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Speaker 1: recording this little old show on President's Day. Gloomy day

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Speaker 1: we will do today, So some thoughts from Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: to Matt Stafford to Travis Hunter, to some takes on

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Speaker 1: hockey All Star Nation thing. That was sweet. And we

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Speaker 1: also do a mail bag at John Middlecoff. We've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of new listeners over the course of the season,

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Speaker 1: and people ask, like, what happens during the off season?

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Speaker 1: channel appreciate everyone that has. And let's talk some football.

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Speaker 2: They'll start with Aaron.

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Speaker 1: Rodgers, who was officially cut I guess unofficially because the

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Speaker 1: it's just a it's a go to football thing when

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Speaker 1: final statement. It's like, no, you can't get this guy

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Speaker 1: Jerry said it with Mike McCarthy. It happens with every person.

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Speaker 1: It's like I wish you the best. No, you want

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Speaker 1: I don't blame them for doing it and it didn't

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Speaker 1: A lot of discussion about the the NBA All Star

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Speaker 1: was giving me everything they had. That's all I can

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Speaker 1: ask for as a consumer. So the moment you quit

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Speaker 1: and I understand. Listen the NBA. I think the average

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Speaker 1: imagine the average salary in the NBA All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: It's probably over forty million dollars. So once you get

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Speaker 1: people that are that rich, they start dictating the terms.

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Speaker 1: And in the NBA, the players have been dictating the

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Speaker 1: terms for a long time. They don't even give a

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Speaker 1: shit about the regular seam. So you wonders, like, why

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Speaker 1: are the ratings suck? Well, it's because I tune it on,

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Speaker 1: you know, in a random January or December or February,

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Speaker 1: and like some guys aren't playing, No one gives a shit.

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Speaker 1: So the moment you don't care, I don't care, and

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Speaker 1: the moment I don't think it matters like that, that's

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Speaker 1: a problem. And I've said it forever about the NFL.

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Speaker 1: They kind of just have it built in just because

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Speaker 1: every game matters. There are only so many. It's just

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Speaker 1: the nature of the sport. If the NFL, if you

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Speaker 1: could play, and they would, if they could three games

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Speaker 1: a week and instead of a seventeen game schedule it

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Speaker 1: was like a fifty game schedule, it probably wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: as powerful. It definitely would not. So I think these

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Speaker 1: all star games are dead and whatever the NHL did,

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Speaker 1: because in an NHL game a lot like a football game,

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Speaker 1: you're either all You're either all in or or it's

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Speaker 1: gonna fail immediately and clearly with whatever they got going

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Speaker 1: on with this national kind of round robin thing, these

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Speaker 1: guys care. And maybe it's something to do with putting on,

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Speaker 1: you know, your country's colors, but it worked. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not even a hockey guy. I fly in for the

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Speaker 1: there's an edge to the sport that really only football

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Speaker 1: can really bring. But they're playing on ice. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just those guys are savages, and it was really

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Speaker 1: I also think it just brought into light like the NBA,

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Speaker 1: Like I like, your dunk contest hasn't mattered in a decade.

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Speaker 1: Your three point contest is DA, You're just done, and

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Speaker 1: that's okay. Like some things run its course, and in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, the Pro Bowl ran its course. You can't

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Speaker 1: even convince guys to show up. It's like, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: not we used to flag football game. You just get

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Speaker 1: to go there. You get a bonus in your contract,

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Speaker 1: you get to drink, you know, take your wife or

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Speaker 1: whatever to Miami or Vegas or used to be in Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: And for a long time that was a big deal

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Speaker 1: because if you played in the nineties, even if you

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Speaker 1: were making a couple million dollars free trip, everyone always went.

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Speaker 1: That's why when you go back see some of the

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Speaker 1: highlights of the nineties or the early two thousand's, like

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Speaker 1: all the famous guys were there. Now I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just I'll take my own family to Cancun. I'll

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Speaker 1: go play golf. I don't want to come. And that's

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Speaker 1: the NBA All Star Game still like forces these guys

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Speaker 1: to come, but they can't force them to play hard.

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Speaker 1: And you didn't have to do that with the NHL guys.

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Speaker 1: They just they just played. And that was a fucking brawl.

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Speaker 1: I mean, those two brothers that started to fight and

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Speaker 1: they showed the video of their dad fighting Claude Lemieux,

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Speaker 1: who whose daughter is married to a buddy of mine,

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Speaker 1: Hunter Bishop Uh Claude Lemieux, So uh, her name is

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Speaker 1: actually Claudia Hunter plays for the Giants and the Berry guy.

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Speaker 1: But man, that that that hockey game, that that that

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Speaker 1: made my weekend. Okay, let's end with this. Uh. Let's

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Speaker 1: welcome everybody to Chasing Challenges brought to you by Microsoft

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Speaker 1: and in the NFL. Just like in the business world,

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Speaker 1: overcoming obstacles is the key to success. Microsoft empowers business

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Speaker 1: decisions makers with AI solutions, simplified cloud and data management,

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Speaker 1: and trustworthy, responsible technology to turn challenges into opportunities. In

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Speaker 1: this segment, we explore some of the biggest challenges being

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Speaker 1: faced in the NFL and how they can be overcome.

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Speaker 1: Whatever challenge you're facing, Microsoft empowers you with the experts

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Speaker 1: to say bring it on. This week, we're discussing the

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Speaker 1: challenges faced by teams like the Eagles. When you win big,

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Speaker 1: and the Eagles just won the Super Bowl, you you

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Speaker 1: feel a debt of gratitude toward the guys that carried

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Speaker 1: you there. And when you watch the Eagles down the stretch,

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Speaker 1: their defensive line dominated and Josh Schwett has been a

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Speaker 1: key player for them for years. And Milton Williams was

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Speaker 1: a draft pick for them who not only came on

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Speaker 1: this season, was dominant down the stretch of the year.

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Speaker 1: And when you play defensive line, especially defensive tackle, and

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Speaker 1: you hit free agency, you get a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, the Eagles had led the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs in the Super Bowl, and when they hit free agency,

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Speaker 1: Javon Hargrave got eighty million dollars from the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 1: And I think with you're the Eagles, and just like

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Speaker 1: a lot of good teams in the NFL, the key

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Speaker 1: to not only next week, but the next couple weeks

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Speaker 1: leading into free agency is figuring out who can we

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Speaker 1: live without, Because when you have high level players who

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Speaker 1: are proven to be winning players and guys who can

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Speaker 1: excel at the highest level, it's hard to let him go.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes you think, well, we got to keep them,

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Speaker 1: we have to match that money, we got to pay

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Speaker 1: him early. And I think in this situation, for good teams,

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Speaker 1: you got to figure out, can we replace this guy

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Speaker 1: and at what cost? Will it take it take us

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Speaker 1: to find a spot to get a player to equal

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Speaker 1: eighty percent of his value. Can we get a guy

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Speaker 1: that equals eighty percent of his value at a tenth

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Speaker 1: of the cost. Because we saw the forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: last year. They made the Super Bowl and Ayuk was

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Speaker 1: their best wide receiver and they felt obligated to give

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Speaker 1: a bunch of money. Then he messed with them and

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Speaker 1: it was like, guys, you don't really run a pas offense.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna pay this guy thirty million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna let him hold you over the barrel. And

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Speaker 1: I think if they could do it over again, they

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Speaker 1: would have traded him before the draft. And these are

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Speaker 1: the tough decisions teams like the Eagles have to make,

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Speaker 1: not only with their free agents, with players on their roster,

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Speaker 1: like who do we have to keep so we can

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Speaker 1: continue to win, but also keep financial flexibility. And that's

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Speaker 1: why general managers make millions of dollars to make these decisions.

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Speaker 1: You have to balance not only your emotional tie toward

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Speaker 1: the individual. These are guys you drafted. These are guys

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Speaker 1: that you have been a huge part of developing over

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Speaker 1: the years and believed in from the jump and then

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Speaker 1: they've turned into everything you want them to turn into.

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Speaker 1: But are they worth the price which you have to

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Speaker 1: pay to keep them? And that's really what these next

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Speaker 1: couple weeks are in the NFL. So that's it for

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Speaker 1: this week's Chasing Challenges. Remember Microsoft's AI solutions empower you

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Speaker 1: to take bold steps and make informed decisions, marking new

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Speaker 1: finding innovative solutions and reaching new possibilities. Visit Microsoft dot

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Speaker 1: com Slash challenges to learn more. Okay, let's do a

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Speaker 1: little thing we like to call the Middlecoff mail Bag

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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff Instagram. Fire in those dms,

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Speaker 1: get your questions answered here on the show. Very easy

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Speaker 1: to get involved. Just fire in to those direct messages.

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Speaker 1: Start with Andrew question for the bag. A lot of

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Speaker 1: talk about the Chargers going out and bringing in a

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Speaker 1: top receiver such as Tyreek Davante or T Higgins, or

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Speaker 1: even drafting in one in the first round. While this

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Speaker 1: is important to address, the offensive and defensive line need

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Speaker 1: to continue to be fortified in Mike Lombardi's book Gridiron Genius.

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Speaker 1: He talks about how Bill Walsh always believed that a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver is the last position you address. This was

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Speaker 1: in relation to the Niners drafting Jerry Rice in the

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Speaker 1: mid eighties, feeling as though he was the last piece

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Speaker 1: and they had already won. I think they had already

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Speaker 1: won two. So you just have to look at the

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Speaker 1: guy running the show. Jim Harbaugh is not some guy

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Speaker 1: that is going to break the bank for a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver or trade a lot in terms of draft capital

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Speaker 1: for one of these guys. It's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: To me, they will continue to build the line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmage and make their defense dominant. That doesn't mean he

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Speaker 1: won't acquire offensive players. They drafted Lad McConkie, who's a

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Speaker 1: stud in the second round. Like to me, they will

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Speaker 1: be all over a starting running back on the second

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Speaker 1: day of the draft. That'll be something that interests them greatly.

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Speaker 1: Do I picture them getting super aggressive and trading for

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. I just do not. I saw something on

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Speaker 1: the Internet of like, could they trade for Mark Andrews? Like,

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be smart about the skill position

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Speaker 1: guys that is not how Jim Harbaugh has played. When

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Speaker 1: he dominated with the Niners and when he won a

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Speaker 1: national championship with Michigan, it was kicking your ass in

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. So I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Four to five the line of scrimmage. That is what

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh does, believes it. So they don't need to

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Speaker 1: tackle now, but they need more defensive linemen, like you know,

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Speaker 1: Bosa is probably not gonna be on the team, and

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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack is a free agent. So I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: worried about them doing something stupid when it comes to

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Speaker 1: skill guys not saying that they won't take swings, but

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Speaker 1: they're not going to operate like your typical team. Been

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Speaker 1: listening since the Bengals Super Bowl. It's in a while

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Speaker 1: now you feel about the Bengals hiring Al Golden. I

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be pretty good, but it's hard to

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Speaker 1: imagine that he'll be a huge upgrade from lou An Arumo.

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Speaker 1: I had forgotten because I saw a clip of his

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Speaker 1: like an interview that he did with you know, some

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Speaker 1: Bengals employees, like in the media department was how he

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Speaker 1: had coached. He was a linebacker coach there before he

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Speaker 1: went to Notre Dame. So he's comfortable with Zach Taylor

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Speaker 1: the operation. He clearly is a good defensive coach, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean he was a huge, huge part of the

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame operation the last couple of years. I mean

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Speaker 1: this year, they were a defensive team. The big reason

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Speaker 1: they were in the National Championship was Al Golden. So

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Speaker 1: I remember him when I lived in Philly he was

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Speaker 1: the head coach at Temple. I know he's really well

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Speaker 1: thought of, but I'm with you, like it felt like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, injuries, letting guys walk out the door. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the defense early part of the season was atrocious in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it couldn't have been much worse. I mean

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Speaker 1: that one game where you blew I mean, honestly, the

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Speaker 1: difference of you being in the playoffs and you not

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Speaker 1: being in the playoffs is the one loss to Baltimore

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Speaker 1: where you blew two to ten point leads in the

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Speaker 1: second in the fourth quarter. That game alone, Like, you

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Speaker 1: win that game, you win ten games. And the defense

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Speaker 1: was bad. But like a couple of years ago, everyone

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Speaker 1: thought lou was a really good defensive coach, and everyone

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Speaker 1: gives where he end up going Indy. Everyone thinks that, ah,

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Speaker 1: it's a great coach. That's a good hire by Shane

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Speaker 1: Syken and Chris Baaler and I agree. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: I think there aren't many good There are good offensive

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Speaker 1: coaches that have guys over achieve, right, Like Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 1: can make Sam Darnold look like a pro bowler, and

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Speaker 1: maybe he is, maybe he's not. But like you get

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Speaker 1: a lot of credit as an offensive coach. We've seen

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan do it with Garoppolo and Purdy. On defense,

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Speaker 1: like Belichick became a legend coaching Lawrence Taylor, Dick Lebo

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Speaker 1: coached all those dudes with the Steelers. Right, you usually

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Speaker 1: become a high level defense. Think about some of the

643
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Speaker 1: defensive guys that have been hired over the last decade.

644
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Speaker 1: I saw the Niners get two guys hired, Demiko and Sala.

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Speaker 1: Well why did they get hired? Their roster was loaded

646
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: on defense loaded. When Vrabel got hired from Houston to

647
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: the Texans, it was viewed like this guy just knows

648
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Even though I think the Texans Actually

649
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: that year had a bad statistically defensive year, so that

650
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Speaker 1: might be a bad example. But my point is you

651
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: can't really be a good defensive coach unless you got dudes.

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Speaker 1: It's usually not Well, they had Middlecoff and uh this

653
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: other dude named Billy who was kind of shitty at corner,

654
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: and they just they had the best pass defense in

655
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: the league. Like, it's not usually the way it works.

656
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: Usually the best defensive coordinators have sweet defensive players. I mean,

657
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: look at Belichick even in New England with Flores and

658
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: Patricia and Romeo Crenell. Think how many awesome defense of

659
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: players they had over the years, from Seymour to Will

660
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: Fork to Teddy Bruce Kei to Mike Rabel to Rodney

661
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: Harrison to Junior Seau when he was older, to all

662
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: the guys they had the last decade. Like, you've got

663
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: to have good defensive personnel. You can overcome it on

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Speaker 1: offense with scheme, it's you. You can only go so

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00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: far with scheme on defense, Like, it is a lot

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Speaker 1: about how good the guys are. Big fan of the

667
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: show started a movie podcast a few years back. Any

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00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: suggestions to grow listeners or just overall does and don'ts

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Speaker 1: on the industry. Also, what's an underrated performance from an

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Speaker 1: actor or actress in a movie? Thanks? John, keep up

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00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: the phenomenal work. Somehow, I watched on YouTube recently. I

672
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: watch a lot of mob content. So there was like

673
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: this behind the scenes of the making of Goodfellas, and

674
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: you're just realizing, like, now the this isn't an underrated performance,

675
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: but just how good de Niro, Leota, and Peshi were

676
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: in that movie. It's like, I just don't think it

677
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: gets any better. And it turns out they all were

678
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: good friends. Like the the rapport they had on screen

679
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 1: wasn't just because they were elite actors and they were,

680
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: but just that they really really got along. I'd have

681
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: to think about I really don't, you know the sad part.

682
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: As you get older, I don't even have kids yet.

683
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't even watch that many movies anymore,

684
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: and when I do, I find myself kind of disappointed.

685
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: It's very rare that I watch a new movie did

686
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: I go That was good? And sometimes you just watch

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Speaker 1: an old movie You're like, that was sweet. I just

688
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 1: want to I just want to relive this movie again,

689
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: and it you know, it used to happen more. Probably

690
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. With DVD's, you would just pop in

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Speaker 1: a DVD, and I've said this the downfall of cable.

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Speaker 1: The one good part about cable is you would just

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Speaker 1: scroll and then up on random channels that I don't

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Speaker 1: end up on any more on YouTube TV. But I'm

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00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: trying to think if I I haven't really watched that

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Speaker 1: many movies lately.

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Speaker 2: I watched.

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Speaker 1: No Country for Old Men recently. I mean, that was

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Speaker 1: that was phenomenal. I think I think Josh Brolin, it's

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00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: just an incredible actor, Scario that movie. He went on

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Speaker 1: a heater there for a while. I would say, uh,

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Speaker 1: and the one this the dude Goggins who's in The

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Speaker 1: New White Lotus. He was also in The Shield, which

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00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: I think most people would argue is the greatest show

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Speaker 1: ever produced by FX. And I've never watched it, though

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00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about, like, if I'm bored, just start

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00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: watching it, because I've heard this is a good show. Justified.

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00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: He's also in that. He's just he's just good, Like

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00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: he's in something I'm just gonna watch. But I would say, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing this by myself, right, I have the

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00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: power of Collins just distribution channel, which it's been a

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Speaker 1: huge part of the growth of the podcast over the

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Speaker 1: last four or five years. Obviously, YouTube is one area

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Speaker 1: where you can get organic growth, right. It can just

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Speaker 1: get you in front of people in terms of a

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Speaker 1: search engine that other places cannot. I'm not on TikTok,

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Speaker 1: not because I don't believe in its power. It's clearly huge.

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Speaker 1: It was just I only have so much bandwidth. I'm

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Speaker 1: not even that active on social media as much anymore.

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Speaker 1: I try to stay away just for I just feel

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Speaker 1: I'm better at my job and more present in my

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Speaker 1: life when I just not stuck on the phone. But

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Speaker 1: I think like posting stuff on Twitter can only get

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Speaker 1: you so far, and it's been like that for a

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Speaker 1: long time now, Like you're not going to grow organically

726
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: on Twitter Instagram. I think by far the best thing

727
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: to do is everything you do as a podcast, do

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Speaker 1: it as well on YouTube, because that's an area where

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Speaker 1: you get organic growth. I don't think anything else matches that,

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Speaker 1: maybe like LinkedIn. Honestly, Twitter does not, Instagram does not.

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Speaker 1: I can't even sign into Facebook if I wanted to.

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Speaker 1: I've been locked out of that forever, and I can't

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Speaker 1: speak to TikTok, but I would say YouTube would be

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Speaker 1: an area where you got to get involved. The other

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Speaker 1: thing is and listen, I've done an independent podcast and

736
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: had success and made money. It is really really you

737
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Speaker 1: can only go so far. And this is one thing

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Speaker 1: I've learned as I've gotten older, Like you need help,

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Speaker 1: so like you can only do so much on your own.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, try and put as much effort and

741
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Speaker 1: consistency doing podcasts every day, pumping out as much content

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00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: as you can and getting new things out consistently is huge.

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Speaker 1: But like that, you could be good at it, and

744
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Speaker 1: you could be consistent at it, and you can hit

745
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: roadblocks and it can like it might not even be

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00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: your own fault. It's just because you can't get in

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Speaker 1: front of other people's eyes or their ears, and there's

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Speaker 1: nothing you can really do about that on your own.

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00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: You need help from someone else. So you know, can

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Speaker 1: you get even just a little known actor or people involved,

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Speaker 1: a director or anyone involved in the movie industry to

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00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: come on. That would be a recommendation. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you don't know anyone in the movie industry, but

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00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: just start hitting them up on LinkedIn or dms on

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Speaker 1: Instagram and see if you can get them on as

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Speaker 1: a guest and maybe that leads to something. Mail back question,

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00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: do coaches sign NDAs? I don't know why we don't

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00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: see more coaches talk about what's going on behind the scenes.

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00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,959
Speaker 1: For example, I don't think Robert Sala is a bad coach.

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Speaker 1: I think you went to a team with no quarterback

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Speaker 1: and insane cuckoo owner. Why would Sala not come into

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Speaker 1: the press and essentially in a professional manner the Jets

763
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: are insane and have terrible ownership and then maybe open

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Speaker 1: themself up to better job opportunities. The only thing I

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00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: can think of is that he's signed an MDA and

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00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: can't say certain things in public. Well, all these people

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00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL are partners, right, So some owners are crazy.

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00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: Other owners are probably less crazy. But you can't be

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Speaker 1: a billionaire in running an NFL team without just, you know,

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Speaker 1: being some things that most humans are not going to

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00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: relate to. I mean, the only people that can relate

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00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: to each other in the little fraternity there are in

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Speaker 1: are the other owners. So if you come out and

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Speaker 1: just completely shit on Woody Johnson, Let's say Robert Sala

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Speaker 1: had come out and did a tell all, you know,

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Speaker 1: like with the athletics like Mike Silver or Diana Russini

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00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: or whatever, Albert Breer quote after quote after quote after quote.

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00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: Where does that help him? Because if I was another owner,

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00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: I'd go listen, like, yeah, Woody's a little nuts. But

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Speaker 1: what if I hired him and he doesn't like what

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Speaker 1: he's doing here and he starts doing that to me

782
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: and he starts outing all the dirty laundry in our building?

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00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 1: So it gets back to Robert Sala and just people

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Speaker 1: in general. And listen, I'd never signed an NDA when

785
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: I work in the NFL. I've never heard of that.

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00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 1: And I got buddies that are gms and not saying

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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. I don't see what you get out

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Speaker 1: of it, right, Like what's the like we all get it,

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00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: like everyone acknowledges. And listen, I is Robert Sala a

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00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: good head coach or not? I think the jury would

791
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: be out. Is the Jets a tough place to function?

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00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: Does Robert Sala get the majority of the blame for

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Speaker 1: the Jets? No? Rogers gets a lot? Whatdy Johnson gets

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00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: a lot? So I would say that I just don't

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Speaker 1: even think you need to like what's to be gained

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Speaker 1: because you want to continue to do business with the

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Speaker 1: other people that are sitting in that guy seat. And

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Speaker 1: if they think that you might do to them what

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Speaker 1: you did to him, I'm not paying you millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's it's like a calculated decision. It's

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00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: just not worth it, you know. I think a lot

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00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: of people make those decisions when it comes to business

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00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: and you've had a scorned relationship with and this is

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00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: not even just football. I think a lot of people

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00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: listening to this can relate is it worth it to

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00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: make a stink over this or just like, I know

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00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: what happened. People in my orbit know what happens, and

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00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: we'll just move on. And I think there's a balancing

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00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: act with that. And there's so much money online. When

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Speaker 1: you're someone like Robert Salig, you're trying to millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: I think the forty nine ers has made him like

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00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: the highest paid coordinator in the league or one of them.

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00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: He's making like four or five million dollars. So it's

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00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: like and he was interviewing with a bunch of other

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Speaker 1: teams to be their head coach, which I don't know

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Speaker 1: if happens, if he comes out and goes scorts to

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00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: earth on the Jets, because it would scare other owners.

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Speaker 1: So I really think it's more about all these guys

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00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: have some similarities that way, and if you scare them off,

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00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: like they're ultimately the ones with the money. Like this

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Speaker 1: is not like Robert Sala can't just become some entrepreneur, right,

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Speaker 1: if he wants to be a football coach, he has

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Speaker 1: to work for owners. That is the shitty part about

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Speaker 1: the business they're in, which there are a lot of

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00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: good things, right, the money, the fame, a lot comes

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Speaker 1: with it. But if you want to coach football, especially

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Speaker 1: in the pro level, you have to work for one

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Speaker 1: of the thirty two guys. That's your only options. True,

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Speaker 1: Like if you want to do industry X, you pick it,

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Speaker 1: you can go work for the biggest people in those industries,

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Speaker 1: or you could try to do it on your own.

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00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: Robert Sala cannot. So I think that's a big reason.

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Speaker 1: And listen, he's not alone. I mean a lot of

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Speaker 1: people go through crazy situations. But it's also why a

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Speaker 1: lot of these stories that leaked about the Jets like

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Speaker 1: pretty clear where they're coming from Uh, do you think

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Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey regrets retiring as early as he did and

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00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: missing out on a Super Bowl ring does it diminish

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Speaker 1: what impact he had for the Eagles if they were

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00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: able to win without him, well, they replaced him with

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00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, Landon Dickerson got a big contract. Now he's

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00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: a guard, but he can also play center. And Cam

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00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: Jurgens was drafted. Was he drafted in the second round

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Speaker 1: or was he drafted in the third? Cam Jurgens was

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Speaker 1: drafted in the second round, so I mean, and was

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00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: a Pro bowler this year. I mean, the Eagles do

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00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: a good job of drafting. They're probably one of the

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Speaker 1: rare teams that could just have Fletcher Cox and Kelsey

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Speaker 1: retire and just have plug and play guys. And obviously

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter at this point in time is better than Fletcher.

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Speaker 1: You know, Kelsey's still pretty damn good. Kelsey said last

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00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: year it was his body. It just didn't work. So

853
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Speaker 1: do I think he would have retired if he thought

854
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: his body could still function. I do not, because while

855
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: he makes a lot of money from podcasting, if you

856
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: could make fifteen twenty million dollars playing for a really

857
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: good team, you would continue to do that, But he

858
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: said it's just he was just in a lot of pain.

859
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: So I think the reason that that he retired had

860
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: nothing to do with like on the fence about are

861
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: we going to be good or are we going to

862
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: be bad? And just more had to do with my

863
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: body and I'm in a lot of pain and can

864
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: I play with my little kids? And I think he

865
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: talked about that last year. If you're Andrew Berry the

866
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: Browns GM, what's your order of importance? The number two

867
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: back draft pick? Honoring Miles trade request? What do you

868
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: do with Deshaun Watson? Second mail back question? In your opinion?

869
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: Can you rank the top three to five positions on

870
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: a football team in order? Well, it's all about the

871
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: draft selection Number two in the middle of February is

872
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: not as pressing of an issue as do we have

873
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: to trade Miles Garrett? Right? Will? Can we make him

874
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: an offer over the next week in front of his

875
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: agent at the Combine that he would accept, Hey, we'll

876
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: give you one hundred and fifty million dollars guaranteed, we

877
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: don't want to trade you. Will you accept that offer?

878
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: If he says no, I'm not gonna take any of

879
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: your money. This is not about the money. This is

880
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to play there anymore. That has to

881
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: become your number one option. I did see some people saying,

882
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: could they package Deshaun Watson from Miles Garrett. I don't

883
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: think that's an option. I think you're just kind of

884
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: stuck with Deshaun Watson. I don't really think that's an issue. Like,

885
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: I just think you're stuck with him. So I think

886
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: your only issues right now is what do we do

887
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: with Miles Garrett? Do we trade him? And then if

888
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: we do, then we start focusing on the draft. But

889
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's on our team, his Achilles doesn't work, and

890
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: we just nothing we can do. I mean I think

891
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: that I don't think he is a He's a movable player.

892
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: I would say quarterback. I would say tackle and edge,

893
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: But it depends like am I just getting a good

894
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: edge player or am I getting TJ. Watt or Miles Garrett?

895
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: Am I getting a good tackle? Or am I getting

896
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson or Trent Williams? So like same thing with quarterback.

897
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: If I get Trent Williams or Lane Johnson or I

898
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: get like the eighteenth best quarterback, it's all about where

899
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: you need to pull the trigger if you're talking about

900
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: the draft, right, but I think it goes quarterback. Clear

901
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: number one. Two A and two B are pass, rusher

902
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: and tackle, and I would have corner number three. Question

903
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: for the mailbag, what developed your ability in understanding football?

904
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: Were you a player in high school or college? I'm

905
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: interested in your journey. Sorry if you've already answered this.

906
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: Have you thought about adding an option to join your

907
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: YouTube channel for a monthly fee? I think there would

908
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: be a lot of people that would support you and

909
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: your fiance. Yeah, I mean this is our monthly fee

910
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: is the people we have associated with the podcast that

911
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: pay a premium to advertise on the show. If I

912
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: was going to do some monthly fee, it wouldn't be

913
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: through the YouTube channel. But I hear what you're saying.

914
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: I would say my understanding of football was developed of

915
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: working in football. I mean when I worked at Fresno

916
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: State for two years, I worked in recruiting and I

917
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: worked with Pat Hill and Drew Hill. Well, Pat Hill

918
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: had been a coach forever and had worked for Bill Belichick.

919
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: So for a couple of years, I think three or

920
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: four years he worked in Cleveland with Bill Belichick. He

921
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: was the assistant offensive line coach. The offensive line coach

922
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: was Kirk Farns. He drew the cards every day against

923
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: Nick Say been running their defense. And then obviously when

924
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: I got there in O eight, he had ran a

925
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: football program which had produced a ton of NFL guys

926
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: for a decade. And Drew Hill has now been the

927
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: player personnel director at Oklahoma under Bob Stoops, Lincoln Riley

928
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: and now Bred Venables. So I got to learn football

929
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: from them, and then I took that knowledge to the NFL,

930
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: and I got to learn from all the guys I

931
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: worked with, right, I mean every day I worked with

932
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: Howie and Lewis Riddick and Brett Veach, Mike Bradway who's

933
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: on Veach's staff, to our coaching staff, which included guys

934
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: like Doug Peterson, Matt Naggy, Todd Bowles, Howard Mudd, Sean McDermott.

935
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: So I just got to be around all these guys

936
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: and just what do you think you're do in a

937
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: football Officuse you talk football, so you just and then

938
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: going into practice being around players, you kind of learn.

939
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: You just you just kind of learn. And you've watched

940
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: football your whole life, and I still watch foot so

941
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: all that stuff. It's kind of my base how I

942
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: learned football in my twenties and then over the last decade,

943
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: I've my own thoughts on it, and then I just

944
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: talk about it. So I guess that's long winded way

945
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: of saying I was taught. You can't learn this stuff,

946
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: you know, just by keeping your fingers crossed. I had

947
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: to learn from being around other people, and I was

948
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: lucky to be around people that knew what they were doing.

949
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: A big NFL fan here from Morocco living in Dubai.

950
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to go to Dubai. I wonder if

951
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: I convinced Maria if we can go there for honeymoon.

952
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: I have a question regarding Kyle Shanahan. Is he on

953
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: the hot seat now that Sirianni and McVeagh won. Especially

954
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: Sirianni's team that beat the Chiefs forty nine ers lost

955
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls to them. He gets tight every fourth

956
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: quarter in the Super Bowl and he lost if you

957
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: include the Atlanta one as well. I have struggled with

958
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: that one. He was a I've never heard of a

959
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: coordinator who gets blamed for a Super Bowl loss like

960
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: he gets blamed, like Pete Carroll gets lost, gets blamed

961
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson when he was not the offensive coordinator

962
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: in that Super Bowl, for them throwing on the goal line.

963
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: They don't blame. I don't. I don't know who's their coordinator,

964
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: Bevill Schottenheimer. You never hear it's just Pete Carroll, Pee Carrol,

965
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 1: Pee Carroll. It's somehow Dan Quinn does not get blame.

966
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan does. But I hear what you're saying. I

967
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: do think there's gonna be tangible pressure on I don't.

968
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't blame anyone if they don't have it in

969
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: front of them, and I don't even have it in

970
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: front of me. But I do know that their schedule

971
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: this year, I remember when it came is a joke.

972
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: We don't know like exact dates. But the teams are playing,

973
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: they have a last play schedule, they play. I think

974
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: the Division plays the AFC South, which is obviously not good.

975
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: So to me, anything less than like eleven or twelve

976
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: wins for the forty nine ers is a complete disaster.

977
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: And anytime you're paying a guy fifteen sixteen, seventeen million

978
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: dollars to be your head coach. There's a lot of

979
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: pressure on So I don't think he's on the hot

980
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: seat because who are you gonna fire him for? But

981
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: is there pressure on Kyle Shanahan? Fuck yeah there is

982
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: and there should be. It's like time to win. How

983
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: is bo Knicks any different from Mac Jones? I guess

984
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: he is more mobile, but doesn't he have the same

985
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: qualities but way more support. I think bo Knicks is

986
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: way more talented than mac Jones. Mobility, I mean he's

987
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: dramatically more mobile, and I think he's got a better arm,

988
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: you know, part of the Mac Jones I would say

989
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: package that I thought people were getting when they drafted him,

990
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: because his comp was like a little bit more athletic

991
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, who's like really serious guy, and it kind

992
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: of came out like, yeah, I don't know if he's

993
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: like his character not bad, but no one's comparing him

994
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: to like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. I think that's

995
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: really what he was gonna hang his hat on. Was

996
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: like the super focused, non fuck around guy, totally coachable,

997
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: and like Belichick had issues with him. They couldn't stand

998
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: him toward the end. So it's like, wait, you're not

999
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: as talented and your intangibles aren't elite. Like That's one

1000
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 1: thing with bo Nicks. His intangibles are pretty high. They're

1001
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: actually through the roof, and I think he's just physically

1002
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: more gifted than Mac Jones. Uh, excellent show. I listen

1003
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: on Spotify. Can you put it out there that the

1004
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: Commanders need to focus on the O line for their

1005
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: team building this offseason? Most people will overlook this and

1006
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: say the defense needs to improve because the offense did

1007
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: so well, But there will absolutely be a regression next

1008
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 1: season when other defenses adjust to the Kingsbury game plan

1009
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: and discover Jalen's weaknesses, and another regression when Kingsbury. Ultimately,

1010
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: if they do not shore up their O line, the

1011
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: O line needs to be the priority. For God's sakes.

1012
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: Do not let anyone say anything about team building with

1013
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: offensive skill positions. I think I read that you guys

1014
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: betting favorite to land Miles Garrett if he's traded. Uh yeah, listen, Uh,

1015
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: think about the team they're going up against, the team

1016
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: they're chasing in their division. Well, even if Sweat and

1017
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: Milton Williams leave, they are still going to have Nolan Smith,

1018
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: who's going to be a double digit sack guy. Jalen Carter,

1019
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: who's one of the best defensive linemen in the NFL,

1020
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: who how he probably draft this year. Probably another defensive

1021
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: lineman who was one of the guys they drafted last year.

1022
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: I forget his name, but he was the guy that

1023
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: when Howie called him to say the Eagles were picking him,

1024
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: called him big Pimpin'. I think that guy made some

1025
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: plays in the playoffs. He's a defensive tackle. So I

1026
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: hear you like, if I have the quarterback, what did

1027
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: Harbad do for Justin Herbert offensive lineman and what did

1028
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: he say? They're the tip of the spear. So I'm

1029
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: totally with you. I would draft O lineman, O lineman

1030
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: and D lineman. If you told me they only draft

1031
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: O linemen and D lineman in this draft, I would

1032
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: say it was the right move. A question for the mailbag.

1033
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: How overstated is it when draft analysts say deep position

1034
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: groups means some guys will fall later than their talent suggests.

1035
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: It feels like corner and interior D linemen were talked

1036
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: about that way last year, and there was a run

1037
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: on both to start the second round. Feels to me

1038
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: like it will happen this year with running back. I

1039
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: think what they mean is is like if there was

1040
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: a depth at defensive tackle, right, if there were only

1041
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: three good defensive tackles, all the defensive tackles would be

1042
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: gone in the top fifteen picks. Well, instead, people go, well,

1043
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: there's going to be ten defensive tackles. I'm going to

1044
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: take the offensive tackle or the offensive you know player,

1045
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 1: or defensive end or whoever, just another position with the

1046
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: eleventh pick, knowing I can get that same position, maybe

1047
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: a little bit less of a player, but a guy

1048
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: that can start for me at pick forty two, whatever

1049
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: the numbers come out to be. I think that's more

1050
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: when they are describing the scenario in which you are

1051
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: describing what they mean. But I hear you, no one

1052
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: actually knows beside the top couple picks, who and where

1053
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: people are going to get drafted. No one has any clue,

1054
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: right because it doesn't a GM or a coach doesn't

1055
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: help them at all to leak out to anybody, specifically

1056
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: the media, where and when they're going to take a

1057
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: player if they're drafting like sixth or eighth or twelfth

1058
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: or fifteenth, who they like and when we find out

1059
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: who you like. Good teams take advantage of it because

1060
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: they jump you in the draft and they take that

1061
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: player if they want. Just an observation, But over the

1062
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: last few years, it seems like defensive or CEO type

1063
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: coaches who focus more on culture and leadership are succeeding

1064
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: at a higher level than scheme guys and play caller types.

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01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: Sirianni Campbell, Quinn Demiico, Todd Bowles have all won playoff games,

1066
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: while coaches like day Ball, Mike McDaniel, Kevin O'Connell, Arthur Smith,

1067
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: Shane Stikein have zero playoff wins and are already being fired.

1068
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: The NFL is full of smart coaches, and leadership seems

1069
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: like the important quality in a coach. Why are these young,

1070
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: hot offensive coordinator candidates always place at the top of

1071
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: the list for coaching vacancies. Are teams looking for wrong qualities?

1072
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: We'll think about it. How is a coordinator? Do I

1073
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: judge your leadership ability? How it's It's unquantifiable. Now you

1074
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: can argue you know it when I meet you or

1075
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: when I'm around you, But I don't have the ability

1076
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: to rank. Like go to a stats page and get

1077
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: a ranking where I can go to a stats page

1078
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: and go Shane Sikin led the best offense, Ben Johnson

1079
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: led the best offense, so and so led the best defense,

1080
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 1: so and so has the best passing offense. It's easy

1081
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: to quantify, well, think who's interviewing them, an owner, what's

1082
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: an owner's background? Typically business? Well, what are you doing? Business? Spreadsheets?

1083
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: Numbers very black and white. When you're dealing with coaches,

1084
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: especially CEO types, like, yeah, Mike Tomlin's got something no

1085
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: one else has, But how do I quantify that? And

1086
01:01:55,600 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: some people see it, some people don't. So I I

1087
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: just think it's really complicated. I don't think there's I

1088
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I just don't think there's a great answer

1089
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: to the reason why these guys are not hired all

1090
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: the time and those guys fail as well. You know,

1091
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: just because you're supposed to be the CEO head, you know,

1092
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: head coach, doesn't mean you're gonna succeed. So I think

1093
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: it's it's like a draft pick. It is very, very

1094
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 1: difficult to figure out who's a good coach and who's

1095
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: not a good coach when they're an assistant, right because

1096
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: just because you're a great play caller, does not mean

1097
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: that it's going to translate to be a head coach.

1098
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: You use the example with Arthur Smith didn't translate Shane Sichin.

1099
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: You know this year he was overwhelmed being a head coach.

1100
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: So I don't have a great answer for you. Besides,

1101
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: it's really really difficult. It is not easy. Sirianni benefits

1102
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: a lot, his owner has no owner, spends more money,

1103
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: and he has the GM in the league. Tyler from

1104
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: West Virginia, big fan, Avid Golfer just broke eighty a

1105
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: couple times last year. Congrats, big accomplishment. I think the

1106
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: average golfer can't break a hundred. It's pretty obvious big

1107
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: Packer fans, pretty obvious that they're a good team. But

1108
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: a few players away, just wondering what you would do

1109
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: if you were goody. When it comes to free agency,

1110
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: in the draft, we clearly need a wide receiver, pass rusher,

1111
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: maybe a corner depending on the Alexander situation. Do we

1112
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: bring DeVante back draft another young wide receiver? Do we

1113
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: take a big swing on Crosby or Garrett? What's you're thinking?

1114
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: I would say historically, you guys have been I wouldn't

1115
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: say against the big move, but it hasn't really been

1116
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: your mo as a franchise. So trading for Crosby, trading

1117
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: for Garrett feels like things Sean McVay, Andy Reid, Howie Roseman,

1118
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: the Niners, Like I have a hard time picturing the

1119
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers actually doing that. The Davante situation, Do

1120
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: you want to bring him back? I don't know. Sometimes

1121
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's like you guys broke up for a reason,

1122
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: and I just think sometimes it's like it's over. There's

1123
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: no reason to try to take her back on him

1124
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: a date, like it's it ended for the correct reasons.

1125
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: You guys pivoted off Aaron off Davante, and like now

1126
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: is a business? Can you get him back for cheap?

1127
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: Does Davante think he's like a twenty million dollar wide receiver?

1128
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: Can will he played for like five million dollars? If

1129
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: I were them, would I be all over Max Crosby

1130
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: or Miles Garrett one d per? Could I see them

1131
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: doing that? I don't know, man, I'd be stunned. If

1132
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: the Packers I think they're gonna sniff around. But do

1133
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: I envision those players if they do get traded on

1134
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: that team? It doesn't seem likely. So you guys do

1135
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: a lot of things at the margins. You know, it's

1136
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: rare beside like Reggie White. You know, even when you

1137
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: got Charles Woodson, I'm pretty sure he got him for

1138
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: really cheap. You know, he was coming off a weird

1139
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 1: year with the Raiders. And like, how many big free

1140
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 1: agents have you guys signed over the last I don't know,

1141
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: twenty years, doesn't seem like that many. Maybe it changes

1142
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: with Gutikins and the floor younger, a little bit more aggressive,

1143
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: but that's not really the way the franchisees operated historically.

1144
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: Could the tush push become a special teams package for

1145
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: some teams? It's not like the Eagles surprise people with it.

1146
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: Why not dedicate a big wildcat group for the guaranteed

1147
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: short yardage play? Well, the Bills tried it, and they

1148
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: have one of the strongest, biggest quarterbacks in the NFL,

1149
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: and it didn't work. What makes the Eagles unique is

1150
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: their quarterback can squat like eight million pounds and he

1151
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: can get really low. No one else can do that

1152
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: like they can. I don't love the play. I saw

1153
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: Jim Nance say he would before them getting rid of

1154
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: the play. I agree, I would get rid of the

1155
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: play or I wouldn't have a problem if they outlawed

1156
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: the play. But I also don't have a problem, Like

1157
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: they play within a letter of the law, and they

1158
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: have a unique player to run the play. No one

1159
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: else has that. No one does like you think you're

1160
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: gonna run that with like Bryce Young even when the

1161
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: Ravens running it with Mark Andrews, he gets high. It's

1162
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: just a unique thing they can do. Because of Jalen.

1163
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: When evaluating college players post nil, how important is to

1164
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: take into account how they spend their money. Would you

1165
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: be more inclined to draft a guy who's less flashy

1166
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: with the spending. I don't. I had a buddy tell

1167
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: me this year that when you go into college parking lots,

1168
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: they look like his NFL teams with just I mean

1169
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: six figure cars everywhere, brand new. Even the average cars

1170
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: are like a new Escalade or Tahoe or truck. These

1171
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: guys just be because they spend Who spends their money?

1172
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: Well at twenty twenty one years old, Like, how many

1173
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: guys are you meeting? Like, yeah, just invested everything in

1174
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: a step Ira bought three multi units. I was like

1175
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: a ton of NFL guys are buying multiple Lamborghinis, it's

1176
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: like and like seventeen watches. It's like, yeah, I don't

1177
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: know if those are the greatest purchases. I think it

1178
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: matters more his football character, how much he loves the sport,

1179
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: how hard he works. You give any human being a

1180
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: lot of money at nineteen twenty twenty one, twenty two

1181
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: years old, college or pro, they're gonna buy some things

1182
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: they regret ten years later. Ninety nine percent of men

1183
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't be like, you know, I nailed everything, just great investor.

1184
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I regret some of those. So I

1185
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: don't think it matters. I really don't unless you're like

1186
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: buying nefarious things, things that gets you in trouble. But

1187
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: if you're just making purchases that and who who deems

1188
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: that like who gets to pick and choose what's a

1189
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: smart buy and what's not a smart buy, I think

1190
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: you kind of get into a slippery slope that way.

1191
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: As a diehards Titans fan, I'm stuck on deciding who

1192
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: I want to get. If you were the Titans brand

1193
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 1: new front office, what the hell are you gonna do

1194
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 1: with the first pick trade down? I'd take abdual Carter, period,

1195
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: point blank, end of story. Abdul Carter, here's the here's

1196
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: the uh. Here you go, Roger, here's the card. Say

1197
01:08:54,800 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: it out loud, abdul Carter. I believe that the gap

1198
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 1: between Trevor Lawrence's talent and how good he actually is

1199
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: is wider than any quarterback in the league. He clearly

1200
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: has the potential to be better than he is. And

1201
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: I know you've mentioned this before, but do you really

1202
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: think it comes down to work ethic and lack of

1203
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: love of the game. For me, as a football fan,

1204
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: or even if I was his coach, that would drive

1205
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: me nuts. I would rather root for someone or coach

1206
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: someone who sucks but loves the game. That is not true. Well, one,

1207
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: you can't suck and get to the NFL. But on

1208
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: the talent, you know, I would say scale. If a

1209
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: guy has no talent but he's like Rudy Rudiger, you

1210
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: have no chance to win in college during the NFL,

1211
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: So there has to be some balance. I don't know

1212
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: enough about him if he truly doesn't love football. You

1213
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: know Doug Peterson, who's a life time backup position coach,

1214
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: head coach. I remember talking to him with the combine

1215
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: last year. Loves him. I just don't think he's that good.

1216
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: So that's where I kind of disagree, Like, I don't

1217
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: think he's that accurate. I don't think he's that instinctive.

1218
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: I think he turns the ball over at a rapid rate.

1219
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think that I disagree on

1220
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: the talent gap. I don't see this guy that's just

1221
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: oozing with talent. It's like, God, this guy's you know,

1222
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: could be Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen, Like, I don't

1223
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: see that when I watched the guy. Now, could it

1224
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: be better than he's playing, of course, but when you

1225
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: watch him play over the last couple of years, do

1226
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, this is a guy that could be

1227
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: a top five quarterback. I don't see that. No, I

1228
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: can't speak to I don't think he's like showing up late.

1229
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: But does he eat? Like does it mean everything to

1230
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: him deep down to a soul? Because that's what it

1231
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 1: means to Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson to Patrick Mahomes to

1232
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning to Tom Brady to Drew Brees. I got

1233
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: a lot of questions here. I'm bumming the Eagles lost

1234
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. But as you've said, this is the problem

1235
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: with Nick Sirianni. I've seen chatter that the Eagles should

1236
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,759
Speaker 1: hire Frank Rich. He's not being pursued by their teams

1237
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: as a head coach, but could bring stability to the

1238
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:27,839
Speaker 1: OC position for Philly. Yeah, I don't see that happening.

1239
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna end up elevating that dude Kevin

1240
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: on the staff seems like what the buzz is. And

1241
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: maybe they bring in Frank because that's Sirianni's guy. But

1242
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,879
Speaker 1: I don't think siriann is gonna be the offensive coordinator,

1243
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: or excuse me, Frank's gonna be the offensive coordinator. I

1244
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: haven't seen that anywhere, but I might not be as

1245
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 1: deep on the Eagles message boards as you are. I

1246
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: would not do that. I would not hire Frank to

1247
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: be my offensive coordinator, no chance. What would the Falcons

1248
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: need to give up for Miles Garrett. Cousins would be

1249
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: an obvious piece to me, but what else would need

1250
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: to go with him? Well, to me, Cousins, he's not

1251
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: tradable player because of his contract. So the Browns are

1252
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: not going to trade you Miles Garrett and take back

1253
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 1: his contract. They would just let you cut Kirk Cousins

1254
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,759
Speaker 1: and then sign him for a couple of million bucks,

1255
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 1: five million bucks, ten million bucks. I do not see

1256
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 1: the Browns trading for Cousins. I think that would be insane.

1257
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: I think to get Miles Garrett. If you're the Browns,

1258
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 1: you cannot accept anything less that. The starting point is

1259
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: two ones and a two. It's a starting point. I

1260
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 1: would like more as well, but I do not think

1261
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: you can trade him for anything less than multiple ones.

1262
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: He's one of the best players in decades, Like just

1263
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: talent wise, production wise, he's just an elite player at

1264
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: an elite position. So I just I just think it

1265
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: costs a shitload, and he's so good that even when

1266
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: you're getting offered a lot, you keep saying no one

1267
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: hanging up. Okay, last question. I know you're not a

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Speaker 1: big fan of the Falcons front office, but I have

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Speaker 1: a Falcons question for you. What do you think of

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Speaker 1: Obric as the defensive coordinator? The Falcons d has been

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Speaker 1: a bottom feeder since we fired Quinn. Even when we

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Speaker 1: take swings on players that are successful with other teams

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Speaker 1: judaon Simmons, etc. Their play drops off when they get

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta. The only explanation for that is coaching. Pennick

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Speaker 1: seems like he's going to be a top player and

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Speaker 1: already have a We already have a good offensive line.

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Speaker 1: They need to take a page out of the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: playbook and build a strong defense. Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: remember last year when Kyle Shanahan was looking for a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, he tried to hire him and solid kept him.

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Speaker 1: I think he's always been highly thought of. Obviously, the

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Speaker 1: Jets defense was really good when he was the defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator before Slid got fired and he was elevated to

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Speaker 1: the interim coach. I followed his career since he was

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Speaker 1: a player with the Niners and then he became an

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Speaker 1: assistant coach for Jim Mora on the UCLA staff. I've

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Speaker 1: always been impressed with the guy. But I hear you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the one downfall the Falcons is like, have

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Speaker 1: you guys drafted that? Well, you guys just did some

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Speaker 1: weird things recently. Right, the Kyle Pitts thing blew up

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Speaker 1: in your face. He's never come close to living up

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Speaker 1: to a top five pick. The Cousin's contract last year

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Speaker 1: was a disaster. Obviously, if they could do it over again.

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Speaker 1: They just would have given all that money to defensive

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Speaker 1: players like Christian Wilkins and just drafted Pennix in the

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Speaker 1: first round and signed like a Gardner Minshew. I think

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Speaker 1: they just they've just been in an erratic organization, no way

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Speaker 1: around it. Just a very very erratic organization when it

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Speaker 1: comes to player personnel, and they've been desperate for the

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Speaker 1: quarterback situation post the end of Matt Ryan. They just

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Speaker 1: feel like an organization that's kind of lost, from my perspective,

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Speaker 1: just an organization that doesn't really know what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: a lot of different opinions, not necessarily a shared vision,

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Speaker 1: just kind of living in the moment and get a

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Speaker 1: lot of average to below average results because of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, this year is pretty embarrassing,

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Speaker 1: the way everyone anointed them, the way they anointed themselves,

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Speaker 1: and then the Buccaneers won the division, they didn't even

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, so got a lot of soul searching

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Speaker 1: to do. But I hear you, they need they need

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Speaker 1: to be good on defense. You have no chance to

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Speaker 1: be a good team in the NFL if your defense

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Speaker 1: isn't solid and you can't rush the passer was the

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Speaker 1: last time. Make it rush the passer. John Abraham, it's

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Speaker 1: been a long, long time. Appreciate everyone listening. Audios, the

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Speaker 1: volume