mean,

661
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: she did a great job. She looks great, she's she's

662
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: she's dancing the ass, so she can really dance. But

663
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: I feel you, But no, this doesn't happen unless her

664
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: ex puts that tweet out.

665
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 4: That's her faults.

666
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you now, Like.

667
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: If if that video service of just Kiky Palmer like

668
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: in that outfit, it was some.

669
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: Ship would have would happened.

670
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: But what took that to the next level was when

671
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: her outreach her partner was like, Yo, this is crazy.

672
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely double down on what everyone's saying on the internet.

673
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: You think Kiky Palmer is playing usher in a video

674
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: without her husband, boyfriend partner doing that, because that's where

675
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: that's where it's nasty, because this wouldn't happen. You're clearly

676
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: just doing it to spite me.

677
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 5: Again, the podcaster, I'm calling bullshit, calling bullshit.

678
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: Because he would never pod with me.

679
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 5: She would never palm you.

680
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: He would let Ky palm you. Hey, he's in.

681
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 5: Respect respect to Kiki I'm falling bullshit because as a podcaster,

682
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 5: it's literally your job to make content out of big

683
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 5: moments that happened in your real life. I would judge

684
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 5: Kiki if she didn't take advantage of this opportunity. Granted,

685
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 5: I don't think this is her idea. This is Usher's video.

686
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 5: Somebody on Usher's team or him had the idea, wrote

687
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 5: the treatment called Kiki said, Kiki, I think that this

688
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 5: will be funny for you to do. Kiki has expressed,

689
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 5: even in this tweet right here, that she has always

690
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 5: been a huge Usher fan.

691
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: All Right, you're you're you're playing semantics because what you're

692
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: saying is true. But not in the case at the

693
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: detriment of co parenting.

694
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: The pappy somewhere is sick behind this ship, like of

695
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: course it's supposed to make a moment. This moment is

696
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: they have made up and they made sure well.

697
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 5: The gossip rags are saying that they and he's moved on.

698
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: Cools they're broken up and he's moved on, and he's

699
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: moved on been a week, so yeah, this hurts this

700
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: this thing.

701
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 5: But they've a very obviously having issues in that tweet.

702
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 5: If you guys aren't having issues like where he said

703
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 5: when it first happened.

704
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: So you're saying that was that was Kiki's fucking dress. Huh,

705
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: could have been like.

706
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 4: I'm out, yeah, only she planned for that moment to happen, though.

707
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: That sucks when she goes out in that dress and

708
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: then also gets serenaded by Azure.

709
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: It's a big star man.

710
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: But of course the marries, you're supposed to make moments

711
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: out of stuff, and this is funny and all that

712
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: to the world. But if this was really a big issue,

713
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: even if it's my ex partner, I still have to

714
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: cope with them and doing spiteful ship. That's gonna really

715
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: trigger them and be and feel like it's disrespectful to them.

716
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: That makes it hard to fucking copare. But when you're

717
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: taking shots at each other public like I said, I

718
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: don't think that tweet he did was the smart thing either,

719
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: Like we're family, let's keep shitting out. We can talk

720
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: about it. I thought that was corny. But now you're

721
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: just getting we're just going back and forth on public ship.

722
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 5: Well, I'm supposed to miss out on a huge opportunity

723
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 5: of my life that you handed down to me because

724
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 5: you want to be a fucking loser.

725
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: So this is gonna come and go. I'm supposed to

726
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 2: This is not going to be the moment you think

727
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: it's gonna be.

728
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 5: But I don't even think she wants it to be

729
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 5: a moment.

730
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: This will be done in two days.

731
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: She wants to know.

732
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 5: I think Usher, no, no, no, no no.

733
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: I think not a bad record. This is done.

734
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 5: Wanted it to be a moment, they both.

735
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: I think, of course the video he wanted to.

736
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 5: Be a moment. I think Keky was living her best.

737
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: I'm a fucking Usher fan life.

738
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't be a fan like that though. You

739
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: can go to the show, but you give me in

740
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: a video next month, and I feel like that's ridiculous.

741
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 5: Music who has her own career and wants to build

742
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 5: up her career and sticking up for all women and

743
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 5: all of this. But know what her, what her child's

744
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 5: father did was loser ship to begin with. Let's say

745
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 5: they broke up. I'm supposed to watch out for your

746
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 5: You didn't watch out for my feelings when you sent

747
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 5: that to When I've been a known I keep my

748
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 5: personal life personal. I've never had drou you guarded that.

749
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: Whole shit, But a little too crazy with Okay.

750
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 5: Now, I'm supposed to look out for your feelings when

751
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 5: you didn't look out for mine. This isn't to be.

752
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: Again, what you're saying is correct if they were just ex'es.

753
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: Yes, she has every right to do this, especially after

754
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: he did that public shit, but at what cost? Like

755
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: that's where maturity comes in when you have a kid, Like,

756
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: maybe I just shouldn't do shit, even if I'm correct

757
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: in doing it, because I want to have a healthy

758
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 2: co parent relationship. I'm not gonna do shit even if

759
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: I am right in doing it to spite somebody, especially

760
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: something that clearly triggered them already.

761
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 4: That's maturity where he already knew about this, that this

762
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 4: is gonna happen.

763
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 5: I think that for sure.

764
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he knew this is gonna happen, like

765
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 4: the moment when it came with the whole thing with

766
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: Usher like in the live show, and then now this

767
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 4: is happening, he probably knows. Like, I don't think it's

768
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 4: that serious.

769
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: Now if they didn't have like a full talk about

770
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: this entire shit. Yeah, I think it's super fucked.

771
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 4: Really, I can see where it's kind of corny, only

772
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: because at the end of the day that he's gonna

773
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: get some slack over that too. They're gonna make fun

774
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 4: of his ass. Everybody's gonna make fun of his ass

775
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: for the fact that she's doing the whole Usher video

776
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: and ship.

777
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: Like I don't give a funk about the people on

778
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: the internet to be making fun of like like I

779
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: would be mad at my expart like really, like that

780
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: was already a terrible thing that broke us up, even

781
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: though I'm sure it was mad other ship and that

782
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: was just the last straw. But you're then gonna go.

783
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: And do the video.

784
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: I don't think doing the video is that crazy.

785
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 5: That I mean to, but like, like I'm sensitive, so

786
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 5: you know the thing.

787
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: So let's so let's hear. No, I'm just saying you're

788
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: in general, shut up, shut just shut I know, I

789
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: know you didn't just say that. We can go back

790
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: to hoodie gate right now if you want to, you

791
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: can talk about right now because with that hoodie gonna

792
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: be in three weeks, all right, So that's not if

793
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: it was averse. If this was Kreesha and You're baby

794
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: Daddy was an extra in Kreashia video and Karsha was

795
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: dancing with him and grinding on you would feel some

796
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: type of way home get me.

797
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: No, I would not ship all right, you know why

798
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 2: y'all don't do that and subscribe to our Patreon to

799
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: about America and her.

800
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 5: I'm no longer allowed to talk about that.

801
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: It's you're no longer allowed to talk about it.

802
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 5: I made a promise that I can no longer talk

803
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 5: about Oh look at.

804
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: You respecting even though they're an ex partner. Just wish

805
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: to make a healthier relationship.

806
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: And y'all ain't even got kill.

807
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 5: Usher told me to talk about it. I'll talk about it.

808
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: I don't know that.

809
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: You'll talk about it. Yes, okay, I.

810
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 5: Can understand if it was t I but Usher, where

811
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 5: did you land on boondocks? The Boondocks reference?

812
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's funny. It took me a while,

813
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: Like you got to pull references that we'll like, get

814
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: off the top. How can you not get that off

815
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: the top because it ain't really on our brain like hey,

816
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: boon docks at the moment.

817
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, but anyway, we can agree to disagree whether he

818
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 5: key was wrong or not.

819
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: Well, if the tables were reversed, if that was you know,

820
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: your baby fall in a video of Koreisha or you

821
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: know whoever the young hot girl is right now, you

822
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: would feel some type of way.

823
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 5: Okay, but even I'm not saying he doesn't have the

824
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 5: right to feel some type of way. I'm saying, why

825
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 5: should my decisions be based on you feeling some type

826
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 5: of because I'm wrong for feelings.

827
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys have a kid together.

828
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: We have a child together. Yeah, that's what this whole

829
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: thing dimmed from is the fact that he was upset

830
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: that she wore what she wore because she's a mom.

831
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: She's a mom. Two wrongs don't make it right now.

832
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: His approach don't give me to him going to social

833
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: media with all that, I thought was like, unnecessarily, you

834
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: can just talk with your with your you know, your

835
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: partner when she gets home, like you don't have to.

836
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was stupid Courtney for that.

837
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: I didn't think that was nearly firy, but you know,

838
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 1: people handing things differently either way, it's a cool moment.

839
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: I guess you know what do y'all think about the

840
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: song Bobby Beat.

841
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: Did Kiky beat?

842
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: No?

843
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: No, we've already your staff trying to have a messy podcast.

844
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I shouldn't we're about to go on vacation.

845
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: Let's just leave with Semester and come back to Semester

846
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: to clean up.

847
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

848
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: Not being in the Bahamas with no Wi Fi good

849
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: for you.

850
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: The world just burning. So what do y'all think about?

851
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 5: That's your song?

852
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: It's all right, it's cool.

853
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: He released a cool bop.

854
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: It is.

855
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: It's cool.

856
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: It's just I'm not trying to be safe here.

857
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: It's just cool.

858
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 4: It's cool. You think they're playing that around Kiki's baby daddy.

859
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 5: Probably, I hope the moment you walk into club they

860
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 5: playing that, That's what I'm saying.

861
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: But if you're that's real fast, I think that's fucked up.

862
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: Here's a real friend. You pull up in front of

863
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: his crib to pick him up and have that play.

864
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, your friend, your friend could do that, but not

865
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: some random dude. No, then it's like, you can't do that.

866
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: If Kiki's uh baby father walks into the club, not

867
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: to the club, you got to fight the DJ. Yeah,

868
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: I stared a.

869
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 2: Lot of DJs do some bold ship with artists that work,

870
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: like what I've seen people play fifty records around joh Oh.

871
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: I thought that was like, all right, you got to

872
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: fight right like, and he's right there.

873
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: I just saw what was that? A few weeks ago,

874
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: a DJ in Miami played at gun Play's birthday played

875
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: fifties music. It's crazy and gunp plays start flipping that

876
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: shit upside. I'll kill everybody in this motherfucker. You heard

877
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: somebody in the video like y'all am off the bout No.

878
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 2: Gun Play was in there going crazy, but I didn't

879
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: know that, like cocaine gun No.

880
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: But like when you get the full story, he played

881
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: about three fifty records, so it was in past back.

882
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: It's like you know what you're doing, Like now you're

883
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: playing games, like don't don't do that. You can't play

884
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: fifty records while gun plays. It's gun Play's birthday party.

885
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: Oh what the fuck is wrong with him? And like

886
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: you're celebrating his birthday at the club and you playing

887
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: fifty fifty cent many men and I smelled pussy and

888
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: all this, like and I can understand that's not even

889
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: and it's Miami, Like they don't really they don't play

890
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: fifty down.

891
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: There like doesn't get burn it, like, like what.

892
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: Are you doing? Like you don't play that in the club,

893
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: especially if it's gun plays birth The DJ knew what

894
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: he was doing. Gunplay was absolutely in the right for

895
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: flipping that shit up and down and throwing garbage cans.

896
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: He was right.

897
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 2: I agree, and like it could maybe an unaware DJ

898
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: may play like in the club by accident, like oh shit,

899
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: my bad. But three in row is an extremely I

900
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: smelled pussy. Yeah, that's crazy, that's what DJ to play.

901
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: I smell pussy at Gunplay's birthday part. That's intentional. Bro, No,

902
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: it's fucking well, that's that's that's intentional. I understood. I

903
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: understood gun Play ready to go to the car and

904
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: get the drip.

905
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I know it was a side note,

906
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: But I'm happy Kiki got her childhood moment, her favorite artist.

907
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: My childhood was destroyed. Why over the past few days.

908
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought about you, Roy, I saw what I

909
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: saw the lad interview with Ali from the same Lunatics.

910
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: You know, Santa Claus is not real? Yeah, I know,

911
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: I know this is this is your Santa Claus. It's

912
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: not real moment. So Ali did an interview with Ladd

913
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: and he spoke about the fact that he wrote probably

914
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: seventy five to eighty percent.

915
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 2: He never kept going Wayne vermis be like listen, I

916
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: wrote one hundred and percent of everything.

917
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he he basically said he wrote all of

918
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: Nellie's first album, and if you know, Nellie's first album,

919
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: Country Grandma, one of the biggest hip hop albums of

920
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: all time. Like, so for Ali to say now that

921
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: he wrote ninety seven percent of it after was a shot.

922
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: After Nelly just sold his catalog for what I believe

923
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: was fifty million dollars.

924
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: Goddamn.

925
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: But we had always heard like the story of Nelly

926
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: going to shop Saint Lunatic's records and go solo, that

927
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: was something that like Murphy Lee's talked about that's been around.

928
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

929
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: I did not.

930
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: Of course, that's kind of fucked up, But I didn't

931
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: think like it was that crazy if he was writing

932
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: his verses. If you're shopping the group's music and you

933
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: didn't even write any of it, and then you go

934
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: solo with our records that we wrote for you, that's

935
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: pretty fucking foul. Absolutely that that's a foul shit.

936
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: This fucked up.

937
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: But if that's true, because I think Nelly should tell

938
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: his side.

939
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: If it's true, I don't. I don't think. I mean,

940
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: I hope Ali wouldn't get up them live about right

941
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: and all.

942
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: It doesn't come across as a liar.

943
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he didn't. It looked like he didn't have

944
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: any type of you know hate. Yeah.

945
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: He was saying in the interview that when people were

946
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: you know, critics, when Nelly starts to quote unquote fall

947
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: off after that double album of like damn, I wish

948
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: Nelly would go back to the country grammar type shit,

949
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: the Nellyville type shit. He's like, yeah, because I stopped

950
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: writing for him, Like it was a clear fall off

951
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: when I stopped not only picking the beats, writing harmonies,

952
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: getting hooks from Murphy Lee, writing his verses.

953
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, things changed.

954
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: He's like, Nelly can write, he just takes a long

955
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: time forever to write a sixteen and I would just

956
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: come up with everything. And at that point, Nelly delivered

957
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: the shit better than anyone.

958
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: Mm hm.

959
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: Like when I was rapping, it didn't sound in the

960
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: way Nelly said it, which makes sense. But to not

961
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 2: get credited and not get publishing is really where the

962
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: line is kind of drawn. Yeah, Like if that's the

963
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: goal of everyone's like, all right, Nellie is the one

964
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 2: that is marketable.

965
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: He delivers it. He delivers this.

966
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: Shit the best too, Like yeah, bet, Like, once Nelly gets.

967
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: Get out, as long as we're getting out, just do

968
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: behind the scenes and exactly it's taking care of and

969
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: we all getting off splits and everything like that, so

970
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: be it. Everything all that other shit is ego shit,

971
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: Like if Nelly's the clear cut star, he's the one

972
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: that's gonna, you know, propel this whole thing and get

973
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: us into these rooms that we ultimately want to be

974
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: in as creators, artist, right as whatever. This so be,

975
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: let's get behind him. But if we're not taken care of,

976
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: if I'm not getting anything for my contributions, this is

977
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: this is a completely fucked up situation.

978
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: Not that we really anyone has Nelly like on their

979
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 2: top ten greatest mcs of All Time list, it's still

980
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: a little heartbreaking knowing the impact Nelly has had on

981
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: hip hop, even newer hip hop. Like, of course, you

982
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: can give Rule a lot of credit for the melodic

983
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: stuff and so on, but that Nelly era kind of

984
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: pushed us even further into the melodic shit that we're

985
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: into now. Like he is a very influential artist. So

986
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: to find out he didn't write most of that, it's

987
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: a little heartbreaking.

988
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: I mean, well, Nelly, Nellie's not a rapper.

989
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: Rapper like that, but he rapped and those melodies fucking

990
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 2: changed hip hop. Like I'm sure he gets he gets

991
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: a lot of credit for that, and to know that

992
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: he just delivered it is Yes, yeah, we can't just

993
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 2: shot on Drake and not shit on Nelly.

994
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of people in the Midwest

995
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: that may have Nelly in the top ten.

996
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: If you want to go just like Impact one of

997
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: the craziest runs in hip hop history, sales like, of

998
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: course Nelly would definitely be in a top fifteen. Conversation.

999
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: To me, Nelly was always like the second two point

1000
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: zero version of like obviously not probably as dope as

1001
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: an MC, but like he was ll all over again.

1002
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: Oh okay, he was like.

1003
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: He was like you know, the he was a rapper,

1004
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: but he became a.

1005
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: Pop star because they both wore bandits.

1006
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: Well well not because they both wore bandits, but it

1007
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: was the style. It was the it was just the

1008
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: style and aesthetic aesthetically, it was some similarities. And Nelly

1009
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: has spoken to that that l was one of his

1010
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: his idols growing up, but Yeah, it's just it was.

1011
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: It was crazy. How I least talk about that though.

1012
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: That was shocking to hit and he ate that he

1013
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: wrote most of that Country Grammar album.

1014
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: And I feel like had this news dropped, Let's say

1015
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: Nelly's run happened in twenty twenty three, where there was

1016
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: like Vlad and interviews like this where people can have

1017
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: a platform to speak about what's going on behind the scenes.

1018
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: This might be.

1019
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: Bigger than the Drake allegations. If it was done in

1020
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: the moment, like during Nelly's run, this would be crazy

1021
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: because it was even more taboo in the you know,

1022
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 2: mid two early two thousands, that you write a rapper

1023
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: not writing his lyrics. Yeah, it's a little different because

1024
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: Drake was not only a pop star, R and B

1025
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: singer like we just you know, gave him like we

1026
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: get it. Nelly is considered a rapper even though he

1027
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: does sing. Yeah, this would have been twice as big

1028
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: to me of allegations than the Drake thing back then

1029
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: if it came out, Yes, this would have been fucking crazy.

1030
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I still think it's big though, because

1031
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: pauls because again it's Nelly. It's one of the biggest

1032
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: albums of all time in hip hop. And again we

1033
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: didn't we didn't know this until Ali said it. Now

1034
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: again we've heard things over the years and the same

1035
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: Ludatics being a whole, you know, conglomerate of artists and

1036
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: writers and helping each other out. But Ali is saying, like, nah,

1037
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: fam I that that those are all my bars. Yeah,

1038
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: that's shocking here, and I do want to hear from that.

1039
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: I think Nelly will. I think he has to address this.

1040
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he can just like let this pass.

1041
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: Like he has to address this, not like Nelly is

1042
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: trying to actively put out but I don't know. Maybe

1043
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 1: he's not trying to actually put out any new albums

1044
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: or like that. But he has to address one of

1045
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: his former closest friends, partners, you know, people that was

1046
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: in the room when he was creating coming out and

1047
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: saying yo, I wrote. Nelly has to respond to that.

1048
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 5: If it's true, don't address it. If it's not true,

1049
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 5: address it and correct.

1050
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: But if it's true, no, that's black though. I think

1051
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: you gotta address it either way. If it's really nice,

1052
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: right yeah, but if it's true or not to address it,

1053
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: you don't address it. You don't not address it. If

1054
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: it's true. What type of shit is that you gotta

1055
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: address it like it is?

1056
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: Why do you want I don't know because I don't

1057
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: address lies. So but she just let lies go but

1058
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: addressed if it's not true. I don't agree with that.

1059
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: If you're not if you're not gonna address it if

1060
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: it is true, don't address it. If it's not true.

1061
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he needs to address it period.

1062
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: If not, I will say I think this is a

1063
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 2: huge deal because it was such an important part of

1064
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: my life. As far as like Vlad interviews go, this

1065
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: is not as viral as I thought it was gonna be.

1066
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: No so like people because.

1067
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: People don't really care. And I swear that's not a

1068
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: shot in Lad. It was an incredible interview. I watched

1069
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: every single one of them. It just didn't go viral

1070
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: the way. And maybe that's just the age difference on it.

1071
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: Age different people really don't they're not Nelly's name is

1072
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: not heavy in the algorithms right now. They're not checking

1073
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: for him. Nobody is. He doesn't have any new music

1074
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: out is.

1075
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 5: Nobody cares. We care, but nobody cares.

1076
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: When I saw that title, I put it on our

1077
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: group chat immediately, and I put my child down.

1078
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: Because that was a very I was a part of

1079
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: your childhood.

1080
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: But I was on YouTube refreshed it.

1081
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 4: You put your child down.

1082
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: Nellie didn't write ninety percent of Country Grand, So this

1083
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: is I thought. You know, sometimes people put h fake

1084
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: like Vlad thumbnails on.

1085
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: Like fake videos to get you to click it.

1086
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: I thought it was one of those at first, and

1087
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: I was like, this is blad tv Lad's not going

1088
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: to put something out that is going to be like

1089
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: completely false, Like there has to be some credibility. So

1090
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: I sat down and was like, oh, this is gonna

1091
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: be the biggest thing ever. A week past, I've heard

1092
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 2: no one talk about it besides my friend.

1093
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well again that's because Nelly nobody really again like

1094
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: the marriagaid, nobody really cares.

1095
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 5: And I'm also I'm not surprised, are you You're really

1096
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 5: like surprised.

1097
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: About that he wrote so much. I'm surprised. I'm shocked.

1098
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: I really thought Nelly was in their penning most of

1099
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: that ship. Also because it's not like it's and again,

1100
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: this is all based on if Ali is in fact

1101
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: telling the truth. So we don't want to just say,

1102
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: you know he's telling the truth of this is allegedly

1103
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: he's this is what he's saying, and if it is true,

1104
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: that's a shock to me that that Nelly didn't write

1105
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: most of that. Yeah, because he delivered the funk out

1106
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: of it, though I tell you that hell yeah, period,

1107
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: he delivered. He delivered the hell of a product. But

1108
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: the fact that this is hip hop and when you

1109
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: don't write there is you know, we got to call

1110
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: you the court for that. Yeah.

1111
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: And even like when Ali was breaking down country grammar

1112
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: and like all the cities on I think it's the

1113
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: second verse, like it's all the people that he had

1114
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 2: people in Savannah.

1115
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: Like that's fucking that's wild.

1116
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: It's crazy versus like personal.

1117
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: But it's just not. But when you started piecing certain

1118
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: things together, like yo, this this hook that started the

1119
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: next song I wanted too, and I'm like, damn.

1120
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: Like grill, he said, the grills concept was is not

1121
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: that that's like some profound concept, right, But at that

1122
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 2: time it was yeah that and people in Texas, please

1123
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: do not kill me. I'm speaking from a mainstream level.

1124
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: Nelly getting attached to that Grills wave helped spread Grills

1125
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: across the entire word. Like, I know Texas was obviously

1126
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: on that ship before, but that grill song, well he

1127
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: paid I think Paul was Yeah, no, no, for sure

1128
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: it was.

1129
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: It was definitely that.

1130
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: But to know that, like that's Ali's idea wrote it

1131
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: like that, that was a moment in hip hop.

1132
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: That was definitely a moment. That was definitely a big moment.

1133
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: And puts like Nelly with the of course he didn't

1134
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: start Air Force ones, but that was a huge record,

1135
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: like Nelly, Yeah, we don't like as an innovator.

1136
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean New Yorkers didn't like that.

1137
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: It was it was a good song. Was like, wasn't

1138
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: anything new.

1139
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,240
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, when that song came out, we was like, Okay,

1140
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: we've been wearing air Forces forever forever, Like what okay,

1141
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: I guess if Midwest wants to wear him now?

1142
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 2: No, to be honest, Nelly kind of owes us, especially

1143
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: that fifty million dollars catalog.

1144
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: The inflation he owes Ali the fourth words an elation.

1145
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: Of uptowns was crazy. After that you could get them

1146
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 2: ships for fifty sixty dollars. They went to like one twenty.

1147
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, that was nuts.

1148
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: But this I don't know this was either way.

1149
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: I'll believe Nelly. I think he will respond on I

1150
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: think this is a perfect time for Nelly to kind

1151
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: of get back in that Nelly got his girl back.

1152
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: Yeah got fifty ms. Yeah, but you got these but you.

1153
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: Might make it right behind the scenes, which I hope

1154
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 2: he does.

1155
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, make it right, man, make it right with the homies,

1156
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: man like, that's that's some nasty shit to have on

1157
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 1: your jacket walking around for the rest of your life,

1158
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: that you did that to the to the homies, man like,

1159
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: they got to make that right. If you contributed the

1160
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: way Alis saying he did, you gotta take him.

1161
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 5: I don't respect to make it right once it's on

1162
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 5: the internet, because you had years and years and years

1163
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 5: to make it right, you know, Ali.

1164
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: Respect that that why are coming through? When that why hit? Ali?

1165
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: Be like, all right, it's all love from a more.

1166
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: Level like it you got caught, so now you have

1167
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: to fake sorry.

1168
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: But but that why you hit though? You're like, all right,

1169
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: love whatever, Yeah, a little ten fifteen, I'll take that.

1170
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: It's all love. What thousand I think just yet?

1171
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: Right, just giving like some form of a settlement to

1172
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: him because I know how messy that would get especially

1173
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: if arling you're publishing and with a publishing deal Nelly

1174
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: to have to rework all of that would be extremely expensive,

1175
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: not just for Nelly but for Ali to get all

1176
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: that publishing back would be fucking crazy. Then you have

1177
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: to prove it, which is really difficult. Like we were

1178
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: taking his word for it, but that doesn't work in court.

1179
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: It's fucked up, man. I just wish, you know, just

1180
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: to do a settlement. Just why is it so hard

1181
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 1: for people to just do right business?

1182
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 5: They're greedy and they're also just not well everybody.

1183
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: Like I think, it takes so much more to do

1184
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: fucked up business. It takes more out of you, Like

1185
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised.

1186
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 5: You'd be surprised. And when you're doing a project or

1187
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,439
Speaker 5: you're doing you're creating something, everybody feels like there their

1188
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 5: contribution is the most important. Yeah, right, So just how

1189
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 5: Drake consider parents say I perform that, so you could

1190
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 5: never perform that song like that, or I made that

1191
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 5: song what it is. Nelly considered there and say you

1192
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 5: could never perform this song like me and make it

1193
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 5: go number one. It didn't go number one because of

1194
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 5: what you wrote. It went number one because of the

1195
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 5: way that I performed it, and Ali can say the opposite.

1196
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 5: So everybody feels like their contribution is what made the project.

1197
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: But in theory, that is the point of splits in publishing,

1198
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 2: Like there's plenty of people that have written for Beyonce

1199
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: that couldn't come anywhere near how she delivered it, but

1200
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: they got their pub on it. Is it fifty percent?

1201
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: No?

1202
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: No, But you know, because even the bigger artists take

1203
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: more pub for the exact point that you're saying, like,

1204
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: when you get to a certain status, splits aren't very

1205
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: even anymore because yeah, it's me, So this is going

1206
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: to make way more money because I'm singing right, So

1207
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: you have a great argument to maybe take more pub

1208
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: than you typically would deserve as a sealless artist. But

1209
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 2: the writers still get their shit like.

1210
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Country Grammar was the first album. Oh that's

1211
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't noble, No, not even that he shopped like that.

1212
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: I think you said better up.

1213
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 2: A bunch of joints that were on Country Grammar were

1214
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 2: recorded in the nineties and he was shopping them in

1215
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: New York with so I forgot the manager's name is

1216
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: from Harlem. Of course, it's somebody from Harlem was behind them,

1217
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: so yeah, he was shopping their records, which is fucking

1218
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: crazy either way.

1219
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: Man, you know, just do right by the homies man

1220
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: like that. It's just so it's I just feel like

1221
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: it's so much easier to just do the right thing.

1222
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 2: Well, the status quo makes it easier to fuck people

1223
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 2: over because it is so common in business. It's it's

1224
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: regular business practice.

1225
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: It's to fuck people over. I hate when people say that.

1226
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: I agree, like, but that unfortunately is part of the business.

1227
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: No, it's not.

1228
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be.

1229
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: No, it's not. No, it's not, it's not part of

1230
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: the Well. The person that says that, it's usually one

1231
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: taking advantage. Yeah, that's why I hate when, like, as

1232
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: soon as somebody said that, I'm looking at them totally different.

1233
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: As part of the business. Owners, that's a part of

1234
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: your business. It doesn't have to own business. Yeah, Like,

1235
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: it does not have to go that way. People don't

1236
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: have to get fucked in business. You don't have to

1237
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: do dirty business. You don't have to do shady shit

1238
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: in business. People do it because they want to do it.

1239
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: They feel like, you know that their ego tells them.

1240
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: I can do this and get away with it. Man.

1241
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: I'll say one of the greatest compliments I got this

1242
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 2: year was from and Shawn.

1243
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: See, they were like, we were just talking.

1244
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: About how easy it is to work with you and

1245
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: how easy the business went. That was the coolest company.

1246
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 2: And by the way, it wasn't hard, Like it's not

1247
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: hard to do business. It's not like we had to

1248
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: go above and beyond to make sure everyone got what

1249
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: they deserve. Everyone just got to We just sat down

1250
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: and was like, all right, cool.

1251
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: When people when people make business difficult because they want

1252
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: to make business difficult, that's just the bottom line. Business

1253
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: can be very easy because I've seen people do easy

1254
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: business with people that they were either afraid of or

1255
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: knew some other shit was coming behind doing fucked up shit, yep.

1256
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: And that's when it gets corny because it's like, oh,

1257
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have did that to this person, but you

1258
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: do it to that person because you feel like it's

1259
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: not so many severe consequences coming behind it, which speaks

1260
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: to a whole another level of corny.

1261
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: But either way, or you could just I mean, the

1262
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 2: best thing to do is adopt an athlete when they're

1263
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 2: a child and take the royalty.

1264
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: Now, that is that's the best strategy that I've seen,

1265
00:53:54,760 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: speaking of being blindsided, blue business god in relationships. Michael

1266
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: Orr who we know was the star player at University

1267
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: of Mississippi, he is this is the character that the

1268
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: movie blind Side is based on. Have you seen the movie?

1269
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's a great movie.

1270
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: Great movie, great actor. Sandra Bullock did a great job.

1271
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: So it's coming out that Michael Orr now is saying

1272
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: that he was never really adopted.

1273
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: Which is the premise of the movie, which is you know,

1274
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: which have made it a heartwarming two beautiful white saviors

1275
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: from save this black child his black kids in so

1276
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: much needs right.

1277
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: Come to find out it was a conservatorship. So with

1278
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: his conservative conservatives are court appointed individuals who are given

1279
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: the ability to manage another person's finances and personal affairs.

1280
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: Which is crazy to like, not adopt someone but still

1281
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: have that which insane.

1282
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: That's crazy, insane. So you don't love me, you just

1283
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,479
Speaker 1: see the future in me making a lot of money.

1284
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: I can go on to be a star player, and

1285
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: you want to have rights and ownership of me and

1286
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: my money.

1287
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 2: Well, there was some flack when this movie came out

1288
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: because obviously Michael Orr isn't the only athlete that's gone

1289
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: through this entire thing. We've seen a lot of other athletes.

1290
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: What's who's ranked above Lebron James, Lenny Cook. Lenny Cook

1291
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: was in something similar, but thank god, was with a

1292
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,479
Speaker 2: family that let him opt out and go do whatever

1293
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: he wanted. But there there is kind of like a market,

1294
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 2: if you will, for lack of a better term, of

1295
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 2: boosters at colleges, fake adopting kids when they're in need

1296
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: when it comes to athletes.

1297
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: So it feels a little a little slavish.

1298
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I try to use the word market, slave.

1299
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: Market, slave market. No, it feels a little slavish, you know.

1300
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: It says we're protecting ourselves because we see financial gain

1301
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: in the future from this kid.

1302
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: Well, in the movie, at least the white safe do

1303
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: take in Michael before he even thinks about football. They

1304
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 2: just encourage him to do it. And their whole thing

1305
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 2: was like, no, we were gonna take care of him regardless,

1306
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: but we put him into school and like he's not

1307
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 2: not going to play football, Like we didn't even know

1308
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 2: if he'd be good or not. So how the fuck

1309
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 2: could we adopt this kid assuming that he's going to

1310
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: go to.

1311
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: Old Miss Well, they saw a kid. He was like

1312
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: a big to movie. He was a big kid. They

1313
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: looked at him the same way they used to do

1314
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: the slaves. It was very strong, like he could work

1315
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: out in the field for hours. And you know that's

1316
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: how they used to do it. They used to say, Okay, yeah,

1317
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: he comes from his bloodline that his mother was a

1318
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: hard workers. He's going to be a hard worker. Same thing.

1319
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: You see a big kid like that kid has some

1320
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: size on him. Let's see if we can kind of

1321
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: give him a nice home and get him into sports

1322
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: and see what he takes to and what he likes,

1323
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: and let's push him in that direction.

1324
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: Now, Michael Hrer wasn't suggesting that they were, you know,

1325
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: not a loving family, but he did come out and

1326
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: say that they were paid two hundred and twenty five

1327
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: thousand dollars each along with twenty five percent royalties to

1328
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 2: the rights of his story that then became the book

1329
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: the movie, and he hasn't been paid from either. And

1330
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you, of course, Hollywood is Hollywood, so you

1331
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: have to stretch the truth a bit. But he had

1332
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: learning disabilities in the movie when he didn't but that's

1333
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: just something I guess he could.

1334
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: Deal with Hollywood shit.

1335
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: But if I'm not getting my royalties.

1336
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: My disability, I was slow ye yeah.

1337
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: Because now you really treat me like a flow.

1338
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, because now y'all playing me like I'm slow

1339
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: and I don't know what's going on, Like, don't put

1340
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: that in the movie if that ain't what it is,

1341
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: and the if you're gonna put it in the movie,

1342
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: at least pay me.

1343
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: And I mean, at the end of the day, as

1344
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: much as it was about that family, it exploited Michael

1345
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: Orr's like blood family. They talked about his mother being

1346
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 2: on drugs, father does that, his brothers, like his whole projects.

1347
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: You are exploiting my life. Absolutely, even if you stretch

1348
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: the truth for Hollywood, it's still mine.

1349
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: So now Michael Orr's real family is saying that this

1350
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: is a shakedown and oh no, the adopted conservatorship family

1351
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: is saying that he was paid from the book in

1352
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: the movie. Okay, he may have been, but was he

1353
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: paid what he was supposed to be paid? Right?

1354
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 5: I think he's trying to get those royalties, and once

1355
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 5: he found out that he was not really adopted, then

1356
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 5: it's like well, this whole entire movie is a lie.

1357
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 5: You've made millions of dollars off of lying about my

1358
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 5: life in God, which would run me some money for that.

1359
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, it's Hollywood, and I don't want

1360
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: to say, okay, but part of Hollywood, this whole being

1361
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: able to sell my rights because I was a kid

1362
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 2: and you are now entitled to them is the real

1363
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: fucking up part of this. I'm they're gonna lie about

1364
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 2: his life. Sorry, that sucks. Yeah, that's just not like

1365
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 2: a court thing, right, This is not a shakedown if

1366
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 2: he wants royalties back to his life story, right. A

1367
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 2: shakedown is when you try to strong arm someone for

1368
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: something you don't deserve.

1369
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: Exactly. This is not a shakedown. You know the give

1370
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: the guys money before he come over there and start

1371
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: tackling all y'all please, that's a big dude. You don't

1372
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: want him to come in the house pissed off, mad

1373
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: and just start knocking it over. Yeah. Pay him is money.

1374
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: It is wild, pa, him is money. Speaking of being

1375
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: blindsided once again, who LEI keV inside.

1376
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,479
Speaker 2: By a football player by another football player?

1377
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: E s TG was he did the boutleg cas shout

1378
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: out the bootleg keV one of our favorite people.

1379
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, front of the show.

1380
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: So Bootleg keV had E. S TG on to talk

1381
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: about his upcoming album. I believe Toro two is the

1382
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: name of it. So he had es TG on there.

1383
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: I fuck with s TG. Love his music, so, but

1384
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: I also know that es TG is not somebody that

1385
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: is uh he's not a very talkative. He doesn't want

1386
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: to be interviewed. He doesn't he doesn't have that energy.

1387
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: He's gonna sit down and come kick it with you

1388
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: and bust it up, like you know. He just wants

1389
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: to promote his music, get out and go do what

1390
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: the fuck he wanted to do. So he was on

1391
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: Boutlet CAV and I saw the clip. The first question

1392
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: keV and now give some context. keV said that, uh,

1393
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: EStG was about two hours late and when he came in,

1394
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: he didn't even speak to nobody. He you know, he

1395
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: just kind of just sat down and just was ready

1396
00:59:54,040 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: to shoot. So so who let keV kind of you know,

1397
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: you know how it is when you can kind of

1398
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: feel somebody's vibe like yo, dude, ain't really you know,

1399
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: it's not the most welcoming, the most warm guy and

1400
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: who let keV did with most like white guys do

1401
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: what It's like, you're trying to break that. He started

1402
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: toling them about porn. Is that what Brian Pumper is?

1403
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: Is that what we do? Yeah, like y'all just throw

1404
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: pouring out there. You know, you'll make dick jokes and

1405
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: it's like yo, all right whatever.

1406
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 2: Well, butlet Kev's show, he does ask random questions. That's

1407
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: actually why I enjoy his show so much. It's not

1408
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 2: the same interview, but he tries to get.

1409
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: To know the person away from just their art.

1410
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: Like when I when I went on there, we talked

1411
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 2: about Phoenix hip hop for the first like forty minutes.

1412
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, shit like that. You gotta just talk about random

1413
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: shit and just see where where it takes you. So

1414
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: EStG wasn't feeling that. And then you know, keV started

1415
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: talking about his football past. H es TG used to

1416
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: play college football, I had a promising career. I believe

1417
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: he even went to the combine. I think, yeah, he

1418
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: didn't like that. So you know, keV was just trying

1419
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: to find ways to feel feel EStG out and and

1420
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: see where the conversation would go. And you know, EStG say,

1421
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: what does that have to do with my album.

1422
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 4: You know.

1423
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: And and and keV says some moodyity is like, well,

1424
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm a big football fan, and I just think it's

1425
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: dope that you actually were really good in football at

1426
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 1: one point. Right now you're doing your thing and rap.

1427
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a great story. And es TG wasn't

1428
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: feeling that he got up walked out.

1429
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: It's interesting because this is kind of like the Reason

1430
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 2: Thing to some degree, like an unfortunate situation where people

1431
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: could add a cool conversation turned into probably better promo

1432
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 2: than what that regular interview would a pology.

1433
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: This is another moment I believe. I hope people don't

1434
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: chase these because this was real, The Reason thing was real.

1435
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: Don't even hope people gonna chase these. This is the

1436
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: ship that people do. Now everybody's gonna get up and

1437
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: walk out each other. Yeah, I might get up and

1438
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: walk out of this ship. Min I don't know, just

1439
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: do it. But yeah, so so E s CG was

1440
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: pissed and prove to stop right Uh And now I

1441
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: like I, like keV said, keV was like, you know,

1442
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: for for better or worse, they made for a moment

1443
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: for content.

1444
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 2: I see both sides here. keV did put out that

1445
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 2: I believe allegedly his team gave a brief before that

1446
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: he was really only interested in talking about his music.

1447
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: So if that was a conversation that was had prior

1448
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: to with his team, then if keV is taking the interview,

1449
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 2: he should respect that or just not take the interview

1450
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: because it's like I don't yeah, but it's hard.

1451
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: It's hard to sit down and just grill somebody about

1452
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: their upcoming album, Like how many reams youre going to

1453
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: ask a rapper Yosa? What was your motivation?

1454
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 2: What was your tell me about the producers? I agree

1455
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 2: with you, That's why I see both sides, Whereas what

1456
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: could be more beneficial to the artist is people getting

1457
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 2: to know them because, like the music, interviews rarely promote

1458
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: you more. It's great for your core fan base to

1459
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: know certain stuff about the music, but part of a

1460
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: press run for the moments to get new fans get exposure.

1461
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: Hopefully people that wouldn't typically check for your album go

1462
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 2: check it out. And I think the best way to

1463
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: do that is for people to see your personality not

1464
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 2: just music stuff. I think that's where a lot of

1465
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: artists do fail in press runs is they think they

1466
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 2: have to come in and act like fucking prints and

1467
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: just be like put the sunglasses on and be like,

1468
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 2: I just this song came to me in a dream,

1469
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: and that's We're in a different content space now that

1470
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: maybe work back in the day when you rarely saw

1471
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 2: interviews with artists like that, like you'd have to wait

1472
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: a year for their MTV TRL shit, or you'd have

1473
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: to wait for them to go talk to Angie. Like

1474
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: we are bombarded with artist interviews every fucking day. You

1475
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 2: have to make yourself more interesting. So I feel GEO

1476
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 2: on this, Like I told you just want to talk

1477
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 2: about the music, but I don't think that's really benefiting you.

1478
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, there should be music

1479
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 2: stuff there. But annie als have to remember not everyone

1480
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: kind of has their own outlets they go out to.

1481
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: So if you've talked about your NFL career, could have

1482
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: been on a platform that there's a large fan base

1483
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: hasn't seen yet. Yeah, I watched boutleg keV, so that's

1484
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: a really it. I'm gonna listen to his music differently now, like,

1485
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: oh shit, you played linebacker, Well, I want to look

1486
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: up highlights, like everything about you becomes a little bit

1487
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: more interesting.

1488
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: Well, not only that, when you go on these different platforms,

1489
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: it's different audiences. Yeah, right, there's some of these platforms

1490
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 1: share audiences. But I'm sure a lot of people that

1491
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: watch boutleg keV never heard of EStG, never heard his music.

1492
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: You going here, you have a great interview, great episode.

1493
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: Now people from this platform know who you are, Like, Oh,

1494
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: I like this dude, let me check him out. I

1495
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: think people still check him out after this because he

1496
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: walked out and it's kind of like, oh the fuck

1497
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: is this dude? Like, yeah, walked out on CAVS interview

1498
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: like that, Like that's fucked up. But I mean, you

1499
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: know again, I understand. You know, EStG may be on

1500
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: a crazy press one right now. You know how that

1501
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 1: shit is rory. You're tired. You did about five six

1502
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: interviews already.

1503
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: It's annoying to have to repeat the same shit over

1504
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 2: an hour, but you have to keep in your mind. Unfortunately,

1505
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 2: this comes with the gig and it comes with Restaurants are.

1506
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: Just part of it. It's a part of it, and

1507
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: it's a part of it that most artists really don't

1508
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: like to do, especially if you're not the most social

1509
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: person like you don't really want to sit down and

1510
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: talk all day, but you know that's what it is

1511
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: with you're talking about being in the business of selling music.

1512
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: You have to sell who you are as a person

1513
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: a personality. You have to sell who you are as

1514
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: an artist. You have to get people to try to

1515
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: buy into your brand, find your brand. This is why

1516
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: you're going different platforms to expand your brand. But I mean,

1517
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: I like Kev's approach to it. He said, you know,

1518
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: for better or words, we made some content out of it.

1519
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 8: Now.

1520
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: Estg's response was very different from Kev's response. I mean,

1521
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: we could just go with the last line. Well no,

1522
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: he said, please don't play with me because I played crazy.

1523
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 2: I didn't like that though.

1524
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean, but if you're being honest, if that's who

1525
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,479
Speaker 1: you are, He's like, listen, don't play with me because

1526
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: I don't play. Like if I start playing, it's gonna

1527
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: go a different way. I mean, nobody. I think it's

1528
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's I think it's a

1529
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: little I think he went at keV a little to aggressive.

1530
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: Cadd it like Kevi did warrant that type of energy.

1531
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: But I think I think I think What it more

1532
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: so is is that's just a message to like anybody

1533
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: else moving forward if I go on your platform, like,

1534
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: don't play these viral games with me because I play

1535
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: a different way.

1536
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 5: But he wasn't playing a viral game.

1537
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: He was trying he was, which is what he said.

1538
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: He said. He said the clip was up two hours

1539
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: after he left, so what that's that's the.

1540
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 2: Game happened, Which you can't also say that you weren't

1541
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: chasing a viral moment, like he didn't do that on purpose,

1542
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: but he was not going to post that clip. He

1543
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 2: knew that's what I'm going to leave that that was

1544
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: going to be a viral aouaturally from both of them

1545
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 2: at the end of the day.

1546
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: But that's what I have said, for better or worse,

1547
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: we got a moment.

1548
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 5: And I feel like it's up to your team for

1549
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 5: them to know, Okay, like you need to research these

1550
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 5: platforms that you're going on, like full truanspiency. We've had

1551
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 5: artists that turned down our platform because they don't have

1552
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 5: a fucking personality, So they don't want to come on

1553
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 5: here and we try to pull a personality out of them.

1554
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 5: They know that they wouldn't be good for that. They

1555
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 5: want to go on there and talk about their music.

1556
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: What I'm still salty about it? Talk about that, I'm

1557
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,959
Speaker 1: salty he did what he did. I know, I ain't

1558
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: like that because I really liked him as a person.

1559
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah, what's kind of nuts. But we'll say

1560
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 2: that for Patriot that on Patrio.

1561
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they know that they won't shine next to

1562
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 5: us because they have no personality. And we have a

1563
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 5: podcast where we don't just interview. We want you to

1564
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 5: show your personality. I feel like if you're on my team,

1565
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 5: if you're on my team, it's your job to know

1566
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 5: what platforms you should't. Shouldn't put me on Bootleg keV.

1567
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 5: If you do any research on his platform, you should

1568
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 5: know that he's not just gonna let you get out

1569
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 5: there and just talk about music. So how are you

1570
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 5: mad at him for holding his platform down the way

1571
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 5: that he has always held his platform out and doing

1572
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 5: his job the way he's always Well, he probably went.

1573
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: Up there again, and Rory knows. This is what happens.

1574
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes you send these artists to these these podcasts and

1575
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: they might ask their management like yo, we're just talking

1576
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: about the album and lsay yeah, like it's just keV

1577
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: like hip hophead, like you're gonna get into the album,

1578
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: you know that they're kind of say things to kind

1579
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: of like just get you to just get you to

1580
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: do it. And then you go there and he starts

1581
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: bringing Brian Pumping aliens and shit, he likes, I'm here

1582
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: to talk about my album rot like I'm not here

1583
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: to talk about Brian Pumper.

1584
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: Well, like that I should have on the booking agents

1585
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 2: when the little baby thing happened. I think I'm gonna

1586
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 2: shoot on the new wave of PR people now because

1587
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 2: they think their job when they have a client is

1588
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: to get them on as many platforms as possible, which

1589
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 2: in theory sounds great, right, But if you don't know

1590
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: your client and where they'll shine the best, you're not

1591
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: a good PR person. If your client does not talk,

1592
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 2: don't book them sixty fucking platforms to go talk, because

1593
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: they're going to start looking crazy and people are gonna

1594
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: dislike them. They're going to come across even if they're

1595
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: not a bad person, they're going to come across rude

1596
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: or because artists be in their head they're quiet.

1597
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, you don't know what artists are going through.

1598
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: They're human just like everybody else. For sure, CG might

1599
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: have had a fucking terrible night, terrible day, terrible week.

1600
01:08:58,280 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: You don't know.

1601
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 2: Pr people just need to know their artists, Like I

1602
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: feel like they do the plug and play with every

1603
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 2: single client. Let's try to get them on every single

1604
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 2: platform no matter who the artist is, instead of knowing

1605
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: their client and going breakfast club of work. But this

1606
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 2: won't work. Oh, maybe we should focus just on the

1607
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 2: podcast circuit because that's where more the core fan base

1608
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 2: shit is. Like, it's the same shit we were talking

1609
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 2: about with booking agents not really knowing their clients right

1610
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 2: and just being able to get a gig doesn't mean it's.

1611
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: The right decision, right.

1612
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, that falls on the team as well well.

1613
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 1: Shout out the bootleg keV. Shout out to EStG. Album

1614
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: is dropping, I think this weekend.

1615
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't play crazy with Let's let you.

1616
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: Let him do what he do, man, just leave him alone,

1617
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 1: but he'll be eyes. So shout out to both of

1618
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: those gentlemen, and I'm excited for the album. Yeah, now

1619
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: fuck with s TG man, I fuck with him for

1620
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: two Doug. I don't know what his legal situation is

1621
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 1: how much time he has left in his sentence or

1622
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: if he got sentence yet. I don't know, but those

1623
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: are two of the dudes that I are really fuck

1624
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: with for sure. Do we have voicemails?

1625
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 4: Let's start with this first one about an overreactive father.

1626
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 8: Everyone, I'm calling from London and I need your advice,

1627
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 8: especially Rory's a new dad. Basically, my father comes from

1628
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 8: really humble beginnings and thank God, over time was able

1629
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 8: to create a company that's done really well. And what

1630
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 8: that means is my siblings and I probably will never

1631
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 8: have to worry about money norble our children. It's pretty cool,

1632
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 8: and I'm extremely extremely grateful to have been born into

1633
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 8: this life and all the privileges affords me. But unfortunately

1634
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 8: that comes with a father that's a rational cruel and

1635
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 8: weaponizes money any chance he gets.

1636
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll give a quick example.

1637
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 8: I have my own job, I read, my own place

1638
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 8: here in London, and my dad insisted on buy me

1639
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 8: a house because he was worried about my security. And

1640
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 8: again extremely grateful for that. And then one day a

1641
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 8: few months later, I'm working at my job and he

1642
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 8: calls me and I couldn't pick up because I was

1643
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 8: doing a really intense deal, and I couldn't pick up

1644
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 8: the whole day. And I get back from at two

1645
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 8: am when I'd finished work and all the.

1646
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 4: Locks to my house had changed whoa, and he.

1647
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 8: Had warned the concente not to let me in because

1648
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 8: I didn't pick up one phone call. And he reacts

1649
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 8: this extremely to everything. So I don't know, like, do

1650
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 8: I just stick with it for my future children? Do

1651
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 8: I walk away?

1652
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 4: Okay? Well that was extreme.

1653
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: Well let me as somebody whose dad was in and

1654
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 1: out there, Like, let me tell you that ain't so

1655
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: bad a few days, just concierge, it's okay. Just you

1656
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: locked out for a couple of hours, It's okay, Yeah,

1657
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: that's nothing. It's better than not knowing where your next

1658
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: meal is gonna come from.

1659
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 2: Well that I mean, I think that kind of goes

1660
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: to the nepotism conversations we've had before. If the goal

1661
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 2: is to make sure your kids are all right financially,

1662
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 2: you don't have to struggle with the way do you struggle,

1663
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 2: et cetera. But then that's the catch twenty two of

1664
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: like are they going to be hard workers where they

1665
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 2: get fulfillment if I just give them everything and you

1666
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 2: do have to teach your kids that grow up in

1667
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: a very privileged situation real life shit, or you're doing

1668
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: them a disservice. So I'm not saying I feel her, pops,

1669
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 2: but I do understand it to some degree, Like you

1670
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 2: didn't have to deal with any real life shit, and

1671
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: I'm doing you a disservice when you have to go

1672
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 2: out to the real world. So there needs to be

1673
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: some tough love.

1674
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 1: Within nepotism understanding, but changing.

1675
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 2: I'm not saying kick your kid out.

1676
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: While I was at work. That's no, that's that's that's wild.

1677
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,520
Speaker 1: That's an extreme level I agree control.

1678
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 2: I don't think that, but there needs to be some

1679
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: teaching involved in that of like, you know, I could

1680
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: just take everything away and you'd have to like fend

1681
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 2: for yourself. You know, that's how people actually live in

1682
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: the real world. There needs to be Again, I'm not

1683
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: saying change the fucking locks because you adn't answer her

1684
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 2: phone call.

1685
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 1: No, but definitely I understand what you're saying about that,

1686
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: But I think that there's an extreme level of control here, absolutely,

1687
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: And I think that the only way that your dad

1688
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: is going to ever respect you is for you to

1689
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: have something of your own going on, which is what

1690
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: it sounds like she's doing. She got a job, she said,

1691
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: she rents her own place. How did he change the

1692
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: locks on your place?

1693
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 5: Because I think she said he bought her like a

1694
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 5: flat or something like he bought her something and he

1695
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 5: was able to.

1696
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 1: Author she said, Okay, yeah, that's just an extreme case

1697
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: of wanting to control, you know, one access to you

1698
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: twenty five hours. It sounds like he has he's not

1699
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: letting his baby leave the nest the nest yet. Yeah,

1700
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, like she has a job, she's a

1701
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: grown woman, like because she doesn't answer your call while

1702
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,440
Speaker 1: she's at work, like she's at work. Yeah, so yeah,

1703
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: that's a that's a strange situation to be in. But

1704
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: I do think that, you know, have the conversation with

1705
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: your dad, let him know, you know, you're your own woman,

1706
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: you're grown woman, You have your own life going on.

1707
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: Appreciate everything that he's done for you in the life

1708
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: that he's created for you. But you do want to

1709
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 1: become your own person. You do need to, you know,

1710
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 1: find your own way, find what it is that you're

1711
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: passionate about that you want to do with your life.

1712
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: He's gonna always be your father, that never changes.

1713
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: So I mean, he's fucking crazy, But I'm just trying

1714
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: to make sense of where the crazy actually comes from.

1715
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: And I think it comes from that place of like,

1716
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: I need you to also be able to handle your

1717
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: own rory.

1718
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 5: I think you're coming from that place because you're a

1719
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 5: good person your dad. I don't think her dad is

1720
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 5: coming from that place also as a person who's been

1721
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 5: not to that extreme, but who's been in her situation.

1722
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 5: There was a point in my life where I wasn't

1723
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 5: working and I was just running around being a well

1724
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 5: off kid using my father's money. And I remember me

1725
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 5: and him got into an argument one time where I

1726
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 5: was just I wasn't being disrespectful. I just was voicing

1727
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 5: my own opinions and I'm a very opinionated person and.

1728
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: So is he.

1729
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 5: And he looked at me and said, every single dollar

1730
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 5: in your bank account is mine, and if I decided

1731
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,679
Speaker 5: to take it from you, you would have nothing, and

1732
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 5: that it's a it's a it's a it's very belittling

1733
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 5: and it hurts a lot. So I understand where she's

1734
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 5: coming from. Where somebody feels that they can control you

1735
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 5: or control what you do or you can have no

1736
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 5: say so because they gave you money. I'm super rebellious,

1737
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 5: so I sit every single dollar back like okay, we

1738
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 5: can do this because I'm gonna say what the fuck?

1739
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: I want to say?

1740
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 4: So now what?

1741
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 5: But with you? I think you do?

1742
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: And then next week get phone bills due and you

1743
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: was like taddy.

1744
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm super self destructive. I'll go poor and hungry

1745
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 5: for my pride. I don't give fuck.

1746
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: I used to run away from home as yeah, I'm poor.

1747
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 5: I will be poor and eating trash before allowed somebody

1748
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 5: to disrespect me.

1749
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: Ran two blocks to the park.

1750
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 2: How far down for road doing.

1751
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 5: My advice from her, My advice for for you, sweetheart,

1752
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 5: is to, like mam said, make sure you have some

1753
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 5: shit of your own that he can't take from you.

1754
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 5: And if he's gonna do stuff like that once, best

1755
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 5: believe he'll do it again. So just always be prepared. Now,

1756
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say don't take the money. I'll never

1757
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 5: tell you that, but be prepared and make sure have

1758
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 5: a conversation with him or make sure that he respects you.

1759
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,839
Speaker 5: And if he can't respect you, then that might affect you. Guys' relationship.

1760
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm willing the best. She doesn't have a boyfriend, why well,

1761
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: why she can't even not answer the phone at work?

1762
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: You think she can have a boyfriend, I don't.

1763
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: I sound like her father want to be her boyfriend.

1764
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: Thanks big yet, I mean that's a whole other thing. Yeah,

1765
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: just get your own flow, get your own motion, man,

1766
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: and just tell Dad he'll always be dad, You'll always

1767
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: love him, but you got to have your own legs.

1768
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 5: Or play him like a fiddle. You could also play

1769
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 5: him like a fiddle, not saying allegedly that I've done that,

1770
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 5: but you can. Okay, this is what you want. You

1771
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 5: need me to to pepper you up? Daddy, daddy, Dad?

1772
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 4: How many fiddle?

1773
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 5: Daddy, Daddy, daddy daddy. I need you, I need you,

1774
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 5: I need you. Play like a fiddle if you want to,

1775
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 5: If you if you want the money that bad, roll

1776
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 5: your eyes behind his back and do what you gotta

1777
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 5: do to keep that money, because hold on as a

1778
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 5: person who works.

1779
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: A job, that's crazy crazy as a person.

1780
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 5: As a person a job. As a person who works

1781
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 5: a job, you gonna have to bite your tongue a

1782
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 5: lot more on your.

1783
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: Job than you will with your father.

1784
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 5: So do you want to go have to have a

1785
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 5: job where you have to bite your tongue for your

1786
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 5: living or do you want to have to bite your

1787
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 5: tongue to your father for a living?

1788
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 2: Are you saying these are little conditions? What are you

1789
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: trying to say about?

1790
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1791
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 1: What the fun? White?

1792
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 5: The guy's quiet. They're in a little conversation. I'm just saying,

1793
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 5: I'm kidding. I'm kidding everything.

1794
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 1: But they are going to run with that. Yeah, there're

1795
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 1: gonna be ten thing pieces on that one.

1796
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 2: I miss you said, yeah, right, just trying to make

1797
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 2: you the problem.

1798
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 5: See how I agree?

1799
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: When we get the next voicemail, Yeah, this.

1800
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 4: Is the last voicemail. I think you guys would have

1801
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 4: fun with this one. Right.

1802
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 3: No, my course is, oh God, would you let another

1803
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 3: man give you are rish pal?

1804
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you where you can and can't go?

1805
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: Is this damn dash? Tell me what you can and

1806
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: can't do? Then you're gonna be your wife and whoa

1807
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: what the situation?

1808
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 4: Uh okay, I don't know where that last.

1809
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 1: Part came from, the next town, but yeah, he said,

1810
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: like niggas gotta tell him what to do. He he

1811
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 1: locked up. He said, like niggash was telling him what

1812
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: to do.

1813
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 4: He said this from he sent this from the cell.

1814
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what it sound like.

1815
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 2: I will say I'm on his side in twenty twenty three, Yeah,

1816
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 2: lasting the man directions is crazy.

1817
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:22,480
Speaker 4: We got ways.

1818
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: Just fucking use your phone. I don't ask anybody for

1819
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: Google Maps. We got ways. Yeah, like no, I'm not

1820
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 1: asking him in for directions. But going from like, Yo,

1821
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: how do I get to canal to he's fucking my wife? Is?

1822
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: It's crazy, craziest jump.

1823
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 2: I've ever heard my life.

1824
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: That gentleman is definitely like.

1825
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 5: All you gotta say is how he gonna lead you?

1826
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 5: That nigga don't even know where he's going? Boom, fucking

1827
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 5: your wife boom.

1828
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 1: I just want you to with yo, stop doing this. Man,

1829
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: you didn't see the video. Did you see the video

1830
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: she was shooting earlier? No? Oh yeah, we'll give her

1831
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: a lot of shit for that one. Oh what did

1832
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: I miss? I'll tell you.

1833
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a paper saving patre everything we're saving subscribe Now,

1834
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 2: that was funny. This is why Julian can't like just

1835
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 2: leave and not play the voicemails for us at a time. Yeah,

1836
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 2: why did why did he pick that voicemail.

1837
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, Julian, Julie. Yeah, he had to shoot today,

1838
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 4: you know, all right, he's gonna get shot today.

1839
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:21,839
Speaker 2: Damn free this gentleman until it's backwards out. Definitely read him,

1840
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 2: definitely from a burner phone and rikers right now. I

1841
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 2: hope men aren't giving you directions in there.

1842
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: I hope not, man. But if they are giving you direction,

1843
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: direct them to our website New Rory and Mall. That's right,

1844
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: we have merch still available Patreon subscribe. Yeah, and we're

1845
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: all headed on vacation now.

1846
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 2: We're still putting episodes out, so you're not gonna miss anything,

1847
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 2: but we will be gone next week. We'll be gone

1848
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: banks some episode maybe. Remember I will be in the

1849
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 2: fucking Bahamas getting a well deserved vacation.

1850
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: Getting a tan.

1851
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get burned.

1852
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: How long can you stay in the sun, like, because

1853
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 1: I know you keep a time with your time? How

1854
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:58,759
Speaker 1: close to shade?

1855
01:19:59,400 --> 01:19:59,879
Speaker 4: Uh?

1856
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 1: A couple of feet away?

1857
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1858
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I could do like ten fifteen.

1859
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: Rotate every ten minutes.

1860
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go back into Yeah. In the summertime

1861
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 2: in New York, I walked from tree to tree, Okay,

1862
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 2: like if I'm.

1863
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: On the sidewalk, I'm gonna find with I thought you

1864
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: just loved nature. I didn't realize that because you were

1865
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: like trying to protect yourself on the rays. Oh okay,

1866
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: you so it's not nature, It's just okay.

1867
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: The sun is my biggest op God master.

1868
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 5: Me an allergic to the earth. That's crazy.

1869
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: I keep telling you they don't belong here. Don't you

1870
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 1: fucking invented us? I'm sorry, Huh, you can't hate fever me.

1871
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 1: Hate fever is hate.

1872
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 4: You're allergic to pollen?

1873
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's like.

1874
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,839
Speaker 5: An you you a pansy too for me an allergic.

1875
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:38,600
Speaker 4: To the earth. I didn't say that.

1876
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1877
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 4: I didn't say the earth.

1878
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: I can go outside in the sun and stand there

1879
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 1: for it. Okay, So if you cut some grass, I'm

1880
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: fucked up that start. Yeah, but cutting grass and you're

1881
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: trying to kill me at that.

1882
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: First of all, the sun is a burning fucking star.

1883
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 2: You can't even deal with Darry like, wow, CAW's kick

1884
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 2: your ass.

1885
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah they do, but none of the sun is the

1886
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: sun is. You can't deal with Darry. I better you

1887
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 1: just like going to take a ship and your stomach

1888
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 1: hurt like that. I don't see that shit.

1889
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's quiet time for me.

1890
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I can get it. Well, yeah, once I get it,

1891
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: but once you fuck my stomach up. Let me go

1892
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: set the.

1893
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: Bathroom just chugging milk just so I get away.

1894
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: No matter how I said, the toilet, my legs go. No, here,

1895
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 1: you're like overall, I'm not hear you. I took one

1896
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: ship here and now you keep looking. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, no,

1897
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when I'm home. That's wild, Like I

1898
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: don't know what it is.

1899
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 4: It's like I be.

1900
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: I used to think it was because my I'd be

1901
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: on my phone and my my my knees would be

1902
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: like in my thigh.

1903
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 4: How long you be on that toilet for it's a

1904
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 4: real question.

1905
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, you be there for too long?

1906
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: For too long, It'll be like ten fifteen minutes. No, bro,

1907
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: you don't got.

1908
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 4: That's too long.

1909
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 5: You gotta twist your legs, I mean twist your ankles

1910
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 5: and a counterclockwise motion.

1911
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm never she's telling me to do.

1912
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 2: She's telling to kick your legs on the ball, twist them.

1913
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: Look like in the Wizard of Oz when the house

1914
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: felling the witch remember that.

1915
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's funny.

1916
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,959
Speaker 5: You know, I'm circulate the blood of your legs.

1917
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: To get no place like up the place like bingham

1918
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 1: There's no place like Binghamton. You hate that you're from upstate?

1919
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: Why you hate from upstate? I know you people some

1920
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 1: queen stuff.

1921
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 5: I never in my life toningboy House from black ass queens.

1922
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: I'm from St. Wow. I just picked up upstate. What

1923
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: queens did to you? He was from queens? He never

1924
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: he called you.

1925
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 5: I never he Imagine a queen's nigga, and he was,

1926
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 5: But imagine a queen's They want.

1927
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: Him to say, Yeah, they're right there, right there.

1928
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, we share London, Yeah, pretty much.

1929
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: Well, we're on vacation. I'm so glad. I'm not gonna

1930
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: see y'all faces. I'm gonna miss Yo me though, I'm

1931
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 1: yeah miss any of y'all. Wonder what he's gonna do

1932
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 1: on her vacation. Oh you know what yom' gonna do?

1933
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:48,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, gotta pick pictures.

1934
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, take pictures. She's gonna be somewhere taking some

1935
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: photos and you going away. No, you're gonna be here,

1936
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: going away from y'all.

1937
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna be away from you all.

1938
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: Right, Well, whatever, y'all do, have fun, be blessed, be safe.

1939
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: We'll be back soon. Yeah, take a lot of pictures

1940
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: and videos, man, so we could laugh at each other

1941
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 1: when we get back.

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