WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Wednesday Hour Four

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Katie or or anybody can answer this question. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>know who Keith Jarrett is? Mm? Hmm, I know the name,

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<v Speaker 3>which is where I was about a week ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I'm Jarrett.

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<v Speaker 3>I like all kinds of music, like there is on

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<v Speaker 3>a song by song basis. There is no genre I

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<v Speaker 3>don't like really except for metal. I just have never

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<v Speaker 3>been able to get in any metal. But other than that,

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<v Speaker 3>every genre there are songs I like and songs I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>With songs thought, and so I'm like really into learning

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<v Speaker 3>to play the piano the last couple of years, and

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<v Speaker 3>I watch a lot of videos about piano, and some

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<v Speaker 3>guys I like were doing an all time Greatest Pianist's

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<v Speaker 3>list the other day. Who are the goats? Are you

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<v Speaker 3>familiar that people now refer to goats as plural? It's

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<v Speaker 3>a plural, It's not it's not. No, no, No, that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work at all. Sorry, you're wrong. Apparently I'm wrong too.

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<v Speaker 3>I've just become aware enough times. Now you name goats,

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<v Speaker 3>these three are the goats, the greatest of all time? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get it, but that's the way people refer

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<v Speaker 3>to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Think what Honestly, although that is silly, you know, grammatically speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>I much prefer that who's the greatest guitar player? That's

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<v Speaker 2>an idiotic question. So now you say, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to name a bunch of people are on the very

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<v Speaker 2>top tier. Great, that's what people mean when they say goat.

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<v Speaker 2>Now anyway, one of the goats was this Keith Jarrett

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<v Speaker 2>piano player who I had heard of, but like I'd

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<v Speaker 2>tried to listen to before and couldn't get into. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I just wasn't ready for it yet. Sometimes that is

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<v Speaker 2>the case with music.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not ready for it yet for a variety of reasons,

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<v Speaker 3>fairly complex. Is this like is this a new artist

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<v Speaker 3>or is this no? OK, he's still alive. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>perform anymore because he had some strokes and can't play

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<v Speaker 3>the piano anymore, but he is considered among jazz musicians

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<v Speaker 3>like one of the top rick Beato, the music producer,

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<v Speaker 3>has got a YouTube video that millions of people have

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<v Speaker 3>watched an interview with Keith Jarrett and calls him one

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<v Speaker 3>of the great music composers of the last century at least.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's just an absolute genius, and a genius

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<v Speaker 3>in the fact that most of his famous albums are

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<v Speaker 3>completely improvised. That was his thing. He walks into a

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<v Speaker 3>stadium and the feel of the piano, the crowd, the room,

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<v Speaker 3>the day, he just makes it up, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>four songs, oh he plays. And he even says that

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<v Speaker 3>like if he has an idea, he discounts it. He

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't want to have an idea before he goes out there.

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<v Speaker 3>He just wants to feel at as he goes. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's just okay, start you to hear some if that

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<v Speaker 3>were me, So go ahead and start the song, Michael,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm going to talk about it over this. And

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<v Speaker 3>so one of the recommendations I was looking up to

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<v Speaker 3>some of the best Keith Jarrett stuff, and one of

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<v Speaker 3>the recommendations was this song. It's from live Bordeaux concert Live.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of his famous stuff is live, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>all improvised, crank it up enough that we can hear.

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<v Speaker 2>This is part one. Where does the singing start?

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<v Speaker 3>There's no singing against instrumental. This is part three. There's

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<v Speaker 3>just four parts. Like I said, he's improvising it. So

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<v Speaker 3>he just does four songs ranging from four to fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>minutes long, just however long he's feeling it. Crowd goes wild.

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<v Speaker 3>If the crowd reacts poorly, he yells at them. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a very touchy artists sort of person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where do you get off?

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<v Speaker 3>There a drum solo? There's no drum solo, and you

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<v Speaker 3>good crank it up because this is what's interesting. So

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<v Speaker 3>I became obsessed with this song on Sundays after the Grammy's.

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<v Speaker 3>Interestingly enough, I became aware of it and I listened

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<v Speaker 3>to the whole thing while I was walking the dog,

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<v Speaker 3>and it hit me in a way like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>remember the last time a song has hit me like this.

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<v Speaker 3>And I probably listened to it ten times that night,

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<v Speaker 3>including in bed with my headphones on while I was

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<v Speaker 3>falling asleep, maybe ten times the next day in the rain.

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<v Speaker 3>I send it to some people. It's just it affected

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<v Speaker 3>me in so much in.

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<v Speaker 2>Such a way.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm getting to the punchline that you're gonna find

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<v Speaker 3>quite hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy on this song affecting me so much.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, man, this isn't really like even my sort

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<v Speaker 3>of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just so.

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<v Speaker 3>And it gets slightly more complex. I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>very pretty sweet piano music. It's four minutes here, let

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<v Speaker 3>me read this. So I started doing a little research

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<v Speaker 3>on famous Keith Jarrett albums, and this album has four

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<v Speaker 3>and five stars from all your big jazz magazines and

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<v Speaker 3>top reviewer of all time and that sort of stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and particularly this song. Here's one of the reviews for

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<v Speaker 3>this song from McSweeney's. It's one of the most respected

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<v Speaker 3>jazz critics of all time. A note for divorced Dads

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<v Speaker 3>on Keith Jarrett's Bordeaux Concert Part three, And I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>what what one would have a difficult time finding a

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<v Speaker 3>musical composition that better suits the emotions of a recently

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<v Speaker 3>divorced dad than Keith Jarrett's Bordeaux Concert Part three. If

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<v Speaker 3>I happened upon a divorced dad driving around looking for

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<v Speaker 3>coffee in his twenty eighteen Ford f one fifty or something,

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<v Speaker 3>I would stop him and play it for him.

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<v Speaker 2>It gives me.

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<v Speaker 3>Goosebumps actually reading this. This is free key as a

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<v Speaker 3>guy who drove a twenty fifteen for one fifty. The

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<v Speaker 3>entirety of the piece is four minutes and four seconds.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot think of a reason why a recently divorced

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<v Speaker 3>dad couldn't find that kind of time. Once the divorce,

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<v Speaker 3>Dad and I have and understanding we would venture into it.

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<v Speaker 3>The composition, it begins with the stable rolling chords that

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<v Speaker 3>gently root the piece, drawing up imagery of a young

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<v Speaker 3>couple holding hands in a tall grass. They're one entity.

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<v Speaker 3>Is zeygeite of relationship. And it goes on and on

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<v Speaker 3>like this through the whole relationship, falling in love, being

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<v Speaker 3>in love, deciding to have kids, having kids, it becoming difficult,

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<v Speaker 3>and falling apart, the divorce happening, you trying to raise

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<v Speaker 3>your kids on your own. At the end of this song,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he ends actually with now go pick up

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<v Speaker 3>your kid from karate practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is freaking me out.

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<v Speaker 3>Turn it out just a little bit, Michael, because now

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're into the You realize you're divorced and

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<v Speaker 3>you're raising your kids on your own.

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<v Speaker 2>Part. Yes, I don't know, now did Keith Jarrett say

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<v Speaker 2>any of this or this is just the reviewer figuring

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote figuring this out.

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<v Speaker 3>This is one of the weenies. This is one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most famous jazz reviewers of all time. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>way he interpreted this music and me as a recently

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<v Speaker 3>divorced dad laying in bed listening to it ten times

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<v Speaker 3>in a row because it touched me in a way

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember music ever touching me. What the hell

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<v Speaker 3>is that is weird? Well, it is weird. Holy smuff,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, isn't that strange?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, you got anything for angsty empty nesters? I

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<v Speaker 2>like to play golf? Yeah, yeah, Wow, Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>What a trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that strange? Though? Yeah, I mean that's that's beyond strange.

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<v Speaker 2>That's uh does he ex well? I guess he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of sort of explains why, but not no way that

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<v Speaker 2>I would find terribly compelling if I came across it

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere else in any other context. I think, well, wait

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, there are a lot of, you know, trips

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<v Speaker 2>people go through in their lives that maybe start like

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<v Speaker 2>super exciting, promising, then get kind of rocky, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you've just got to make the most of it and

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<v Speaker 2>move on. I mean, there are a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but here.

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<v Speaker 3>We are, well, they're also a million pieces of music

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<v Speaker 3>that are kind of sweet but modling. But you know, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that this well known jazz critic picks out

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<v Speaker 3>one of the most respected jazz pieces in history and

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<v Speaker 3>assigns this particular meaning to it, and then I, not

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<v Speaker 3>knowing that it'd be one thing if i'd read that first,

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<v Speaker 3>but not knowing that at all, get pulled into this

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<v Speaker 3>song in a way I don't. I don't remember the

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<v Speaker 3>last time I've been pulled into a song where I

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<v Speaker 3>listened to it that many times in a row, if ever,

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<v Speaker 3>in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>It's amazing how different music works. That's how you felt

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<v Speaker 4>with that, And I felt like I was on hold

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<v Speaker 4>waiting for a prescription from like CVS.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree in any other context, I would have been

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<v Speaker 3>the same way, and I probably would have listened to

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<v Speaker 3>like a minute and thought for me and gone to

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<v Speaker 3>the next song. And it makes me question my understanding

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, abstract art and stuff like that. When

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<v Speaker 3>I look at a piece of art in a walm thing,

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<v Speaker 3>she's my three year old could do that. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean anything because that music.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I'm into that.

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<v Speaker 3>Normally that kind of music, well, I agree with Hitler,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's a ruse, But that kind of music usually,

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<v Speaker 3>I think is just kind of meandering, and I understand

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<v Speaker 3>some people like it, but it's not really my bag.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that it had such a specific the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that he even mentions a yes, okay, So here's here's

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<v Speaker 3>the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously we're we're sitting here, you know, rolling around in

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<v Speaker 2>the wonder of it. We need to know more about this,

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<v Speaker 2>this guru, this sage, this omniscient McSweeney person. What the

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<v Speaker 2>hell's going on there? What sort of psychic witchery is

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<v Speaker 2>is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Does he have that ability with all songs in art?

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<v Speaker 3>That painting over there, If your cat just got hit

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<v Speaker 3>by a car, that's the perfect painting.

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<v Speaker 2>As you're sitting there thinking of little Fluffy and admiring

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<v Speaker 2>the brushstrokes, that's just freaky. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, Well, let me want to go find all of

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite songs and read the reviews on it, just

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<v Speaker 4>to see write anything lines up.

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<v Speaker 3>One would have a difficult time finding a musical composition

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<v Speaker 3>that better suits the emotions of a recently divorced dad.

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<v Speaker 3>If I happened upon a divorced dad driving around looking

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<v Speaker 3>for coffee in his twenty eighteen Ford F one to fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're a coffee addict.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have done that as a I would stopping

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<v Speaker 3>the year wrong, the hack and he left out going

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<v Speaker 3>to get McDonald's on the way home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's sure. That doesn't know anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It's freaky man, laying in bed listening to it in

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<v Speaker 3>my headphones in the dark, moved by music in a

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<v Speaker 3>way maybe I never have been in my life weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I've been trying to think if there's anything that's

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<v Speaker 2>been anything similar, any song or music similar to that,

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<v Speaker 2>And all I can come up with is is I

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<v Speaker 2>discovered an album several years after it was out by

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<v Speaker 2>the band from Indiana called hound Mouth, and the song

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<v Speaker 2>is my Cousin Greg, and the opening line is my

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<v Speaker 2>cousin Greg is a greedy son of a bitch. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm not sure what McSweeney would say about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no cousin Greg who's a greedy son of

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<v Speaker 2>a bitch, so obviously it's not that close a fit.

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<v Speaker 2>That's freaky, So I don't know what I'm You gotta

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<v Speaker 2>look more into this, McSweeney dude because he's a witch.

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<v Speaker 3>Or following me around. Yeah, that'd be my guess. Although

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<v Speaker 3>he wrote this years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Well right, that's weird, man, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I brought it to the podcast. I just

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<v Speaker 3>thought this is too effing freaky. Next time, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>show a slow saxophone solo that expresses the feelings of

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<v Speaker 3>a man is broken TV and no extended warranty.

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<v Speaker 1>your show podcasts and our hot lakes.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, we're Armstrong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast one

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<v Speaker 3>more thing. Find it wherever you find all your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Turning to a new pole, gen Z doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>go out to the bars and scream at each other

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<v Speaker 2>over loud music or fifty thousand other people. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>like sometimes having a conversations, they'd rather sit around at

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<v Speaker 2>home and have a drink or two with their friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Why did it take until gen Z to figure that out?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, and I don't want to like over.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to dominate the podcast because I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>team player. But I have never even when I was

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<v Speaker 2>young and slightly hip and somewhat popular. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to bars and yell at each other. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>have crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll have to weigh in on this, Katie, because but

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<v Speaker 3>my experience is I was out at the bars a

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<v Speaker 3>lots of times. We're like at a quiet kind of

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<v Speaker 3>bar and everybody talking to say, even o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to go over to the where and.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, why, we're having a perfectly good time here.

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<v Speaker 3>We can hear each other, we're sitting. We're gonna go

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<v Speaker 3>to some place where we're like shuffled around shoulder to shoulders,

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<v Speaker 3>screaming at the top of our lungs, are not talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Why go ahead, Katie.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, I've I went through the phase of every

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<v Speaker 4>weekend at the bars and all of that, and I

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<v Speaker 4>did too for twenty two years.

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<v Speaker 3>So hid for twenty two years.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was it was a solid seven you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and it got exhausting. Now when I go out to

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<v Speaker 4>the bars, it's more of that environment where it's just chilling.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very quiet, some music, but there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of yelling. No, I never never. When I was when

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<v Speaker 3>I was twenty years old, the drinking age was eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>When I went to college, when I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty years old.

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<v Speaker 3>I had no interest in going to the big throbbing

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<v Speaker 3>club and yelling at the person next to me. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>God for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Refrain from saying big throbbing club if you can. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've just I've never had that in me. This golf

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<v Speaker 2>club where I play golf mostly opened up a new

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<v Speaker 2>bar and it's like quiet and classy and set up

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<v Speaker 2>for like conversation areas where four to six people can

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<v Speaker 2>sit and chat and have a drink and all in

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<v Speaker 2>and Judy and I went there and we were like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, this is perfect. And then we ran

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<v Speaker 2>into some friends of ours who really aren't great people,

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<v Speaker 2>but the dude was like, oh my god, did they

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<v Speaker 2>waste that space?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't hate it off. Where are the TVs with

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<v Speaker 2>the play by play going and the energy? We want energy?

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<v Speaker 3>I want no energy, less energy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd bring no energy and I want none thrust upon me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and same way with restaurants. I hope gen Z

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<v Speaker 3>kills loud restaurants. You know whenever. It was in the

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<v Speaker 3>mid nineties that they decided to take all the baffling

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<v Speaker 3>out of the ceilings and have it be open brick

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<v Speaker 3>and pipes, so you can get as much sound reverberating

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<v Speaker 3>as possible. So it's just deafeningly loud, and every clink

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<v Speaker 3>of every glass and fork and the whole place echoes

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<v Speaker 3>in your head. Who loves that?

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<v Speaker 4>Or it's just acceptable to be obnoxiously allowed at the table,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I remember when being in a restaurant, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you had manners and you had to be kind of

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<v Speaker 4>quiet and polite, and then you've got tables next to

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<v Speaker 4>you just screaming and having a pull blown party and

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<v Speaker 4>it's normal now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, speaking of being a team player, obviously we're a

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<v Speaker 2>group of at least somewhat grumpy, somewhat introverted people. But

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<v Speaker 2>some people obviously are energized by that. They like it.

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<v Speaker 2>It gives them more energy. As they say about extroverts

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<v Speaker 2>and introverts. Being around people energizes extroverts and it drains

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<v Speaker 2>the energy from introverts, and it must be that way

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<v Speaker 2>with like loud bars and restaurants and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, but are you arguing that the percentage of people

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<v Speaker 3>that are introverts is higher among gen z or do

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<v Speaker 3>they just wise up to why are we standing in

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<v Speaker 3>this super loud bar? Interesting question, Good lord, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>come close to answering it. Here are the stats.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see bubba A News finds the two and three

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<v Speaker 2>gen z wine enthusiasts, So this people who'd rather drink

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<v Speaker 2>wine for what that's worth. Two out of three out

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<v Speaker 2>for the comfort of their homes when it comes to drinking,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically home. Poll of two thousand American adults between twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one and twenty six found those who enjoy wine, only

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three percent would choose to go to a bar,

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<v Speaker 2>and only eighteen percent would opt for drinking at some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of live event. For gen Z wine enthusiasts, having

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<v Speaker 2>a glass as an opportunity to be social as hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out with friends tops the list of activities they prefer

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<v Speaker 2>up partake in while drinking. But they'd really rather do

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<v Speaker 2>it at home than out anywhere, maybe elause the cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living so high for young people and they're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to save money. That was the other thing, because, especially

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<v Speaker 2>because I was pretty poor when I was young, is

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<v Speaker 2>I could afford like a beer if we went out,

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<v Speaker 2>I could have a couple at home. End of discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that wasn't the right kind of bar. I liked

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<v Speaker 3>the more like the more like people in boots bars

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<v Speaker 3>because that's where I could sidle up to a table

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<v Speaker 3>to girls and they wouldn't notice that I was drinking

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<v Speaker 3>all their picture beer because I couldn't afford to buy beer.

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<v Speaker 3>You're that guy, and well, girls oftentimes get pictures of beer.

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<v Speaker 3>They aren't gonna drink them. They're not really drinkers. They

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<v Speaker 3>just they needed to have it sitting there. It's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a prop. I'll take care of that for you. Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a rarity.

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<v Speaker 2>The judges reporting a ten on resourcefulness, a ten on creepiness,

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<v Speaker 2>and a ten on alcoholism.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a rare triple ten, a perfect score.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>Show, Fancy Armstrong and Getty Show, featuring our podcast. One

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<v Speaker 3>more Thing, We do a new one every day. Find

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<v Speaker 3>it wherever you find your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>What the heck happened? An expert weighs in. It's one

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<v Speaker 2>more thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we get to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Two quick things.

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<v Speaker 1>One.

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<v Speaker 3>I just looked up at the the Twitter machine and

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<v Speaker 3>there is something on there about young people in New

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<v Speaker 3>York talking about how they all got punched in the

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<v Speaker 3>face because of a recent TikTok challenge in which the

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<v Speaker 3>thing was to just walk up and punch people in

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<v Speaker 3>the face, and some of the morons do it. I

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<v Speaker 3>want a TikTok challenge that is, it's the leave your parents' house,

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<v Speaker 3>get a job and support yourself challenge, the follow the law,

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<v Speaker 3>pay your taxes, and raise your kids right challenge. See

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<v Speaker 3>if that catches on, It'll be waiting forever for that. God.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw one the other day where there's a whole

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of iterations of this of like, it's just abusing

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<v Speaker 3>old people, scaring them basically, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just horrific, harsh and draconian penalty act like somebody

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<v Speaker 2>broke into the house for grandma and then and you

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<v Speaker 2>know get her reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because she's an old woman who thinks somebody broke

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<v Speaker 3>into her home. That's why she reacted that way. Why

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<v Speaker 3>is that funny, you freaking moron. You should be in

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<v Speaker 3>jail just for this. You know, it's concerning the people

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<v Speaker 3>who do that and the people who laugh at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, this one was a I guess this

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<v Speaker 3>was a Jackass thing originally from the Jackass movie. I

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<v Speaker 3>saw this on TikTok the other day. It was you

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<v Speaker 3>push a stroller with a baby in it, a fake

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<v Speaker 3>baby at toy the doll doll is the term fake billy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and bother shirt and the like, you know, the stroller

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<v Speaker 3>you accidentally trip and push it into traffic in a

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<v Speaker 3>car hits it or something like that, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>got the reaction of people who are horrified that a

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<v Speaker 3>baby just got ran over. Why is that funny?

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<v Speaker 4>Or you get the people that run out into traffic

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<v Speaker 4>trying to stop it. Right, there's another guy that's going

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<v Speaker 4>he went viral the other day that was going through

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<v Speaker 4>like walmarts and targets and going up to people that

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<v Speaker 4>had full carts, families, I mean everything, and just pulling

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<v Speaker 4>the cart and knocking it over and knocking this stuff

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<v Speaker 4>everywhere and then running away for no reason at all

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<v Speaker 4>than to be a dick.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And then their friends film that and put it

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<v Speaker 3>on TikTok, and then people watch it and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I I well.

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<v Speaker 3>I had them with the algorithm. Is the more attention

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<v Speaker 3>they get, they get paid. I'm glad you're young and

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<v Speaker 3>complaining about this, because when Joe and I complain about this,

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<v Speaker 3>we just sound like you know, old men about modern culture.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is a change in society.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yees, yeah, well you're complaining about it. I'm even

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<v Speaker 2>now sketching out my plan to form a vigilante group

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to find these Internet scoundrels and hunt them

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<v Speaker 2>down and give them some real world ass kickings.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I know what it was. So you take the

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<v Speaker 3>car carrier thing that you put your baby in, like

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<v Speaker 3>when you go into the grocery store, and then come

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<v Speaker 3>back and snap it into the car seat. The person

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<v Speaker 3>puts it on top of the car, It does some

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and then drives off with on top of the car,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you film the reactions of everybody freaking out

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<v Speaker 3>that you drove off with your baby on top of

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<v Speaker 3>your car.

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<v Speaker 4>I do love it New York. There is a hashtag

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<v Speaker 4>I punch back, and there.

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<v Speaker 3>Are a series of videos of people I'll tell you what,

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<v Speaker 3>you come and knock over my cart full of stuff

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<v Speaker 3>with my kids there. I'm gonna have to fight myself

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<v Speaker 3>to not tackle you. And we're rolling.

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<v Speaker 2>Around and find out oh god, damn it. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>Well this is troubling and disturbing in the world is

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<v Speaker 2>ugly and full of evil anyway. So it turns out

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<v Speaker 2>a giant cargo ship took out a bridge in Baltimore

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<v Speaker 2>on the day that we are recording this podcast. The

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<v Speaker 2>death toll is yet on unknown but at a terrible

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<v Speaker 2>disaster and incredibly dramatic video as well. This posted at

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Giddy dot com Tuesday, March twenty sixth Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>got this note.

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<v Speaker 3>From twenty thirty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Very good. I'm speaking to you from the Moon colony

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<v Speaker 2>while Jack remains on Earth. Trump is in his fifteenth term. Finally, finally,

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<v Speaker 2>one party rule, as we dreamed of secretly all those

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<v Speaker 2>years we were talking about the Constitution. So Al the Mariner,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll just call him Al anonymous. I don't think he'd mind,

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<v Speaker 2>but does this sort of thing for a living, big

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<v Speaker 2>ship shipping and has corresponded with us through the years

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<v Speaker 2>whenever something in his realm comes up. And he's quite

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<v Speaker 2>knowledgeable and appreciate the note. But I'll read you parts

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<v Speaker 2>of his email to us. I watched this with my

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<v Speaker 2>captain and cadet. I don't know what a cadet is.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently that's something on a ship, and from what we

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<v Speaker 2>can tell, it looks like they lost the plant the

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<v Speaker 2>ship's power and or propulsion and collided with the northern

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<v Speaker 2>span of the bridge. Yeah, actually twice they lost power.

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<v Speaker 2>She meaning the boat most definitely had at least a

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<v Speaker 2>harbor pilot on board, and may even have had a

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<v Speaker 2>docking pilot on board too. Harbor or bay pilots get

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<v Speaker 2>the ship from the sea buoy to the port, and

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<v Speaker 2>docking pilots park the ship. Driving a conning a ship

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<v Speaker 2>or driving it isn't nearly as simple as most people

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<v Speaker 2>think it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's simple. I mean it's probably really hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh. I thought it was hard, and it's harder than

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<v Speaker 2>I thought. This ship has a bow thruster one, so okay, whoo.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying so hard not to laugh. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to give him the encouragement.

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<v Speaker 3>That was great, Jack, Thank you for that child. God,

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<v Speaker 3>my child is right, my son who's twelve, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he knows what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Drop to. That's what she said on me the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it's popular in school, and I don't think they

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<v Speaker 3>most of them know what they're really talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't see that gives me hope for the

0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 2>next generation. It really does. Were they discussing China on

0:23:53.560 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 2>the playground? Oh, boy. So the ship has a bow

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:01.199
<v Speaker 2>thruster just like Jack, one slow speed diesel engine, and

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 2>one fixed pitch propeller. In order for most of these

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 2>types of ships to reverse propulsion, the engineers first have

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:13.800
<v Speaker 2>to have to unclutch the shaft. I won't, I won't good,

0:24:14.000 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 2>shut down the engine, stop the shaft from spinning, restart

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:23.199
<v Speaker 2>the engine backwards, and clutch in the shaft. These ships

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 2>are built to run most of their lives going forward

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<v Speaker 2>as efficiently as possible, so they are incredibly inefficient trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make way a stern backing up. In a perfect world,

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 2>it would take a few minutes to start backing down. Well,

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:36.399
<v Speaker 2>this isn't a perfect world.

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:39.479
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I didn't know they could start going backwards that fast.

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 3>I figured it took longer than that, longer than what

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<v Speaker 3>a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>No, in a perfect world, it would take a few

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 2>minutes to start backing down. But this is not a

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.239
<v Speaker 2>perfect world. With ships, you can't just put it in

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.919
<v Speaker 2>reverse first. You are trying to take off tens of

0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 2>thousands of laws long tons of momentum. It's a term

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm completely unfamiliar with. With the added delay of the

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 2>plant going through its process of getting the stern bell going.

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 2>So for the most part, mariners have to maneuver their

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<v Speaker 2>way out of an open moment. If you don't have power,

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 2>you can't move the hydraulics involved with the rudder to

0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 2>push your stern. Over most cargoes, vessel pivot point is

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 2>a third of the ship's length from the bow to

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<v Speaker 2>the so even if we are able to start a turn,

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 2>the ship may still have hit the bridge on the

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:33.199
<v Speaker 2>side of the vessel like a glancing blow. Also, with

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 2>a fixed pitch prop, you will back up the opposite

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 2>side your screw pins. Oh back up to the opposite

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 2>side your screwpins. For example, if your prop spins clockwise

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 2>going forward, this is called the right handed propeller. Well,

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to back up, your stern will get pushed

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>to the left. Then he goes into how the rudder works.

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 2>But the point is it is a nightmare to maneuver

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 2>these things, and you've got to be extremely good at

0:25:56.800 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 2>it because there's so much energy, that much weight in motion.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I know you're seafaring people, Katie. Your dad has

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<v Speaker 3>a boat and everything, But if you've ever driven a

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.439
<v Speaker 3>boat at all, you know how difficult it can be

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 3>to you know, go a certain direction or stop from

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:18.880
<v Speaker 3>going a certain direction if you miscalculate.

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, and everything takes extra time. There is no

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 4>immediate maneuver on anything on the water.

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.719
<v Speaker 3>And then so our Joe and I's friend Dave, who

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 3>lives on a boat down San Diego. Last time I

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 3>was with him, I guess it was last Friday, fourth

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 3>of July. So we're on his boat and we come

0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 3>back and he lost motors. He lost one of his motors,

0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:38.480
<v Speaker 3>so he lost the motor on one side, so he

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:42.479
<v Speaker 3>could only navigate one direction. And man, we ended up

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 3>having a bad thing happen. But we were all on

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:47.640
<v Speaker 3>one side of boat trying to keep us from smashing

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 3>into all these other boats and smashing his boat up

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 3>against the poles because once you start drifting, and he

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 3>got no motors, like that guy was talking about, if

0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.679
<v Speaker 3>you've got no power, you're just going the direction you

0:26:58.720 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 3>were going.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I don't know if you guys saw that

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 4>video where it's sped up where you can see where

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.360
<v Speaker 4>this ship is heading towards the bridge.

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:08.919
<v Speaker 3>I mean the power goes out twice.

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 4>So they're clearly having some big issues, let alone trying

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 4>to maneuver this thing.

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, And I'll get to that in just a second,

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 2>but he points out the description of how the rudder

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.119
<v Speaker 2>works that and anybody who has a boat knows this.

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:24.360
<v Speaker 2>You can't turn a boat that isn't moving right. It's

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 2>got to be moving to turn, and if you need

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>it to turn quickly, it needs to be going fast.

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.199
<v Speaker 3>If you've driven on snow or ice, you know this

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 3>phenomenon also, right.

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, so they had that problem, and it takes

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 2>a long damn time to move a ship like that significantly,

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 2>especially at the speeds they were going. Then he says,

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 2>all of that being said, the loss of power adds

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 2>a massive delay to try to make any corrective action.

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 2>In the video you can see the lights cut off

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 2>and back on again. We timed it. It took well

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 2>over a minute to get power back on. The regulations

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 2>say that the emergency diesel generators should only take it

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.880
<v Speaker 2>most forty five seconds to store power to the emergency systems.

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that reminds me of the text we got that

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 3>said I didn't know Boeing made ships now huh.

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, uh. With this, you'll probably hear why didn't

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 2>they just drop an anchor? Well, it doesn't work like

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 2>that in the movie Battleship or Contraband. In order for

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 2>the flukes of modern anchors to fetch up, you have

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 2>to be going almost one knot. I had a captain

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 2>tell me one time, never run aground with two anchors

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>on board. They don't do. But it makes it looks

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>like you tried everything. Oh okay, so that.

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 3>Such just First of all, I didn't think of the

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:35.879
<v Speaker 3>anchor thing. If I'd thought of it, I would have

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 3>said that myself. Why didn't they drop the anchor? But

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 3>don't run aground without having dropped both anchors, or at

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 3>least it looks like you tried.

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:48.959
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Wow. Things like this can have a number of

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 2>things go wrong, ranging from misjudgment from the pilot, of

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>miscommunication between the pilot and captain, or a mistake in

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 2>the engine room that caused a loss of power and

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>or propulsion. Shoot, it could be all three. I highly

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 2>recoon keeping an eye on the YouTube channel what is

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 2>going on with shipping. The guy there does a great

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 2>job at explaining maritime and navy stuff, and he'll break

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 2>this down as soon as he has info.

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 3>So these great big giant tanker ships that got all

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 3>those containers on them and railroad cars and stuff like that,

0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 3>or trailers for semis. I mean that gives you the perspective.

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 3>It's the only way you can get any perspective on

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 3>these things. As they're sitting out in the ocean with

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 3>nothing next to them. You look at those things and think,

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 3>he's one of those is like a train car or

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 3>a container or whatever it is. Yeah, and you think,

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, that's a giant ship.

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:30.560 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 3>But remember so we were at a port in West

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Sacramento where they ship lots of rice in and out

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 3>from around the world. Remember that guy telling us stories

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 3>about those giant ships that come in and there aren't

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 3>very many people on those ships, and how weird.

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 2>They all were.

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that story, I do you've ever heard this, Katie before.

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 3>But they're out there for months, and a lot of

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 3>people that work on these ships are very strange people.

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 3>Because you're somebody that wants to be on a ship

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 3>with northern he human beings and like no entertainment or

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 3>anything like that for months by yourself down in the

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 3>dark of a ship's people.

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>These guys, uh don't even have visus, so they can't

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 2>come off the ship. So they'll dock in the US

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 2>or dock in some port. That sounds interesting. They're not

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>allowed to get off the ship.

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 3>They just stay in their dark ship. Yeah, that special

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 3>kind of personality for that job.

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Right, I was Frank, Right, wasn't that his name?

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>That was super interesting though.

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And whenever I see those ships, that's what I

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 3>think of. Now, got some really strange mole people living

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 3>on that ship.

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Romanian mole people must not be allowed off.

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 4>It comes out of my mouth every time we go

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 4>on the boat with my family, because we'll go out

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 4>of the estuary and we're down on the sea level

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 4>looking up at those things, and I'm always like, how

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 4>do those how do they float?

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Right? Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, there're you know, some terms

0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>are overused. They are quite literally breasttaking to sea from

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>anywhere close to them.

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, they displaced more than the weight of the water

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 3>technically is how they float. But that's hard to imagine

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 3>that that even happened.

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they what Oh.

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Keep your shaft oiled?

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Ya am right? An right? Wow? And a clip from shaft.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was just all sorts of interfer It was

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of texts before we get to Joe. Why

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Joe hates Canadians.

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I do not hate Canadians. But that's what you said.

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 3>No, I wasn't paying attention. I have to share this,

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 3>says a texture. I took my six year old granddaughter

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 3>to San Francisco. While we're walking to lunch, a group

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 3>of men rode by in their bikes, absolutely naked. My

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 3>granddaughter said, Nana, who is running this place out of

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 3>the mouth of babes?

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Yep, oh wow.

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Sort of thing you will see in San Francisco, completely

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 3>naked men on bicycles, And some people think that's wonderful

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 3>for some reason, that that's like progress for some reason,

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 3>I'll ever understand.

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>A bunch of twist Tooids.

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Also mentioned at the end of the radio show on

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 3>the twenty first that it was my birthday and for

0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 3>some reason, I've never cared less about my birthday than now.

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not exactly sure if it's wisdom and maturity

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 3>or depression and I've lost the ability to enjoy life.

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 3>But we did get this text your birthday. Everyone has one.

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 3>You're not special.

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Geez, wow, thank you for that. All right, That's that's

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:48.959
<v Speaker 2>a person I really pity. Yeah, imagine being that unhappy.

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 3>I just I don't even know. I don't even know.

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 3>When I see that sort of stuff on social media

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 3>and you see a lot, it's always like, wow, first

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 3>of all, Jack, happy birthday. Second of all that pero,

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 3>there you go.

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that has nothing to do with you, obviously, I

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 2>know you know that Jack. No, no, no, no, boy,

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>that's that's entirely about that person.

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 3>When I come across that stuff on social media. Really,

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 3>honest to God, the thing I think is I need

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 3>to make sure my kids don't end up like that,

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 3>to where they're so miserable at the with the lure

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 3>lives that they have to strike out at anything that

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 3>might be pleasant or happy for someone to get through

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 3>the day.

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jesus, it's so awful.

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 4>Or someone that that maybe isn't so miserable that they

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 4>do that, but does it for joy?

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 2>You know there are those.

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 4>People that that, I mean, you see them all over

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 4>the Internet that create these accounts just to troll people

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 4>because they enjoy it.

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 3>I've only known I've only I've only personally known two trolls,

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 3>but they both had the same attitude. So I'm just

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 3>assuming that that's kind of common among the troll community.

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 3>They really get such enjoyment of there's somebody happy. I'm

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 3>gonna try to take some of that. And it's just

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 3>think it's so weird. I've never had that feeling. You know, somebody,

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 3>somebody's a sickness, somebody got somebody got a new car,

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 3>and I say, I heard they suck or just something

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 3>like that.

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 2>What what is that like? Why? Well, as I've always said,

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 2>people who are too dopey or lazy to build things,

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 2>the only satisfaction they get is from breaking things. And

0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:24.760
<v Speaker 2>again that's pathetic.

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like the person who vandalizes the playground equipment.

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's the same sort of thing.

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 2>It's just awful. The only effect they will ever have

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 2>on the world before they are dead is to break

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<v Speaker 2>things and hurt people, So that's what they do. And

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<v Speaker 2>and again it's it's just painfully pathetic. What is a

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<v Speaker 2>birthday dinner for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Well, I'm gonna go eat steak tonight and some

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<v Speaker 3>sort of ill advised dessert. Be my guess, it's more

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<v Speaker 3>from my kids than me. I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 3>would even leave the house tonight if it birthday. Bang

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<v Speaker 3>bang Oh boy, that sounds like a challenge. Steak five pushups,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the that's the deal. A bang bang is back

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<v Speaker 3>to back meals of completely different kinds. So what do

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<v Speaker 3>I follow steak with pizza? Stop and get a pizza?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, steak is a dense, dense first blow.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna leave a mark.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah wow. Following up steak something completely different, nice uh

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<v Speaker 2>Ramen restaurant or something that's a little hipster for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe Italian though in the noodle the noodle realm.

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<v Speaker 2>Well right, let's go Raman adjacent I like the spaghetti

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<v Speaker 2>and meatballs. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I did an accidental bang bang with my brother when

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<v Speaker 3>he was in town when I had cancer. We ate

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<v Speaker 3>a pizza not knowing my wife was making dinner, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we got home and she had made a big dinner,

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<v Speaker 3>like a big homemade dinner because my brother was in town,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you can't, you know, so she colums the

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<v Speaker 3>word We had stuffed ourselves with pizza, but then brought

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<v Speaker 3>it hard for that homemade dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, well, wait, a man up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I commend you for that. It's just the polite

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<v Speaker 3>thing to this

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and getty