1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Hi. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: and speaker. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 3: And I'm Sarah Hart Hunger, a mother of three, practicing physician, 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: writer and course creator. We are two working parents who 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: love our careers and our families. 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: how real women manage work, family, and time for fun. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: From figuring out childcare to mapping out long. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Term career goals. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: We want you to get the most out of life. 12 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. This is Laura. 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: This episode is airing in late October of twenty twenty five. 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 2: This is going to be one of our What's making 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: Us Happy Now sort of an all love of the 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: Week episode. We're calling this What's Making Us Happy Now 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: Fall edition, so just as a little thing that are 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: bringing us joy in this particular season. But we know 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: that we both come across as reasonably upbeat on this 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 2: podcast by design. That's one of the things we hope 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: to bring to you as you are commuting to work, 22 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: as some you know, fun to listen to. However, our 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: lives are not universally that way. We have both had 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: some recent stretches of feeling a bit low. Some of 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: that cannot really be talked about. Will apologize for the 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: vague podcasting here was it called like vague booking? 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: Was that the old word for Facebook, Sarah? 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: So it'd be like vague, vague casting, vague blogging, vague blogging. 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: But when that happens, like Sarah, what do you do 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: when you. 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: Are in a chronic bad mood to try to get 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: yourself continuing forward? 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: I mean I do lots of things, but sometimes I 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: like to just wallow in it. I mean there can 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 3: be some value in that, not on the podcasting, Mike, 36 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: but just in life. And that is sort of just 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: like letting you feel the feelings and maybe indulge yourself 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: in like the music that is like sad and like Okay, 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: this afternoon, I'm just gonna sit on the couch and 40 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: eat some chocolate or whatever, you know, So that sometimes helps. 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: And then one thing I read about that I think 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: I do, but I didn't have this cute term for 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: it is like having lily pads, but like focusing on 44 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 3: things in the future that are going to be different 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 3: or fun. I know I do a lot of that 46 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: when I am doing one of my call weeks and 47 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: call is not It's not like about being down in 48 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: the dumps. 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: It's just more difficult. 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: It's a week at a stretch where I'm working more 51 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: hours than I would prefer to do any job and 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 3: can be interrupted at any time. And again I've come 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: to just understand, like, I appreciate that that is part 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: of what I do and accept it for the time being, 55 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 3: but I definitely need to focus forward to get myself 56 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 3: through and think about like one of the fun things 57 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: I'll get to do when I'm done. And actually, on 58 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: my past call week, I think around day four, I'm like, 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: I am booking a pedicure and I'm booking a massage. 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: And I actually booked the pedicure for my last day 61 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: of call because I knew I could do it all 62 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: my way home, and that's something I can do while 63 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: on call because I can answer the phone while I'm 64 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: getting my toes done. Not as easy while you're getting 65 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: your hands done, but your toes, yes, say. 66 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: The massage wouldn't work like if you're supposed to text 67 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: back within a few minutes. 68 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, correct. 69 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: So I booked the massage for the week after call, 70 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: so i'd have that to look forward to because I 71 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: have to have my phone off during that to enjoy 72 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 3: the experience, and I can't do that on call. 73 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely, yeah, No, I like to plan in 74 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: fun stuff too. I mean I got my daughter to 75 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: go apple picking with me, even if no other kids 76 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: wanted to. I was like, I really want to do this, 77 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: so I like promised to trade off. I would bring 78 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: her to Brandy Melville and she would go apple picking 79 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: with me. You know, just getting outside for fresh air 80 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: is always helpful, going for a walk or something, going 81 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: to bed, because sometimes things look better in the morning 82 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: reading a magazine. 83 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I enjoyed doing that on my hammock 84 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: when it's possible. 85 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: If it's in the evening and I'm not going anywhere else, 86 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: I might have a nice craft beer. It's always a 87 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: feel a little bit better moment as well, exactly. But 88 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: this is a list of things that we are enjoying 89 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: right now. Love of the week for fall. So Sarah, 90 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: I thought it might be better if we kind of 91 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: interspersed with each other. 92 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we kind of. 93 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: Our notes are back and forth, sort of pasted after 94 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: each other. 95 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: But nobody wants to listen to me talk for fifteen minutes. 96 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: So what do you have all right? You want me 97 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: to kick it off? Well, the first thing kit I 98 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: have on there. Oh my gosh, this is a very 99 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: nail nail centric episode. 100 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: Talking about my pedicure, Well, I ordered a flash many system, 101 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: meaning one of those manicure systems. It has a light 102 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: so that when you polish your nails, you put your 103 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: hands under the light and it quote cures it. There's 104 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: a lot of controversy over which lights are safe and 105 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 3: which are okay. And one of the ingredients in these 106 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 3: types of manicures has actually been banned in the European 107 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: Union and that was kind of like all over the place. 108 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: Right after one of my kids, well it was Anabel, 109 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 3: right after my daughter had purchased a kind of I 110 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: don't know branded gel manny system. So I was like, 111 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: you know what, let me resource this a little bit. 112 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: And I found a few brands, which are they have 113 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 3: ingredients that are approved in the EU, so at least 114 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: they've passed. 115 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: Some sort of bar. 116 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: And again I don't know how toxic these ingredients truly are, 117 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 3: but also manicures are very optional, so like, why not 118 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: pick the one that perhaps is vetted a little bit more? 119 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: So I ordered it one called Manicurist. 120 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: I have no affiliation whatsoever, but I'm like really pleased 121 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: with I was pleased with how the toxic one work too, 122 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: by the way. I was like, Wow, this is magic 123 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: if I can do this in my house. But the 124 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: less toxic or at least supposedly less toxic version from 125 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: this other brand, seem to work just as well. Now, 126 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: my daughter did not like it just as well because 127 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: it looks more like a regular manicure, like it doesn't 128 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: have that. 129 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: Sick gel look. 130 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 3: But it did set in one minute after applying it 131 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: when you follow all the steps, and so I didn't 132 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: mess it up, and it's going a week now and 133 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: it looks really good. So yes, that is my long 134 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: winded fun love right now, which is the Manicurist Green 135 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: Flash many System interesting my llac nails. 136 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: I like nails. They look very nice. They look nice. 137 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't keep polish on my nails, so I 138 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: don't even bother, which probably says to me a reasonable 139 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 2: amount of time, although you know it's a never I 140 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 2: don't know. My daughter and I have never gone do 141 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: like Manny or Petties things together. Maybe that's something she'll 142 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 2: be writing a book about later about how I never did. 143 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: But oh well, so I don't have a whole lot 144 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: of indulgences. 145 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: In that category, I guess. 146 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: But one thing I do I spent a ridiculous amount 147 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: of money on is Ellmis Creams. So this brand, I 148 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: don't know, there was like a freebie. There was one 149 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: in the Allure of beauty Box, but. 150 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: You started with the beauty Box totally. 151 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: My daughter is pretty much completely taken over now, but 152 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: I was still getting some of it then. 153 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: And so I have this. 154 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: The day cream is the Marine cream, I guess, and 155 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: then the evening one. The night one is this pillow mask. 156 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 2: It's like a pillow pep tie, whatever it's called. So 157 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: you put that on at night, put the Marine cream 158 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: SPF one on during the day. 159 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it feels very indulgent. Maybe it 160 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: makes my skin better. I don't know. 161 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: There's a lot of psychological stuff with this, I am sure, 162 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: but who cares? 163 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: But who cares? It's fun. It's fun. I like it. 164 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: That's making me happy right now. 165 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: And it'd be nice to simplify to like one brand 166 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: that you enjoy and then just kind of like don't 167 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: have to think. 168 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually this weekend, I pulled everything off my counter 169 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: and out of the basket that was on my bathroom 170 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: shelf except the stuff that I use every single day, 171 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: and so other stuff is now in the cupboard. And 172 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: I threw out a lot of trash and expired stuff too. 173 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: But it's goods. 174 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: Like I use four like makeup products during the day, 175 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: and I have two creams, and then I have my 176 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: my Nexium, so my contact lens stuff. Yeah, my toothpaste. 177 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: I guess of face wash, but yeah, that's it. 178 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: I like it. It's minimalist, it's functional, it works. 179 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and it's fun to have a lot less clutter. 180 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: All right, Well, so have Sarah, all right? 181 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: Next on my list. These are really not in any order, 182 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: but who cares? My sticker printer? Oh my gosh, so 183 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: I ordered. 184 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: I did some research on various planning sites, et cetera, 185 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: because I used to have the Kodak Step, which is 186 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: a sticker printer that printed on zinc photo sensitive paper, 187 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: and I used it to you can use a phone 188 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: app and print out little pictures and I would put 189 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: them in my five year journal and they look good. 190 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: They don't look great. They're a little greeny. 191 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 3: I think they're fading a little bit with time, and 192 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, I gotta and it stopped working, the app 193 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 3: stop syncing with my phone entirely. 194 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: I tried resetting, I tried all kinds of things. I 195 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: was like, I give up. 196 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: So I decided to look for what's out now and 197 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: came across a different kind of category of printers that 198 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: instead of using this photo sensitive paper, they actually use 199 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: actual ink. So it's like a little, tiny little printer 200 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: in a box that has these little ink cartridge is 201 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: like inkjet or something. And I chose the Cannon Selfie. 202 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: It is so much better. It's so much sharper and crisper. 203 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: The app is easy to use. I can print like 204 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: little seasonal collages of what's going on. I could even 205 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: print like book titles, so I could do like little 206 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: stickers with like a book cover my planner if I 207 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: wanted to track reading in a fun visual way. I 208 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: love my sticker printer. It just brings me a lot 209 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: of joy. And yeah, I chose the it's the Kenon 210 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: Selfie QX twenty. I believe it's the one I have excellent. 211 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: Well, this is the time of year when many of 212 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: us start ordering our twenty twenty six planners our planners. 213 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: For the next year, whatever that happens to be. So 214 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: I recently. 215 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: Indulged in buying the plumb paper notes and Days for 216 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. I definitely do not use all the planners' functionality, 217 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: like I don't use the calendar in it. I don't 218 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: use the daily to do list thing in it. I 219 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: have a regular notebook that I just do for my 220 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: daily to do list, and I use a different calendar. 221 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: But that said, I like opening a new page every 222 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: week and making my weekly priority list in the planner, 223 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: and I enjoy the cover. I almost never have the 224 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: cover even visible anymore, like on the desk. You know, 225 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: it's folded over to whatever week it is, and so 226 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: I don't see the cover. But I have fun with 227 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: the art on the cover, and it has a nice 228 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: LV for twenty twenty six for it, So it's it's mine. 229 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: It came in the mail recently. 230 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: I love it. 231 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: There's a lot of ritual in like ordering that next 232 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: year's planner, and you know, why not get into it. 233 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: There's so many great options out there. You can find 234 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: a planner to suit almost any of your preferences. You 235 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: love that layout of the days on the left and 236 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: then like a blank page on the right. So I'm 237 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: excited for you to have your next generation of plannets. 238 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well we're gonna take a quick ad 239 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: break and then we'll be back with more of things 240 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: we are loving now. All right, well we are back 241 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: talking in all Love of the Week episode our fall edition. Sarah, 242 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: what else is on your loves of the Week list 243 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: right now? 244 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: Yeah? 245 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: So I am enjoying pilates, which was kind of a 246 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: goal of mine to figure out I don't know, in 247 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: addition to the strength training that I already do at home, 248 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: just another exercise outlet that's different from my prior running days. 249 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: And honestly, I thought about trying pilates even then, but 250 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: now I have a lot more time to do it 251 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 3: since I'm not running, and so I chose the studio 252 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: closest to my house, which turned out to be Club Pilates, 253 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 3: and I can get there in like seven minutes and 254 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 3: it's nice, it's relaxing. 255 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: I think I. 256 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: Will enjoy it even more once I go up a 257 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: level so that it will become a little bit more challenging. 258 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: But I just like having a place to go. I 259 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: like the instructors, I like the vibe, and I like 260 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: that it fits into my schedule on the days that 261 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: I don't drive at tend to go to classes, and 262 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: I can just kind of like have mornings that are 263 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: more focused on me versus the other three mornings of 264 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 3: the week are focused on the kids, which both are great, 265 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 3: but it's nice to have both. 266 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: What do you mean, move up a level? So there's 267 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: different levels of lunch for Pilates. 268 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: Club Pilates has like I mean, this is just specific 269 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: to that franchise, but like they have level one level 270 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: one point five to and you don't get to decide, 271 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: Like I can't just be like I'm I have to 272 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: ask for permission to at least that's how it works 273 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: at our studio to like move up a level. So 274 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: I'm planning on asking before I book my You know, 275 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: we're recording this in September, the end of September, but 276 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 3: hopefully by the time you're hearing this, I've been granted 277 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: my permission because I'm. 278 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: On the next level exactly. Oh my gosh. 279 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: It's like the kids gym where to get to start 280 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 2: to do parkour two versus park worps. 281 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Yes, it's like that. Yeah, it's like that. 282 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, in the hobby realm for me, I am 283 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: enjoying singing in a second choir. So longtime listeners know, 284 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: I join my church choir about eight years ago, right 285 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: around the same time that this podcast started, in fact, 286 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: and I've enjoyed that immensely. But I decided last year 287 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: to start singing with another choir that meets in downtown 288 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: Philadelphia and is doing you know, they sang the back 289 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: me Bine our Mass, which is why I originally joined, 290 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: but I've enjoyed the other stuff they've done too. 291 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: It's a little bit more challenging, I would say. 292 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: And we are doing the Howls Requiem as part of 293 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: our next concert, which will have happened by the time 294 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: you were listening to this. But you know, I sang 295 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: that with my church's chamber choir eight years ago. So 296 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: it's a fun, little full circle moment where I sing 297 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: the same pieces with different choirs and I get to 298 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: feel like a seasoned choral musician, even though it's kind 299 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: of ridiculous to be spending two evenings a week on 300 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: choral music. 301 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Not if you like. 302 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: It, it is not easy to fit it in. 303 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: Let's just put it that way. 304 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: It is a lot of evenings for my interest, but 305 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: it will it's not every we don't meet during the 306 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: summer for either choir. 307 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: I was gonna say it's probably seasonal. It's seasonal. 308 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: And then the Downtown Choir actually takes significant chunks of 309 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: time off, like they do a concert cycle that's like 310 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: five weeks, and then take a week or two off 311 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 2: and then do another one, and then we take all 312 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: of January off, so it's not as many rehearsals per 313 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: year as one might imagine. 314 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: Well, I like it. It's like your sport. It's my sport. Yeah, absolutely, 315 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: it's my sport for sure. All right, what do you have, Sarah? 316 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: All right? This one? Okay? 317 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: I said the Apple redesign. Apple came up with a 318 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: new operating system, number twenty six. I just did the upgrade. 319 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: I said, it's pretty. 320 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's pretty. I like, I don't know. 321 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a little busy. Actually. 322 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: Upon further reflection, however, I love that they have now 323 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: added an app called Preview, which does what was already 324 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: doable in Apple Notes, but I think it does it 325 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: even more elegantly. Because we love having the feature where 326 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: you can just scan documents straight on your phone and 327 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: then email them or a up wherever you need to go. 328 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: And I used it in Apple Notes, but I found 329 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: it clunky that I couldn't just like scan my document 330 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: not within the notes ecosystem, Like what if I didn't 331 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: need it in Apple Notes and then I have to 332 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 3: like pull it off of notes or whatever. 333 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: So I think this is fanas past. 334 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: So I don't know about the whole esthetic clear glass 335 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: situation and the flashes when I'm texting. If you have upgraded, 336 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about. 337 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: But I do like previews. 338 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: All right, Well that is good, Well, thank Apple for that. 339 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to go totally non tech and I'm going 340 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: to say botanical gardens in the fall. So many people 341 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: think of botanical gardens as a spring thing and that 342 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: is when peak crowds will come, but many also have 343 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: a season for the fall because there are a lot 344 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: of fall blooming flowers. It turns out that this is 345 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: an evolutionary strategy that some number of beautiful flowers employ, 346 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: and the upside of fall flowers is that the backdrop 347 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: against the fall flowers is also more colorful, so you 348 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: have these interesting juxtapositions of like yellow flowers with orange 349 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: trees behind them and purple asters with yellow oaks behind them, 350 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: and so you get these different dift color combinations that 351 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: you just don't in spring, where the back color is 352 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: all mostly green. 353 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: So I find that esthetically fascinating. 354 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: So I would heartily encourage people, if they have botanical 355 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: gardens near them, to go visit. Some close for winter, 356 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: but they often are still open into the fall. I've 357 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: been going to Chanticleer, which is about twenty minutes from 358 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: my house, so that can be a long lunch if 359 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: I wish it to be. And then I went to 360 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: Longwood Gardens the weekend before we recorded this. That was 361 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: a lot of fun to walk around there. See there 362 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: are lily pads, Sarah, speaking of lily pads, things to 363 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: look forward to. 364 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: They have a whole display of lily pads. Oh yeah, 365 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: we went. 366 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: I saw it when we were there in July. I 367 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: love those lily pads. I mean, don't miss those lily pads. 368 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: They're pretty impressive. 369 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: It turns out lily pads can get quite large, and 370 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: so you could definitely envision yourself leaping from lily pad 371 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: to lily pad as you are trying to get through 372 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: a low moment in your life. 373 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're in the Philadelphia area, check out Longwood Gardens. 374 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: It's beautiful, all right. 375 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 3: My next one is not really seasonal, but who cares? 376 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 3: Ice cream Fridays We've just designated Friday. My kids always 377 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: ask me of ice cream, and like, we don't have 378 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: ice cream every night. Partly I don't want to stalk 379 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: the house without much ice. 380 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: Cream like all the time. 381 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: But Fridays is like ice cream night, and then we 382 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 3: can look forward to it and make sure we have 383 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: fun ice cream at home, different bars that people like, 384 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: different flavors, whatever, or every once in a bloom moon, 385 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: won't go out to Dairy Queen or something like that. 386 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: But I just like the concept. 387 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: I'm not saying we would never have ice cream on 388 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 3: any other night, but I'd like looking forward to it 389 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: on Fridays. 390 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: Would we were at the beach. 391 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: We have our favorite ice cream place at the beach. 392 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: We went basically every night while we were there. 393 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: Ice cream today, ice cream Tuesdays. Yes, I know, well 394 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: we won't. 395 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: You know, we would never go out for ice cream otherwise, 396 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 2: like and most people don't even eat it here, like 397 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 2: I don't know. We don't really buy it here, so 398 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: it's just like a fun beach treat. We like, indulge 399 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: in ice cream for two straight weeks and then let 400 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: it gets it. 401 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: That's it. I love it. 402 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: Well, they would probably really associate the taste and experience 403 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: of ice cream with going to the Bees. 404 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 2: And then it's really like good ice cream, right, you know, 405 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: it's ice cream parlor ice cream and not just random 406 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: discount FROs grocery brand that I might be buying. All right, 407 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: so I'm going to it's sort of a similar category. 408 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: But I mean to say, food that you have personally procured. Now, 409 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: I am not like in any way one of those 410 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 2: people writing their parenting essays about how if you grow 411 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: your own veggies your kids will eat them. There is 412 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: no overlap between veggies grown personally and kids being more 413 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 2: willing to eat said veggies. In my house, however, I 414 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: have enjoyed some food that we have personally procured. So 415 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: Ruth and I went to Soulbury Orchards, which is another 416 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: nice Philadelphia area place. It's up in Bucks County and 417 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: is less of a zoo than some other pick your 418 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: own farms around here. 419 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't need to mention them. But you know, we 420 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: enjoyed a. 421 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 2: Slightly more tame experience Soulburry Richard's, so I'll throw that 422 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: out there. And we bought huge numbers of honey crisp apples. 423 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: Honey crisps are my favorite. You have to time that 424 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: to certain weekends of September basically to kill them. 425 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they. 426 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: If you think of apple picking as a truly fall 427 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: like October activity, there are only certain varieties that are 428 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 2: available then my favorite are all available in September, so 429 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: we have to make sure if we go, we go then. 430 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: But we got a ton, so we've been eating those. 431 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: We had apple sauce, We've got pies just I've been 432 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: cutting up basically two of them a day and feeding 433 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: myself and the kids slices of apples with every meal. 434 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 2: We also have a freezer full of salmon and halibate. 435 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: Because my husband and fifteen year old went to Alaska 436 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: for a week this summer. They went on a commercial 437 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: fishing boat. I guess not really. It was sort of 438 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: like a yeah, there's this guided fish shing deep sea 439 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: fishing thing, and they had their Alaska fishing licenses and 440 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 2: hauled in all this halibut and salmon which they brought 441 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 2: back frozen to our house. 442 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: So we have been eating it. 443 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: And with like zero discussion. We had like the same 444 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: thing happened the same weekend. Yeah, we were in the 445 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: keys and Josh like and his friend did a fishing 446 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: charter but there's no salmon or halibut in the keys, 447 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: but they did. They didn't catch fish and it's still 448 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: in my freezer. So catching what I don't remember what 449 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: it was, but it was large. Cameron got the like prize. 450 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 3: We have a great picture, like it's huge, and we 451 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: did eat it. Actually they had a thing where you 452 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: could eat it at the restaurant at the resort, like 453 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: they'd cook it for you. We ate like two thirds 454 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 3: of it together and it. 455 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: Was it was really good. Yeah, so it's funny. 456 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 2: We have the photos of course of my husband and 457 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 2: son holding fish right on the boat. And was showing 458 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: this to someone in my life who who is single, 459 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: and she mentioned that on dating apps, like a lot 460 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: of the photos guys are with. 461 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: Gigantic fish or whatever. Apparently it's like, is that a 462 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: metaphor for dating? Is the way like I will provide 463 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: for you? Look, I can fight a fish. I thought 464 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: it was more like there's more fish in the sea, 465 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: like I think it's. 466 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: It's also one of the few times that men actually 467 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: get their photo take it. Like men aren't walking around 468 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: be like take my photo for Instagram or whatever. So 469 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 2: it's there's not that many photos. That's kind of sweet 470 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: men would have, but they do. That's what they put 471 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: up on the dating app. So great, good to know. 472 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, and well tomatoes too. We've grew a lot of tomatoes. 473 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: And I'm not a huge fan of tomatoes regularly, but 474 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: the ones we grow when they're fresh off the vine there, 475 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: they're pretty good. 476 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, big shout out to uh. 477 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: Have a dinner with our own salmon, sliced honey, crisp, apples, 478 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: and tomatoes. 479 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: And you know it's all personally procured. 480 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take one more quick ad break, 481 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: then we will be back with more loves of the week. 482 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: All right, we're back. I think I really only have 483 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 3: one more big one. Yeah, and it's another food one. 484 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I just really love going to. 485 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: Trader Joe's in late September or mid October, so as 486 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: you're airing this is still in effect and buying everything 487 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: pumpkin and just like making a joke out of it 488 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: and then just serving a lunch that's like random pumpkin items. 489 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 3: Some my kids really enjoy it too, So if you 490 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: haven't tried it, I recommend. 491 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: Call it the pumpkin challenge. What like, what is the 492 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: randomness of the pumpkin items? 493 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: Pumpkin samosas, pumpkin hummus, pumpkin salsa, pumpkin chips, pumpkin cookies, 494 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 3: pumpkin like, It's just like they have everything pumpkin pumpkin pasta, like, 495 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 3: even things that like really didn't need to be. 496 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: Pumpkin they have. Nobody asked pumpkin cereal. It's like nobody 497 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: how about pumpkin cereals? Says t Days. But it's humorous 498 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: and fun and it's now an annual ritual. 499 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: Yea, So well, the time is that I gotta have 500 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: some sort of october Fest craft beer, since that's you know, 501 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 2: on my things that I love that I have not 502 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 2: done it to work because I actually don't really like 503 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: most of the sort of like pumpkinny or october Fest 504 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: related beers, and I'm not going to drink two beers, 505 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: so like you know, I'm foregoing one that I would 506 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: like in order to have one that I don't necessarily like. 507 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 2: But maybe I could have like two SIPs. Maybe I'll 508 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 2: find somebody else to likes to share it with them. 509 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,679 Speaker 2: I don't know, so I guess related, but a folish 510 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: kind of version. I've been roasting veggies. This has been 511 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: my goal is to do this on Sunday. 512 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: I didn't. 513 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: We're recording this on a Monday, and I didn't yesterday, 514 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 2: but I did the past two Sundays. Yesterday we made 515 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: a pie and did some other stuff, so there's already 516 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: a lot of baking involved. 517 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: So I never got around to this. 518 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: But I chop up various veggies, brush them with olive 519 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: oil and salt them, bake them at four hundred degrees 520 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 2: for thirty minutes or so. 521 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: They come out slightly. 522 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: And I don't know about you, but I like my 523 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: veggies to be slightly sweeter. So if you have oil 524 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: and salt in the slightly sweet, you've got that combo 525 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: of sweet salt fat. That is, in fact, what people 526 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: like to eat. It's why like caramel corn is so attractive. 527 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: But this is yeah veggie version of this. So if 528 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: you can make veggies into things that feel like a 529 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 2: good snack food. 530 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: Then I feel like you're already winning. 531 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 2: And totally I don't do so many, but I do 532 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: enough that I can have it as like a side 533 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 2: dish on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday, and so I figure, 534 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: that's at least some more veggies in my life. 535 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: Right delicious sounds good, makes me want to eat them 536 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 3: right now. My last one's a little meta, which is 537 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: just that it's the time of year when we can 538 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 3: already start thinking about like Thanksgiving and the holidays, Like 539 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 3: it's not crazy to. 540 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: Be planning that. 541 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: I booked a lot of our ski stuff now, and 542 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 3: I just, yeah, it's anticipation and not like what we're 543 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: actually doing. 544 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: But there's joy in that. 545 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no, I mean I've we're definitely thinking 546 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: through the holidays. We already booked our big trip for 547 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: the holidays, but we're thinking of adding another one possibly 548 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: for some people, and you know, been pondering Thanksgiving and stuff. 549 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: It's so, you know, at the end of the year 550 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: is always a good celebratory time and I'm enjoying thinking 551 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: about what am I still doing this year, and then 552 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: you get to start thinking about the next year. 553 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: Like you know as I bought the new planner. What 554 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: are what are my goals going to be for twenty 555 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: twenty six? Sarah, I don't know. I'm going to find 556 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: out in just a couple of weeks from this airing 557 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: at Bestly Planing. 558 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true because I will have been forced to 559 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: record this our goals for twenty twenty six episodes, so 560 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 2: stay tuned for that, all right. So this week's question 561 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: comes from something that could be a big win but 562 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: sometimes is occasionally not so. The listener says, I have 563 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: been setting up carpools or set up a carpool to 564 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: save time, but the back and forth via texts and 565 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 2: people switching or having to cancel feels like it is 566 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: creating a lot of extra mental load for something that 567 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 2: was supposed to make my life easier. Are there smarter 568 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: ways to do this or carpool best practices to make 569 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: it not feel like an addedvert in? 570 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: Sarah, what do you have? Yeah? 571 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: I mean some of this has to do with the 572 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: culture of your carpool, Like we had a fantastic one 573 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 3: last year, and I think it was just sort of 574 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 3: understood that, like you don't cancel, yeah, just don't mess 575 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 3: it up. Like if your kid is sick, you're still 576 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 3: driving the other two kids and like it'll all turn 577 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: or you you might ask for the occasional swap, but 578 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: in general, you just sort of like stay in your lane. 579 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 3: And we did it by day, so that would just 580 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: kept it really really simple. Like we always drove Tuesdays 581 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 3: and then there was like a Monday drive and a 582 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 3: Thursday drive. We didn't have to think about anything on 583 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: Monday and Thursday, and we did everything on Tuesdays and 584 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: we just owned that day. 585 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: I think that kept it simple. 586 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: We did have a What's up chat so that we 587 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: could communicate like hey, I'm here or whatever. But I 588 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 3: do think some of it is just like between the lines, 589 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: like talking to people like this is going to be 590 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 3: like a serious. 591 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: Carpool, right, Like this is not an amateur level carpool, because. 592 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 3: It would be really frustrating for like over and over again, Oh, 593 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 3: actually I can't do it this week, I can't do 594 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 3: it that week. Like pick a day that you can 595 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 3: commit to, and hopefully that can work for everyone because 596 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 3: you being consistent with your Tuesday means other people can 597 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 3: consistently know they have their Tuesday not to worry about. 598 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's true. 599 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: I remember many years ago we did a carpool for 600 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: middle school with Jasper and some neighbors and he started 601 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: doing this before school choir two mornings a week, and 602 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: I still came back and drove the two other kids 603 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 2: on the weeks that it was my week to do 604 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: the whole week because we did it by week. 605 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: So I would carpool with you anytime. 606 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Sarah, there are many reasons that you and 607 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: I have a podcast that has lasted eight years. 608 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna skip, not gonna track it out of 609 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: carpel do. 610 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: It just because like there was a plausible reason not 611 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: to do it. 612 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: So I guess that is a lesson, like choose your partner, 613 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 3: Like maybe you get to know people a little bit 614 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: before you decide who you want to carpool with and 615 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: make sure that your intentions are aligned. 616 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely so, Yes, choosing reliable carpool partners. And I 617 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 2: actually interviewed a gentleman from my other podcast, which may 618 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 2: have run by this point or will soon, Paul Leonardi, 619 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: who's the author of Digital Exhaustion, and he talked some 620 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: about this topic as well. I mean, I rememberbody I was, 621 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: you know, he was mentioning this because I was like, 622 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 2: oh my god, I just heard this question as well. 623 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 2: But his wife got a text from a friend who 624 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 2: said that her carpool had resulted in eighty three texts 625 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: on their chain that week. 626 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: That's a lot. 627 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: That's a lot of TEA had it muted, but but. 628 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: He went back and counted. Okay, get back. 629 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: And counted, and there were eighty three texts, And I'm like, wow, 630 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: that is yeah. I mean, at that point, yes, I 631 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: don't believe the carpool is necessarily saving you any time 632 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: or mental effort. So so choose well, one thing to 633 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: do instead of trying to arrange it digitally. If there 634 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: is a situation where you are all in person, like 635 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: if you're all there at the first game or first practice, 636 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: doing that back and forth in person to set it 637 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: out and to figure out what works might be more helpful, 638 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: even just because the in person interaction is going to 639 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: be more pleasant than back and forth via text. And 640 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: if there is any sort of situation where things will 641 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: be changed again, it helps if there is a time 642 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: you are all getting together, so for instance, if you 643 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: all see each other at games, that is when you 644 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: discuss any of the changes that would need to happen 645 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: to the carpool schedule as opposed to like a digital 646 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 2: back and forth, and so that sort of reduces it. 647 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: And you know you are seeing each other, then you 648 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: don't all go to the practices that might be a 649 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: way to make it not feel like this tedious thing. 650 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: It's more like you're just having a conversation with your 651 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: fellow parents along the side, and you know you can 652 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: conclude things instead of. 653 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: Anything else. 654 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: No, I was going to say that actually what you 655 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 3: were saying, and I'm going to love this interview. I 656 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 3: have a feeling because I, you know, think we are 657 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: digitally exhausted sometimes, but like to carpool, if you work 658 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 3: in something where you're like taking turns being in charge, 659 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: like a call schedule, I actually think that would so 660 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: benefit from being a personal discussion rather than everyone's emailing, 661 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: texting back and forth, maybe sending stuff to one person. 662 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: They're supposed to put everything together. No, get everyone in 663 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: a room, go through the calendar and be like, who 664 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: wants this week? Who wants this week? And yeah, they're 665 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: fifty two weeks and I'll take a while, but then 666 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: you're done for the year. Or maybe you just do 667 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: it by quarter, you do twelve weeks, and I think 668 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: that would be so much quicker than trying to synthesize 669 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: everybody's I can't do that, but I can't do that 670 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: and whatever, and then no one's surprised by anything. So 671 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 3: this is my vision for how I think calls should 672 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: be figured out in my division. 673 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: And it won't probably. 674 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 3: Happen because I'm not in charge of making the schedule, 675 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: but my fantasy, I'll keep communicating it and maybe someday 676 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: we'll try it. 677 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so we're best practices here is we 678 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: are going to choose the right carpool partners. Yeah, we 679 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: are going to just own times, whether that's owning a 680 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: day or owning a week, so there's no uncertainty of 681 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: who is doing it. The ethos is that you don't 682 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: cancel unless you absolutely absolutely have to. The logistics are 683 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: ideally arranged in person. Yes, So it's a pleasant conversation 684 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: as opposed to fifty techts back and forth. 685 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: Love it, love it all right. 686 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: Well, we don't have an extra love of the week 687 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: this time because this has been an all love of 688 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: the Week episode, but we would love to hear from 689 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: you if you have tips on making a carpool run. Well, 690 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 2: you can make that happen. 691 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: And if you have another Love of the Week, we'd 692 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: love to hear that too. Yeah, send us your Fall favorites. 693 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, this has been best of both worlds. We've 694 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: been discussing our all Love of the Week Fall edition. 695 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: We will be back next week with more on making 696 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: work and life fit together. 697 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. 698 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: You can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com 699 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram. 700 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: And you can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. 701 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: This has been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please 702 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: join us next time for more on making work and 703 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: life work together.