1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Ronnian. That's the kind of stuff that makes order repair exciting. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: That's the kind of stuff that makes you sit there 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: and say, this is why you do it right, to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: do the impossible, but the teamwork and the camaraderie the 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: car Doctor. So let me ask you, this is the 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: pump completely dead and only dead as long as you 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: beat on the tank with a rubber malloted old pump. 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: But if you can stop the quick Welcome to the 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron Andanian the Car Doctor, since this 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturn to for their 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you 12 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: the garage to orders are open, but I am here 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: to take their calls at eight five six and now running, 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Oh is it is? It might turn to talk now, Ge, 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: that's just I'm glad. Let's let's wander over. Let's go 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: to talk to Alex in New Jersey seventeen PACIFICA and 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: that we're gonna talk about transmission fluid again, Alex. Welcome 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir, how can I help? Hey, Ron, 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: thank you for taking my call. Hey, uh, I called 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: two weeks ago, and I talked about how I had 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: problems getting a dealer to go and change the transition fluid. 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: And I called three dealers. UM, one of them transferred 24 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: he uh. When I called her partment, they transfer over 25 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: to a parspartment and they they figured out that I 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: need twenty four courts. Uh. They to do a flush 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: on the transition. And then they when they transfer over 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: the service. Uh, I got the phone hung over me 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: and then I called back and they just kept them 30 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: hang up the phone. This is very very strange. And 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: then I called an old dealer and they went and 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: told me it's uh uh they really do not recommend 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: change the transition fluid and um, it's a drop hand deal. 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: So the and the third deal just completely just refused 35 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: to do it. Ultimately, here I got a price for 36 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: a one change. It was like five nine dollars and 37 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: he told me that was the stipulation that we do 38 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: not want to do this oil change. This is really 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: on you. We don't want to do that. This is 40 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: a sill for life transition. Uh, there's nothing on this 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: UM transition as far as changing the filid is nothing 42 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: to be done here, and it is a it is 43 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: a filled for life and that's you know, it's such 44 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: an odd term, right, filled for life? Whose life? Is 45 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: it gonna last? Your lifetime? Is it gonna last the 46 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: life that you own? The vehicle is? You know? What 47 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: does filled for life mean? Now? The ZF fluid that 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: they're using in that, to my knowledge, is no different 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: than the fluid that they're using in a lot of 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: the highline BMW and Mercedes vehicles. And you know, tw 51 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: one of a thousand miles you're putting transmission in some 52 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: of those vehicles. So it's not that it's gonna last forever, 53 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: you know? Is it that these guys don't want to 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: change the fluid? I get why they don't want to 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: do the filter because the filter requires transmission removal to 56 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: get to it, all right, But do they want to 57 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: not do the fluid because it's a seventeen and they 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: haven't done any yet? Are they waiting for these to fail? 59 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: And you know, look at the track record and then 60 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: this and then and then decide, Uh, you know, I 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: don't get that. I think I would. You know, listen, 62 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: it's got a hundred thousand miles on it. If I remember, right, 63 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: Alec a little bit more than that now. But um, 64 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, I don't see a problem in doing a 65 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: fluid change. And are they saying that they're afraid to 66 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: change the fluid, that it's going to cause an issue. Uh, 67 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: they're saying that it's uh, it's just something that's just 68 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: totally not recommended. It's not prescribed by Chrysler, and therefore, uh, 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: it's just not to do it. I mean I asked 70 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: about severe service or anything like that, and they're just like, 71 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: it's just a fill for life, and they don't seem 72 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: to have their acting order in terms of one dealer 73 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: told me it was a drop hand. Uh. The others 74 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: tell deals ss me something else. And then there was 75 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: there were a couple of details I'm forgetting right now, 76 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: but uh, the two dealers were saying different things about 77 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: the same transmission about how to go services. Guy, I 78 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: don't know. They left on hold for a long time, 79 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: and uh, you're probably the first guy to call up 80 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: and and make their request. I actually called the Crysler 81 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: corporate and uh they I actually they said like I'm 82 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: going to research this for you. And I was on 83 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: hold for uh forty minutes and I had to hang 84 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: up at some point because like I have things to do. Uh, 85 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, that's where I'm at. So, I mean, you 86 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: would change the transition fluid, I would, you know, if 87 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm interested in longevity, You've got over a hundred thousand 88 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: miles on it, you know, I would look at the 89 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: color of the condition. I would also ask them, if 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: you're telling me it's it's filled for life, what happens 91 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: if the trans gets a leak, you know, and we 92 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: have to and we have to do fluid what We're 93 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: not going to change the fluid. We're not gonna We're 94 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: not gonna, you know, drain out what's in there. I 95 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: don't know that I would do a flush, but I 96 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: would definitely feel good about exchanging the fluid or draining 97 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: the fluid out and putting in fresh and maybe draining 98 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: it out again. And it's to me, it's a simple 99 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 1: drain and fill. And the refilled procedures a little difficult 100 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: because of the lack of a dipstick in in in 101 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: their hindsight. But you know, it's it's not the end 102 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: of the world, brother, It's it's fine to dealership that 103 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: wants to do it. See if you can maybe walk 104 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: in there with a you know, box of donuts and 105 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: a couple of cups of coffee, and and and talk 106 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: to the trans guy and say, you know, what are 107 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: you seeing? Are you seeing any failures? And you know 108 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: at what milege? You know you're trying to avoid I'll 109 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: leave it here. Let's let's leave it here, alex Um, 110 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: you're trying to avoid cancer before you get it. You 111 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: know the worst part about dealing with cancer, I think 112 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: is you know you don't wait till you get it 113 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: to do something, get better health habits, stop smoking. You 114 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: know the whole drill. Do trans do fluid maintenance not 115 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: just trans, but fluid maintenance in general on a vehicle 116 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: before the vehicle gets to the point where it needs 117 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: a component. And I think that's what you're trying to do. 118 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: And I know of no fluid again, what's lifetime to 119 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: find lifetime? Let's say you want to drive this car 120 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: to five hundred thousand miles. They're telling you that trans 121 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: is gonna last still five thousand miles with no fluid changes. 122 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: And if you want to put five or six hundred 123 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: bucks in it every couple of years and do a 124 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: fluid change, I don't see a problem with that. Just 125 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: make sure the shop that does it is qualified incompetent. 126 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: Let us know where you end up. Let's go over 127 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: and talk to Mackenzie, who's um looking to leave a dealer. 128 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: Look at this, a mechanic. I'm gonna be father Ron here. Yes, Mackenzie, 129 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: welcome a board, sir. How can I help? Hey, Ron, 130 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. You're welcome. Tell me your story, 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: my son. Ah. So, I'm a mechanic work at a 132 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: Hunters dealership in North Jersey. Um. I love working on cars, 133 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: you know, it's I've been there for nine years, my 134 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: only experience, you know, in the automotive field. And uh, 135 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: I just I don't like where the you know, everything's 136 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: going nowadays. Um, it seems like I'm spending more time 137 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: on a computer doing you know, stupid updates and stuff 138 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: like that. Then I am actually working on cars, and 139 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: it's it's taken away from the one and you know, 140 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: the want to continue. Um, so I'm torn. I have 141 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: a few options to go to smaller dealerships, not dealerships, 142 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: smaller shops, um, you know, private shops. But the money 143 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: is very good at the dealership. We're very busy dealership, 144 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: but it's just every year it seems like there's more 145 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: and more just complications computer. You know, everything's more computers 146 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: and everything else. And it's just, you know, I don't 147 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: want to be thirty forty fifty years old just sitting 148 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: there with a computer plugged into a car, not at 149 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: physically fixing something. You know. Well, I think the act 150 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: of a computer plugged into a car is a huge 151 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: part of the future of the business and I don't 152 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: think you're gonna get away from that regardless of where 153 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: you are, you know. I think that, and having seen 154 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: what dealers have become over the past fifteen twenty years, 155 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: you tend to be a name, I'm sorry, a number, 156 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: not a name. It's you've got to you've got to 157 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: produce X number of hours, you know, and tell me 158 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: where I'm wrong, um, because I want to know from 159 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: my own knowledge. But you tend to become a number. 160 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: You've got to produce X number of hours. You've got 161 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: to get this many p d I s or this 162 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: many free flashes or this many recall campaigns done. And 163 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: it tends to burn you out. It's repetitive work, you know. 164 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: And it's it's it's I get it. It's it's it's 165 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: it's a different kind of work. Independent repair shops tend 166 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: to see the problems when that car that's four is 167 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: four five years old, where the dealer tex sees that 168 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: car when it two to three years old. It's very 169 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: different types of repair work. Um. We had a customer 170 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: in New Customers. She came to us from another shop 171 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: that she had driving a ninety two Buick Park EV two. 172 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: Think about this a minute. And she was at another 173 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: repair shop that had been taking her money. And I 174 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: mean this guy was taking her money with a dump 175 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: truck and a bucket loader for the past fifteen years. 176 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: It seems, uh, you know, just spending all kinds of 177 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: crazy money on this car. And the last problem she 178 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: had was that the vehicle would stumble and hesitate install 179 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: in traffic. And his answer was he blamed it on 180 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: the throttle body fuel injection. That GM just build bad 181 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: throttle body fuel injections. And I said, you're telling me 182 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: General Motors, a company and a corporate giant of that magnitude, 183 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: created a vehicle that ran so bad for so long 184 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: that that's the reason and the rationale. She said, yeah, 185 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: that's what he kept tell me. I said, well, you know, 186 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't like to call anybody wrong or a liar 187 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: until I do some investigating. But I'll let you know 188 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: what I find. I took the car for a ride, 189 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, you know, Mackenzie, I I I sat in 190 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: that car. I experienced it. I said, the e g 191 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: R valves coming on too soon. This is what these 192 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: did back in the early nineties, all right. I put 193 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: I put a vacuum delay valve in the e g 194 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: R feed tube. The problem solved. She'd been living with 195 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: it for five years. And it's it's not that Ron smart. 196 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: That isn't what this is about. What it's about is 197 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: working into an independent shop. The dealer guy would never 198 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: see that, because that car would be gone before the 199 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: dealer guy would see it. And if you're looking for 200 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: that type of stuff that twenty years from now, you're 201 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: gonna remember what effect that the hands. And then yeah, 202 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: now you just got to find the right independent shop. 203 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: And they're out there, and you know it's it's listen, 204 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: if you like working on cars, you're never gonna work 205 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: a day in your life. You just got to find 206 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: the right cars to work on. You gotta find the 207 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: right environment, all right. You know, if you weren't working 208 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: on cars. What would you go do? And that becomes 209 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: a whole another you know scenario. Right? Do this? Are 210 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: you in North Jersey? Yeah? Do you do Garfield at all? Uh? Yeah? 211 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: I think it's about an hour from me. Okay, just 212 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: for giggles, call up Joe g Automotive. Talk to my 213 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: friend Joe Garna. All right, Joe's I think Joe's looking 214 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: for somebody. Joe's a real good, clean, up to date shop. 215 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: He's a straight shooter, all right. Joe and I talk 216 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: on occasion. He's you know, he'll he'll do computer flashing, 217 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: he'll do all the high tech stuff, but he'll do 218 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: all the nuts and bolt stuff too. Maybe that's where 219 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: you want to end up. All right, kid, see see 220 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: what that does for you? You need more? You know 221 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: where to find me? Yeah, definitely. You're very welcome. Good 222 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: lucky Mackenzie. Keep on truck. No, I understand, I understand completely, 223 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: all right, I gotta go be well. I'm ny in 224 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor zero nine zero. We're back right after this. 225 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: That's right. If you call and we're not live, you 226 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: can leave a message and we'll call you back to 227 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: get you on the air with Ron zero nine zero zero. 228 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: Speaking of Ron here he is. I know there's a 229 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: story in here somewhere. Um for a job we did 230 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: at the shop this week, and it was like a 231 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: tale of two cities, a tale of two cars and 232 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: two problems. We had a No. Five Chevy Malibu that 233 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: we were doing breaks on and the parking break cables 234 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: were sticking. And you know five they incorporated a mechanical 235 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: ratcheting caliper piston into the caliper that the cable would 236 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: pull on and spin it out and lock it, and 237 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: that that was the parking break. Now the cable was seized. 238 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: You could see where the sheathing had rubbed against the 239 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: subframe and created a hole that water got into overtime 240 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: and rusted the cable said it wasn't allowing it to 241 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: fully released, which prematurely wore the pads out, and you know, 242 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: the whole cabeba, the whole Michigans as we would say. 243 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: So we had a fine park break cables and you know, 244 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: to me, I remember this car when she bought it new, 245 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: but jeez, it's sixteen years old. Now all of a 246 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: sudden this you know, general motors, the cables have been 247 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: obsolete for three years. So we went out looking found 248 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: them at O'Reilly Otto, o'rileyoto dot Com Orloto Parts and 249 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: their their best buy or their best break Select Break 250 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: Best Break, Best Select Brand, Break Best Select Brand. They 251 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: had the cables there and we also found them Endormants, 252 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: so they're out there. They were out there in the aftermarket. Fortunately, 253 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: between Dormant and O'Reilly otto Parts, we were able to 254 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: get something together and make it work. And that's you know, 255 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: that's great. We found that and that's but that's not 256 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: the whole story. You know, we put it together. But 257 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: to put the cables in into this oh five Malibu, 258 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: the back seat had to come out, the carpeting had 259 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: to come out, the console had to come out. You 260 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: have to take apart half the car. And I don't 261 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: know I'm telling you this story because then the next 262 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: break job in the door the same day. It was 263 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: a two thousand sixteen mas the c X five, and 264 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: it was four wheel brakes. We did four wheel brakes, 265 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: but this has electric parking brake calipers, has a little 266 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: motor on the back of the brake caliper with a 267 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: ratcheting piston that spins it in and out as you 268 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: hit the button on. And also, if your car has 269 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: got electric parking brake, you've got an electric actuator on 270 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: the back of the caliper, and you know, we we 271 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: have to put the brakes in maintenance mode with a 272 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: scan tool. Of course, our hotel does that. We hook 273 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: the hotel up, put it in maintenance mode. Boom. Nice job. 274 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: They lay it out for you. They tell you what 275 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: they're doing and when and why and did the brakes 276 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: and then we take out our awtel and you know, 277 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: make it out of maintenance mode and we're good to go. 278 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: And now the break is dragging. The left rear, the 279 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: one that was metal on metal when it came in, 280 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: and I didn't think anything of it at first because 281 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: the right rear wasn't far behind, but it wasn't grinding, 282 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't metal on metal. Went and found a bulletin 283 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: from MAZA that talks about this exact problem that they're 284 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: having issues with their calipers on this generation vehicles fifteen 285 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: sixteen seventeens, C X five, c X nines under a 286 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: certain Vin production date, that they're having issues where the 287 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: internal portion of the caliper and or the actuator and 288 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: or both are creating binding issues causing the break to drag. Fortunately, 289 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: as we were facing Memorial Day weekend, the dealer had 290 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: the parts, They had an actuator, they had a caliber. 291 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: They come separately and they weren't bad. I think it 292 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: was a collective of three or three fifty dollars for 293 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: the one side worth of parts. I think the caliper 294 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: was two hundred and maybe it was three d caliper 295 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: was two hundred giver take, and the actuator was a hundred. 296 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: Of course, they didn't have the bolts in the gasket 297 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: kit that you need, which we had to get creative 298 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: to get the car out the door. Because the customer 299 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: needed the car and it was a it was a quicker, simpler, 300 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: cleaner repair. Right. We didn't take the interior apart. There 301 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: was no more cables, and I couldn't help but look 302 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: at this and think this is the future. It's gonna 303 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: be electronics. It's gonna be electrical, it's gonna be component replacement. 304 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: We're not gonna take interiors apart anymore. We're not gonna 305 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: have to crawl through and underneath and get down into 306 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: the belly of the vehicle. You're seeing the transition of 307 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: the automobile, go from mechanical nuts and bolts to throw 308 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: it away and just bolt a new piece on, providing 309 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: you can get the bolts from the dealer or the manufacturer, 310 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: whichever the case might be. And I don't know, I 311 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: just thought it was an interesting scenario that such an 312 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: extreme difference. All Right. It took Danny and I every 313 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: bit of three hours to gut the interior on this 314 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: Malibu and put it back together for these parking break cables. 315 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: And it took us every bit of forty five minutes 316 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: to do the mas that because it was just on off, 317 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, blee the caliper, hook the actuator up, boom, 318 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: You're done. And I'm gonna probably take that caliper and 319 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: the actuator apart one day during the week at the 320 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: shop and maybe do a little YouTube video, put some 321 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: up on Facebook, or add something to the YouTube channel, 322 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: which I haven't done in a long time. I've just 323 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: been so busy. My apologies, but just look at the 324 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: technology and look where it's going. UM. I can't decide 325 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: who paid more. I think the maths the repair cost 326 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: more because the cables were I don't know, hun fifty 327 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: dollars for the pair, but the actuator was double that. 328 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: So yeah, that the mass that was the higher repair, 329 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: but it was easier on the mechanic. Maybe that's a 330 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: good things. So just look at the technology. Sometimes it's 331 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: not so bad. You gotta embrace it. Hey, coming up next, 332 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: good old Uncle Steve. Boy, I can tell you a 333 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: thousand stories about him, but we're gonna let him do 334 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: the talking here as we look back memories of Uncle 335 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: Steve Memorial Day. What could be better? Coming up next? 336 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: Right here on the car doctor, I'm ron Ananian. Don't 337 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 1: go away. Welcome back to the car doctor ron Ananian here. 338 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: You know, this next segment really doesn't have a lot 339 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: to do with cars. It's Memorial Day weekend and when 340 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: we can, as we're allowed, we try to sneak out 341 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: and talk to Uncle Steve, Stephen and Nanny and he's 342 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: my uncle. Um. It's always a pleasure to talk to him. 343 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't get to talk to him as much during 344 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: the course of the year, so this is a different 345 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: kind of a long distance phone call. And it's always 346 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: fun to have Uncle Steve here in ninety one years young. 347 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: As we talked to him about Memorial Day, World War two, 348 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: and um things maybe not so car related, Uncle Steve, 349 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: welcome back, Welcome to the car doctor, sir, We love you. 350 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: How are you doing all right? Um? Here we are 351 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: Memorial Day? Is it? Well? You know, blame that on mom. 352 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: Mom says ninety one. Well I'm nine and a half actually, 353 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: now is that what it is? Well, let me ask 354 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: you this. At ninety and a half or ninety one, 355 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: if they called you up when you could fit in 356 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: the plane, would you go, oh, sure, I slew in 357 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: eight six last year? Were you flying or just taking 358 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: the rod? But I was sitting in the back seat. 359 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: I flew it for a while. Yeah, don't tell anybody, right, Well, 360 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: well I had a stuck that in front, So it's okay, 361 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: You're okay. It was legal? Yeah, right, Um, But you know, 362 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: ninety and a half or not. You were nineteen when 363 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: you enlisted, when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, and you 364 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: knew what you had to do. And we've talked about 365 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: it here on the show, and you know, we've talked 366 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: about some of the other things with regards to the 367 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: story that you had written. Ramrod to Munster, Can you 368 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: can you just hit the high points for the listeners 369 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: real quick. Well, that was my first missage and uh 370 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: we were escorting the Obamas to Munster and escorting bombers 371 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: is called Ramrod missions. So on the way, I was 372 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: flying over Holland on Hell they gold Land actually and 373 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: that's the German west point for anti ana graft gunners. 374 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: And I got hit by one anti aircraft gun and 375 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: I was hitting the super charge of the aircraft and 376 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: I uh uh flew my airplane, losing airplane uh losing 377 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: oil for about forty five minutes until I finally had 378 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: a bail out over the North Sea. And at that 379 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: time there was gair warnings over the North was seventy 380 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: five winds and uh ten ft waves and so but 381 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: I have bailed out and it wasn't a water for 382 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: an hour and a half and I was rescued by 383 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: a British Air se rescue flying boat and uh uh 384 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: I got back naturally and I flew sixty three missions 385 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: after that. Did you hesitate going up the second time? 386 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: Uncle Stephen? From from what I remember, they offered you 387 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: a couple of days off leave up in London, and 388 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: you said, heck, no, I want to go. That's right. 389 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: I uh, I went. I went the very nice mission 390 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: that they flew. So uh no I uh I. I 391 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: was afraid when I flew, but as a fair my 392 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: fear was not of getting killed, but I was afraid 393 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: I screw up. I mean, this is what every pilot did. 394 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: I mean, you you had to respect what the enemy 395 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: had to offer. But we knew we were better than time, 396 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: so there was no big aggrevation on that mark. When 397 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: we were we had men who were uh on leave 398 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: on D Day and they rushed back to fly one 399 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: of them. Three We flew three missions on D Day 400 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: and these men who were on leaving London rushed back 401 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: and got put back and flew the last mission of 402 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: the day just to be able to do it. Yeah, 403 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: when you were up in the air and you you 404 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: soil pressures dropping and you were at I forget the 405 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: number twenty five thousand feet thirty thousand feet, how did 406 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: you happen to have the clarity of mind to rock 407 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 1: the plane to splash oil up on the engine as 408 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: it was losing oil pressure. I mean, what just what 409 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: came over you? Well? Once once you I was hit, 410 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't uh you know, uh disoriented or 411 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: anything I knew what was happening. I knew that I 412 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: was loosing I was trying to figure out what was wrong, 413 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: and uh, I figured I was hit by in a supercharger, 414 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: which meant that at lower alta tours, I might have 415 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: enough power to maintain flight, which I did. When I 416 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: got down to seven thousand feet my air my aircraft, 417 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: I had enough foil to sustain flight. I was, but 418 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: I was losing oil, and in order to cool the engine, 419 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: I figured, that's that all that oil is in the 420 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: stump of the engine, you know, So I just took 421 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: the plane violently. They splashed the oil from the stump 422 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: up on the cylinder the walls. The M E two 423 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: sixty two, Uncle Steve, one of the German jets, the 424 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: German jet. Yeah, you were, you were you You shot 425 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: down a German jet in combat and that was that 426 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: was really unprecedented then in terms of, you know, the 427 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: differences between the planes. The M two sixty two was 428 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: obviously faster, but you figured it out. I mean, how 429 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: did you take you know, what mechanical advantage do you 430 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: think the P fifty one had over the two sixty 431 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: two that enabled you to do that? Or you know, 432 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: are you gonna sit here and tell me it was 433 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: just a lucky shot. The thing is run that both 434 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: the PIFT one and the m AT six too were 435 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: limited to the top speed by the speed of sound. 436 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: We had not broken the sound barrier at that time 437 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: him so the fastest they could fly was about six 438 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour, which is the fastest that we 439 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: could if we could, but we didn't have the power. 440 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: The P fifty one flew four hundred seventy five an 441 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: hour top speed straight level, and so when they dive, 442 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: we could fly five hour. In fact, the aircraft was 443 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: a red line not to fire the guns at that speed. 444 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: So even though they had a speed advantage, we had 445 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: a maneuver very advantage. The three fifty one was a 446 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: highly maneuverable aircraft and we could out maneuver the Amy 447 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: two six too, so that was our advantage over them. 448 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: D D time you were shot down over Stuttgart, can 449 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: you talk about that real quick? I mean, what was 450 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: what was doing for? There was a tank bangle battle 451 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: going on at the ground and we were uh supporting 452 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: our ground tanks and uh I was hit by American 453 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: tank I think, and my in the carburettor and I 454 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: lost power and I crashed landed in a deserted field, 455 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: and there were German were marched on the other side 456 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: of the field. And I had ran off into the 457 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: woods after I set my airplane on fire, and uh 458 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: I shot a fire flare into the cockpit and I 459 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: ran off into the woods and I heard hid behind 460 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: some bushes and uh I was able to evade capture 461 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: and I UH woke up. I actually I fell asleep 462 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: in the shrubbery and I woke up when it was dark, 463 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: and UH I walked in the dark toward the American lines, 464 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: and I was able to evade capture. Stuttgard isn't exactly 465 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: around the corner are from American lines, Uncle Steve. I 466 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: mean it had to be a hundred miles. Now, well, 467 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly recall the distance, but yeah, it was. 468 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: It took me three days, three nights, and you hit 469 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: out by day and traveled at night. Yeah. I woke 470 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: up one morning and UH in a field that I 471 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: was sleeping in and I could hear some UH French 472 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: being spoken. And I stood up and there was a 473 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: French farmer talked to UH talking to a American soldier 474 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: and I raised my hands and I said, uh, just 475 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: for the American And I was taken to UH Paris, 476 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: which was headquarters at the time, and uh I was 477 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: interrogated because at that time there were German UH Americans 478 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: speaking English speaking Germans. We're posing as American soldiers and 479 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: their their their job was to try to assassinate Dwight Eisenhower, 480 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: who is a general at the time. Right, Uncle Steve, 481 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: stay put, We're gonna put you into a second segment, 482 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: if that's all right. I know, I know, we promised 483 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: you only one, but we gotta hold you over. It's 484 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: it's just too much fun talking to you and it's 485 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: just too interesting. Um, stay where you are. Mornini and 486 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: the car Doctor will be back right after this. Welcome back, 487 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: Nani and the car Doctor here with Uncle Steven Aye 488 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: and Stephen Nanian, First Lieutenant Steven Nanian three thirty ninth 489 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: Fighter Group, the five or five Party Group, the eight 490 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: there of Force World War two is we always we 491 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: try to get a hold of Uncle Steve a Memorial 492 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: Day and talk to him about them some of the 493 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: things that happened during the course of the war, not 494 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: really automotive mechanical related, but just just a fun time. 495 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: Uncle Steve, How are you You're You're still there, sir, 496 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm still there. You know, I can't imagine walking three 497 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: days home from Stuttgard, Germany at night, but I guess 498 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: that was the time, right. You did what you had 499 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: to do to survive, and it just never became right. Yeah, 500 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure, Um, I'm sure, although you know you say 501 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: it now like it's so nonchalant, but back then, to 502 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: walk out of Stuttguard, Germany back to French lines is 503 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: no is no simple task. The the the final flight. 504 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: And I love this story when you tell it. If 505 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: I remember correctly, V Day and everybody was grounded, but 506 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: you still went up, didn't you. Yes, and we're ready. 507 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: Everybody was grounded. We we were able to fly uh 508 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: training missions and so forth over England itself. But you 509 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: were just you just wanted to go for one last 510 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: ride in that plane before they sent you home. That's true. 511 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: And do you remember anything specifically about it? Oh? Yeah, 512 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: Well I was scheduled to leave the base about twelve 513 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: o'clock noon to catch fly up to Scotland to catch 514 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: a boat back for the United States, And so I 515 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: got up about six o'clock in the morning, and after well, 516 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: we all woke up that early, and uh, I spoke 517 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: to the commanding officer, my squadron commander, and I said, so, 518 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to take the airplane up for one last 519 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: time with your permission, and he said, sure, go ahead, 520 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: he said, but just don't fool around. He says, I 521 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: don't want any problems, you know. And my wingman at 522 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: Tom Marvel, he said, I'd like to fly with him. 523 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: So we both took off and we flew. I had 524 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: never flown over Paris, France, because Paris was an open city. 525 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: So we flew to France. And when I got over Paris, 526 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: I flew along with Schanza. He say, was my wingman 527 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 1: flying my wing about fifty ft off the ground and 528 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: all the people were waving at us, and we were 529 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: just smiling and laughing and uh. And then we turned 530 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the shans E liz as the 531 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: Pallid the Shioh and I made a left turn and 532 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: there's the Eiffel Tower. We headed towards the Eiffel Tower 533 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: buzz dot and then flew back to London. Now, during 534 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: the war, you can fly over London because of the 535 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: barrage balloons. But on V Day that barrage balloons were down. 536 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: So we flew over to file the square very low 537 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: and spiraled upwards over low Nelson's statue and climbed up 538 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: to twenty thousand feet, came back, and we came back 539 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: and landed. While we landed by commanding officers, Jeep Rouge 540 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: roaring up to my airplane and he jumped out and 541 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: he says, what the hell you've been doing? I said, 542 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: what's the matter, sir? He says, the phone has been 543 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: ringing off the hook about these red and white checked 544 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: nose uh P forty seven buzzing all over France. And 545 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: the I said that wasn't ue? I said, were f 546 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: ft one? He says, Bologney. He said, you can you 547 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: know that those Civilliams don't know a P fifty one 548 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: from a P forty seven. But still I went to 549 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: this eight six and you're going to Scotland. So that 550 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: was it, and that was it. Hey, real quick, uncle 551 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: Steve Um, you know you name the plane baby Mine? 552 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 1: Thirty seconds or less? Had you come up with that name? Uh? 553 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: The Walt Disney's motion picture? H no, no, no, no, 554 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't want that version in it. And he and 555 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: that picture that that was the famous song, and that 556 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: song used to go run through my head when I 557 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: was flying. You have away, Uncle Steve. That's the that's 558 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: the family version. Wasn't there a story about when the 559 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: girls and the bars in London would ask you, did 560 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: you name your plane after me? And what did you 561 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: tell them? That's right? I'd say, I name that after you, baby, 562 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 1: and they looked at me and they all come on, 563 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: I think I have a picture of my airplane and 564 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: they believed it and said it was baby mine. Uncle. 565 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: Uncle Steve is always It's a pleasure to talk to you. 566 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing you in June. And um, 567 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: we've got to go right now. I really want to 568 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: say thanks for taking the time, and um, it's just 569 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: a whole lot of fun to talk to you. I love. 570 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: Did I say one thing? Sure? I just want to 571 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: synkle all these people in the service for protective to 572 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: us and giving us the freedom that way, Judge and 573 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: were our prayers with all these people. Thank you, Thank you, 574 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: Uncle Steve. We'll see you soon. I'm running any of 575 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor. We're back right after this. Such a 576 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: hard act to follow, such a You know, what can 577 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: I say about Uncle Steve? Right, it's so good to 578 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: hear him, even though it's on tape. I wish he 579 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: was really here. Um. You know, I always think whenever 580 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: I hear his voice, I go back twenty years. There's 581 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: so many Uncle Steve stories I could tell you. It 582 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: was about twenty years ago. I was doing a TV 583 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: show and the radio show and running the shop, and 584 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: in the midst of buying a new building and moving 585 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: the shop and trying to have a life somewhere in 586 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: the middle. And I was overwhelmed, you know, I was 587 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: right to the top. And who else would I call 588 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: but Uncle Steve. I just had to get it sorted 589 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: out in my brain. Right, We're all human, we all 590 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: go through this. And I think this is probably the 591 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: most fitting poignant memory I've got of him, in that 592 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: I called him up and, you know, complaining about what 593 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: was going on and on my god, Uncle Steve, how 594 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: am I gonna make all this work? And what can 595 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: I do? And he very calmly said over the phone, 596 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: he said, you're an ananium. You can do anything. He said, Remember, 597 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: nobody's shooting at you. Just don't go shooting back at 598 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: a buff your butt, go do something. He said, you 599 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: can do this, and you know what, he was right, 600 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: and that was that generation and all the generations that 601 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: have come on since. It's been great being with you 602 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: this week. I love each and every one of you. 603 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: Have a great Memorial Day weekend. Remember what it's all 604 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: about until the next time. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 605 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: See you