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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong, and Jetty and He.

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Speaker 3: Katie or or anybody can answer this question. Do you

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Speaker 3: know who Keith Jarrett is? Mm? Hmm, I know the name,

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Speaker 3: which is where I was about a week ago.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm Jarrett.

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Speaker 3: I like all kinds of music, like there is on

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Speaker 3: a song by song basis. There is no genre I

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Speaker 3: don't like really except for metal. I just have never

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Speaker 3: been able to get in any metal. But other than that,

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Speaker 3: every genre there are songs I like and songs I don't.

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Speaker 3: With songs thought, and so I'm like really into learning

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Speaker 3: to play the piano the last couple of years, and

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Speaker 3: I watch a lot of videos about piano, and some

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Speaker 3: guys I like were doing an all time Greatest Pianist's

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Speaker 3: list the other day. Who are the goats? Are you

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Speaker 3: familiar that people now refer to goats as plural? It's

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Speaker 3: a plural, It's not it's not. No, no, No, that

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Speaker 3: doesn't work at all. Sorry, you're wrong. Apparently I'm wrong too.

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Speaker 3: I've just become aware enough times. Now you name goats,

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Speaker 3: these three are the goats, the greatest of all time? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't get it, but that's the way people refer

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Speaker 3: to it.

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Speaker 2: Think what Honestly, although that is silly, you know, grammatically speaking,

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Speaker 2: I much prefer that who's the greatest guitar player? That's

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Speaker 2: an idiotic question. So now you say, if you want

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Speaker 2: to name a bunch of people are on the very

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Speaker 2: top tier. Great, that's what people mean when they say goat.

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Speaker 2: Now anyway, one of the goats was this Keith Jarrett

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Speaker 2: piano player who I had heard of, but like I'd

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Speaker 2: tried to listen to before and couldn't get into. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I just wasn't ready for it yet. Sometimes that is

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Speaker 2: the case with music.

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Speaker 3: You're not ready for it yet for a variety of reasons,

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Speaker 3: fairly complex. Is this like is this a new artist

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Speaker 3: or is this no? OK, he's still alive. He doesn't

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Speaker 3: perform anymore because he had some strokes and can't play

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Speaker 3: the piano anymore, but he is considered among jazz musicians

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Speaker 3: like one of the top rick Beato, the music producer,

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Speaker 3: has got a YouTube video that millions of people have

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Speaker 3: watched an interview with Keith Jarrett and calls him one

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Speaker 3: of the great music composers of the last century at least.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's just an absolute genius, and a genius

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Speaker 3: in the fact that most of his famous albums are

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Speaker 3: completely improvised. That was his thing. He walks into a

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Speaker 3: stadium and the feel of the piano, the crowd, the room,

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Speaker 3: the day, he just makes it up, you know, like

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Speaker 3: four songs, oh he plays. And he even says that

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Speaker 3: like if he has an idea, he discounts it. He

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Speaker 3: doesn't want to have an idea before he goes out there.

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Speaker 3: He just wants to feel at as he goes. And

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Speaker 3: it's just okay, start you to hear some if that

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Speaker 3: were me, So go ahead and start the song, Michael,

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Speaker 3: because I'm going to talk about it over this. And

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Speaker 3: so one of the recommendations I was looking up to

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Speaker 3: some of the best Keith Jarrett stuff, and one of

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Speaker 3: the recommendations was this song. It's from live Bordeaux concert Live.

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Speaker 3: Most of his famous stuff is live, Like I said,

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Speaker 3: all improvised, crank it up enough that we can hear.

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Speaker 2: This is part one. Where does the singing start?

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Speaker 3: There's no singing against instrumental. This is part three. There's

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Speaker 3: just four parts. Like I said, he's improvising it. So

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Speaker 3: he just does four songs ranging from four to fifteen

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Speaker 3: minutes long, just however long he's feeling it. Crowd goes wild.

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Speaker 3: If the crowd reacts poorly, he yells at them. It's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you get off?

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Speaker 3: There a drum solo? There's no drum solo, and you

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Speaker 3: good crank it up because this is what's interesting. So

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Speaker 3: I became obsessed with this song on Sundays after the Grammy's.

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Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, I became aware of it and I listened

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Speaker 3: to the whole thing while I was walking the dog,

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Speaker 3: And I probably listened to it ten times that night,

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Speaker 3: I send it to some people. It's just it affected

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Speaker 2: Such a way.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm getting to the punchline that you're gonna find

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Speaker 2: Oh boy on this song affecting me so much.

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Speaker 3: It's like, man, this isn't really like even my sort

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so.

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Speaker 3: And it gets slightly more complex. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 3: very pretty sweet piano music. It's four minutes here, let

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Speaker 3: me read this. So I started doing a little research

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Speaker 3: on famous Keith Jarrett albums, and this album has four

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Speaker 3: and five stars from all your big jazz magazines and

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Speaker 3: top reviewer of all time and that sort of stuff,

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Speaker 3: and particularly this song. Here's one of the reviews for

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Speaker 3: this song from McSweeney's. It's one of the most respected

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Speaker 3: jazz critics of all time. A note for divorced Dads

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Speaker 3: on Keith Jarrett's Bordeaux Concert Part three, And I thought,

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Speaker 3: what what one would have a difficult time finding a

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Speaker 3: musical composition that better suits the emotions of a recently

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Speaker 3: divorced dad than Keith Jarrett's Bordeaux Concert Part three. If

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Speaker 3: I happened upon a divorced dad driving around looking for

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Speaker 3: I would stop him and play it for him.

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Speaker 3: Goosebumps actually reading this. This is free key as a

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Speaker 3: I cannot think of a reason why a recently divorced

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Speaker 3: Dad and I have and understanding we would venture into it.

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Speaker 3: The composition, it begins with the stable rolling chords that

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Speaker 3: gently root the piece, drawing up imagery of a young

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Speaker 3: couple holding hands in a tall grass. They're one entity.

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Speaker 3: Is zeygeite of relationship. And it goes on and on

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Speaker 3: like this through the whole relationship, falling in love, being

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Speaker 3: your kids on your own. At the end of this song,

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Speaker 3: and then he ends actually with now go pick up

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Speaker 2: Now this is freaking me out.

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Speaker 3: Turn it out just a little bit, Michael, because now

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Speaker 3: I think we're into the You realize you're divorced and

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Speaker 2: Part. Yes, I don't know, now did Keith Jarrett say

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Speaker 3: This is one of the weenies. This is one of

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Speaker 3: way he interpreted this music and me as a recently

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Speaker 3: I can't remember music ever touching me. What the hell

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Speaker 3: is that is weird? Well, it is weird. Holy smuff,

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Speaker 3: I know, isn't that strange?

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Speaker 2: Well, hey, you got anything for angsty empty nesters? I

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Speaker 2: like to play golf? Yeah, yeah, Wow, Wow.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that strange? Though? Yeah, I mean that's that's beyond strange.

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Speaker 2: That's uh does he ex well? I guess he kind

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Speaker 2: of sort of explains why, but not no way that

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Speaker 2: anywhere else in any other context. I think, well, wait

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Speaker 2: a minute, there are a lot of, you know, trips

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Speaker 2: people go through in their lives that maybe start like

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Speaker 2: move on. I mean, there are a lot of things

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Speaker 3: We are, well, they're also a million pieces of music

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Speaker 3: the fact that this well known jazz critic picks out

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Speaker 3: knowing that it'd be one thing if i'd read that first,

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Speaker 3: listened to it that many times in a row, if ever,

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Speaker 4: It's amazing how different music works. That's how you felt

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I agree in any other context, I would have been

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Speaker 3: the next song. And it makes me question my understanding

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Speaker 3: of you know, abstract art and stuff like that. When

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Speaker 2: See, I'm into that.

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Speaker 3: Normally that kind of music, well, I agree with Hitler,

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Speaker 3: I think is just kind of meandering, and I understand

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Speaker 2: Obviously we're we're sitting here, you know, rolling around in

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Speaker 2: this guru, this sage, this omniscient McSweeney person. What the

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Speaker 3: Does he have that ability with all songs in art?

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Speaker 3: That painting over there, If your cat just got hit

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Speaker 2: As you're sitting there thinking of little Fluffy and admiring

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Speaker 4: Man, Well, let me want to go find all of

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Speaker 3: One would have a difficult time finding a musical composition

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Speaker 2: And you're a coffee addict.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have done that as a I would stopping

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sure. That doesn't know anything.

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Speaker 3: It's freaky man, laying in bed listening to it in

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Speaker 3: my headphones in the dark, moved by music in a

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Speaker 3: way maybe I never have been in my life weird.

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Speaker 2: Now. I've been trying to think if there's anything that's

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not sure what McSweeney would say about that.

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Speaker 2: I have no cousin Greg who's a greedy son of

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Speaker 2: Turning to a new pole, gen Z doesn't want to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't the right kind of bar. I liked

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Speaker 3: You're that guy, and well, girls oftentimes get pictures of beer.

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Speaker 3: Show, Fancy Armstrong and Getty Show, featuring our podcast. One

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Speaker 2: What the heck happened? An expert weighs in. It's one

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Speaker 3: Before we get to that.

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Speaker 3: want a TikTok challenge that is, it's the leave your parents' house,

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Speaker 3: if that catches on, It'll be waiting forever for that. God.

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Speaker 2: It's just horrific, harsh and draconian penalty act like somebody

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because she's an old woman who thinks somebody broke

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, this one was a I guess this

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Speaker 4: Or you get the people that run out into traffic

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Speaker 3: Right, And then their friends film that and put it

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Speaker 3: I had them with the algorithm. Is the more attention

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Speaker 2: now sketching out my plan to form a vigilante group

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Speaker 3: Oh I know what it was. So you take the

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Speaker 4: I do love it New York. There is a hashtag

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Speaker 3: Are a series of videos of people I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 2: Around and find out oh god, damn it. All right,

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Speaker 2: Well this is troubling and disturbing in the world is

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Speaker 3: From twenty thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Very good. I'm speaking to you from the Moon colony

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Speaker 2: while Jack remains on Earth. Trump is in his fifteenth term. Finally, finally,

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Speaker 2: one party rule, as we dreamed of secretly all those

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Speaker 2: captain and cadet. I don't know what a cadet is.

439
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: Apparently that's something on a ship, and from what we

440
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: can tell, it looks like they lost the plant the

441
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: ship's power and or propulsion and collided with the northern

442
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: span of the bridge. Yeah, actually twice they lost power.

443
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 2: She meaning the boat most definitely had at least a

444
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 2: harbor pilot on board, and may even have had a

445
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: docking pilot on board too. Harbor or bay pilots get

446
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 2: the ship from the sea buoy to the port, and

447
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 2: docking pilots park the ship. Driving a conning a ship

448
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 2: or driving it isn't nearly as simple as most people

449
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: think it is.

450
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it's simple. I mean it's probably really hard.

451
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 2: Oh. I thought it was hard, and it's harder than

452
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: I thought. This ship has a bow thruster one, so okay, whoo.

453
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying so hard not to laugh. I don't want

454
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 2: to give him the encouragement.

455
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Speaker 3: That was great, Jack, Thank you for that child. God,

456
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 3: my child is right, my son who's twelve, and I

457
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: don't think he knows what he's talking about.

458
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: Drop to. That's what she said on me the other day.

459
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 3: Because it's popular in school, and I don't think they

460
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: most of them know what they're really talking about.

461
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: But I don't see that gives me hope for the

462
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: next generation. It really does. Were they discussing China on

463
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: the playground? Oh, boy. So the ship has a bow

464
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 2: thruster just like Jack, one slow speed diesel engine, and

465
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: one fixed pitch propeller. In order for most of these

466
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: types of ships to reverse propulsion, the engineers first have

467
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: to have to unclutch the shaft. I won't, I won't good,

468
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 2: shut down the engine, stop the shaft from spinning, restart

469
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 2: the engine backwards, and clutch in the shaft. These ships

470
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: are built to run most of their lives going forward

471
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: as efficiently as possible, so they are incredibly inefficient trying

472
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: to make way a stern backing up. In a perfect world,

473
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Speaker 2: it would take a few minutes to start backing down. Well,

474
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Speaker 2: this isn't a perfect world.

475
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Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't know they could start going backwards that fast.

476
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: I figured it took longer than that, longer than what

477
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Speaker 3: a few minutes.

478
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Speaker 2: No, in a perfect world, it would take a few

479
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: minutes to start backing down. But this is not a

480
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,239
Speaker 2: perfect world. With ships, you can't just put it in

481
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Speaker 2: reverse first. You are trying to take off tens of

482
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Speaker 2: thousands of laws long tons of momentum. It's a term

483
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm completely unfamiliar with. With the added delay of the

484
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: plant going through its process of getting the stern bell going.

485
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: So for the most part, mariners have to maneuver their

486
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 2: way out of an open moment. If you don't have power,

487
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 2: you can't move the hydraulics involved with the rudder to

488
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: push your stern. Over most cargoes, vessel pivot point is

489
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: a third of the ship's length from the bow to

490
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Speaker 2: the so even if we are able to start a turn,

491
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Speaker 2: the ship may still have hit the bridge on the

492
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 2: side of the vessel like a glancing blow. Also, with

493
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: a fixed pitch prop, you will back up the opposite

494
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: side your screw pins. Oh back up to the opposite

495
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: side your screwpins. For example, if your prop spins clockwise

496
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: going forward, this is called the right handed propeller. Well,

497
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: you're trying to back up, your stern will get pushed

498
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: to the left. Then he goes into how the rudder works.

499
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: But the point is it is a nightmare to maneuver

500
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: these things, and you've got to be extremely good at

501
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: it because there's so much energy, that much weight in motion.

502
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Speaker 3: Well, I know you're seafaring people, Katie. Your dad has

503
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: a boat and everything, But if you've ever driven a

504
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 3: boat at all, you know how difficult it can be

505
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 3: to you know, go a certain direction or stop from

506
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 3: going a certain direction if you miscalculate.

507
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and everything takes extra time. There is no

508
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 4: immediate maneuver on anything on the water.

509
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,719
Speaker 3: And then so our Joe and I's friend Dave, who

510
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: lives on a boat down San Diego. Last time I

511
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: was with him, I guess it was last Friday, fourth

512
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: of July. So we're on his boat and we come

513
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 3: back and he lost motors. He lost one of his motors,

514
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: so he lost the motor on one side, so he

515
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,479
Speaker 3: could only navigate one direction. And man, we ended up

516
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 3: having a bad thing happen. But we were all on

517
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 3: one side of boat trying to keep us from smashing

518
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: into all these other boats and smashing his boat up

519
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: against the poles because once you start drifting, and he

520
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: got no motors, like that guy was talking about, if

521
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 3: you've got no power, you're just going the direction you

522
00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: were going.

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00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know if you guys saw that

524
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: video where it's sped up where you can see where

525
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 4: this ship is heading towards the bridge.

526
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 3: I mean the power goes out twice.

527
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 4: So they're clearly having some big issues, let alone trying

528
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 4: to maneuver this thing.

529
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: Right, And I'll get to that in just a second,

530
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: but he points out the description of how the rudder

531
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 2: works that and anybody who has a boat knows this.

532
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 2: You can't turn a boat that isn't moving right. It's

533
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: got to be moving to turn, and if you need

534
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: it to turn quickly, it needs to be going fast.

535
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 3: If you've driven on snow or ice, you know this

536
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 3: phenomenon also, right.

537
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: So anyway, so they had that problem, and it takes

538
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: a long damn time to move a ship like that significantly,

539
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: especially at the speeds they were going. Then he says,

540
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: all of that being said, the loss of power adds

541
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: a massive delay to try to make any corrective action.

542
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: In the video you can see the lights cut off

543
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: and back on again. We timed it. It took well

544
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: over a minute to get power back on. The regulations

545
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 2: say that the emergency diesel generators should only take it

546
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: most forty five seconds to store power to the emergency systems.

547
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that reminds me of the text we got that

548
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: said I didn't know Boeing made ships now huh.

549
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh. With this, you'll probably hear why didn't

550
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: they just drop an anchor? Well, it doesn't work like

551
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: that in the movie Battleship or Contraband. In order for

552
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: the flukes of modern anchors to fetch up, you have

553
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: to be going almost one knot. I had a captain

554
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: tell me one time, never run aground with two anchors

555
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: on board. They don't do. But it makes it looks

556
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: like you tried everything. Oh okay, so that.

557
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: Such just First of all, I didn't think of the

558
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 3: anchor thing. If I'd thought of it, I would have

559
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: said that myself. Why didn't they drop the anchor? But

560
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: don't run aground without having dropped both anchors, or at

561
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: least it looks like you tried.

562
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. Things like this can have a number of

563
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: things go wrong, ranging from misjudgment from the pilot, of

564
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: miscommunication between the pilot and captain, or a mistake in

565
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: the engine room that caused a loss of power and

566
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: or propulsion. Shoot, it could be all three. I highly

567
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: recoon keeping an eye on the YouTube channel what is

568
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: going on with shipping. The guy there does a great

569
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: job at explaining maritime and navy stuff, and he'll break

570
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: this down as soon as he has info.

571
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: So these great big giant tanker ships that got all

572
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 3: those containers on them and railroad cars and stuff like that,

573
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: or trailers for semis. I mean that gives you the perspective.

574
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: It's the only way you can get any perspective on

575
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: these things. As they're sitting out in the ocean with

576
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 3: nothing next to them. You look at those things and think,

577
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: he's one of those is like a train car or

578
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 3: a container or whatever it is. Yeah, and you think,

579
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: oh my god, that's a giant ship.

580
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

581
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: But remember so we were at a port in West

582
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: Sacramento where they ship lots of rice in and out

583
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: from around the world. Remember that guy telling us stories

584
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: about those giant ships that come in and there aren't

585
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: very many people on those ships, and how weird.

586
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: They all were.

587
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: Yes, that story, I do you've ever heard this, Katie before.

588
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: But they're out there for months, and a lot of

589
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: people that work on these ships are very strange people.

590
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: Because you're somebody that wants to be on a ship

591
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: with northern he human beings and like no entertainment or

592
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: anything like that for months by yourself down in the

593
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: dark of a ship's people.

594
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: These guys, uh don't even have visus, so they can't

595
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: come off the ship. So they'll dock in the US

596
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: or dock in some port. That sounds interesting. They're not

597
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: allowed to get off the ship.

598
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: They just stay in their dark ship. Yeah, that special

599
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: kind of personality for that job.

600
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: Right, I was Frank, Right, wasn't that his name?

601
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: I don't know.

602
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: That was super interesting though.

603
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, And whenever I see those ships, that's what I

604
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 3: think of. Now, got some really strange mole people living

605
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: on that ship.

606
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: Romanian mole people must not be allowed off.

607
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 4: It comes out of my mouth every time we go

608
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: on the boat with my family, because we'll go out

609
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 4: of the estuary and we're down on the sea level

610
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 4: looking up at those things, and I'm always like, how

611
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 4: do those how do they float?

612
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Yeah, oh yeah, there're you know, some terms

613
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: are overused. They are quite literally breasttaking to sea from

614
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: anywhere close to them.

615
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: Well, they displaced more than the weight of the water

616
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: technically is how they float. But that's hard to imagine

617
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: that that even happened.

618
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they what Oh.

619
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: Keep your shaft oiled?

620
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: Ya am right? An right? Wow? And a clip from shaft.

621
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was just all sorts of interfer It was

622
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Speaker 3: a multi media presentation you gave us there The.

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty Show, Jack Your Shoe, podcasts and our

624
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: Hot Lakes.

625
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: It's the Armstrong and Getty Show featuring our podcast One

626
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: more Thing. Download it, subscribe to it wherever you like

627
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,120
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628
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: A couple of texts before we get to Joe. Why

629
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: Joe hates Canadians.

630
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: I do not hate Canadians. But that's what you said.

631
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't paying attention. I have to share this,

632
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: says a texture. I took my six year old granddaughter

633
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: to San Francisco. While we're walking to lunch, a group

634
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: of men rode by in their bikes, absolutely naked. My

635
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: granddaughter said, Nana, who is running this place out of

636
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: the mouth of babes?

637
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: Yep, oh wow.

638
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: Sort of thing you will see in San Francisco, completely

639
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: naked men on bicycles, And some people think that's wonderful

640
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: for some reason, that that's like progress for some reason,

641
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: I'll ever understand.

642
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: A bunch of twist Tooids.

643
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: Also mentioned at the end of the radio show on

644
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: the twenty first that it was my birthday and for

645
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: some reason, I've never cared less about my birthday than now.

646
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: And I'm not exactly sure if it's wisdom and maturity

647
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 3: or depression and I've lost the ability to enjoy life.

648
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: But we did get this text your birthday. Everyone has one.

649
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: You're not special.

650
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: Geez, wow, thank you for that. All right, That's that's

651
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,959
Speaker 2: a person I really pity. Yeah, imagine being that unhappy.

652
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: I just I don't even know. I don't even know.

653
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: When I see that sort of stuff on social media

654
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: and you see a lot, it's always like, wow, first

655
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: of all, Jack, happy birthday. Second of all that pero,

656
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: there you go.

657
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that has nothing to do with you, obviously, I

658
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: know you know that Jack. No, no, no, no, boy,

659
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: that's that's entirely about that person.

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00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: When I come across that stuff on social media. Really,

661
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: honest to God, the thing I think is I need

662
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: to make sure my kids don't end up like that,

663
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 3: to where they're so miserable at the with the lure

664
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: lives that they have to strike out at anything that

665
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: might be pleasant or happy for someone to get through

666
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: the day.

667
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Speaker 2: I mean, Jesus, it's so awful.

668
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Speaker 4: Or someone that that maybe isn't so miserable that they

669
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 4: do that, but does it for joy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

671
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Speaker 2: You know there are those.

672
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: People that that, I mean, you see them all over

673
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: the Internet that create these accounts just to troll people

674
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 4: because they enjoy it.

675
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: I've only known I've only I've only personally known two trolls,

676
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: but they both had the same attitude. So I'm just

677
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: assuming that that's kind of common among the troll community.

678
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: They really get such enjoyment of there's somebody happy. I'm

679
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: gonna try to take some of that. And it's just

680
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 3: think it's so weird. I've never had that feeling. You know, somebody,

681
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: somebody's a sickness, somebody got somebody got a new car,

682
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Speaker 3: and I say, I heard they suck or just something

683
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: like that.

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00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: What what is that like? Why? Well, as I've always said,

685
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: people who are too dopey or lazy to build things,

686
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: the only satisfaction they get is from breaking things. And

687
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 2: again that's pathetic.

688
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the person who vandalizes the playground equipment.

689
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the same sort of thing.

690
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: It's just awful. The only effect they will ever have

691
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: on the world before they are dead is to break

692
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 2: things and hurt people, So that's what they do. And

693
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 2: and again it's it's just painfully pathetic. What is a

694
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: birthday dinner for you?

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00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I'm gonna go eat steak tonight and some

696
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: sort of ill advised dessert. Be my guess, it's more

697
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 3: from my kids than me. I don't know if I

698
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: would even leave the house tonight if it birthday. Bang

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00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: bang Oh boy, that sounds like a challenge. Steak five pushups,

700
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 3: that's the that's the deal. A bang bang is back

701
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: to back meals of completely different kinds. So what do

702
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: I follow steak with pizza? Stop and get a pizza?

703
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: Oh oh, steak is a dense, dense first blow.

704
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 3: It's gonna leave a mark.

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00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah wow. Following up steak something completely different, nice uh

706
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: Ramen restaurant or something that's a little hipster for you.

707
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: Maybe Italian though in the noodle the noodle realm.

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00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 2: Well right, let's go Raman adjacent I like the spaghetti

709
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: and meatballs. Yeah yeah.

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00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 3: I did an accidental bang bang with my brother when

711
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 3: he was in town when I had cancer. We ate

712
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: a pizza not knowing my wife was making dinner, and

713
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 3: then we got home and she had made a big dinner,

714
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 3: like a big homemade dinner because my brother was in town,

715
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: and so you can't, you know, so she colums the

716
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 3: word We had stuffed ourselves with pizza, but then brought

717
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 3: it hard for that homemade dinner.

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Speaker 2: Also, well, wait, a man up.

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00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I commend you for that. It's just the polite

720
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Speaker 3: thing to this

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and getty