WEBVTT - Things Making Us Happy Now: Fall Edition EP 429

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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist,

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<v Speaker 2>and speaker.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm Sarah Hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician,

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<v Speaker 3>writer and course creator. We are two working parents who

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<v Speaker 3>love our careers and our families.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>how real women manage work, family, and time for fun.

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<v Speaker 2>From figuring out childcare to mapping out long.

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<v Speaker 1>Term career goals.

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<v Speaker 2>We want you to get the most out of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode is airing in late October of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be one of our What's making

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<v Speaker 2>Us Happy Now sort of an all love of the

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<v Speaker 2>Week episode. We're calling this What's Making Us Happy Now

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<v Speaker 2>Fall edition, so just as a little thing that are

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<v Speaker 2>bringing us joy in this particular season. But we know

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<v Speaker 2>that we both come across as reasonably upbeat on this

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<v Speaker 2>podcast by design. That's one of the things we hope

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<v Speaker 2>to bring to you as you are commuting to work,

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<v Speaker 2>as some you know, fun to listen to. However, our

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<v Speaker 2>lives are not universally that way. We have both had

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<v Speaker 2>some recent stretches of feeling a bit low. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>that cannot really be talked about. Will apologize for the

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<v Speaker 2>vague podcasting here was it called like vague booking?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that the old word for Facebook, Sarah?

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<v Speaker 2>So it'd be like vague, vague casting, vague blogging, vague blogging.

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<v Speaker 1>But when that happens, like Sarah, what do you do

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<v Speaker 1>when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are in a chronic bad mood to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>yourself continuing forward?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I do lots of things, but sometimes I

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<v Speaker 3>like to just wallow in it. I mean there can

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<v Speaker 3>be some value in that, not on the podcasting, Mike,

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<v Speaker 3>but just in life. And that is sort of just

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<v Speaker 3>like letting you feel the feelings and maybe indulge yourself

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<v Speaker 3>in like the music that is like sad and like Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this afternoon, I'm just gonna sit on the couch and

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<v Speaker 3>eat some chocolate or whatever, you know, So that sometimes helps.

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<v Speaker 3>And then one thing I read about that I think

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<v Speaker 3>I do, but I didn't have this cute term for

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<v Speaker 3>it is like having lily pads, but like focusing on

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<v Speaker 3>things in the future that are going to be different

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<v Speaker 3>or fun. I know I do a lot of that

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<v Speaker 3>when I am doing one of my call weeks and

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<v Speaker 3>call is not It's not like about being down in

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<v Speaker 3>the dumps.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just more difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a week at a stretch where I'm working more

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<v Speaker 3>hours than I would prefer to do any job and

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<v Speaker 3>can be interrupted at any time. And again I've come

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<v Speaker 3>to just understand, like, I appreciate that that is part

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<v Speaker 3>of what I do and accept it for the time being,

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<v Speaker 3>but I definitely need to focus forward to get myself

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<v Speaker 3>through and think about like one of the fun things

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get to do when I'm done. And actually, on

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<v Speaker 3>my past call week, I think around day four, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I am booking a pedicure and I'm booking a massage.

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<v Speaker 3>And I actually booked the pedicure for my last day

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<v Speaker 3>of call because I knew I could do it all

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<v Speaker 3>my way home, and that's something I can do while

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<v Speaker 3>on call because I can answer the phone while I'm

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<v Speaker 3>getting my toes done. Not as easy while you're getting

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<v Speaker 3>your hands done, but your toes, yes, say.

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<v Speaker 2>The massage wouldn't work like if you're supposed to text

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<v Speaker 2>back within a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, correct.

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<v Speaker 3>So I booked the massage for the week after call,

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<v Speaker 3>so i'd have that to look forward to because I

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<v Speaker 3>have to have my phone off during that to enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>the experience, and I can't do that on call.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, absolutely, yeah, No, I like to plan in

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<v Speaker 2>fun stuff too. I mean I got my daughter to

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<v Speaker 2>go apple picking with me, even if no other kids

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to. I was like, I really want to do this,

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<v Speaker 2>so I like promised to trade off. I would bring

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<v Speaker 2>her to Brandy Melville and she would go apple picking

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<v Speaker 2>with me. You know, just getting outside for fresh air

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<v Speaker 2>is always helpful, going for a walk or something, going

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<v Speaker 2>to bed, because sometimes things look better in the morning

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<v Speaker 2>reading a magazine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I enjoyed doing that on my hammock

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<v Speaker 1>when it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's in the evening and I'm not going anywhere else,

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<v Speaker 2>I might have a nice craft beer. It's always a

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<v Speaker 2>feel a little bit better moment as well, exactly. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is a list of things that we are enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Love of the week for fall. So Sarah,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it might be better if we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>interspersed with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Our notes are back and forth, sort of pasted after

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<v Speaker 2>each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But nobody wants to listen to me talk for fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you have all right? You want me

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<v Speaker 1>to kick it off? Well, the first thing kit I

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<v Speaker 1>have on there. Oh my gosh, this is a very

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<v Speaker 1>nail nail centric episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about my pedicure, Well, I ordered a flash many system,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning one of those manicure systems. It has a light

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<v Speaker 3>so that when you polish your nails, you put your

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<v Speaker 3>hands under the light and it quote cures it. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of controversy over which lights are safe and

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<v Speaker 3>which are okay. And one of the ingredients in these

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<v Speaker 3>types of manicures has actually been banned in the European

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<v Speaker 3>Union and that was kind of like all over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>Right after one of my kids, well it was Anabel,

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<v Speaker 3>right after my daughter had purchased a kind of I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know branded gel manny system. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, let me resource this a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>And I found a few brands, which are they have

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<v Speaker 3>ingredients that are approved in the EU, so at least

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<v Speaker 3>they've passed.

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<v Speaker 1>Some sort of bar.

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<v Speaker 3>And again I don't know how toxic these ingredients truly are,

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<v Speaker 3>but also manicures are very optional, so like, why not

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<v Speaker 3>pick the one that perhaps is vetted a little bit more?

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<v Speaker 1>So I ordered it one called Manicurist.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no affiliation whatsoever, but I'm like really pleased

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<v Speaker 3>with I was pleased with how the toxic one work too,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way. I was like, Wow, this is magic

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<v Speaker 3>if I can do this in my house. But the

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<v Speaker 3>less toxic or at least supposedly less toxic version from

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<v Speaker 3>this other brand, seem to work just as well. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>my daughter did not like it just as well because

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<v Speaker 3>it looks more like a regular manicure, like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sick gel look.

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<v Speaker 3>But it did set in one minute after applying it

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<v Speaker 3>when you follow all the steps, and so I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>mess it up, and it's going a week now and

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<v Speaker 3>it looks really good. So yes, that is my long

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<v Speaker 3>winded fun love right now, which is the Manicurist Green

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<v Speaker 3>Flash many System interesting my llac nails.

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<v Speaker 1>I like nails. They look very nice. They look nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't keep polish on my nails, so I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even bother, which probably says to me a reasonable

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time, although you know it's a never I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. My daughter and I have never gone do

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<v Speaker 2>like Manny or Petties things together. Maybe that's something she'll

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<v Speaker 2>be writing a book about later about how I never did.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh well, so I don't have a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>of indulgences.

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<v Speaker 1>In that category, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>But one thing I do I spent a ridiculous amount

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<v Speaker 2>of money on is Ellmis Creams. So this brand, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, there was like a freebie. There was one

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<v Speaker 2>in the Allure of beauty Box, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You started with the beauty Box totally.

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<v Speaker 2>My daughter is pretty much completely taken over now, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was still getting some of it then.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I have this.

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<v Speaker 2>The day cream is the Marine cream, I guess, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the evening one. The night one is this pillow mask.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a pillow pep tie, whatever it's called. So

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<v Speaker 2>you put that on at night, put the Marine cream

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<v Speaker 2>SPF one on during the day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just, you know, it feels very indulgent. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>makes my skin better. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of psychological stuff with this, I am sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>But who cares? It's fun. It's fun. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's making me happy right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And it'd be nice to simplify to like one brand

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<v Speaker 3>that you enjoy and then just kind of like don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, actually this weekend, I pulled everything off my counter

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<v Speaker 2>and out of the basket that was on my bathroom

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<v Speaker 2>shelf except the stuff that I use every single day,

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<v Speaker 2>and so other stuff is now in the cupboard. And

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<v Speaker 2>I threw out a lot of trash and expired stuff too.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's goods.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I use four like makeup products during the day,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have two creams, and then I have my

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<v Speaker 2>my Nexium, so my contact lens stuff. Yeah, my toothpaste.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess of face wash, but yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. It's minimalist, it's functional, it works.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and it's fun to have a lot less clutter.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, so have Sarah, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Next on my list. These are really not in any order,

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<v Speaker 1>but who cares? My sticker printer? Oh my gosh, so

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<v Speaker 1>I ordered.

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<v Speaker 3>I did some research on various planning sites, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 3>because I used to have the Kodak Step, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a sticker printer that printed on zinc photo sensitive paper,

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<v Speaker 3>and I used it to you can use a phone

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<v Speaker 3>app and print out little pictures and I would put

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<v Speaker 3>them in my five year journal and they look good.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't look great. They're a little greeny.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're fading a little bit with time, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I gotta and it stopped working, the app

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<v Speaker 3>stop syncing with my phone entirely.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried resetting, I tried all kinds of things. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I give up.

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<v Speaker 3>So I decided to look for what's out now and

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<v Speaker 3>came across a different kind of category of printers that

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<v Speaker 3>instead of using this photo sensitive paper, they actually use

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<v Speaker 3>actual ink. So it's like a little, tiny little printer

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<v Speaker 3>in a box that has these little ink cartridge is

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<v Speaker 3>like inkjet or something. And I chose the Cannon Selfie.

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<v Speaker 3>It is so much better. It's so much sharper and crisper.

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<v Speaker 3>The app is easy to use. I can print like

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<v Speaker 3>little seasonal collages of what's going on. I could even

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<v Speaker 3>print like book titles, so I could do like little

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<v Speaker 3>stickers with like a book cover my planner if I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to track reading in a fun visual way. I

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<v Speaker 3>love my sticker printer. It just brings me a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of joy. And yeah, I chose the it's the Kenon

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<v Speaker 3>Selfie QX twenty. I believe it's the one I have excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is the time of year when many of

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<v Speaker 2>us start ordering our twenty twenty six planners our planners.

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<v Speaker 1>For the next year, whatever that happens to be. So

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<v Speaker 1>I recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Indulged in buying the plumb paper notes and Days for

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six. I definitely do not use all the planners' functionality,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't use the calendar in it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>use the daily to do list thing in it. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a regular notebook that I just do for my

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<v Speaker 2>daily to do list, and I use a different calendar.

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<v Speaker 2>But that said, I like opening a new page every

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<v Speaker 2>week and making my weekly priority list in the planner,

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<v Speaker 2>and I enjoy the cover. I almost never have the

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<v Speaker 2>cover even visible anymore, like on the desk. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's folded over to whatever week it is, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see the cover. But I have fun with

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<v Speaker 2>the art on the cover, and it has a nice

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<v Speaker 2>LV for twenty twenty six for it, So it's it's mine.

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<v Speaker 2>It came in the mail recently.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of ritual in like ordering that next

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<v Speaker 3>year's planner, and you know, why not get into it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many great options out there. You can find

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<v Speaker 3>a planner to suit almost any of your preferences. You

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<v Speaker 3>love that layout of the days on the left and

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<v Speaker 3>then like a blank page on the right. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>excited for you to have your next generation of plannets.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Well we're gonna take a quick ad

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<v Speaker 2>break and then we'll be back with more of things

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<v Speaker 2>we are loving now. All right, well we are back

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<v Speaker 2>talking in all Love of the Week episode our fall edition. Sarah,

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<v Speaker 2>what else is on your loves of the Week list

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<v Speaker 2>right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So I am enjoying pilates, which was kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>goal of mine to figure out I don't know, in

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<v Speaker 3>addition to the strength training that I already do at home,

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<v Speaker 3>just another exercise outlet that's different from my prior running days.

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<v Speaker 3>And honestly, I thought about trying pilates even then, but

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<v Speaker 3>now I have a lot more time to do it

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<v Speaker 3>since I'm not running, and so I chose the studio

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<v Speaker 3>closest to my house, which turned out to be Club Pilates,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can get there in like seven minutes and

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<v Speaker 3>it's nice, it's relaxing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I.

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<v Speaker 3>Will enjoy it even more once I go up a

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<v Speaker 3>level so that it will become a little bit more challenging.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just like having a place to go. I

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<v Speaker 3>like the instructors, I like the vibe, and I like

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<v Speaker 3>that it fits into my schedule on the days that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't drive at tend to go to classes, and

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<v Speaker 3>I can just kind of like have mornings that are

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<v Speaker 3>more focused on me versus the other three mornings of

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<v Speaker 3>the week are focused on the kids, which both are great,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's nice to have both.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean, move up a level? So there's

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<v Speaker 1>different levels of lunch for Pilates.

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<v Speaker 3>Club Pilates has like I mean, this is just specific

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<v Speaker 3>to that franchise, but like they have level one level

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<v Speaker 3>one point five to and you don't get to decide,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I can't just be like I'm I have to

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<v Speaker 3>ask for permission to at least that's how it works

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<v Speaker 3>at our studio to like move up a level. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm planning on asking before I book my You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're recording this in September, the end of September, but

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully by the time you're hearing this, I've been granted

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<v Speaker 3>my permission because I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>On the next level exactly. Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the kids gym where to get to start

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<v Speaker 2>to do parkour two versus park worps.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's like that. Yeah, it's like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, in the hobby realm for me, I am

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying singing in a second choir. So longtime listeners know,

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<v Speaker 2>I join my church choir about eight years ago, right

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<v Speaker 2>around the same time that this podcast started, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've enjoyed that immensely. But I decided last year

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<v Speaker 2>to start singing with another choir that meets in downtown

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<v Speaker 2>Philadelphia and is doing you know, they sang the back

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<v Speaker 2>me Bine our Mass, which is why I originally joined,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've enjoyed the other stuff they've done too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit more challenging, I would say.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are doing the Howls Requiem as part of

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<v Speaker 2>our next concert, which will have happened by the time

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<v Speaker 2>you were listening to this. But you know, I sang

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<v Speaker 2>that with my church's chamber choir eight years ago. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a fun, little full circle moment where I sing

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<v Speaker 2>the same pieces with different choirs and I get to

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<v Speaker 2>feel like a seasoned choral musician, even though it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of ridiculous to be spending two evenings a week on

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<v Speaker 2>choral music.

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<v Speaker 1>Not if you like.

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<v Speaker 2>It, it is not easy to fit it in.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just put it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a lot of evenings for my interest, but

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<v Speaker 2>it will it's not every we don't meet during the

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<v Speaker 2>summer for either choir.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say it's probably seasonal. It's seasonal.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the Downtown Choir actually takes significant chunks of

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<v Speaker 2>time off, like they do a concert cycle that's like

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<v Speaker 2>five weeks, and then take a week or two off

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<v Speaker 2>and then do another one, and then we take all

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<v Speaker 2>of January off, so it's not as many rehearsals per

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<v Speaker 2>year as one might imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I like it. It's like your sport. It's my sport. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my sport for sure. All right, what do you have, Sarah?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? This one? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>I said the Apple redesign. Apple came up with a

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<v Speaker 3>new operating system, number twenty six. I just did the upgrade.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, it's pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure it's pretty. I like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a little busy. Actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Upon further reflection, however, I love that they have now

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<v Speaker 3>added an app called Preview, which does what was already

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<v Speaker 3>doable in Apple Notes, but I think it does it

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<v Speaker 3>even more elegantly. Because we love having the feature where

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<v Speaker 3>you can just scan documents straight on your phone and

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<v Speaker 3>then email them or a up wherever you need to go.

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<v Speaker 3>And I used it in Apple Notes, but I found

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<v Speaker 3>it clunky that I couldn't just like scan my document

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<v Speaker 3>not within the notes ecosystem, Like what if I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>need it in Apple Notes and then I have to

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<v Speaker 3>like pull it off of notes or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think this is fanas past.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know about the whole esthetic clear glass

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<v Speaker 3>situation and the flashes when I'm texting. If you have upgraded,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do like previews.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well that is good, Well, thank Apple for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go totally non tech and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to say botanical gardens in the fall. So many people

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<v Speaker 2>think of botanical gardens as a spring thing and that

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<v Speaker 2>is when peak crowds will come, but many also have

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<v Speaker 2>a season for the fall because there are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fall blooming flowers. It turns out that this is

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<v Speaker 2>an evolutionary strategy that some number of beautiful flowers employ,

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<v Speaker 2>and the upside of fall flowers is that the backdrop

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<v Speaker 2>against the fall flowers is also more colorful, so you

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<v Speaker 2>have these interesting juxtapositions of like yellow flowers with orange

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<v Speaker 2>trees behind them and purple asters with yellow oaks behind them,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you get these different dift color combinations that

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<v Speaker 2>you just don't in spring, where the back color is

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<v Speaker 2>all mostly green.

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<v Speaker 1>So I find that esthetically fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would heartily encourage people, if they have botanical

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<v Speaker 2>gardens near them, to go visit. Some close for winter,

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<v Speaker 2>but they often are still open into the fall. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been going to Chanticleer, which is about twenty minutes from

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<v Speaker 2>my house, so that can be a long lunch if

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<v Speaker 2>I wish it to be. And then I went to

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<v Speaker 2>Longwood Gardens the weekend before we recorded this. That was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun to walk around there. See there

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<v Speaker 2>are lily pads, Sarah, speaking of lily pads, things to

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<v Speaker 2>look forward to.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a whole display of lily pads. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we went.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw it when we were there in July. I

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<v Speaker 3>love those lily pads. I mean, don't miss those lily pads.

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<v Speaker 1>They're pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>It turns out lily pads can get quite large, and

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<v Speaker 2>so you could definitely envision yourself leaping from lily pad

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<v Speaker 2>to lily pad as you are trying to get through

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<v Speaker 2>a low moment in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you're in the Philadelphia area, check out Longwood Gardens.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>My next one is not really seasonal, but who cares?

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<v Speaker 3>Ice cream Fridays We've just designated Friday. My kids always

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<v Speaker 3>ask me of ice cream, and like, we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>ice cream every night. Partly I don't want to stalk

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<v Speaker 3>the house without much ice.

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<v Speaker 1>Cream like all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>But Fridays is like ice cream night, and then we

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<v Speaker 3>can look forward to it and make sure we have

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<v Speaker 3>fun ice cream at home, different bars that people like,

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<v Speaker 3>different flavors, whatever, or every once in a bloom moon,

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<v Speaker 3>won't go out to Dairy Queen or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just like the concept.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying we would never have ice cream on

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<v Speaker 3>any other night, but I'd like looking forward to it

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<v Speaker 3>on Fridays.

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<v Speaker 1>Would we were at the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>We have our favorite ice cream place at the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>We went basically every night while we were there.

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<v Speaker 1>Ice cream today, ice cream Tuesdays. Yes, I know, well

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<v Speaker 1>we won't.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we would never go out for ice cream otherwise,

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<v Speaker 2>like and most people don't even eat it here, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We don't really buy it here, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like a fun beach treat. We like, indulge

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<v Speaker 2>in ice cream for two straight weeks and then let

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<v Speaker 2>it gets it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they would probably really associate the taste and experience

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<v Speaker 3>of ice cream with going to the Bees.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it's really like good ice cream, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's ice cream parlor ice cream and not just random

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<v Speaker 2>discount FROs grocery brand that I might be buying. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to it's sort of a similar category.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean to say, food that you have personally procured. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I am not like in any way one of those

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<v Speaker 2>people writing their parenting essays about how if you grow

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<v Speaker 2>your own veggies your kids will eat them. There is

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<v Speaker 2>no overlap between veggies grown personally and kids being more

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<v Speaker 2>willing to eat said veggies. In my house, however, I

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<v Speaker 2>have enjoyed some food that we have personally procured. So

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<v Speaker 2>Ruth and I went to Soulbury Orchards, which is another

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<v Speaker 2>nice Philadelphia area place. It's up in Bucks County and

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<v Speaker 2>is less of a zoo than some other pick your

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<v Speaker 2>own farms around here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to mention them. But you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed a.

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<v Speaker 2>Slightly more tame experience Soulburry Richard's, so I'll throw that

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<v Speaker 2>out there. And we bought huge numbers of honey crisp apples.

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<v Speaker 2>Honey crisps are my favorite. You have to time that

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<v Speaker 2>to certain weekends of September basically to kill them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think of apple picking as a truly fall

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<v Speaker 2>like October activity, there are only certain varieties that are

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<v Speaker 2>available then my favorite are all available in September, so

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<v Speaker 2>we have to make sure if we go, we go then.

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<v Speaker 2>But we got a ton, so we've been eating those.

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<v Speaker 2>We had apple sauce, We've got pies just I've been

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<v Speaker 2>cutting up basically two of them a day and feeding

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<v Speaker 2>myself and the kids slices of apples with every meal.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have a freezer full of salmon and halibate.

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<v Speaker 2>Because my husband and fifteen year old went to Alaska

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<v Speaker 2>for a week this summer. They went on a commercial

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<v Speaker 2>fishing boat. I guess not really. It was sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like a yeah, there's this guided fish shing deep sea

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<v Speaker 2>fishing thing, and they had their Alaska fishing licenses and

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<v Speaker 2>hauled in all this halibut and salmon which they brought

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<v Speaker 2>back frozen to our house.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have been eating it.

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<v Speaker 3>And with like zero discussion. We had like the same

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<v Speaker 3>thing happened the same weekend. Yeah, we were in the

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<v Speaker 3>keys and Josh like and his friend did a fishing

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<v Speaker 3>charter but there's no salmon or halibut in the keys,

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<v Speaker 3>but they did. They didn't catch fish and it's still

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<v Speaker 3>in my freezer. So catching what I don't remember what

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<v Speaker 3>it was, but it was large. Cameron got the like prize.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a great picture, like it's huge, and we

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<v Speaker 3>did eat it. Actually they had a thing where you

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<v Speaker 3>could eat it at the restaurant at the resort, like

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<v Speaker 3>they'd cook it for you. We ate like two thirds

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<v Speaker 3>of it together and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it was really good. Yeah, so it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>We have the photos of course of my husband and

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<v Speaker 2>son holding fish right on the boat. And was showing

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<v Speaker 2>this to someone in my life who who is single,

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<v Speaker 2>and she mentioned that on dating apps, like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the photos guys are with.

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<v Speaker 1>Gigantic fish or whatever. Apparently it's like, is that a

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<v Speaker 1>metaphor for dating? Is the way like I will provide

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<v Speaker 1>for you? Look, I can fight a fish. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was more like there's more fish in the sea,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think it's.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also one of the few times that men actually

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<v Speaker 2>get their photo take it. Like men aren't walking around

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<v Speaker 2>be like take my photo for Instagram or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's there's not that many photos. That's kind of sweet

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<v Speaker 2>men would have, but they do. That's what they put

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<v Speaker 2>up on the dating app. So great, good to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and well tomatoes too. We've grew a lot of tomatoes.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not a huge fan of tomatoes regularly, but

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<v Speaker 2>the ones we grow when they're fresh off the vine there,

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<v Speaker 2>they're pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, big shout out to uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a dinner with our own salmon, sliced honey, crisp, apples,

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<v Speaker 2>and tomatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know it's all personally procured.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we're gonna take one more quick ad break,

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<v Speaker 2>then we will be back with more loves of the week.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we're back. I think I really only have

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<v Speaker 3>one more big one. Yeah, and it's another food one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Well, I just really love going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Trader Joe's in late September or mid October, so as

0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 3>you're airing this is still in effect and buying everything

0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.040
<v Speaker 3>pumpkin and just like making a joke out of it

0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 3>and then just serving a lunch that's like random pumpkin items.

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<v Speaker 3>Some my kids really enjoy it too, So if you

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<v Speaker 3>haven't tried it, I recommend.

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<v Speaker 2>Call it the pumpkin challenge. What like, what is the

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<v Speaker 2>randomness of the pumpkin items?

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<v Speaker 3>Pumpkin samosas, pumpkin hummus, pumpkin salsa, pumpkin chips, pumpkin cookies,

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<v Speaker 3>pumpkin like, It's just like they have everything pumpkin pumpkin pasta, like,

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<v Speaker 3>even things that like really didn't need to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Pumpkin they have. Nobody asked pumpkin cereal. It's like nobody

0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:55.680
<v Speaker 1>how about pumpkin cereals? Says t Days. But it's humorous

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<v Speaker 1>and fun and it's now an annual ritual.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, So well, the time is that I gotta have

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of october Fest craft beer, since that's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on my things that I love that I have not

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<v Speaker 2>done it to work because I actually don't really like

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<v Speaker 2>most of the sort of like pumpkinny or october Fest

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<v Speaker 2>related beers, and I'm not going to drink two beers,

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<v Speaker 2>so like you know, I'm foregoing one that I would

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<v Speaker 2>like in order to have one that I don't necessarily like.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe I could have like two SIPs. Maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 2>find somebody else to likes to share it with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, so I guess related, but a folish

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<v Speaker 2>kind of version. I've been roasting veggies. This has been

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<v Speaker 2>my goal is to do this on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>We're recording this on a Monday, and I didn't yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did the past two Sundays. Yesterday we made

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<v Speaker 2>a pie and did some other stuff, so there's already

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of baking involved.

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<v Speaker 1>So I never got around to this.

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<v Speaker 2>But I chop up various veggies, brush them with olive

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<v Speaker 2>oil and salt them, bake them at four hundred degrees

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<v Speaker 2>for thirty minutes or so.

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<v Speaker 1>They come out slightly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know about you, but I like my

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<v Speaker 2>veggies to be slightly sweeter. So if you have oil

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 2>and salt in the slightly sweet, you've got that combo

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 2>of sweet salt fat. That is, in fact, what people

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 2>like to eat. It's why like caramel corn is so attractive.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is yeah veggie version of this. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you can make veggies into things that feel like a

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<v Speaker 2>good snack food.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I feel like you're already winning.

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<v Speaker 2>And totally I don't do so many, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>enough that I can have it as like a side

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<v Speaker 2>dish on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday, and so I figure,

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<v Speaker 2>that's at least some more veggies in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>Right delicious sounds good, makes me want to eat them

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<v Speaker 3>right now. My last one's a little meta, which is

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:46.440
<v Speaker 3>just that it's the time of year when we can

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:49.440
<v Speaker 3>already start thinking about like Thanksgiving and the holidays, Like

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 3>it's not crazy to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be planning that.

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<v Speaker 3>I booked a lot of our ski stuff now, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just, yeah, it's anticipation and not like what we're

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<v Speaker 3>actually doing.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's joy in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, no, I mean I've we're definitely thinking

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<v Speaker 2>through the holidays. We already booked our big trip for

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 2>the holidays, but we're thinking of adding another one possibly

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 2>for some people, and you know, been pondering Thanksgiving and stuff.

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 2>It's so, you know, at the end of the year

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<v Speaker 2>is always a good celebratory time and I'm enjoying thinking

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 2>about what am I still doing this year, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you get to start thinking about the next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know as I bought the new planner. What

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<v Speaker 1>are what are my goals going to be for twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six? Sarah, I don't know. I'm going to find

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<v Speaker 1>out in just a couple of weeks from this airing

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<v Speaker 1>at Bestly Planing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true because I will have been forced to

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<v Speaker 2>record this our goals for twenty twenty six episodes, so

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<v Speaker 2>stay tuned for that, all right. So this week's question

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 2>comes from something that could be a big win but

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 2>sometimes is occasionally not so. The listener says, I have

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<v Speaker 2>been setting up carpools or set up a carpool to

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 2>save time, but the back and forth via texts and

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:57.679
<v Speaker 2>people switching or having to cancel feels like it is

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<v Speaker 2>creating a lot of extra mental load for something that

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to make my life easier. Are there smarter

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<v Speaker 2>ways to do this or carpool best practices to make

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<v Speaker 2>it not feel like an addedvert in?

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah, what do you have? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean some of this has to do with the

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 3>culture of your carpool, Like we had a fantastic one

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 3>last year, and I think it was just sort of

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<v Speaker 3>understood that, like you don't cancel, yeah, just don't mess

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 3>it up. Like if your kid is sick, you're still

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:24.880
<v Speaker 3>driving the other two kids and like it'll all turn

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 3>or you you might ask for the occasional swap, but

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:29.280
<v Speaker 3>in general, you just sort of like stay in your lane.

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<v Speaker 3>And we did it by day, so that would just

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 3>kept it really really simple. Like we always drove Tuesdays

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:35.119
<v Speaker 3>and then there was like a Monday drive and a

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 3>Thursday drive. We didn't have to think about anything on

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<v Speaker 3>Monday and Thursday, and we did everything on Tuesdays and

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<v Speaker 3>we just owned that day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that kept it simple.

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<v Speaker 3>We did have a What's up chat so that we

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<v Speaker 3>could communicate like hey, I'm here or whatever. But I

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<v Speaker 3>do think some of it is just like between the lines,

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 3>like talking to people like this is going to be

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<v Speaker 3>like a serious.

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<v Speaker 2>Carpool, right, Like this is not an amateur level carpool, because.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be really frustrating for like over and over again, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>actually I can't do it this week, I can't do

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.440
<v Speaker 3>it that week. Like pick a day that you can

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:08.880
<v Speaker 3>commit to, and hopefully that can work for everyone because

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 3>you being consistent with your Tuesday means other people can

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.400
<v Speaker 3>consistently know they have their Tuesday not to worry about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember many years ago we did a carpool for

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 2>middle school with Jasper and some neighbors and he started

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 2>doing this before school choir two mornings a week, and

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<v Speaker 2>I still came back and drove the two other kids

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<v Speaker 2>on the weeks that it was my week to do

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the whole week because we did it by week.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would carpool with you anytime.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Sarah, there are many reasons that you and

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 2>I have a podcast that has lasted eight years.

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna skip, not gonna track it out of

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 1>carpel do.

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>It just because like there was a plausible reason not

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>to do it.

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 3>So I guess that is a lesson, like choose your partner,

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:53.639
<v Speaker 3>Like maybe you get to know people a little bit

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 3>before you decide who you want to carpool with and

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 3>make sure that your intentions are aligned.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely so, Yes, choosing reliable carpool partners. And I

0:28:06.440 --> 0:28:10.640
<v Speaker 2>actually interviewed a gentleman from my other podcast, which may

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:13.160
<v Speaker 2>have run by this point or will soon, Paul Leonardi,

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 2>who's the author of Digital Exhaustion, and he talked some

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 2>about this topic as well. I mean, I rememberbody I was,

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, he was mentioning this because I was like,

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, I just heard this question as well.

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 2>But his wife got a text from a friend who

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.360
<v Speaker 2>said that her carpool had resulted in eighty three texts

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 2>on their chain that week.

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot.

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of TEA had it muted, but but.

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>He went back and counted. Okay, get back.

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 2>And counted, and there were eighty three texts, And I'm like, wow,

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 2>that is yeah. I mean, at that point, yes, I

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 2>don't believe the carpool is necessarily saving you any time

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>or mental effort. So so choose well, one thing to

0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>do instead of trying to arrange it digitally. If there

0:28:57.040 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 2>is a situation where you are all in person, like

0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>if you're all there at the first game or first practice,

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 2>doing that back and forth in person to set it

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 2>out and to figure out what works might be more helpful,

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 2>even just because the in person interaction is going to

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>be more pleasant than back and forth via text. And

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 2>if there is any sort of situation where things will

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>be changed again, it helps if there is a time

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 2>you are all getting together, so for instance, if you

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>all see each other at games, that is when you

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 2>discuss any of the changes that would need to happen

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 2>to the carpool schedule as opposed to like a digital

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:33.239
<v Speaker 2>back and forth, and so that sort of reduces it.

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 2>And you know you are seeing each other, then you

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 2>don't all go to the practices that might be a

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 2>way to make it not feel like this tedious thing.

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 2>It's more like you're just having a conversation with your

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>fellow parents along the side, and you know you can

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 2>conclude things instead of.

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was going to say that actually what you

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 3>were saying, and I'm going to love this interview. I

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 3>have a feeling because I, you know, think we are

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 3>digitally exhausted sometimes, but like to carpool, if you work

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 3>in something where you're like taking turns being in charge,

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 3>like a call schedule, I actually think that would so

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 3>benefit from being a personal discussion rather than everyone's emailing,

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 3>texting back and forth, maybe sending stuff to one person.

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 3>They're supposed to put everything together. No, get everyone in

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 3>a room, go through the calendar and be like, who

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 3>wants this week? Who wants this week? And yeah, they're

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 3>fifty two weeks and I'll take a while, but then

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 3>you're done for the year. Or maybe you just do

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 3>it by quarter, you do twelve weeks, and I think

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 3>that would be so much quicker than trying to synthesize

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 3>everybody's I can't do that, but I can't do that

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 3>and whatever, and then no one's surprised by anything. So

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 3>this is my vision for how I think calls should

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 3>be figured out in my division.

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>And it won't probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Happen because I'm not in charge of making the schedule,

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 3>but my fantasy, I'll keep communicating it and maybe someday

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 3>we'll try it.

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, so we're best practices here is we

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 2>are going to choose the right carpool partners. Yeah, we

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 2>are going to just own times, whether that's owning a

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>day or owning a week, so there's no uncertainty of

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 2>who is doing it. The ethos is that you don't

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>cancel unless you absolutely absolutely have to. The logistics are

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 2>ideally arranged in person. Yes, So it's a pleasant conversation

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to fifty techts back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it, love it all right.

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't have an extra love of the week

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>this time because this has been an all love of

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 2>the Week episode, but we would love to hear from

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 2>you if you have tips on making a carpool run. Well,

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 2>you can make that happen.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>And if you have another Love of the Week, we'd

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>love to hear that too. Yeah, send us your Fall favorites.

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, this has been best of both worlds. We've

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>been discussing our all Love of the Week Fall edition.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be back next week with more on making

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<v Speaker 2>work and life fit together.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com

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<v Speaker 3>or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please

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<v Speaker 2>join us next time for more on making work and

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<v Speaker 2>life work together.