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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Monday edition. Thanksgiving week, and

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Speaker 1: we have much to be thankful for here on the

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck Show as the Trump landslide continues to

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Speaker 1: spread across the land. I am in solo with you

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Speaker 1: on Monday and Tuesday. Buck is out with his family.

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Speaker 1: We will have a best of on Thursday Friday. Yes, truly,

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Speaker 1: there are some clips that they can play and actually

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Speaker 1: say that they are better than others.

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Speaker 2: Some of you are out there like all shows thinks

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Speaker 2: all the time.

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Speaker 1: Well, they managed to put together a best of ally

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Speaker 1: did on Thursday and Friday, so that will be there

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Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 2: For those of you.

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Speaker 1: Who are traveling, I'm sure many of you have begun

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Speaker 1: the process of traveling to be with your friends and

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Speaker 1: family for Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: We want all of you to be safe.

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Speaker 1: Also a good time to remind you, hey, maybe get

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Speaker 1: out there and go ahead and subscribe to the podcast,

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Speaker 1: because no matter where you are, you can listen to us.

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Speaker 1: You can take us with you. Maybe a bunch of

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Speaker 1: you are going to be on the road driving on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be driving with my whole family, six

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Speaker 1: of us in a car, so probably need something good

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Speaker 1: to listen to, and I bet many of you out

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Speaker 1: there will be the same. So you can search out

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Speaker 1: my name Clay Travis, you can search out Buck Sexton,

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Speaker 1: and you can listen to us anywhere around the world

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Speaker 1: and certainly anywhere in the United States. But we want

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Speaker 1: all of you to be safe. I dropped my parents

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Speaker 1: off yesterday at the airport. My dad is recovering from

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Speaker 1: a broken hip. I actually was really impressed. I want

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Speaker 1: to thank the airline, Southwest Airlines taking him down to

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Speaker 1: the beach to be with my family or my wife

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Speaker 1: and youngest already are. They were fabulous. He was not

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Speaker 1: excited about being in a wheelchair, first time he's ever

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Speaker 1: been in a wheelchair to travel. He's still recovering, but

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Speaker 1: they were great at that. I hope, especially if you

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Speaker 1: have older family members who are traveling, that everybody keeps

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Speaker 1: their patience during the holiday season because a lot of

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Speaker 1: stressed people at airports, a lot of stressed people all

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Speaker 1: over the place, young and old. But I wanted to

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Speaker 1: happen for you, for your parents, for your grandparents, and

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Speaker 1: certainly for a lot of you with young kids. You

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Speaker 1: know how challenging that can all be. But it's the

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Speaker 1: holiday season, and like I said, we've got a lot

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Speaker 1: to be thankful for having said that. Get your popcorn,

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Speaker 1: because some people are going to be fired up with

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Speaker 1: what I am going to start off the show talking

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Speaker 1: about with all of you today. Biden didn't get eighty

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Speaker 1: one million votes in my opinion, in a legal way.

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Speaker 1: And I know that's supposed to be outlandish and outrageous

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Speaker 1: and you can't mention it because election denialism is a

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Speaker 1: phrase that they have created to try to make you

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Speaker 1: unable to say it. But over the weekend, I feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable that all of the votes by and large are

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Speaker 1: finally in. I've been waiting, been waiting on this. Buck

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, doing my reading for those of you

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Speaker 1: who are VIPs, I'm gonna hold it up for you

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Speaker 1: so you can see that I am the old man

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Speaker 1: who still reads the physical print newspaper.

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Speaker 2: And in the New York.

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Speaker 1: Times they have a headline keys to Trump's win, Big

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Speaker 2: This is the headline from the New York Times.

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Speaker 1: What they just weren't excited, One observer said, of Democrats

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Speaker 1: the headline. Those of you can see it. Key to

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Speaker 1: and then here's their open It may seem like a

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Speaker 1: clear story. Donald Trump won the election by winning the

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Speaker 1: but just as consequential to the outcome where Kamala Harris losses.

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Speaker 1: She earned about seven million fewer votes compared with Joe

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Speaker 2: How did that happen?

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Speaker 1: Trump has now run for president three different times. We

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Speaker 1: this country in twenty sixteen. In fact, Trump got sixty

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Speaker 1: as my mom likes to say, opinions are like butts.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's got one. I think you can still say that.

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Speaker 2: The front, not the back. That's what the left likes

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Speaker 1: Oh, you know, sometimes babies are born and doctors just

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Speaker 1: they get the sex wrong. Really, that's interesting in the

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Speaker 1: During COVID, They did it during the twenty twenty election,

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Speaker 1: But on the issues that I talk to you guys about,

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Speaker 2: Well that's the New York Times headline.

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Speaker 2: Point one million fewer.

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Speaker 1: Votes than Joe Biden got in twenty twenty, doesn't that

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Speaker 2: Get eighty one million votes Joe Biden?

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Speaker 1: Was he a uniquely talented political figure? Was he a

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden bring together so many people that they said,

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Speaker 2: Would any of you say that?

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Speaker 1: What? Maybe Joe Biden would say it. Joe Biden's wife,

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Speaker 2: Would say it. Let's look at the data.

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Speaker 1: Trump ran in twenty sixteen and he got sixty two

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Speaker 2: Now, at the time.

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Speaker 1: That Trump won in twenty sixteen, the most votes that

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Speaker 2: But it's kind of interesting. I think if you had

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the math just ain't math in for me.

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Speaker 1: Now that we have three different Trump runs, it's very

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Speaker 1: interesting to look at and say, hey, what happened here?

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Speaker 1: Trump went in twenty sixteen from sixty two point nine

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Speaker 1: that doesn't seem real. Well, he took it to seventy

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Speaker 1: We'll see on the final tally, Kamala dropped by seven

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Speaker 2: What's going on here? How do we explain that?

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Speaker 1: I want to dive into these numbers again. I'm citing

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Speaker 1: the New York Times, which now says, look, Kamala is

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Speaker 1: going to get seven point one million fewer voters. That

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Speaker 1: should set off alarm bells. That's a big drop. She's

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Speaker 1: losing about ten percent of her support. Meanwhile, Trump's going up.

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Speaker 1: And you can say, okay, maybe a couple million of

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Speaker 1: those people were Biden voters in twenty twenty who flip

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Speaker 1: That doesn't seem crazy to me, and that Trump's numbers

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Speaker 1: Why is nobody talking about this? Why is there virtually

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Did you vote for Biden in twenty

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Speaker 1: Doesn't add up, Katie. You're in Alaska. You were a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I apologize for twenty twenty. I apologize.

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Speaker 1: We give you absolution. You're in the confession room here. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So what made you change your mind? And looking back now,

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Speaker 4: No, it doesn't make any sense. And that's half the

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Speaker 4: never go back to the Democratic Party because the lies

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, and thank you, by the way,

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Speaker 1: how's the weather in Alaska? Is it's snowy yet? What

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Speaker 4: I am in Anchorage and we are getting snow right now.

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Speaker 4: It's a winter wonderland. Come up and see us. I

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Speaker 4: appreciate the no way Biden got those votes no way

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for the call, and thank you Katie

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Speaker 4: Say twenty twenty one, when my quote party started chasing

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Speaker 2: And I love you guys, thank you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I like the tease of listen to

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Speaker 1: I mean again, I don't think I am making any

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Speaker 2: Like Katie.

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Speaker 1: Katie said, Look, I voted for Biden in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: Remember when they wouldn't let us say that COVID likely

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Speaker 1: I still don't understand that. It's Oh no, you can't

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Speaker 1: If you were just making an argument of what's remember

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Speaker 2: I do know, I'm not buying it right.

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Speaker 2: And if you just said.

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Speaker 1: We came back with things that make you go, if

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Speaker 3: Don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm an adult. I don't believe in the concept of

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Speaker 1: to say.

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Speaker 2: I just don't buy that.

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Speaker 1: You might not like what somebody says, but the idea

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, why can't I have this conversation. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we landed on the moon. I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: make your argument. Made the argument. I said, I disagree

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Speaker 1: some of you out there may disagree with me, but

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Speaker 1: you can make an argument. It's not unacceptable to say

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Speaker 1: something that might be unpopular. In fact, that's how societal

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Speaker 1: The First Amendment wasn't designed to protect majority opinion. It

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Speaker 1: was designed to protect minority opinion. And I don't mean

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Speaker 1: As my con law professor used to say, democracy left

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Speaker 2: Should be afraid of. And the number of people who

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Speaker 1: Honest conversations because of what the consequences of those conversations

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Speaker 1: Julie Kelly about to join me. But if you happen

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Speaker 1: to be watching NBC, about an hour ago, they broke

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Speaker 1: into programming with this announcement, Listen.

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Speaker 2: This is an NBC News special report. Here's Lester Holt.

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Speaker 5: Good day We're coming on the earth breaking news about

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Speaker 5: President elect Donald Trump. The Justice Department Special counsel Jack

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Speaker 5: Smith just filed a motion to dismiss the federal criminal

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Speaker 5: case against the president elect over his efforts to overturn

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Speaker 5: the twenty twenty election results. The news comes after NBC

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Speaker 5: News learned the Justice Department had been planning to wind

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Speaker 5: down its federal cases against mister Trump. It also comes

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Speaker 5: as NBC News learn that Smith and his team plan

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Speaker 5: to resign before mister Trump returns to the White House.

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Speaker 1: All right, that was INBC. We bring in now Julie Kelly,

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Speaker 1: who has been right on everything on with us for years.

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Speaker 2: Julie, what do.

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Speaker 1: You before we get into what's coming next, what do

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Speaker 1: you think so many people out there who were told, oh,

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Speaker 1: Trump's going to go to prison for the rest of

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Speaker 1: his life. Oh my goodness, he had no right to

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Speaker 1: do any of this. Supreme Court has come out and said, actually,

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Speaker 1: much of this was occurring within his presidential authority. I

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Speaker 1: think that's an important precedent that they've set, whether you're

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Speaker 1: a Democratic, Republican or independent.

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Speaker 2: And now Jack Smith is like a rat on.

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Speaker 1: A sinking ship that's scurrying to try to get on

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Speaker 1: a lifeboat. I mean, this is pretty extraordinary to see

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Speaker 1: all of this just come spiraling down around him.

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Speaker 2: What happens next?

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Speaker 6: It really is Clay. I mean, we could not have

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Speaker 6: written a better ending to this story and the years

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Speaker 6: that we have discussed the January sixth prosecution. Of course,

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Speaker 6: two years of covering Special Counsel Jack Smith. What a

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Speaker 6: humiliating and deserving end. Of course, we have to say

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Speaker 6: for Jack Smith and his team of prescatorial thugs in

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Speaker 6: Florida and in Washington. But let's pause for a moment.

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Speaker 6: The NBC News broke into programming. This is the sort

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Speaker 6: of stuff that used to be reserved for, like you know,

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Speaker 6: for president we shot or we went to war, not

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Speaker 6: because a corrupt prosecutor was forced to drop a week

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Speaker 6: four acount indictment against the former and incoming president. If

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Speaker 6: this reflects the media's obsession with this and how much

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Speaker 6: it means to them, how devastating it is to the

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Speaker 6: regime media and Democrats that this is over so again,

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Speaker 6: Jacksmith today filing Washington dropping dismissing the foretoun indictment against

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Speaker 6: the president related to the events of January sixth. In

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Speaker 6: July judging Lean Cannon already dismissed that indictment and that

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Speaker 6: jurisdiction for you know, the alleged classified documents case. So

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Speaker 6: now both of these cases are dead letters for now.

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Speaker 6: I have to note that in his last dirty trick,

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Speaker 6: Jack Smith moved to dismiss the Washington case without prejudice.

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Speaker 6: That means Clay you know this as an attorney. That

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Speaker 6: means they sort of reserve it. They kind of you know,

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Speaker 6: dismiss it, but somebody could bring it back to life later.

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Speaker 6: If you dismiss it with prejudice, it means it's overdone.

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Speaker 6: No one can resuscocate the case. So he's still trying

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Speaker 6: to cling to the belief that this week four account

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Speaker 6: indictment that was gutted by the Supreme Court after a

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Speaker 6: community of rowing in July somehow is still legitimate. And oh,

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Speaker 6: except for the fact that he was elected, we would

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Speaker 6: have moved forward with it and won. He would not have.

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Speaker 6: So now it's time to turn the tables. As we've

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Speaker 6: talked about, Jack Smith and his team must be investigated,

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Speaker 6: and this must happen, must happen by a trumpcyoj and

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Speaker 6: Republicans in the House and Senate. You need accountability for

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Speaker 6: what has been done here, for the lives that have

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Speaker 6: been told to the American people, and to make sure

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Speaker 6: that these bad actors are held accountable and so this

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Speaker 6: never happens again to a Republican or a Democrat president.

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Speaker 1: Julie, I think it's important now that the full counting

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Speaker 1: from twenty twenty four, three weeks later is done to

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Speaker 1: remember what was the impetus behind much of these charges

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Speaker 1: was a belief that Joe Biden didn't get eighty one

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Speaker 1: million legal votes. Now that we have seen twenty sixteen

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Speaker 1: and twenty twenty and twenty twenty four, in their totality,

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Speaker 1: Kamala got seven million less votes than Joe Biden did.

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Speaker 1: Does the math add up to you? I'm telling everybody

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Speaker 1: out there today, the math doesn't add up to me.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody actually still believe that Joe Biden got eighty

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Speaker 1: one million legitimate votes?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think Joe Biden does so.

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Speaker 1: His brain doesn't his brain doesn't work. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Julie, like I wanted to withhold do is.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see what happened in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to see the full tally. I didn't

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Speaker 1: want to jump out the day after and be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Kamala got eleven million less votes or whatever the tally was.

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Speaker 1: We got three weeks of counting, she's going to be

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Speaker 1: seven million behind.

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Speaker 2: I think a.

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Speaker 1: Big part of this is suddenly I think people are

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Speaker 1: going to be able to put their heads up and say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that the math adds.

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Speaker 6: Up here absolutely correct. And I think that graph that

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Speaker 6: was going around a few days after election day was

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Speaker 6: really shocking and illuminating, you know, the bar graph as

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Speaker 6: to what the vote totals were in twenty sixteen, then

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Speaker 6: this huge fight in twenty twenty for Democrats, then sort

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Speaker 6: of returning back to normal. So this is why Donald

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Speaker 6: Trump said last week that he will fire everyone Jack

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Speaker 6: Smith and his team, who is already already said they're

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Speaker 6: going to resign before Donald Trump takes office. But he

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Speaker 6: also will deploy resources in the DOJ to investigate the

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty election and all again play the lies that

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Speaker 6: we were told by everyone from Attorney General Bill Barr

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Speaker 6: at the time to then the acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosman,

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Speaker 6: TOPDJ and FBI officials who insist there was no evidence

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Speaker 6: of voting fraud and furthermore claim that they had conducted

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Speaker 6: investigations when we later found out there was no DOJ

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Speaker 6: investigations into these various states and voting frauds. So I

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Speaker 6: think that given the results of twenty twenty four, it

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Speaker 6: is fair for the president now to look into really

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Speaker 6: what happened because we strongly believe the election was stolen.

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Speaker 6: We see what has happened to our country in the

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Speaker 6: wake of Biden's stolen presidential election, and again we are

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Speaker 6: entitled to the truth one way or the other. We

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Speaker 6: just want to know exactly what happened, what didn't happen

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Speaker 6: to just like the Jacksmith make sure it does not

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Speaker 6: happen again.

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Speaker 2: What should happen to Jacksmith?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of.

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Speaker 6: All, I implore Charles Grassley, the incoming Senate Judiciary Committee chairman,

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Speaker 6: to send a letter directly to Jacksmith and his team

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Speaker 6: telling them not to leave the country. As we've talked about,

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Speaker 6: Clay jack Smith and one of his prosecutors, David Harbach,

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Speaker 6: were at the Hague overseeing criminal prosecution of the Kosovo

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Speaker 6: former Kosovo president on war crimes. There are rumors that

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Speaker 6: he plans to resign and then quickly return to the Hague.

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Speaker 6: He should not leave the country. And I think that's

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Speaker 6: something that Charles grass Leaves, Senator from Iowa, needs to

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Speaker 6: warn Jacksmith and his team not to leave because they

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Speaker 6: need a full blown investigation into the Special Counsel's office.

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Speaker 6: What I reported, what happened in the Florida case, specifically

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Speaker 6: tampering with evidence, destruction of evidence, obstructing investigations, threatening witnesses

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Speaker 6: and lawyers, which is what Jay Brett did, and proven

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Speaker 6: conspiracy clay between the National Archives DOJ, and the Biden

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Speaker 6: White House to concoct some sort of document's case against

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump as early as the spring of twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 6: We saw the record, we saw the correspondence between those

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Speaker 6: three entities, and the idea that Joe Biden's White House

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Speaker 6: is somehow insulated from the two unprecedented criminal prosecutions of

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump just does not match the evidence and even

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Speaker 6: some of Joe Biden's own public statements. So there is

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Speaker 6: a lot to dig into here. And you know, it's

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Speaker 6: very tough for prosecutors to go after prosecutors, but that's

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Speaker 6: not what Jack Smith was. He was a dirty Democratic operative.

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Speaker 6: This guy is the biggest loser in DOJ history. The

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Speaker 6: Supreme Court unanimously overturned his political conviction of Bob McDonald

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Speaker 6: and his wife. He did not get a single conviction

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Speaker 6: in the first prosecution of Senator Bob Menendez. He did

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Speaker 6: not get a conviction of Senator John Edwards. He was

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Speaker 6: rebuked by the Supreme Court three times this year, in

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Speaker 6: the community of ruling Fisher ruling on fifteen twelve QWO,

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Speaker 6: and the Supreme Court rejecting his emergency appeal to buy

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Speaker 6: I passed the DC Circuit on community ruly and take

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Speaker 6: up that question immediately so they could try to push

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Speaker 6: that case to trial in Washington before the election. He

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Speaker 6: is a loser. He's a rogue Democrat operative disguised as

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Speaker 6: a federal prosecutor, and he must be fully investigated and yes,

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Speaker 6: probably likely face criminal charges of his own.

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Speaker 2: If that all happens.

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Speaker 1: It also then implicates, as you just laid out all

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Speaker 1: of the prosecution of the January sixth defendants, you've covered

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Speaker 1: these individuals better.

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Speaker 2: Than almost anyone in the country.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump may have already asked you, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of his staff listens to this show. Obviously, what should

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Speaker 1: happen in your opinion with the January sixth defendants, should

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Speaker 1: it be uniform action? Do you think there are some

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Speaker 1: people that aren't worthy of clemency from the President. What

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Speaker 1: would you suggest?

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Speaker 6: I would say, and I reject the idea that this

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Speaker 6: needs to be a case by case review. I think

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Speaker 6: for a handful of defendants number one who have criminal histories,

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Speaker 6: or number two are known informants, confidential human sources as

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Speaker 6: they're called, which we know there were dozens, perhaps more

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Speaker 6: than one hundred involved. Most of them were not charged,

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Speaker 6: but a handful probably were. They should be exempted from

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Speaker 6: pardons or commutations. But even those who are accused of

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Speaker 6: assaulting police and the flimsiest conduct, and of course charges

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Speaker 6: that have never been brought against political protesters in Washington,

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Speaker 6: they still had to go before one percent Democrat juries.

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Speaker 6: They had to go before unhinged partisan judges. And shouldn't

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Speaker 6: even say partisan, because some of the Republican judges were

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Speaker 6: worse than the Democrats. This was such a rigged process

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Speaker 6: that even those accused of violence did not have their

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Speaker 6: constitutional rights honors to due process for a fair jury

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Speaker 6: trial before a jury of their peers, where all of

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Speaker 6: the evidence was produced to the judge or jury. We

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Speaker 6: know over and over judges refused to enter into evidence,

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Speaker 6: exculpatory videos, exculpatory testimonies by even federal agents that would

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Speaker 6: have exonerated these defendants. It was rigged time after time.

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Speaker 6: So I strongly support almost a blanket pardon is an

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Speaker 6: easy way to say it, but all of them should

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Speaker 6: should be ammute, should be exonerated, should be pardoned, to

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Speaker 6: be released from prison. You know we have enriched Atario

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Speaker 6: in jail for twenty two years. Clay On a seditious

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Speaker 6: conspiracy conviction. He committed no violence, He wasn't even in Washington,

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Speaker 6: but because he was the head of the prowd boys,

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Speaker 6: the government sought and received by a Trump judge, by

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Speaker 6: the way, Tim Kelly, twenty two years and a federal prison.

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Speaker 6: And I'll tell you I talked to JA six attorney yesterday.

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Speaker 6: These J six defendants, former Marines, former law enforcements, are

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Speaker 6: in some of the worst federal prisons in our country,

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Speaker 6: with hardened long time felons, violent salons, murderers, terrorist rapists.

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Speaker 6: This is where they are being sent to. It is

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Speaker 6: a travesty at every level. And I don't agree with

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Speaker 6: the cap dancing with few exceptions, every single Jay sixer

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Speaker 6: should be pardoned and those who are in prison now

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Speaker 6: should be immediately released from custody.

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Speaker 1: Julie, keep up the fantastic work. Enjoy maybe a nice

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Speaker 1: beverage of your choice to celebrate Jack Smith officially being finished.

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Speaker 1: And I hope that he has to stand and be

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Speaker 1: held accountable for what he did, as well as mayor Garland.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I appreciate the time.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Y.

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Speaker 2: Have great Thanksgiving you too, Julie.

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Speaker 1: I've been doing phenomenal work. Glad you could join us

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Speaker 1: here with that breaking news. Trump officially cleared of all

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Speaker 1: happened in the last few minutes. We'll play some audio

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Speaker 1: for you a bit later. Jack Smith has dropped all

741
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Speaker 1: of the charges against Donald Trump in the Washington d c.

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Speaker 2: Case as well.

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Speaker 1: Now South Florida done your federal government's attempt. Joe Biden's

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Speaker 1: federal government Department of Justice attempt to put his chief

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Speaker 1: political rival Donald Trump in prison for the rest of

746
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Speaker 1: his life has officially gone up in smoke. It's a

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Speaker 1: huge story, and it goes to the election itself in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, which the math just ain't math, and on

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden getting eighty one million votes in my always

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Speaker 1: humble opinion. But we are joined now by a guy

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Speaker 1: who I've watched for years. He is former Georgia and

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Speaker 1: NFL football star David Pollock. He has got a brand

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Speaker 1: new book out. I appreciate him coming on with us

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Speaker 1: right now. And I'm curious. You played college football and

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Speaker 1: you played in the NFL. David, what's your take on

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Speaker 1: the Trump dance that you are seeing athletes everywhere but

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Speaker 1: particular high school, college and NFL players break out?

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Speaker 2: What does it represent? Does it mean anything to you?

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Speaker 3: It's fantastic, that's number one. I literally looked over play

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Speaker 3: in the kitchen yesterday and my son was doing it,

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Speaker 3: my son's and he was there in the kitchen and

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Speaker 3: he was just rocking back and forth, and I just

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Speaker 3: started laughing. But now I think it's you know, listen,

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Speaker 3: players absolutely know what's going on. It's not by accident.

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Speaker 3: Players don't do things just by accident, don't do things

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Speaker 3: that they've seen as they don't know what it means.

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Speaker 3: Especially nowadays. Now some of us big dumb animals from

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Speaker 3: back in the day, we might have done that, but

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Speaker 3: now you know, whatever you do is looked at and

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Speaker 3: you're obviously going to be reposted all over the place.

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Speaker 3: So obviously there's one hundred percent a support message there

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Speaker 3: and a funny message, and I think it's pretty cool

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Speaker 3: by the guys that are doing it.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever think about what your life would have

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Speaker 1: been like, or what your teammate's life would have been

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Speaker 1: like if social media as it exists today had existed

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Speaker 1: when you were on the University of Georgia's campus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have thought about it, and I'm like, man,

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Speaker 3: that would have been miserable. Yeah, because you know, as

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Speaker 3: an athlete, you just try, you know, so hard to

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Speaker 3: kind of get away from things sometimes. And you know,

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Speaker 3: the camera phone pandemic started, you know, kind of in

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Speaker 3: that time for us, and you're like, holy cow. And

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Speaker 3: so then you have the video phones and now social

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Speaker 3: and I just think, you know, these players, man, it's

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Speaker 3: hard for them to find places to get away, you know,

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Speaker 3: from all the all the drama, all the talking about

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Speaker 3: the same sport over and over again. And so I

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Speaker 3: understand the frustration. I think it would have been it'd

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Speaker 3: have been interesting how I handle it. I know it

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Speaker 3: would have been a train wreck. It would have been

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Speaker 3: an absolute train wreck, because what you don't know is

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Speaker 3: what you don't know. And I think some of the

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Speaker 3: kids you see that they're starting to grow up with this,

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Speaker 3: and I think that matters, like that's a big deal,

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Speaker 3: Like they've kind of been coached and know I'm a

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Speaker 3: high school football coach, Like I'm trying to tell these kids,

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Speaker 3: like you can't put something on there that if you

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Speaker 3: expect this not to live there, like it's gonna live forever.

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Speaker 3: I remember being at the draft a couple of years

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Speaker 3: ago with not a couple of years I'm getting old,

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Speaker 3: but like several years ago with Josh Allen and his

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Speaker 3: tweet pops up the day before the draft, and nobody's

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Speaker 3: talked about that in years, right, But it's something he

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Speaker 3: sent out and I think he was like fifteen years old.

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Speaker 3: And everything you know will stick with you, and so

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Speaker 3: they're definitely learnning those lessons.

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Speaker 1: You've got a new book out that won't quit. Kid,

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned that you're coaching high school football. Why

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Speaker 1: so I got a bunch of things that I want

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Speaker 1: to dive into here with you. But are younger than me.

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Speaker 1: But you were just talking about your son. I've got

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Speaker 1: three boys. A big part of the storyline of the

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Speaker 1: Trump election and we were just talking about the Trump

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Speaker 1: dance is young men, and I'm sure you see it

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Speaker 1: coaching them in high school football just feel profoundly alienated

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Speaker 1: from larger society. They're not graduating at the same levels

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Speaker 1: as women. They're not having the same levels of success.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think so many young men boys really

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Speaker 1: are struggling?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I think you know boys in their

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Speaker 3: Like we've talked about this for a long time, the

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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't quite grow up as fast as girls.

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Speaker 3: And I think you see that. But I think you

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Speaker 3: see a lot too. I'm around a bunch of these kids, man,

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Speaker 3: like a lot of them, they say, Collins, No, I

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Speaker 3: and learn on the job while I'm learning a trade.

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Speaker 3: And so I think you see a lot of that too.

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Speaker 3: A lot of kids now instead of you know, feeling

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Speaker 3: like back in the day we felt like we had

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Speaker 3: to go get education, like that was the next step,

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Speaker 3: that was a necessary step that your parents told you

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Speaker 3: you needed to take. And now I think that you're

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Speaker 3: seeing business can be run one hundred million percent without

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Speaker 3: a degree. And it's hard to keep them focused because

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Speaker 3: a lot of them care about sports and that's about it.

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Speaker 3: And you're like, well, you know, school comes with sports.

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Speaker 3: If you want to play sports long term, you got

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Speaker 3: to do your school work. So I think the ability

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Speaker 3: to go make a living pretty quickly out of high

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Speaker 3: school and be very successful without a degree is open

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Speaker 3: to them.

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Speaker 2: Now you mentioned how many kids, and I think it's huge.

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Speaker 1: It's why I fought so hard for schools not to

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Speaker 1: shut down boys in particular, but also a lot of girls.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk boys here for a sec A lot

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Speaker 1: of sports I always tell my kids, and I try

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Speaker 1: to tell I've coached youth league now for a lot

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Speaker 1: of those kids. A lot of my kids and other

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Speaker 1: kids try to teach them, hey, use the ball, don't

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Speaker 1: let the ball use you. And that's an important message

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Speaker 1: because a lot of guys out there, especially the more

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Speaker 1: talented they are, can get used up by the system

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Speaker 1: and not be able to get the benefit of their

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Speaker 1: athletic talent when they just focus on athletics.

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Speaker 2: How much of that have you've seen? And how do

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Speaker 2: you try to talk to your guys.

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Speaker 1: You had tremendous success, You're an All American College Football

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, went on first round draft pick, played

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Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Bengals. Football has been a lot to you.

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Speaker 1: But for most kids, that's not the pathway they're going

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Speaker 1: to have. How do you teach them that sports is

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Speaker 1: a path to future life success? Not for most of them,

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Speaker 1: what future life success is actually going to look like?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the whole point of Like, sport is

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Speaker 3: the greatest teacher. Like I me and my wife all

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Speaker 3: the time talk growing up with our kids, like how

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Speaker 3: do we create adversity, how do we make it a

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Speaker 3: little bit harder for them? We live in a great neighborhood,

873
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: we live in a great county. They don't struggle, And

874
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 3: so I think that's why I think sport is so important,

875
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: because these kids can struggle at something they can win,

876
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 3: they can lose. They can lose because of a teammate,

877
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: they can lose because of them, Like they can try

878
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 3: their harders and just not be good enough, Like these

879
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 3: are all lessons that we need in life, right, Like

880
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 3: we've got to face the facts at some point that

881
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 3: life is gonna be hard, Like life is gonna hit

882
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: us in the mouth sometimes, and it's gonna win, and

883
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: there's gonna be circumstances we can't control. Last night, at

884
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 3: the dinner table with my son, we're sitting there talking.

885
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: He's like, everybody uses chat GBT for their tests, and

886
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: we got a sub for the next couple of weeks,

887
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 3: and they just keep they just keep using it for

888
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: their tests and they're getting you know, ninety fives or hundreds,

889
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: and like I'm I'm not cheating and I'm getting an

890
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: eighty five. And we're like, okay, well, what do you

891
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: think about that. I'm like, well, I'd love to get

892
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: chat GBT on my phone. And I'm like no, no, no, no,

893
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: that's not the lesson we're trying to learn, buddy. He's like,

894
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: we're trying to teach you you got to do what's right,

895
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 3: you know, and and accept those things that you will

896
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: always get ahead if you do the things that are right.

897
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 3: So I think sports will show you, like you're not

898
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: always gonna be the best just because you work the hardest,

899
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 3: or because you tried real hard. I think you know

900
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 3: we're teaching I always want to teach. Mikey is like

901
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 3: you control your attitude and your effort. Like that's it.

902
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: Like we can't control whether we win, we can't control

903
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: whether we lose, but we can't control if we're going

904
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 3: to be a great teammate and try as hard as

905
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: we can and have a lot of joy while doing it.

906
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: And that's what I see, Clay, that really drives me nuts.

907
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 3: Across the country, some of these coaches, man, they rip

908
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 3: the joy out of youth league sports. Like these kids

909
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 3: are quitting at a higher rate because it's been It

910
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: hasn't been a kid's game for a while. They've been

911
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 3: playing a game that's been super hard since middle school,

912
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 3: and they've been so demanding and making them do this

913
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 3: and making them run all over the place and take

914
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 3: take car trips all over the place. When I think

915
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: if we can keep it fun and work as hard

916
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 3: as you can and have a good attitude, like I

917
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: think we'd have a lot more success with it.

918
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: I think that's important.

919
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,959
Speaker 1: We got a lot of dads and moms out there

920
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: that are driving all over the place, because their kids

921
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: are in club sports, whatever that sport may be. And

922
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: sometimes that can burn out not only the kid, but

923
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: also the parent because it's a lot of work to

924
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: be going all over the place instead of playing in

925
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: your neighborhood little league game. Suddenly you're traveling all over

926
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: the state. Some people are going all over the What

927
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: do you think's ideal. You're a pro athlete. How are

928
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: you raising your own kids when it comes to competing

929
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: and playing sports.

930
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: Well, one thing that I've seen is it really doesn't

931
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: matter what team you're on. Like I didn't have a

932
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 3: personal trainers, Like I didn't have a personal weightlifting coach.

933
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: I rode my bike around the neighborhood. God gave me

934
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: a big legs and big butt and a tenacity and

935
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: a want to do great and so like that was

936
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 3: the reason I went there. Like I'm with so many parents.

937
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: I was with one this morning, and they talk about scheduling.

938
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 3: They've got to go here and they've got to go there.

939
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, you don't have to be on that team, Like,

940
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 3: pick a team that fits your family schedule and what

941
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 3: you want. Like churches are non negotiable in our household,

942
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 3: Like we're going to go to church. So we're not

943
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 3: going to travel all over God's green Earth and mix

944
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 3: church because I want to show my kids that church

945
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 3: is more important sport, that is more important than sport.

946
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 3: And so for us, we found that we find a

947
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 3: lot of local tournaments. Are they as good, absolutely not.

948
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: But what we did was we just played up a

949
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 3: little bit, like if we wanted more competition, we played

950
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 3: up a couple of grade levels and it wasn't elite,

951
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 3: but we got beat and we played better competition. And

952
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: you know, my son and daughter are getting older now

953
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: and play There's plenty of things that I did wrong

954
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 3: that I would love to do better, and that's part

955
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: of the reason why I wrote the book. But I

956
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 3: think one of the things we did really well was

957
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: we don't have to travel all over the place. Like

958
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 3: you can find local places to enjoy it. You can

959
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: make it fun, like don't drag your kids to make

960
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: them practice. Like yes, encourage them and show up every

961
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: time that they ask you. But like if you're making

962
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 3: it and you're just deciding they need to do X,

963
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: Y and Z, like they're never going to adopt their

964
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 3: own journey. And I would argue when they adopt it

965
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: as their own journey and they want to do it

966
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: and they're asking you to do it. They're gonna have

967
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: more fun. And when they have more fun, I think

968
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: they have a better chance to be successful. That's what

969
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 3: I noticed when I got to Georgia. So many players

970
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: there that were ranked way higher than me, but they

971
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 3: were like this, I'm so tired of this crap. And

972
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, really, I'm like, we get to work out,

973
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 3: we get to practice, and I remember, you know, going

974
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 3: to practice in the in the mornings and we were

975
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 3: there like I remember Thanksgiving breaking. They're like, we don't

976
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: get to go home. I'm like, guys, we got nothing

977
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: else to do, Like we literally get to play football,

978
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 3: Like we get to do this. And so I think

979
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: sport has gone crazy because sport is a money maker.

980
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 3: Youth league sports is about making money. Travel ball is

981
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 3: about making money, and I think we keep buying into

982
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: that live that the team depends on where your kid's

983
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: future is, and that's not the truth.

984
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: Talking to David Pollock ESPN, He's been all over the place,

985
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: University of Georgia, Cincinnati, Bengal College Football Hall of Famer.

986
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: You mentioned the book encourage people to check it out

987
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: the Won't Quit Kid. You also have the Pollock Family

988
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: Foundation you run with your wife and kids. What should

989
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: people know about both those? The foundation and the book

990
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: here as we're Thanksgiving week, I imagine there's a lot

991
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: of messages that you want to get out through both.

992
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I think the book talks directly to what

993
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 3: we just talked about, and we talk about like kids

994
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: are quitting in a higher rate. It's sixty percent kids

995
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 3: that start sports when they're younger quit by thirteen. And

996
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 3: if we're gonna use those lessons man and build those

997
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 3: you know, there's the resilience inside of our kids, Like

998
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: we want them to play sports, and we want them

999
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 3: to go out there and challenge themselves and do hard

1000
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 3: things like so they can handle hard like Hart is

1001
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 3: coming for our kids. At some point, it's gonna get difficult.

1002
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: We can we can make it as easy as possible

1003
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 3: while they're with us, but at some point life's gonna

1004
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 3: hit them really hard. And I think that was the book.

1005
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: It's about a kid loves football man and wants to play,

1006
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: but he goes out there and it's it's hot, and

1007
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 3: it's hard, and it hurts, and that's what life's gonna

1008
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 3: be it's gonna hurt, and it's gonna it's gonna be hot,

1009
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard, and so teaching it how to approach, like, hey,

1010
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 3: let's just have a great practice today and have a

1011
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: good attitude and do the best you can. And so

1012
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 3: that's the premise of the book that I hope everybody

1013
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: gets from it when they read it. And then our foundation, Man,

1014
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: it's really been fun since since I've been since I

1015
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: got fired that that I've had so much more time.

1016
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 3: And you know, out of that came the Banquet of

1017
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 3: Blessings and we actually had a last night play. We

1018
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 3: served a thousand people in downtown Athens. It was so cool.

1019
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 3: We busting a bunch of the homeless from the shelters

1020
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 3: around and everybody came in and every single person got

1021
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 3: served at absolute cease, throw down, dessert, coffee, the whole nine.

1022
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 3: And then everybody that was there got to go through

1023
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 3: a line and they got a brand new coat and

1024
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 3: a scarf and mittens and gloves and socks and all

1025
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: like kid's books and they got hygiene packs and book

1026
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 3: backs for them, book backs for their kids. So it

1027
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: was just it's a cool thing. That we've seen with

1028
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 3: our community. Man, there's a lot of people out there

1029
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: that are in some bad spots, and we're trying to

1030
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 3: help out as much as we can because we know

1031
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: we're for one decision away from being in there. And

1032
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: so I think that's what we're trying to do in

1033
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: the Athens community is kind of meet a bunch of

1034
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: these kids and these families where they're at and try

1035
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 3: to help them.

1036
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: You just mentioned something there that I think is important.

1037
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: I've been fired several times. I imagine a lot of

1038
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: people out there have been fired as well. What was

1039
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: that like for you? And what you just said that

1040
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: there is a blessing sometimes that comes with being fired.

1041
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: I think it's an important message, particularly in Thanksgiving time

1042
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: where so many people are worried and you have a

1043
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: job and then you have that moment where suddenly you

1044
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 1: don't What was that like for you?

1045
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 3: I think the first reaction is always like oh my gosh, like,

1046
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: oh crap, what am I going to do next? And

1047
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 3: I think first reaction is usually kind of a fight,

1048
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 3: you know, a fight or flight mentality, and you figure

1049
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 3: out like what do I need to do? But the

1050
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 3: thing it's done for me is It's been really cool

1051
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: because you know, you kind of get on a bike

1052
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 3: in life and you just start riding, and then I

1053
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 3: think a lot of times you ride and you end

1054
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 3: up down the road, you know, twenty five minutes, and

1055
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: then twenty five minutes turns into twenty five years, you know,

1056
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: doing the same thing, and you kind of forget about

1057
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 3: the art of the possible. And that's what's been really

1058
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: cool to me. It's just a dream. Clay. If you'd

1059
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: have told me I was an author, I have slapped

1060
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 3: you in the face. I'd have been like, absolutely, God,

1061
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: I am not sitting down. I'm a dumb defensive player

1062
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 3: sitting down and concentrating enough to do that. And so

1063
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: that's been fun. And then speaking and just you know,

1064
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 3: coaching high school football, coaching. I coach girls harsh high

1065
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 3: school varsity basketball, like women's it's fantastic, it's unbelievable. And

1066
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: so I think what's cool is you get a chance

1067
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 3: to really assess when you get fired, what brings me joy,

1068
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: Like what really wakes me up man and excites me?

1069
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 3: And if you can find something like that, I think

1070
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 3: that's where that's where God wants you to be, Like,

1071
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: find those find those avenues in those areas that excite you.

1072
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: And sometimes it's not always going to be where the

1073
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 3: money is, and a lot of people are gonna look

1074
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 3: at that and that's not success. But but I would

1075
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 3: argue differently. Man, When you when you really feel good

1076
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 3: about what you do and you get to pay bills

1077
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 3: and you get to pursue something that you know fills

1078
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 3: your tank, I think it's really fun. And that's that's

1079
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: been a cool thing about.

1080
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: Now.

1081
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 3: I'm home all the time with my babies, plugget plublic,

1082
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 3: plugging in as much as possible and able to support them.

1083
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: Good stuff as always, man, I appreciate it. We need

1084
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Speaker 1: to talk longer sometime. The book won't quit, kid. Encourage

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Speaker 1: you to check it out David Pollock and keep doing

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Speaker 1: the good work with the Pollock Family Foundation as well.

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Speaker 1: And good luck to you and your family for this

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving week.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely thanks, thank you very much and happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Same to you, David Pollock. That enthusiasm contagious.

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Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls here as we roll

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Speaker 1: on eight hundred and two A two to eight A two.

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Speaker 1: But I want to tell you, God memories, it's Thanksgiving week.

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Speaker 1: How many of you out there have amazing memories about

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Speaker 1: spending time with your friends and your family for Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: old pictures.

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