1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Every day. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: Up the Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Finish for y'all. 4 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 3: Done morning. 5 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: Everybody is the j n V. 6 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 4: Just hilarious. Charlamagne, he gud we are the Breakfast Club. 7 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 4: Law La Rosa is here as well, and we got 8 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 4: a special guest in the. 9 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 3: Building, a motherfucking icon. 10 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: I thought he was up here, this is his first time. 11 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what I seen you on the road, 12 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 5: I know, but I thought you've been up here. 13 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Hey man, hey, thank y'all for having me. 14 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 6: Good morning. 15 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: It's about time. 16 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: And everybody, we don't say good morning enough to our 17 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: fellow brothers and sisters. 18 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: That's right. 19 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 5: I was a victim of that until I started to 20 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 5: change my mindset. Sometimes I would come down, get in 21 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 5: the car going, you know, on the road, I didn't 22 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 5: say good morning. 23 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: And once I started to change my mindset. 24 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 5: I realized that's a good way to start your day 25 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 5: in a gesture to someone whoever you're riding with, you know, 26 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 5: the driver, whoever. 27 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: That feeling, and then that's how they're feeling. 28 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 29 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes that's also the case. Sometimes just say how 30 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 5: is your day going? 31 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 7: Yea? 32 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 5: You know, I found myself sometimes I'm a I'm a 33 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 5: I'm really in tune to my spiritual side. 34 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: I've been for a long time. 35 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 5: Sometimes I might just be I remember being in the 36 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 5: club and I might walk by a random person and 37 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 5: I can feel that energy and I'd be like, let 38 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 5: me just give you a hug, And sometimes that just 39 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 5: changes somebody's life absolutely. 40 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: What about that? 41 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 6: What about when you were the person that might have 42 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 6: been creating energy though, Like if you felt like some 43 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 6: aggressive angriness for this person, but it was your fault 44 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 6: because well. 45 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell you. 46 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 5: One time I was in South Carolina a and a 47 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 5: Hole in the Wall club way back in the day, 48 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 5: and it was supposed to be a night where cash 49 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 5: money was supposed to be there, and they called me 50 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 5: because cash money couldn't come. So these folks in South 51 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 5: Carolina was mad than a motherfucker. 52 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: It was not cash money. 53 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 5: Little johnn Eastside boys show up and so I understand 54 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 5: it's a hostile situation, but I said, I looked out 55 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 5: on that crowd and I said, the biggest dude in 56 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 5: this crowd, I'm about to make him my best friend. 57 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 5: And I made him my best friend during the show, 58 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: like playing to him, giving him drinks and hyping them up, 59 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 5: and then he turned like it turned the whole crowd around, 60 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 5: and then they were fans of us after that. But 61 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 5: it was it was a way you can always change 62 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 5: the energy of a situation if you approach with a 63 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 5: calm manner. That's why good security don't go and try 64 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 5: to fight somebody. 65 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: They try to defuse the situation. That's the first rule 66 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: is diffuse it not be the aggressior. 67 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: Lot, John, I want to go back. So this is 68 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: your first time. 69 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: Real quick, what is a little John morning routine? 70 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: Like I knew you were going to ask me that morning, 71 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 5: So this morning I woke up, had a little water 72 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 5: because you know, I do my I do this Korean 73 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 5: facial stuff, so I do skin. 74 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: You know, my skin is very important to my skin. Look, ladies, 75 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: one rule for that. 76 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 5: Is positivity, positive energy, positive thoughts, because if you're a 77 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 5: negative person in all this negativity, it's gonna wear the flesh. 78 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 5: So get up in the morning and do my skincare routine, 79 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 5: burust my teeth, all that good stuff. And then since 80 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 5: I'm on the road, a nice healthy breakfast for me 81 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 5: was two hard boiled eggs, some yogurt, some berries, and 82 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 5: the grapefruit. Wow, that's simple, easy and start with a 83 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 5: positive mindset. It's gonna be a great day. I'm always 84 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 5: in my mind saying affirmations for the day, even before 85 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 5: I go to bed, in my dreams, Like last night, 86 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 5: I was like, it's gonna be a great interview. This 87 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 5: is I look at this as one of the biggest 88 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 5: interviews I've ever done in my life because it's like, 89 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: it's a fifty minutes, forty five minutes, fifty minutes a 90 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 5: long interview. 91 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: It's a lot to talk about. Charlote man. You you 92 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: see me grow from. I think we one time. 93 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 5: We taught you were like you came to the radio 94 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 5: station and in South Carolina. 95 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: What time that was early on? He wasn't even on 96 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: air yet, right were. 97 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 6: I think it was a phone er you called in. 98 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 6: You had just put out I think you had just 99 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 6: put out be a beer. 100 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: Wow. So that's twenty years ago. 101 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 102 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 6: So we were talking about you having the Confederate flag 103 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 6: in the in the video and I don't. 104 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Care about that. So that's what you know. 105 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 5: You've seen the growth, and it's I think it's important 106 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 5: because yeah, you've seen the growth. You've seen it from 107 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 5: a different angle. You've seen it from a different angle. 108 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 5: You've seen it from a different angle, and you know, 109 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 5: you guys moved the needle of culture and you had 110 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 5: everybody and their grandmama on this show. So I think 111 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 5: it's one of the most important and you know, best 112 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 5: interviews I think I'm going to have because because of 113 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 5: all of that. 114 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: Let's claim it. 115 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: Let's claim it. I want to go back. 116 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: I want to start from the beginning of these are 117 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: the interviews I love because for some reason, I thought 118 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 4: you've been up here before. So I want to start 119 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: when you first got into the music industry, right, let's 120 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: start with you started working with your main Dupris yep, 121 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: ninety three. 122 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: Let's start from there. 123 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: So how did you hook up a Jamaine dupri and 124 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 4: what did you do for Jamaine Duprix. 125 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 5: So I used to be in Atlanta in the nineties. 126 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 5: I was like the hottest DJ in the city. 127 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: I was the demand. 128 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 5: I did all the parties and I would see Jermaine 129 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 5: all the time at the clubs. And then I did 130 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 5: this one club called the Phoenix night Club, which was 131 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 5: the hottest nightclub in Atlanta at the time. 132 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: We brought Biggie, We brought Biggie. 133 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 5: I got Biggie and Craig Mac together when they did 134 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 5: the Big Mac Tour, so I got them. That's an 135 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 5: interesting story because we got we we. 136 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: I worked on the radio station, but I wasn't the PD. 137 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 5: And you know how back then you had to go 138 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 5: through the PD because you wanted to get the spins 139 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 5: for your artists. So Diddy, you know, he let us 140 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 5: get Biggie and Craig because he thought I was like 141 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 5: the PD. 142 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: And he get there and the club. 143 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 5: Is slammed like a million people and he's like, Yo, 144 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 5: what the heck, Yo, we need some more money because 145 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 5: this thing is packed. And then he found out that 146 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 5: I wasn't the PD, and so he was extra pist. 147 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: And then he even tried to get the rep that 148 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 5: worked for BMG at the time fired because she got 149 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 5: because we got Craig and Biggie for free. 150 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: Wow. 151 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 6: So yeah, that was normal back then when artists are 152 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 6: on promo, tall. 153 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, but you had you wanted to go through 154 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: the station so you can make sure. 155 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 5: You get to spend get your look. And we wasn't that, 156 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 5: but we were high promoters. So I was doing all 157 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 5: the hot parties and I would just see Jamaine all 158 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: the time. But like, even if I wasn't DJing, I 159 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 5: was everywhere, Like I had a thing where I was 160 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 5: I wanted to be from. 161 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: I called it from Bankhead to Buckhead. That was from the. 162 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 5: Boogie spots to the the most hood you can get 163 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 5: in Atlanta. So I was literally everywhere. And Jermaine came 164 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 5: to me. Well, for one thing, people don't really know, 165 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 5: Dallas Austin's brother came to me. 166 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: First, so his name was Claude Austin. He passed away, but. 167 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 5: Claude Austin came to me first and wanted me to 168 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 5: work for Rowley. But then Jamaine came to me around 169 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 5: the same time, and Claude ended up passing and so 170 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 5: and Jamaine came because I was just everywhere, and he 171 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 5: was like, I need you, someone like you to represent, 172 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 5: you know, my label, because you everywhere. 173 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: So he hired me. 174 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety three, I started working at Social Death 175 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 5: and I was hired to do A and R and 176 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 5: street promotions because I was everywhere, right, so he wanted 177 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 5: he wanted someone that had respecting the city, that could 178 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 5: go anywhere, and someone like me that I was always out, 179 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 5: so that was represent Social Death from Bankhead, Like I 180 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 5: said to Buckhead, and. 181 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: What artist did you have being a and off for 182 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: Social Death at that time. 183 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 5: I had I put together all of the Social Death 184 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: based all stars and at night I think. 185 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. And that changed. 186 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 5: That changed music too, like it gave us a whole 187 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 5: genre that had never been created, like had never been 188 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 5: done before. And that all started because in Atlanta we 189 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 5: used to do like it was DJ Jelly, shout Out, 190 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 5: DJ Jelly shout Out, the J Team, DJ Smurf and 191 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: all of those guys. 192 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: They would take. 193 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 5: Like slow jam acapellas, like say, one famous mix was, uh, 194 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: can you Stand the Rain? New Edition and put it 195 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 5: over a base beat. So they used to do all 196 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 5: of these mixes like that. They would just do a 197 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 5: whole mixtape. It'll be all bass beats and then these 198 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 5: R and B A cappellas, and so I was like, 199 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 5: we love this so much in the city, let's take 200 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 5: that and make a record from that. 201 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: Nobody made an actual song. 202 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 5: So I came up with that concept and I went 203 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 5: to my boy DJ Cool Collie aka Rodney, and then 204 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 5: at the same time I met carlmo Uh. He used 205 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 5: to call the phone that Social Death and play his 206 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 5: tracks on the phone. Interesting story about that. So one 207 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 5: day I'm like, these tracks are dope. So I called 208 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 5: him to the to the office and he comes up 209 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 5: there with a freaking keyboard and plays the keyboard like 210 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 5: just playing the keyboard, not like no CDs, no cassette tape, 211 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 5: just playing the keyboard. And I'm like, this is crazy. 212 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 5: So I ended up using him and we did my 213 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 5: Boo and so yeah, I did all of the Soco 214 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 5: Death Base All Stars, and then out of that we 215 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 5: had play a Pancho. He got signed and we did 216 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 5: a couple of records with Player Pancho. And Player Pancho 217 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 5: is actually how I met the East Side Boys, Wow, 218 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 5: Because Player Pancho would always when he would go out, 219 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 5: he would have a whole like twenty ten twenty guys 220 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 5: with him, and the East Side Boys was always with him, 221 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 5: even if it was just like two or three guys. 222 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 5: And so I was always with Pancho because he was 223 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 5: my artist, you know. 224 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: And so me and the East Side Boys just one 225 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: day we were. 226 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 5: In the club and I think we were in the 227 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 5: club five five nine, and we just start chatting this. 228 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: Chant who who you with? Get with? And then everybody in. 229 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 5: The club start chatting it and then I look at 230 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 5: Big Sam. I'm like, we need to turn this into 231 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: a song. And so I know I have access to 232 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 5: people with labels and stuff, so I called somebody I knew. 233 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 5: Actually I called kol Ace. Uh, this guy named kol 234 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 5: Ace and kol A's connected me with this guy named 235 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 5: Carlos Glover and we ended up going in the studio 236 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 5: and we made the song who You With? And that 237 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 5: started everything for a little John as an artist. 238 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 4: When did you start producing? When did did the production 239 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: bug coming? 240 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: Uh? Probably like ninety two. 241 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: And you never you never made beats at that time. 242 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: You just bought a machine and said I'm on. 243 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 6: No. 244 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 5: It started off where me and my partner I used 245 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 5: to do a show in Atlanta called Reggae Jammin on 246 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 5: the like main station in Atlanta, B one O three and. 247 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: Me and Paul I was. 248 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 5: In the sound system with Paul Lewis called four Seasons. 249 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 5: So I was like a selector like Jamaican sound did. 250 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: Jamaican music did every time of genre of music. 251 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 5: We had a we had a dance hall, We had 252 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 5: a reggae show on Friday nights on the station and 253 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 5: and what we would do is I would take hip 254 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 5: hop a cappellas and put them over dance all beats 255 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 5: and dance all a cappellas, put them over hip hop beats. 256 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 5: Through that, we got linked up with Signette Records, and 257 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 5: we got we convinced them to give us the Cableton 258 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 5: Tour a cappella. That's how I got to do the 259 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 5: Cableton Tour remix. When I did Verses, I remember playing 260 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 5: it and people were like, you ain't do that, like 261 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 5: and I remember, like in real time, DJ Scratch pulled 262 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 5: the vinyl out and he put in the chat like 263 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 5: I'm looking at the credits. 264 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: He actually did produce it. 265 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 5: So what we did at that time we would kind 266 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,479 Speaker 5: of tell somebody how we wanted to produce the records, 267 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 5: and later on we bought a drum machine. I learned 268 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 5: how to produce by the time we got to Who 269 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 5: You Wit, which was ninety five ninety six, But before 270 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 5: that we kind of just told somebody like, yo, chop this, 271 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 5: chop that, do this da da. 272 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: Da da da yo, do you have product your credits 273 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 3: on my boot as well? 274 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: I did not. 275 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 5: I should have gotten some because I really co produced 276 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 5: the song with them, but I thought it's part of 277 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 5: my job description as an artist, the first project I'm 278 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 5: doing that, that was just part of the job. But 279 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 5: I was really there every step of the way of 280 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 5: inception and putting that song together. 281 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 6: I'm glad you mentioned Sam and Bolto because people always 282 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 6: seem to forget about. 283 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 3: The East Side Boys. What did they bring to the table? 284 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 6: What made Little John and the East Side Boys such 285 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 6: an amazing group? 286 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 5: We were just like because we were we were the 287 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 5: sound of the rowdy guys in the back of the club. 288 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: That's where we were. 289 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 5: We were them niggas that were turned up in the 290 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 5: back that you just be looking back like make sure 291 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 5: they ain't coming over. 292 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: Here with that. So we were that. 293 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 5: And what people don't understand about krunk music, I've known 294 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 5: some people are like, why was it? Why did it 295 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 5: do what it do? Why did it spread? Why did 296 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 5: it become big? Because it was an outlet of energy. 297 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: For black youth. 298 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 5: Yes, when you went to the club, you had a 299 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 5: hard ass week, you had a hard life, whatever the 300 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 5: fuck was going on in your life. You hear that 301 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 5: fucking crunk music and you get in that damn and 302 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 5: you let all of. 303 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: That out and you feel amazing, you know what I mean. 304 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 5: So that's why krunk music was able to reach so 305 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 5: many people. 306 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: That's why I still like going. 307 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 5: Like I see you talking of all the time about 308 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 5: knuck as you Buckets the Negro, and it is like 309 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 5: it touches your soul in a certain way. 310 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: And I think we do and and. 311 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 5: Like krunk music tap into music to their ancestors because 312 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 5: they were channing and so on and so forth. 313 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: What did you do when you were a band from clubs? 314 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 4: I remember in college there was some clubs that like, 315 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: you cannot play none of that in this club, put your. 316 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: Hood up and all that stuff. 317 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 5: We just kept going because when you when you tell 318 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 5: somebody can't have it, they wanted more, you know. But 319 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 5: it was crazy that the music got people so rowdy 320 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 5: that they were like losing. 321 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: I've seen people. 322 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 5: I was in Louisiana one time we did a show 323 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 5: and it got so turned up they start fighting the 324 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 5: police in the club. 325 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was crazy. 326 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 5: I want to just talk about one thing real quick 327 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 5: that it's been going viral. It's the video of the 328 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 5: two dollars bill concert that we did in Atlanta. It's 329 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 5: a viral video of be performing Get Crunk and that 330 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 5: whole concert, and you can see the energy on each 331 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 5: and if y'all look at the video, each and everybody 332 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 5: in there's face is turned up. It ain't nobody, not 333 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 5: one fucking cell phone in the air. Everybody's enjoying the moment. 334 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 5: Everybody is energized. And even you can see that the 335 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 5: ground was shaking because the camera when it's steady, it 336 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 5: is like moving. 337 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: That's how much. 338 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 5: Energy was in that place. And I think it's just 339 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 5: a testament to like we just brought something different, you know, 340 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 5: And like the kids now think they are turning up, 341 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 5: but they have no idea what a real turned up 342 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 5: time was from the two thousand. 343 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 6: And Get Crunked with such a great record, because I 344 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 6: didn't think you could get crunker than Kings of the Crunk, 345 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 6: you know, I didn't. 346 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: Think you could get crunkd in that. 347 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 6: But as soon as you hear who in my Bohagen 348 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 6: being me motherfucker, you like. 349 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: God killed that salute Bohagen out there? 350 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 6: How did you how did you even have the mindset 351 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 6: to take that to another level? 352 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: How did you take that energy to another level? 353 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 5: That beat was produced by Little J who produced kno 354 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 5: if you buck. So it was time to you know, 355 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 5: come and work on the album, and you know, everybody 356 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 5: down with be and me. Of course people that don't 357 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 5: know Crime Mob. Part of that was through being me, 358 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 5: so we are part of putting them out there. So 359 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 5: of course I called all of the squad, you know, 360 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: Trillville helped me write some of the songs. 361 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, Little Jay sent me. 362 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 5: I think he sent me some beats and that was 363 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 5: one of the beats and I was like, this is insane. 364 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: I thought it was one of the crukest beats ever too. 365 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 5: I think my favorite beats that I've produced, our co 366 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 5: produced are been on this get crunk and what You're 367 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 5: Gonna Do and what You're Gonna Do is unique. 368 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: I was in New York when I did that beat. 369 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 5: I remember I was on TVT and Steve got leeb 370 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: and shout out to Brian Leach, my boy, Brian Leach, 371 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 5: she was the ant ar at the time. He was 372 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 5: like Brian Leach. Brian Leash was like, Yo, you gotta 373 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 5: go in and knock out this song for this. I 374 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 5: think it was like a Christmas album or some Christmas 375 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 5: crunk album that Steve Gottlie wanted to put out and 376 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 5: I'm like, he can't put no fucking album out called 377 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 5: Crump without me. 378 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: So I'm like, fuck this guy. 379 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: And so I was in the New I was in 380 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 5: New York and Brian was like, you gotta go in 381 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 5: and record this song. So I was angry when I 382 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 5: made that beat. I'm never mad when I make tracks, 383 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 5: but that's one of the only beats I've ever made 384 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: when I was angry, And that's why it sounds so aggressive, 385 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 5: because I was mad that I had to go in 386 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 5: the studio and record this. I wanted to just go 387 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 5: out like I was like, I'm going on to the club. 388 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 5: He was like, no, you gotta go and do this song. 389 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 5: And so that's my anger coming out through the drummers. 390 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: Do you have a trademark the word crunk? 391 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: I can't remember. Probably did all my ad libs. 392 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 3: I know that because you're the face of crunk. 393 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 6: But to me, I would have to give I would 394 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 6: say three six Mafia probably the. 395 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 5: So that's another argument going around. It's an argument that 396 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 5: says Memphis started crunk. Here's here's my Here's what I 397 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 5: will say. We in Atlanta. You couldn't be Atlanta in 398 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 5: the nineties and not be listening to eight ball MJG. 399 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 5: You couldn't be riding around not listening to master P. 400 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: Master P. Master P changed the landscape of the South, 401 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: the South period. 402 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 5: He was the first one that really got us rally. 403 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 5: I would say it was master P, but we was 404 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 5: listening to Balling G. And of course three six Mafia 405 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 5: came around that. 406 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 3: Do you think he got us rody before three to six? 407 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: I think about it, about. 408 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 6: It, about it, yeah, but had a club. 409 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: Club was ninety seven? What yet about about it come out? 410 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 2: I was in college. 411 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 5: I think it was like ninety five. I remember what 412 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 5: happened was in the club in Atlanta. It was playing 413 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 5: bass music. And then when master P came that was. 414 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: Over about about that was ninety five, definitely. That was 415 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 4: a freshman of college. 416 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: That was the record. 417 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 5: Motherfuckers in the hood was getting no limit tattoos. 418 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: Exactly. 419 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 5: That's what changes for us. So I will say Memphis 420 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 5: is part of the influence, but our sound is different. 421 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 5: Memphis was getting Bucks. 422 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 3: It was ninety seven. That's even late though. 423 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 5: When we got when we got Terry Club was when 424 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 5: they redid it. That was ninety seven, because I remember 425 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 5: it says on the Vinyl Terror Club up ninety seven. So, 426 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 5: but it started for us with Master p Master. That 427 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 5: about it about it. 428 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: Shit just changed it. 429 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 5: But we are influenced. But it's all different sounds, but 430 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 5: it all intertwined and works together. 431 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: So what would you call what three six was doing? 432 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 5: They called it in Memphis Memphis buck, but three six 433 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 5: was doing it even we wouldn't even buck music. I 434 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 5: think it was just three six created The three six 435 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 5: created their own lane of Memphis music, and then they 436 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 5: changed the landscape of what Memphis music is. 437 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: So salute Paul Juicy and the whole squad. That's family too. 438 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: You know what I want? 439 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 4: You know what the word ask too when you made 440 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 4: when you were making these tracks, did you try to 441 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 4: make it your business not to sound the same, because 442 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 4: you know, when you look at your desiography to see 443 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 4: some of the records that you did, like, I'm so 444 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 4: amazed because they don't sound the same. 445 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 2: Right, you can go to the window. 446 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: To the wall, you could blow your whistle over here 447 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 4: and then you can like the ship is amazing. 448 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well it depends, well a lot of it. So 449 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 5: so let's talk Get Low. Interesting story of Get Low, 450 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 5: Get load became because I was trying to make Party Up. 451 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 5: I was inspired by part I love DMX's Party Up 452 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 5: so much. 453 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to make something like that. 454 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: Let me go in the studio. This was like ninety nine, 455 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: and so I go in and. 456 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 5: I come out with Get Low. If you listen to it, 457 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 5: it's got the whistle like Party Up. It's some similarities. 458 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 5: I'm inspired by it. But I sat on the beat. 459 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 5: I couldn't really come up with nothing. And then I 460 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 5: had a session with Yin Yang and I pulled that 461 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 5: beat out and we may get Low. So it comes 462 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 5: out like that just came like I said, because I 463 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 5: was trying to do something different, but it turned from 464 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 5: like a rowdy party up type song to a tork song. 465 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 5: But then like say tell me when to go E forty. 466 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 5: We were in the studio together, and that's the energy 467 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 5: of what he's giving me and his squad is giving me, and. 468 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: It comes out into the drummer shoit. 469 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 5: So every time I make the best stuff when I'm 470 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 5: in the studio, young bloods. 471 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: Damn. 472 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 5: We were in the studio together and it took two 473 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 5: days for us to get that song done. Like I 474 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 5: did the beat the first day. We had the verses 475 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 5: the first day, but we did not have the hook. 476 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 5: And then the second day we just threw a party 477 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 5: in the studio and then Bohagen again, shout out Bohagen. 478 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 5: He was like everybody was throwing hooks out and then 479 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 5: he was just kind of mumbling something. I was like, 480 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 5: what you got, because I'm shooting everybody shit down like 481 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 5: that shits trash and then he's. 482 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: Just mumbling son. I was like, what's that? 483 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 6: That? 484 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 5: That's it, that's it, go lay that and then I 485 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 5: got the second part, you know, And sometimes that's how 486 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 5: some of the records happened to, like you just stumble 487 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 5: onto it. 488 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: Whistle blow the whistle. I did that beat that. 489 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 5: I did that beat the same week that I did 490 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 5: tell me when to go Damn. 491 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 492 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 5: So I was working on E forty's album and I 493 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 5: think we had done muscle Cars that day. So too Short, 494 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 5: Too Short had came to the studio a couple of 495 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 5: days after that. So before, like earlier in the week, 496 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 5: I was making beats and I was going through sounds 497 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 5: and I found that sound and I was like, ooh, 498 00:21:59,200 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 5: this sounded. 499 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: Like rikytails baseline, Like this is a base like that. 500 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 5: I was like, let me make some with that. And 501 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 5: I don't know what made me instead of making it slow, 502 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 5: make it fast. Because I like to do stuff different. 503 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 5: I don't like to be expected. So I was like, 504 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 5: let me make it one hundred whatever bpms and so 505 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 5: I put it to the side, and when too Short 506 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 5: came to the studio a couple of days later, I 507 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 5: was like, here you go. 508 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: You know I got something for you. 509 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 5: But first forty turned it down to forty Forty had 510 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 5: to remind me of this the other day. He was like, 511 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 5: you know, you gave me that beat first, and I 512 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 5: was like, this sounded like Todd, so give it to Todd. 513 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 5: So that's what happened. 514 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: Basically, he should get corproduction credits. 515 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: He didn't want it. 516 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 6: What moment made you realize Crump had officially crossed from 517 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 6: suvering energy to a global. 518 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: Move coming up doing MTV. 519 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 5: They let me get in Times Square on a double 520 00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 5: deckord bus with a little scrappy on tr real doing 521 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 5: what you gonna do? 522 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: Bruh MTV. 523 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 6: I was gonna say MTV too, because I remember watching 524 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 6: the Video Music Awards. 525 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: I forgot what year it was. 526 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 6: They played get Low Going in the commercial break and 527 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 6: the audience went crazy, and Justin Timberlake was Wilent. I 528 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 6: just remember thinking to myself, Oh, get Lowers out of here. 529 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then we end up performing get Low at 530 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 5: the MTV Video Music Awards. 531 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: Get Low, Yeah, Lean Back. 532 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 5: And what else we did that year, I can't remember, 533 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 5: but that was that was a big time and Dave 534 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 5: Chappelle was the host, So that was pretty insane. 535 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: That was a pretty insane year for me. 536 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 4: And when when you touched when you started doing R 537 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 4: and B, did you think you could do R and B? 538 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: Or was one of the things. 539 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 4: How did you get introduced to say, let me try 540 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 4: to make R and B records for doing all? 541 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: It was already doing them with the social also. 542 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: Well that was different. So here's what happened. 543 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 5: So Sean Garrett shout out Sean Garrett, incredible songwriter. He 544 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 5: reached out to h I guess he was trying to 545 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 5: get in touch with me and he couldn't get in 546 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 5: touch with me, so he knew somebody that worked with me. 547 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: Her name was Delicia. 548 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 5: Delicia had all my beats, so she gave him a 549 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 5: beat CD and that's how he got the beat. 550 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: Basically, the freak Elite beat, which turned into yeah. So 551 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: she gave him the beat. 552 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 5: So thank you Delicia forgiving Sean those beats, and Sean 553 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 5: wrote yeah to. 554 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: That freakaak beat. 555 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 5: So crazy thing about that is that beat was for mystical. 556 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 5: Freakalyague's beat was for mystical. 557 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: So I did though. 558 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 5: I used to like have labels booked me in Circle 559 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 5: House shout out be Bat Circle House in Miami, and 560 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 5: I like take a week and I just go and 561 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 5: do as mini beats as possible, and the label could 562 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 5: take all the beats put them on whatever artists they want. 563 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 5: So these particular sessions was for mystical. That beat was 564 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 5: in there. He passed on it, and so I think 565 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 5: CEO shout out Coo. He got the beat and he 566 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 5: wrote Freakalyak my I don't even know this, but he 567 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 5: wrote that and submitted it to the label Pete Pablo. 568 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 5: He ended up recording. But I don't even know this. 569 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 5: So Sean Garrett has the beat. He writes, yeah, usher 570 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 5: don't want to record no more songs. 571 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: He done with the damn Alutum. He's like, I'm good, 572 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: I got burned, I got all these other songs. I'm good, 573 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: We're good. 574 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 5: La reads like, no, go record the damn song. So 575 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 5: he goes to record the song and. 576 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: We come out with it. 577 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 5: I remember going into doing the sessions too, like we 578 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 5: I think we recording La and we were like, this 579 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 5: is a smash, right, And so the song is in 580 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 5: the can and then I remember it was around Christmas time, 581 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 5: the album's done. La Reid is in Miami and he 582 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 5: calls JD going insane, and JD called me on three 583 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 5: Way and La Reid is like, why am I hearing 584 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 5: this Usher record on the radio? And basically it was 585 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 5: the freakingly instrumental plan as a bed. They had released 586 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 5: the song as a single, Freaka Leak, and we didn't 587 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 5: even know. 588 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: I didn't even know they had used to beat. 589 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 5: So La Red is going crazy and then we're like, 590 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 5: all right, we're just gonna go in and do a 591 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 5: new beat. Thank god we did, because yeah over Freaka 592 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 5: Leak is not as good as yeah as Yeah. Now 593 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 5: that's how God worked. And crazy story is when I 594 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 5: went into the studio to like redo the beat, I'm like, 595 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 5: how that. 596 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: Pete Poplo record ain't gonna be that big? Just take 597 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: all the keys off. Let's just play a new stem. 598 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 5: Because it's Usher, you know what I mean, And I don't, 599 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 5: you know, I just didn't think it was gonna be 600 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 5: that big. It could have been a cool record, but 601 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 5: I didn't think it was gonna be a number one 602 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 5: song like it was. So that's why the beats sound similar, 603 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 5: is because I just used the same exact drums, but 604 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 5: I played a different synth line. So well, it got 605 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 5: my boy a rock. My boy Rock played the scynth line. 606 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 5: So we just played a new synth line and here 607 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 5: we are with two monsters. 608 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 609 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 6: It probably helped frequently though, because yeah, make. 610 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: Them together lovers and friends, so that I was going 611 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: to get to that. 612 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 8: That origin story tell them. 613 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: So when we when I can't. 614 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 5: We were working on my album Crunk Juice, right, So uh, 615 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 5: instead of going with another up tempo, I like to 616 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 5: be different. I could have certainly went to Usher, John 617 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 5: and Luda with another fast song. I said, let's do 618 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 5: something different. And at at in Atlanta, we go to 619 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 5: Strip club for everything, so we always in you know. 620 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 5: I was in the Strip club one day and the 621 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 5: DJ played the Michael Sterling Lovers. 622 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: And Friends, and I was like, huh, that could be 623 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: pretty cool for Usher to do. 624 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 5: So let's let's back up. So this is before Usher's 625 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 5: album is done. I give Usher the Michael Starr on 626 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: the City, like check this out. We should do this 627 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 5: over this nigga don't listen to it. He don't listen 628 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 5: to it, so we on my album. So I'm like, 629 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take that Lovers and Friends I did and 630 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 5: do it from my album. So I do the beat 631 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 5: over and I let Usher know, yo, I got this 632 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 5: joint for us, like come you know, let's do it. 633 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 5: So he flies in, he records it, and he's out 634 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 5: and after he does his part, so I'm just like, wow, 635 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 5: this is a smash. 636 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: So I called Lula. 637 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 5: I'm like, bro, we got another one, like I need 638 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 5: you on his ASAP saying it Luda. He did his 639 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 5: parts and then I go in last because I'm not 640 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 5: the rapper, and so I was like, I need to 641 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 5: take my time to make sure. 642 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: My verse is as catchy as possible because. 643 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 5: I can't compete against Luda Chris and then it's Ussher 644 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 5: like come on. So I was like, let me take 645 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 5: something from this record. We had a record called It's 646 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 5: a record we did with Ubi. 647 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 3: I forgot the name of it, nothing. 648 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: Free, nothing Free. You forget that that's a classic, Nothing's Free. 649 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 5: So we did nothing Free like in the nineties, and 650 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 5: so I was like, that shady part was really catchy 651 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 5: on that song, but it was regional. Nobody really heard 652 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 5: it out of the South. So it's like, let me 653 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 5: take that same little thing and put that in Lovers 654 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 5: and Friends, and that will be the little catch for 655 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 5: my verse to make it catchier and a little Did 656 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 5: I know that I was gonna be like people's favorite 657 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,479 Speaker 5: verses because it's so simple. It's so simple and it's catchy, 658 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 5: and yeah, that's one of That song went number one without 659 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 5: a video because it was the labels and Superstartists and 660 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 5: superstar ad and Da Da Da Da Da. But number 661 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 5: one song rap song of the year without a video 662 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 5: in the two thousands is impossible. 663 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 6: You got three of and you made me think of 664 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 6: it when you said nothing is for You got three 665 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 6: artists that I feel like should have been way Yeah, 666 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 6: China White, Yeah, Ubie and Bull Hagen. 667 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 3: Yeah what you what do you think? Why did I 668 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: didn't connect? 669 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 5: We worked hard, like Ubi was with me for a 670 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 5: long time. We did a lot of records, but we 671 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 5: just never got the right one. Just how it just 672 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 5: happens like that sometimes with artists. Uh, China went to 673 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 5: jail right when we shot the video for Bea Bea 674 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 5: and me and my boy Rob Mac left the video 675 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 5: at the end of the video shoot. We drove her 676 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 5: to prison after the video shoot, all the way in Louisiana. 677 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: So she did. I don't remember how much time it was. 678 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: It was at least five years. 679 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 9: That sounds she went to fan time for gun Running 680 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 9: Damn yeah. 681 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 5: So she she didn't even get to perform the song 682 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 5: at its peak at all, so that that messed her 683 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 5: window up. And then bo Haggen the same thing. We 684 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 5: were just trying to get the records. We just never 685 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 5: got the records. 686 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: You know. 687 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 5: We said, I set them up nicely and get crunk 688 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 5: and you know he did the hook on Dan, but 689 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 5: we just never was able to translate. Those are things 690 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 5: that you know, hurt me to this day because those 691 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 5: were people that are down with me for a long 692 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 5: time and I was pushing, pushing, pushing and working they 693 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 5: make the record, but sometimes they just it just don't 694 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 5: come out. 695 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 8: You know, I was gonna say with the Lovers and 696 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 8: Friends video when I when I watched you tell the 697 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 8: story you talked about I know you mentioned labels loosely, 698 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 8: but you said that the labels didn't look at you 699 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 8: as a comparable artist too. Yeah, which when I heard, like, 700 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 8: I just I mean, I don't know, it made me 701 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 8: upset when I heard, Well. 702 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 5: You gotta think Ludacris is a rapper death Jam in 703 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 5: the two thousands, Usher is fucking Usher at Monster, biggest 704 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 5: guy in R and B. 705 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: And I'm this guy doing crump music. You got it. 706 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: It's not the time, it's not the same times. 707 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 5: Now as I'm I'm known, I'm established, I've proven myself 708 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 5: over and over again. But early in those in those days, 709 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 5: it hadn't happened yet. 710 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, they. 711 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 6: Feel like you helped the find that whole sound of 712 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 6: the early dude. 713 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: But they didn't. I don't feel like, you know, death Jam, 714 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 715 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: Oh sure, I don't think nobody got it back then. No, Yeah, 716 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: Lotu John was it was. 717 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: He wasn't looked at as an artist per se like 718 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 4: Luda or exactly Usher. He was a host, djuction. Yeah 719 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 4: that's what it was. 720 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: Hype man, producer. Yeah, you know, that's the. 721 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 6: Clubs without you know what was the clubs without crunk music? 722 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: Little John back then like no. 723 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: A lot less energy. 724 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: Was it ever a low period for Little John? 725 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 726 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 5: I got burnt out probably after after the forties album, 727 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 5: and I think I tried, we tried to do a 728 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 5: second trivial and scrappy album, and I. 729 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: Just was fried from all. 730 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 5: You know, you got to think about I was going 731 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 5: since the nineties ninety three, you know, producing to was 732 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 5: that two thousand and eight or nine two thousand and eight, 733 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 5: and I'm I'm just depleted. I have no creative juices left. 734 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 5: I go in the studio, I'm trying to produce and 735 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 5: trying to make stuff. I think, yet nothing's coming out. 736 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 5: I think that's also what happened with two of those 737 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 5: artists too, because I might have gotten to the point 738 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 5: where I was just had nothing left. 739 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't create it. 740 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 5: And then so what I started to do was just 741 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 5: go back to the foundation DJJ, go back to the clubs. 742 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 5: And what happened was Reggie Bush invited me out to 743 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 5: the first game in the super Dome after Katrina. So 744 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 5: I went there and that night he had an after party, 745 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 5: went to the after party and it was a DJ 746 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 5: DJ and I was just like, this dude is freaking dope. 747 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 5: So I met the dude and he was cool and 748 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 5: so the next day his. 749 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: Name is DJ Spider. 750 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 5: So the next day we were I was in the 751 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 5: airport and this nerdy white dude come up to me like, hey, 752 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 5: remember me? Like who he was like, oh, Spider, I 753 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 5: was DJing last night. I was like, oh shit, So 754 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 5: what happened was he really inspired me to get back 755 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 5: into DJing by the way he was mixing. So me 756 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 5: and Spider linked up. He like got me on Serado, 757 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 5: he started like giving, gave me, helped me get my 758 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 5: music library up, and we started DJing together. So I 759 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 5: started to kind of get back into DJing, and so 760 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 5: d Jing brought my producer creative energy back. 761 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 3: Is that when the records like Shot Shot Shots and 762 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: all that stuff. 763 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 5: That came just by me being out and meeting people 764 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 5: and and you know learning this you know Open Format 765 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 5: World and EDM World and and yeah, I ended up 766 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 5: meeting lmfao. I was kind of following their story and 767 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 5: uh a mutual friend of ours named Eric Deluxe who 768 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 5: kind of he wrote shots too. U He reached out 769 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 5: to me and sent me to record. I was like, 770 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 5: this record is a smash. But around that time, I 771 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 5: think I first met them when we did a pit 772 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 5: Bull video. 773 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: We were on like I think it was crazy. I 774 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: think they were in that video. 775 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 5: So I was kind of working with Pittbull because we 776 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 5: did the anthem we did Crazy. Then Yeah shots came 777 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 5: so I was still I started to move into another 778 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 5: world because I saw that EDM world. I kind of 779 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 5: jumped in right at just starting to get crazy, and 780 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 5: I ended up getting a DJ residency in eight in Vegas. 781 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 5: So I've been in Vegas doing a DJ residency since 782 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 5: eight and I'm still there now. So that was a 783 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 5: place where I could really, you know, learn a different style, 784 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 5: just open format world and just get my energy back 785 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 5: from just being in the midst of the people and 786 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 5: understanding what makes people move and groove again. Because DJing 787 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 5: is the foundation of my production. Like I think I 788 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 5: started playing the drums when I was in elementary school, 789 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 5: So drums and DJing are the two key elements to 790 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 5: my production style. 791 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: That's why it's. 792 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 5: More beat driven and that's why they're all club records. 793 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 6: A DJ side when you choose the pivot, because you 794 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 6: know you've pivoted a lot. When you choose the pivot, 795 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 6: is it because of where music is going or where 796 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 6: you're going as a person. 797 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 5: Where my spirit leaves me my spirit? You know, when 798 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 5: I started to get back into djaying, God put these 799 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 5: people in my path to say, okay, you should now 800 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 5: start moving over here. And I remember like telling my 801 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 5: manager and my lawyer, I want to go over here 802 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 5: and do this DJ stuff. They like, Bro, you're making 803 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 5: one hundred grand or beat? What the hell is wrong 804 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 5: with you? I was like, I can't do. 805 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: It no more. 806 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 5: But I saw the future and I just trust. I 807 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 5: always trust my spirit. Ladies and gentlemen, don't listen to 808 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 5: your mind, listen to your spirit. And you got to 809 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 5: learn the difference between the two. And when you learn 810 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 5: the difference, your spirit is never gonna lead you wrong. 811 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 5: Real trust it and it's gonna be fine. And that's 812 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 5: what I've been doing, you know, pretty much my whole life, 813 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 5: and everything's been okay, you know what I mean. Like 814 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 5: I've been able to now have number one medium song, 815 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 5: hip hop song, R and B song, AC song. How 816 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 5: many people you know had a hit song in every 817 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 5: in four decades, because you know, we had a hit 818 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 5: with even the usher Glue song. I think it was 819 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 5: an AC hit number one, I take it. And then 820 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 5: I had a song with Pitt Bull that came out 821 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 5: two years ago called Jumping that was like number one 822 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 5: on some chart. So yeah, since the nineties, I've been 823 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 5: doing this and I'm just thankful every day to wake 824 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 5: up and to still be able to do this, and 825 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 5: to also like, right now is the time where the 826 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 5: two thousands is on fire? Yeah, like, yes, it's on 827 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 5: Like I'm doing so many shows that and and for 828 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 5: crowds that I haven't seen and you know, or maybe 829 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 5: not have done it as a headline. I have never 830 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 5: headlined for ten thousand people until like the last couple 831 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 5: of years Tackles. 832 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 833 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 5: So it's like, it's amazing that people the memories that 834 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 5: people have from that era, the fun time they had, 835 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 5: it's making this music you know now come back and 836 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 5: it's in a major. 837 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 7: Way made you what made you do the meditation. So 838 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 7: that's totally far the other end of the spectrum. 839 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, turning fifty, turn fifty, a lot of things started 840 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 5: to happen in my life. First thing I it hit 841 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 5: me was like I asked myself, what makes you happy? 842 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: And I said, damn, only. 843 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 5: Making sure everybody else good, but that's not what makes me. 844 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 5: Like what makes me happy? I couldn't really tell myself, 845 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 5: and so I was like, you know what, I need 846 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 5: to kind of put myself first. 847 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:55,479 Speaker 1: Like I'm not happy in this marriage. Like, so I said, 848 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: I want to do divorce. 849 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 5: And so around the same time, me and my my 850 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 5: good friend Doug Davis we talk like every year because 851 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 5: he calls and gives me shit because he's he's like 852 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 5: a couple months younger than me, so he's like, oh, 853 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 5: you're old man. 854 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: So we're talking. 855 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 5: And he was telling me he wanted to introduce me 856 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 5: to somebody that was in this space and I was like, oh, 857 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 5: that's interesting because I've been listening to like all of this, 858 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 5: like b neural beats to sleep and relax and ocean 859 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 5: and rain and all of this type of stuff. So 860 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,280 Speaker 5: me and this guy kuld Bear, his name is caber Sego, 861 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 5: we connected. And so I'm going through the divorce and 862 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 5: like I didn't like where my mental state was at 863 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 5: because I'm angry, like, ah, why can't she just do 864 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 5: this and that? And so I'm like mad, and I 865 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 5: don't like, That's not me. I'm a positive at all 866 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 5: times person. I don't think negatively. So I'm like, I 867 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 5: started to like medit day. I started to say affirmations 868 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 5: every day, and it helped me to be in a 869 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 5: better mental state, as well as having good people in 870 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 5: my corner, like my queen. 871 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: Her name is Jamila. 872 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 5: She was there for me at that time, and she 873 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 5: would give me like also like just positive. She would 874 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 5: just keep me, try to keep me in a positive mindset. 875 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 5: And she had been through a rough divorce too, so 876 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 5: she can give me some insight and just you know, 877 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 5: help me keep my head up. So the affirmations every day, 878 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 5: I would literally get a cup of tea and I 879 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 5: had a copper pyramid on my deck. I'll drink, get 880 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 5: my tea, go sit in this copper pyramid and meditate 881 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 5: and just say these affirmations. I'm happy, I'm healthy, I'm 882 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 5: at peace every single day and throughout the day. And 883 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 5: so all of this happened at the same time I 884 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 5: meet Caber and me and Caber are talking. He's like, 885 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 5: let's do we should do meditation. So I was like, yeah, 886 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 5: let's do that. I'm down with that. I think that's 887 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 5: great because I was saying these affirmations I meditated. 888 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 1: So uh, we went in recorded a bunch of stuff. 889 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 5: But yeah, it was because I needed it was time 890 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 5: for a change in my life. I needed to be 891 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 5: in more positive mindset. One thing that I also did 892 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 5: was I was like I would say, affirmations of negativity 893 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 5: can live inside of me. 894 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: I like, I don't. I try to get rid of 895 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: all negative thoughts. 896 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 5: And when I did that, when I really got rid 897 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 5: of the negative thoughts, I ain't not even saying the 898 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 5: word hate. 899 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: I didn't even use that word. 900 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 5: So I'm always trying to change anything that happens to me. 901 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 5: In any negative situation, it's some positivity you can pull 902 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 5: out of that you focus on that. So I would 903 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 5: always pull that positivity out. And I've learned if you 904 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 5: pull that out, pull pull a positivity out of any 905 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 5: negative situation, and you let God drive, don't try to 906 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 5: drive and trust God every it ain't gonna. 907 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 3: Always be all right. 908 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 5: And so we went in we recorded these albums, and 909 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 5: you know, this time of my life is feeling like 910 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,479 Speaker 5: I'm doing what God intended me to do. But what's 911 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 5: amazing is everything that got me here I was supposed 912 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 5: to do. And even like all of the music that 913 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 5: I've given people gave people positivity. So it's always been positivity, 914 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 5: but it's meaning more now when someone tells me I. 915 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,720 Speaker 1: Never meditated, you helped me meditate. 916 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 5: I was having trouble getting over this grief of losing someone. 917 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: Your meditation about grief helped me. I'm inspired to do. 918 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 5: You know how many people have called me about getting 919 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 5: in the gym. It's insane, Like celebrities, all kind of 920 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 5: people are like, you inspired me to get healthy. So 921 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 5: I feel now like I'm doing what God intended me 922 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 5: to do. 923 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: It took me a long time to. 924 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 5: Get here, but this is the time it's supposed to 925 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 5: be and crazy. I was thinking about this the other day. 926 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 5: I met mister Farrakhan at the Source Awards and he 927 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 5: basically told me, he said, you got power, you got 928 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 5: a voice, and he basically was kind of trying to 929 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 5: tell me, like use it and that like that stuck 930 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 5: with me, like I'm like, okay, but now I'm using 931 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 5: my voice and my power in a good way to 932 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 5: push positivity. 933 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: Into the world. 934 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 7: So that is what makes you happy. 935 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: That's what that's what you know what Yeah, it makes 936 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: me happy that. 937 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 5: Just to be just to do good, you know, just 938 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 5: to do good, because all that comes back and when 939 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 5: you like, a guy came to me, I did the 940 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 5: col of guard thing, right, A guy came to me 941 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 5: in the club one night in the club and was like, 942 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 5: I did that col of guard test because of you, 943 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 5: and it came back positive, and he did he didn't 944 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 5: have colon cancer, but he had polyps. So just stuff 945 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 5: like that, it just makes me feel like I'm doing 946 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 5: good in the workpiring people and being a good role 947 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 5: model to my son. 948 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: I have a daughter now, you know, she's ten months old. 949 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 3: Congratulation. 950 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,879 Speaker 5: I look at life like with health like I got 951 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 5: to be here for her, you know what I'm saying. 952 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 5: I got to be here for her first day of school. 953 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 5: I gotta be here for high school graduation, walk her 954 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 5: down the aisle. So health is even more important than me. 955 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 5: It was something I was doing to just you know, 956 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 5: live a long, full life. But even more so now 957 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 5: I have even more motivation because of my daughter. 958 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: And her mother. I got to be here for them, 959 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 960 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 6: So it's crazy to see you cry because a lot 961 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 6: of people who never even thought you had ice. 962 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: No, you know what, black man, we need to cry. 963 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: So we need to cry. 964 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 5: When you get more in tune to your higher self 965 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 5: and you stop vibrating at these low frequencies, you can 966 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 5: let yourself let the energy flow as we should. We 967 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 5: don't have to be tough all the time. 968 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: And you're an advocate for therapy. 969 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 5: I push all brothers that we don't have to suffer 970 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 5: in silence. 971 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 1: We suffer in freaking silence. 972 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 5: Call your homie sometime to just be like, my nigga, 973 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 5: you good? How you doing not just period, but how 974 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 5: you mentally doing? Bro, Because that one little conversation could 975 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 5: make him not go do some stupid shit or take 976 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 5: his life or whatever. 977 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: You know. So I started doing therapy. I push anything, 978 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: any knowledge that. 979 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 5: I got, I try to share with everybody because we 980 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 5: got to help each other. 981 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 3: We all we got what's the gym? What's the gymy? 982 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 5: This is a trying, This is positivity abundance and it's 983 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 5: also my daughter's birthstone. 984 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 985 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 3: I want to ask you a question about about marriage. 986 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 6: Like you never hear men say they were tired of 987 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,280 Speaker 6: the marriage, like they wanted to walk away. 988 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 5: What happens is when you start to walk on those eggshells. 989 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 5: It's just not it's just not a positive environment. And 990 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 5: then when you get to the point where a lot 991 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 5: of times in marriage, we're just there making sure everything's good, 992 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 5: and who the hell checking on us, who's making sure 993 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,760 Speaker 5: we okay? Who's making who's coming to us and saying 994 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 5: what do you need today? 995 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: What can I do for you to make you happy? 996 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 9: You know? 997 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,720 Speaker 1: I know we're the providers and all of that. 998 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 5: But we need that love too. We need that assurance. 999 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 5: Sometimes women go to your men and just make them 1000 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 5: feel like, appreciate it because to live in today's society, 1001 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 5: to go out and make that money and all of 1002 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,720 Speaker 5: the things a husband and a father has to worry 1003 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,800 Speaker 5: about every single day. Like I said, suffering in silence 1004 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 5: that y'all have no clue about. Just be that positive light, 1005 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 5: make that house a home, make it radiate positivity. 1006 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: You know. 1007 00:46:53,760 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 5: So yeah, man, y'all got me up here crime you 1008 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 5: might have needed. 1009 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 2: To release you know. You know what I wanted to 1010 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 2: know when when Dave Chappelle was doing the skits at first, 1011 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 2: did you take it as disrespectful? Did you always was like, 1012 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 2: oh this is great? 1013 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 5: No, A cipher sounds called me and he was like 1014 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 5: when he did the first one, and he was like, Yo, 1015 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 5: Dave Chappelle did this skit on you, Bro, It's crazy, 1016 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 5: it's hilarious. I was like on me, I'm like, why 1017 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 5: are you doing sketch on me? Like I ain't nobody, 1018 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 5: and he's like, bro, trust me. And so when I 1019 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 5: saw it, I was like, that's really me. 1020 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: That is really me. 1021 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 5: And I got on this show because I went one 1022 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,240 Speaker 5: day to just tell Dave thank you for doing the sketches, 1023 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 5: because we have a mutual A friend's named Corey Smith, 1024 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 5: and Cory is the reason Dave is part of the 1025 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 5: reason Dave does the sketch too, because I think they 1026 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 5: might have heard this song, like what song was it? 1027 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 2: I don't give it. 1028 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't give him. He might have heard it. 1029 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 5: And he probably was like this would be interesting if 1030 00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 5: that's all he says. But he's actually intelligent. 1031 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: And then Corey was like, yeah, John, Corey thought I 1032 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: went to Morehouse. 1033 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 5: I just was always hanging out in the AUC because 1034 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 5: back in the nineties, if you're from Atlanta, you went 1035 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 5: to the AUC. 1036 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: Clark. 1037 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 5: All of that to just get girls, you know what 1038 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 5: I mean. So you just used to go holler at 1039 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 5: the girls. So I used to be always up there. 1040 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,879 Speaker 5: So Corey was like, no, he's smart, he come from 1041 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 5: this and that. So Dave ran with it, and so 1042 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 5: I went to the show to thank Dave and Day 1043 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 5: was like, man, hang. 1044 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: Out, I want you to. Let's do a sketch. Like 1045 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: he didn't even have it, he didn't even know I 1046 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: was coming. 1047 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 5: And so we was just we did one sketch and 1048 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 5: then he had an idea to do another one, so 1049 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,759 Speaker 5: he just had me on camera and he was off 1050 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 5: camera and we was improving back and forth, and that's 1051 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 5: how we got. 1052 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: The Little John and Little John sketch. 1053 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 5: And to think that I was able to improv with 1054 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,919 Speaker 5: one of the greatest comedians of our time. How many 1055 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 5: people get to do that? Not many, you know, So 1056 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 5: that was that was amazing. And Dave to me places 1057 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 5: that music would never ever be able to take me. 1058 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 3: How did that change everything for you? Just that sketch. 1059 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,280 Speaker 5: It just opened me up to more people that didn't 1060 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 5: get it or didn't would have never listened to the music. 1061 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,399 Speaker 5: I remember just being in the airport and like all 1062 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 5: kinds of white people coming to me, like whole families 1063 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 5: and all just all types of people because he was 1064 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 5: moving the needle at that time for culture so and 1065 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 5: it just yeah, it just opened up a lot more doors. 1066 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,320 Speaker 7: And that's when they started putting the t's in the name. 1067 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 5: Little John that yeah so and shout out the cat 1068 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,239 Speaker 5: Williams soon because he he co signed me too when 1069 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 5: he did his Pimp Chronicles. I think that's his greatest 1070 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 5: special to. I'm going to record saying that. 1071 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: And you know, we he brought me out and let 1072 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 1: me do. 1073 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 5: My catchphrases and we ended up going in the studio 1074 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 5: working on some songs together. He just come by the house, 1075 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 5: shout out the cat. I need to get you in 1076 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 5: the gym with me. Cat, you can go work out, 1077 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 5: you can run, but can you push them weight up? 1078 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1079 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 4: Try to do that to do People come up to 1080 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 4: you all the time like come on one time. 1081 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, could be yeah. Man, they don't do 1082 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: it as much as they used to. 1083 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 5: But like people that used to hang out with me, 1084 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 5: like say too early two thousands are you know twenty 1085 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,919 Speaker 5: tens used to be like, bro, you don't get tired 1086 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 5: of that. 1087 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even hear it no more. 1088 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 5: I zone the people out, but like, yeah, I used 1089 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 5: to be at like TSA, a grocery store exactly, and 1090 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 5: they do it, so they so they expect me to 1091 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 5: do it, so they keep doing it and I might just. 1092 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 7: Be like, what's up, bro, meditation album? You do it's 1093 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 7: a soft yeah, but you. 1094 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So that's the new the new meditation album. 1095 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 5: So when we did the first, we recorded a bunch 1096 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 5: of stuff. 1097 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 1: When we you know, early too well, sorry. 1098 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 5: When I did the first Meditation album, I recorded a 1099 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 5: couple other projects. So one of the projects was something 1100 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 5: that my my god, Doug Davis came up with. He 1101 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 5: was like, you should take your songs and remix them 1102 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 5: into meditations and I was like okay. So we recorded it, 1103 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 5: but I was like, this don't need to come out 1104 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 5: first because nobody's gonna take me serious. 1105 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna like, yeah, get low and ground, you know. 1106 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 5: So I was like, we're not gonna do that first, 1107 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,359 Speaker 5: So now the time we're gonna drop that. I think 1108 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 5: it's a fun project, but it's real meditations, but it's 1109 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 5: just a playoff of the songs that you know and love. 1110 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 6: I just got a couple of questions, you know, the 1111 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 6: industry rewards constant energy, right, like you gotta always be on. 1112 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 6: How did you learn the difference between performance energy and 1113 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 6: just personal peace? 1114 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 5: I just in myself. It's spiritual again, Like I'm just 1115 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 5: I just know when to be crazy, little John. 1116 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: I know, be going to be just cool, chill. 1117 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 5: It's just just let my spirit got me everywhere, you 1118 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:57,959 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. 1119 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,399 Speaker 6: So and you talking about the meditation and the mind 1120 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,120 Speaker 6: from this, like what I would ask when you were 1121 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 6: at the height of crump, did you even have the 1122 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 6: language for like stress and anxiety and burnout back then? 1123 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 1: No? I didn't. 1124 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 5: I was just go go go go, go, go, go, go, go, 1125 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 5: go go go. It was all just cause I don't 1126 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 5: I don't know where the peak is, you know what 1127 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 5: I mean? And I don't even expect to get where 1128 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 5: I got, you know, because I just started off me 1129 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 5: and the Eastside Boys. We did that first song who 1130 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 5: You With, just to make something for the clubs of Atlanta, 1131 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 5: and then that turned into Okay, now you gotta do 1132 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 5: an album, and then that turned into being on Anger 1133 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 5: Management tour with Eminem and fifty Cent, and then fifty 1134 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 5: cent even took me to Australia, I went on tour 1135 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 5: with fifty in Australia, you. 1136 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. 1137 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 5: So it's like, I'm just happy to be here. I'm 1138 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 5: just gonna keep going because and that's how I am. Like, 1139 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 5: I just I gotta work. I gotta keep working, you know, 1140 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 5: because these are opportunities that are coming to me. So 1141 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 5: I don't want to you know, somebody sitting at home 1142 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 5: right now wishing they could be out, or somebody else 1143 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 5: could take this opportunity and use it if I don't 1144 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 5: use it. 1145 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take advantage of all of that. Now. 1146 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 4: You are a big drink at one time and totally 1147 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 4: stopped Yes, yeah, what made you stop that drinking? 1148 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 1: Turning fifty? 1149 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 2: Had to fifty to stop drinking? 1150 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:17,760 Speaker 1: Ye, judge, judgment you damn. 1151 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 5: So I turned fifty and for a while, like a 1152 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 5: year or two, I had this constant like discomfort, excuse me, 1153 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 5: discomfort in my side and I didn't even know what 1154 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 5: it was. So fifty like, I need to go get 1155 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 5: a I need to go to a doctor, right, So 1156 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 5: I went to the doctor and the doctor is like, okay, 1157 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 5: for one is I thought it was my liver because 1158 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 5: I'm like, I drink too much. It's got to be 1159 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 5: my liver, and I'm scared. So he's like, your liver's 1160 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 5: on the other side, it's not yours. And then he's like, 1161 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:54,799 Speaker 5: it's probably inflammation in your gut. He's like, you're you're 1162 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,399 Speaker 5: fifty years old. You need a colonoscope anyway to check 1163 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 5: for polyps. So when I'm in there, I can check. 1164 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 5: I can do an endoscopy and check your gut. So 1165 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 5: comes back and I have inflammation in my gut. So 1166 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 5: I had stopped drinking because I was scared of deliver. 1167 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 5: So I had already stopped. So by the time I 1168 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 5: had the colonoscopy, it had been like six months, and 1169 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 5: I was like, I'm good, I'm just gonna not drink 1170 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 5: no more. 1171 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: So I think I was going like three months and 1172 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: I was like six months. I was like nah. Then 1173 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,800 Speaker 1: I was like, maybe I go nine months. 1174 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 5: Then I went to a year, and I was like 1175 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 5: when I got to the year mark, I was like, 1176 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 5: I'm good. 1177 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't even need to drink no more, you know. 1178 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: And I think one thing that kind. 1179 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 5: Of that that like brought some insight to me, Like 1180 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 5: health has been like important to me for a while 1181 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,280 Speaker 5: because I knew like a guy that had a triple bypass, 1182 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 5: he was like thirty five. So that started me first 1183 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 5: on my like I need to start correcting stuff with 1184 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 5: myself before it's too late, because the older you get, 1185 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 5: the harder it is to reverse what's going on. So 1186 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 5: that's that started. And then when I was dating my 1187 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 5: partner Jamila, she really pushed me into I think she 1188 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 5: saved my life because she pushed me into getting my 1189 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 5: blood work done and getting lab work done. I found 1190 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 5: out I had inflammation in my gut. Like I knew 1191 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 5: I had inflammation in my gut, but I candida gut 1192 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 5: is the key to a lot of problems in your body, 1193 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 5: So you got to get the I saw the rock 1194 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 5: talking and he said his gut was messed up too, 1195 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,839 Speaker 5: So no healthy bacteria in my gut Candida inflammation. And 1196 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 5: then I found other like markers in my blood work 1197 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 5: that I was like, oh, I gotta. 1198 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: Change this or take this out of my diet. 1199 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 5: So all of that helped me to like hone in 1200 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,439 Speaker 5: on exactly what I needed to do also to get 1201 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 5: my health like more tuned tuned in too. 1202 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 8: I saw you say it was like you came out 1203 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 8: of a like a ah, stop drinking. 1204 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 5: Because if you think about it, I was drinking every weekend, 1205 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 5: so I never fully got over the drinking. 1206 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:08,280 Speaker 1: Like I would drink a bottle of forty two a night, Jesus, Jesus. 1207 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,800 Speaker 1: Like so Friday, Saturday a bottle of forty two. 1208 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 8: Acoholic drinking, but all the nights a whole bottle. 1209 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: Every because I'm doing shots. 1210 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 8: We might do a couple of shots, but we ain't 1211 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:22,919 Speaker 8: doing a whole bottle. 1212 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,839 Speaker 1: I'm the party guy. 1213 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 5: We don't want to drink with me, and I gotta 1214 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 5: drink with everybody. When I turned down the shot, they 1215 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 5: were like, bro, come on, man, yeah, so I gotta 1216 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 5: damn near a bottle of night. So I'm always constantly 1217 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 5: getting over the hangover or the getting My body is 1218 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 5: still trying to recover, so I never am recovering. So 1219 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 5: when you lay off the alcohol, you come out of 1220 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 5: that fog and it's like it's like everything is clearer, everything, 1221 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 5: you know. So I just I like the way that felt. 1222 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 5: And then you know, when I started working out, like 1223 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 5: I can work out like. 1224 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: You can't work out when you hungover. 1225 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 5: And then you put an alcohol in your body that's 1226 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,920 Speaker 5: sugar that's that's not gonna help you get the goals. 1227 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,280 Speaker 6: So if you write a book, you know it should 1228 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 6: be to have a chapter turned down for what and 1229 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,319 Speaker 6: you talk about exactly all the reasons why you ask 1230 00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 6: your turn down. 1231 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, especially especially when you get in your up there 1232 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 5: in the years, you know, because right I'm fifty three, 1233 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 5: I'm going down the hill, you know what I mean. 1234 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 5: I want to have That's another thing. At my fifties, 1235 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 5: I was like, I'm over that top. I don't know 1236 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,959 Speaker 5: how much time I got. I want to enjoy my life. 1237 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 5: I want to enjoy my life. I want to do 1238 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 5: stuff that makes me happy. 1239 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 6: Do you think people truly understand the loneliness that can 1240 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 6: come with success and entertainment. 1241 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: No, because they just see the private jets and the 1242 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: trips and all that. They don't realize. 1243 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 5: You know, sometimes you can't go nowhere because people bugging you. 1244 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 5: You can't spend time with your loved ones without people 1245 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 5: bugging you, or the the I gotta make another hit record, 1246 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like or even when you 1247 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 5: start to go down, you're not as hot as you were. 1248 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 5: People not picking up the phone and all that. Yeah, 1249 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 5: it's a lot of most people couldn't deal with this life. 1250 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 5: It could not deal with it because there's too much 1251 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 5: pressure then people on the internet with all their opinions 1252 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 5: and all of this and that, and it's a lot 1253 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 5: of pressure that you cannot be built weak to be 1254 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 5: in entertainment industry. 1255 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 6: So yes, sir, when you my last question, when you 1256 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 6: think about legacy, now, how much of it is about 1257 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 6: peace and purpose rather than I guess the plaques and 1258 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 6: the parties and all that. 1259 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 5: I think my legacy is going to be all about 1260 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 5: positivity because every step of the way it's been crunk 1261 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 5: was positive. It was a positive release. Then now EDM 1262 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 5: stuff was positive, positive part It was all partying based initially. 1263 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 5: But it wasn't like I was saying go do a 1264 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 5: drive by on the ops, you know what I mean. 1265 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: It was just like, hey, go release turn up, you know. 1266 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 5: And then you know, now in my latter years, it's meditation, mindfulness, 1267 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 5: get therapy, fellas, I'm gonna tell everybody out there, get therapy, 1268 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 5: get a therapy. 1269 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 1: If it's going through it. 1270 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 5: You should not be left to your own devices to 1271 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 5: deal with some serious issues. Sometimes you need to talk 1272 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 5: to someone that's a qualified person. 1273 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:25,840 Speaker 1: And I did em DR. 1274 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 3: Did you ever do MDR? 1275 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 5: EMDR is amazing because it taps into your subconscious. When 1276 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 5: I did em DR, stuff came out that I didn't 1277 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 5: even really didn't know what's there. So it can tap 1278 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 5: to the it can find the root of why you 1279 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 5: got that trauma. 1280 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: And then like, so, yeah, I have not done any 1281 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: of that yet. 1282 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 5: I don't want to do it. I'm thinking about it, 1283 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 5: but I don't want to. I don't want it to 1284 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 5: change me. It won't because I just feel like I'm 1285 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 5: already at a certain place. But I do want to 1286 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 5: go tap into those things that I have locked deep, 1287 00:59:59,360 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 5: deep deep. 1288 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 3: A lot of people who done E. 1289 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,960 Speaker 6: D and MAR tell me that the iaching experience is 1290 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 6: pretty similar because it's just everything that is in your 1291 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 6: subconscious that you suppressed. 1292 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 3: God is like, no, look at it. Yeah, it's all 1293 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 3: on the table, that scary feeling, that stuff. 1294 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 1: No, it's just it's profound. 1295 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 5: Em DR is profound because it's like that's why I 1296 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 5: act like that, or that's why my mother treated me that. 1297 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Way, or this is why that happened. 1298 01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 5: It helps you and then like em DR, Like when 1299 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 5: I did it recently, I was able to go to 1300 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 5: my childhood self and think it's okay, I'm here, it's fine, 1301 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 5: You're you're loved, you're appreciated, you know, all of that. 1302 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 5: And it helped me to get past whatever that was. 1303 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,960 Speaker 5: So that's why I like it, because it's stuff that, 1304 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 5: you know, because I was kind of not worced, but 1305 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 5: I was like, someone was like, you should you know, go, 1306 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 5: you should try it, you know, because it helped them, 1307 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,160 Speaker 5: and I did it and I was like. 1308 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 1: Man, I'm good. I don't need this. And then I 1309 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: was like, damn, it's like I did not know that. 1310 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 5: And the more you do it, the more stuff comes 1311 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 5: to you, and you just realize this is. 1312 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 1: Why I'm the way I am. 1313 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 5: I can now get past this and I can change 1314 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 5: these habits, you know, and I can be living more. 1315 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,919 Speaker 1: I can live a better life. Wow. 1316 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 6: Man, little John, you are an icon and one of 1317 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 6: the greatest producers of all time. You bought people so 1318 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 6: much joy. In this next chapter of your life where 1319 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 6: you are helping people heal, I think it's gonna be 1320 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 6: your best work yet. 1321 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 1: Brother. I do too. I do to. 1322 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 5: It feels so good when people come to me and 1323 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 5: say you help me, you know, without me even directly 1324 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 5: doing anything for them. 1325 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm helping so many people and inspiring people. 1326 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 5: Like with the with the fitness journey, with the you know, 1327 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 5: the bodybuilding thing. Coming in third in this competition. I 1328 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 5: it was just it was hard to just do it period. 1329 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,000 Speaker 5: It was hard to just even get there. And I 1330 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 5: was just happy to be a part of it. And 1331 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 5: I just want to inspire people to say that that 1332 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 5: say I can't work out, I don't have time. I'm 1333 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,320 Speaker 5: on the road, I'm a new father, I'm in the studio, 1334 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 5: I'm doing a million things, and I'm able to go 1335 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 5: to the gym and transform my body, eat right, do 1336 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 5: all these things so. 1337 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 1: You can do it too. 1338 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 6: Billy Blanks Man, you can do you training hit training 1339 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 6: where it's your music playlist, all the crunk music going 1340 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 6: body by John. 1341 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 1: I love it, Okay, help me out with it. Solon Man, 1342 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: Oh no, I love it. Inspire. 1343 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 4: There you go, well, Little John, we appreciate you for 1344 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,560 Speaker 4: joining us. And also December eighteenth, you're performing for our 1345 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 4: assister station. 1346 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,400 Speaker 1: Shingle jingle Ball. 1347 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 4: So what what should do people expect for Little John 1348 01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 4: in that show trunk period? 1349 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,160 Speaker 1: They want it because it says Little John and friends, 1350 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 1: it's krunk Crunk. 1351 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 5: And friendsunk crunk, you know commercial just it's Atlanta and 1352 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 5: I gotta hit them hard. You know, Jermaine talking crap 1353 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 5: like but Jamaine my best family. Jermaine actually called me, 1354 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 5: was like, who you're bringing out? 1355 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I got friends friends. 1356 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 5: So but I'm just gonna bring the crunk. That's what 1357 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 5: That's what they want. That's what I'm gonna give them. 1358 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 5: That's what they ain't seen in the wild, So that's 1359 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 5: what I'm giving them. I ain't trying to do nothing 1360 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 5: crazy crunk excited. 1361 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 3: Could that error ever come back? 1362 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 6: Like the way metro Booman just did futuristic some Could 1363 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 6: that crunk era ever come back? 1364 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 1: If it did, it'll I don't know if people can 1365 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 1: handle it. 1366 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 3: I think we need like grown people who don't get 1367 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 3: the release. 1368 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1369 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 3: Maybe you have something you put everybody, everybody put their 1370 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 3: phones up. 1371 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 2: But you don't heal the same way. 1372 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 6: You can't be. 1373 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 8: And I don't know how to sprinkle down to the yns, 1374 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 8: Like how would they don't need sprinkle? 1375 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 7: Think that krunk could be recreated, But I'm glad that 1376 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 7: we do have these crunk classics that will never die, 1377 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,920 Speaker 7: so I don't think it could come back. 1378 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 5: Maybe I do something next year, Maybe I do, like 1379 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 5: why not you know Metro did? 1380 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: Maybe why not? I was talking about it. But it's 1381 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 1: just got to be the right. 1382 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 5: Everything with me is the right time, you know, when 1383 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 5: the universe tell me it's time for it, that's when 1384 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 5: it happens. 1385 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 4: All right, Well ninety six point one, get your tickets. 1386 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 4: He will be performing at the Atlanti's Jingle Ball. Can't 1387 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 4: wait to see you, guys. It's the Breakfast Club. 1388 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 2: Good morning, every day, Breakfast Club. 1389 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: Finish for y'all. 1390 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 7: Done,