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Speaker 2: Dying to be skinny. Look around, everybody you know is

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Speaker 3: Well, at least they say they are.

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Speaker 2: And they're getting plastic surgery.

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Speaker 3: I'm not judging.

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Speaker 3: I could probably use all of that.

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Speaker 2: But tourism to other countries plastic surgery tourism is taking

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Speaker 2: She ended up going into a savings account to get

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Speaker 2: the dental implants here in the US. But guess what

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Speaker 2: Serie six, sem one eleven. Believe it or not, these

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Speaker 2: This was brought to the forefront just recently with the

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Speaker 5: Six months after the sudden passing of Lisa Marie Presley,

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Speaker 2: It was very unexpected because just literally about seventy two

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Speaker 5: Just days before she died, Presley was at Graceland taking

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Speaker 2: Doctor Poris, thank you for being with us. Could you

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Speaker 2: What exactly do you do when you perform buryatric weight

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Speaker 6: So, if you're doing a stomach shrinking operation, you're actually

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Speaker 7: It's this is not a small surgery.

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Speaker 6: I mean these are very big, complex operations and when

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Speaker 6: Not go to somebody who claims they're a bariatric surgeon

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Speaker 6: Through a series of intra abdominal staples. So we actually

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Speaker 2: So there's two, from my understanding, two types of very

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Speaker 8: Thirty four year old Marquita McIntyre. Her friends call her Kiki.

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Speaker 8: She's always had an issue with her weight, and after

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Speaker 9: Justine Rodriguez to Mexico to get a gastric sleeve where

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Speaker 9: Insurance companies view bariatric surgery as cosmetic instead of what

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Speaker 2: Straight out to Alexis Tereschak crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter.

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Speaker 2: In the last seventy two hours, I've learned of another

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Speaker 7: Leanne is a mom. She was thirty eight years old

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Speaker 2: Law Committee for the International Bar, Michael, thank you for

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Speaker 11: You know, Nancy, what's happening with these people going overseas

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Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, hold on, brainiac. Not everybody has

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Speaker 11: Nancy, not only do I agree with that, but in

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Speaker 11: and people must be very very careful then not to

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Speaker 2: You know, I learned all about quality of care doctor

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Speaker 2: Stephanie Pors and doctor Bethane and R. Brandt please jump

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Speaker 6: Doctor, Yeah, you're absolutely right. And that's what's so absolutely

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Speaker 7: Ancy to Nancy, if I jump in.

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Speaker 2: About this coming to you with me doctor Bethany Marshall,

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Speaker 2: renowned psychoanalysts joining us out of Beverly Hills. You can

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Speaker 2: to all the beautiful people in Beverly Hills, but one

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Speaker 2: But I bet you have a lot of issues. I

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Speaker 2: know you're not going to comment with your clients. Okay,

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Speaker 2: plastic surgery, fine, have it. I just be mad if

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Speaker 12: Well, I think that there's almost like a gambling mentality.

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Speaker 12: There's almost this magical belief that everything will turn out okay.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, think about it, doctor Bethany, sure your

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Speaker 2: so much because of my lie. All right, Oh, would

439
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: have tangled web we we boy. I thought about that

440
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: when I was standing in line down in bib County

441
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: trying to get a birth certificate because I didn't want

442
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 2: her to go to Mexico to get the dental implants.

443
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: By the way, we did get on the Disney cruise.

444
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: I had to go through so many hoops and so

445
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 2: much proof that this little lady in the wheelchair was

446
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: you know, actually Elizabeth Grace, but she didn't go to

447
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: Mexico and she got the implants and yuess what, she

448
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 2: has the most beautiful set of teeth, but it did

449
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: cost her an arm and a leg. Hey guys, I'm

450
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: just being joined by IRV Brandt, Senior Inspector, US Marshall Service,

451
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: International Investigations Branch, Chief Inspector, DOJ Office of International Affairs,

452
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: author a solo shot Curse.

453
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: Of the Bluestone. Oh that's a good one on.

454
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: Amazon and flying solo top of the world having gotten

455
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Speaker 2: to it. But I'm getting their IRV Brant. IRV. People

456
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 2: may wonder why I want a worldwide bounty hunter essentially

457
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Speaker 2: with me right now, because you've been in every one

458
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Speaker 2: of these cities. Can you explain what Michael Griffith and

459
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: I are talking.

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Speaker 13: About if I can, man En, I'm glad you're doing this,

461
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 13: bringing light to this because people don't understand how dangerous

462
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:57,239
Speaker 13: going south of the border can be. They think like

463
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Speaker 13: they would here in the US traveling between cities. And

464
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Speaker 13: I'm going to go and I'm going to do this,

465
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Speaker 13: and I'm going to have this procedure done and I'm

466
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Speaker 13: going to take money with me when you go south

467
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Speaker 13: of the border, whether it's Mexico or Central America. And

468
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Speaker 13: this is very common, the medical procedures for dental or

469
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Speaker 13: plastic surgery, things like that. My brother with the State

470
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Speaker 13: Department was in Costa Rica, and I would go to

471
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Speaker 13: Costa Rica all the time to go to his house

472
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Speaker 13: and we would talk about it. Our flights back and

473
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Speaker 13: forth to the US, about half the flights were the

474
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Speaker 13: passengers were people coming to Costa Rica for medical procedures.

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Speaker 13: And these people are bringing a lot of money with them,

476
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Speaker 13: you know, to pay for these procedures, and they're being

477
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Speaker 13: targeted for violent crimes. And it's a lack of awareness.

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Speaker 13: I'll give you then example, a country like Honduras. I

479
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Speaker 13: recently read a report is the most dangerous place on

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Speaker 13: Earth for a woman. A woman that's killed in a

481
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Speaker 13: Hondurs every thirty six hours, is targeted and murdered every

482
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Speaker 13: thirty six hours. But people are unaware of this. You know,

483
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Speaker 13: they treat international travel like they would treat interstate travel

484
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Speaker 13: in this country. And I'm with you, I'm going to

485
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Speaker 13: hide their passports if I have the chance.

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Speaker 2: And listen, don't get me wrong, it's just what doctor

487
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Speaker 2: Bethany Marshall was earlier saying that people think they're getting,

488
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Speaker 2: Oh what a good deal. I can't pass it up.

489
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Speaker 2: I said, mother, please stay in the US. I will

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Speaker 2: pay for it. I will put it on my American

491
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Speaker 2: Express card, bay it off every month. Oh no, that

492
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Speaker 2: wouldn't do. She had to try and save the money.

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Speaker 2: I mean, doctor Bethany Marshall, when we were growing up,

494
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Speaker 2: no no cookies in the house, no snaw no uh

495
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Speaker 2: uh nothing. I mean we could have any money. But

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Speaker 2: my point is she's a saver. That's the way she is.

497
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Speaker 2: And she thought she was going to save money by

498
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Speaker 2: going to Mexico. I seriously did backflips trying to keep

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Speaker 2: her from going. Offered to pay whatever it was here

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Speaker 2: so she wouldn't go, And ultimately I had to tell

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Speaker 2: a lie, which I always get caught doctor Bethany always.

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Speaker 2: And you know then, as I said, the whole Disney thing,

503
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Speaker 2: and oh but it's that whole saving money thing getting

504
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Speaker 2: a deal.

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Speaker 12: There's another aspect of this. It's also controlling the procedure.

506
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Speaker 12: And what I mean by that. I have a good

507
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Speaker 12: friend who's a clothing designer. He wanted me to go

508
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Speaker 12: to Tiajuana with him where he was going to get

509
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Speaker 12: some inexpensive gentle work. He wanted veneers, so you put

510
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 12: those over your teeth so that they look you know, whiter,

511
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Speaker 12: more uniform. But he's a very controlling guy. He thinks

512
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Speaker 12: he always knows the best about aesthetics.

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Speaker 7: So he goes.

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Speaker 12: I accompanied him. He goes to this clinic. Tourists were

515
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 12: coming straight from the boss, straight from the airplane. There

516
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 12: were all these people in the waiting room with suitcases

517
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 12: and they would say, oh, I'm from Illinois and from

518
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 12: Missouria from here. So these tourists were going straight to

519
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 12: this clinic. So my friend gets the handle work done

520
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 12: and he comes out and his teeth looks like chick lips.

521
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Speaker 12: And I asked him, like, what the heck happened? And

522
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Speaker 12: he controlled the procedure. He said, well, I wanted this,

523
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Speaker 12: you know, the front to look like this and the

524
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Speaker 12: sides to look like this, and so he dictated how

525
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Speaker 12: the teeth were going to look, and they looked, you know,

526
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Speaker 12: deformed afterwards. So I think it's saving money. It's controlling

527
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 12: the procedure, thinking you know more than the doctor. You know,

528
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 12: there's all kinds of strange motivations. I think that go

529
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Speaker 12: into going.

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Speaker 7: South of the Border.

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Speaker 1: Prime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: I think I heard Michael Griffith jumping in jump in front.

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Speaker 11: On that point, Americans have to realize that if there's

534
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Speaker 11: any medical malpractice or negligence in a foreign country, the

535
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Speaker 11: lawyers there do not work on contingencies like they do

536
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Speaker 11: in the United States. You have to pay the lawyers

537
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 11: there hour for hour, and if you get a judgment,

538
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 11: If you get a judgment in that foreign country, you

539
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Speaker 11: have to go under either the Hague Convention or the

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Speaker 11: bilateral a judgment process where where you have to try

541
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Speaker 11: to attach property or assets in that foreign country, which

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Speaker 11: is very, very difficult.

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Speaker 2: Dare Lord in Heaven Michael Griffith is now quoting the

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Speaker 2: Hague Convention as a basis to get paid back from

545
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: botch surgery. You know you're in trouble when the opposing

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Speaker 2: side starts quoting the Hague Convention.

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Speaker 11: Oh.

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Speaker 2: I don't even want to get into what the Hague

549
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Speaker 2: Convention is. I've had to deal with it a couple

550
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Speaker 2: of times. I never want to touch it with a

551
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Speaker 2: ten foot pole.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to echo a statement here so you know

553
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Speaker 6: you talked about shopping around.

554
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: In the doctor porus. Go ahead, doctor.

555
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Speaker 6: You know, we were talking about the patient that thinks

556
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Speaker 6: they know best in shopping around, and you know, we

557
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 6: see that a lot, a lot, you know, especially in

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Speaker 6: cosmetic surgery. Patients shop around all the time looking for

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Speaker 6: the best price. I mean, so we see that in

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Speaker 6: the United States. But the other issue that I think

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Speaker 6: a lot of the medical people that are doing this

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Speaker 6: medical tourism is they've probably been told no by a

563
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Speaker 6: lot of plastic surgeons, whether it be for not being

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Speaker 6: a good candidate for surgery, meaning they have significant comorbidity,

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Speaker 6: maybe they're smokers, or they have diabetes and they're not

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Speaker 6: fit for a cosmetic operation.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: It's one thing when you got to get your appendix out,

569
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Speaker 6: it's an emergency. It's another when you want a facelift.

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Speaker 6: You know, we want all of the teas to be crossy.

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Speaker 6: I used to be done in and I think a

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Speaker 6: lot of these people may have heard no and said, well, listen,

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Speaker 6: I bet I can go to Mexico and get this

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Speaker 6: done again. Substandard care, the standards of care are just different.

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Speaker 6: And so I think that a lot of these patients

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Speaker 6: that may even be dying overseas may have not been

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Speaker 6: good surgical candidates to begin with.

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Speaker 2: That's a really good point, doctor Porus and says, if

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Speaker 2: you read my mind, because my mom was told no

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Speaker 2: by many oral surgeons and Dennis because of her age.

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Speaker 3: She's a pretty good help.

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Speaker 2: But she let's say she's ninety one, about to turn

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Speaker 2: ninety two right now, so she would have been ninety

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Speaker 2: or eighty nine at the time this whole implant thing

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Speaker 2: came up, and doctors are like no, no, no, no no,

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Speaker 2: And she goes, hey, I'm going to Mexico. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: I'll never say you're again. Guys, this is by far,

588
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: these two ladies, Kiki McIntyre to Stane Rodriguez, by far

589
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: not the first ladies to die in plastic surgery. International

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Speaker 2: Tourism take a listen to our cut sixteen NBC.

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Speaker 14: Despite the LII's beauty, the forty six year old realtor

592
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Speaker 14: wanted to change, so she traveled April twenty to Columbia

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Speaker 14: to undergo gastric bypass surgery at the hands of doctor

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Speaker 14: god losals Puccini, who had performed the same surgery on

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Speaker 14: her in twenty fifteen. Delia's mother and aunt went with her.

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Speaker 14: She left the consultation reassured by the doctor that she

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Speaker 14: would be fine in three days.

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Speaker 11: Her aunt says.

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Speaker 1: Medical record show Deli.

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Speaker 14: Was admitted to Drina Katarina Klinic and Bran Guillan April

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Speaker 14: twenty first. She went into the o R at three

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Speaker 14: pm in good condition, got a gastric sleeve, and was

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Speaker 14: released the same day.

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Speaker 2: She was released the same day it started experiencing pain.

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Speaker 2: The daughters there said, hey, go get an X ray. Well,

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Speaker 2: let me tell you how that turned out. Take a

607
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: listen to our cut eighteen NBC.

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Speaker 14: They say three hours later, doctor Sali's puccine got to

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Speaker 14: the apartment and saw her in such bad condition. He

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Speaker 14: said he was heading to the clinic to prepare the.

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Speaker 2: R He didn't call an ambulist. He left meet me

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Speaker 2: at the hospital.

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Speaker 14: A family friend says he began driving her to the

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Speaker 14: clinic the doctor ordered, but Delia was fading quickly, so

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Speaker 14: he took her to a nearby hospital, where she was pronounced.

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Speaker 2: And there is Laura Avila take alost An hour cut

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Speaker 2: eight ABC eight.

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Speaker 15: Laura Avila is a dancer, a singer, a real estate

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Speaker 15: agent in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: She's the life. She's the light, you know.

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Speaker 15: But this is not how Laura is today. On October thirtieth,

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Speaker 15: Laura went to what is Mexico with her fiance for

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Speaker 15: plastic surgery on her nose. They traveled to Mexico because

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Speaker 15: the procedure was cheaper.

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Speaker 14: The price, of course, you know, comparing those prices to

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Speaker 14: the ones in the US.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was less than one third of it.

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Speaker 15: They went to a plastic surgery center around noon that day.

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Speaker 15: Her fiance, Enrique Cruz, says, an employee administered anesthesia, but

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Speaker 15: something went terribly wrong.

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Speaker 2: Guys, US women, mostly women, are dying because of international

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Speaker 2: plastic surgery tourism. IRV Brandt, what is your message?

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Speaker 13: Stay in the United States when you travel out of

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Speaker 13: the country. If you are going to travel out of

635
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Speaker 13: the country and go against my advice, do your research

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00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 13: check on this clinic, you know, check these doctors, check

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Speaker 13: their experience. This is literally plain Russian roulette with a handgun.

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Speaker 2: And even researching, IRV. I don't think you can research

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00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: every conceivable circumstance, every conceivable outcome. But you're saying research.

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Speaker 2: I say, don't go. Michael Griffith, what's your message?

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Speaker 11: My message is is if you go overseas and have

642
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 11: a problem, call Michael Griffith. He'll do the best you

643
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 11: can to help you.

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Speaker 2: And the American Express thirty two dollars a month. And OK,

645
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 2: why did I let him back in? I said, God

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Speaker 2: is my then I brought him back in. Michael Griffith

647
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Speaker 2: is actually a renowned international criminal defense attorney that I'm torturing.

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Speaker 2: Dr Bethany, what is your message?

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Speaker 12: My message is you're going to pay one way or

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Speaker 12: the other.

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Speaker 7: You're going to pay.

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Speaker 12: It's not really cheaper. It's not just that if people

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Speaker 12: go down not just for a cheap for surgery, but

654
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Speaker 12: for a vacation, they're going to combine it with something else.

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Speaker 12: So like, oh, I can stay at a resort instead

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Speaker 12: of like a thousand dollars a night like it is

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Speaker 12: in the Four Seasons here, I'll get a great resort

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Speaker 12: there for three hundred dollars a night or two hundred

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Speaker 12: dollars a night. But in the end, if the procedure

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Speaker 12: doesn't look how you want it to, if you have

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Speaker 12: healthy complications, if you come back to the States and

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Speaker 12: then the surgeon is not there to follow you, or

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Speaker 12: you have to seek additional treatments here to correct what

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Speaker 12: was done there. You didn't really save money and you

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Speaker 12: didn't have that great vacation afterwards after all, so it's

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Speaker 12: not really worth it.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Stephanie Poras joining US plastic surgeon in Orlando at

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Speaker 2: Porusplasticsurgery dot com.

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Speaker 6: What is your message, Yeah, I would tread very lightly

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Speaker 6: when considering any overseas surgery, and not just plastic surgery,

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Speaker 6: but any surgical intervention that you are looking for, do

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Speaker 6: some research. Look on the National Institute of Health in

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Speaker 6: that country, find out how the certification process works for

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Speaker 6: that specific surgeon and ask for their certifications, have them

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Speaker 6: email them to you. Do your research, do your homework,

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Speaker 6: and if you're going to go, just be prepared because

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Speaker 6: if a complication does occur, it is going to be

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Speaker 6: costly in the United States to fix it and a

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Speaker 6: lot of surgeons will not fix it if you've gone

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Speaker 6: out of the country, So just be aware and know

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Speaker 6: what's going to potentially happen.

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Speaker 2: Alexisteraeschik join me Colmonline dot com. Investigated reporter my friend

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Speaker 2: Joan Rivers, who was just the greatest comedian ever and

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Speaker 2: off camera whenever I would see her, she would always

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Speaker 2: ask me about the twins. She always knew their names,

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Speaker 2: their ages as each year passed, knew what they were

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Speaker 2: up to.

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Speaker 3: And now she's gone.

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Speaker 7: I remember watching her tell you one time, Nancy, you

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Speaker 7: asked her how she kept her family together, and she said,

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Speaker 7: eat dinner together every night. I remember watching that you

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Speaker 7: had aired that one time.

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Speaker 2: When I think that she went in for a very

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Speaker 2: simple arn joscopy and died. I mean, if an icon

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Speaker 2: like Joe Rivers can pass away in a simple procedure,

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Speaker 2: what's going to happen in another country where these regular

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Speaker 2: moms like you and me go to get a cosmetic procedure.

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Speaker 2: I just I hate to hear about it because it's

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Speaker 2: so easily avoidable.

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Speaker 7: There's nothing that can happen, you know, with Joan Rivers,

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Speaker 7: her daughter Melissa filed a lawsuit and they got a settlement.

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Speaker 11: Against the.

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Speaker 7: Doctor's office. But if you're the places out of the country,

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Speaker 7: there's really no recourse. There's nothing you can do to

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Speaker 7: sue them to make sure that they stop, that they

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Speaker 7: don't do this to anyone else. It's nearly impossible for

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Speaker 7: that to happen out of the country.

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Speaker 2: And you're right, Melissa did get a settlement, but nothing

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Speaker 2: could replies your mom.

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Speaker 3: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: I fear that we will be covering this again. If

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Speaker 2: you have information on an ongoing international plastic surgery tourism crime,

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Speaker 2: please call eight hundred two two five five three two

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Speaker 2: four Goodbysman