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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. Away.

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Speaker 2: We go to Nashville on Saturday for a Sunday tilt

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Speaker 2: with the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Noon kick.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait for that as the Texans conclude the regular season,

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Speaker 2: hopefully in a high note. Mark Vandermain and John Harris

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Speaker 2: with you. We've got a big two hours for you tonight.

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Speaker 2: That's right too, Rod Wright, d Line Coach is going

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Speaker 2: to join us. In the next segment. Johnny and I

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Speaker 2: will chop it up with a Who's better to Remember

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Speaker 2: and we'll get you in touch with some things you

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Speaker 2: might have missed with Cade Stover, Miles Bryant.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it all tonight.

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Speaker 3: We're on till eight and we start off the show

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Speaker 3: with the General.

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Speaker 1: John McClain.

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Speaker 2: All right, General, your thoughts should they rest guys? Play guys,

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Speaker 2: play them for a little bit, rest them after that?

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Speaker 2: How do they handle the game against the Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 2: in your opinion?

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Speaker 1: And then what do you think they do do?

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Speaker 4: First of all, guys, happy to do you. I love

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Speaker 4: this co weather tonight.

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Speaker 5: It's like to get out the long slaves and the

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Speaker 5: jackets every once in a while.

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Speaker 6: This is Colin.

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Speaker 5: I'm written on Houston Texans dot com. If it's not

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Speaker 5: posted tonight, it'll be posted early in the morning. About

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Speaker 5: playing on Christmas Day gives you enough of a break,

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Speaker 5: and considering how disappointing and inconsistent the offense has been,

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Speaker 5: whether it's passing, game run blocking, they need to play.

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Speaker 5: And I think this game is really important to win.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to go in the playoffs with three

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Speaker 5: consecutive losses. You don't want to get swept by one

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Speaker 5: of the worst teams in the league, that's your division rival,

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Speaker 5: and you need to build some momentum. The players need

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Speaker 5: some confidence. And I don't, you know, I don't the

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Speaker 5: defensive performance against Baltimore that could happen to anybody. Lamar

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Speaker 5: Jackson was just fabulous, and he's done it to the

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Speaker 5: Texans before.

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Speaker 4: He's five to zero.

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Speaker 5: But the offense has been out of sync the whole season,

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Speaker 5: and I think and Strout's been off targeting. He admitted

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Speaker 5: that was one of his worst games, and I think

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Speaker 5: he's just been hit so much, the pressure from the interior.

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Speaker 5: And I'm thinking about Sweat and Simmons, and I remember

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Speaker 5: after the loss to the Titans, which to me is

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Speaker 5: still the worst loss of this season, Simmons said, all

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Speaker 5: the coach told them, when the offensive line moves to

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Speaker 5: our right, don't move with them, stay where you are.

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Speaker 5: And when mix them tries to cut back, Boom, they

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Speaker 5: were right there. It just required discipline and they set

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Speaker 5: the edge and they totally shut him down. So the

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Speaker 5: fact that Sweat and Simmons are healthy and coming up

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Speaker 5: the middle, I'm guessing we're gonna see Stroud rolling out

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Speaker 5: a whole lot are getting rid of the ball real quick.

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Speaker 5: But I think the Texans need to win this game

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Speaker 5: because if they do, we can't say that a worse

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Speaker 5: season than last year.

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Speaker 4: They'd be ten and seven again.

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Speaker 5: And then if they could beat Pittsburgh, maybe the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: I'd rather play Pittsburgh if you're a Texans fair they

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Speaker 5: would if they're playing here at me as they've lost

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Speaker 5: three in a row and Russell Wilson's not playing. He's

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Speaker 5: playing like everybody expected him to and they beat him

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Speaker 5: here last year and people say, well, I was with

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Speaker 5: Kenny Pickett. No, I'm looking at the defense.

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Speaker 5: White played, high Smith played, and they kept them contained.

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Speaker 5: So I think if they could win that wildcard game

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Speaker 5: and lose on the road of course, but then with

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Speaker 5: a first play schedule you would have you would have

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Speaker 5: finished up exactly like you finished last season. Say people

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Speaker 5: can't say, well it's a failure, and you would end

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Speaker 5: on a high note, win in the last game, win

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Speaker 5: in the wildcard game at NRG Stadium. So I think

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Speaker 5: they're gonna take it seriously. I think the starter's going

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Speaker 5: to start, and I think they're going to beat the Titans.

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Speaker 3: General, very rarely do two teams fan bases in the

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Speaker 3: same game want the same team to win. But I

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Speaker 3: feel like the Tennessee Titans fans and media are kind

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Speaker 3: of like we were a couple of years ago. You

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Speaker 3: can't win this game. You've got the first second pick

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Speaker 3: walked up. You can't win this game. So I guess

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Speaker 3: they're gonna start Mason Rudolph and maybe Will Levis.

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Speaker 1: Maybe start Levis and then Rudolph.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they're doing, but what are the

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Speaker 3: wear the oilers uniforms again, which they got beat in

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Speaker 3: last year. This is kind of a weird spot where

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Speaker 3: because they could end up with it because and The

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Speaker 3: difference is this in twenty twenty two, if we lost,

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Speaker 3: we just we won. We ended up with a second pick.

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Speaker 3: If they win, they end up with like the eighth

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Speaker 3: or ninth pick. So that's a precipitous drop for them

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Speaker 3: if they win this game. How weird is this for

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of talk to somebody's gonna pay for

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Speaker 5: this hanging well. I don't think it's gonna be Brian Callahan.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's gonna be the general manager, Ran Carlton.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure they'm fire some coaches, like their special teams.

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Speaker 5: Coach Brian Callahan is not gonna fire his daddy, Bill Callahan,

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Speaker 5: who coaches the line in his right in men, But

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Speaker 5: exactly what you said, A lot of fans and all

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Speaker 5: the media want them to lose. Get the second pick.

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Speaker 5: You need a quarterback. There might be somebody who emerges.

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Speaker 5: I tell you who stands to lose the most of all.

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Speaker 5: If the Patriots win their last game, oh gosh, they

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Speaker 5: could have. If they lose, they'll have the first pick.

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Speaker 5: They've got their quarterback. They can sit there. We're open

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Speaker 5: for business. Who wants a quarterback, and so other teams

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Speaker 5: would come in, but if they I can't remember.

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Speaker 4: Who they played.

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Speaker 1: But it's like, who is it Buffalo?

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Speaker 5: And Buffalo is going to bench all of its starters,

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Speaker 5: but they don't want to win that game, and the

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Speaker 5: Titans don't eat the paulk Arski from Balkarsky dot com

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Speaker 5: he wrote a really good column yesterday about the pitfalls

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Speaker 5: of winning this game. He said, yes, Amy, and it

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Speaker 5: was written to Amy Adams Trunk. Yes, we know what

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Speaker 5: it means to you to beat handam in there, and

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Speaker 5: we know what it means to you to.

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Speaker 4: Beat the team that ran your daddy out of town.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, But in the long run, you're better

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Speaker 5: off to lose this game for just the reasons. John explained,

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Speaker 5: I don't know how many people are going to show

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Speaker 5: But I don't think playing on the road is going

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Speaker 5: I can't wait to see what they do Callahan say

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Speaker 5: he's gonna play both quarterbacks, and it doesn't look like

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Speaker 5: he's talking about playing one and playing the other, like

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Speaker 5: playing him back and forth, which I don't buy at all.

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Speaker 5: I don't think anybody's done that since Tom Landry in

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Speaker 4: If I would, then I would.

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Speaker 5: Play Levis because Levis played great against the Texans. Why

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Speaker 5: and plus maybe Levis has another great game. And even

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Speaker 5: if you don't like him and you want another quarterback,

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Speaker 5: maybe it helps you to five or six instead of

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Speaker 1: You never know what people are thinking.

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Speaker 2: The last game against the Titans in twenty thirteen, Texans

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Speaker 2: having a terrible year, I figured they'd start case Keenum.

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Speaker 2: Why not start him again, right, put him back in

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Speaker 2: the lineup. He had eight starts already, hadn't won any

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Speaker 2: of them. Start him against the Titans. Learned something more

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Speaker 2: about case Ketum. They started Matt shopping lost, and he

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Speaker 2: ended his career as a Texan with an interception. Of course,

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Speaker 2: of course, Matt, but you know it was a bad.

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Speaker 4: Year, which one reason Gary could be a good fired bob.

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Speaker 1: He was already calm by that Case.

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Speaker 4: By the last game. Yeah, yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 5: One of the reasons he got fired was he put

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Speaker 5: put Matt back in the lineup yep, instead of Case.

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Speaker 5: Bob wanted to see Case play the rest of the

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Speaker 5: year to see if Case had anything to be the

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Speaker 2: I think they had the number one pick locked up

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Speaker 2: before that game or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this general, and Amy Adams can

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Speaker 2: do whatever she wants. I mean, it's her team. Great,

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Speaker 2: but it's interesting to me how you go to Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: You get a new stadium in nineteen ninety nine, and

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Speaker 2: now twenty six years less than twenty five years later,

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Speaker 2: you promised a new one, so it opens one in

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Speaker 2: two three years whatever. They're gonna get a brand new,

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Speaker 1: At the time, it was good enough.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's wonderful when Nashville has done for them,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not saying they don't appreciate it, but it's

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Speaker 2: just still so bizarre to me that they celebrate the

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Speaker 2: In my personal opinion, they're gonna go oilers again.

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Speaker 5: Well, their history is with the oilers. She knows what

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Speaker 5: her daddy. And originally when they started talking about that,

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Speaker 5: fans didn't care. And then when they started putting the

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Speaker 5: jerseys in the gift shops and sell them online, fans realize,

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Speaker 5: that's a pretty cool color. That's just like here, that's

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Speaker 5: lot of people wearing Columbia blue, and it drives people

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Speaker 5: everybody but Bruce Matthews. Bruce is an outspoken that Columbia

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Speaker 5: But Pastorini and Brazil and Moon and all those other

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Speaker 4: Bruce means won by them, more power to them.

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Speaker 2: Bruce means the uniforms though, because the color. The Titans

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Speaker 2: do wear that color. I mean, they weren't here. They

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Speaker 2: wear the blue of Columbia. Whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 2: it's the same.

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Speaker 5: They just got a little piece of it on there.

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Speaker 5: He's talking to Yes, the uniforms Columbia blue or his

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Speaker 5: budd used to call it Colombian blue. When he introduced

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Speaker 5: will be Colombian blue sweets.

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Speaker 4: And he kept saying Colombian blue.

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Speaker 5: And I said, Bud Well Cocaine, come with that, and

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Speaker 5: he looked at me like, what in the world are

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Speaker 4: In the pr guy, next question exactly general.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you were out there for the

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Speaker 3: press or Mark and I were in here talk with

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Speaker 3: Rod right.

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Speaker 1: I was later on, did you get a chance here,

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Speaker 4: They know they need another quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Well, that plans out the window. Then, I mean, you

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Speaker 2: But General's talking about the rumors that they might want

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Speaker 5: If he plays his last game on Sunday night and

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Speaker 5: Is next year's drafts supposed to be good for quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm trying to think who's in that classroom the

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Speaker 1: No, it were you Weres.

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Speaker 3: He's this year though he might be.

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Speaker 3: Oh, oh, if you Weres does transfer, you know who

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Speaker 1: One arch Manning. No, he's he's going to stay in school.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna skip college and the pros and go straight

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Speaker 3: But you're right, general, the Vikings. The Vikings have as

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Speaker 1: Four draft picks.

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Speaker 6: That's a compick.

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Speaker 1: McCarthy week one.

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Speaker 5: I think what they would do then is not trade McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is exactly right.

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Speaker 4: Why would they? Why in the world would they keep him?

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Speaker 1: Let me present Devil's advocate. But I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, but I think they need to

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't blow it up in Jacksonville. I

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Speaker 2: That's the most perplexing situation, not that it hasn't resulted

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Speaker 2: Absolutely inexplicable. All right, General John mcclan is with us

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Speaker 3: General, call you shot Detroit, Minnesota. For all of the

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Speaker 4: Love this game.

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Speaker 5: It's one of the best last games I can remember,

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Speaker 5: There's just no way. I think it'll be great. A

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Speaker 1: Kyle Allen was Heeke playing for them. That year a

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Speaker 2: Among the following teams, who's the most likely to disappoint

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Speaker 5: but I would just say because he's playing great. But

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Speaker 5: and they have veteran leadership. One of the smartest things

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Speaker 5: that dan Quinn did was bringing veterans who were proven

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Speaker 5: leaders with other teams. But if I had to pick one,

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Speaker 5: I would go against the rookie.

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Speaker 1: Let me throw green Bay in the mix. By green

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Speaker 1: Bay hot hot? You think so? You think they playing

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Speaker 1: pay at eleven and five.

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't play seeding. You well against the Minnesota

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Speaker 3: that's going in the Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: They played great against everybody except Detroit and Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly.

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Speaker 2: They've won every other game except Detroit and Minnesota since

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Speaker 2: actually since opening weekend.

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Speaker 3: Gets in the playoffs with teams from the same division

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Speaker 3: nineteen als seth nineteen ninety nine, the Jaguars beat everybody

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Speaker 3: but the Tennessee Titans, and then the Titans beat them

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Speaker 3: three third time in the AFC Championship game in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 5: Jeff Fisher said after that home on an interview with

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Speaker 5: Live the Network that jackson Bille would come their home

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Speaker 5: away from home, their second home, and of course next

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Speaker 5: time they played there, they got killed.

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Speaker 3: You know who is the quarterback in Carolina in twenty

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Speaker 3: two So Baker Mayfield started six games, he was one

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Speaker 3: in five he was six and six, six td six interceptions.

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Speaker 3: Donald started six times. He was four and two. Because

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Speaker 3: he closed he closed the season pretty well. He threw

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Speaker 3: seven touchdowns, three interceptions. Who filled in for those two

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Speaker 3: when they were banged up or moved on Houston roughnecks Own.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Walker, he was actually two and three as

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Speaker 3: a starter in three three touchdowns, three interceptions.

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Speaker 1: PJ. Walker was the guy they went to.

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Speaker 3: I'll not forget when he won a game and he

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Speaker 3: went rolling into the locker room. I'll never forget this

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Speaker 3: video with the Panthers and they just explode.

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Speaker 1: They were so excited for him to get a start. PJ. Walker,

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Speaker 1: what was the record in twenty twenty two?

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Speaker 6: Do you have it?

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Speaker 1: Seven? Ten, seven and twenty two Panthers? Yeah, seven and ten.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they have four wins this year and they're the

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Speaker 5: most talented backup quarterback in history football.

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Speaker 3: Probably so, probably so, Rob Johnson. The Jaguars is like

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Speaker 3: a word one more quick one. What does Demico do

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Speaker 3: on Sunday? He starts the starters, I'll put that at

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Speaker 3: air quotes. Does he pull them as the game progresses?

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Speaker 3: In your opinion?

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Speaker 1: What should he do? What will he do?

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Speaker 5: I then you'll play him leaves to have and I

487
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Speaker 5: think if they build up, say seven to ten point lead,

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Speaker 5: it'll pull him out. But I also think he if

489
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Speaker 5: he's talked so much about how important it is to

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Speaker 5: play well, if they play well, they'll come out sooner.

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Speaker 5: If they have another one score game, a three point game,

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Speaker 5: they could go the distance.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I hate conceding a game, but I want to keep

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Speaker 2: everybody healthy for next especially to them. Yes, general, So

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Speaker 2: you have that column in Houston Texans dot Com on Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much, guys, I appreciate it. Happy New Year,

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Speaker 5: you guys have a fun time in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: We will Happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: Coming up defensive line coach Rod Right, among other things

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Speaker 2: here on Texans Radio. As we return here to the

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Speaker 2: Hunday Texans Radio studio, let's get into it with defensive

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Speaker 2: line coach and Longhorn.

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Speaker 1: Rod Right. Coach, how's it going, Happy New Year?

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Speaker 6: I'm good. Happy New Year to Ease as well.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to start here. Your group, it seems so

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Speaker 2: tight knit. I know he sort of touched on this

508
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Speaker 2: last time, but usually we talk about the offensive line

509
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Speaker 2: being the most tight group on the team, but it

510
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Speaker 2: feels like the defensive line. You guys have nicknames, all

511
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Speaker 2: the identity, there's a lot of camaraderie. What about that

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Speaker 2: part of it, Coach.

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Speaker 6: Well, it comes from probably my former playing days. I

514
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Speaker 6: feel like my best experiences were on d lines that

515
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Speaker 6: were close. So I tried to myself and coach Nate,

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Speaker 6: I'll try to create a culture in the room where

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Speaker 6: those guys can bond together. You know. So from nicknames

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Speaker 6: to Christmas with at our gift giving, even the coaches

519
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Speaker 6: were involved in it from just like the way we meet,

520
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Speaker 6: being very open with our communication and just giving them

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Speaker 6: the floor to be themselves and giving them the opportunity

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Speaker 6: to bond together. We've kind of created that kind of

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Speaker 6: culture in our room to create those connections.

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Speaker 3: Coaches, might be a tough question to answer, yes, but

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Speaker 3: offensive line, defensive line. This late in the year, man,

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Speaker 3: it has been sixteen battles inside.

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Speaker 1: Guys beat up.

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Speaker 3: Who knows who's got what that's hurt, that's not on

529
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Speaker 3: the injury report, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Especially amongst your guys.

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Speaker 3: How do you keep them as fresh as possible to

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Speaker 3: get them ready for Sundays at this point of the year.

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Speaker 6: Well, it really it really starts with Sundays. The way

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Speaker 6: we play, we were pretty deep, so we rotate a lot.

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Speaker 6: We never try to have guys play too many snaps

536
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Speaker 6: when it comes to as far as our rotation goes,

537
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Speaker 6: so that helps, and they are also just being intentional

538
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Speaker 6: with our rotation. From the first player practice of the

539
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Speaker 6: last player practice, myself and coach Nata get together and

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Speaker 6: strategically put guys in for certain many certain amount of reps.

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Speaker 6: And obviously we have recommendations from our sports science team

542
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Speaker 6: and so just understanding how many miles people have and

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Speaker 6: what kind of plays they need to they need to

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Speaker 6: take on, and just be aware of who has what

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Speaker 6: going on with him. And like I said, it does

546
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Speaker 6: start on Sunday as well, being able to rotate and

547
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Speaker 6: if you're up, you're gonna play for us. So that's

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Speaker 6: that kind of helps as well.

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Speaker 2: How do you handle the rotation on Sundays, because if

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Speaker 2: I'm Demiko Ryans, I'm thinking.

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Speaker 1: Hey, get will of the game right now, how do.

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Speaker 6: You do that?

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Speaker 1: Coach with the rest of the staff.

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Speaker 6: Now, that is the hard part. The hard part is

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Speaker 6: the rotation just kind of you know, coach Nate keeps

556
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Speaker 6: a keeps a rep count and just for me, you

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Speaker 6: you kind of just know early in the game you

558
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Speaker 6: want to get everybody involved. So in the later in

559
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Speaker 6: the game, maybe the Wheels and the d Nils who

560
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Speaker 6: closing the game out trying to trying to get to

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Speaker 6: that quarterback. You don't want to burn their energy early

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Speaker 6: in the game. So you just kind of be strategic

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Speaker 6: with you know, pick your pick your spots in the

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Speaker 6: first half. You don't want a guy to have, you know,

565
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Speaker 6: thirty plays in the first half and then he run

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Speaker 6: out of gas in the fourth quarter, So it's it's

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Speaker 6: it's just understanding, you know, maybe start out with this

568
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Speaker 6: group and then you get down into the red zone,

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Speaker 6: get these guys in and just kind of you kind

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Speaker 6: of gotta be thinking before and anticipating what's going to

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Speaker 6: happen off of how the series is going. So you

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Speaker 6: just gotta that is hard. That is the hardest part

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Speaker 6: of the game for for the D line coaches, just

574
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Speaker 6: trying to pick and choose when to put who in

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Speaker 6: and what time, and guys want to stay in the

576
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Speaker 6: game and some guys don't want to come off the field,

577
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Speaker 6: and you just try to get them to understanding early hey,

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Speaker 6: like trust trust the process and how we're doing. We're

579
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Speaker 6: doing because obviously we're in the NFL games and won

580
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Speaker 6: and lost in two minutes in the last in the

581
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Speaker 6: last series of the game. So you just trying to

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Speaker 6: make sure we have enough gas in the tanking that

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Speaker 6: part of the game.

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Speaker 3: Coach down on the field a lot of times spotting

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Speaker 3: for Mark during the games.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've been saying the name Togii a

587
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Speaker 1: lot lately.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, what is a big fella giving you? Since

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Speaker 6: he's got it tell me two times. Man, you know, uh,

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Speaker 6: so we one other thing we do in our room.

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Speaker 6: We always we always get on each other about the

592
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Speaker 6: colleges we play at.

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Speaker 1: So so me and.

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Speaker 6: Me and him or we beefing right now men Texas

595
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Speaker 6: versus Ohio State. So uh nah. Man love him, I

596
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Speaker 6: absolutely love him. He's a guy that came in I

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Speaker 6: want to say at the beginning of the year, didn't

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Speaker 6: know him from here or there. And we had some

599
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Speaker 6: injuries and we ended up watched a popped in practice

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Speaker 6: in our and one thing I always tell young guys,

601
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Speaker 6: man like, just because you're on scout team, don't mean

602
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Speaker 6: we're not going to watch that. He started popping and

603
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Speaker 6: scout team against our offense. I mean, every time you

604
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 6: look up, he's knocking somebody back, getting off the block

605
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Speaker 6: and making plays. And then there was opportunity. I believe

606
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Speaker 6: Foley was down for a game and we're like, man,

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Speaker 6: let's get let's let's see what this guy has. And

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Speaker 6: God is my witness the practice he had during the week,

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Speaker 6: it carried over to the game and one of his

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Speaker 6: best games, if not his best game, was against Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 6: I mean he was knocking people back I mean, I

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Speaker 6: believe last week he has seven seven tackles. So he's

614
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Speaker 6: a guy that has a great awareness, great with his hands,

615
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Speaker 6: has a great feel, knows how to get off of blocks,

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Speaker 6: and just make plays. Like if he's in the game,

617
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Speaker 6: he's gonna make a play. So that's that's and he

618
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Speaker 6: plays extremely har Other than the buck eye part, you know,

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Speaker 6: I like him.

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Speaker 1: He's he's also you know, for coaches too.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say he's found money, but he's

622
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Speaker 3: not a guy that's here in training camp. Yeah, you mean,

623
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Speaker 3: he's probably not even on your radar screen, and yet

624
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Speaker 3: he pops up here because you are having some injuries

625
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Speaker 3: up front and then all of a sudden he pops

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Speaker 3: on scout team. I mean, that's gotta be a great

627
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Speaker 3: lesson for you guys too, Hey, we can find somebody

628
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Speaker 3: like this when you bring him in.

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Speaker 1: You can't just think, ah, he's just a practice squad guy.

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Speaker 1: You bring him up.

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Speaker 3: I mean he at that time I think was on

632
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Speaker 3: the practice squad just got an elevation.

633
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Speaker 1: It's got to be a lesson for you too, in

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Speaker 1: a sense coach that you're.

635
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Speaker 3: Like, hey man, we can find players at any point

636
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Speaker 3: when they show up here. We's got to take everybody

637
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: and no matter what, give an opportunity, you never know

638
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Speaker 3: what happens.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely. I mean, you know, in this league, you're gonna

640
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Speaker 6: especially at D line, you're you're in old line, You're

641
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 6: gonna there's gonna somebody's gonna rolling ankle, somebody's gonna get

642
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 6: banged up. So you're you're gonna depend on that. What's

643
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Speaker 6: what's out there on the streets sometimes to come in

644
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Speaker 6: and contribute. Our scouts do a great job of asking

645
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Speaker 6: us really in the off season what we're looking for

646
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Speaker 6: and what's what's the makeup, what's the measurements? And honestly,

647
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Speaker 6: a big part of it. I think last time I

648
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Speaker 6: was here we talked about Mario. It's the it's the

649
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 6: makeup as well, like is this guy gonna be able

650
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Speaker 6: to come in because we do it different here. I

651
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Speaker 6: mean we're we're our mentality, our physicality, the effort we

652
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Speaker 6: play with, the type of person you are, Like, are

653
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Speaker 6: you gonna fit in the way the Texans? Uh do

654
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 6: our thing? You know? Are you gonna rep our style?

655
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Speaker 6: And that popped off the tape. He plays hard, He's

656
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Speaker 6: a perfect fit from a culture standpoint and then he's

657
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Speaker 6: able to grasp what we do schematically. And I mean

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Speaker 6: he actually was in this system before previously with Cleveland,

659
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Speaker 6: uh but a few years ago, so he was familiar

660
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 6: with it. And like I said, the rest is just

661
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 6: awesome person, tough, tough as nails. So it was just

662
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 6: a it was just a perfect fit. As he got

663
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 6: in here.

664
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Speaker 2: Rod Right, defensive line coach joining us here on Texans Radio.

665
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: All right, nicknames, what's your favorite nickname?

666
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 3: Now?

667
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: Your favorite player? Your favorite nickname for a player.

668
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be able to come in my room

669
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: the ones you can say on the radio.

670
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: Mind the ones that I.

671
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 6: Think all of our I think all of our nicknames

672
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 6: are are pretty good.

673
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 8: Man.

674
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 6: Obviously, obviously Cyborg and Terminator are great because they're both

675
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 6: just robots on the edge. Probably the probably the new

676
00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 6: one is probably probably Derek Barnett. We called so we were

677
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 6: calling him something else for a while that I actually

678
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 6: can't say on here, but uh, but we called him.

679
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 6: I don't know if y'all seen Suicide Squad with Will

680
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 6: Smith ballhead with the with the beard dead shot. So like,

681
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 6: so like one thing that we do, one thing that

682
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 6: we do. If you you get a chance. Look at

683
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 6: Will Smith and a picture next to uh Derek Barnett.

684
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 6: They look exactly alike. They got the beard, ball headed.

685
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 6: They're crazy. It's physical and like so we also like

686
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 6: we do we have a little fun like when a

687
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 6: guy makes a play, will show it to the to

688
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 6: the room and then after it, like whatever your nickname is,

689
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 6: will have like either a video or our picture of

690
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 6: the guy. Like and so one day Derek made a

691
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 6: play and then we put in a a quick video

692
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 6: of dead shot. And it's great because nobody, nobody knew

693
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 6: it was in there and then nobody we we didn't

694
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 6: even call him that, but as soon as they it flash,

695
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 6: everybody like, oh man.

696
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: So it's like, man, we know what you're gonna be

697
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: for Halloween in Dallas.

698
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 3: When that ball is on the ground and he picks

699
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 3: up and starts running, what are you thinking, because I mean,

700
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 3: your group doesn't get a lot of opportunity to have

701
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: a shot at an end zone like that, What are

702
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: you thinking?

703
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 6: Honestly, I mean at that point, like just getting the

704
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 6: end zone. I mean he was the guy who got

705
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 6: the sack and to pick up the ball and take

706
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 6: it and take it all the way like I'm just

707
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 6: I kind of was just getting the end zone, you know,

708
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 6: don't don't fumbl the ball. But I mean that was

709
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 6: that was an outstanding play. I mean, he he, he did,

710
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 6: he did it all to get the sack and to

711
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 6: scoop it and get in the end zone. Especially there,

712
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 6: man like that. That doesn't That's like a d line

713
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 6: d Linman's dream, you know, to get a sack, the scoop,

714
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 6: and the score all in one play. I don't know

715
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 6: if that's been done this season by anybody.

716
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: Especially in that building again that team.

717
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 6: Absolutely, and that's kind of I.

718
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: Mean for you Houston guy. I mean that's got a

719
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: trigger as well.

720
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 6: Absolutely. I mean I got a lot of texts after

721
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 6: that game. I mean from from Cowboy fans, from Texans fans,

722
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 6: and one of my aunt is a is a is

723
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 6: a diehard Dallas Cowboys Cowboy fan, and I know how

724
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 6: it is. But uh but no, that was. That was

725
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 6: an excellent play by him and something that he's gonna

726
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 6: remember the rest of his life.

727
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: Not to bring up a tough topic here, but we

728
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: are very upset about.

729
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: The Neil not making the Pro Bowl.

730
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you have a comment on

731
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: that because it just seems ridiculous. I mean, he's putting

732
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: up Defensive Player of the Year type numbers at least

733
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: in the conversation for that and then to not make

734
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl made it last year.

735
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of strange.

736
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, I mean danil uh the man he is.

737
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 6: You know, you know, he was upset obviously, but we

738
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 6: talked about it. He said, he's good. I mean, we're

739
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 6: we're our goal is to to not even be in

740
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 6: a situation ago. You know, you can get what I'm

741
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 6: saying there, But man, it's gonna it's gonna work itself out.

742
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 6: You know. I remember the same thing happened to Will

743
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 6: last year, and he was he was a first alternate

744
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 6: and and somebody didn't go and he got in. But

745
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 6: you know, not taking anything away from any of the

746
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 6: ends that got in. I mean, the AFC is extremely

747
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 6: hard to get in. I mean you look at the

748
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 6: names on there. But uh, just just for an opportunity

749
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 6: to just talk about our guys. I mean, our guys

750
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 6: were were double digit sacks before anybody we had, and

751
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 6: they they dominated on both sides, you know, in the

752
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 6: run game, and if they're not getting a sack. They're

753
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 6: getting the pressure and just the work that they put in,

754
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 6: so that that kind of you know, like I said,

755
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 6: not taking anything away from anybody, that's the part that's

756
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 6: just upsetting the most, because the way Will and the

757
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 6: Kneel work, you know what I'm saying, Like like they

758
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 6: work hard, they're always available, they're ready to go, and

759
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 6: the Nils made plays to close the game out. Will

760
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 6: has made played the close the game, uh the game out.

761
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,959
Speaker 6: So at the end of the day, man who knows

762
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 6: how to say, they're both alternates. I know Will got

763
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 6: in that way last year, but always want to be

764
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 6: recognized by your peers. But but it's gonna they're they're motivated,

765
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 6: so this going out, I will not be surprised if

766
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 6: they're they have some big games the rest of the

767
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 6: season because they're they're gonna they're gonna really want to

768
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 6: show who they are, improve why they should have gotten

769
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 6: the nod.

770
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: Coach, I know you got work to do, but I

771
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: gotta ask you, it's a big work week. You got

772
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: a game on Sunday, yet you mentioned it when we

773
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: ask you about Tommy. Yeah, did you get a chance

774
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 3: at any point? How were you taking in the Texas

775
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: game yesterday. Were you watching Mark Iward studio freaking out

776
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: watching it?

777
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: What about you? Did you get a chance to peak

778
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: at it? Their meetings before.

779
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 6: We were we were we were in the defensive staff room.

780
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 6: We had finished up with the what with Ross and

781
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 6: the practice, So the game is on and in the

782
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 6: defensive staff room and like, I'm getting all the pressure

783
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 6: from the coaches all rod so the missed field goals

784
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 6: and all that not not to talk down on the

785
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 6: field go we need them, We're gonna need them to,

786
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 6: uh to to win it all. But I'm getting all

787
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 6: the pressure, all the crap talking, and honestly, man I

788
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 6: just kind of went into that to that, to that,

789
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 6: to that even kill mode or just like just didn't panic.

790
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 6: I didn't panic when we missed we missed the second one.

791
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh my goodness. But it's just that's just

792
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 6: how that's just how we are man like at Texas.

793
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 6: I mean, I remember when we when we when we

794
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 6: won it all, man like just can't be shaken. I

795
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 6: mean I remember we're down twelve points or six right

796
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 6: six minutes left, and you had that little moment of like,

797
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 6: oh my goodness, we may not win this, but you

798
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 6: gotta get back to all right that what do we

799
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 6: need to do? And I think they did a heck

800
00:38:54,480 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 6: of a job. I mean they went in overtime, ASU

801
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 6: scored and that fourth and fifteen. I was at fourth

802
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 6: and fifteen or fourth and thirteen, nuts Man went from man,

803
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 6: hopefully we get a first down and continue to drive

804
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 6: to get the touchdown. And then the second touchdown. I

805
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 6: didn't even see it. I just looked up and we're

806
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 6: in the end zone.

807
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: It came back from break all a sudden. You see

808
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 3: him runing the bony zie Like, wait, that is that real?

809
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 3: But I was like, whoa, that happened fast.

810
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 6: And then and then the pick to seal it was

811
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 6: out was outstanding. So man's it's I try to be

812
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 6: when I when I'm watching my teams, when I'm watching Texas,

813
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 6: man like, I try to be like I am on

814
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 6: the sideline. Man, I can't be too high, can't be

815
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 6: too low. Just kind of got a level out. But

816
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 6: they did a heck of a job. And it's a

817
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 6: great Ohio State team coming into the Dalles Man. So

818
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 6: it's gonna it's gonna be on So so it's gonna

819
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 6: be some fun So.

820
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: Were you on the last team to play in the

821
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 3: Cotton Bowl for Texas because Texas hasn't been in a

822
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: Cotton Bowl since, oh since the LSU game the LSU

823
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: Cotton Bowl.

824
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 6: Was that Yeah, yeah, you're talking about two Yeah, yeah, the.

825
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: Last last Texas team to play in a cotton Yes, yes,

826
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: now you're going back.

827
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 6: Going back. So I didn't I did not know that,

828
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 6: but yeah, that's that was my that was my uh

829
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 6: my freshman year playing saving and uh we that was

830
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 6: a great game. And but yeah, they're going back to

831
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 6: the Cotton Bows. So it's gonna be it's gonna be

832
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 6: a fun one. I'm sure. I'm sorry it'll go down

833
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 6: to it'll be another go down to the to the finish.

834
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 6: But me and me and Tommy will be talking mess

835
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 6: for the next week about it. But no, it's uh,

836
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 6: kudos to those teams, man, It's it's awesome to see

837
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 6: teams compete and shoot, that's that's what the playoffs are about, man,

838
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 6: just finding a way. Man, get get hot and just

839
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 6: just keep winning. And you look up.

840
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: You that's the best game so far. Very good. Coach

841
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: likes a lot. Good, thank you.

842
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: There's defensive line coach and Longhorn rod Right joining us

843
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: on Texans ready coming up the injury report, What does

844
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 2: it have? What's new? And we'll have a Houston Methodist

845
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: minute and a full seven o'clock hour of programming, including

846
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 2: a Who's Better with Johnny that you will not want

847
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: to miss right out of the shoot at seven o'clock.

848
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: It's all coming up here on Texans, all access as promised.

849
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: As we get back into the show. Here injury report

850
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: information from your Texans Thursday practice heading into a Sunday

851
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: tilt at Tennessee now did not participate once again, Denico

852
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: Autry with a knee, Florunzo Photocasi with an ankle, and

853
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 2: Shaq Mason with a knee. I have my doubts about

854
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: those three playing on Sunday, to say the least. And

855
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: it's too bad, especially on that D line. I've talked

856
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: about fully Photocassi before and Deniko. You need those guys playing,

857
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: but particularly next week, of course, so we'll see how

858
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 2: it goes. Shack, I'm not sure he's not an IR

859
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: so that's encouraging, I suppose heading into the postseason, but.

860
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: We'll find out more.

861
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 2: Showing up on the did not participate list, is Jeff

862
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 2: Akuda with a concussion. That means it was sustained some

863
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: time between yesterday and today, probably a practice because he

864
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: was not on the injury report yesterday. Limited today. Kamari Lassiter,

865
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: that's good news. That's an upgrade over yesterday's did not

866
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: participate status. So that's nice to see. Everybody else pretty

867
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: much the same as yesterday. Let's hope for the very

868
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: best heading into the game against Tennessee and of course

869
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: the playoff game next week at NRG Stadium. Don't know

870
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: when that is yet and who it will be against.

871
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: Now for the Titans, this is interesting still out for them.

872
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 2: Tyler Boyd with a foot, Amani Hooker with a shoulder.

873
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: I mean, these are guys who start for them. Arden

874
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: Key with a hand, he's a starter, Otis Reese with

875
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: an ankle, Taja Spears with a concussion now yesterday, Tony

876
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: Pollard limited with an ankle, limited again today with an ankle,

877
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: and chig A Konquo. He's the guy who had that

878
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: long touchdown catch against the Texans a few weeks ago,

879
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: real devastating played the Texans surrendered there. He's with an

880
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: abdomen injury now. He was not on the injury report

881
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: at all yesterday, so that means he suffered it during

882
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: practice or a workout or whatever. So we'll watch for

883
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: that because he's a valuable weapon for them, and we'll

884
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: find out more as we go. I mentioned hand injury

885
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: for arden Key and two Texans are full go with

886
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: a hand injury, but it's listed here Will Anderson Junior

887
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: and Nick Broker. And speaking of hand injuries, conveniently enough,

888
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 2: we have doctor cors Jeffarnia of Houston Methodists joining us

889
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: for Houston Methodist Minutes.

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Speaker 1: Doctor, how's it going doing great?

891
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 7: Thank you so much?

892
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: How are you doing great?

893
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: And I'm doing even better because I don't have a

894
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: hand injury, and I know this is your specialty here,

895
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: so let's start here. What is the most common hand

896
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: injury you see among athletes?

897
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 7: Tell us about that, so really simply the sprains and

898
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 7: things on those bruises, and then you get to the

899
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 7: next level where it's more serious of fractures and ligament tears.

900
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 7: But really with these sprains and bruises more often and

901
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 7: those usually sell down after a week or two. The

902
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 7: long term injuries that we see more frequently are the

903
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 7: fractures in the hands and the bones in the hand,

904
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 7: and also ligament tears, especially as the stub with courebacks

905
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 7: and things on those lines.

906
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: Give me an example of how many bones we are

907
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: talking about in the hand and how complex it gets

908
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: to deal with fractures to multiple bones during a hand

909
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 2: injury situation.

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00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 7: So there's about nineteen to twenty bones in the hand,

911
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 7: and Kasey includes the very small bones seeing go up

912
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 7: to twenty two, and then the rest has eight bones

913
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 7: as well. So there's a lot of bones that we're

914
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 7: dealing with. But the main ones that get fractured in

915
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 7: the athletes are usually the metacarpals, which are the big

916
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 7: ones in the middle of the hand, just below the fingers.

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00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: Well, how is the healing time for these? It's probably

918
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: a lot like other bones. But there's rehab, right. I

919
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 2: once broke a bone in my pinky along the knuckle

920
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: and I had to go to hand rehab in order

921
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: to get things working correctly. So it wouldn't heal incorrectly.

922
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: Share something about that for us, please, So there's a lot.

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00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 7: Of intricate tendons and ligaments and nerves and things around

924
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 7: the fractured bones. Because things are so you know, close

925
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 7: in the hand and tight, so whenever you have a fracture,

926
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 7: you get scar tissue and healing bone all around all

927
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 7: these structures, and you get stiff and scarred in and

928
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 7: you do need the therapy afterwards to help mobilize things.

929
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 7: Part of that is because it takes a loan to heal,

930
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 7: you know, six to eight weeks usually with most of

931
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Speaker 7: the bones, sometimes longer with certain bones in the wrists.

932
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 7: But if we can get things fixed and get things

933
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 7: more solid so that patients can move fingers faster, they

934
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 7: can heal and get and have a less need for rehab.

935
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 7: Basically kind of like we do with the athletes or

936
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Speaker 7: the pro athletes. We'll get them faced with plate and

937
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 7: screws so they can move their fingers right away and

938
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 7: then they don't get that scar tissue ensuing.

939
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Speaker 2: All right, there's doctor Corse Jeffarnia of Houston Methodist. It's

940
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: the official healthcare provider of your Houston Texans. Houston Methodist

941
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Speaker 2: dot org for all the info on Houston Methodists. Houston

942
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Speaker 2: Methodist Leading Medicine. Coming up, Johnny and I have a

943
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: who's better to remember? This is really good stuff. We'll

944
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: talk broadcasters, coaches, players, et cetera.

945
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: And after that, some of you might.

946
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 2: Have missed the Cade Stover interview, we'll have a big

947
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: chunk of that, and Miles Bryant as well, two players

948
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: that could factor big as things roll on here with

949
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: the regular season finale and into the postseason.

950
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Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio.

951
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: Hello Texans, it's our two of Texans All Access Tonight,

952
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 2: no Thursday Night football. The league has loaded up Saturday

953
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 2: with two games and then Sunday with the full slate.

954
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: And as you know by now.

955
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: Because you listen to the show and other shows on

956
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: Sports Radio six to ten, they made it so you

957
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't know your playoff fate before you take the field.

958
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: So on Saturday of Browns at Ravens then Bengals at Steelers,

959
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: and the Ravens can go ahead and do some damage

960
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: against the Browns and clinch the division. But the Steelers

961
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: still want to win, and the Bengals will still be

962
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: alive because they need other teams to lose with a

963
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: Bengals victory. Anyway, we've been through all this. Let's get

964
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: through this now with Jazz Harris. Who's better, Johnny you ready?

965
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 3: Okay, let's go all right, We're gonna start off with

966
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: two TV questions color commentator in the NFL.

967
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: Who's better Tom Brady or Tony Romo?

968
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: Oh?

969
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: Pick your who's better?

970
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 6: Here?

971
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: Easy?

972
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: Romo really still, because a lot of people have bounds,

973
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: leaps and bounds. Still, Tony sees things he can be,

974
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: He can be entertaining at times, he gives you a

975
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: little bit more insight Tom Brady is. It's the right

976
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 3: way of saying this, Like Tom's a single up the middle, and.

977
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: That's what you get. That's best case.

978
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: But with Romo there's times where he hit a four

979
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty foot home run.

980
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: Now'll strike out a couple times.

981
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're gonna get a little bit of everything

982
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 3: with Romo, and I like that. I can't remember which

983
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 3: game I was watching him. I think it was one

984
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 3: of the Buffalo games, and I just was listening to

985
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 3: him do the game it was. It was Red Zone

986
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: and they were going back and forth between games, and

987
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: so I'm listening to both Nansen Romo and then Burkhart

988
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: and Brady, and so I'm you're getting the opportunity to

989
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: just sit there and auditorially compare, right, And there's no comparison,

990
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: none whatsoever.

991
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: I get nothing when I listen to Brady. Nothing. It's

992
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: just flat. It's just flat.

993
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: Do you think it's because he's part owner of the

994
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: Raiders in part? Do you think that's part of the

995
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: reason why he's kind of vanilla? Or is it just

996
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: because that's who he is right now? He hasn't learned

997
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: to branch out and release that inner Brady energy. I

998
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: don't know if it's there even as a broadcaster. Clearly

999
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 2: Romo had it from day one. If anything, it's dialed

1000
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: down a little bit now.

1001
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: I think when you get on the air, you are

1002
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: who you are.

1003
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could learn different things, like I think I

1004
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 3: just think about but my experience, like I've always been

1005
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 3: loud and vocal and for the most part, and that's

1006
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: just the way I was going to be.

1007
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: It was just a matter of trying to.

1008
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: Hone it all into forming good radio each time I

1009
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: got in front of a microphone.

1010
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 1: And then when I started doing games, that same energy

1011
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: came forth.

1012
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: The very first game I ever did, very first game

1013
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: I ever did was Kadie and Manvil playoff game back

1014
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen, and it was it was the first

1015
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: one I had ever done, but it was the same

1016
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 3: energy came out and so for Brady I would have

1017
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: thought that energy would come out of him, but it

1018
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: really it really didn't. Romo has had that same sort

1019
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: of energy. Now it sort of dip when it felt

1020
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 3: like he was going through the motions. I think Tony

1021
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: heard what people were saying about him. I think he

1022
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 3: heard what CBS people were saying, and he kind of

1023
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 3: went back to being more energetic. He'd talked about teams

1024
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: that he knows. Obviously they get, you know, the A

1025
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: game every single week, so they're getting you know, he's

1026
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 3: on first name basis with Josh.

1027
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: And Lamar and Patrick, right. You know, I think that helps.

1028
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 3: But I would listen to Brady hey, or I would

1029
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: listen to Romo ten times out of ten over Brady

1030
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: right now. Does not mean that Brady can't get better

1031
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 3: and become a better broadcaster, but Romo, those two, it's Romo.

1032
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: Now.

1033
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: You flip it over to Greg Olsen, Oh yeah, and

1034
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 3: it's a total it's a different ballgame. Like to me,

1035
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: I think I think he's the best in the business

1036
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: right now.

1037
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: Sidebar would you rather?

1038
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: Would you rather watch a big game with Tarico and

1039
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: collins Worth calling it or Joe Buck and Troy Aikman

1040
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: calling it.

1041
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: Now, that's a whole lot closer. That's a whole lot

1042
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: closer because I really like Mike. I like Mike as

1043
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 3: a person, and I think that I think Chris has

1044
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: done good things for football.

1045
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: I think his energy comes out too.

1046
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 3: I think there are sometimes that and I think this

1047
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: is for this is for a lot of the guys.

1048
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 3: They don't really know the offensive line play. They kind

1049
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: of will describe things a little differently, especially when you're

1050
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: talking about fronts and things like that. But you tell

1051
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 3: Chris works at it. I think Troy just kind of

1052
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 3: avoids it for the most part. But those two, man,

1053
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 3: that's tough. But I will take Buck and Aikman. I

1054
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 3: love listening to Joe. I think Joe is the best

1055
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: of the play by play guys in on TV. On radio,

1056
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 3: I know there's one guy who's the best play by

1057
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: play guy and he's sitting next to me, and I.

1058
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: Believe in that whole hardly.

1059
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: But TV, I think I think Joe is the Joe

1060
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: to me, is is that guy.

1061
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: I think he and Troy have a really good relationship

1062
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: and I like it. I like the sound of their voices.

1063
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: I do too, I mean they really Mike though.

1064
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: I like Mike calling any kind of game, basketball, football,

1065
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: big fan of Mike.

1066
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: I just think Joe and Troy work really really well together.

1067
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you I've heard Mike do basketball, football, golf.

1068
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: He does all of it, skips you know, really well.

1069
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 2: I mean like Nance does, right, But Mike Turrico is

1070
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: that broadcaster when Buck did golf, Look he tried.

1071
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he was bad at it. He's not

1072
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: bad at it. Any different vibe for it.

1073
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, baseball, man, I miss him doing baseball, I guess.

1074
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I do too. I really wanted him to do

1075
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: the World Series. Now, I think Joe Davis did a

1076
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 3: good job. I think Joe and he's super Shohn. Yeah

1077
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: he's I mean, and it's Joe Davis with Greg Olsen

1078
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: right in the NFL. Yeah not to me, is right

1079
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: up there with all the groups doing the primetime.

1080
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, because Joe compat fantastic the same thing, if

1081
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 2: not better.

1082
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: So there it is. And I think Burkhart's a better

1083
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: studio host.

1084
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 2: All right, let's do this one more TV thing for you,

1085
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: college football play by play. Pick your guy, Fowler test Aitour,

1086
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: Gus Johnson, brad Nessler, that's I'm gonna give you.

1087
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: I know people aren't gonna like this answer.

1088
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 3: In some respects, I love listening to him call a

1089
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 3: game because there's always something that's gonna come out that's

1090
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 3: just a little different and fun. And I love his energy.

1091
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 3: Gus Johnson, really Gus Johnson. Okay, Gus not always the cleanest.

1092
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 3: I know he probably doesn't the blocking and tackling and

1093
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 3: all that, But the energy that I get from him,

1094
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: like trum sitting on the edge of your seat, like

1095
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: there's a close game and it got throws a deep

1096
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: ball and it's like.

1097
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: Johnson throws deep and it's God. I mean, he goes

1098
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: to a different.

1099
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: Like and just every now and again, I think his

1100
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: off score stuff that just comes out, Like last year

1101
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: he started calling Marmon Harrison.

1102
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: And Maserati mar It was like, that's kind of cool.

1103
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: I like Gus for that reason.

1104
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: He's almost likely to go viral of any of these guys,

1105
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: and that's saying something. Look, they're all different, like I

1106
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: always say, somebody once told me play by play guys,

1107
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: some people like blond, some people like Brunette's. It's true,

1108
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 2: there's a different style, there's a different preference for everybody.

1109
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: Let me throw another let me throw another one into

1110
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: that group, and then you pick it. Sean McDonough. I

1111
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: think Sean McDonough is as underrated as it gets.

1112
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: All right, So you know, I've lived in Boston for

1113
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: a long time. McDonough used to do the Red Sox

1114
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: on TV. I've heard him do Boston College football.

1115
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: On the radio.

1116
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 2: I've heard him do a ton of different things hockey.

1117
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: He is a tremendous broadcaster, and he did money that

1118
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: I had football for a bunch of years with Gruden.

1119
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: He can do anything. He's wonderful. He does tend to

1120
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: sound like a lot of these Syracuse guys, which is

1121
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: not a bad thing. I mean, they all sound awesome,

1122
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: but I like the individual unique style of Gus. I

1123
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: think Nestler's solid of course test tour, I like very dramatic.

1124
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 2: He did the Longhorn game on TV yesterday, right. Yeah,

1125
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: he's great, I think, And I said this to you

1126
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: while we were watching it. I thought college football needs

1127
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 2: a Keith Jackson, and he's the most likely to become

1128
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: like that.

1129
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody could be Keith because.

1130
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: Keith had this unique delivery and you just knew it

1131
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 2: was a big game. I just loved him so much,

1132
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: kind of like you love Vern doing the SEC games.

1133
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: And people that fit.

1134
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: And I know this name is not you know there

1135
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: was some at the end it got Yeah, but Ron

1136
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: Franklin calling a college football game for.

1137
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: The NSC or Big twelve. Yeah, yeah, was it fit?

1138
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 3: And he did the orders perfect back in the day,

1139
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 3: did the orders so there he was so good fit perfect. Okay,

1140
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 3: I've got some other good ones for you. Let's go

1141
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 3: to the field or to the men who played the games,

1142
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 3: who were actually coach or GM the games.

1143
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: As we continue, who's better? Let's start with this little

1144
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: diddy better jed general manager? Hear me out, Chris Ballard

1145
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 2: or the former GM of the Tennessee Titans, John Robinson.

1146
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 2: Check this out, Johnny Robinson, I think gets a bad rep,

1147
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 2: bad rap and rep here because Robinson at the helm

1148
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 2: of the Titans enters the fray with Mike Malarkey still

1149
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: coaching them. Yes, nine and seven, nine and seven, they

1150
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: win a playoff game against Kansas City and losing the

1151
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: division round.

1152
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 9: Yes.

1153
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: Then Vrabel comes in nine and seven, nine and seven,

1154
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 2: they get to the AFC Championship game. Then they go

1155
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: eleven and five, twelve and five in the midst of

1156
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: a seven and ten season. In twenty twenty two, he

1157
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: gets fired early December, doesn't get to finish the campaign.

1158
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: Not that the record would have changed had he stayed. Okay,

1159
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: I get it, but it's notable to me how John

1160
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 2: Robinson at all those winning seasons. And I know not

1161
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: all the deals were good and he got slammed the

1162
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,439
Speaker 2: AJ Brown deal and all of that, but he put

1163
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: together a lot of winning seasons. Meanwhile, here's the Ballard resume,

1164
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: if you will. Four and twelve, ten and six, seven

1165
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: and nine, eleven and five, nine and eight, four and twelve,

1166
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: nine and eight, seven and nine so far with the

1167
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 2: with the final game pending here for the Indianapolis Colts

1168
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: this year, Ballard, they get to the wildcard round, lose

1169
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: that division round in twenty eighteen and lose that obviously,

1170
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: they won a playoff game with Andrew Luck here at

1171
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 2: NRG Stadium. They haven't made the playoffs more than twice.

1172
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 2: And I know the quarterback thing they've tried. They got

1173
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 2: a lot of talent, but you tell me better, GM

1174
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: ballads your guy, So hard, I know, but threw this

1175
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 2: at you. Here's what I want you to do as

1176
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do this. Okay, what was Tennessee's record

1177
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three? Do you remember twenty twenty three?

1178
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 2: Tennessee not very good?

1179
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 6: Right?

1180
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: Because they yeah, they're rightful, right, So they have a

1181
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 2: meltdown because they finished the They finished the twenty twenty

1182
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 2: two season on like an eight or in nine game

1183
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: losing street. Yes, yeah, they had a Jags like twenty

1184
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 2: twenty f three. That was their twenty twenty.

1185
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: Two So Robinson was fired at some point around when

1186
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 3: they were seven and two.

1187
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: Since Robinson's been they going six and eleven last year,

1188
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: so they lost like eight in a row.

1189
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 3: Then they went six and eleven, so they were six

1190
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: and nineteen, and then this year they're three and thirteen.

1191
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: Gets shown there.

1192
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: They don't even have ten wins since John Robinson has left.

1193
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: He did a hell of a job. I'm sorry he did.

1194
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 2: And look, I know people will talk to me about

1195
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: this move and that move, but they had a winning

1196
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: organization and now they don't.

1197
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 3: And Robinson built I don't want to say he built

1198
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: a majority of what they had, but it was Robinson

1199
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 3: pulling the trigger on that, alongside obviously Mike Rabel, but

1200
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: Ballard and I there's a partiment that feels for Chris

1201
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 3: because I know Chris for a long time. I think

1202
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 3: the Andrew Luck thing they still have not bounced back from. No,

1203
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: they just haven't gotten back from that, because in twenty eighteen,

1204
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 3: when they decide that they're gonna be a more fifty

1205
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 3: to fifty balanced type team, they become a juggernaut.

1206
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1207
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 3: And I remember after a beat in the playoffs, I'm like,

1208
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 3: they got Andrew Luck. Ballader is one of the best

1209
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 3: games in the league. Frank Reich is on it. They've

1210
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 3: got good talent. When are we ever going to beat

1211
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: them again?

1212
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: Right? And then Luck retires?

1213
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: A miracle happened, and then Luck retired a football miracle.

1214
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, absolutely, it was a football miracle.

1215
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 3: And then from then it's been it's been Presett, it's

1216
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 3: been Rivers, Richardson. I mean, and then when they figured out, okay,

1217
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 3: we can't just keep recycling guys, we gotta go get

1218
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: a guy, they.

1219
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: Get the wrong guy.

1220
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 3: Everything you read about Anthony Richardson was that it's just

1221
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 3: the wrong fit.

1222
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: He hasn't understood how to be a leader.

1223
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 3: And they are now anonymous scouts out there of course

1224
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 3: that are saying, oh, he's never been that way. Talk

1225
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 3: to the people at Florida. Listen to what Billy Napier

1226
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 3: said about him when he left. He's never been that

1227
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 3: alpha leader. And that's I think what the Colts wanted

1228
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 3: him to be. And so when you draft somebody to

1229
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 3: be something they're not, that is very whether it's whether

1230
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 3: it's hey, we drafted this guy as a guard to

1231
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: play tackle. We think this guy is a defensive tackle

1232
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: or defensive man. We think this guy is.

1233
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: Gonna be our number one wide receiver on the outside.

1234
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 3: We're gonna draft the quarterback and he's got to be

1235
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 3: the alpha leader of our team.

1236
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: But what if he's not.

1237
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 3: So I think that's one of the things that gets lost.

1238
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: And here's one of the issues. Chris is an elite

1239
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: trades guy.

1240
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: That is his thing, right, long arms, four to three, speed,

1241
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 3: bod pod, body, fat test, like all those things matter

1242
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 3: to Chris.

1243
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: They matter in a big way to Chris.

1244
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 3: And sometimes as a general manager, you got to play

1245
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 3: a hunch here there that yeah, he might look like

1246
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 3: Cam Newton, but why at all these stops. Was it

1247
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: kind of JANKI why didn't he play whole lot? Is

1248
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: it all just injuries? Can he be you know those

1249
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 3: things that they've had to encounter With Anthony Richardson, they

1250
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 3: needed to know everything, and it feels like they didn't.

1251
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 3: So to answer the question, I'm still gonna say Ballard,

1252
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 3: but it's a lot closer than I would say if

1253
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 3: Chris had gotten if they would have stayed with Luck,

1254
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 3: that could have been very dangerous for a long time.

1255
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: I would say that there's a perceived unproductive influence from

1256
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 2: ownership as Indianapolis that doesn't exist to the same degree

1257
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: in Nashville.

1258
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: That's right. That is what I perceive anyway.

1259
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: And it's fun to talk about because my next one

1260
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: is better coach Frank Reich or Shane Steiken about them apples,

1261
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: oh man, because.

1262
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: Be careful what you wish for. You might Oh, no,

1263
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: it's not what we wished for. Because Stikeen. I think

1264
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: Stikeen was doing fine. Last year.

1265
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: Okay, you lose to the tx's final game of the season,

1266
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: dropped the ball.

1267
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: Whatever. This year, we're gonna go with Richardson. Is this

1268
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: gonna work?

1269
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: Flacco will try to you know, exuom the body of

1270
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: Flacco once again and see what he can do for

1271
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 2: us if Richardson can't go or whatever. That doesn't work

1272
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: to the same degree as it did for Cleveland, clearly,

1273
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: and here they are, but losing to the Giants the

1274
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: way they.

1275
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: Did was not a good look for Stiken.

1276
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: Had they played a hotly contested affair and lost by three, Okay.

1277
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 3: Watch this, here's almost this is this is how I'm

1278
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 3: an answer this. Has Shane Stiken been the offense coordinator

1279
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 3: head coach for Andrew Luck healthy, they wouldn't won a championship.

1280
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 3: Whoa really, Frank Reich I think is the better coach

1281
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 3: for this team now? Because for the cults, now, yes,

1282
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 3: this team needs some old school og type stuff. Shown

1283
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 3: up late for meetings and all that nonsense. I mean,

1284
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 3: that's been a that's been a big, big deal for

1285
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: you know what McAfee was getting at. And then Steichen

1286
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 3: was asked about it. He's like, well, you know, guys

1287
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 3: aren't always going to show up on time. Like wait

1288
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 3: a second, there's some non negotiables here. I'm sorry, there

1289
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 3: are non negotiables about the way you go about your

1290
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 3: business as an NFL organization and you got players showing

1291
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 3: up two three minutes late consistently.

1292
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to lose your mind as a coach.

1293
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: You cannot tolerate to go to that other place you do.

1294
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: You have to can't. What am I doing here? You

1295
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 2: guys are are a couple of minutes late. You don't

1296
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: say a couple of minutes late. You see you are late.

1297
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: There's late and not late. You can't be a little

1298
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 2: bit pregnant with late.

1299
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 6: That's right.

1300
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: On an NFL team, you have to be either there

1301
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 2: or you're not there.

1302
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: And one minute.

1303
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: I remember Man training camp meeting twenty thirteen. We were

1304
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: allowed to show up for this one and encouraged to right,

1305
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Speaker 2: you're gonna introduce us. And they did it here for

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01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: us last year when the Demico administration began. But this

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Speaker 2: is Koubiak, And I think I showed up like a

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01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 2: minute before the meeting started, but it had already started.

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Speaker 2: It's a Coughlin time issue. But I slid in. It

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01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: was outside of the auditorio. Is fine, and I'm a broadcaster, like,

1311
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: you're not gonna fire me or find me. But I

1312
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 2: was like, oh, shoot, that was rough, all right? We

1313
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: only got a couple of minutes left. But I want

1314
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Speaker 2: you to debate this one. I'm gonna blend questions here

1315
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: who's better. I'm gonna give you four coaches here, and

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01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: you pick your guy. And I want you to pick

1317
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: your guy right now, not ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 2: Here are four coaches Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 2: and Kyle Shanahan. And I was gonna actually ask you

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01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh versus Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: Harriball want to ring, Yeah, we have that.

1323
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: But Shanahan, I mean in the postseason since he's taken

1324
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: over is eight and four, but he's got some losing

1325
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 2: campaigns along the way like this year.

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, postseason in the last ten years is two and five, Okay,

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01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh? John two and five in the postseason. So

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Speaker 2: you know, you have these numbers to weigh. And I

1330
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: always say, even if you want a Super Bowl a

1331
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 2: decade ago, it gives you a lot of grace as

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Speaker 2: a head coach because if you haven't won one, they're

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01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: gonna come after you. But Sean Payton won his an nine.

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Speaker 2: He's got in for the playoffs right now with the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: You got Jim Harbaugh did really well with the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers.

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Speaker 1: I might shock you with my answer. Go ahead, give

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Speaker 1: me your answer. I can't believe I'm saying this.

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Speaker 9: Sean Payton.

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Speaker 3: Sean Payton because he's doing that with bow Knicks, because

1341
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 3: not only that, but he had to resurrect that defense too.

1342
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 3: Now that defense had some pieces from Vic Fangio, who

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01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 3: was THEIRS A defensive coordinator. They did have some pieces,

1344
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 3: but they still had to get something out of Nick Benito,

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01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 3: who made the Pro Bowl. They had lost a few

1346
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 3: other players, you know, they still have Patrick Shartan, you know,

1347
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: but they had to really kind of get that defense

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01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 3: back going again.

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Speaker 1: And I mean that's that's one of the pieces.

1350
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 3: And you're like, wait, Sean Payton wins games with offense,

1351
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 3: but they have found a way to take what bow

1352
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 3: Knicks does well, not what Drew Brees did well, and

1353
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 3: and shove it down bow Knick's throat.

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton went.

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01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 3: Okay, well this worked with Breeze, but maybe this works

1356
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 3: with Nicks. And now they're finding this nice blend of

1357
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 3: what Knicks can do with Sean Payton calling the plays.

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Speaker 3: I think I didn't I thought Peyton going to Denver

1359
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 3: was gonna be an absolute abject disaster, guy all about

1360
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 3: himself ego, then he drafts a rookie quarterback at twelve

1361
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 3: or they're gonna play him like, this is gonna be

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Speaker 3: a disaster.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be so fun to watch. Wait, they're good.

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Speaker 1: They're good.

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Speaker 3: Not only they're good, they're bordering on great, especially a

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01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 3: defense and Nicks. I mean that game against the Bengals

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Speaker 3: the other day was that classic Saturday Yeah, it was.

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01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable to watch.

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Speaker 3: That was such a fun ball game to watch. And

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe the Broncos should have won that, I mean,

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Speaker 3: who knows, but it was just awesome to watch that

1372
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Speaker 3: team compete against the Bengals team that everybody said, well,

1373
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 3: we don't want to play the Bengals if they get

1374
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. That Bengals team went or that buck

1375
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 3: that Broncos team with toe to toe. I'm gonna say

1376
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 3: Sean Payton, the playoff record for John Harbaught does bother

1377
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: me or worry me in a question like this, So

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01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Peyton. I know that haven't been

1379
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 3: back to the playoffs in Denver, but just what he

1380
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 3: took in Denver and turned it into what it is

1381
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 3: now is that's pretty wild.

1382
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 2: I'll give him credit for this too. We all talk

1383
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: about Vance Joseph and hey, he's taking a job as

1384
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 2: a DC where he was a head coach. That's got

1385
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: to be tough in a way, but it's also tough

1386
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: for the head coach. I'm bringing in a guy who's

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01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 2: a head coach here yep, to be a coordinator. But

1388
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: that took imagination and clearly it's working out so far. Anyway,

1389
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Speaker 2: coming up, cad Stover joined us earlier in the week

1390
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 2: you missed it. You're gonna hear some of that next

1391
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 2: along with Myles Bryant Nickel back for your Texans.

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Speaker 1: It's coming up here on Texans Radio.

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01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 2: Keeping your company here our number two of Texans All

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Speaker 2: Access tonight no Thursday night game. So we are here

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01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 2: and cad Stover was here in the Hunday Texans Radio

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01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 2: studio paying us a visit. And let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: Because the appendectomy, how it go down, what do they

1398
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: feel and how did it lead to? Oh my gosh,

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01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 2: we got to get this thing out. We talked to

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01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 2: Kate about that. He took us through the story. It

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01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: happened a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 8: We came in Saturday for our normal walkthroughs, and driving in,

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01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 8: I started feeling like a little I kind of like

1404
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 8: you're breaking a fever, you know what I mean. Okay,

1405
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 8: just whatever, it'll go away. Yeah, it'll be fine, Like

1406
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 8: you can play with a fever, no doubt about it.

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01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 8: And we keep going and like before we get to

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01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 8: the walk through, I'm sitting in the meetings upstairs and

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01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 8: I'm like, dude, my abdominals are like I feel like

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01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 8: somebody's got like a hot like knife just rubbing it

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01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 8: around on you. Oh all right, So I just told

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01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 8: what came down there, and I told Jeremy the athletic trainers, like, hey,

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01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 8: just take my temperature real quick.

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01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 9: It was like one on one point five, like it

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01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 9: was high.

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01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: Okay.

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01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 8: I was like, okay, I got a fever like figures

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01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 8: like no big deal. Like I wanted to know if

1419
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 8: I had a fever or not, to be able to

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01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 8: know how much night cool can I slug and feel.

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01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 9: Okay sleeping, you know what I mean?

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01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, And then he's like, do your abdominal's hurting? Like

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01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 8: I was the first thing he asked, Yes, I mean

1424
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 8: they're not very comfortable right now. So they lays me down,

1425
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 8: touching my stomach and I jumped off the table.

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01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 9: I'm like, oh god, So anyway went. I was like,

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01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 9: just let me go to the walk through.

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01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 8: Maybe I just got to go to the bathroom or something,

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01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 8: you know, I mean go through the walk through, and

1430
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 8: he just kept getting worse, and they took me to

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01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 8: the hospital.

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01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: So they got it in time.

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01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then I got one in surgery at like

1434
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 8: two in the morning to get it out. So yeah,

1435
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 8: it wasn't really Yeah, just a freak thing.

1436
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 3: So how was he getting back on the field? Do

1437
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 3: you feel just natural to getting back on the field.

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01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 9: It took like I was the first like two days.

1439
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 8: I was tender tender, Yeah, like couldn't really stand up,

1440
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 8: like extended your stomach, you know, I mean because they

1441
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 8: take it out through like your belly button kind.

1442
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 2: Of Oh oh really yeah, I guess it's got to

1443
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 2: come out through somewhere.

1444
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 8: Right, So that's not necessarily comfortable. But like four days later,

1445
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 8: I mean I was running like full speed, cutting moving man.

1446
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: So not much of an incision or anything. We're not

1447
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: asking to show us, right.

1448
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, yeah, just like three like little poke

1449
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 8: holes and then like there's one on my belly buttons

1450
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 8: a little bigger where they pull it out of, and

1451
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 8: then like the rest of just like the scope sites.

1452
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: Geez.

1453
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: So playing a physical sport like football is there was

1454
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 3: there any concern about coming back, like if the incision

1455
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 3: got hit or in that area?

1456
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: Is there anything?

1457
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 8: I mean yeah, they were like listen, like You've got

1458
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 8: to wait two weeks to do this, and I'm like,

1459
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 8: I'm not waiting two weeks, Like I feel fine. They're like, well,

1460
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 8: you'll be playing with the risk. I'm like, this is

1461
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 8: what I do every day is play with the risk.

1462
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 8: So it's really not that big of a deal. So

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01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 8: work out all right. So I love Kate Stover just

1464
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 8: I thought i'd say that.

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Speaker 2: Well, what an adventure this rookie season has been for you. Yeah,

1466
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 2: take it all the way back to pre draft and

1467
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 2: then getting here and then the season and really the

1468
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 2: stuff you're doing at the full back I'll put that

1469
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 2: in air quotes position. Were you doing all that in

1470
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 2: training camp as well, trying to move into that and

1471
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Speaker 2: help out or no?

1472
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Speaker 8: Not really a little bit, like I was mainly just

1473
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,560
Speaker 8: focused on learning like the y position, which is the

1474
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 8: inline in m HM, because learning two spots at once

1475
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 8: when you first cares little Harry, especially like a spot

1476
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 8: that moves around as much as that.

1477
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: Yep.

1478
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 8: So anyway, so now kind of like the Indianapolis week

1479
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 8: was really the first kind of week they've kind of like, Hey,

1480
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 8: you're gonna play f I'm like, all right, So then just.

1481
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 9: Kind of growing that. I love to be honest with you, like,

1482
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 9: I really enjoy it. I really really enjoy it.

1483
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: What do you like about it?

1484
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 8: I just like moving, I like being like I'm never

1485
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 8: in the same spot all the time, and I like

1486
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 8: being here like nobody's going to know. And I just

1487
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of different things that can

1488
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 8: build off of that, especially like I mean a lot

1489
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 8: of fullbacks you see like use Check for example, Like

1490
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 8: he's I mean he's a small I mean he's a

1491
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 8: like a running back base, you know what I mean, right?

1492
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 9: Or you have like Ricard, the.

1493
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 8: Guy for the Ravens, who's like three hundred and twenty

1494
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 8: pounds and not much for anything else than just that.

1495
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 8: Like I feel like with me, like you kind of

1496
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 8: got a middle ground to where you can do different

1497
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 8: things with as we keep progressing here?

1498
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Speaker 3: Have you It's gonna sound maybe strange, but obviously the

1499
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 3: appendix is a little different.

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Speaker 1: But have you felt mentally physically pretty solid? Have you

1501
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: felt like you hit.

1502
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 3: A WALLA this is the longest as we talked coach

1503
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 3: Ryan's this is the longest football season that you've ever had.

1504
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, playing that many games.

1505
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 3: I know, you get that long break you're still playing

1506
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 3: in New Year's Day or whatever it is when you're

1507
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: in college, but you had that long like five six

1508
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 3: week break, right, have you kind of mentally physically hit

1509
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 3: a wall?

1510
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: You stay pretty solid through To be honest.

1511
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 8: With you, Like, we went on the bye week and

1512
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 8: I got to go home on the farm, and it

1513
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 8: was like the most refreshing five days I think I've

1514
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 8: ever had in my life.

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Speaker 6: Really.

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01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was like like totally reset you to where

1517
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 8: like okay, and then I practice all that next week

1518
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 8: and like to stay and then I get I don't

1519
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 8: play that game. Yeah, right, so then like you really

1520
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 8: start to develop, like Okay, you're really really hungry again,

1521
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 8: you know what I mean? And it really I mean

1522
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 8: I feel, yeah, I feel pretty mentally in a good

1523
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,759
Speaker 8: spot and physically in a pretty good spot.

1524
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 2: All right, Well, what are your thoughts on this particular

1525
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 2: week as you get ready to face the Titans regular

1526
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: season finale and all in the playoffs, and it just

1527
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 2: feels like playoff football is in the air. When you

1528
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 2: think college NFL, all the teams fighting for spots, we're

1529
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: still fighting for a spot and everything's kind of heating up.

1530
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: That's got to feel good. Yeah, no, it's awesome.

1531
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 8: I mean if you're not playing for just like in college,

1532
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 8: she we always said, like you want to play the

1533
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 8: end of November is always going to be the most

1534
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 8: important time in college. And here like the saying as

1535
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 8: I guess what people say is you want to play,

1536
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 8: meaning for football in December, and we're playing meaning from

1537
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 8: football in December. We're trying to get back, win the game,

1538
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 8: play how we're supposed to play. So that way, going

1539
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 8: into the playoffs, Hey, we can be on a good note,

1540
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, because you don't want to go

1541
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 8: to the playoffs after what just happened last week?

1542
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: Yeah right, no, doub don't know.

1543
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 9: You want to go on a on a good foot

1544
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 9: and feel like, hey we can go do something.

1545
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 3: Okay, finish this sentence. Two buck, guys, go to the

1546
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 3: farm dot dot dot. I heard that you want a

1547
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 3: certain other buck guy ended.

1548
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: Up going to the farm. Yeah, haven't a day a farm.

1549
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1550
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 8: We went up Friday the forty four farms up north

1551
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 8: just north of Texas, A and m Honestly, for me,

1552
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 8: it was like I told you guys, it was top

1553
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 8: five day of my life, like awesome. And then CJ

1554
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,959
Speaker 8: he wasn't doing nothing that day, so we were like, hey, Mikado,

1555
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 8: are team chaplain here?

1556
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 9: He knows the forty four farms.

1557
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 8: So that's kind of kind of how I got hooked

1558
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 8: up with him, and CJ wasn't doing nothing. I was like, hey,

1559
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 8: let's go, and we did, and Kyle was like, hey,

1560
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 8: come on, and he came with us and put his

1561
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 8: jeans and boots on and went up there and we

1562
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 8: spent a day. I think the guy that owns forty

1563
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 8: four farms probably will not have me back again do

1564
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 8: to all the questions, but that's all right. No, he

1565
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 8: was great, honestly, like it was such as like, first

1566
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 8: of all, what an unbelievable business, like for people who

1567
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 8: don't know, it's basically the biggest direct to consumer beef

1568
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 8: business in the United States. And then along with that

1569
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 8: like he sells the like the breeding stock for black

1570
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,879
Speaker 8: angus bulls, Like he's the top, top of the line stuff,

1571
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 8: the animals he had there, and just the way does

1572
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 8: it and the way he ships his beef, Like, that's

1573
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 8: kind of what I want to get into when I

1574
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 8: do get my own farm and start selling bee. I

1575
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 8: want to do like the direct consumer stuff and be

1576
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 8: able if you wanted, you want a ten tore lorens

1577
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 8: and then ten pounds of ground beef, I can ship

1578
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 8: that to you, right You know what I'm saying. You

1579
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 8: can go online, you order it and you know exactly

1580
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 8: where it's coming from and who raised it.

1581
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 1: I'd order right now. Yeah, let's go.

1582
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, come on, we're talking about So.

1583
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: How different is that? I mean, I know it's on

1584
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 1: a grand scale.

1585
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 3: He's got a grand business, But how different is that

1586
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 3: than what you guys have at Stover Farm?

1587
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1588
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: Your farm?

1589
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 9: No, to be honest with you, the principles are all

1590
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 9: exactly the same.

1591
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 6: Okay.

1592
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 8: He's all non gmo, non hormonal stuff. And that's what

1593
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 8: people that's what people were drawn to. I mean, they

1594
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 8: want to know what's going inside that meat. They want

1595
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 8: to know how that meat is being raised. They want

1596
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 8: to know where it's coming from, right, Like they don't

1597
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 8: want nobody wants an animal pack full of hormones and

1598
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 8: packed for all these I mean getting fed stuff that

1599
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 8: you wouldn't even think that. Like it's discussing right, some

1600
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 8: big places. That's how it is, right, But the way

1601
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 8: we do it, I mean there our place everything. We

1602
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 8: got one hundred head, right, so we're nowhere near this

1603
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 8: guy's scale. But then again, it's just dad at home,

1604
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. So he's sure he's doing

1605
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 8: plenty fine for what he does and everything. I mean,

1606
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 8: ninety five percent of our animals are fed by hand,

1607
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 8: five gallon buckets every morning.

1608
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 1: Wow, that's how it was growing up all Yeah, and.

1609
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 8: Then there's like twenty or thirty on full feed that

1610
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 8: can basically eat whenever they want. But like the younger guys,

1611
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 8: you kind of got to creep along and make sure

1612
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 8: you got to determine how much you eat because if

1613
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 8: you just put full feed in there all the time,

1614
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 8: they'll eat until they're sick.

1615
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 2: So you have a mind for the business side of this.

1616
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 2: But when did that really develop for you? Because you're

1617
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 2: a kid. I imagine you helped out from a very

1618
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: young age. When did you start becoming interested in I

1619
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 2: want to run something like this?

1620
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 8: Man, I'll tell you what that before I even knew

1621
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,520
Speaker 8: what football was, I knew I wanted to farm.

1622
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

1623
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 9: I mean like.

1624
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 8: Mom, obviously I was too young to know. But Mom

1625
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 8: always says, like, you couldn't take your eyes off me

1626
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 8: if she was out, like she was on porch and

1627
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 8: I was outside in the yard or whatever, like my

1628
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 8: eyes were going to I'm up on the piece of

1629
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 8: equipment somewhere, you know, I mean, you're climbing up on something.

1630
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 8: Because that's just that's why I was talking to guy

1631
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 8: thinks Bob McLaren owns forty four farms.

1632
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: It's right, it's a.

1633
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 8: Itch you just kind of can't. You can't shake because

1634
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 8: you're it's an obsession and it's I can think of

1635
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 8: a lot worse ones. But I mean, uh, just raising

1636
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 8: cows and just trying to make a living at it

1637
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 8: and do it the right way. It's really hard nowadays,

1638
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 8: but I think that. I mean, once again, I think

1639
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 8: if you want something bad now, I really think it

1640
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 8: could be done.

1641
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 1: Pops was your Pops of the Tights game?

1642
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 3: Uh?

1643
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was.

1644
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,440
Speaker 1: I saw a guy walking out of the tunnel.

1645
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 3: And so I I used to teach a long time ago,

1646
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 3: and we always used to play this game of what

1647
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 3: parents would go with the killer saw the parents and

1648
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 3: You're going, that's I saw your pops from behind, Yeah,

1649
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 3: talent's back pocket and ye had that hat on.

1650
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 1: I was like, that's Cage's dad.

1651
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 3: I promise you, I mean walk the same the same

1652
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 3: gate everything was.

1653
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: He was he in the sports growing up?

1654
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 6: Was that he played.

1655
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 8: He played tight end at bowling green. Uh yeah, so yeah,

1656
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 8: I guess he was. Yeah, he was a big dude.

1657
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 1: He was a So did he grow up on a farm?

1658
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:00,520
Speaker 1: How did he?

1659
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 6: So?

1660
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 8: His grandfather, my great grandfather, who I was super super close,

1661
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 8: was passed away when I was a freshman in freshman

1662
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 8: in college. Okay, So I was like a very very

1663
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 8: good relationship with my great grandfather, which is unbelievable.

1664
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 9: He was a farmer, okay.

1665
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 8: Right, and then my grandpa dabbled in ten or twelve cows.

1666
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 8: And then Dad always like just like me, like you

1667
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 8: got the itch, You're like, I got to make it

1668
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 8: work somehow.

1669
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 9: And he found our farm and just he.

1670
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 8: Started with two head of coles and just build it

1671
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 8: up to what he is now.

1672
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: So he played at Bowling Green, you played at Ohio State.

1673
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 2: When was it a parent that you were going to

1674
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 2: come to the National Football League, to the family and

1675
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: to you?

1676
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 8: I think that, I mean, honestly, honestly, if it wouldn't

1677
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 8: have been for him keeping my head right, especially early

1678
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 8: on in Ohio State, when things your red shirt like

1679
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 8: COVID happens, you're not really like you're not really doing

1680
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 8: what you think you.

1681
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 9: Should be doing.

1682
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 1: The farm is calling, right, you know what I mean.

1683
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 8: You're like, you know, I'm my gosh, Like do I

1684
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 8: get out of here? Do you go somewhere else? And

1685
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 8: he always even in high school, like like I go

1686
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 8: to a small school, right, and like you're playing really

1687
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 8: really good, And he's always like, dude, just it's gonna come.

1688
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 9: Don't go chasing it.

1689
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 8: Like I never went to camps, I never went to

1690
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 8: anything like to go and try and get my name

1691
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 8: out there. He was like, if you're good enough, they're

1692
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 8: gonna come to you. He always had the faith and

1693
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 8: saw even before I did, Like when I was in

1694
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 8: college and like I said, when things weren't going right,

1695
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 8: I'd call him and be like, dude, like I don't

1696
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 8: know if I like, you know what I mean, Like

1697
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 8: you question like do you belong here or not?

1698
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 9: Like why am I playing yet? Could you come?

1699
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 8: You're best in your school, You're you're mister football while

1700
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 8: you're the Gay Rider player of the year.

1701
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 9: Like why can't I play here?

1702
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 8: And I mean you think all the dark dark nights,

1703
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 8: you're like sitting there and people don't really understand how

1704
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 8: hard that is on a kid, Like it's.

1705
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,839
Speaker 9: Mhm, I mean it's it's awful.

1706
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 8: Oh and he always is just like he goes, dude,

1707
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 8: and he goes, if you want something bad enough, like

1708
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 8: you're gonna work to get it, You're gonna get it.

1709
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 8: He goes, you got everything it takes, dude. And I really,

1710
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 8: like I still to that this day. I hold on

1711
01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 8: that all the time.

1712
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 3: Who has been here, kaid your rock as a rookie

1713
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 3: someone I mean obviously you know CJ. But who's been

1714
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 3: kind of your rock that's you when things aren't you know,

1715
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 3: going well and the pend know, the appendectay happens and

1716
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 3: you're like, dang, who's been that rock for.

1717
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: You throughout this season? Be it in the building, out

1718
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: of the building, folks, you know, whoever.

1719
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 8: I mean still, I mean, number one, it's always gonna

1720
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 8: be my dad, like talking to him.

1721
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: Uh.

1722
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 8: And then really Dalton Dalton and like Brevin early on,

1723
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 8: like here in camp, like those two are really I

1724
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 8: mean honestly, they could have been they could have been

1725
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,839
Speaker 8: not very nice to me obviously if they wanted to be. Uh,

1726
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 8: but it was not like that whatsoever. And then now

1727
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 8: we're at the point where I really understood I really

1728
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 8: know everybody and yep, I mean.

1729
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:44,640
Speaker 9: I can't tell you.

1730
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 8: I think eighty five percent of the team facetimeed me

1731
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 8: or called me after I got like when they figured

1732
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 8: out I got that stuff.

1733
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

1734
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 8: And it's just as a rookie, I'm like, it's you

1735
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 8: know what I mean, it means a lot to me,

1736
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 8: and I think I mean a lot to these guys.

1737
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 8: I think they understand, like I really do care about

1738
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 8: every single I just want to win ball games.

1739
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: You know, it's inspiring to them. I would imagine you

1740
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: coming back and playing yeah so quick.

1741
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 8: I mean, like it's just it's one thing to be

1742
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 8: like you want everyone gets their own and understand like

1743
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 8: everything's I can do more, but like it really.

1744
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 9: Is just for me.

1745
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 8: I just want to win ball games and contribute in

1746
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 8: whatever way you need me to do.

1747
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 2: Outstanding Well, Kate, thanks so much for the visit. We

1748
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

1749
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 1: Best of luck.

1750
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 6: Appreciate you guys. Thanks.

1751
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 2: There's our visit with Cad stover here in the hun

1752
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 2: Day Texans Radio studio. Some of you might have heard

1753
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: that earlier in the week, but man, New Year's Eve,

1754
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 2: New Year's Day, there's been a lot of good content here.

1755
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 2: We had to get out multiple times to make sure

1756
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 2: that the Texans fans got a chance to sample it,

1757
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: including Miles Bryant. Johnny and I visited with him.

1758
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 3: What did he have to say about playing Nickel, about

1759
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 3: making plays for this defense in the regular season finale

1760
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,839
Speaker 3: and in the postseason. That's next year on Texans All Access.

1761
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 3: All right, final segment of the show. A longer night

1762
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 3: here on.

1763
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: Texans Radio because there's no Thursday night game, two NFL

1764
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: games on Saturday, and as I said earlier in the night,

1765
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 2: everything stacked up really well this weekend. For whatever slots

1766
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 2: remain in the playoff hunt in the NFL, you know

1767
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 2: your Texans are in. They'll play the Titans in a

1768
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 2: game that does not upgrade their standing at all, but

1769
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 2: it would upgrade the way they feel maybe going into

1770
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 2: the postseason by playing well. We'll see how it all

1771
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 2: shakes out. Sunday at noon, But Johnny and I had

1772
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 2: a chance to catch up with Miles Bryant. Some of

1773
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 2: this aired earlier, but great visit with Miles Bryant.

1774
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: New Year. Everybody in a festive mood.

1775
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 10: Happy New Year.

1776
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 2: All right, here we go training, getting ready, practicing for

1777
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans regular season finale. What's it like to

1778
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 2: get ready for a game where you know you're already

1779
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 2: in the playoffs and this doesn't really affect seeding, but

1780
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 2: you want to play well. You want to show up,

1781
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: do a good job. How's it going for you getting

1782
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 2: ready for this one?

1783
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 10: Uh, it's going well. I'm excited for it. You know,

1784
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 10: opportunity to go out there and play, and like you said,

1785
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 10: you want to go out there perform will I think

1786
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:58,520
Speaker 10: even though like you said, there's no kind of consequence

1787
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 10: with win or losing it and just seating. I think

1788
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 10: at this point of the year, you want to roll

1789
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 10: into the playoffs with a good momentum. You want to,

1790
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 10: you know, play some of your best ball or your

1791
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 10: best ball at this time of the year, So it's

1792
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 10: very important.

1793
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: Miles.

1794
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 3: Most players will have a designation offensive tackle, wide receiver.

1795
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 3: For you, it's just dB, nickel, safety, corner. I mean

1796
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 3: you've played them all throughout your career. Watching you from

1797
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 3: your days in Washington until now, it feels like you're

1798
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 3: most comfortable at the nickel position, and it feels like

1799
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 3: that's a position where you got to take all of

1800
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 3: those defensive back assets and kind of put them into

1801
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,759
Speaker 3: play at that position. What's it like kind of playing

1802
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 3: inside the formation at that spot as opposed to maybe

1803
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 3: playing deeper at safety or playing outside a corner.

1804
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's kind of like you said, taking

1805
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 10: all those qualities and then I think you also got

1806
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 10: to add in the linebacker. That's certain things that you know,

1807
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,680
Speaker 10: our defense may ask you to where you got to

1808
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 10: get in there and play the run. So, I mean

1809
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 10: it's a lot of fun you get in there. You know,

1810
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 10: you're always around the action. You know a lot of

1811
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 10: offenses they like to attack the middle of the field, right,

1812
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 10: So the nickel plays. Sometimes you play corner, you might

1813
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 10: not have a target that game. Sometimes you play safety,

1814
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 10: you might just you know, be in the deep part

1815
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 10: of the field and that's all you're doing. So I

1816
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 10: mean in the nickel at the nickel spot, you're always

1817
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 10: around the action, You're always at the point of attack.

1818
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 10: So I think it's a lot of fun.

1819
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 9: Yep.

1820
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 2: Well, and in the situation the team is now Jelen

1821
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 2: p triout, Jimmy Ward out, what's happen like for you

1822
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 2: to see those guys go out and now you're gonna

1823
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 2: get more playing time? In all likelihood, I know they're

1824
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 2: going to move you around and everything. And how is

1825
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 2: that for you to approach that and practice and in games?

1826
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it was tough losing those guys, but

1827
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 10: I think I learned a lot from them. I mean

1828
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 10: even you know, Jalen being younger than me, I just

1829
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 10: sat back and then you know, we would be in

1830
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 10: the meeting room out of ask him what he saw

1831
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 10: here or what he thought here, you know, how you

1832
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:58,759
Speaker 10: made that play or what he could have done better.

1833
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 10: And then same with Jimmy. So I mean, it's an

1834
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 10: opportunity to go out there and you know, just play

1835
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 10: the game. I love go out there and just perform

1836
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 10: and you know, try to get a win against Tennessee.

1837
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 2: You feel like you want to lobby for blitzes because

1838
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 2: I would think if I'm playing that position, coach, come on,

1839
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 2: let me go get the quarterbacks, let me let me

1840
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 2: go to the backfield, hand off or whatever. I want

1841
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 2: to go attack the backfield. How is that?

1842
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1843
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 10: I mean it's a lot of fun, you know, getting

1844
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 10: being able to you know, get penetration in the backfield,

1845
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 10: or you know, they want you to cover a guy

1846
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 10: in the slot. I think, no matter the opportunity, I

1847
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 10: think is a lot of fun.

1848
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: Last week it's Derrick Henry, I mean Derrick Henry.

1849
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 3: This week it might not be a guy's size like

1850
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry with Tennessee and don't know whether the two

1851
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 3: backs they have are going to play or not. What's

1852
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 3: kind of your Scotter report thus four miles and what

1853
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 3: you see from Tennessee, especially the running backs.

1854
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: Let's start about, you know, stopping the run, because that's

1855
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 1: one of.

1856
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 3: The first parts you've got to do playing that role,

1857
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 3: playing the running backs, playing the run.

1858
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: Game for Tennessee. What's the key against those guys this week?

1859
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 10: I think it's just having everybody at the point of

1860
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 10: its tach, you know, no matter who's you know, carrying

1861
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 10: the ball for them. Just you know, making sure guys

1862
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 10: are you know, in the right gaps, and then once

1863
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 10: we're in the gap, you take care of what you

1864
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 10: got to do, whether that's getting off a block or

1865
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 10: you know, just setting the edge and doing that and

1866
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 10: then you know, just coming off and making the tackle.

1867
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,879
Speaker 10: So I think it's just you know, having guys swarm.

1868
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 6: To the ball.

1869
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 2: So, Miles, you were undrafted, do you feel like when

1870
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 2: you're undrafted it's a different mindset and you're fighting to

1871
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: make the team. You're on practice squad sometimes sometimes not

1872
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 2: on the active roster. What is the approach and how

1873
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 2: does that affect the way you go about your business?

1874
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think initially coming into the league, it was

1875
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 10: kind of like felt like the the odds were against

1876
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 10: me in a sense. And then once you get into

1877
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 10: the league, you kind of see, you know, how things happen.

1878
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,839
Speaker 10: And I think it's a very week to week league.

1879
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 10: So I mean for me just coming in since day one,

1880
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 10: I just tried to make sure I was prepared whether

1881
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 10: I was playing that week or I was just you know,

1882
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 10: helping out on the scout team. And I think that's

1883
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 10: been my mindset, you know, the past five years, just

1884
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,759
Speaker 10: whether I was starting that week, you know, just trying

1885
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 10: to be prepared to go help the team win.

1886
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 3: So, Miles, did you have that moment earlier career where

1887
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, I wasn't drafted, but man, I could

1888
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 3: play with these dudes. Like, did you have that kind

1889
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 3: of moment, whether it's earlier in your first training camp,

1890
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,720
Speaker 3: in a preseason game, or whatever the case might be,

1891
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 3: where you're like, I can't play with these guys, man, yeah,

1892
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 3: I deserve to be here. Did you ever have kind

1893
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 3: of that moment early in your career?

1894
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1895
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 10: I think it was the first play of my training

1896
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 10: my rookie training camp. I ended up getting an interception

1897
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 10: and seven or seven Yeah, so I was like, you

1898
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 10: got kind of yeah, that kind of could show them

1899
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 10: that I could play. And then from there just you know,

1900
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 10: each day, each moment, you know, each rep, just try

1901
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 10: to get better, no matter who I was going against,

1902
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 10: whether I was on scout team going against Jillian Edelman

1903
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 10: at the time, or I was on the defensive team

1904
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 10: and I had a scout receiver going against me, just

1905
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 10: you know, trying to get better, trying to you know,

1906
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 10: sharpened the craft.

1907
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 2: Miles Bryant with us, we talk about swarm what a

1908
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,839
Speaker 2: swarm mean to you? What's the message to the players

1909
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 2: about swarm?

1910
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 10: I mean special work ethic, relentless mindset. I think just

1911
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 10: going out there and you know, just playing fast, playing

1912
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 10: physical and just trying to trying to everybody coming together

1913
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 10: to you know, get get the gold done.

1914
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: Very good.

1915
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 3: So you're from Pasadena if I remember crack right, yep,

1916
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 3: But you go to University Washington and while you're at Washington,

1917
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 3: you guys ended up playing in the playoff while you

1918
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 3: were there, right, was that correct?

1919
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1920
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 1: That was my freshman that was your freshman year. What

1921
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 1: was that like?

1922
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 3: Because we got the playoff going on on New Year's Day?

1923
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: You know, they played Boise State and Penn State. What

1924
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 1: was that like?

1925
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 3: Because Washington at that point had not been in the

1926
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 3: playoff mix, and all of a sudden, you guys have

1927
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 3: this tremendous year and you make that run and I

1928
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,680
Speaker 3: know you ran into Alabama, which is a really good

1929
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 3: team at that point. But what was it like being

1930
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 3: that colle football playoff?

1931
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 6: Miles Man?

1932
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 10: The atmosphere was crazy? I think, uh we played in Atlanta, Yeah,

1933
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 10: and the what was it the Georgia doing. I think

1934
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,599
Speaker 10: Georgia don't I think it might have been the last

1935
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 10: game there, but the atmosphere was crazy, just you know,

1936
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 10: going out there and kind of felt like it was

1937
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 10: all Alabama versus US. YEP, granted the location, Yeah yeah, yeah,

1938
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 10: so uh but no, it was crazy. I think the

1939
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 10: atmosphere was like second to none. And then I think

1940
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 10: you look back at that game and then you see

1941
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 10: all the NFL players from both sides, both sides of

1942
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 10: the game, Yeah, and it's just like it's ridiculous. Yeah,

1943
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 10: I don't know from their side, like Jalen Hurts, Marlon Humphrey,

1944
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 10: Minka Fitzpatrick, I think Jonathan Allen, Deron Payin, like a

1945
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 10: bunch of guys.

1946
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: So there was that was a load. That was a

1947
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: loaded team.

1948
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1949
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 1: That twenty sixteen team was Ruben Foster linebacker.

1950
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 3: I mean that was scary. I mean that was that

1951
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 3: incredible team. But that was such a great run by Washington.

1952
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 3: What was it like kind of going through that season

1953
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 3: and at that time there's only four teams in the playoffs,

1954
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,959
Speaker 3: so there's no guarantee.

1955
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: Now you got twelve, you guys probably would have gotten in.

1956
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 3: But what was it like kind of going through that

1957
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 3: at Washington where you guys are trying to build a

1958
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 3: program back up where it needed to be.

1959
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I mean for me,

1960
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 10: it was my freshman year. I actually walked on that year,

1961
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 10: and I was able to get you know, a lot

1962
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 10: of plays, a lot of snaps because we were beating

1963
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 10: teams bad, so I was able to get in that

1964
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 10: late third quarter and get some reps in. But no,

1965
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 10: it was a lot of fun. I think the guys

1966
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 10: that were before me, like Buddha Baker, Kevin King, Sidney Jones,

1967
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 10: just learning from those guys, seeing how they practice, seeing

1968
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 10: how they prepared. And then I mean each each game

1969
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 10: day it was a lot of fun because I mean

1970
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 10: we knew we were going to beat the other team

1971
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 10: across from us, and I mean each week, I feel

1972
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 10: like it was I don't know, I feel like every

1973
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 10: every game we had like a collective win. It wasn't

1974
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 10: like it was just one guy, you know, John Ross,

1975
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:10,799
Speaker 10: Dante Pettis, Miles Gaskin or mixed special teams play. Just yeah, guys,

1976
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 10: guys just making plays. It was a lot of fun.

1977
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 2: Miles Bryant with US you left college football before COVID,

1978
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 2: So now when you look at college football and all

1979
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 2: the craziness, the NIL stuff, the portal, the way it's

1980
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 2: all set up. Right now, what's your reaction to the

1981
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 2: state of college football today.

1982
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 10: It's kind of tough. I feel like for I don't know,

1983
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,759
Speaker 10: fans and players, it's kind of it's kind of hard

1984
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 10: to necessarily. I mean, you have your team if you

1985
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 10: if you're an Arkansas fan or Missouri Michigan State fan,

1986
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 10: like that's your team. But it's kind of like you

1987
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 10: don't become enamored with the players. How we once, did

1988
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 10: you know what I mean, Like you had a guy

1989
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 10: for four years, Yeah, you had a guy three four

1990
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 10: years to where it's like, all right, I grew up.

1991
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 10: Like even Robert Woods was in high school and was

1992
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 10: at s S, so like I got to see him

1993
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 10: grow and become you know who he was at SC.

1994
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,160
Speaker 10: So I think I think you lose that kind of

1995
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 10: aspect of it, which I kind of don't like. And

1996
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 10: then you also got the business aspect of it to

1997
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 10: where the NIL people you know, might stay at an

1998
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 10: extra year. I saw quinn Ewers got offered six million

1999
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 10: dollars from whatever school to stay extra year. So I

2000
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 10: mean it's kind of I don't know, I feel like

2001
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 10: it's kind of tough to follow just guys moving year

2002
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 10: to year now, but I don't know, it's it's the

2003
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 10: current state. You gotta you just gotta weather as a player, coach,

2004
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 10: R fan.

2005
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 3: So you're talking about Robert obviously from Pasadena, California where

2006
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl being played, Oregon, Ohio state.

2007
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: Who did you grow up watching? Who were your guys

2008
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 1: growing up?

2009
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:52,839
Speaker 3: Was there like somebody you looked at and thought, Okay,

2010
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 3: I want.

2011
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 1: To be like him, I want to play like him.

2012
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 3: Was there anybody that that you really love that that

2013
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 3: was a guy you whether is offense, defense, whatever it

2014
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 3: might be, but it's a guy that you just loved

2015
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 3: watching and that was your guy growing up?

2016
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think so mostly offensive guys, but growing up,

2017
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 10: you know, USC had that run.

2018
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, jerro Lyndale, Lionert Brendale.

2019
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 10: So I think mainly it was Reggie Bush.

2020
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 2: There's our visit with Texans dB Miles Bryant. Much more

2021
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 2: to that, and you can catch up with Texans podcasts

2022
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 2: on the Texans App, Spotify, on the Odyssey app, everywhere

2023
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 2: where you get your podcasts.

2024
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 1: That's where we are now.

2025
01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:35,639
Speaker 2: Tomorrow Night, Demico Ryans on the show as we talked

2026
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 2: to him prior to the matchup with Tennessee. Plus Robert

2027
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 2: Woods and brew Doherty get together a bunch of other

2028
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 2: things as well. So catch us at six tomorrow six

2029
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 2: to nine, extended three hour program. Looking forward to it,

2030
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 2: looking forward to Sunday, all of it. It's football postseason

2031
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 2: time in Houston. Thanks for listening. Area forty five Coming

2032
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Speaker 2: up next, Go Texans.