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Speaker 4: That is the ultimate kabash.

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Speaker 1: Okay, enough of my dulcet tones, let's get into the episode.

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Speaker 6: We're going to look at the guys who right now

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Speaker 6: are popping in our models. We're going to think about

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Speaker 6: suitable predictions and picks and of course prop bets. This

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Speaker 6: week there's a great Thursday night game, Chargers at Chiefs,

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Speaker 6: leads us with an eleven game main slate. But start

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Speaker 6: looking at the guys on the slate, and let's start

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Speaker 6: at quarterback ian Right now, there are a lot of

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Speaker 6: guys popping in our pro models. Out of these guys,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the one guy's zeroing on right now is Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 7: We just got worried about twenty minutes ago that, Yes,

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Speaker 7: Jackson is now finally the quarterback in Baltimore. Joe Flacca

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Speaker 5: Had an awesome stat this week.

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Speaker 7: Basically, only eighteen percent of Josh Allen's rushing yards I

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Speaker 7: So I mean, look over these last four starts dat

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Speaker 7: So I'm riding with Lamar Jackson as long as he's

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Speaker 6: Sean, any thoughts on Lamar Jackson kind of where he's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the guy I have right now too.

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Speaker 9: I do think Zeke is a great option. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I like Joe Mixon quite a bit talented, talented player

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Speaker 6: Obviously it's not it's not a good thought to invest

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was quite the David Johnson receiving line last week.

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Speaker 7: I mean Zeke and Saquan. You know, I haven't tried

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Speaker 7: to make many rosters of jamming those guys in, but

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Speaker 7: I just wonder if they kind of warn't that same

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Speaker 5: Plus rush of tuns per game are just incredibly rare.

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Speaker 6: So Sean, two thoughts, One, what are you thinking about

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Speaker 6: this running back group? And then is this a jam

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I haven't thought of that yet. I think this

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Speaker 7: Scenario is he sees Bobby McCann the slot, who's PFS

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Speaker 6: So it's this weird dichotomy where on the one hand,

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Speaker 7: Ian, you were going to say something, yeah real quick

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Speaker 7: But still, I mean they more or less use him

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Speaker 5: Richer will be able to scheme his guys into some

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Speaker 6: Yeah, great stuff there, and Pete wide receivers. What do

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Speaker 8: gonna have to consider either fading him or just tak

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Speaker 8: him the free square because I think he uh scure

436
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Speaker 8: a touchdown last week. I'm not sure how his yardage,

437
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Speaker 8: but at forty four hundred, especially on this week, could

438
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Speaker 8: be pretty chunky.

439
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Speaker 5: Guys like John Ross a four K John Ross.

440
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Speaker 2: I'm always interested in and I hope he goes off.

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Speaker 8: He had the most John Ross game ever last week,

442
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Speaker 8: one catch for eight yards and a touchdown.

443
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Speaker 5: Right, I mean, I mean we've seen this Raiders defense.

444
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Speaker 7: Now ab got shut down, Ty Freak got touched down

445
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Speaker 7: and got shut down, and t Y Hilton got shut down.

446
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Speaker 7: And in all those games we saw you know, Juju,

447
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Speaker 7: Doyle and Kelsey just go absolutely bonkers. Question is if

448
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Speaker 7: boyd you know it is kind of that number one

449
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Speaker 7: receiver or not, But I think he'll be the guy

450
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Speaker 7: the Raiders look to take away first. And I mean

451
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Speaker 7: good thing with Ross is it only takes one or

452
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Speaker 7: two to kind of get that payoff. But obviously that

453
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Speaker 7: floor and not offense as well, but we'll see.

454
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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I love I love that for like a

455
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Speaker 4: GVP Flay love that call.

456
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Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously stack him with Mixing and Driscoll and win

457
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Speaker 6: all of the money. Even cj Uzoma just go for

458
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Speaker 6: the onslaught. Speaking of tight end, Eric Ebron is popping

459
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Speaker 6: at the top of our models, and then in the

460
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Speaker 6: mid range we have Austin Hooper and then cheaper guys Ezoma,

461
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Speaker 6: Rudolph and Vernon Davis and then just has a total

462
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Speaker 6: pump play Roocky Seals jones Ian. How confident are you

463
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Speaker 6: and Eric Ebron going against the Dallas defense?

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Speaker 7: Not very I was talking about this a little bit earlier,

465
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Speaker 7: but I'm not sure how the Cowboys are gonna defend

466
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Speaker 7: this Colts team. But there is a scenario where I

467
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Speaker 7: think they more or less take away Ebron here, and

468
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Speaker 7: we saw Ertz go for fourteen catches, one hundred and

469
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Speaker 7: forty five yards and two touchdowns in that first matchup

470
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Speaker 7: against the Cowboys. Next time, they pretty much everything in

471
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Speaker 7: their power to take him away and only have thirty

472
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Speaker 7: eight scoreless yards. So I could see a scenario where

473
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Speaker 7: they kind of sell out to stop Ebron if they

474
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Speaker 7: consider him lux top option. But ah man, it's still

475
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Speaker 7: tough to see kind of both Ibron and noor Hilton

476
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Speaker 7: getting tied down. I think it's just a decision to

477
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Speaker 7: make later in the week of if you want to

478
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Speaker 7: kind of go more all in on Hilton and Rebron

479
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Speaker 7: because I think one of those guys gonna have a

480
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Speaker 7: pretty rough day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean, what do you think?

482
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

483
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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm still getting quite a bit of George Kittle.

484
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Speaker 8: You know, not having Ertz or Kelsey does elevate the

485
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Speaker 8: top guys value a little bit, so, so I'm getting

486
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Speaker 8: a ton of Kittle and then Vernon Davis as a

487
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Speaker 8: cheaper option. You know, whenever Jordan reads how you can't

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Speaker 8: ignore Vernon Davis. It's just tricky. You know, they have

489
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Speaker 8: the fourth string QB starting this week. We don't really

490
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Speaker 8: know what to expect, So I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna trust them in cash. I might spend up for cash,

492
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Speaker 8: but I'll definitely have a ton of.

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Speaker 4: Vernon and GPPs, you know.

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Speaker 8: And they're they're facing the Jaguars, so I think with

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Speaker 8: a fourth string QB, they'll probably lean on the tight

496
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Speaker 8: end a little bit more. So I do think this

497
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Speaker 8: is a pretty good spot for Vernon.

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Speaker 1: Pete, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how I can you out love Kittle?

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Speaker 9: I mean, that was a ridiculous game and he's just

501
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Speaker 9: seeing so much opportunity to match up, I guess is

502
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Speaker 9: the reason not to love them.

503
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Speaker 4: Eric G.

504
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Speaker 9: Brown going into these fast linebackers is another guy I'm

505
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Speaker 9: definitely looking hard at. But the matchup is a concern.

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Speaker 9: But his target share and volume is something that we

507
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Speaker 9: definitely love in a game. I mean, we really don't

508
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Speaker 9: have high totals on the main slate. This simply is

509
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Speaker 9: the second highest total right now here on Wednesday morning.

510
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Speaker 9: So Abron to me is another guy who stands out,

511
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Speaker 9: but again you have the matchup issue. Evan Ingram, I

512
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Speaker 9: think I'll definitely look to a widell Beckham is out.

513
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Speaker 9: I think he certainly makes sense. Did see five targets,

514
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Speaker 9: which isn't great, but converted that into seventy seven yards

515
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Speaker 9: also is encourage to play Austin Hooper, but he's also

516
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Speaker 9: dealing with an injury, so that's something to monitor. But yeah,

517
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Speaker 9: for all the games in the main slate, there's pretty

518
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Speaker 9: weak options at some of these positions, and not the

519
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Speaker 9: most enticing games overall, which is the challenge of the week.

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Speaker 6: I think I think that leads us into the fade conversation.

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Speaker 6: If there are any expensive players or guys we think

522
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Speaker 6: might be popular that we would be fine with fading

523
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Speaker 6: this week. Obviously, I'll just start this off by saying

524
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Speaker 6: Antonio Brown, clearly this is not I'm just honestly, I

525
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Speaker 6: don't know. Brown's an interesting situation because at home, his

526
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Speaker 6: smash spot will be hard to know how the Patriots

527
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Speaker 6: are going to play against the wide receivers there with

528
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Speaker 6: Juju on the middle. But ian any guys that he

529
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Speaker 6: might be looking to fade.

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Speaker 7: Set me up there, Freeman, because I'm going with Juju

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Speaker 7: Smith Schuster, because I think I do know how the

532
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Speaker 7: Patriots could approach this situation based on how they covered

533
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Speaker 7: the Vikings, which you know, just a similar situation where

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Speaker 7: you got two pretty much wide receiver ones, and tentatively,

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking that Stefan Gilmour is going to be in

536
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Speaker 7: shadow coverage with Antonio Brown and Jason mccordy, who they've

537
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Speaker 7: been more willing to use in the slot for a

538
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Speaker 7: higher percentage of snaps him in a safety coverage to

539
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Speaker 7: kind of bracket Juju.

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Speaker 5: I think it's going to be tough.

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Speaker 7: And we've seen all season now, really the last two seasons,

542
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Speaker 7: Juju and Ab don't have.

543
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Speaker 5: Massive games together. They have a pro Pro models.

544
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Speaker 7: Their correlation in DraftKings points per game is minus zero

545
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Speaker 7: point six. So they've only both game seventy five receiving

546
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Speaker 7: yards in four games this season. One guy goes off,

547
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Speaker 7: the other guy doesn't. It's not like the offense is

548
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Speaker 7: playing bad. I mean, even that terrible game AB.

549
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Speaker 5: Had last week Ben Rothslberg was still.

550
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Speaker 7: Like twenty five for twenty nine, two hundred eighty yards,

551
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Speaker 7: two touchdowns. They're just they're getting more yards. It's just

552
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Speaker 7: a different guys. So I'm fading Juju, and I think

553
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Speaker 7: this is a week where Ab goes off.

554
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Speaker 1: You hurt me to this ball with that. No, I

555
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Speaker 1: can definitely see that.

556
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think we're going to probably do some

557
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Speaker 6: props around this situation. So I don't want to say

558
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Speaker 6: too much right now about my thoughts on this, but yeah,

559
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Speaker 6: I can definitely see your perspective on that, Sean, What

560
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Speaker 6: do you think.

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Speaker 8: I am fading all QB's six k more this week

562
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Speaker 8: and loading up on qbs under six k this week?

563
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Speaker 8: You know, just looking at you know, all the top

564
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Speaker 8: end qbs. Russell Wilson's way too expensive this week, Big Ben,

565
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Speaker 8: we talked about it. He has some health concerns. Andrew

566
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Speaker 8: Luck has a tough matchup. Kirk Cousins just lost his

567
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Speaker 8: offensive coordinator. Mitch Trubisky looked like crap. So you know,

568
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Speaker 8: when you have like Jamis Winston with a tough matchup

569
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Speaker 8: for Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, Josh Allen, Aaron Rodgers, just

570
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Speaker 8: I think it's it's wise he's just kind of spread

571
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Speaker 8: out on the cheaper guys this week and load up

572
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Speaker 8: at the other positions. That's that's kind of how I

573
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Speaker 8: see this slate going.

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Speaker 1: All right, Pete, what about you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough thing. I mean, the Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 9: Receivers are definitely interesting fades. Ben Roethlisberger too. I mean,

577
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Speaker 9: coming off an injury, it's never ideal. I do think

578
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Speaker 9: he's still a really nice play Amari Cooper on FanDuel

579
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 9: is gonna be such chalk and he's kind of mid

580
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Speaker 9: range price, but there's definitely merit de fading him considering

581
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Speaker 9: his range of outcomes. I mean, there's that huge tournament

582
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Speaker 9: over there, and I think he could be like fifty

583
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Speaker 9: plus percent on so at that ownership, I think he's

584
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Speaker 9: a pretty easy fade. And then Julio Jones, I don't

585
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Speaker 9: hate the idea of fading him if you're buying Patrick

586
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Speaker 9: Peterson being able to slow him down. And also this

587
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Speaker 9: could be a game where Atlanta just runs the ball

588
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 9: and gets out to a big league early, so that

589
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Speaker 9: would be one other reason. But there's a lot of

590
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Speaker 9: arguments for Julio, And obviously I love the Mario this week, all.

591
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Speaker 1: Right, So it's interesting.

592
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Speaker 6: The game with the highest total on the slate Pats

593
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Speaker 6: at Steelers, But we haven't really talked about that as

594
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Speaker 6: a game that we would really want to target. We've

595
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Speaker 6: talked a little bit more about Cowboys and Colts. That's

596
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Speaker 6: second on the slate with forty seven points. Pete, Are

597
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Speaker 6: there other games besides those two that you would really

598
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Speaker 6: be looking to target to stack either one side or

599
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Speaker 6: both sides together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the hardest part about this week.

601
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Speaker 9: I mean, we're just looking at a lower scoring game

602
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Speaker 9: environment across the board. We're talking a little pre pod

603
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Speaker 9: and I definitely agree. I think the Raiders at Bengals

604
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Speaker 9: with two bad defenses is the one that probably stands

605
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Speaker 9: out the most. We've already seen some positive line movement there.

606
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Speaker 9: Definitely like that game quite a bit. Another spot that

607
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Speaker 9: I don't hate the idea of stacking up would be

608
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Speaker 9: Miami and Minnesota, just because I love some of the

609
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Speaker 9: Minnesota guys. Kenny Still's coming off a big week. I

610
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Speaker 9: guess you could go to him running it back. But

611
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Speaker 9: it's a weird, weird week for game stacks, which is

612
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Speaker 9: normally my favorite strategy. There's games that are almost cross

613
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Speaker 9: offs right away, and the best environments are all off

614
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Speaker 9: the main slate. You know, the Eagles, Rams, Saints, Panthers,

615
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Speaker 9: and Chiefs Chargers. Those games all have massive shootout potentially

616
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Speaker 9: not on the main slate. So it's it's tough, which

617
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Speaker 9: will be interesting for tournaments.

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Speaker 1: It's fine.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking at the Vegas page that we have a

620
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Speaker 6: Fantasy Labs and it looks like, I don't know, it

621
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Speaker 6: looks like twenty sixteen with like the totals that we

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Speaker 6: have there. You know, like you'd have one game that

623
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Speaker 6: was maybe around fifty a little over fifty, and then

624
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Speaker 6: a lot of games around like forty five to forty seven.

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Speaker 1: And that's really what we have on the main slate

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Speaker 1: this week.

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Speaker 6: So it just it feels kind of like a throwback

628
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Speaker 6: week ian any game in particular, maybe outside of the

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Speaker 6: two high scoring ones that you would be looking to target.

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Speaker 7: I think Pete nailed it where we're kind of the

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Speaker 7: top two, the Steelers Patriots going to have the fastest

632
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Speaker 7: projected pace, highest total, and you know, Cowboys, Colts and Door.

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Speaker 7: The only other game I can kind of get behind

634
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Speaker 7: a Lobez is Buccaneers Ravens game. Worried about James's situation

635
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Speaker 7: going on the road facing one of the better defenses

636
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Speaker 7: we'll see all year. But I'm assuming people are gonna

637
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 7: be all off of Chris Gobwin after last week's dud.

638
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Speaker 7: I still think he's capable of maybe putting some together.

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Speaker 7: Mike Evans is a guy who's you know, I think

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Speaker 7: you can always have a little bit of exposure to regardless.

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Speaker 5: Of the matchup.

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Speaker 7: And then the other side of the ball, we at

643
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Speaker 7: least know, you know, the offense is flowing through Lamar Jackson,

644
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Speaker 7: and you know he is going to be getting his

645
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Speaker 7: massive rushing floor every single game it seems like so,

646
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Speaker 7: but I mean it's gonna be a slow pace there,

647
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Speaker 7: and obviously James has the potential to kind of ruin

648
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Speaker 7: things for that offense pretty quickly. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 7: most exposure here Pittsburgh, New England and a Cowboys Golts.

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Speaker 1: Sean, what do you think?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Like we were talking before the pod, I love

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Speaker 8: this Raiders Bengals matchup as a sneaky stack. There's not

653
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Speaker 8: really a great quarterback in this game. But like I

654
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Speaker 8: mentioned earlier, this this week is so finit quarterback. I

655
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Speaker 8: don't think it's crazy to have like a Driscoll or

656
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Speaker 8: Car team. And you know, like Ian mentioned a great

657
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Speaker 8: call on someone like John Ross, you have Jared Cook.

658
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Speaker 8: There's just like you know, some cheaper mid range guys

659
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Speaker 8: here and then kind of spend up elsewhere and have

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Speaker 8: you know, fit in a couple studs. Maybe, like we

661
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Speaker 8: were talking about earlier, having a Berkeley Zeke team and

662
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Speaker 8: then you kind of have a mini Raiders Bengal stack.

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Speaker 8: But you know, both these defenses are terrible. Neither team

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Speaker 8: really has much to play for us, so I didn't

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Speaker 8: get out of hand, and can be pretty high scoring,

666
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Speaker 8: especially on a week where you know, it's like you mentioned,

667
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Speaker 8: every game is about a forty six total, so there's

668
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Speaker 8: not much separating these and I just think this game

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Speaker 8: has some sneaky shootout potential.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's get to the pseudo bold called non

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Speaker 6: obvious pick section of the show. Ian Let's start with

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Speaker 6: you give us one pick for a game in one

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Speaker 6: pick for fantasy.

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Speaker 7: I'll start off with the fantasy. So I was talking

675
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Speaker 7: earlier about Ab and Juju's correlation being pretty terrible together

676
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Speaker 7: at a minus zero point six, Well, I don't feel

677
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Speaker 7: and Stefan diggs correlation together is actually a positive plus

678
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Speaker 7: zero point two, so you know, not a huge relationship.

679
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Speaker 7: But we have seen cousins when things are going right

680
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Speaker 7: for the Vikings, and know really beet it to those

681
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Speaker 7: two guys. So my bold DFS call is both Steeling

682
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Speaker 7: and Diggs get over twenty DraftKings points this week against

683
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Speaker 7: that banged up Dolphin secondary. My bold that call will

684
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Speaker 7: be the Raiders go into Cincinnati and get an outright victory.

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Speaker 5: I laughed at Chris Rabon.

686
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Speaker 7: I shouldn't have laughed because he was giving Derek Carr

687
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Speaker 7: some props on our last podcast. And hey, I mean,

688
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Speaker 7: if you pull up his stats from this year and

689
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Speaker 7: compare him to his alleged twenty sixteen MVP candid season,

690
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Speaker 7: I don't think he should have enough for the award then.

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Speaker 5: But if you just compare the stats, the Raiders.

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Speaker 7: Are more or less getting the best Derek car they've

693
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Speaker 7: ever gotten this year, believe it or not. So if

694
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Speaker 7: that terrible defense can at least slow down Jeff driscoing company,

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Speaker 7: I think a Car and those guys have enough to

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Speaker 7: get it done against the league who are scoring defense.

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Speaker 7: So give me digs and deeling and I'll take the

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Speaker 7: Raiders to win.

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Speaker 1: All right, Sean, what do you have?

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Speaker 8: I'm sticking with this game the Bengals Raiders. I have

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Speaker 8: this going way over the total and scoring sixty or

702
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Speaker 8: more points. And for DFS, I'm sticking with my my

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Speaker 8: QB theme. I think the top scoring QB on the

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Speaker 8: main slate will be fifty two one hundred or or

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Speaker 8: less nice Pete's that's including Eli Manning, by the way,

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Speaker 8: because I think, like I have a feeling, there might

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Speaker 8: be some situation where they announce, you know, they'll go

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Speaker 8: with Well for the rest of the season, and this

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Speaker 8: could be like Eli's final game narrative.

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Speaker 4: Do you guys think that's possible at all?

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Speaker 2: Or I'm playing better though that's the issue. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Probably it could be, though I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be like Kobe Bryant last

714
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Speaker 8: game era if I'm assuming he'll just dump it off

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Speaker 8: to Barkley the whole game. But it could be an

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Speaker 8: interesting angle if they do announce something like that.

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Speaker 1: Pete, what do you got?

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Speaker 9: I can't I can't even go to Amari Cooper because

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Speaker 9: it's not bold this week considering he's the chalk. So

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Speaker 9: I'll move away from that and I'll say Tampa Bay

721
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Speaker 9: shows up in a big way here and gets the

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Speaker 9: w like the Godwin call from Ian I think he

723
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Speaker 9: burned everyone last week. He comes in and low owned

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Speaker 9: and win someone the millionaire maker. Tampa Bay wins wins

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Speaker 9: this game behind Jamis and Godwin.

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Speaker 6: Okay, for the game. The Giants are favored by two

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Speaker 6: and a half at home. I don't think they're good

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Speaker 6: enough to be laying points to any team not starting

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Speaker 6: a backup quarterback. The Titans are coming off a big

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Speaker 6: Thursday night win, so they have extra time to prepare

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Speaker 6: for the game. They're still fighting for a playoff spot.

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Speaker 6: At seven and six, they're in a must win game.

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Speaker 6: The Giants really have little to nothing to play for

734
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Speaker 6: their last in the league in past Dvoa against number

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Speaker 6: one wide receivers. I think the Titans win by double digits.

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Speaker 6: And then my bold fantasy call, this is wild. Last

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Speaker 6: week we saw the Dolphins troll the Pats and getting

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Speaker 6: two touchdowns to former Patriots special team or Brandon Bolden.

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Speaker 6: I think this week we see something similar with Steven

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Speaker 6: Ridley getting two goal line touchdowns in a hashtag revenge game.

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Speaker 6: I'm sort of joking, but I actually might consider putting

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Speaker 6: money on his touchdown prop. Which brings us to the

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Speaker 6: the prop betting segment of the show, in which the

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Speaker 6: odds maker sets lines for us. Scott the intern turned

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Speaker 6: producers back in action. Shout out to Scott for the

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Speaker 6: new baby. So we have updated standings for the season,

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Speaker 6: our guests continue to impress at eighty six and seventy one.

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Speaker 6: I am eighty five and sixty six, Pete is sixty

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Speaker 6: five and seventy five, and the odds maker is two

750
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Speaker 6: twelve to two thirty six. So sneaking back toward five hundred.

751
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Speaker 6: I got to say, I've had two straight losing weeks.

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Speaker 6: I'm not happy about it. I crushed in week twelve,

753
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Speaker 6: Sean crushed in week thirteen. We were all around five

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Speaker 6: hundred last season, Sean, this is my week. I'm telling you, like,

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Speaker 6: get out of my way, or I will stiff arm

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Speaker 6: you like Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean I made one prop specifically for you, so

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Speaker 8: hopefully that helps.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be the one I miss. So yeah.

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Speaker 6: So just a reminder everyone Shawn's projections be sure to

762
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Speaker 6: check them out in our Fantasy Labs models as well

763
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 6: as our props tools, which aggregate the player props from

764
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Speaker 6: online sports books and then compares them to Shawn's projections

765
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Speaker 6: and shows you which bets provide the most value. This season,

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Speaker 6: the props with a back quality of ten have gone

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Speaker 6: two hundred and twelve ninety six and eleven, which is

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Speaker 6: a hit rate of sixty six, So be sure to

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Speaker 6: check out the props tool at Fantasy Laps for subscribers only.

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Speaker 6: Sean give us the props for this week.

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Speaker 8: All right, So first up, Ian had some great points

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Speaker 8: on it earlier. But it's been really tricky for me

773
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Speaker 8: to project Josh Allen's rushing yards. So I'm gonna have

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Speaker 8: you guys help me sort that out. Right now, I

775
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Speaker 8: have his over under a fifty and a half rushing yards.

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Speaker 5: I love this under here.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, like I was saying earlier, only nineteen percent

778
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Speaker 7: of his runs this year have been on design play,

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Speaker 7: so he's just scrambling around making plays with Hey, it's

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Speaker 7: been working. Obviously, we're seeing like Michael Vick esque usually

781
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Speaker 7: production not even a joke, but.

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Speaker 5: Look, this is just like the worst possible matchup.

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Speaker 7: The Lions have allowed sixty two rushing yards to quarterbacks

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Speaker 7: all season. I mean, they run a ton of zone

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Speaker 7: guys you know, usually have their you know eyes the

786
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Speaker 7: line of scrimmage, and it would it would be less

787
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Speaker 7: of an issue if they were facing guy like Lamar

788
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Speaker 7: Jackson more or less being used the running back.

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Speaker 5: But we've seen Dak go for two yard Russell Wilson fifteen,

790
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Speaker 5: Trubisky eighteen.

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Speaker 7: Camilly had two against the Lions, So hey, Lions might

792
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Speaker 7: have a terrible defense, but man, can they stop that?

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Speaker 5: Qb run so Ian.

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Speaker 6: I have a question I want to ask you about

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Speaker 6: this so I and the statistic you pointed out. I

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Speaker 6: think it makes a lot of sense just in terms

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Speaker 6: of Josh Allen as a passer, Like if his first

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Speaker 6: read isn't there, he's just pulling the ball down and running.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that he's going to still do that

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Speaker 6: in this game? Like he's going to have a similar

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Speaker 6: number of rushing attempts as we've seen, but he's just

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Speaker 6: going to do it with much less effectiveness because of

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Speaker 6: the zone that the Lions play. Or do you think

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Speaker 6: because the Lions play more of his zone, he's just

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Speaker 6: not going to run the.

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Speaker 1: Ball as frequently his as he has in the past

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Speaker 1: few games.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think he's going to be running it

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Speaker 7: as frequently because I think the rushing lanes that are

810
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Speaker 7: usually there for him are going to be occupied with defenders.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, that should open up, you know, ideally more

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Speaker 7: downfield opportunities. I'm kind of impression that this is a

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Speaker 7: kind of it's gonna this game is gonna go very

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Speaker 7: well for the Bills. I think their offense is gonna

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Speaker 7: have a hard time moving the ball without Allen's rushing ability.

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Speaker 7: And I don't think he's disciplined enough to kind of

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Speaker 7: consistently win passing the ball. So I'm not gonna have

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Speaker 7: much exposure to the Bill's offense with all this week.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a hard one for me. I'm going

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00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 6: I'm going to take the over, and I know I'm

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Speaker 6: being the donkey by taking the over. I just think

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Speaker 6: since he's returned, like there's just been a switch that's

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Speaker 6: kind of like flipped in his head of like if

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Speaker 6: his read isn't there, he's just taking off and running

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Speaker 6: and kind of doing his best Cam Newton impersonation.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I know it's not a good matchup for him to

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Speaker 6: do that, but I don't know. I think he's just

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Speaker 6: just going to like run probably ten to thirteen times

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Speaker 6: this game, and I think that gives him a really

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Speaker 6: good chance of going over.

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Speaker 2: Well under, I got to make up some ground and freedman.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm taking the donkey side on this.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see what. Like Bobada throws up

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Speaker 8: I think he'll be close. So next up, Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 8: just had his OC fired after that just dreadful performance

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Speaker 8: on Mint Football. I'm curious to see or hear what

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Speaker 8: you guys think how he's gonna do this week at

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Speaker 8: home against the Dolphins. Right now, I have his over

840
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 8: under passing yards at two seventy five and a half over.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the over there.

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Speaker 7: I do think there are a few pauses for a

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Speaker 7: concern to I mean, he's kind of had a gnostic

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Speaker 7: home away splits throughout his career, so I wouldn't say

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Speaker 7: going back to Dome is necessarily a great thing for him.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, I think just having this new OC, they're

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00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 7: still in the playoff human, they're gonna try to kick

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Speaker 7: in the gear.

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Speaker 6: So I'll take the over Sean. What was that line again,

850
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Speaker 6: two seventy five? Yeah, I think it's pretty good. I'm

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00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 6: gonna take the under, all right.

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Speaker 8: Next up, Josh Johnson total DK points at Jacksonville over

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Speaker 8: under thirteen and a half over he can run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking over too.

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Speaker 5: I'm taking the under.

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00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 7: We saw him run in some garbage time and it's

857
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 7: a bad Giants defense. I mean, I know the Jaguars

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Speaker 7: shouldn't have our benefit of the doubt at this point either,

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Speaker 7: But man, I mean, the guy's down sixteen passes since

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Speaker 7: twenty eleven. I mean, I gotta take the under no

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Speaker 7: matter what it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty five k points and like just under a half.

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Speaker 2: Nuts.

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Speaker 6: He was a good running quarterback, you know, like back

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Speaker 6: in the day, like two thousand and nine, twenty eleven,

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Speaker 6: and then in college at.

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Speaker 1: San Diego State.

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Speaker 6: I believe, no San Diego, it was just San Diego,

869
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 6: but like under John Harbaugh, he was a good running

870
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 6: quarterback in college. So like, I think that's just kind

871
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 6: of like his style of game.

872
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 8: Next up, running back Derrick Henry po rushing yards at

873
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 8: the Giants over under sixty four and a half.

874
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 7: I'll go under and say he doesn't have his second

875
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 7: best game of the season.

876
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: I'll go under two.

877
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: I like that call, Okay, I will I'll take the ander.

878
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 8: Next up, Jalen Samuels, assuming Connor is out again this week, obviously,

879
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 8: total rush plus receiving yards versus the Patriots over under

880
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 8: eighty two and a half.

881
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: I was hoping you throw out a low number.

882
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: I'll take the under.

883
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 7: I'll take the over here just because I think there's

884
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 7: a scenario where Samuels maybe Advance McDonald wind up kind

885
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 7: of getting a bunch of opportunities to eat the middle

886
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 7: of the field. If I mean, if New England's able

887
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 7: to take away these two receivers, pretty freaking hard to do.

888
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 7: But Samuels and Vance would be the next guy's up

889
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 7: to eat those targets, and we did see.

890
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 5: Dolvin Cook and al Drick Robinson.

891
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 7: I think go for ten and nine targets when the

892
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 7: Vikings and Patriots play.

893
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 5: So I'll take the other.

894
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to take the over. I thought you

895
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 2: throw it a little lower number.

896
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: In the Patriots' biggest weakness on defenses. They're so slow

897
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 3: in the middle of the field, especially a linebacker, which

898
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 3: really sets up well for sam Mules. I'll still take

899
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 3: the over. But that's an aggressive line.

900
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 4: All right.

901
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 8: So I think this question is very important for cash

902
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 8: games this week. But who do you think will score

903
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 8: more DK points? Saquon Barkley or Zeke Elliott.

904
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: That's tough.

905
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 4: I haven't pretty much tied at the moment.

906
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 7: I'm going to Saquon just because I think Beckham seems

907
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 7: to be still banged up, and I mean, we saw

908
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 7: Saquon get fourteen carries and five targets last week and

909
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 7: thirty one snaps. He they even played fifty percent of

910
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 7: snaps because they were up so much. And I mean,

911
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 7: after that whole situation, I thought, kind of the sting

912
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 7: Shepherd's kind of number one now. But the biggest thing

913
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 7: from Obj not being there, I think is they're going

914
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 7: to feed Barkley as much as humanly possible. So I

915
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 7: think the Titans will be able to keep this one

916
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 7: a little bit closer than Park Sanchez and the Redskins could.

917
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 7: So four quarters of Barkley as the the man, I

918
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 7: will take him.

919
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with that as well.

920
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 6: I think he has a higher ceiling, maybe even slightly

921
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 6: higher floor, and in the end, he's a home favorite,

922
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 6: whereas Zeke is a road dog.

923
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, I have to go Saquon too. I mean, he's

924
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 9: more expensive. I think Zeke's a better value. I think

925
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 9: they're gonna end up with almost identical props and projections.

926
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 9: But give me Saquon at home with the PPR scoring.

927
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 9: He's still even though Elliot's getting more involved, he should

928
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 9: see a lot of opportunities.

929
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: So I'll take Saquon.

930
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 8: All right, this one's for you, Freedman. I was gonna

931
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 8: have a line on this, but I actually, as of

932
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 8: right now, I have them having the same yardage prop

933
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 8: So who will have more receiving yards this week?

934
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 4: Antonio Brown or Juju Smith Schuster.

935
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 6: This is annoying because I was hoping that you were

936
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 6: going to skew this towards Juju and I could take

937
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 6: Antonio at pass yards.

938
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 8: When I wrote that, I had you know, Brown with

939
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 8: like four more receiving yards, but as of right now,

940
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 8: I have him both at eighty two.

941
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 4: So to pick.

942
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 9: Him, I'm gonna go contrarian and say Beckham or Antonio Brown.

943
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do it as well. I actually

944
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 6: I don't even think that. I mean, I don't know

945
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 6: if that's contrariyan or not. I know, Juju obviously has

946
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 6: more yards for the season, but I actually think that

947
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 6: based on how they have covered really strong slot receivers

948
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 6: in the past, they are going to look to take

949
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 6: away Juju and like kind of like from a game

950
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 6: three perspective, like it's always hard to know how Belichick

951
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 6: is going to game plan, but I could see them

952
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 6: doing a thing where it's like we're going to take

953
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 6: away everyone else except Antonio Brown and hope that Gilmore

954
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 6: is good enough to beat him on a few plays.

955
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 5: So I don't know.

956
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: I will go with Antonio. I think it's a good

957
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: spot for him.

958
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going with Ab.

959
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 7: As well mentioned earlier, I'll be kind of fading Juju

960
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 7: this week, just think he could kind of just just

961
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 7: get skimmed out of the game potentially.

962
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 5: But as Friedman said, I mean, always.

963
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 7: Kind of a always a difficult task to kind of

964
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 7: predict what Bill Belichick those guys.

965
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 5: Are going to do. I will say it that.

966
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 7: I mean, I think at this point we can easily

967
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 7: call Ju Smiths shoots are the best, I mean, second

968
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 7: best receiver AB has ever played with. It was more

969
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 7: or less a running back Leveon Bell for these last

970
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 7: three or four years, even without that, we have seen

971
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 7: Ab kind of consistently produce against the Patriots. He's gone,

972
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 7: you know, one hundred and thirty three yards and a touchdown,

973
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 7: one hundred and six yards seventy seven yards last kind

974
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 7: of three full appearances against them. So even when Ab

975
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 7: was the only guy in the offense for Bellichick to

976
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 7: deal with, he was still able to have moderate success.

977
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 7: So I'll say this week that moderate success is huge

978
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 7: success and go with ab all Right.

979
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 8: Next up, Kenny Galladay. I keep waiting for him a breakout,

980
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 8: and he just keeps getting worse. Granted, he did, you know,

981
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 8: have to go up against Patrick Peterson last week, but

982
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 8: still two catches for five yards and no touchdowns.

983
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 4: I really don't know what to do with him this

984
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 4: week at Buffalo.

985
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's really Stafford's fault, but right

986
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 8: now I have his overrunner at sixty and a half

987
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 8: receiving yards.

988
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: I will take the under.

989
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 7: I wrote down sixty in my notes, Dan, I'm taking

990
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 7: the I'm taking the over here. I was off on

991
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 7: this last week, but Galladay only ended up running about

992
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 7: sixty percent of his routes on Peterson. I think the

993
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 7: bigger problem was that Stafford had the fourth view his

994
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 7: pass attempts of his career last week. I mean, just

995
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 7: pretty much the worst possible game flow to go with

996
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 7: that matchup. I mean, this week's matchup really isn't all

997
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 7: that much easier. Is you go to see Tredevious White,

998
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 7: one of the best young cornerbacks in the league, on

999
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 7: you know, potentially even more than six percent of his routes.

1000
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 7: But I just think Galladay still is the clear cut

1001
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 7: number one receiver in that offense. Now Bruce Ellington's even

1002
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 7: more banged up, I think he's got the talent to

1003
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 7: uh not have that terrible of a game in two

1004
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 7: consecutive weeks. So I'll take the over beate.

1005
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 9: Man, I'll take under I've wanted him to just go off.

1006
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 9: It's a tough matchup, but I love Galladay higher being

1007
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 9: the media and just a brutal matchup unfortunately.

1008
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 6: I mean, like we've talked before about how Buffalo's defense

1009
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 6: is really good, but like Trdavious White, like he had

1010
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 6: a really good rookie year last year, and I don't

1011
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 6: think he got the credit he kind of deserved for

1012
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 6: it because he was overshadowed by Marshaw Lattimore who had

1013
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 6: just like a phenomenal rookie season as a cornerback in

1014
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 6: New Orleans. But yeah, I mean I think tra Davis White,

1015
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 6: he's kind of you know, he's like proven himself once

1016
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 6: again in a sophomore campaign. Like he's he's a very

1017
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 6: good corner I mean, I don't know if like we

1018
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 6: can call him yet like a shutdown type of corner,

1019
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 6: but he has a lot of potential, Like I think

1020
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 6: it's on the way there for.

1021
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: Him, a right, So moving on to tight end.

1022
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 8: George Kittle at home against Seattle over under seventy three

1023
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 8: and a half, receiving arts over.

1024
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take the over.

1025
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 7: I think I was a little worried last week about

1026
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 7: him and Pettis with Marquis Goodwin coming back from his

1027
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 7: personal leave, But I mean it makes sense that Goodwin

1028
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 7: probably just elevates the whole offense and helps all these guys.

1029
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 7: I mean he's got, you know, legit field stretching speed

1030
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 7: on the outside. Obviously a Kittle and Pettis are working

1031
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 7: a lot inside underneath stuff. So we can see a

1032
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 7: pretty pote forty nine is passing offense these last few weeks.

1033
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 7: Apparently we know Kyle Shanahan isn't taking his foot off

1034
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 7: the gas.

1035
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 5: So I'll take the over here.

1036
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: At the over It's an easy one for me too.

1037
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 6: Sean random question to be the ender. Random question if

1038
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 6: you had to power rank like tight ends right now,

1039
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 6: where would Kittle rank for you? And you know, in

1040
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 6: terms of fantasy, just in terms of like overall kind

1041
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 6: of like ability as an NFL tight end, you know,

1042
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 6: like I think Kelsey's probably number one, Kittle might be

1043
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 6: number two for me.

1044
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, over Ertz, I could Yeah, I would argue with that,

1045
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 8: but i'd probably I'd probably have Kittle third right now. Yeah, yeah,

1046
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 8: he's He's definitely top three. So the there's a trio

1047
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 8: of tight ends just under Kittle that I think we

1048
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 8: need to pay attention to this week. So I have

1049
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 8: a total touchdowns prop by all three. So gronk Ebron,

1050
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 8: and Jared Cook, Well they combine for over under one

1051
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 8: and a half receiving touchdowns.

1052
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: Smash, smash the over. Ebron gets it ry himself.

1053
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 7: I like how sean to say receiving touchdowns because we're

1054
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 7: talking about Eric Ebron here, So yeah.

1055
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: The rushing touchdo when he's sneaking.

1056
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 10: Oh man, I'll take the under here all right, Last,

1057
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 10: but not least, Vernon Davis at Jacksonville, No, Jordan Reed

1058
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 10: over under forty three and a half receiving urns.

1059
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: Hey, it's a really good line. I'll take the over,

1060
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: but I do like that line.

1061
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 7: I'll take the over as a you guys have said,

1062
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 7: and makes sense for Johnson to focus more on Davis

1063
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 7: and not throw it outside against Ramsey and Boyer all

1064
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 7: that much. And look, we have seen Vernon a little

1065
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 7: bit this year. I mean, I guess the Cowboys he

1066
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 7: had like a nice sixty yard touchdown. The guys still

1067
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 7: got wheels, and he can still kind of make these

1068
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 7: splash plays we don't see from a lot of tight ends,

1069
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 7: so he could feasibly get that.

1070
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 5: You know yards prop on one or two catches. So

1071
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 5: I'll take the old.

1072
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 9: I guess I'm taking over too, but I don't have

1073
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 9: as much condition about you. Guys could just be really

1074
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 9: really ugly, But for David should get involved, and I

1075
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 9: think just from a scheme perspective, he should.

1076
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 2: Be the one that gets more targets than usual.

1077
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: All right, Ian, what pieces of yours are coming out

1078
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: this week?

1079
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 7: We got your wide Receiver, cornerback breakdown probably coming out

1080
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 7: later today along with matchup manifesto, looking at pace, explosive plays,

1081
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 7: run game, pass game everything higher level of view for

1082
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 7: the week, and then obviously Sunday night, as always, I'll

1083
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 7: be back on the pop of Chris Raymond and go

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