1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: That's what these colors are at the bottom too. Man. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: I want to pay homage to you guys, man and 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: all the people that made this shoe what it was, 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: the commercial it was just like I wanted to tell 5 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: all these different stories so like everyone that could relate, 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: could see themselves in this in some way or whatever. 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: Feel like, oh man, I remember what that feel like, 8 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: that feeling and whatnot. 9 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: The bottom of the shoes, so dope brill didn't won 10 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: the world outside like this is like man. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we out here in shot Town, Chicago, Illinois, 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: my hometown. 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: You already know it. Yeah yeah yeah, Black and Live 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: live on. 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 4: Location and Infinite Archives and air Jordan's two thousand and 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 4: two store. I got the blackest one from East Saint 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 4: Louis ends the building. We got the man of the hour, 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 4: the men who curated this whole thing, the New Jordan seventeen. 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 4: We got easy from Infinite Archives in the building, well 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: known shot Town, Shot Town, Shot Town. 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: We about to get all into it. We about to 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: get into his. 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 4: Story, our story, and the story of the shoes all 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 4: up in here. Don't worry about y'all. Hit them l trains. 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: We in the west, little y'all know Shot City. We 26 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 4: got them l trains. My daddy drove in thirty nine 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: years shot out Liebo. We in the building, Man, Black, 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: you're feeling good. 29 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 5: I'm feeling great. 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: You ain't got your brains like two thousand and two, 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: I ain't got my waves. 32 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 5: I wish I had her. 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: Easy, the only one that's fortunate enough to still have 34 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 4: his head up in here. 35 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: Man. 36 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 4: But listen, we in Shottown. You know what I'm saying. 37 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 4: De Mouse me saying. Look, but this is a shot 38 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 4: Town thing over here. Being easy. We've shot Town born 39 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 4: and bred. My man is bringing something very special and 40 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 4: dear to the sneaker culture that we had a little 41 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: something to do with back in the day. But like 42 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 4: right now, it's all about easy Easy. 43 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, knuckleheads, Man Shottown in the building. 44 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it, man. Man. 45 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: First thing I like to say is, man, thank you 46 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: guys man for everything you've done. 47 00:01:58,960 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 5: Man. 48 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: I remember y'all coming to my high school like summer 49 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: league game and I played for Hillcrest and high school manager. 50 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: That changed my life to see you guys like in person, 51 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: and everything y'all was doing so it's like a full 52 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: circle moment for me. So I just want to thank y'all. Man, 53 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys making time and coming through and making 54 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: this happen. 55 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: Man, thank you for having us man to be a 56 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: part of this whole layout. 57 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 5: Man, it's a blessing. Man. Twenty five years later, twenty 58 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 5: years later, Yeah, you know, be reaping it, you know. 59 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: But I didn't like how you said, like it's a 60 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: shot time thing like Chicago. 61 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: You was like Chicago too, bro, Chicago was. 62 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: Like the little bro brought you to trying to bring 63 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 4: him win and he was scared. Let's put that out 64 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 4: the way. He could have been the state championship, but 65 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 4: he had to settle for just mister basketball, no state ring. 66 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: He on the range, you know what I'm saying. He 67 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: had to settle for that because he ain't won't come 68 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: down to be a. 69 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: Part of this. But like, you know, but you played 70 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: Super League. I remember, like in Chicago, right, did you 71 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: play with d Wade and all? 72 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: Like something I told you like a little bit, Okay. 73 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean you always screaming He's Saints, So I gotta 74 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: respect that. 75 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm an Illinois guy in Chicago is like back and 76 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: forth all the time, and we respect that, but don't 77 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: just like definition it off like I'm just Chicago. 78 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 5: Ain't the crib for me too? 79 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: You just said it the truth. 80 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 5: It was your second home, still is home. 81 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's get back to whatever first question we 82 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: asked everybody, But this is a different question for you 83 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 2: and designing. It could be somebody we know, somebody we 84 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: don't know. Who's the first person that busts or ass 85 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: and design And to the point where you was like, 86 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: I need to step my design game up. 87 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Oh man, design wise. Man Probably my brother Man. He 88 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: Man my big brother in my real life, five years 89 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: older than me. 90 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 5: Man. 91 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: He went to school for architecture industrial design. He actually designs. 92 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: Youes like, Man, that's what like his profession. Now, Yeah, 93 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: he was just I just want to be like my 94 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: big brother Man. So everything I saw him do, I 95 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: was like, Man, how can I copy this dude? And 96 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: he was like I never could get to his level, 97 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: you know at that time when I was growing up. 98 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: But like he was like you know, my beacon, the light. 99 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: I was just follow. If I was even close to him, 100 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: I felt like I was on. 101 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 5: He did that that you've seen, was like, Man, you 102 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 5: did this. 103 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: He used to draw like he drew. Like That's how 104 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: I got into even art and whatnot, like my brother drew. 105 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: So I wanted to do what my brother did. What 106 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: But he was like like perfect, could draw hands, eyes, 107 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: you know. I like he was super like just the man. 108 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: He was just great. Man. He was amazing. When bro 109 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: brother man, he like man, he the man. I couldn't 110 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: ask for a better big brother. Man. He really Uh 111 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: man my gallery. I name my gallery after my dad, 112 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: Anthony Gallery. And uh. After my dad passed away a 113 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: few years ago, my brother just was like man, he 114 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: just became like my dad and my brother at the 115 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: same time. So it was just like, Man, No, he 116 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: the best man shout out you know. I tell him 117 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: all the time. They don't never take it. He'd be like, nah, man, 118 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: you would have did. But he man music, fashion, like design, 119 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: even of the coach or the culture, even like e Bay. 120 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: We used to go to the thrift shop and like 121 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: he was. Yeah it was my brother. He put me 122 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: on Nike Tall Soul collector. Anything I did, it was 123 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: really because of him. Man always Man. Anytime I got 124 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: the platform, I try to just say my big brother Man. 125 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: You know, tell me this man, Like, you know, we 126 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: hearing the pop up you about to have a pop 127 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 4: up we in the city, Like, what does this mean 128 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 4: to you? 129 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: Like coming from where you come from? 130 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 4: You a Chicago kid, you know, we look at the 131 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 4: Jordan brand and what MJ did because we from Chicago. 132 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: We grew up on this. We lived and breathed it. 133 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: We was ready to die about this. 134 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 4: So like, what do it mean for you if like, 135 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: after all the things you've done, you get now you're 136 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: about to get your own You know what I'm saying, 137 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 4: Your own shoe with the brand that you got to 138 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 4: do and put your own is a money man. 139 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: It's a It's amazing man. Seriously, It's a again dream 140 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: come true. 141 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 5: Man. 142 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: It's something that I mean, I used to be in 143 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: Heights school, middle school, drawing shoes. Teachers used to be 144 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: my parents, and he's be like, man, you're wasting your time. 145 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: I'd be like, ah, Like I used to know that, yo, 146 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: one day this was gonna happen. And for this to 147 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: be like a full circle moment all these things happen, 148 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: it's like very fulfilling and it just it just shows you, 149 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, our thoughts and our our words have power 150 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: and whatnot, Like I'm sure for you guys like Man, 151 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: like just how you guys reached that pinnacle in your 152 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: career and whatnot, it was like, man, that's something that 153 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: every day you had to really have that vision and 154 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: know that that was gonna happen and whatnot, Like that's 155 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: not an accident that you guys made it to where 156 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: you were. So it's like I knew the same thing 157 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: with time, sacrifice, you know, commitment, consistency that Man, eventually 158 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure it out even if I don't know, 159 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: I helped out so many other people with their dreams 160 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: and goals with and so it's like it's cool, you. 161 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: Know what you're saying that talk about like leading up 162 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 4: to you getting this this shoe to do on your own, 163 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 4: talk about the work you've done with the brand. Prior 164 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 4: you've done you worked on a lot of travel shoes 165 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: and things. It's like really big in the culture. 166 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: As a friend, you know, Like Man again, just as 167 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: he started, you know, with his his collaborations and whatnot, 168 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: he would always pull me in and try to get 169 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: my opinions on things. Really, everyone of Cactus Jack, like 170 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 1: we all just like Man with your thoughts and whatnot. 171 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: Like Travis one of those people like man, you know, 172 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 1: he sees things in so many different perspectives and whatnot 173 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: that he wants to know everyone's like, he wants to 174 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: make the best product. You know. He's not a he's 175 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: not an eye person. He's like man, he wants the 176 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: people to enjoy everything. So that's been cool of course. 177 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: Don see, he was the first person that led me. 178 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: That's like my man, that's like my super duper brother. Man, 179 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: he had changed my life so many times. Man like 180 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: RSVP gallery just done and just him as a human being. Man, 181 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: he wanted the like most humble, nicest He like a 182 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: walking almanac or something. You don't you know everything you 183 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: can ask to dude any game date, he know everything 184 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: and whatnot. And I just been I just love how 185 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: you treat people and how you know. He just man, 186 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: he like the best dude man some of it. Yeah, 187 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: So he brought me in on his Ordan two's and 188 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: man of course Virgil like man, those are the people 189 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: that really like like changed my life and whatnot. 190 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: Man, So what was your first thought when they okay 191 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 2: for you to do to collapse and did you choose 192 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: the seventeens or. 193 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it was one of those things. I 194 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: had the white and Carolina blue ones in high school. 195 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 5: Okay you had them d Miles joints. 196 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly when you was in Cleveland. Yeah, you know, 197 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: we got to Jersey here somewhere, I think, Man, yeah, 198 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, no, that was it met something 199 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: to me. I was in high school two thousand and two. Man, 200 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: I was just like, man, those are my those are 201 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: Hillcrest Hawks colors or whatever. Man shout out to Hillcrest 202 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: Country Club, Hills. Man, you know. But yeah, no, I 203 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: met something to me. And I always told Jordan Brown like, yo, 204 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: if y'all do the seventeen, man, let me let me 205 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 1: take a you know, let me let me take my 206 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 1: perspective on it. 207 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 5: Then. 208 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Also I like a challenge too, like I knew 209 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: like with one through all the other you know numbers. 210 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: It's like, man, I think a lot of people have 211 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: seen that throughout the years, and it's only so much 212 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: you know that you could do right now. But you know, like, man, 213 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: the seventeen was something I want to you know, kind 214 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: of showing a different light. 215 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,599 Speaker 4: I saw you talking about that saying like how you 216 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 4: feel like the seventeens could be as popular as the 217 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 4: other shoes, getting you know, rotations of different variations in 218 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 4: different color ways. 219 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: It could be, man, just just popping and just just 220 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: cracking as some of the other ones. One hundred percent, man, 221 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: I honestly, I mean, I'll let y'all in on something 222 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: I really ain't told nobody yet. But like those samples 223 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: I made, I made that like those those belong to 224 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: Jordan Bran, you know, like those are colors that Jordan Bran, 225 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: that's like in the heritage and whatnot. Like I don't 226 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: have no I know a lot of people asking me like, oh, 227 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: what's up the purple? What's up the red? What's up 228 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: with the blue? Man? Those not my colors, you know, 229 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: like I want to remix them and did my thing 230 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: with them and changed them a little bit. But it 231 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: was more so to show the possibilities, show the heritage. 232 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: The Jordan Brann always knew I was gonna have a 233 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: tan colorway or you know, like that was something that. 234 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: You're telling me. We can't get a red or a 235 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: blue color. We only get in the tan color right now. 236 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: You know, the man, you gotta talk, You got to 237 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: talk to we don't have we have pol say. I 238 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: had to get Bigby on the phone. We're gonna have 239 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: to push some push. I would love for those to 240 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: come out, honestly, but you know, I understand. 241 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: You know these shoes got a lot of Easter eggs. Yeah, 242 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: one of the Easter eggs, that's one of your favorite. 243 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: The favorite one. It was probably again to come back 244 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: to Don and Virgil, those two being like my guide 245 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: and uh, just people that's just changed my life. Man, 246 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: put me on one of the first two people to 247 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: really believe in me with the r VP gallery and 248 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: let me be the buyer, let me be the operator, 249 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, really trusted me with the lineage of that 250 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: store and whatnot and like and the order of things. 251 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: I was like, Man, I don't know if I'm gonna 252 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: get another Jordan. You know, nothing is guaranteed in life. 253 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: And I was like, man, I want to make sure 254 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: if I make something that can sit next to something 255 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: that those two dudes may you know, like those are 256 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: my brothers. I wanted to be like and it's a 257 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: picture of us, Like, man, the first time we got 258 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: our Jordan account, we went to the Jordan meeting that 259 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: we huddled up and it's crazy that now we all 260 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: three of us got to Jordan, you know. So I 261 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: was like, man, I gotta make sure that I can 262 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: make something that could you know, match that that moment 263 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: and whatnot. So Virgil did the off white Jordan Forest 264 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: that were like Tan, and Don Di at the beach 265 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: Toos that were like Tan. So I was like, it's 266 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: only right, man, I don't know what's gonna happen. Man, 267 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: I gotta make these Tan. 268 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 5: Getting it into the Hall of Fame. 269 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know for sure, I got my chack. 270 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And I like that you just like you said, 271 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 4: we Chicago, dude, so we feel different about it. And 272 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: you coming up and getting to come behind what they 273 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 4: did and then get to kind of pay homage in 274 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 4: in your own way sitting next to them. 275 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: That that's fire. No for real. 276 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, history means a lot, you know, you're coming into 277 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: these industries no matter what it is. 278 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 5: I feel like the best people are the ones that 279 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 5: know the history before them. 280 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: Man. I'm telling you, man, I learned from Don and 281 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: this dude know everything. Man. I can't. Man, that's somebody 282 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: I can't be. You know everything, man, he got every reference, 283 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: every every game, every year. Tell me the feeling bro like, 284 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: like you was somebody. 285 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 4: I'm sure that like all of us Chicago kids, you 286 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: win at some point to the foot lockers or whatever 287 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 4: mall or whatever. 288 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: That athletes for I worked at Athletes said, I just said, ah, 289 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: think I told that to about it. I used to 290 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: work at foot Action. 291 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 4: So you so you know the vibe of like especially 292 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: here in Chicago, because in Chicago I feel like it 293 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 4: was a little bit not to say that didn't happen 294 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 4: all over the country in the world, but I felt 295 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: like in Chicago was a little bit different with the lines, 296 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 4: with the people like we lived it, people cutting class 297 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 4: and skipping school to go get the shoes, then showing 298 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: up with their partners with the mismatch. I got one pair, 299 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 4: he got one pair, We both wearing a mismatching like, 300 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: so like, how did that feel to be on a cusp? 301 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 4: Like Jordan then built out a whole pop up for you. 302 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 4: You got the whole treatment going like you could be 303 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 4: from Chicago and then we live, but we live, and 304 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: so what we saw and now it's like it's your turn. 305 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 4: They about to do this for you, They about to 306 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 4: line up, They about to be like they already saying 307 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 4: their bootlegging the shoe and faky, like, how do that 308 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 4: feeld know? 309 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, this is your joint. No, 310 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: it's amazing. 311 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 5: Man. 312 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: Earlier today my friend Rick came through. He he gave 313 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: us some archival Jordans and whatnot. And it's crazy because man, 314 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: I used to be you know, I camp out. I 315 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: used to I used to go to sneaker pimps and 316 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, all these sneaker summits and you know, like 317 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: man to see and I'm still friends with all these people. Man, 318 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: we all from different walks of life. Man. That was 319 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: always that showed me early on, like man, what that 320 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: common ground can do? I can bring people together and whatnot. Like, man, 321 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm still cool with this dude twenty something years later. 322 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: And even to say he can come in and bring 323 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: some shoes and make sure that man, he helping me 324 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: with this. It's like I ain't do this by myself, man, 325 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: Like I had people like y'all to look up to 326 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: and people that you know, just I can depend on 327 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: and whatnot. So man, it's just I love these moments man, 328 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: hundred percent. 329 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 5: When you was younger, used to sketch Ninja turtles dred percent. 330 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: They don't understand the turtles and you know all the time. 331 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: How was that for you just starting off and just 332 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: really breaking them sketches down and you can draw man 333 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: at high level? 334 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: It was a process, man. It was like every year 335 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: just getting better, you know, like man, trial and error. 336 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: My parents they didn't want me to go to school 337 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: for art because you know, at the time, my parents 338 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: are uh they came from Nigeria, they immigrated here, so 339 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: I first generation and so you know that was just like, man, 340 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: they worked so hard to get here. They're like, man, 341 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: we're not letting you go to school for art. Man, 342 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna go to school for you know, business marketing, 343 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: which was cool too. That that was a good you know, 344 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: like to get to the money now for sure. Yeah, 345 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. So just one of those things in 346 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: life where yeah, you just gotta keep keep going. Man, 347 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna fall down, you gotta get back up. 348 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 4: Man, how was that having your Nigerian parents they wanted 349 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 4: you to do something bigger or whatever, but like, you 350 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: got this passion for art. So how did it feel, 351 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, when you when you 352 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: started your first brand and you present. 353 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: It's like pops, Mom, like you know what I'm saying, 354 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: I got this, Like how was that like? Leading up 355 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: to you scared to tell them, like how was it? Well? 356 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: I mean, my dad passed away when I was like 357 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: fifteen in high school and it was just my mom 358 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to, you know, do right by 359 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: her mom. I got two little sisters, I got an 360 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: older brother like you as well know. But it was 361 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: just like a lot of things I did both, you know, 362 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people don't do that now. 363 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: You know, these kids growing up now and nothing saying 364 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: old or nothing. It's just like I feel like the. 365 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: New old and bro, I'm definitely yeah. I definitely that college. 366 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: I don't know what age groups and stuff. 367 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: I see this crazy now, but you know, when we 368 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: were coming up, we would do both. Like man, I 369 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: would go to school and I had a job, you know, 370 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: like I had I was on the basketball team, but 371 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: I still had a job. I went to school, like 372 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: you could do multiple things, you know, to push your 373 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: passion and whatnot. Sometimes you have to do what you 374 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: don't want to do to do what you would like 375 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: to do or you know, and it's just like I 376 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: try to practice that like oh man, like it's a 377 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: privilege and how our word things like I get to 378 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: do this versus I gotta do this and whatnot. So 379 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I think again, just with time, 380 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: like things things can change. Just got to keep at 381 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: it and whatnot. You know, tell us about mister young 382 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: oh Man shot mister young Man. That dude. He changed 383 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: my life. Mananged, I was gonna quit drawing, and he 384 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: was like, man, bro like don't you know like people 385 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: like man, people designed shoes for Nike, you know, people 386 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: make movies and comic book like, man, you could do whatever, 387 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: Like why would you stop? Because you know, at the time, 388 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: I was in high school and I ain't know you 389 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: could be no artist or nothing. I've never been to 390 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: a gallery before. I never really probably been in like 391 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: one of the two museums on field trips. I didn't 392 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: know like people actually could take something with this talent 393 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: and whatnot. And it was just like, man, what he saw. 394 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: I didn't have my sketch book no more. He was 395 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: always like, you know, he literally stopped me. He was like, yo, 396 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: let me show you. And his brother worked for Nike, 397 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: and he was like, man, my brother did this and this, 398 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: and then he showed me the boom. Doocks you know 399 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: the dude from the boom? Do he from a homewood? 400 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: That's why on the TV show, I think it say 401 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: Crest the Wood, like he made a heat combined Hazel 402 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: Crest and Homewood together they Crestlewood. That's fine. I did 403 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: not know that. Man. 404 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 5: He changed my life. 405 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: Man, Like if I wasn't doing I was doing, I 406 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: would be a history teacher because of him, because I 407 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: just know the important to just telling people's past, like man, 408 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: not not you know, knowing what happened before you. And 409 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: that's why infinite archives. We just always try to pay 410 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: homage to the past and like man like like y'all 411 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: opened so many doors for like pees and like man 412 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: Jordan's bran, like I remember that time, like that commercial 413 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: Jordan's seventeen and like even the sixteen, like every day, 414 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: like I remember that time, man, what y'all started, And 415 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean I got to be honored. That got to 416 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: be like something that man people know about. You know. 417 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think me and cute influence, like 418 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: nobody wore the clothes and the shoes the way me 419 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: and closing and shoes like we wore the do rags 420 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: and the head bands and shout that's out walking around 421 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: like like as we're going to Vincent, going player your 422 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 2: seals with a do rag ahead, man, when Jordan's uh, 423 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: they had to like kind of like they won't. 424 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 5: Do rags with their little We rocked it like an 425 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 5: everyday guy from. 426 00:17:55,040 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: The Sweat the Lord Joint like all them and some 427 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: of the pictures in it. 428 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 4: In your magazine that you recreated from some of the 429 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 4: older stuff like the slam kicks. Like we was laughing 430 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 4: about it. But me and him both we waring. I'm 431 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 4: wearing his jersey, he wear in my jersey. Both got 432 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 4: big crazy chains on shout out to a TV. 433 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: I think my boy Teva shot that man a few 434 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: years ago. I got a pinky ring, gone, it's do rags, 435 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: it's hats. It was it was culture. 436 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 4: It was like we was the little bros of AI 437 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: and we were representing that to the fullest and we 438 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 4: had no clue how much it was connecting to our 439 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 4: you know, to our home environment and everything like that. 440 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: On the mother left because it was no social media 441 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: and stuff. Crazy because I just seen that photo shoot 442 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: Playboy CARDI, you know, shout the Playboard CARDI did with 443 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: the reverse jerseys, and then made me think about what 444 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: y'all did the Clipper the Slam magazinea reverse clipper joint 445 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: with old them and all them all that shouts to 446 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: old him too. He was he was cold. 447 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: But the thing is we did that prior to that, 448 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 4: the Slam magazine. That wasn't like what two thousand or 449 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 4: two thousand and one now of. 450 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: Two thousand and one, because I think it came out 451 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 1: the beginning of two thousand and two. 452 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, we did that with the man like 453 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: were like, yeah, yeah, pretty much like we got our 454 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 4: jewelry one and they were like, I remember me having 455 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 4: my pink ring on it. 456 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: I remember me myself thing I shouldn't have this something, 457 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: but I just didn't. 458 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: We used to be like rebellion said, photo shoots because 459 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: you know the natural photo shoots. 460 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 5: We have you standing there like Superman. 461 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we stuff bro the joint, the joint you 462 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: had with Kevin Garnett Man. That was that was that was, 463 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: that was that was we won. We won. 464 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: We was like rebellious of every phol shoot. But it 465 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: was always fun and we always stay the person. 466 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: Different Ai Man like Man, you had the trying to 467 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 4: be like time as little brothers on that he he 468 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 4: walked so we could run. 469 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: Tell us about the pivot to fashion, when you when 470 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: you pivot and more into fashion and about Falling start. 471 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: Oh man, damn, how y'all know about Falling the Stars 472 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: research on that I met Man, I was a brand 473 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: it kind of I started and sneakers, you know, I 474 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: was a collector. I just love shoes and you know, 475 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: you want to get fresh man. You got the shoes. 476 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: Now you got to get the gear and whatnot. So 477 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: it was more so like instead of complaining about what 478 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: I didn't see. And again, I think Falling Stars was 479 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: kind of the seeds to Infinite Archives. Falling Stars was 480 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: like it was for to pay homage to people that 481 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: people forgot about it and whatnot. You know, Like I 482 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: think the first shot we made was what could have 483 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: been with Kevin Garnett and Stephan Marberry And it was like, 484 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, Stephan Marberry left and he did he didn't 485 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: stay there. It was more so like they had a 486 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: dynamic duel, like what could have happened? Yeah, like if 487 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: these dudes would have had some more years together. Yeah, 488 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: like that would have been crazy. So it was more 489 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: so just and informing people, you know, about the past 490 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: and whatnot. So I want to make things with purpose, 491 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: Like I don't just want to make things just to 492 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: make things, you know, It's more so like if I 493 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: got a reason to. 494 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love how the world has has in such 495 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 2: a way because we never thought about like we wanted 496 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: to shoot. We never thought about like who put in 497 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 2: details to make the shoe or we want the iPhone. 498 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 5: We never thought about who put the apps on that 499 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 5: make it possible for. 500 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: It to be Now in this day and age, man, 501 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 2: you really getting to see the guys like you and 502 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: Don c and Virgil, guys who just being creative and 503 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: coming from our crib. 504 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, No, I mean Chicago, man. We tell 505 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: we got some of the best man people in the world. Man, 506 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: I think anybody who doing something in this world, they 507 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: got somebody from Chicago on their teams. And I always 508 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: tell people that, like, I never came across no one 509 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: who doing a made that don't got somebody from Chicago 510 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: on their team. So we know, So I just try 511 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: to you know, I tell people all the time like 512 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: that's why always Highlight. Man, he'll crass where I'm from, 513 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: country Club Hills, Hazel Crash, Chicago. 514 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: You don't even notice how Chicago people so prideful about 515 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 4: being from the shop all of us. You would say 516 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 4: that about me. 517 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: He get tired of it. But it's just like we 518 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: we wear that with a bad look. 519 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 4: She's behind the scenes shaking her head like yes sometime, 520 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 4: Like I mean, if you was from here, you might 521 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 4: understand it a little more and you might be more 522 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 4: like me. But I'm just trying to tell you, like 523 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 4: being from here and coming up out of here and 524 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: raising up out of here and doing something like, boy, 525 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 4: you know. 526 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: What you gotta be. You feel what I'm saying. 527 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: You know what you gotta be, Like, really come up 528 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: out of this and rid this and do this like boy, 529 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 4: like how they say they say that about New York. 530 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 4: But if you can make it at the crib in Chicago. 531 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: Boy, you shout out to New York. Man, New York 532 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: got amazing la. You know a lot of major cities, man, 533 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: and but I think Chicago, Man, we're right in the middle. Man, 534 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: were in the Midwest, so we get the pool from Man. 535 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: We know New York people that were right there La Man, 536 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: you know down South, Like we got connections with everyone, 537 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: so we we connect a lot of people, I feel 538 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: like and whatnot. 539 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: So hey tell me this right RSVP Gallery, Man, what 540 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: does that mean to you? And and man, how much 541 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: did that helped you get to where you are right 542 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 4: now in this whole journey? 543 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: Man, that's like the best university I've ever been to. Man, 544 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: Like I learned so much from them, Man, from that time, 545 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: from the people I met. It was very inspiring too, 546 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: because Man, that was the first time in my life 547 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: I was meeting people younger than me. I was like, 548 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: damn man, they kind of going crazy, like they kind 549 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,239 Speaker 1: of like, man, like I need to step my shit out. 550 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 551 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: Like, Man, I'm like twenty five, but I'm meeting people 552 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: that's like eighteen nineteen that know how to do photoshop 553 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And I'm like, I got just like, man, 554 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: shout out to Mike Wax, Mike Carson, Man, Ill Roots Man, Zach, 555 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: my Boy, Max Man, the Lately Man, everybody. So many 556 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: people that came up out of there. Man, that's just 557 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: like man like Man, It's kind of it's like it's 558 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: like the X Man, like Charles Xaber like it's like 559 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: everybody there did something, like they in their own way 560 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: and whatnot. We're all different, Like nobody was the same. 561 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: Nobody did the same thing. Yeah, like some Avengers man 562 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: for real. Man, it's like, man, it's like and Don 563 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: and Verger just had that vision. Man. Like that's why 564 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 1: I like, I can never thank them dudes enough, man, 565 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: because it was just, Man, I did everything from taking 566 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: out the garbage to wiping windows to buy into running 567 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: the Twitter Instagram account. Like they let me do so 568 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: many things, you know, and I learned so much on 569 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: someone else's time that Like, Man, I always like, Man, 570 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: I just thank them so much for that, man. Yeah, 571 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: like that's family for life. 572 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 2: Like forever tell us the first time you met Vergil 573 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 2: and you met don C. And I know that don 574 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: C one of the things you took from dyn Ce. 575 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: He's a walking history book. Yeah, yeah, what is one 576 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: of the things that you took from Virgil? 577 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 5: Oh? 578 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: Man? 579 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 5: As well as you telling us about the first time 580 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 5: you mad? 581 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: He kind of he got that Chicago mentality too, just 582 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: in a more chill way. But he used to do, man, 583 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: he ain't letting nothing hold him back. He would do 584 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: and then everything he wouldn't overthink things, like, man, if 585 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: you had you had a good idea, he'd be like, 586 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: let's do it, you know, like he would just be 587 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: ready to go or ready to at least try it 588 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: out or something. So it's always like, man, don't be 589 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: scared to fail and try things out. They just ideas, 590 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, they're supposed to be put out there in 591 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: the world. We don't own any of them, you know. 592 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 1: So And as far as your meeting Don the first time, Man, 593 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: I ain't work at RSVP at I have some Falling 594 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: Star shirts out. 595 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 5: Man. 596 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: I was one of them people. I was always prepared, man, 597 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: So I had my backpack with me. I always have 598 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: my shirts. I seen Don at RSVP one day and 599 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I got this. I knew he 600 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: was into sports, and I gave him the Kevin Garnett 601 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: with the Marberry joint on there, and he was like, 602 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: oh man, it's fresh man, thank you. And even that, 603 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: it's like before he didn't know me. And I'm just 604 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: watching them on Tumblr and and you know, the Internet 605 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: and whatnot, and I'm like, man, don see though something 606 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: I made was fresh, you know. Even them words in 607 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: itself gave me inspiration to just you know, keep going 608 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: and be like, man, that's why, man, you gotta when 609 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: you see somebody, man, you just gotta give him that 610 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: positive energy. 611 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: Man. 612 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: That's what Donald even before he knew me, you know, 613 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: that's how I knew. He a real dude, Like he 614 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: ain't know me from nothing, and he took the time 615 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: to hear me out and whatnot. And then a few 616 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: years later I'm working there, you know. So it's like 617 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: and then with Virgil, he was always on road and whatnot, 618 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: so like I remember one day he came through and 619 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, man, Virgil came to the store 620 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: and whatnot, and he said he liked my Jordan's had 621 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: some four is on. It's like when the retros wasn't 622 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: coming out that much, like that bad joints. Yeah, He's like, 623 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: oh I need those. I was like, I can get 624 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: them for you. I used to have like multiple. If 625 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: I like a shoe, I get like two or three 626 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: of them because it's like, man, I probably want to 627 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: wear this for a while if I like something like 628 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: it's like, oh I want to wear this for a while. 629 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I can get you a period. 630 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 5: He's like, I bet that's how I mean. 631 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: Tell George, we tell Joe, we need three of the same. 632 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: We got a World one on the court, we got 633 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: Word one on the street, and then we got to 634 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: put one up in the closet just in case something. 635 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: You don't know. When that started, cool great cool grade. Yeah. Yeah, 636 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: that was like that was like ground break. Yeah, Like 637 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: we was like, what the what are these? 638 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 4: He did it first. He was like both because I 639 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 4: hadn't got home yet. He got he got up his body. 640 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: He's like, bro, you've seen him grades talking about some grades. Jo. 641 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: He's like, bro, he like, I'm about to work like 642 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: five periodies right now. 643 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 4: As soon as I got to your whole man, oh no, 644 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: they like, yeah, you can't wear these until such and 645 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 4: such tun on TV rip or Bibby already got ripping. 646 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: Bibby was the they was. They was nuns. They was 647 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: all I remember some Joys too. They would listen, okay, 648 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: it was always ripped and Bibby. They would do it. 649 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: They would be like, all right, I can't wear it. 650 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: Then you go look at the Games of the Night 651 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 4: and it's like they got they got you got me twisted. 652 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: But like when them cool grades came, Bro, that was 653 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 4: the first pair where it was like, oh yeah, I 654 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 4: need about six of these because Jesus is about to 655 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 4: be heavy and rotation. 656 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: Man, I used to get shoot. I worked at Athletes 657 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: when I was in high school, and I thought I 658 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: was on because I'll get the shoes like maybe like 659 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: five or ten days early or something. Man, I'm sorry. 660 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: I would ditch school and just walk around, you know, 661 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: like the people be having their doors open. I would 662 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: just keep walking back and forth so they could see 663 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: I got the new Jordan. So I just remember the 664 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: time trying to do something like I'm just trying walking 665 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: past the door, like like he don't even know, He's 666 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: just trying to stunt on you. 667 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 2: I tell like, no disrespect to none of the other 668 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: shoe companies, and even no disrespect to Nike, even though 669 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: I know Nike is Jordan's tap. But there's no brand 670 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: ever in history like Jordan brand. The way you feel, 671 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: the way you are, how they treat you, how the 672 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: red Corpi get rolled out for you. Being next to 673 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 2: a person like Michael Jordan's. It's like none others tell 674 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: us about Let's get to it, because my feet is feeling. 675 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: So good right now with these shoes. It gives me 676 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: that old. 677 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 5: Feeling back, you know what I'm saying. 678 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: So just take us through the process, like start to 679 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: finish of just like how you just start really just 680 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: creating this shoe and how you really wanted it the 681 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: way you want it. 682 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: Man, first and foremost. Man Again, I want to meet Wilson, 683 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: the man who created this shoe, who gave his shoe life. 684 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: Shout out to Man, Wilson smith Man, the legend, Man 685 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: for forever. Man. He retired this year too. You retired 686 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: this year, but I feel like he not really retired. Man, 687 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: He's still gonna be working on stuff. I talked to him, yeah, 688 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, and just still working. Man. He like one 689 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: of them people. Man, he always working on something. I 690 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: always got an idea, man, and yeah, he just man, 691 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: an amazing human being first and foremost and whatnot. So 692 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: that was really special to me. So I want to 693 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: meet him. When I first started, you know, idolizing the 694 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: ideas and whatnot, and you know, he showed me this 695 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: the first like model, the off white. It was kind 696 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: of like turning cause of old age. And that's when 697 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: I seen like the mid soul. I was like, oh, 698 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: I kind of liked that color and whatnot, and I 699 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: was already thinking of Virgil and Don that I kind 700 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: of wanted to be tan. I even came in there 701 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: with a verges four is on or whatever, so I 702 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's where the translucent kind of soul 703 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: came from. And man, even the bottom I knew, I 704 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: want to pay homage to you guys man and all 705 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: the people that made this shoe. What it was. The commercial, 706 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: It was just like I wanted to tell all these 707 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: different story so like everyone and not so much everyone, 708 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: but everyone that had a that could relate, could see 709 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: themselves in this in some way or whatever. Feel like, 710 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: oh man, I remember what that feel like, that feeling 711 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: and whatnot, whatever that is for you, whether it be 712 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: oh the metal plate you know, or the the CD 713 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: wrong the digital aspect of or the briefcase. But I 714 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: did the different box to show like the archival part 715 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: of that where the box was fired. 716 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: Archive, where you made the whole throw back, even though 717 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 4: you can't get the briefcase because that's gonna take the price. 718 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: When the briefcase came only came with the hot tops. Man, 719 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: the briefcase did it come with the loads. So I 720 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 1: was like I wanted to stay true to that too. 721 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I could have did the briefcase, but 722 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: it was more so like, man, a briefcase, and I 723 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: want to save people money. I'm not gonna lie. I'm again, 724 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm a briefcase. You know. Yeah, it's like, yeah, I said, no, 725 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: dudes who used that briefcases like a hog clipper clipper case. 726 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: Cut them here with the clipper case. Even the CD wrong. Like, man, 727 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: it was just like it was just a time you music. 728 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: You know, this whole shoe was inspired talking to Wilson 729 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: and watching those old DVDs and remembering them even like 730 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: when it came out, it was like music, fashion, sports, 731 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: even jazz and whatnot, and man, it was just a 732 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: combination of all these things. I was like, oh, how 733 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: can I make my own version of that and it 734 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: but still pay homage to the past. But the whole 735 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: thing was past, present, future, even for the next generation. 736 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 5: I was telling that. 737 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, these days we wearing these 738 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: new shoes, and the and the and the material they 739 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: use is just so different. Like when I put these 740 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: shoes on, it feel like one of them, the old 741 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: school Jordan's High. 742 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 5: I feel, yeah, for sure, just felt like it was 743 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 5: just history. 744 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, no it matters, man. That's I'm saying, like I 745 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: think all that matters. And again I want to highlight that. 746 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: Man like man just just like lean into it and 747 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: whatnot and shout out to man rest in peace. DJ 748 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: Clark camp Man Man. He he didn't want to the 749 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: first people are called when I got this, when I knew, 750 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, man, they're gonna let me 751 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: make this. Man, like what you think I should do? Man, 752 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking of, you know, changing I'll talk about 753 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: it a little bit. I was gonna change the sock. 754 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna make the sock more like high tech, 755 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: more like shout out to Kobe, of course to Kobe, 756 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: but like his like Kobe for is the line. And 757 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: I was trying. I was playing with these like different 758 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: comforts and whatnot and make him, trying to make it interchangeable. 759 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: But it didn't really connect. And then when I talked 760 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: to Clark Man, he was like, man, make everything O 761 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: g like man, you know, he was like make everything 762 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: oh g Man even hit him with the CD. 763 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: Rhum. 764 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, where they gonna play the CD? 765 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: He was like, it don't matter I never forget that man. 766 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: You know, Man, no, he like man, he like he 767 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: didn't He was the realist, nicest human being on earth 768 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: and like man like, I was like I bet if 769 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: what Clark say goes man, I was like I bet. 770 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: And then that's when I just got in that gear, 771 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: like a bet. I gotta make this all og, but 772 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: put a twist on. It's something that even Jordan could 773 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: a war back then, y'all go the war back then. 774 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: It's something y'all won't want to wear it today and 775 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: even as we get older, like, oh man, I would 776 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: still wear this. It's a clean, nice shoe that everyone 777 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: can partake in. 778 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 4: So when you wanted to design of this shoe, right, 779 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, We're sitting here like you 780 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 4: gotta pop up. It's called two thousand and two, Like 781 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 4: tell me about like what you what you put into 782 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 4: like the two thousand and two hoops. 783 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: Era, the swag, the vibe, the culture, like what inspired 784 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: you with with with all of that again, I just 785 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: wanted to get that vibe of two thousand and two. 786 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: You see, man, we got you know, you'll go into 787 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: a city sports mom and pop store, all the shoes 788 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: was out on display, and now it was to the 789 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: point where you have to start selling in displays after everybody, 790 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, Like I wanted to get that vibe again 791 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: and show all the shoes that came out in two 792 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: thousand and two. That was so people can be reminded 793 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: of that era and whatnot, and and you know, just 794 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: in the history. You know, I won't give too much 795 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, but yeah, it's a lot of 796 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: history in here too, and I just wanted to get people. 797 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 4: For me, it tailed me back because it takes me 798 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 4: too time. Like everybody as asked me a lot, like 799 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 4: what was your favorite team you ever played on? I 800 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 4: played on four five different teams, and for me, the 801 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 4: Clippers is always gonna be a special They hold a 802 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: special place because. 803 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: That was our first. 804 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 4: But not only was it our first, like that was 805 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 4: like for it to be our first, that was the 806 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 4: one team that all of us can come together and 807 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 4: we can we can relate, like bro from that point on, 808 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 4: I never played on the team like that again in 809 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 4: my career, you know what I'm saying, Like never, Like 810 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 4: I'm talking about from the. 811 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: Basis of like how together we were we were. You 812 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: gotta because once you get to. 813 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 4: Other teams like once you get twenty three twenty four, like, 814 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 4: oh now you're bet. You might bring your best friend 815 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 4: or your homeboy, your uncle, whoever it is that people 816 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 4: bring their brother or whatever. But like when we got there, 817 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 4: he's eighteen four of us, Me, Corey, lamar Odom Dueling, 818 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 4: we all nineteen. So like our best friends, Muget, all 819 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 4: our best friends are in college, so it was like 820 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 4: if you see one of us, you don't see at 821 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 4: least two others. And we was each other's homeboy, so 822 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 4: it wasn't like we had that buffer where we had 823 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 4: our parlers because everybody was our punic was in college. 824 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 4: So it was like that was the one team where, 825 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 4: for real, it didn't matter if it was on the 826 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 4: road or in la if you saw one of us, 827 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 4: you was gonna see at the very least one to two. 828 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: More of us. Like we're all over there, seven to 829 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: eight deep. 830 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 4: So it was like it was I didn't have that 831 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 4: at no other point, you know what I'm saying, Like 832 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 4: we had four five, but it was never as. 833 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: Many all the time, like it was he and his wife. 834 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 5: They had their oldest daughter. We always call her our daughter. 835 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: That was the one kid we were there. 836 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 4: For like this, like we all cinta Monica Hospital and 837 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 4: were like, you know, we're kids, but were like, this 838 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 4: is crazy. 839 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: It's our baby coming. Hey. 840 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 4: But speaking of the you know, speaking of the two thousands, 841 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 4: and you know the inspiration behind this shoe you you 842 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 4: talked about. You know, Bibby was the first one today 843 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 4: beat the shoes man, and and they're actually rocket because 844 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: we know what he do. Bibby gone disobey and he 845 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 4: gonna rock them joints first, whether Jordan Brand say so 846 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 4: or not. So we had to call our boy in 847 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 4: bring Mike Bibby to the stage. Man, go ahead, what 848 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 4: U bro? 849 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: You right here? 850 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 4: Bro, everybody see Mike Bibby, Jordan's Brad represented for congratulations, 851 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 4: represented since nineteen ninety nine. 852 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: What to do? Bro? I'm sorry ninety eight, My bad 853 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: ninety eight. Bibby. 854 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: It's your fault that you messed these guys ankles up, man, 855 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: You wearing them low cut. 856 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: Out the dems you you're on and doing all that 857 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: when you was wearing them. You're chilling in his day 858 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: and I almost tore my knee up. 859 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 6: So Mike Torre is right, So you know you give 860 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 6: you the little book at the start the season, like 861 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 6: these are the shoes that were playing in and off season, 862 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 6: and you just know the colors. 863 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: You wan't to change anything, let me know, and you know, 864 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: he said it was like the five. There was that 865 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: that time we were getting the five, the nine and 866 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: the shoes and stuff like that. And I just told him. 867 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, do you think you could cut them? 868 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: He's like, what do you mean cut him? I said like, 869 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: do you think you can make him a low top? 870 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 5: And he just he was like, yeah, I think we could. 871 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: Do a low toploded his mind when you said, and 872 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,399 Speaker 1: after that it was they made him in the low tops. 873 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: That's the year when I got the five lows, the 874 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: nine lows, the two lows all that. 875 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 5: That's when they came with the red and blue jump. 876 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: I remember when you had them. We gotta wear different 877 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: colored shoes. You get more shoes made for. 878 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 6: You if you wear different colors. Like if you get 879 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 6: a black beer made for you, you know how they 880 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 6: make it with black beer. You get black beer and 881 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 6: they'll make a whole bunch of pairs of that shoe 882 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 6: for you. So I was like, we got to mix 883 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 6: it up. 884 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: We gotta get different colors. 885 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,959 Speaker 6: We gotta get white, we gotta get black, we gotta 886 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 6: get purple and white, we gotta get white and gray. 887 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: So I was trying to figure out, see. 888 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 6: To get more dudes made of the same kinds. 889 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: You know. But he's what he's saying is all of 890 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: us was doing. So what I would do. 891 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 4: They would send us a couple of samples during like 892 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 4: during the summer light right before the season, and I 893 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 4: would always get these three and then when they come 894 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 4: I would say, these two don't work. So you got 895 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 4: to send me some of some other sids to the 896 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 4: other sits, and I'm gonna send some other colors with them. 897 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 4: So now I'm gonna have like six instead of three, 898 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 4: six different flavors instead of three. So that's what he's 899 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 4: speaking of. Honestly, it's funny. That's what I did with the. 900 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: Right there. You got a tough right there. Let me 901 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: let me see me get tough right there. Mine was 902 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: more of They had a gray thought and the blacks, 903 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, so I had that much black and mind. 904 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: Now your just purple, your hair the purple size, yea. 905 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: I look at the shoes in the background. You're the 906 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: sticker roun. Yeah, sneaking room. Not Now, this is legendary. 907 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: I know I already know s something. No, that's crazy. 908 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: Look at that man, that's insane. Man, show some peas off, Man, 909 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: show that man some peas. 910 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 5: That's the East Wing. 911 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: He still got you got corters. You know, he got 912 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: multiple quarters that I see them. Jordan eighteens, I see 913 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: the eighteen. No, that's crazy, white and red cherry love. 914 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: Everything is this guy. He got the he got the 915 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: he got the back to the Future joint. He gonna look, 916 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: he gonna have this. Oh wow, No, that's crazy. 917 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 6: He's like the one of the first ones that I 918 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 6: got that made Wow. 919 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: Now he got everything. Jee Let me see, man, let 920 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: me see what I got in there. I got the 921 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: fourteen fourteen? Oh man, is that with purple? Oh nah? 922 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: Getting black and purple all black? Crazy? I got I 923 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: got some stuff in here. Man. We gotta pull up 924 00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: on him. We got pull up on them one of 925 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: the we did. Yeah, y'all time. Man, y'are welcome anytime? 926 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 4: All right, Bro, you just wanted to pull you in 927 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: right quick so we can rap with you because you're 928 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 4: a part of this too, and you you was part. 929 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: Of the Inpo. 930 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 4: I appreciate it, man, Thank y'all, Mike Bibby, everybody, Mike Baby, 931 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 4: appreciate you, bro. 932 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 2: One thing Bibby didn't say, like back in our day, 933 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 2: it's not like today. It's like they can wear any 934 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: colored shoe they want. They can be red and be 935 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 2: wearing light green or any yellow. And back in our day, 936 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: it kind of had to match with our jersey, and 937 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 2: it had to if one player wore black shoes, the 938 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 2: whole team had to wear black shoes, whether you had 939 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 2: white jerseys or not. And if you wore your red, 940 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 2: you have to you have to wear black shoes. It 941 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: was just that was just the rule of the lead 942 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: back then. But now you see these kids now they 943 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 2: have bright orange yellow pen like they wear any kind 944 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 2: of color that they want and not matching with the 945 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 2: actually what they got on. But back then we had 946 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 2: we was kind of limited, like Bibby was trying to 947 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 2: get into, it was like limited to that because Sacramento 948 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 2: they wore black shoes with their white. 949 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: Joey Yeah, every they with the purple jersey. 950 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 2: And that's why he was saying, like, man, we gotta 951 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 2: switch to I guess some white shoes. So I can 952 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 2: get some more flavors coming. 953 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: Well, you know. With that being said, got to ask you, guys, man, 954 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: what's your favorite Jordan Q And what's your favorite Jordan man? Man? 955 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: My favorite or your favorite pe? Rather, what was your 956 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: favorite p that you because you had a lot of 957 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: p an't have had a lot of pees, So I 958 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,439 Speaker 1: don't know. That's tough. I think I think I got mine, 959 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: But I want to hear what y'all gotta go to. 960 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 4: Like Phoenix, Phoenix, probably the Clippers, depend on which one 961 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 4: Phoenix the Clippers. 962 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: And then New York. Okay, what mottol was it? It 963 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: was all of them. 964 00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 4: Like I had fives, I had twos, I had had three, 965 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 4: like I went crazy like and the thing to make 966 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 4: those specific teams the best for me because they didn't 967 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 4: come those color ways. Like when I was in Miami 968 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 4: that was too close to the bulls, even though I 969 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 4: had the yellow. I had some crazy joints with some 970 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 4: yellow in them. But like when I was in Phoenix, 971 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 4: like that was foreign to anything Jordan had ever seen 972 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 4: purple orange, like you know what I'm saying. Then when 973 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 4: you went to New York, blue orange and white like 974 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 4: that was that was different than anything they had played with, 975 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 4: so it was like anything I got was like, oh snap, 976 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 4: these are crazy now. Even when I got through Orlando, 977 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 4: the white and blue thirteens, the white and blue, the 978 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 4: black and blue thirteens, I had, like it was just 979 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 4: different flavors. 980 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: Didn't you ask some like white and red nines too? 981 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hell yeah. I think those clippers. Those were 982 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 4: the clippers. Those were crazy, yeah. And I actually had 983 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 4: a pair of those that when I was working for 984 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 4: the Piss and Stanley Johnson wore in the game. I 985 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 4: gave him a pair of wear in the game. It 986 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 4: was was like, yeah, those was those was crazy too. 987 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 5: Mine was the the orange and white. Jordan's them was 988 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 5: like the best ones. 989 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: Even like how the soul it was clear and kind 990 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: of over the orange. 991 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 2: I had an all black per trimmed and orange had 992 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 2: the orange twenty three. 993 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: On the back and I didn't know that was orange 994 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: orange and it. 995 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 5: Had like the orange stitch on them. 996 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: You said the thirteen nine thirteen like that. 997 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 4: I had the thirteen and I had some twenties like 998 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 4: that because my year in Phoenix was when the twenties 999 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 4: came out, so I had them custom twenties. I wore 1000 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 4: the regular ones at the All Star Game for the 1001 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 4: three point contest, but like when the playoffs came around, 1002 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 4: I had white and purple. Remember that strapped went around 1003 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 4: ankle and everything. White black ones with the orange trim 1004 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 4: and the purple trim with all the little you know. 1005 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 1: The little graffitia or whatever it was on the set. 1006 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 2: I'll tell you a good moment. I know you probably 1007 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 2: attended this great moment for us being on Jordan brand. 1008 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, you get these joy and have 1009 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: twenty three y'all on it. Yeah, the first time I 1010 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: seen twenty one oh on the I was like, this 1011 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 2: is crazy. 1012 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 5: We talked my numbers on this. 1013 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 4: We actually talked about that in Greece because it was 1014 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:19,760 Speaker 4: like to me, that was when being on the brand 1015 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 4: separated yourself from anybody else. 1016 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: Like I don't care. Everybody grew up. We all grew up. 1017 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: Like I get it. Business is business. 1018 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 4: When you get to the league, you gotta sign where, 1019 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 4: you gotta sign with this person off the most money 1020 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 4: you gotta go, So everybody can't be Jordan, and Jordan 1021 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 4: might not want everybody. 1022 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: That's the part of it too. 1023 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 4: So it's like but bruh, Like he said, we got chosen, 1024 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 4: We was blessed, We was Jordan Brand. Never in a 1025 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 4: million years did I feel like like that was the difference, bro, 1026 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 4: Like when we got them pees, I didn't need Like 1027 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 4: it would have been great to be good enough to 1028 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 4: get a signature athlete and get like how Mellow or 1029 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 4: CP or whoever got their own shoes Russ and all 1030 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 4: these guys. 1031 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: But we felt like we had. 1032 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 4: Our own shoes anyway, like by getting those pees and 1033 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 4: getting them in our team colors with our numbers on them, 1034 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 4: and like even after that, even beyond that, when you 1035 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 4: talk about this particular shoe to this day, the seventeen 1036 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:12,959 Speaker 4: was our shoe. 1037 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: We had a commercial. We had had commercial was our shoe, 1038 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: like so like it wasn't like this is the. 1039 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 4: Bro like that was the other part. Like we get 1040 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 4: to fly to and get a commercial, our first ever 1041 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 4: commercial period and it is directed by Spike Lee Man. 1042 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 4: We had our trailer trailers next month. I thought it 1043 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 4: was about to be like we're gonna have our song 1044 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 4: you got I got man right here too. We like 1045 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 4: we felt like movie stars, bro, Like, can you imagine 1046 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 4: at nineteen twenty minths old, you're getting this. 1047 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: Type of treatment. 1048 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 5: It's like in New York you from Chicago kids, this 1049 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,720 Speaker 5: show up, this is everything. 1050 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: It's like, bro, like hand picked me and now I'm 1051 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: about to do a commercial. Oh no, bro, tell you 1052 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: like seeing y'all and made it seem like we all 1053 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: made it, man, seriously, like I want to just get 1054 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: all y'all y'all flowers, man like honestly, Like again, I 1055 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: think y'all changed the culture so much man at that time, man, 1056 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: And it was like it wasn't seen before, Like you 1057 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: were saying, y'all photo shoots, man, the way the magazines 1058 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: used to come out, the way y'all interviews used to be, 1059 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: the way y'all have fun on the court, like y'all 1060 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: Like to your point, y'all talking earlier, it was like 1061 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: y'all was family, Like you could see that, you felt 1062 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: that you. I felt like, damn man, like, man, that's 1063 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: how I want to be with my friends. Man, I 1064 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: want to have fun like that. And like it wasn't 1065 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: y'all took. It wasn't all about just being serious in 1066 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 1: me and y'all gave personality to the game, you know, 1067 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: like and I just want to man, pay homage to y'all, 1068 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: and make sure that y'all know that. Like, Man, y'all 1069 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 1: appreciated it. Man, thank you so much for you being 1070 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: here doing this and coming to Chicago. Man and just man, Man, 1071 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 1: just believing in me. Man, that means a lot. 1072 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 2: Man. You know, like you from the Crib, So you know, 1073 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 2: as soon as you talk to like we already knew you, 1074 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, bro, whatever you and. 1075 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 1: I felt that like you, Mike, Mike reached out. Brohen 1076 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: he to Mike, Mike Man and it was crazy. I 1077 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: make sure Mike Mike got to shoes. Yeah, Like it was. 1078 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 4: Crazy though, Bro, that like all of this connectivity and 1079 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 4: I hadn't met like like J. J. 1080 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: May Like I had met j Maye and he know 1081 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: Rio from high school, but I hadn't met him until Greece. Yeah, 1082 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: that's crazy. I met you. 1083 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 4: I hadn't made you. It was like, how have we 1084 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 4: been in the same situations but just been missing each other? 1085 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that it was like everything 1086 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 4: happened when it was supposed to. It chimed in and 1087 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 4: so like for me, it's just it's like you say, 1088 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 4: this is the crib, Bro, I'm at the crib in 1089 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 4: Chicago and it's it's dope to me to know that 1090 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,439 Speaker 4: in any type of way that we had some type 1091 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 4: of impact or whatever, cause it's like we didn't hear 1092 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 4: plenty of stories and different things that Like, man, Bro, 1093 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 4: like I'm talking to Toylla and we did something with 1094 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 4: him and it was like just hear in different ways 1095 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 4: where you things that we do or have. 1096 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: Done had no clue the impact that it had. 1097 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 4: And like you know what I'm saying, you a walking 1098 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 4: testament to show like that you never know who you impacted. 1099 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 4: Like somebody gonna see this when we doing it, it 1100 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 4: is going to pack them some way, like watching your 1101 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 4: journey and hearing about how you as an artist you 1102 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 4: didn't you didn't know, you didn't raised up and made 1103 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 4: some of yourself and did and made good on it. 1104 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 4: So like, Bro, we salute you, and you know what 1105 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 4: I'm saying, and we privileged to be here, to be 1106 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 4: here to help you, and to know that we had 1107 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 4: any part in this in any type of way. 1108 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: Bro, real talk one hundred percent. 1109 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, no, it's definitely a blessing. I'm going to 1110 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,760 Speaker 5: ask you a question back to the shoe. 1111 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, was this something that you wanted to have on 1112 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 2: the shoe or put on the shoe that you had 1113 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:31,760 Speaker 2: to scrap. 1114 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 1: Nah, not really, to be honest, man, Jordan Brown, To 1115 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 1: be honest, man, this is like one of the perfect 1116 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 1: I hate using the word perfect. It was just a 1117 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: great collaboration, man. Yeah, like we both went back and 1118 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: forth to design team and a market and everyone really 1119 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: chimed in, like I didn't do this by myself, man, Like, 1120 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: it was one of those things. I had some ideas, 1121 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: they asked some ideas, and we kind of tried to 1122 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: welp them together. Like the whole point I think collaboration 1123 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,840 Speaker 1: is like, oh, you would do this again. Both parties 1124 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: got what they wanted out of the shoe, and we 1125 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 1: also talked about everything, and it was one of those 1126 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: things like, yeah, couldn't ask for a better story and 1127 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: partner with this and whatnot. And the man, I think 1128 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: it made a world of difference just being open to 1129 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: that both. Besides, so now it's been great. So I 1130 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: think it turned out exactly how I wanted it to. 1131 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm very excited. 1132 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 5: How is it like like you just mentioned, like, man, 1133 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 5: my last sixteen just went to Lebron. You watching these guys. 1134 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 2: On TV, like you've seen us on TV coming up. 1135 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 2: You've seen Lebron, Bibi, all these guys, Eddie Curry. 1136 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: And now it's crazy you're in the rim of that 1137 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 1: man you about when I first talked to you, Like, man, 1138 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: it's crazy, but just talk to. 1139 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 5: That's a real moment, Like not for sure, but. 1140 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: It's also bad. I always say like, man, with time, 1141 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: and hey, man, it's gonna be what it's gonna be. Man, 1142 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: So I knew, like eventually I was even with me 1143 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: having an art gallery and selling art to a lot 1144 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,439 Speaker 1: of people. Man, I used to listen to their music 1145 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: back in the day. Now I'm selling them art. Or 1146 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: I used to watch them play basketball or whatever football. 1147 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: Now I'm selling them art, you know. Or they rocking 1148 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: my clothes, or they rocking the shoes I'm making, or 1149 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,399 Speaker 1: I'm helping them consult with their business. It's like it's 1150 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 1: different ways to partner up with people and make things happen, 1151 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: versus just being like, hey, I ain't make it to 1152 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,800 Speaker 1: the NBA, you know, but y'all inspired me to do 1153 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: other things in life too. It wasn't like I didn't 1154 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, that didn't stop my goals and dreams or whatnot. 1155 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: So I always tell people like there's multiple ways to 1156 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 1: work with your idols and whatnot. In fact, I think 1157 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: recently a few years ago, I worked with a theaster 1158 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: Gates and Hiroshi who he does fragment and he's from 1159 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 1: Japan and whatnot. We made this charity T shirt. We 1160 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 1: raised money for the community for Chicago on the South Side, 1161 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 1: for the Rebuild Foundation. I got to work with two 1162 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: people that I respect and idolize, make something a great design, 1163 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: raise money for charity, do something for my community. And 1164 00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: it was like, man, that's possible. How many times can 1165 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 1: someone say that that they got to check all these 1166 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,360 Speaker 1: boxes all in one project. And that kind of showed 1167 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: me this is possible. You can do these things as 1168 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: long as you're being intentional with it and whatnot. So 1169 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: that's what I try to move with everything, like, oh, 1170 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 1: it's possible. 1171 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 4: You know, hey, tell me this, like when did you 1172 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 4: first come with the idea to come out with infinite archives, 1173 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 4: like you had the other situation, and how did you 1174 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 4: how did you progress into like I want to do 1175 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 4: infinite archives. I think I was I want to say frustrated. 1176 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 4: I'll say yeah, I'll say frustrated. 1177 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: I was frustrated with the time of people just wearing 1178 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: things and not knowing what it is, like just because 1179 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: the celebrity got it on, now they want it. But 1180 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: then you ask them a question like ay man, what 1181 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,360 Speaker 1: what rock band is that? Or what logo is that? 1182 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 1183 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 5: And they be like, I don't know. 1184 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: This person will here's something that's like, you know, it 1185 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: just wasn't sitting well with me. Instead of being the 1186 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: old person complaining about it and just you know, being mad, 1187 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,439 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, let me try to do something 1188 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: about it and let me feel make something that I 1189 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: feel good about it and hopefully other people feel the 1190 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,479 Speaker 1: same way. Where it's like, oh, let me inform people 1191 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: about the past and when we can make product that 1192 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: makes sense like this Jordan's seventeen, Like I feel like 1193 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 1: it made sense two thousand and two, that's the year 1194 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: where we were on. 1195 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's dope that you made. You know, 1196 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,720 Speaker 4: part of the brand is like how you take different 1197 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 4: years and you spotlight you know what I'm saying, it's 1198 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 4: part of I think that I think that's fired, you 1199 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like you said, because it speaks 1200 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 4: to the you know, you're still educating and informing and 1201 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 4: letting them know what you you know, what was going 1202 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 4: on at this point. But like like you said, it 1203 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 4: give you opportunities like two thousand and two to go 1204 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 4: back to the to the to the seventeen and make 1205 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 4: it capsule of that and then you know, tell stories. 1206 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,680 Speaker 4: So I think the way that you you you know, 1207 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 4: choose different years and go back and represent that, that's 1208 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 4: fired to me. 1209 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: Bro. 1210 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 2: Thank you appreciating you know, that's why guys like you 1211 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 2: be in a position of this because like you're so 1212 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 2: into the history and it's how it grew to this 1213 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 2: point and what was how you felt back then when 1214 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 2: it dropped to now to just try to bring that 1215 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 2: feeling back to everybody else again. 1216 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 1: Man, I know all that that feel like you've been 1217 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: lining up? 1218 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 5: Man, it was right, So you gotta start bench cut one. 1219 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 1: Okay, artist edition. 1220 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 5: I don't want to mess her name up. I think it's. 1221 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 1: Man, that's my homie from Chicago to Yes, it's all good. 1222 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:24,879 Speaker 1: That's my boy man. Yeah. Lauren Hazel, Lauren Halsey, she's 1223 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: a man man, Lauren Halsey. 1224 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1225 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: George George Connor, that's my homie. I just would have 1226 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 1: that's my three You gotta start one bench one cut man, 1227 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 1: we have fun, Like, let me get you some ship. Man. 1228 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 1: That's a tough one. 1229 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 5: Man. 1230 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 1: I can't take no shot or something. Man throw shot 1231 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: like I don't like that. You know, I don't think 1232 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: I can. Like you know, I love. 1233 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 2: I love all three of them. We ain't gonna say cut. 1234 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna say trade. They just got to trade, go 1235 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 2: to another team, that's all they still they still do this. 1236 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: Let's do this for him, come almost man, smoke on this. 1237 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 1: You know people artists, and let's go to this. 1238 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 4: Let's let's do his start bench, trade on his top 1239 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 4: five Jorge, and let's let him know. 1240 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: I no, hell no man, he want to know. Man, man, but. 1241 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 5: Bench or something? If you ain't gonna trade him. 1242 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: So man, well who start? I gotta start. Lauren Hawsey Man, 1243 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 1: she's amazing, man, She's She's changed my life the way 1244 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 1: I've seen things, her community, how she helps her community 1245 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,240 Speaker 1: and like puts her community and her people first before 1246 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 1: her even before her art sometime. But yeah, she's amazing. 1247 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: She's changed. Like every time I go to a studio, 1248 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm super inspired. I see something like, oh, man, I 1249 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 1: gotta go back to the drum war. I figured it out. Man, 1250 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 1: she's just like and she's just a good human being too. 1251 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 1: At that so you to start six Man of the Year, 1252 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: six Man of the Year, say you go man? As 1253 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: of course, Man, he got a big show coming up 1254 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 1: next year in la In February with David Kordanski, shoutut 1255 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: to David Kordansky. 1256 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 5: Put George at the end of the bench. 1257 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: George Condo. He allegend, he allegend, he got, he got, 1258 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,960 Speaker 1: he had Hall of Famer. That's why I like George. Okay, 1259 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: touch George Condo. 1260 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 5: That's a shout out to them. 1261 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,919 Speaker 1: Three for sure. I played that. I think I played 1262 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: that the right way. Hey tell me this, how dope 1263 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,359 Speaker 1: is it for you? You know, like I said, you're 1264 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 1: a Chicago kid. 1265 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 4: Man like you, you didn't have galleries and situations all 1266 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 4: over the world in Japan like I saw you and 1267 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 4: she had a gallery pop up. 1268 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: How was that to be? 1269 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 4: You know, a kid from the crib of Chicago, but 1270 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 4: you be traveling all over the world doing your thing. 1271 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: Well, Arden art has taken you literally around the world. Man, 1272 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: it's amazing. Man. I love I think, uh man, when 1273 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 1: you really see the world, and that's why I try 1274 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 1: to stress other people like, man, get out of travel, man, 1275 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: get that experience. I'm opening the gallery in Amsterdam. Anthony Gallery. 1276 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: Come to Amsterdam soon, shout out, Anthony Gallery, come to 1277 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 1: adam Yeah, Amsterdam. Yeah, we're doing Tokyo next year and 1278 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: then hopefully somewhere else in the States. I just I 1279 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: can't say yet, but but yeah, it feel good, man. 1280 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: I think you know, coming from Chicago, how you know, 1281 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 1: it looked kind of crazy when you know you're you know, 1282 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 1: you see someone traveling someone they be like, man, you 1283 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,359 Speaker 1: went all the way here, or you did this because 1284 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: some people don't, you know, fork and again changing our minds, 1285 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: sat till we get to do this first and saying 1286 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm tired. I don't want to get on the plane. 1287 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 1: We know, man, you know even East, saying like going 1288 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 1: into all these places we have been to, it's like 1289 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: some people don't even lead the neighborhood sometimes. So I 1290 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 1: got to be very fortunate and I'm happy, and I 1291 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 1: try to use the most of my time when I'm 1292 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,319 Speaker 1: there because I don't know if I'm gonna be back here, 1293 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 1: like so I try to make the most of my 1294 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,360 Speaker 1: time while I got it and whatnot. 1295 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you knocked Jordan Brand collab off your bucket list? Yeah, 1296 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 2: what is your next dream collaboration that you would like 1297 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 2: to pursue or. 1298 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 1: Dream collaboration and maybe a museum or something one day 1299 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: working with some museums, like finding a way to get 1300 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 1: more people in those spaces and whatnot, like being that 1301 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 1: bridge and people just don't know like when we was 1302 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,399 Speaker 1: growing up, like I didn't know like that you could 1303 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: just go to these galleries and openings and museums and whatnot. 1304 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: And like a shout out to Rashid Johnson. He got 1305 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: an amazing show at the Google Hind right now, and 1306 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 1: that's like one of the most surveyed shows like of 1307 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: recent years, Like so many people have gone there and whatnot. 1308 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: And man, he killed them and he took over the 1309 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: whole space. Man a black man, you know, like like 1310 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: really that's inspiring, man, like in its own way. You know, 1311 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: you got to take inspiration from when you see these 1312 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,479 Speaker 1: things and know that it could be possible and whatever 1313 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 1: you're doing and whatnot. So that's why I like, I 1314 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 1: just try to stress that a lot. So yeah, that'd 1315 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 1: be that'd be great. 1316 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 5: Let's go here. Top five Jordan. 1317 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 1: There you go. Five, Jordan's just models or like you're saying, 1318 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: like your top five, the top five Jordan's Uh, I say, 1319 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: Jordan's six. That's like number that's right, number one, that's 1320 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 1: he wanted to sell infrareds all day infrared. Maybe even 1321 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 1: the maroon two maroons nice. I like the white and 1322 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 1: maroon joints. It was always fired on me. Number two 1323 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: would probably be the four forest Fire. Number three probably 1324 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 1: the seventeens. I love the seventeens. You know, now again 1325 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 1: I got a special of course, now even more special. 1326 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: I gotta collapse, so but definitely I have those in 1327 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: high school lightnings in Carolina's uh North Carolina color A. 1328 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: And number four probably be uh. I like the sevenths. 1329 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 1: I like the Raptor seven up in here. They came 1330 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 1: out of two thousand and two as well. I love her. 1331 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: I had them, man, the shape and everything that was 1332 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 1: just the quality. Man, I don't know, man, the five 1333 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 1: runs and the clue no patent, others, the ones I 1334 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 1: like the ones, palelet no nothing. The elevens. I like 1335 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: the elevens, but you know at number five would be 1336 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 1: one You're right time, Yeah, so much with them yeah, yeah, 1337 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: number five would be the ones. You're right. 1338 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 4: So I want to ask you this when you like 1339 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 4: you talked about the Naike Department of Archives and how 1340 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 4: it influenced from your Eastern age and. 1341 00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 1: She hands us to shoot. 1342 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 4: Want you to, you know, tell me about what what 1343 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 4: what what you saw with the at the at the 1344 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 4: Nike Department of Archives that influenced it. 1345 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, first of all, the box, like how 1346 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 1: they handle like older products and whatnot and older like models, 1347 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 1: and like where the gloves came from. With the gloves. 1348 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,439 Speaker 1: They gave these black gloves. You gotta handle the shoe 1349 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 1: with the gloves. And it was I was like, okay, cool. 1350 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 1: You know, I'm an art dealer and we you know, 1351 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: we hired these companies to deliver the art and they 1352 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: say it's white glove delivery. So I was like, oh man, 1353 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,479 Speaker 1: we gotta treat this like it's a relic a piece 1354 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: of art. You said, white glove. Yeah, yeah, white gloves. 1355 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: So we put white gloves in there with the little 1356 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 1: brand in the DNA and like again, it was one 1357 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 1: of those things. I just like the history of it. 1358 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 1: When you go to DNA building, see all these old pictures, 1359 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 1: even a Wilson like talking to MJ and like them 1360 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: talking about the shoe and again to your point about 1361 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: the feeling, I just wanted to get at man. It 1362 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 1: really felt like okay, man, like these stories need to 1363 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 1: get out and whatnot. And it was like that was 1364 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: like the main thing. The Archive Building definitely. It's like, 1365 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 1: again that's one of my favorite places. Like if I'm 1366 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: on campus, I'm like, can I go to the our 1367 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Eye Building? Sometimes I can. Yeah, It's like can I go? 1368 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Cause it's like I just love history, man, Like I 1369 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 1: want to know and man, like you never know what 1370 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 1: can like spark your ideas, like just seeing something that 1371 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,320 Speaker 1: and that's what I think right now. Information is so 1372 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 1: readily available with like this infinite scroll on all these 1373 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 1: social media things that like everybody sees everything, so they 1374 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: think they know everything. But the information is going so 1375 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 1: fast that now you just saw a glimpse of it, 1376 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 1: but you don't dive into the information really, so you 1377 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 1: kind of know, but you don't. And it's like, man, 1378 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 1: taking the time to like learn that. The Archive Building, 1379 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 1: it's like you in a capsule, you know, like you 1380 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 1: can see all this right around you and you can 1381 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 1: look into it and jot it down and I can, 1382 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, follow up on a lot of these things. 1383 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 4: So I like this part too though, like once you 1384 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 4: so like watch it so again because it gives you 1385 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 4: that feel, that vibe. But it was the sick seen 1386 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 4: point five where you got that copper Yeah, yeah, remember 1387 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 4: the copper joints that came. I wanted to like this 1388 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 4: fire and then it goes into the blue and the black. 1389 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 4: But like I thought that copper point was a dope. 1390 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 4: Love nine to the one, the point five, Yeah, that 1391 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 4: was hard. That was a hard ship. Yeah, And I 1392 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 4: thought that was a dope, and I hadn't seen it 1393 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 4: until I put them on the day because I finally. 1394 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: Peeled it up. 1395 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 4: I hadn't peeled it out the whole time about it, 1396 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,760 Speaker 4: like a week. I didn't know that that was copper 1397 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 4: until today and I was like, that's hard. 1398 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: Just peel mine off in the core ride over, you know, 1399 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to just show people and again, I wanted 1400 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 1: to make something that man, y'all could wear it back then, 1401 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 1: MJ could wear back then, but also appreciate now and 1402 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 1: then as we get older, it's like, yo, these always 1403 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 1: gonna be fresh and clean. Man, It's not I feel 1404 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 1: like anybody. It's not a favoritism to any colors or anything. 1405 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 1: And you know, like, man, you could really throw an 1406 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: outfit together with these and I feel like, okay, cool, like. 1407 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,440 Speaker 2: Mad feeling because I've been waiting to ward these joints, 1408 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 2: so I was sight to come down, George. 1409 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1410 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 4: It means a lot, man, for real. We definitely appreciate 1411 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 4: being here. We live on location at the Jordan's pop up. Man, 1412 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,920 Speaker 4: y'all gonna see how it all had come together. But man, 1413 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 4: we had to sit down with my dog and you know, 1414 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 4: let him know it's all love and we appreciate him 1415 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 4: for appreciating nuts. 1416 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, It's all easy in the. 1417 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 4: Building, Infinite Archives, in the building, Jordan's seventeen pop up 1418 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 4: going down. 1419 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: This would have been doper for the cover to me. 1420 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and you got the seventeen. Let you know 1421 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 1: how much we had going on. 1422 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 4: I got elevens like like we were just bearing whatever, 1423 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 4: bro like it was so much going on. And then 1424 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,520 Speaker 4: of course you see y'all can zoom in on the 1425 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 4: Pinky Ring Invisible set. You hear me, Invisible set, Big 1426 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 4: boy sat is pinky ring at a photo shit