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Speaker 2: So when I asked about his offensive philosophy, Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: says that he is and I quote a believer in

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Speaker 2: the tradition of the West Coast offense end quote, and

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Speaker 2: then immediately mentioned a bunch of stuff about the quarterback

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Speaker 2: and making the quarterback comfortable. That that I want to

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Speaker 2: get into with, Yes, with our resident football guru, Matt Williamson. Matt,

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Speaker 2: when you hear a football coach at any level, but

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Speaker 2: an NFL football coach, head coach say I'm a believer

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Speaker 2: in the tradition of the West Coast offense, what's that mean?

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Speaker 2: Paint that picture for our audience.

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Speaker 3: So history lesson the West Coast offense basically started out

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Speaker 3: as the Ohio River offense.

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Speaker 2: Funny enough, offense started in Cincinnati, Ohio.

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Speaker 4: Months ago.

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Speaker 3: We had Ken Anderson for the Hall of Fame coach

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Speaker 3: talking about just a little bit he's up against else

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Speaker 3: for the Veterans Committee, and Walsh was the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: for the Bengals, and I forget who the Bengals head

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Speaker 3: coach was, but Walsh fully expected to get the bump

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Speaker 3: and become the head guy in Cincinnati, and as the

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Speaker 3: Bengals often do, they screwed it up and gave it

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Speaker 3: to somebody else. And the Niners Eddie de Barlow from

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Speaker 3: Youngstown says, Edie Walsh character seems like he knows a

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Speaker 3: thing or two. Comes to San Francisco, who is a

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Speaker 3: terrible team at the time that we're talking late seventies

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Speaker 3: here early you know that that era, and install your offense.

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Speaker 3: You know, he was considered like the the Ben Johnson

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Speaker 4: If there was an Internet then no knew about those things.

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Speaker 3: You know, innovative, super innovative, young mind and West Coast offense.

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Speaker 2: Real quick, yea real quick for you. Just Eddie de

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Speaker 2: Bartlow and the Youngstown connection. That's a big reason why

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Speaker 2: every eight years when the Steelers host the Niners. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you see them and a bunch of people in in

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Speaker 2: red and gold from Youngstown. Oh there's an you know,

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Speaker 2: I lived there for two years working for the hockey team. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's like random buildings have the Niners logo like on

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Speaker 2: the side. Like my first week in Youngstown, I was like,

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Speaker 2: what's with all the Niners logos? And they were like

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Speaker 2: what do you know about the Bartolow family. I was like,

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Speaker 2: you mean the family that owned the Penguins for a

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Speaker 2: couple of years, and they were like, oh, oh, let

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Speaker 3: And he's considered one of the best owned.

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Speaker 2: He's considered yeah, absolutely, yeah. And then also, just real quick,

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Speaker 2: could you imagine an alternate world where the Bengals did

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Speaker 2: hire Billy Walsh and now they have like four or

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Speaker 2: five Super Bowls?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Coach Walsh did pretty well. I washed a bullet there, right.

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Speaker 3: So again, this is it was super innovative at the time.

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Speaker 3: And they threw to the backs a lot a live

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Speaker 3: member when I was a kid, a lot of the Purists,

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Speaker 3: even when the Niners were winning a ton of games

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Speaker 3: before they won Super Bowls. This is too finesse to.

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Speaker 4: Win in the league. You're not tough enough. You're not the.

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Speaker 3: Steel curtain, the purple people eaters handing it.

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Speaker 4: To Jim Brown.

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Speaker 3: You know you got are too soft you throw the

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Speaker 4: Well no, not even a little.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was so innovative in that and many

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Speaker 3: of these principles, these principles still exist. Where Walsh married

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Speaker 3: up to the tenth of a second where this player

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Speaker 3: a three step drop. It's not one point nine seconds,

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Speaker 3: it's two point zero, you know. And the ball comes

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Speaker 3: out now to this read. If it's not there, you

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Speaker 3: go the next one. I mean, it's your footwork is

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can find a lot of wallsh stuff online.

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Speaker 3: You know, six inches in front of the numbers, not

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Speaker 2: And because because that leads the yards after cards, which

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Speaker 3: I mean, he threw to Roger Craig a lot when

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Speaker 3: one of the reasons, you know, history lesson Lebau's zone

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Speaker 3: Walsh in company didn't expect to drop into like those

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Speaker 3: a direct Walsh disciple.

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Speaker 2: And brought in that zone. Merit it with the zone

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Speaker 3: And a big reason I mean not to give it

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Speaker 3: Denver history lesson, But Shanahan was smart enough to realize

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Speaker 3: we play in extreme altitude. We want to play fast

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Speaker 3: with lighter offensive linemen. Opposition need three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: pound guys want to We want to keep them moving

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Speaker 3: we're going to hit, you know, quick hitters off of

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Speaker 3: that and slants and three step drop, five step draw,

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Speaker 3: all those things. So the next generation, of course, is

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Speaker 3: like Kyle Shanahan and McVeigh that learned from Daddy Shanahan,

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Speaker 3: and Kubiak was his right hand man, was always back

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Speaker 3: up in those days, and all those things However, and

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Speaker 3: this is not a knock on coach McCarthy. What the

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Speaker 3: Niners and Rams are running now has its roots in

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Speaker 3: West Coast offense. But a lot of West Coast offense

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Speaker 3: core principles aren't outdated. But you can't run the same offense,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like the Legion of Boom.

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Speaker 3: Cover of three swept the league. Whenever they were that

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Speaker 3: Now everyone knows Cover three beaters. I mean, if you're

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Speaker 3: that time it was kind of new, I mean, or

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Speaker 4: The world has evolved. Like, if you're to keep giving

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Speaker 2: The scheme is in football, right, scheme is eventually they'll

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Speaker 2: find a way to counter it. Right, And that's why

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Speaker 2: the game is so cyclical. We go from airing it

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Speaker 3: You know, fullbacks came back and things like that. So

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Speaker 3: one of the criticisms I've heard about McCarthy is will

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Speaker 4: Dallas was player oriented.

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Speaker 3: And by that I mean he's really really good at

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Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb. You know I'm talking about recent memory, But

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Speaker 3: can he scheme up John new Smith and Calvin Austin

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Speaker 3: and guys that you know what I mean that that type.

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Speaker 2: Of thing that are not Cede Lamb. Yeah, with all due.

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Speaker 3: Respect, And I think that and Rogers has some of

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Speaker 3: these criticisms too, Is he's an old dog that doesn't

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Speaker 3: want to know learn the newest tricks. Is McCarthy willing

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Speaker 3: to blend in futuristic thinking whatever the next thing is

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Speaker 3: to the existing roots of the West Coast offense? At

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Speaker 3: least that's the way I interpret it, you know.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's a great question. Yeah, And it's a whole

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Speaker 4: And we'll have to see it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we'll start talking about that stuff in camp

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Speaker 3: and you know, watching plays live and things like that.

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Speaker 2: According to Encyclopedia Britannica for all you kids out there,

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Speaker 2: that was like chat GPT for us before chat GPT.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was heavy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you had to go to the school library

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Speaker 2: or help. Graham had the full collection somewhere in your den.

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Speaker 3: To say if you had had some or knew somebody

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Speaker 3: that made your book reports a lot easier. They knew

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Speaker 3: just steal it right from it.

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Speaker 2: I still remember my dad had like a little studio

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Speaker 2: researching today? The Mississippi River. Let's go to them and

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Speaker 4: Clark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, According to Encyclopedia.

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Speaker 4: Britannica, something like came door to door and.

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Speaker 2: The West Coast offense is a precise timing based system

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Speaker 2: that emphasizes short horizontal passes to move the ball, acting

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Speaker 3: Matt sure, yeah, yeah, Mat, It is extremely innovative. But

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Speaker 3: that was nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 2: And that's how I mean, that's how everything, right, that's

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Speaker 2: how that's evolved and adapted like nothing what it is,

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Speaker 3: And there's a couple systems like air Coriel had a

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Speaker 3: up in the West Coast offense, you called this pattern this,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, if you're this route combination.

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Speaker 2: Spider, why banana?

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Speaker 4: Exactly exactly? Gruden was a West Coast spider.

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Speaker 2: Why Banana?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So a lot of it's just what language you're speaking.

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Speaker 2: I will say West Coast offense are also off the

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Speaker 2: tongue much nicer than Ohio River offense. Right, that worked

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Speaker 2: of the timing and the rhythm that that that helps

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Speaker 2: How does how does a when a West Coast offense

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Speaker 2: is humming? Yeah, how does how does that make a

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Speaker 3: Well, it is definitely. I definitely believe in moment menim rhythm,

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Speaker 3: you know, those type of things, getting easy completions early

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Speaker 3: I do think he has very good communication with far

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Speaker 3: of Rogers, Montana, Dak whoever to see what they're most

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean like I'm gonna do what you like.

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Speaker 3: And he's maximized those players as well. But from what

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Speaker 3: I understand, and I guess, there are some of McCarthy's

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home some

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Speaker 2: Tuesday, mass Don Dan Akerscher for the McCarthy Game Buzz.

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Speaker 2: One of the things. You were the one who asked

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Speaker 2: And that's going to be one of those things right

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Speaker 5: for for several years here in the league. But I

436
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Speaker 5: mean that was essentially that was Mike McCarthy twenty years ago, right,

437
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,879
Speaker 5: I mean that was it was the uh you know

438
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 5: that tree, coming from where he came from, and he

439
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 5: was a coveted head coach and they're nineteen years ago

440
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 5: for for Green Bay and coming from you know, being

441
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Speaker 5: kind of one of those young at that point, a young,

442
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 5: bright offensive mind coming up. So it's you know, it

443
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 5: is one of those things. I think amongst the fan base,

444
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,120
Speaker 5: it's like the the well they was some of the cliches.

445
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,959
Speaker 5: The most popular man of town is the backup quarterback.

446
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Speaker 5: I think the least popular man of town is always

447
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 5: a play caller, if you know what I'm saying. Like,

448
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 5: I feel like offensive coordinators an easy target a lot

449
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 5: of times and things aren't going well, or if it

450
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 5: aren't going well, you know so and you know, certainly

451
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 5: there's been elements of that in recent years here with

452
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Speaker 5: the Steelers with at least one coordinator in particular play caller.

453
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I think that that's something And hey, how

454
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 5: long has it been the Steelers had a head coach

455
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 5: with an offensive background, let alone want to call the play? Right,

456
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 5: we're going back, I know, we're going back at least

457
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,959
Speaker 5: sixty years, so not knowing you know that there's guy

458
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 5: as the coach, him with Dad are if they were

459
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 5: even off from the offensives that or defenses, either ball

460
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 5: or not. It's been a long time, so.

461
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Speaker 3: Of course the quarterback situation came up, and he quickly

462
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 3: said something along the lines of, yes, why wouldn't you

463
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 3: be interested in bringing back Aaron Rodgers.

464
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Speaker 2: Definitely don't see why you wouldn't.

465
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Speaker 3: Okay, you know so certainly didn't dismiss that. I'm sure

466
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Speaker 3: those conversations we had before he ever put pen to paper,

467
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Speaker 3: and unsolicited, he brought up Will Howard's name. I mean,

468
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Speaker 3: I know he was talking quarterbacks, but nobody asked them

469
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Speaker 3: specifically about Howard. From what I remember, he brought that up.

470
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Speaker 3: Do you get the impression that those two are very

471
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Speaker 3: much in the mix for next year?

472
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, because he brought up Howard unsolicited and

473
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 5: also talking to Bob with Labriola the other day, Art

474
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Speaker 5: Rudy essentially brought it up. I guess unslicit or would

475
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Speaker 5: I Rick brought up you know, it got brought up

476
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Speaker 5: with with with the team president. We're referencing the quarterback

477
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Speaker 5: or reference to the new head coach talking about Will Howard,

478
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Speaker 5: which I didn't think they had to do at that point. Sure,

479
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 5: so part of me says, well, if you're asked in

480
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 5: this setting about a player who's currently on the roster,

481
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 5: you're going to you're not going to say, well, I

482
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 5: don't know about that Will Howard? You know, you know

483
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 5: what are you gonna say?

484
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 4: Right?

485
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 5: I mean, you have to kind of be positive. The

486
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 5: part of me wants to say that, but you're right,

487
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 5: it seems like there he's certainly going out of his way.

488
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I imagine even what was put out on

489
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Speaker 5: Sunday had some sort of Mike McCarthy blessing of you know,

490
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Speaker 5: representing them, you know what I'm saying, or had some

491
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Speaker 5: sort of from the from the Steelers themselves, and what

492
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Speaker 5: he said today, it seems like that there is some

493
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Speaker 5: sort of now you know, his view from where he's at. Obviously,

494
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Speaker 5: there's no NFL game film on O Howard because he

495
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 5: is an NFL game yet, even a preseason game, so

496
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Speaker 5: you know, I imagine he's looking to college things things

497
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 5: like that, and yeah, there's no reason you should. I mean, again,

498
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 5: we have because we haven't seen W.

499
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:47,959
Speaker 4: Howard in the game.

500
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Speaker 5: So there's no reason we should dismiss the idea that

501
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 5: he can be part of the part of the discussion, certainly,

502
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 5: and part of the answer there. The Rogers thing is, again,

503
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 5: that's a that's a relationship he has with Aaron Rodgers

504
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 5: for twenty years now. Again, he's not gonna totally poop

505
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 5: pooh the idea of him coming back. I mean there's

506
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 5: a lot of layers of that, of course, because you

507
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 5: Aaron first has to want to come back.

508
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 4: I mean that that whole thing.

509
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 5: I hope and I wouldn't think this is the last

510
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 5: till June this time, if there is an idea that

511
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 5: he's coming back, to go through that again to that spring.

512
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 5: But there's no as you guys well know, there's not

513
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 5: like this clear and easy well there's never really a

514
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 5: clear and easy path if under your franchise star quarterback,

515
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 5: but like this year, even more so in terms of

516
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 5: the draft and just in terms of it might be

517
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 5: available or whatever, there's not like that. Young you know,

518
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 5: there's certain things you can look at and like this

519
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 5: option or that option, but it's not like cut and dried, right,

520
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 5: So you're probably gonna have to have some vetter on

521
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 5: your team, right, it's one way or another. And you know,

522
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 5: obviously with the familiarity both with the team and now

523
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 5: with the head coach and everything, there's there's a there's

524
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 5: there's probably worst routes you can go upport that one.

525
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Speaker 2: Well, staying with that then, Chris, because he was asked

526
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Speaker 2: about a timeline with Aaron Rodgers too, if if you

527
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: and and and again this just happen, we're all reacting

528
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: to it. I forget what his exact answer was, but

529
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: it was something along the lines of, like, you know,

530
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: I've got to discuss the timeline with Omar Khan and

531
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: in that type of thing, which I'm sure is the truth.

532
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: I doubt that they've gone sure that they've gone real

533
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: and they've had these conversations, but they haven't had time

534
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: yet to go reel in the weeds and kind of

535
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: break down every different possible scenario. You mentioned there buzz

536
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: with the June last year and Aaron Rodgers. Do you

537
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 2: think that there's a chance that that door is still

538
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: open for Aaron Rodgers But it's not going to be

539
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: on your terms. You can wait until the middle of

540
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: the summer to make a decision, because this is my

541
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: first year with a new organization. We've got to get

542
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: that quarterback room ironed out. You know, we got to

543
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 2: know what we're working with before we get to minicamp,

544
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 2: before we get to OTAs we you know, is do

545
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: you think that there's a chance that they'll keep that

546
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: door open? They'll Motel six leave the light on for

547
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, but they might not leave it on well

548
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: into the summer like they did last year.

549
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Speaker 3: It got to be shocked if OTA is open and

550
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 3: Rudolph and Howard are the only two quarterbacks.

551
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 4: I mean, like that's so late a process, you know.

552
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, you kind of wonder even this past season if

553
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 5: even if it seemed, you know, kind of a fade

554
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 5: of compleat and you know whatever, even you know, Mike

555
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 5: Tomban kind of did the wink in the nods essay

556
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 5: and the certain people that we are I kind of

557
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 5: an idea. By the time that the June, you still

558
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 5: wonder if, you know whatever, it's all hypothetical, but maybe

559
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 5: the organization loved Jackson Dart, like, oh my god, you know,

560
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 5: we're not gonna take Jackson Dart because they're you know,

561
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 5: no that you know what I'm saying like like that

562
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Speaker 5: that there from court of the draft. Again, maybe there's

563
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 5: a name, and I just always say ty Simpson, because

564
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 5: as as everybody's draft board sits now, it seems to

565
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 5: be the sweet spot where Burn Brown, where the Steelers

566
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 5: are picking, would be the would be the guy. But

567
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 5: whether it's sim or whether somebody climbs up the depth

568
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 5: chart or somewhere up to the draft board, or somebody

569
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 5: in the second or third round, whatever it might be,

570
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 5: if they fall in love with somebody there, you know,

571
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 5: you would think that they would still take them, right,

572
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 5: you still because there is two you know, I talked

573
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 5: to with Tom today on the Blitz about you know,

574
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 5: finding there's a quarterback and need for twenty twenty six,

575
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 5: and there's a quarterback you need for your future, and

576
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 5: that they can be they can be the same person

577
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 5: in theory, or they could be two different people. And

578
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 5: certainly if you're if one of them is a forty

579
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 5: two year old, he's not going to be the latter.

580
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 5: Ear this too, right, that's just simple simple biology. So

581
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 5: if you know, and unless it's no matter what, if

582
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 5: you go with a young guy, you probably need a

583
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 5: bridge guy. Now, I guess you could tuck yourself into

584
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 5: Mason Rudolph being that guy. That's possible, but yeah, the

585
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 5: long wayt say and that that I can't. You know,

586
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 5: I don't think you can. You need to go into

587
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 5: free agency and the draft or that the trade market whatever

588
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 5: it is, with a plan and not saying well, this

589
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 5: is the backup and Rodgers might come and we'll see it,

590
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 5: you know it kind of you got to kind of know.

591
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 5: I think this year, you know, last year was one thing.

592
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 5: Maybe a little different circumstances. We don't have a new

593
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 5: coach and everything, and hey, Art Rooney was pretty upfront

594
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 5: about that. Part of the reason they hired that Mike

595
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 5: McCarthy was hired was a developing knee on quarterback. Now,

596
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 5: maybe you're right, maybe you can punt it one year

597
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 5: down the road, and you know that's fine, but you know,

598
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 5: at some point here, I mean, it's common sense too.

599
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 5: You need to get a young quarterback to develop him.

600
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 5: So probably the sooner the better for our parties. But

601
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 5: again that's easier said than done, especially you look at

602
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 5: the way the draft boards fits right now.

603
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kurtz, i'mutting it in a spot because I wouldn't

604
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: expect you to have an answer to this, but any

605
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: inclination on coordinator hires. He did mention leaning a three

606
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 3: to four on defense or Wes and I kind of

607
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 3: talked about that. I don't know if I'd look too

608
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: much into that, as he only in the market for

609
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 3: three four guys because the Steelers are running three four

610
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 3: for fifty years. I don't know if that makes sense,

611
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 3: but you know what I mean.

612
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he did. You know, he

613
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: referenced that he's been busy already, which you know, you

614
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 5: expect him to be, and he better have been, you know,

615
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 5: the last couple of days earlier, but that's obviously kind

616
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 5: of the first priorities assemble the staff top to bottom

617
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 5: in that way. So yeah, I mean, anymore, I feel

618
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 5: like like something as simple as three four fourth, I think,

619
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 5: you know, up thirty years ago was pretty rigid, Right,

620
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: There's so much. Yeah, it's just you know, down to

621
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 5: down play to play, package to package opponent two opponent, right.

622
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 5: I mean we saw this year with the Steelers that

623
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 5: they you know, and certainly use different personnel game the

624
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 5: game or what situation situations. So I think it's a

625
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 5: lot more now where you're getting you know your best

626
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 5: to live on the field for this certain situation than

627
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 5: you are so much for it. But there is still

628
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 5: an element. There's still some players that will fit a

629
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 5: lot better and offensively and defensively in certain schemes. So yeah,

630
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 5: it'll be interesting to see. I don't know, you know.

631
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 5: One of the reason I wanted to ask about the

632
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 5: play calling is I think that that certainly affects the

633
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 5: type of coordinator you're going to get, I would think, right,

634
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 5: I mean I wouldn't.

635
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm wrong.

636
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 5: You know, a veteran offensive coordinator probably not going to

637
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 5: want to come and not call the plays, right, you

638
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 5: know that probably, But that's not a bad thing either.

639
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 5: I don't think if you get a young, kind of innovative,

640
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 5: up and coming mind to, you know, have the coordinator

641
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 5: title and he kind of learned his way into it,

642
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 5: and you know, I think that could be good for

643
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 5: an organization too. So I think th at least off

644
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 5: of that alone, you know that that's maybe a little

645
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 5: bit of a hint and where they might go offensively.

646
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 3: I would really like to see them do that offensively.

647
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: The quarterback coach or the offensive coordinator be a younger,

648
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: you know, maybe an innovative thinker, maybe someone that isn't

649
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: directly related to him outside the organization, a totally different

650
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Speaker 3: way of viewing things that maybe could even be the

651
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Speaker 3: head coach in three four years here. But on the

652
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Speaker 3: other side of the ball, I couldn't care less if

653
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Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator is thirty five or seventy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it has that feel, and that's one of the

655
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Speaker 5: I wanted to It's kind of hard to frame the

656
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Speaker 5: question even and we seemed like we pretty much one

657
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Speaker 5: question each, but I was curious in that way too,

658
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Speaker 5: and he but Mike did reference that in terms. He

659
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 5: pretty much said paraphrase to here that you know, when

660
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Speaker 5: I'm building a staff, you want to have a blend

661
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Speaker 5: of real experience, you know, hardened guys that've been around

662
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Speaker 5: and know everything, and also young and hungry, and you know,

663
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Speaker 5: go get them types up, up and coming type guys.

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Speaker 5: And I think part of that ladder what you just

665
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 5: reference is it's kind of fresh ideas, new ideas, and

666
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 5: you're kind of incubating I mean you're not, I mean

667
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 5: you're not especially doing for them, although I'm sure you're.

668
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 5: If you're getting guys hired, that means you're doing a

669
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 5: good doing a good job, but just sort of, you know,

670
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 5: the different perspective and that kind of young and young

671
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Speaker 5: and hungry type of thing. So yeah, I would kind

672
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Speaker 5: of to me and and and I guess, you know,

673
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Speaker 5: going back to some of his staff, that depends on

674
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Speaker 5: I guess how you view some of those guys that

675
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 5: you know, especially if you're going to in other words,

676
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 5: to me, it's just maybe I'm making too much of this,

677
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 5: but to be a coordinator and you're not calling the plays,

678
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Speaker 5: you're probably going to trend more on the younger side

679
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: of the guy that wants to commit. Yeah, thirty something

680
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 5: guy who wants to learn under Mike McCarthy. Right, I mean,

681
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Speaker 5: that's that's going to be pretty appealing if you're a

682
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Speaker 5: young and ambitious, you know, up and coming and want

683
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 5: to be an NFL coordinator, NFL head coach and NFL

684
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 5: play caller. To be able to to you know, work

685
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Speaker 5: under him for a couple of years, that I think

686
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Speaker 5: would be So I think that may be one of

687
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 5: the areas where you see that. And yeah, I think offensively,

688
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 5: I mean look at again, I mean the Steelers, we know

689
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 5: they talked to Nate Shuhouse, they talked to a koubiact.

690
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Speaker 5: You know, I think that there is sort of a

691
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 5: recognition that, yeah, maybe the you know, we're seeing trends.

692
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 5: I mean, Mike, Mike talked about that a lot too.

693
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 5: He talked a lot about trends. That was a big yeah.

694
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Speaker 5: So he definitely hammered on that. And so he's aware

695
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 5: of the trends, and he's aware of some of these.

696
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure he's hyper aware of the offense.

697
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 5: He's an offensive guy and aware of the offensive trend

698
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 5: So he knows that, and I'm sure he's going to

699
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 5: try to get some of those people thinking along those

700
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Speaker 5: lines here too.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff with Chris Adamski. While as as Mike McCarthy

702
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: says things are moving one hundred miles an hour. I

703
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: did love how he emphasized the.

704
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Speaker 5: Guys. The way he said Will Howard was probably the thing,

705
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Speaker 5: and that, Yeah, the introduction of of a stewers head

706
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 5: coach being from Greenfield and saying Will Howard by Howard

707
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 5: was the most I think it might have happened.

708
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: I think Myron Cope and mister Rogers were high five

709
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 2: and upstairs when they heard that one things are moving

710
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour according to Mike McCarthy. But

711
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: we do know that if he is able to win

712
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: that seventh Lumbar already championship for the city, the parade

713
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: will start at eleven thirty seven Greenfield Avenue. I wonder

714
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Speaker 2: if the people who live there now are like, wait, wait,

715
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Speaker 2: hold on a way, you didn't sign up for the

716
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Speaker 2: give it out our address for a Super Bowl party

717
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Speaker 2: of the.

718
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Speaker 4: Trip be stopping there tonight.

719
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: Most poor people, it's probably like the the Breaking Bat

720
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: House in in Albuquerque, Like those people the year after

721
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: that episode, they'd like walk outside and there'd be pizza

722
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: up on the all the time. Like those poor people

723
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: didn't deserve that. Come on, man, Chris and Danski. If

724
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 2: he ever wins a Super Bowl for the Pittsburgh Steelers,

725
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Speaker 2: the parade will start at the Flying Saucer up and

726
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Speaker 2: downtown Mars Pa. We know that, we know that for sure. Buzz.

727
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time, partner. We'll talk to you soon.

728
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Speaker 5: All right, Take care guys anytime.

729
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: Make sure you're checking out all his work in the trip,

730
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: listening to him and Tom on the Blitz every single day.

731
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Speaker 2: Matt and I have one more segment to go. We'll

732
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: wrap this thing up, some reports about some interviews for

733
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: the Steelers, yeah, and some other some other league coach.

734
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Let's uh, Matt, let's cross, some te's okay, dots, some

735
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: eyes on the news of the day. When we return

736
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Speaker 2: on the other side to shut down.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna do tonight too, I'm gonna

738
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: watch two Senior Bowl practices.

739
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: Were those live streamed?

740
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: I just some old school DVR.

741
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I get what you're saying. Yeah, well, yeah, because

742
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: they'd be during the day. That makes sense. You know

743
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: what I had to do tonight?

744
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: And I started looking at way ins and stuff too,

745
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: and and I.

746
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: Was gonna go back and watch the the NFL films

747
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: on the West Coast offense and.

748
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Speaker 4: Bill Walsh, Nah, you should.

749
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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll swap notes tomorrow, we discover, but we'll go

750
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Speaker 2: through news of the day, both Steelers staff and NFL coaching,

751
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Speaker 2: moving and shaking. When we return to close down the

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Speaker 2: drive for today, You'ler Williamson Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio.

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Speaker 1: Now your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to

755
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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

756
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: Every commercial break on the show today has just evolved into.

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00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 4: Will hired, a lot of will hired.

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00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 2: Matt maybe one hundred miles an hour, a million miles

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Speaker 2: and ire.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But let's transition here for our final segment, because Matt,

762
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: while you know, yesterday and today have been Mike McCarthy,

763
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: I mean topic one, two, three, four, five, six, and seven,

764
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: there is still plenty of coaching carousel moving and shaking

765
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: happening across the open in the National Football League. Still

766
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: three open jobs.

767
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 3: Down to three. I guess Bill's filled it today.

768
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: Bill's filled there today. We'll get to that. And so

769
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Speaker 2: I have and again we just did some of this,

770
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: so I know what they hand up. I know what

771
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: they say happens when you assume. But does it feel

772
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: like maybe we could get some Browns and Raiders news

773
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 2: soon because maybe they were waiting on Shulan Shieldhouse. Yeah,

774
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: I mean, if not, I don't know what those organizations

775
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: are doing.

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Speaker 3: I think Adam Schefter said the other day that he

777
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be shocked if all the things, if everything's

778
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: filled by the end of day Wednesday, I mean.

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00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 2: Maybe the business tomorrow.

780
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 3: A couple of things happened midday today. Maybe we even

781
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: get something before tomorrow. The bills are in the books.

782
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: That only leaves three spots Raiders, Cardinals, Browns probably not coincidentally,

783
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: the three worst teams that we're looking for coaches. I mean,

784
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: the guys are picking early in the draft. But the

785
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: inclination I get, which seems to get stronger and stronger

786
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: is uh Kubiak, the offensive coordinator for more Seattle.

787
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: He linked to the.

788
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 3: Raiders, heavily linked to the Raiders, and Tom Brady when

789
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 3: he was calling that game, who is a minority owner

790
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 3: of the Raiders, but he's got.

791
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Speaker 2: But he's got majority own her power vasis.

792
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Speaker 3: Exactly which, Hey, that makes sense. I mean, I'm sure

793
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: that's a fine fit. With Mendoza, he's only been the

794
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: offense coordinator there for a year, and he was offense

795
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: coordinatord with the Saints. They let him go, but they

796
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: let everybody go, so that seems like a link. The

797
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: other link is Lafleor the offensive coordinator for the Rams

798
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: to Arizona. Again, that would make sense. Familiarity in the

799
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: in the the vision, all that stuff. It's not the

800
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 3: most desirable job in the world. The Browns looks like

801
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 3: they definitely do not want to part ways with Schwartz.

802
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: Defensive coordinator and Mary Cake Habit, who's kind of like

803
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: a Jerry du Lac for the Browns world that it

804
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: has done it forever and is really doubt in mentioned Monkin,

805
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: she mentioned shield House, and who is the other offensive

806
00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: guy I forget who she mentioned along with Schwartz that

807
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 3: she thinks it's going to be Schwartz is the head

808
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: guy or one of those three offensive minded guys that

809
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: just totally leave Schwartz away alone as the defensive.

810
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: Courdint Anthony Lynn, the Anthony Lynn that's Commander's run game coordinator.

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Speaker 3: And he did do a stint as a head coach

812
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Speaker 3: for the Chargers. I would think he's the longest shot

813
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: of those, but I was just putting the pieces together too,

814
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: Like if I'm right then that those of those you know,

815
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: dominoes falling shield House. I would rather be mcveigh's offensive

816
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: coordinator with the Rams than the head guy with the

817
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Speaker 3: Browns and have no say on the defense. I mean,

818
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 3: if you're think about the.

819
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Speaker 2: Your stock interesting point.

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Speaker 3: You don't call Yeah, you don't call plays, but you're

821
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: with one of the best organizations that's going to win

822
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: as opposed to the mess in Cleveland.

823
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Speaker 4: He could be Ben Johnson a year from now.

824
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: No doubt, you know. But okay, let me play devil's advocate.

825
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: Let me sit on the other shoulder. If your shoelhouse

826
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: and you're looking at it, could you be saying the

827
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: Browns have had a top three, top five defense almost

828
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: every year. If I can, if I can go there

829
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: and just make the offense decent, we'll be We'll be,

830
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 2: We'll be all right.

831
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 4: There's just no pieces in place on offense.

832
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 3: I mean, very very few, and it's the organizations tough

833
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: to work for because they just don't keep you.

834
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: That long speaking like you've got some.

835
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: But if that were to be the case, are any

836
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: of those guys better on the offensive side of the

837
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: ball than Stefanski? I mean, so fans is pretty good offense,

838
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, did you get any better?

839
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: If that's probably not how it all will just spinning wheels.

840
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 4: A little bit.

841
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 3: And I kind of feel like that's what's happening in

842
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: Buffalo too, Like, okay, so they bump up Brady Joe Brat.

843
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, for those who don't know yet, Joe Brady is

844
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: the head coach. He was the offensive coordinator under McDermott.

845
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: Now he's the head coach, five year deal announced today.

846
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: And he did some good things taken over.

847
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: Like I was really harsh on the Bills for years,

848
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: basically until Brady came over, Like, don't you realize you

849
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 3: play in Buffalo?

850
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: You need to run the football.

851
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 3: You know, you can't just throw all over the place

852
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 3: you're built trying all you do is to worry about

853
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 3: beating the Chiefs. And he installed a lot of six

854
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: to zero line stuff, big blocking tight ends, developed one

855
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 3: of the best running games in the league. It's not

856
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: a big back, but Josh Allen's your big back. So

857
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: he has done good things. But part of me just

858
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 3: kind of felt like, is this just making Josh happy?

859
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 3: And say Joane about McDermott, but he was a really

860
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: good defensive mind. So if Brady, because now he's in

861
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: charge of the whole team instead of the offense, loses

862
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: twenty or twenty five percent of his offensive influence or time,

863
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 3: and you gotta go hire a defensive coordinator that probably

864
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 3: won't be as good as McDermott. Did you get any.

865
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Speaker 2: Better pressures on the wheels?

866
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: The pressure's on the win. Now you go win Super

867
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Speaker 4: Bowl next year? You know what I mean yes.

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Speaker 3: And the other weird thing about it is McDermott, like

869
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: a Tomlin or somebody that's been around for a long time,

870
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: probably had a lot to say in terms of picking players.

871
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean, you've been there long enough.

872
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 3: I'm sure Brady doesn't then won't and didn't or won't

873
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 3: and that just gives more power to the GM of

874
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: who I would have moved away from to begin with.

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00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think a lot of Bills fans

877
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 3: are thrilled with how it went.

878
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 4: I know they're not.

879
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: They're not, you know, they certainly are not in fact,

880
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: and I know I've told you this before. I think

881
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: I've even shared this on the air. Like one of

882
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: my best friends from college is from Buffalo, a massive

883
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: Bills fan, and I talked to him on the phone

884
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: this afternoon and he was none too please. I bet

885
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: I bet you mentioned Brian Dable there a few minutes ago,

886
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 2: set to take the offensive coordinator job for the Titans

887
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: under Robert sala I love it, yeah, particularly for cam

888
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: Ward in fact, what we saw Dable and what he

889
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: was able to do with Josh Allen, my goodness. If

890
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: I'm cam Ward, I'm doing backflips right now. I think

891
00:41:59,080 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: this is outstanding.

892
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do think Dave Ball probably gets more

893
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 3: credit than he deserves with Alan. Sure, but don't forget

894
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: Alan was a train wreck to begin with, but also

895
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: a lot of what Allan did, I think was away

896
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: from the facility with his.

897
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: Own quarterback mechanics coach.

898
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: Yeah but still, and Dave Ball didn't get a ton

899
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: out of Daniel Jones with the Giants. Still, he's very

900
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: widely regarded quarterback developer, offensive mind, big personality. I think

901
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: Robert Sala won't be intimidated by, you know, being around

902
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: day Ball, who's pretty rough around the edges and all

903
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: those things. But I think it's great for ward a

904
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: lot of credibility in the building. Obviously, the head coach

905
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: is going to deal with the defense, Dave Ball is

906
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 3: going to deal with the offense. I think that Tennessee

907
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: did pretty well.

908
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: I Again, if I'm a Titans fan and I'm looking

909
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: where we're at, again, the verdict is still out on

910
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: Robert Sala the head coach. Yeah, yeah, but I think

911
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: he deserves a grain of salt because of the struggling

912
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: organization that he was with as a head coach. Previously. Yes,

913
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: and I think there's no doubt that he knows how

914
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 2: to get the most out of his defenses. Yes, so

915
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: exactly when you look at what you have in the

916
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: trenches on that defense and in your head coach now,

917
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: and then you look at the offensive side of the things,

918
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: and you think, all right, we've got some pieces on

919
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: the offensive line, we've got the young quarterback. Now, we've

920
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 2: got a respected offensive mind, like I think I think Tenny.

921
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: You hit on a couple free agents, you hit on

922
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: a couple of draft picks. And I'm not saying they're

923
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: going to win the division, but they could be. They

924
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: could win seven, eight nine games next year.

925
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe the year after they do win the division.

926
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 2: Right, maybe in December. They're playing important football still type

927
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: of thing.

928
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy. You don't have to squid

929
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: too hard for that.

930
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 2: Of all the dreadfully, woefully terrible teams last year, they're

931
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: the one that I think has the quickest chance to

932
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: turn it around.

933
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm just a big cam mored believe.

934
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: A couple more Matt Commanders finalizing a deal to hire

935
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: Deronte Jones's defensive coordinator. He was the Minnesota Vikings defensive

936
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: backs coach since twenty twenty two.

937
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 4: Those are ones are almost impossible.

938
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: They're so tough to evaluate and comment on.

939
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 4: The best might be the worst. I don't know.

940
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: The Jets also parting ways with their offensive coordinator Tanner

941
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 2: ing Strand.

942
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 3: Which was went great for the Jets last year. But okay,

943
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure the owner wanted some heads to roll if

944
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 3: he was going to bring back, you know, the head coach.

945
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: After a year.

946
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I mean, and that's my I don't know.

947
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: It's like it's like a bane dark Knight returns. I

948
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: expect one of us in the records, brother, like someone

949
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: someone's got to go down with.

950
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 4: Matt.

951
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: We will discuss these more tomorrow, and I want to

952
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: do a little more homework on these guys too for tomorrow.

953
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: But a couple of reports of Steelers related interviewees.

954
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 4: Okay, I've only heard of one.

955
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: Cowboys tight ends coach Lunda Wells expected an interview for

956
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: the Steelers offensive coordinator job. He of course, worked under

957
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy there on the Dallas staff for five years.

958
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: He was an old lineman as a player and got

959
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: a lot out of Okay, talented tight ends, you know

960
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: Terrence Ferguson's on short talented guy out there, you know.

961
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: And then the Steelers will also, it's being reported by

962
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 2: Mark Cabali, will interview Jason Simmons for the defensive coordinator position.

963
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: Current past game defensive coordinator for the Washington Commanders coach

964
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: with Mike McCartney in Green Bay for eight years.

965
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 4: Don't know about him again.

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00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: That's why I want to say, I want to do

967
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: more home I'm going to do yes, interview, Yes. So,

968
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: like I said, I want to do more homework on

969
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: these guys and their backgrounds and all that stuff too,

970
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: But just wanted to go ahead and make sure and

971
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: mention those here today. And then finally Steelers outside linebackers

972
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: coach Denzel Martin. We've talked about him in the past.

973
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: I think you've I think you've heard me rave about him.

974
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite guys on that staff to

975
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: just be around at training camp and on the road

976
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: and stuff. I just think he's a good dude. I

977
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: think he's a good coach. I think he's he's one

978
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: of those guys that you want in the room. He

979
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: has been the Cowboys have requested to interview them to

980
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 2: interview to interview him. So obviously we know a lot

981
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: of these you know, Danny Smith taking the Tampa Bay job, right,

982
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: some of these these coaches that have we're on the

983
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: Steelers staff that will be keeping an eye on too,

984
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: sounds like rightfully. So when you look at the t J.

985
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: Wattson Alex high Smith's and herbigs that he's developed, that

986
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: he's going to get some some interviews this. Yeah, so

987
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: that's kind of just folks.

988
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: I've prefaced this before. I mean, when we start talking

989
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 3: about position coaches to coordinate or hires.

990
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna have a ton of insight. Yeah, so

991
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 4: do the best.

992
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: We'll do the best we can. We'll do some more

993
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: research on some of these guys tonight and we'll have

994
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: some more news by the time we get back here tomorrow.

995
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: But that will do it for us today. Thanks to

996
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Speaker 2: Chris Adamski for joining us. Thanks to Nate Dogg on

997
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Speaker 2: the Ones and twos producing TV, mister Tyler V on

998
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Speaker 2: the video side of things for Matt Wainson, I'm Wet Shueler.

999
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Speaker 2: Take care everybody, and we will talk to you tomorrow.

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