1 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: What is up, Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: of The Mets the Podcast. The boys are stroking that 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: podcast YouTube algorithm doing a little bit of player previews. 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: I've seen a couple of people do these before, and honestly, 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: i'd be truthful, it doesn't really make a lot of 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: sense in my head. But the boys are playing the 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: numbers game. We're playing the episode's game. We're playing the 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: podcast game here, we're playing the content game. We're gonna 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: be dropping some player previews for you guys until the 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: opening day. Basically, as long as we can as many 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: guys as we can talk about on their own, we will. 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: And then we're gonna end up grouping in some players 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: that are in similar positions together that don't really deserve 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: their own episode. Like, I don't know, who's a player 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: that's coming off the top of your head that's probably 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: not gonna get their own episode. 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: James, We're not gonna do the Michael Tonkin episode. Yeah, 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: that's a good one. That's a perfect choice. 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: And Michael, honestly though, maybe with how the bullpen's looking 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: and like we might need a stretch guy, Michael Tonkin 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: could be him. Maybe he gets his own, but at 22 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: the same time. 23 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: Maybe know Omar Neva's episode. 24 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a better one. I think that's 25 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: a better one. Omar Nerva is not gonna get his own. 26 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, this is the Francisco Lindor Player preview episode, 27 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: glaze Fest, whatever you want to call it. We're gonna 28 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: act as if you guys don't know anything about Francisco Lindor, 29 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: you've never heard about him, and we're gonna tell you 30 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: all the great things about the New York Mets shortstop. 31 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: Because let's be honest, here's here's where it starts. Get ready. 32 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: I mean, he is one of the best shortstops in baseball. 33 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: There's just no way around it. He's at worse at worse. 34 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: If you, if you like held held my head in 35 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 2: the sink, at worst, I'd give you his top three. 36 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: That's the lowest I could possibly go, and I would 37 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: I would really fight you on top two because it's 38 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: just he is. He simply is since he came to 39 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: the Mets, basically since he came up into the major 40 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: leagues as a Cleveland then India now technically Guardy and 41 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: I guess to be PC but it's just he is. 42 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: He's one of the best shorts house in baseball, and 43 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: he's really become one of the best players in baseball. 44 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: And I'm happy we've gotten to a point now where 45 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: basically the public perception of Mets fans, basically every single 46 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: person's on board with this and this is the right 47 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: side of history. 48 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was for a while insane. Again, it 49 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: the first year wasn't the best for Francisco. It was 50 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: one of his down years, and he had he did 51 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: the Carlos Beltron thing, came to New York, got paid, 52 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: didn't play well, and I think a lot of people 53 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: who saw him have that down covid year got a 54 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: little bit worried of like, oh my god, did we 55 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: trade for this guy who's now never gonna be as 56 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: good as he once was in Cleveland. But the last 57 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: two years have completely shut that down again. He is 58 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: not just one of the best short stops in the 59 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: National League, he's one of the best short stops in baseball, 60 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: one of the best players in the league, a top 61 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: twenty five player in my opinion, all of Major League Baseball. 62 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: And he's there every single day for the Mets. Wiz 63 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: he missed like two or three games in his three 64 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: season as in New York Mets like it's it's unbelievable 65 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: the durability that he's had as well. 66 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: He's missed the three games in two years, but he 67 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: missed like we basically a month in twenty twenty one. 68 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: Remember the month right after we got Javier Byas. I 69 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: think it was a quad. There wasn't no league. He 70 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: got hurt for something legitimate. I think he even still 71 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: came back in less time. But again, he simply is 72 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: one of the best, one of the best players in baseball, 73 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: and definitely the best player of this Mets team. I 74 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: wanted to chat a lit code from the great Philly 75 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: Atado of the late seasons on the Sopranos said that 76 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: there's five families and a little pigmy thing out in 77 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: New Jersey that will pick me thing out in New Jersey. 78 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: That's technically the group of Mets fans I still don't 79 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: believe for Cisco Lindor is is like a really good 80 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: baseball player, and we have to deal with that, and 81 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: that's fine, but there's a vocal minority. It's just in 82 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: three seasons as a Met, Lindor seventy seven homers, two 83 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: org to seventy nine runs, score, two hundred sixty RBIs, 84 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: fifty seven stolen bases sixteen point eight four. That's her season. 85 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: That comes out to twenty six homers, ninety three runs, 86 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: eighty nine RBIs, nineteen stolen bases five point six war 87 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: and that's in one hundred and fifty games per year 88 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: because he did miss those about thirty forty games twenty 89 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: twenty one. That's a fantastic season. That's a guy. If 90 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: he's playing one sixty two, you're basically looking at thirty 91 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: ninety five ninety five twenty two six war basically. 92 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: And we've seen the last few seasons like he's been 93 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: playing at that elite level. And that's just on the 94 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: offensive side too. Talk about this guy defensively, he's arguably 95 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: the best defensive shortstop and all of baseball. Again, if 96 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: he's not one, he's he's two or three. Like, he's 97 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: right up there as one of the best defensive shortstops 98 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: in the league. With being a well above average hitter. 99 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: There's nothing not to like about this guy, and he 100 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: shows up every single day, plays hard, don't I don't. 101 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: I really don't know what else to say about Francisco 102 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: indoor besides that, Like he's awesome again. 103 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: This is the Glaze episode, so major glays Fest. It's 104 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: only missed three games in two years. And he found 105 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: out a couple months ago. He played all of last 106 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: year with the bones burn his elbow, something that he 107 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: said specifically happened at spring training. Yeah, so he did 108 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,119 Speaker 2: literally the whole year of the bones spurn his elbow. 109 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: And then two years ago, remember he basically broke his 110 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: finger shutting the door in San Francisco. I think he 111 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: missed a game and that was when he was starting 112 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: off really hot. Theyk got cold because he dealing with 113 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: a broken finger. Last year he had a kid. He 114 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: was at the ballpark in the afternoon for a pitch 115 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: of appear. It's like it was like he is there 116 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: every single day, Like this is what you want from 117 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: highest paid player, from your leader, from your shortstop, like 118 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: from someone who's become like the face of your franchise 119 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: is everything you want. And probably and then South and. 120 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: Since we've signed him, I mean he's genuinely become the 121 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: face of this franchise. He has been one of the 122 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: most valuable players as well just in baseball. So if 123 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: you want to make the argument about the money conversation 124 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: with Francisco Indoor. Oh, he's not worth the three hundred 125 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: million dollars or whatever it's going to be. He's got 126 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: the six more sixth most f war in Major League 127 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: Baseball since the time of signing that contract, and that's 128 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: only behind Aaron Judge, Mookie Bets, Trade Turner, Freddie Freeman, 129 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: and Jose Ramirez, which you're talking about again, some of 130 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: the best players in baseball. We just named four of 131 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: the five best players in baseball, arguably especially on the 132 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: offensive side. So to be in that category it really 133 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: does like make you almost take a step back and 134 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: be like, oh shit, because is he actually even better 135 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: than we think he is? 136 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: Significantly And that's even like just barely behind Trey Turner 137 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: and tredeterror is nas goods of defensive player, probably slightly better 138 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: offensive player, but also just came off the worst year 139 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: of his career, also in the first year of a 140 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: mega deal with a new team in a new city. 141 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: Crazy family. Yeah, lots of stuff happened in your ahead 142 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: of that. I mean, Freddy Freeman didn't happen, I guess 143 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: because he's just a freak of nature. But all that 144 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: also including one of the six best players in league 145 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: since he signed the deal. That's including the liberal worst 146 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: season for Cisco indoors entire career. Like that happened. It's 147 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: very real, ca' sugercot that like he had a bat 148 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: season he hit two thirty with like twenty homers, was 149 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: only worth four war Oh my god, only worth four 150 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: probably one of like fifty players in baseball to get 151 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: to that number in the worst season of his entire career. 152 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: Just he's very comfortably one of the ten best position 153 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: players fifteen best. I'll even give you position players in 154 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: baseball second or third best shorts stop and even a 155 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: lot of people go back to that contract all the time. 156 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: Three hundred forty million, like it's a ridiculous contract. Yeah, 157 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: he's a good player, but he's only thirty home runs 158 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: for thre hundred forty million. Blah blah blah. Even since 159 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: he signed that contract, it's looked better and better and 160 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: better with every passing offseason. Corey Seeger signed basically the 161 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: same deal, the same age, and he's disgusting. Corey Seger 162 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: did things last year to play then, like I don't 163 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: even know how to describe, Like it was the most 164 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: amazing thing ever. He won won the World Series MVP, 165 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: led his team to the championship. Amazing, but even still 166 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: like he played like one hundred and twenty five games 167 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: and this year he already has another injury. He's already 168 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: probably going to miss opening Day. Like that's the thing, 169 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: like you're away, that's always gonna happen with Corey Seger, 170 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: but he's gonna be like sixty percent better than the 171 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: gua average way he's on the field, so you give 172 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: it to him. It's also not anywhere near the defensive player. 173 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: Francisco Indors, like there's a there's a real world where 174 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: Corey Seeger. That teamers has so many kloky guys that 175 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: first base and third base are kind of blocked up. 176 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: But I'm sure the last few years of that contract 177 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: thirty four to thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven years old, 178 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: Corey seekers either on a corner or possibly just a 179 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: DH because still be able to hit where Lindor signed 180 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: through age thirty seven season, you're gonna need to drag 181 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: that guy at a shortstop, kicking and screaming, like you 182 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: might have to knock him out, tranquilize and take him 183 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: off that position. But even when he has to go 184 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: off that position, it's gonna be a great second basement. 185 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: I remember I tweeted as like a meme or as 186 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: a joke when he signed that deal, But like, thirty 187 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: five year old second basement of Facisco Indoor is gonna 188 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: be such a wildly vet And it's true. I feel 189 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: it like he's gonna still give you up the middle 190 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: defensive value at the back end of this contract. Now 191 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: you look at some other contracts signed by short stop 192 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: Carls Karrey makes one million lesson for Cisco Indoor year, Yeah, 193 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: it's insane. That's not close a loot. I'd much rather 194 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: have Lindor. And then you look at years, like he's 195 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: only signed to thirty seven. That's huge for a mega deal, 196 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: not taking guy till forty. Trey Turner signed his deal 197 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: last year. He signed until forty years old, just had 198 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: the worst year of his career. I don't want that. 199 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: Lindor thirty seven is still it's not even gonna be 200 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: that bad. He might sign another deal after that, another 201 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: two or three year deal worth like fifty million, like 202 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: or likes something like Altuve just signed this year, like 203 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: twenty four million. For a couple of years to four, they. 204 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: Brandan Crawford still playing, and that guy can't hit for 205 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: a lot. So like the fact that like Francisco Lindor 206 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: will be around that same age, still have that Oh 207 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: my god, it's got a huge purp, it's that great glove. 208 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: I don't think the bat's going anywhere. Yeah, Like you 209 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: just compare him to all the short stops around the league. 210 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Like Dansby Swanson got that seven year deal, He's way 211 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: better than Dansby Swanson. Javier Baya's got that mega deal 212 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: from the Tigers. He's way better than Javier Bayaz, all 213 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: the guys who are getting paid. There's just Francisco Lindoor 214 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: is different. Like I think for sure, Corey seekers number one. 215 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: Like you said, he's just what he does in a 216 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: vacuum at the plate is just way more valuable than 217 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: what most people do for the entire season. But then 218 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: you look at Lindor and the only guy I think 219 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: that's really in that same tier of like having that 220 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: defense and offense right now is Bobby Wit Junior. And 221 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: that guy's twenty two years old or twenty three years old. 222 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: So you're comparing him to like one of the best 223 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: young players in baseball. He's obviously in his prime, and 224 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: there does seem to be a drop off after those 225 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: three because they don't all do what Francisco Lindoor is 226 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: able to do, which is offense and defense at speed. 227 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: When George just went thirty thirty last season, Bobby would 228 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 2: also have a speed. Bobby might go forty fifty this year, 229 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: so he's a different category. He might shoot past everybody 230 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: this year, like he's that good. He's a special player, 231 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: and he just got his mega deal. So good on 232 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: Bobby Wit like be a superstar, But it is a 233 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: bit of a different feeling to be a superstar, I 234 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: think in Kansas City compared to New York City. He 235 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 2: thinks so. And we've heard Nor talk about this, and 236 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: we heard more spificly Carls Beltron talk about this when 237 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: he came on our show last year last spring training. 238 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: Where it's like you when you're become the face of 239 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: the franchise, you're the highest paid player in the team 240 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: in New York like, you're asked to do everything. You're 241 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: asked to do media, you're asked to do endorsements like 242 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: your beer leader and the team you have to help 243 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 2: other guys in the locker room training all this stuff. 244 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: It's hard to say no. And you could feel that 245 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 2: so much with the door because his personality, because he's 246 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: always talking to everybody, he's always smiling, and everybody's always 247 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 2: trying to help everybody. So think it probably just was 248 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: a situation where he had to kind of figure out 249 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: his own time management, his own process to where he 250 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 2: had to work on himself where he had the time 251 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: for other stuff, and then where he kept having the 252 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: time to do all these other things he does the 253 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: charitable contributions being a father. His wife posted a crazy 254 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: thing on Instagram like a week and a half ago 255 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: that like, he's smiling at camp right now, but you 256 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: didn't see that. He was up all night with like 257 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: a bag last night, and then and then help their 258 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 2: other daughter get ready for school in the morning to 259 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: help with homework, and now on two hours of sleep, 260 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: he's at the ballpark smiling, helping Jet Williams position himself 261 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: a shortstop. Yeah. 262 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be great to have him around 263 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: with those young players as well. I can only imagine 264 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: the value that he's gonna be able to bring to 265 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: the development of guys like Jet Williams and luisann Hellacunya 266 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: and even Brett Bady, who you've seen him be like 267 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: kind of close to around in campus spring working on 268 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: drills with him being involved getting work in with the 269 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: guy who definitely needs some help. So I think the 270 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: fact that I don't think there was ever a question 271 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: of what kind of leader Francisco Lindor would ever be, 272 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: because it just seems like he's more of a lead 273 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: by example guy rather than like a vocal rile people up, 274 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: like inspirational leader. But that's fine. You don't need to 275 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: be the inspiration. You don't need to be Ray Lewis 276 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: on the field in order to make an impact as 277 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: a leader. And for Francisco Lindor, don't. 278 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: Don't could be that that that's much. No, I was 279 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: gonna make a joke like, thankfully he's also not like 280 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: ray Lewis off the field either, like he well, yeah, 281 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: upstanding said this in Fantastic Father. And he's a valuable 282 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: memory of the community. No, no, nothing the Fairies to 283 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 2: our knowledge, No no, but like he's just he's the face 284 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: of the franchise. He's exactly the guy that you would 285 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: want to pay three hundred million dollars to not to 286 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: mention its like on a Hall of Fame career path 287 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: like Loki on path to be one of the best 288 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: shortstops to ever play this game, and it's not really 289 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: even debatable at this point. I would even call it 290 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: high key. Francisco Indoor is the seventh most war ever 291 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: for a short stop before turning thirty years old, and 292 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: a raz no on that list because I set the 293 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: sliders to had to play at ninety percent of your 294 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: games at short stop before turning thirty and he switched 295 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: a third base of like twenty seven, so he's not 296 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: on there. But the only players in the history of 297 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: baseball to have more war accumulated before turning thirty Francisco Indoor, 298 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: Ernie Banks, truthly one of the greatest players in the 299 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: history of baseball. Ernie Banks is not celebrated enough for 300 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: everything he did as a baseball player because the Cubs 301 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: were just just a shit show for like one hundred 302 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: years straight basically and then good for a couple now 303 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: kind of weird again, But Ernie Banks, Cal Ripken Jr. 304 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: Alan Tremmel, Arkie Vaughan, Lou Boudreau, and somehow Jim Fergozi interesting, 305 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: and that's his and that's the live ball era. If 306 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: you set that for since nineteen sixty, you got they're 307 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty, you only get Banks, Ripkin, Tremmel and Forgozi. Again, 308 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: weird one for Grozy, but like Arkievon and lou Baudreaux, 309 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 2: like those are special players, but they're definitely playing a 310 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 2: different game. Lou Badeau won the greatest short step seasons 311 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: of all time. I think it was nineteen twenty eight, 312 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: nineteen forty three. One of those he had two percent 313 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: strike out rate, twelve percent walk right like twenty homers. 314 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: The guy was unstoppable to play. Won the MVP Hall 315 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: of Fame or whatever. But from that whole list, everybody 316 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: except Boudreau and Banks has play at least fourteen hundred games, 317 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: where Lindor's only played twelve hundred games so far. So 318 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: he's even still a couple hundred games short of those guys. 319 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: That's still is accumulating the same wins above replacements then 320 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: before his age thirty season, and all of those players 321 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: I just named, besides Jim Fergozi, of course, is in 322 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. And that is where Francisco indoor 323 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: is right now, it's really really hard to argue against it. Yeah, totally, 324 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 2: and that like it encapsulates to like defensively. On Baseball Reference, 325 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: they use DRS rather than OAA, and OA loves him 326 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 2: even more than DRS does oas like, this guy's not 327 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: only a sick shortstop, he's one of the best we've 328 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: ever seen played the position defensively at shortstop with his OAA, 329 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: so that could even. 330 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: Bump him up a little bit more. And the fact 331 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: that you look at the counting stats too, he is 332 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: the third most home runs for shortstops in that time period, 333 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: only behind Cal Ripken and Ernie Banks, who are i 334 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: mean prolific power hitters as well at that position. So 335 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: pretty incredible company to be involved with when you're talking 336 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: about the greatest shortstops of all time. 337 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: And he's also only ten home runs behind Cal Ripken Jr. 338 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: But with two hundred and fifty less play appearances and 339 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: Franciscle Lindora for his career as average home runs for 340 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: play appearance is better than twenty five, So there's kind 341 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: of reason to believe that if he just came up 342 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: i don't know, like a half season earlier in Cleveland 343 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: like he's actually ahead of him. He's the second most 344 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: home runs ever by shortop before turning thirty years old. 345 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: Which to think about that for a second again, not 346 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: a rod because he hit most of Homer the shortops 347 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: which the third base doesn't fit the sleeve you play 348 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: ninety percent is game to shortstop? What was that? 349 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: Oh? 350 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, the needle, the needle, Yeah, the juice. You put 351 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: a needle in your head. I don't know, I know, 352 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: I didn't know what. 353 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't like put it in my butt because it 354 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: was like, it's not gonna work on the camera. 355 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: That's Barry Bonds for you put the neil right in 356 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: his head. So why I got so big? But it's 357 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: just as in terms of defense, in terms of power, 358 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: even in terms of run RBIs and ops plus Lindor's 359 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: top fifteen in all of those for every short stop 360 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: the history of baseball before turning thirty years old. So 361 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: right now as we are, he is one of the 362 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 2: best players at his position ever in the history game 363 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 2: to this point in his career and well on his 364 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: way to the Hall of Fame path. We're in like 365 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: a few years stretch right now, which is going to 366 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: be really important for Francisco Indor to actually be a 367 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer if he could stack a few more 368 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: of these six even possibly one more seven win season 369 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: before he turns thirty five years old, Like get to 370 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: if he can get to like twenty war in the 371 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: next three years. Like you almost can't even go against 372 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: him being a Hall of Famer. Ever, a couple more 373 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: All Star games, a lot more MVP votes, some playoff 374 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: success would be great, even the two playoff three playoff 375 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: games he plays a met he was one of the 376 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: only guys that could show up. You guys say that 377 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: great playoffs in Cleveland two back when that run happened. 378 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: Like he's always showed up in the moments when the 379 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: moment has been the brightest. Just hasn't had that many 380 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: pright opportunities in New York yet. But you cannot go 381 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: against anything he's done, Like he is one of the 382 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 2: best players in baseball and one of the best shortstops 383 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: ever before they turned thirty years old. Couldn't say it 384 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: better myself. 385 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he is big. I'm happy to have him 386 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: on the New York Mets, and that he's gonna be 387 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: here for the next eight years or whatever. It's gonna 388 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: be You got any got any bold prediction for Francis 389 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: Glendor for the season. 390 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like that's a fun way 391 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: to end these Yeah, I think, I mean, I think 392 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: Lindor is just gonna have another really good year. It 393 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: feels like another thirty thirty, like everyone kind of talks about, 394 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: like I'll never get back to the same offensive spot 395 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: he got with Cleveland. That probably is true, because he 396 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: put together like an eight win season. He had forty homers, 397 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: like fifty doubles like that was pretty special. 398 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: He was also third thirty eight, forty two, ninety two 399 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: and twenty five. That's about one of the best seasons 400 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: the short stops ever had. 401 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool that. It's pretty cool. It's also like 402 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: he was like twenty four years old then like that 403 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: that's great, and he had no pressure on he was 404 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: just chilling playing ball like last year though he still 405 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: despite that season, had the best barrel rate of his 406 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: entire career barrel's for play appearances, highest average EGX of 407 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: velosity of his entire career including that season, second highest 408 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 2: ex wOBA. Like he is ready. It's like everything is 409 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: still in place for him. To have another one of 410 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: these quintessential amazing years, like if he can get like 411 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: a thirty five home er, twenty five steal two ad season, 412 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: keep giving the defensive value mets surprise people like he 413 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: gets the end votes. It's like, just keep keep it rolling. 414 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: There's nothing in his profile it says anything is going 415 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: in the wrong direction. Really not at all, and it's 416 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: so much good stuff still with the young players, like 417 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: I heard the thing, I forgot who said it. I 418 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: hate not giving credits to people and they say these things. 419 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: But apparently his vodka is next to young Acunya at camp, 420 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: which is really great. He went to camp early to 421 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: spend extra time with the prospect you mentioned before, Baby 422 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: Viento's jet Acunya. Like he's there. He's doing every single 423 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: thing you would ever want from a superstar player and 424 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: then some. 425 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: And I mean you heard it here, guys, Francisco Lindor, 426 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: if you've never heard of him, now you know everything 427 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: you need to know about Francisco Lador. 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