WEBVTT - Ep. 93 - Bernhard Langer 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:05.680 Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. I am your host, 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.399 Shane Bacon. This week's Clubhouse episode with Bernhard Langer is 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:11.520 brought to you, of course, by o Geo and the 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:14.000 Mutant Travel Bag. All the room you'd want when you 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.959 travel without sacrifice, and the always important security of those 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.000 precious sticks ears. The Mutant Travel Bag has an oversized 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.800 compartment up top to securely wrap around the heads of 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.799 your clubs, oversized wheels to make walking with it easier, 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.200 and two large compartments on the sides that, from my experience, 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:32.920 can easily hold a couple of pairs of golf shoes 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:36.000 maybe those flip flops ears. 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I feel like he should be near one. 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.600 He should definitely be ahead of John rom at least 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.600 in my opinion, but the last number three in the world. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.680 Tiger Woods twelfth place, finished best in nearly three years. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.959 He looked really solid. He looked like he was strategically 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.440 playing this golf course, which is something we've seen Tiger 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.440 do successfully over the course of his career. I liked 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.040 a lot of the choices he had off the tea, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.600 didn't seem to be leaning on the driver as much. 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.680 A couple of bad swings on the part of Three's 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.920 during the bear Trap, but everybody struggles with those wholes. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.679 They're really really hard. But good signs from Tiger, that's 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:44.600 for sure. A lot of positives coming out of these 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.320 three weeks that he played. I know he missed the 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.639 cut at Riviera, but I just feel like he's building 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.080 towards something impressive, towards something that can actually work in 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.920 this world, in this two thousand eighteen PGA Tour, and 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.920 that's what he needs. So if you can keep finding 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.160 fairways with fairway woods and stinger irons and maybe the 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.480 driver out a bit, the putting seems to be there, 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:04.760 the iron place seems to be there. And if that's 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.760 the case, I mean, I guess I have to say it. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.000 Tiger Wood's probably going to be a PGA Tour winner 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:12.640 in two thousand and eighteen. Exciting stuff. 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I was 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.720 excited to get the talk to Bernhard Langer, the two 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.320 time Masters champion now has ten champions Tour major wins. 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:45.160 Just seems to be defined age and father time and 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.440 all that stuff that seems to get anybody that spent 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.359 four or five six years out on the Champions tories 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.960 sixty years old, and he's still the best player in 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.360 that regard. Plus he thinks he could still compete at 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.960 the Masters, he he said, he thinks that in the 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.280 right conditions he could maybe at a three third green jacket. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.919 Of course, it's sixty. That seems absurd, especially with the 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.320 distance that Augustin National is these days. But hey, he said, 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.240 firm and fast, he's got a chance. He'll talk about 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:15.079 that and plenty more up next, and we welcome into 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.920 the clubhouse for the first time. Two time Master champion 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.919 and now a record ten, yes, ten Champions Tour Major wins. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:26.120 Is that weird to hear Bernard Longer? Well, it's it's 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:29.040 a little weird. But it's been a lot of fun, 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.280 you know. It's it's always fun to do something no 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.680 one else has done before, and I'm certainly very blessed 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.600 to still be at it. Well, my first question for you, 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.680 I've been asking some players that have jumped on this 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:42.640 and and you're gonna have to rack your brain, so 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:44.720 this will be a hard one to start. What are 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.800 the what was the first full set of like adult 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.040 golf clubs you ever owned? Do you remember? Yes? I 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:54.560 certainly do, because I paid for him myself as a 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.400 twelve year old. So there were Croydon's. Most people don't 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:03.200 probably haven't never that name, but make a long story short. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.680 I was caddying from nine years old, and UH saved 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.320 some money that we only had four clubs as caddies. 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.600 It was a two woods three seven iron and I 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:17.360 thought it with a bench shaft, and so I always 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.159 wanted my own clubs and eventually had saved enough money 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.400 to buy those, and that was you know, it's like 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.240 Christmas and needs to come by. And how much would 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.279 you make back in the day for those loops? How 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.919 much would they pay you for eighteen holes? It was 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.080 then German. It was like two toutch marks and fifty 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:37.560 clinics for nine holes, which is about a dollar for 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.000 nine holes. Not very much, but it was. It was 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:42.960 a lot for me at the time. You were happy 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:45.039 with it. I've caddied before. Any money you get, any 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:46.720 time they passed your money in your pocket, you gotta 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.360 be happy, will you? You turned professional professional at fifteen 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:54.080 years old, is that correct? That's correct? Yes? What were 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.200 you thinking going? Going pro that early. What what was 0:04:56.240 --> 0:05:00.520 the motivation to go at fifteen? Well, it's actually it's simple. 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:05.040 I finished school, uh basic schooling after nine years, and 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.760 I had to go to work. So the only way 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:12.080 for me to stay in golf was actually working or 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.320 to play golf, was to work in golf because I 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.800 didn't have the money. Uh you know, if I just 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.360 do an average job. There were all private clubs in Germany, 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:26.520 I couldn't have afforded it. So I watched the golf instructor, 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.120 the golf coach we had at our local club, and 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.400 and enjoyed what he was doing, helping people to play 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:36.200 better golf. So I became a assistant golf professional, learning 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.960 the trade, you know, working in the pro shop, giving 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:44.200 lessons and running events and fixing golf clubs and learning English, 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.960 all that kind of stuff. And you've been a winner 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.000 in a in a staple on the European tour since 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.960 really the mid seventies. At what point through the process 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.440 did you think to yourself, Hey, I'm pretty good at this. 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.880 I've got a chance to make this a serious, you know, 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:03.080 a serious long career. Yeah. I was weird because in 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:07.040 Germany there was really never anybody that's done anything on 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:12.240 any tour in the seventies and even in the early eighties, 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.680 so I really didn't know what to expect, but I 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:20.640 wanted a few events amongst the German pros as an 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:26.240 assistant pro and a businessman from Cologne watched me when 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.039 the German National Close Championship when I was seventeen, and 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.600 he said, but do you have any aspirations to go 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.760 on the tour. Let me know, I might help you financially, 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.120 and I said, well, I certainly would, and about a 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.479 year from now so he financed me a little bit 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.120 and that was you know, I figured, well, I'll give 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.600 it a few years. If it doesn't work out, you 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.839 can always go back to teaching, and thankfully it worked 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.640 out pretty decent. Yeah. I mean it's so much different now. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.240 I mean when you look at the way young players 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.680 go through the processes now, I mean, it is completely 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.360 different than than what you went through. Paul Easinger has 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.200 told me numero times when he went to college to 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.320 play golf, he couldn't break eighty. I mean, now you're 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.520 seeing these junior players, you know, that have all the 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.039 game in the world. I mean, what was your game 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.360 like when you were fifteen years old, seventeen years old. 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:12.840 What was it like compared to maybe a seventeen year 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:17.160 old aspiring professional today. Yeah, you know, it was weird 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.000 because I was never an amtor. I never had a handicapped, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.520 So I was caddied till fifteen, and I would I 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.800 would be able to play a few caddy tournaments with practice, 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:29.000 and I would probably shoot around even part when I 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:33.600 was fifteen, and then I gradually got better. And you know, 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:38.040 so when I was eighteen, I broke part on on 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:42.360 a regular basis. But what exactly what my handicap would 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.360 have been, I really have no idea. Well, I mentioned 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.720 golf changing when you talked to young players, When you 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.960 talk to somebody, say a fifteen, seventeen, twenty year old 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.480 European player that that is thinking about taking on the 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.560 PGG Tour, I mean this, this has really turned into 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.840 kind of a global golf world that we're in right now. 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.520 What's the advice you give them as they start to 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:08.080 move outside of their comfort zone and prepare to play elsewhere. Well, 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.920 I would first of all tell them to finish their 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.720 education because it's such a fickle game. You know, so 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.080 many things can go wrong. And there's no guarantee you're 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.400 going to be successful, and it's very few that are. 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.320 And it's an extremely difficult profession if you're struggling, if 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.400 you if you're not very very, very good. Uh, it's 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.599 tough because you're traveling, you're always away, you have expenses 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.960 at home, expenses away, you keep missing cuts, you know, 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:40.199 have no income, and it's just no fun when you're struggling. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.800 But if you think you can be one of the best, 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.760 then I would certainly recommend it to you know, pursue 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.520 the dream, give it a few years and see how 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.319 it all develops. Well, you you won the Master's in 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.920 it was your third started Augusta. You were a known 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.720 entity in Germany, you were known entity around the European tour. 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.360 How different did life become following that win considering it 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.200 was on you know, it was on United States soil 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:09.600 and it was a major championship. Well, it certainly changed 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.720 a lot in my career. I mean I was maybe 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.040 not that well known in America, but I did finish 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.160 second in the British opening eighty one. I won the 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.320 European money List in eighty four, so you know, people 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.240 should have heard of me. If they watched some of 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:28.360 the bigger events. But at the time golf wasn't as global, 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:32.080 and you know, most people saw that all the best 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.720 golfers come from America, which which was probably true. You know, 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:39.360 we had you know, Tony Jackman and Savy Byasnaros had 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:43.600 already won British Open and one or two Masters, so 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.520 he's heard the first on scene. But it was a 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:51.360 big break through for me. I'm married in American Women 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.640 in eighty four, and then one of the Masters which 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.040 in eighty five, which gave me a ten year full 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.000 exemption on the tour at the time, which was huge. 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.599 I could choose to play in the US or continue 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.160 play in Europe and worldwide, which I did for the 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:09.040 most part, but I also played a little bit more 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.560 in the US, and uh I had a second home 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.920 over here, which was great for me because growing up 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.480 in German in the winter, you know, I was basically 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.520 no golf for four or five months. Would you you 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.240 started the day back at eighty six, I mean, you 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.080 win the Masters in eighty five, you're just a shot 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.959 back of Greg Norman. Of course, everybody knows what happened 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.720 in six, you know, Jack Nicholas wins arguably the greatest 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.560 final round in the history of of of a Master's 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.200 not necessarily the best memory for you, But take us 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.480 back to that day, being on the golf course, being 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.840 in the mix there, What was the buzz like around 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:43.680 that final round? What were the fans like? I could 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:45.839 only imagine it was. It was as crazy as it 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.040 could be considering what was going on around you. It 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.320 certainly was. You know, there were loud cheers as you 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.360 would ever here around Augusta, and you could just send 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:58.760 something special was happening, and I wasn't sure what it was, 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.400 but when I looked at the lead board, I could 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:05.760 see Nicholas creeping up near the top. And the amazing 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.760 thing is everybody else kind of faltered. You know, you 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.920 had Savy Bias, there's there. You had Greg normanal he 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.640 needed was part on the last to go on a playoff. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.440 You had Tom Kite who had about an eight foot 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.559 pot on the last to tie as well. There were 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:26.160 all sor two players in the mix and nobody, you know, 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.199 kind of finished it off in the very end, and uh, 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.120 you know, the bear came through, and he came through roaring, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:37.680 and obviously everybody was thrilled as an amazing fee too 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:43.520 to win his six Masters at and I was very 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.080 very blessed to just slip the checket on him and 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.480 then shake his hand and say, well done. This is incredible. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.559 When you go back to Augustine, you play practice rounds 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.120 with with young players, how do you describe the golf 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.360 course to them? Because it is a place it seems 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.679 like that either it fits your aim or it doesn't. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.760 I mean we saw Lee Travino struggle there for a 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:04.880 long time throughout his career. Of course, we have guys 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.880 like Jack Nicholas, You, Tiger Woods, Nick Voulo, these types 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.120 of players that it seems to really fit their golf game. 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.200 What do you tell them? What's the advice you give 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:13.880 players when you play with them for the first time 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.920 to get around Augustine hopefully to have similar successes that 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:21.040 you've had. Well, the first thing I was telling is 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.920 really pay attention to the greens where and what you 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.760 want to miss the green or miss your shot. If 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:28.480 you if you miss it, you know so you have 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.320 an apple pot. Or if you missed the green, you 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.720 need to miss it on the correct side where you 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.720 can get it up and down. Because if you miss 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.080 it on the wrong side, there's no way you're gonna 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.120 get it up and down unless you make at sixty 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:46.000 pot and that's the key. But Augusta has changed dramatically. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.440 I think the golf course has really changed in the 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:53.400 In the eighties and nineties, before they made all the changes, um, 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:57.160 the fairways were extremely white. It was really I mean, 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:00.360 you were upset if you missed the fairway. Literally, they 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:04.040 were very generous, and it was all about or mostly 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:08.080 about the second shot. And uh sort did the angle 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:11.600 of the second shot, but then also mostly the second 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.599 shot and putting in the short game. And now it's 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:19.520 then they planted five thousand trees, made it much more 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:23.000 narrow and much longer, and now it's a tough driving 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.200 course on on top of you know, second shot is 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.839 still crucial and we all know how difficult these greens are. 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.560 You mentioned the greens. Do you think that people overrate 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.400 putting when they talk about the Masters, because we've seen 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:38.760 guys that have struggled with they're putting win there. I 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.000 mean Bubba Watson not a historically great putter, Sergio Garcia 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.079 not a historically great putter. Adam Scott, you know, recently 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.240 one and not always great on the greens. You you said, 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:50.280 you know it's a second shot type of golf course. 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.440 Do you feel like we had there? Everybody the media 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.000 always says, you know, you gotta put well, you gotta 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.200 put well. But it seems like you don't necessarily have 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.319 to be a great putter. Almost the greens, you know, 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.680 make it, make it an equal plane old for everybody. 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.320 You still need to you still need to make some 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:06.160 putts and uh, you need a voice tree putting and 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.280 tour putting, and you gotta make some putts. But the 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.440 greens are so pure. Uh. And all these players you mentioned, 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.800 they may not be the greatest potters weekend and we 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.960 got but they all have weeks when they do put 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.520 very well. Um, and you know that that was their 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.560 time when they wanted there. They they potted well on 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.040 top of hitting the ball grade and that's what it takes. 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:30.680 I wanted to take a quick break to tell you 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.800 about zip recruiter. Are you hiring? You're posting your positions 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.480 the job science and waiting and waiting for the right 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.840 people to see it. Zip Recruiter knew there was a 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.320 smarter way, so they built a platform that finds the 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.400 right job candidates for you. 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At the same time, 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.720 it is very difficult for me because I'm hitting some 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.600 guys hit eight and nine irons and uh, I can 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.200 reach some of the top five's which they can reach. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.440 So I I really need to in my as game 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:05.800 either green and on the greens, and you know, I've 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.600 got to be really precise, not make any mistakes so 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:13.200 very few. If if I just play mediocre, I got 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.400 no chance. While some of the bombers, they can get 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.640 away with a bunch of you know, not so great 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:22.120 shots as they have lots of opportunities for birdies. If 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.680 if they have a wet tonight and in in the end 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:27.640 for the second shots, or if they can reach the 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.200 path fives into they're gonna make a few eagles or 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.840 a bunch of birdies. When you get to the Masters 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.520 every year, it's six years old. Now, what conditions do 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.360 you hope to see? I mean, what conditions do you 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.280 feel like fits your game the best? You needed to 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.560 be firm and fast, you needed to be wet. What 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.520 what do you hope to see when you get there 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:46.760 to bring out the best in your game and to 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:49.800 give yourself a chance. But I'd like to see it 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.320 firm and fast. It's gonna make the golf course much harder, 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:55.240 and it's going to make the golf course a little shorter, 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:59.880 which I think it favors my game. I'm still gonna 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.000 a few greens because I'm still hitting longer clubs in there, 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.080 but I I hopefully will miss them in the right places, 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.119 as I said, where I have a good chance to 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.040 get up and down. But if if the golf course 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.840 is wet, it plays extremely long, and you get a 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.440 lot of mud balls because they mode the fairways from 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.840 green to tea, so it's like hitting into the grain 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.960 on every T shirt and it digs up that Georgia clay, 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.000 and you know that's no fun when you're hitting three 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.879 or four and with a little clump of third on 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.560 the side and you don't know how much it's going 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.399 to affect it. You turned fifty a decade ago, you 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.520 won your first season on the Champions Tour. You then 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.800 started to reel off multiple win seasons. It's been ten years. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.400 How are you able to keep doing this? And most 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.480 people don't do this like you're doing it. They normally 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:46.560 have four or five good years and then they kind 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.199 of ride off into the sunset. That's not been the 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.120 case with you. Now. I'm trying to defeat the odds. 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.680 You know, there's always been there's always been a few 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:59.600 that stood out, whether it's Tom Watson tailor in there's 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.120 there's was a few that are just a little bit 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:06.040 better than than the good average. And I'm trying to 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.400 be one of those, and so far it's it's worked out. 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:11.920 I'm trying to stay healthy, and I really enjoyed um 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.800 to play the game of golf. I know the clock 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:18.360 is ticking and my years are numbered, so I might 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.880 as well have fun while at lasts and see what happened. 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.160 You mentioned you like to you you're trying to stay fits, 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.240 trying to stay healthy. What do you do in that regard? 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.080 I mean, are you a gym rat, just eat healthy, 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.560 lucky with genetics. What are you doing to stay in 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.920 the best shape you can stay in? Yeah, probably a 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.760 little bit of everything. I'm I enjoy working out. I've 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:40.920 I've done that all my life, even though when I 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.920 was younger, I enjoyed you know, in the early days, 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:46.639 I would go for runs in the in the woods 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.480 in Germany, and I loved that till my back was 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.840 so bad that I had to quit jogging. So then 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.240 I had to, you know, find the stationary bike or 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:59.840 something where I wouldn't have the pounding. But I just en, 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:06.080 you know, moving and uh, just stretching. I feel better, 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:10.479 I have more energy, I'm not as stiff, and uh, 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:14.040 I think it just also creates long chevity. It's good 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.359 for you. Yeah, I mean, if you were working out 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:17.960 early in your career, you had to be one of 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:20.000 the few guys that did it. Of course, Gary Player, 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.399 who has been preaching this forever, loves to tell people 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.240 what they should do with their bodies, what they should 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.720 do around the game. Tell me your best Gary Player 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:32.919 workout story that you have. Well, it's, uh, it's a 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:38.000 bit off color, so I can't tell that one. But uh, 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.080 there there's a bunch of I mean, every time you 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.719 you're running too, Gary, it's something, you know, the latest 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.879 thing that's been baking. You can't eat any bacon, it 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:50.240 will kill you, man, don't eat bacon. And then every 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.159 time I see him, he goes, look at me, you 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.320 know now, I'm eighty two. I just saw him a 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.919 week ago and we were we were doing a fundraiser together, 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.920 and he says, yeah, morning, I did a thousand push 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.280 ups and sit ups. Look at me. Just sit as 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.560 a whistle. And then he picks his leg and makes 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.960 a fold turn. And the guy is amazing. I mean, 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.600 when you compare him with most other eight year olds, 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:17.520 he can still make a very big shoulder most people 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.399 couldn't do. Yeah, it's it's incredible. He cracks me up 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:21.639 every time he talks about it. I've had him on 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.080 a couple of times. And and my last name is Bacon. 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:25.720