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Speaker 1: Anthony Rizzo, David Ross, John Maylee, Rik Kinsky Take one.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of the Lovable Reunion podcast.

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Speaker 1: Me and My Patna David Ross joined by the best

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Speaker 1: duo I've ever had, He's ever had, John Maylee and

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Speaker 1: Eric Kinski are hitting coaches in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show's boys. Thank you, so pumped to

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Speaker 2: have you.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 4: This is this is the crew. This is the guys

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Speaker 4: that are in the batting cage.

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Speaker 3: The hitting coach life is on another level.

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Speaker 2: They're basically like, you're psychologist every single.

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Speaker 3: Day, every single day. And two good ones. Yeah, two

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Speaker 3: good ones.

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Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen, we had a two hundred and fifty two

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Speaker 1: run differential, which means we outscored our opponents by two

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two runs.

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Speaker 5: Good.

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Speaker 3: That was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Guys were the masterminds behind it. This was before really

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Speaker 1: all the analytics really dove into the game. You guys

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Speaker 1: kept an old school, but news school. You were the

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Speaker 1: best duo at a time where really it was like

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Speaker 1: the first time there was actually two hitting coaches on

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Speaker 1: the teams.

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Why how did you guys work so long? Well?

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Speaker 5: His eyes are really close together.

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Speaker 6: And really hard, so that matches up good.

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Speaker 7: I looked like a skinny thing and he looks like

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Speaker 7: a whale in the head of.

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Speaker 6: Hammerhead Hamhead.

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Speaker 7: We went, I'll tell you you were go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Well we met and right away we knew. We love baseball,

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Speaker 5: We loved being in the cage, and we like to

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Speaker 5: drink a little bit. So that's a match, you know,

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Speaker 5: made He mainly now five years sober. Congratulations, very well done.

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Speaker 4: Well and now I've got it. Like the stories already

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Speaker 4: popping in. We're in Milwaukee and he's like, meet me

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Speaker 4: at what the bar. Mail is going to go up

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Speaker 4: real quick, come down, we go, we buy, you know,

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Speaker 4: everybody gets two beers and we're at the table. Males

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Speaker 4: comes down. I'm like halfway through with my other one

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Speaker 4: with my first one. Males comes down and he's down too,

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Speaker 4: and back to the bar before he got to him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we used to.

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Speaker 3: We used to be able to put him back. The boys. Uh,

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Speaker 3: we had a good time.

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Speaker 2: We had a good time.

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Speaker 7: We want to talk shout, we want we won the

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Speaker 7: day in the Night twenty sixteen Cobies with Joe Madden.

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Speaker 7: Letting you do your thing and being your own person,

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Speaker 7: and we went hard during the day.

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Speaker 6: We played hard. We worked hard than anybody, and you

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Speaker 6: were the.

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Speaker 4: First one there cleaned up in the cage like something

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Speaker 4: about well, it's a thing we talked. We just talked

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Speaker 4: to Addie about like some of the things you've learned.

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Speaker 4: It's about posting every single day and bringing your a

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Speaker 4: game every single day throughout the season, like you were

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Speaker 4: the probably the best I've ever been around. And from

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Speaker 4: ready to work every single single day, you guys, I

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Speaker 4: guys did a lot.

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Speaker 1: For I don't think people understand how much Hitt and

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Speaker 1: coaches mean to you as a player every day, day

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Speaker 1: in and day out, because it was actually with YouTube.

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Speaker 1: This was before the day of every day Hitters meeting,

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Speaker 1: So we would just do a meeting a series if that.

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Speaker 1: But I would walk into the cage every single day

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Speaker 1: and I'd say, what do we got, whether it was

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Speaker 2: What I want.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is where you're going to do off the sky,

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Speaker 1: this is what he's going to try to do, and

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Speaker 1: I DIBt, let's do it. And that was my skind

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Speaker 1: of report and then I would I would do my

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Speaker 1: own homework. But the routines that you guys helped me

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Speaker 4: But do you know anybody's routine? Can you can you

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Speaker 4: give me Ris routine?

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Speaker 5: Right? If?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Hard?

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Speaker 6: Well, it was real quick.

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Speaker 7: It's just on the dynamics of Eric and I. You know,

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Speaker 7: Eric stood in the box and I'm a big believer

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Speaker 7: and you had to stand in the box a little

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Speaker 7: bit too. I respect guys that that came before me.

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Speaker 7: I played professional baseball, but I really didn't stand in

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Speaker 7: all those things that I never could experience as a player,

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Speaker 7: even though I played professional baseball, never at the level

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Speaker 7: you guys play that the things that he brought to

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Speaker 7: there were so it's just offset. What his strengths were

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Speaker 7: were my deficiencies. And one of them would be experienced.

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Speaker 7: I've experienced coaching, but I didn't have experience standing in

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Speaker 6: And I would always get with Eric.

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Speaker 7: If someone was out of line or something because he

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Speaker 7: positive guy, very respectful, but he'll come at you and

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Speaker 7: tell you the truth, and guys respect that. I mean,

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Speaker 7: there was one time David and I got into it.

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Speaker 6: One time.

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Speaker 7: You know, you tell David, I said, there was one time.

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Speaker 6: I remember this.

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Speaker 7: I come in and when David is the nicest human

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Speaker 6: He's so into the game funniest ship.

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Speaker 7: But when he played the days he played, you better

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Speaker 7: no playing games. He was going out to win and

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Speaker 7: he's going to find a way to beat you no

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Speaker 7: matter what it took. And everybody knew it, and you

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Speaker 7: had to really be careful on how you address him.

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Speaker 7: So I would go over to David and tell him, Okay,

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Speaker 7: So and so's coming in, and I would tell him

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Speaker 6: Goes, well, what the fuck is he gonna get me out?

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Speaker 7: I said, oh ho, look on, David, all right, So

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Speaker 7: the next time I go, he's gonna throw you a

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Speaker 7: bunch of slider? Well, how heart does he throw? Tell

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Speaker 7: me what he's got And I said, Okay, David, he's

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Speaker 7: He's got John Lester in his ear about something right,

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Speaker 6: Johnny, do this, do that?

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Speaker 7: Because he really took control of that situation. He had

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Speaker 6: Something like that.

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Speaker 7: Right, And then he's got it and I'm going to

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Speaker 7: try to talk to him before he goes up there

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Speaker 7: where that goes where. And then Eric, that was such

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Speaker 7: a balance of the approach stuff, and he knew the

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Speaker 7: Kinemannic sequencing because I had to come up through that,

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Speaker 6: He had to be able to talk that language. Of course,

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Speaker 6: what Eric was one of his strengths, I.

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Speaker 4: Thought was here and I couldn't hear that language, like

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Speaker 6: Daven couldn't hear that.

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Speaker 7: And Tony said, just tell me, do I land square

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Speaker 6: You know, that's what they wanted to hear. So I

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Speaker 7: But Eric's one of his biggest strengths of the experience

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Speaker 7: was the ability to break it down in its simplest form,

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Speaker 7: to give it to a player, Hey, get your foot

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Speaker 6: You're late. You're not getting in a hitting position on time.

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Speaker 7: And that's really at this level most of these guys,

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Speaker 7: We got to bring him back physically and mentally. There

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Speaker 7: was a time one more scenario because I thought about this.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it's a mere Garrett or let's

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Speaker 7: just tell you a little bit about who Tony was.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it's a mere Garrett. Were playing

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Speaker 6: And he had a home run. He threw a left

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Speaker 7: He threw Tony at fastball up and in right at

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Speaker 6: Stop so I can hit that pitch. I can hit

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Speaker 7: He said, hey, man, you you're one for forty off

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Speaker 7: at this pitch. You can't hit that pitch. Stop swinging

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Speaker 7: and Hinsy goes, what are you dumb ass?

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Speaker 7: And that was the balance And and I think just

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Speaker 7: David just concussions all over the place and just went

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Speaker 7: to his ability to lock in the game and take

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Speaker 2: So we really appreciate yeah, yeah, yeah, well I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: I I go back because you talk about your dynamic,

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Speaker 4: like just you're talking about your career. Eric Hensky is

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Speaker 4: the only one that has three rings. I think you

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Speaker 4: got Yankees as a player, one red Sox to the player,

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Speaker 2: Coad so and he's Philly and he's loved in Philly too.

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Speaker 5: Why because I struck out the last start of the

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Speaker 5: World Series in two.

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Speaker 2: Thousands another ring for that.

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Speaker 4: But talking about a guy that knows approach, like exactly

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Speaker 4: what you said, he would tell me, roster you just

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Speaker 4: you're starting late, b you got to get started early.

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Speaker 3: Like little things like that helped me.

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Speaker 4: And there's never been a more awkward situation than playing

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Speaker 4: with a guy in Atlanta and being teammates and then

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Speaker 4: you get over to Chicago and he's flipping to the training.

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Speaker 1: Dynamics, play law or maybe you just didn't play at

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Speaker 1: the right time. Because I've had like fifteen yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I played with my coaches, so now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe in one of them Ski Eric was here,

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Speaker 2: what was your first year thirteen or fourteen?

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Speaker 1: Coach and I was still young and still trying to

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Speaker 1: find my way. And if there's honestly one person in

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Speaker 1: erkin Ski because in twenty fourteen, Yeah, and I would

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Speaker 1: This isn't about me, but number one, number one left

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Speaker 6: So Anthony got hit with thirty.

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Speaker 6: And we're in the playoffs and I said, Anthony, please

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Speaker 7: The plate, because you always wanted me off the Get

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Speaker 6: We're going to have trouble winning the World Series, buddy.

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Speaker 7: And they'll gladly being you right before, They'll let you

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Speaker 7: And he looked at me and he said, Mals, I'm

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Speaker 7: And ever since then, I said, my man, wow, And

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Speaker 6: That was really cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean with Ski there in twenty fourteen. So

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Speaker 2: I stunk there, and.

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Speaker 8: You're like, fuck no, you play every fucking day and

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Speaker 8: how you're in respect this you post, you post, you

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Speaker 8: puft and I go to Hyder, I go, no, I'm playing.

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Speaker 2: Go tell Rick, I'm playing. I'm not no days off.

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Speaker 5: That's because nobody wants to see the backup first basement

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Speaker 2: And you instilled that in it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, you got to play every day to be good

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Speaker 2: I go out that game and hit two hormones.

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Speaker 5: Hell yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I was like that just instilled that confidence in

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Speaker 5: I was at respect for guys. I played every day

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Speaker 1: You build these relationships with your coaches, and as a

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Speaker 5: Every day.

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Speaker 2: They're getting worn out by the front.

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Speaker 2: Why not hitting? Why is ross he worn out? And

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Speaker 1: The guys up top that are I think the game's

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Speaker 2: And you guys need to filter that.

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Speaker 1: With all due respect, right, And the best hitting coaches

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Speaker 1: I are is YouTube and James Rowson, and James Rowse

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Speaker 5: What do we say? No matter what, there's always got three,

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Speaker 7: And at the end of the night, we don't sleep

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Speaker 6: You're out of whack. We got to get your back.

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Speaker 6: I left Houston to come here to coach.

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Speaker 7: And THEO called me and I was going to bring

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Speaker 7: And I said yeah, And he says, well, I got

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Speaker 6: And I said, oh. He said Eric Hinsky.

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Speaker 6: Are you good people? I need a good person with me.

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Speaker 6: He played.

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Speaker 7: If it's still in the box he hit, he knows sure,

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Speaker 5: I was like, where's mails.

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Speaker 5: I need this dude, because I'm way better as the assistant.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I was out of whack, I'm helping with what

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Speaker 4: And you guys were locked in on every at bat

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Speaker 1: And Rossie looks at me. He goes, bro, he goes,

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Speaker 4: you're locked in. Well, you talked earlier about the one

446
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Speaker 4: O take, and I want to go back to that.

447
00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,880
Speaker 4: But like you knew it was like, Okay, here comes

448
00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,840
Speaker 4: a slider. They went ball under riz, here comes that

449
00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,200
Speaker 4: backput slider. He's going to take it now he's too

450
00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,840
Speaker 4: oh and locked in and like the league I think

451
00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,439
Speaker 4: caught on later on, but like that was one of

452
00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,119
Speaker 4: his routine that that started, like like have the a

453
00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,680
Speaker 4: bat you guys talking about like just that pitch, which

454
00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,280
Speaker 4: is kind of contradicting now because a lot of the

455
00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,880
Speaker 4: new school data is like swing early OPS is higher

456
00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:09,520
Speaker 4: on the first pitch.

457
00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,200
Speaker 1: But Ski you taught me passed down by Carlos Delgado.

458
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,840
Speaker 1: I believe the one old auto take, and I'm not kidding.

459
00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,240
Speaker 1: For about ten years of my career, I would want

460
00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,679
Speaker 1: o auto take. And the thought behind it was, you

461
00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,399
Speaker 1: see another pitch. I'm hitting third or fourth usually in

462
00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,160
Speaker 1: the lineup, so if they throw me, say they throw

463
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,879
Speaker 1: me a fastball first, they're probably not going to go

464
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,399
Speaker 1: back to a fastball, so then you could see a

465
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,720
Speaker 1: fastball in their spin. If they go spin early, was

466
00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,160
Speaker 1: going to see two pitches. Worst case, you're one to one.

467
00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,639
Speaker 1: Most of the time, I was too old because they

468
00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,000
Speaker 1: didn't want me to do damage, and I would look

469
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,960
Speaker 1: like a genius, like they've they throw me a bastard

470
00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,840
Speaker 1: changeup or a bastard pitch and I'm taking it like

471
00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,520
Speaker 1: spitting on them, like yeah, like almost doing like a

472
00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 1: little sodo on them.

473
00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,720
Speaker 5: Like well, it came from me because in my career,

474
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,000
Speaker 5: I played for twelve years.

475
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,120
Speaker 3: I can the year for Toronto, by the way, shout out.

476
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,000
Speaker 5: I can't tell you how many times I do a

477
00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,879
Speaker 5: one o pitch. It was a chaine up down and

478
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,000
Speaker 5: away from a rity and I thought it was a

479
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 5: regular sinker or something. I was going to go deep

480
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,399
Speaker 5: on it, and I rolled it over and I was

481
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,280
Speaker 5: motherfucking myself the first base, jogging down the first baseline

482
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,040
Speaker 5: or sprinting because I was so mad and there was

483
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 5: steam coming on my ears and I'm not gonna do

484
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 5: this ever again. And the next that bad I did

485
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 5: it again. So I gave it to you. I'm like

486
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 5: one a wattle take bro I swear eighty five percent

487
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,480
Speaker 5: of the time, you're going to be two oh. And

488
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 5: if you're not, you're one one who cares.

489
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,080
Speaker 1: And I made it my identity. Like literally, anyone who

490
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 1: played against me or her knew me, knew I was

491
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,480
Speaker 1: one on it new everyone knew. When I got traded

492
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Speaker 1: in New York and Hyder was the manager of the Orioles,

493
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 1: our first game were in Yankee Stadium. No oh, no, no,

494
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,000
Speaker 1: I take one oh. And he's from the dugout nice

495
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:40,680
Speaker 1: auto take.

496
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 2: That's what I did.

497
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Speaker 1: He's the manager and he he knows me better than anyone,

498
00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,120
Speaker 1: and I just give him a little smirk. And then

499
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 1: eventually it's like you start playing games. Because I knew

500
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 1: the Orioles had to know that I took all the time,

501
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,639
Speaker 1: and I took probably ninety five percent.

502
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Speaker 5: More like when I was at the Diamondbacks. You you'd

503
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,360
Speaker 5: be in a one ozer count. I'd be coaching the diamondbackside.

504
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,439
Speaker 5: You'd stare at snare right out and down am I taking?

505
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 1: And those are the games within the game that no

506
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 1: one knows. But that's from the relationships we built. And honestly,

507
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,880
Speaker 1: if I didn't do that, if I didn't make that

508
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,919
Speaker 1: part of my identity. I don't think him as good

509
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 1: as a player because I bought in fully to the

510
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 1: one to zero auto take, and I swear most of

511
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: the time it worked out. I mean, I don't know

512
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 1: what the numbers say, but the confidence in the psyche

513
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 1: part used.

514
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 5: To tell me all the time.

515
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 6: Stop telling that heat.

516
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 7: Three years, bases loaded and he's taken.

517
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 5: I don't know if this coincidence, but three years I

518
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 5: was his assistant hitting coach. I believe it was a

519
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 5: three time all start.

520
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 2: I believe you're right, sorry about it, about it, bro,

521
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,239
Speaker 2: This is what on?

522
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Speaker 6: Well, the thing is, you could hit with two strikes.

523
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,640
Speaker 6: Now you were one of the top players in baseball.

524
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 7: That's a whole game because the ops falls off the

525
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 7: map with two strikes, right, and the ops grows as

526
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 7: a count crow, So O two is whatever? Five eighty

527
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 7: one two two two, three two. If you can fight

528
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 7: get to another pitch in that at bat and did

529
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 7: to a three to two count, you're on offense again.

530
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 7: So we didn't consider three two.

531
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Speaker 5: Did you just have an.

532
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Speaker 2: It's like, this is why I went to ski. What

533
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 2: do you what do you guys? How do you guys?

534
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: Know before a game that guys were locking, especially in sixteen,

535
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: Like what made that group to you guys so special

536
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 1: because you guys are watching a different lens than the players.

537
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 5: The fact that we started twenty one and six you

538
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 5: guys were ready to go. In April it was freezing.

539
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 5: I was like, these these are killing baseballs. We had

540
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 5: no problem scoring runs. I mean from jump it was

541
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 5: we knew we were special.

542
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 7: The lineup was so deep that you knew you didn't

543
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 7: have to be the guy he.

544
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 2: Was hitting seven.

545
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, so when you when you you know, when you're

546
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 7: on a team and you've got three or four horses,

547
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 7: and then you're sprinkling the young guys that are learning

548
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 7: and all of that. That group got to carry it

549
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 7: where We were good one through nine, you know what

550
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 7: I mean. And our catchers could hit He hit Meggie

551
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 7: hit Wilson. Right, you were an animal lefties.

552
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 2: KB because Jack's got it all started.

553
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 7: George, George Solaire, I mean, just think about it. So

554
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 7: you knew we were going to hurt you somewhere, and

555
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 7: we did two things. We pulled the ball in the

556
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 7: air so we had homers, and we walked. So that

557
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 7: was I was hired for coach and they then they

558
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 7: I don't want to get into the rest of that,

559
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 7: but yes, that's how. That was the recipe, and we

560
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 7: had the people to do that and swarps. So you

561
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 7: had guys that you didn't want. You walked, you didn't chase,

562
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 7: and then you couldn't strike out. You had to seventy

563
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 7: with two strikes.

564
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

565
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,239
Speaker 7: The league average was one eighty two at that time

566
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 7: or one seventy six.

567
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 5: Crazy.

568
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,719
Speaker 6: You had to seventy with some juice.

569
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: It's not about me though. It's okay dropping, but I'm sad.

570
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 7: It's okay to to work and get behind in the

571
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 7: count because you know you're good, where other guys aren't

572
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 7: in that position, they get the two strikes with for

573
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 7: they got to go early. It is what it is,

574
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 7: especially the young guys until they learned themselves and learn

575
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 7: to tax their strengths in the zone.

576
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

577
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 4: And I want to get off, like I hate talking

578
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 4: about riz, so let's get off his topic.

579
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: It's not about you.

580
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 4: We do this every segment and every shows. Get on

581
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 4: Frizz who cares already you're retired, Nobody cares. It's not

582
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 4: about me. Joe talked about before sixteen about of the

583
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: b hack and all that. I want to know from

584
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 4: a coaching standpoint, what were Joe's strengths.

585
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 3: Like, how was he how did he manage?

586
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 5: No, No, Michael, let.

587
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: Us do everyone, everybody what's made it work?

588
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 7: You think about it and we can get into the

589
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 7: whole dynamics of the environment. But the environment, including Tim

590
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 7: Bus who's here today, absolutely and.

591
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 6: People don't realize what that what that takes. And we

592
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 6: really got into this.

593
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 7: This would be a twenty five hour show just to

594
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 7: go through forget what happened in the game, the prep

595
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 7: that went into the or the environment that was created

596
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 7: there they're to me.

597
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: There's the bus rides, the plays, so.

598
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 7: Much stress in between those lines. If we create stress

599
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 7: as a staff on this side of the lines, you

600
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 7: got a big problem Joe with Joe with the petting zoos.

601
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 7: And if you think you look hot, wear it all

602
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 7: of those things instead of we used to have to

603
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 7: wear suits and then.

604
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 6: Are you gonna get your suit Tailey cleaned?

605
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 7: And because we want to be better everybody because we

606
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 7: wear suits. No, you wear what makes you feel hot

607
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 7: and what you're comfortable with. Remember, on that note, you

608
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 7: had to get on the plane and.

609
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: Painting.

610
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 7: If you wear flip flops, you have to have your

611
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 7: toenails painted.

612
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 6: And I remember this story.

613
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 7: And then David said, so his daughter was painting his

614
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 7: toenails and your son said, Daddy, can I paint your tone?

615
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 2: Don't you ever ask me? I'm sorry to bring that

616
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 2: up too soon, but.

617
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 7: The environment on the other side had to be relaxed

618
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 7: and had everybody was their own dudes. But we were

619
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 7: a close screwed right and then but when we got

620
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 7: in between those lines, it was on it.

621
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Speaker 5: There were some dudes as a coach, never knew how

622
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 5: to shut up. I was always talking, right, and he's like,

623
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 5: step back, listen to that guy for a while. And

624
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 5: then the last thing he says, asking back that same

625
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 5: sentence in a question and let him keep talking. And

626
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 5: that talks so much. Dude taught me so much. The

627
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 5: guy's like, man, forever, you taught me how to listen.

628
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 5: Helped me all aspects of life for sure.

629
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 4: Well, you've guys had I mean, you've guys moved on

630
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 4: obviously had great hit. I mean, if you guys both

631
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 4: coached Otani.

632
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, can I get into that when him and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

633
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 7: so he went with the Angels.

634
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 10: Well KB was k kbut Trout Stanton two, Carlo Stanton

635
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 10: and Mike was Mike Andi and Carlo.

636
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you go down the tree, it's pretty cool. Well,

637
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 7: I'm almost proud of I think seven guys that were

638
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 7: hitting coaches for me became had coaches in the Big League.

639
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool.

640
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 6: That came through my sister.

641
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 7: So I'm very no thank you, but I'm very proud

642
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 7: of that because they helped me get so much better

643
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 7: and I learned so much from them. And I always

644
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 7: tried to pick a guy that has a different experience

645
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 7: or things so I can.

646
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 6: Continue to grow.

647
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 7: And but by far O Tani so Otani, when he

648
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 7: first came over, he couldn't eit a heater right, the

649
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 7: left handed hitter had a huge lay kick, and Ski was,

650
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 7: you know, we're talking about centripetal force and ship and

651
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 7: I didn't have them yet.

652
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 6: And then Ski's like.

653
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 7: Just get your foot down, dude. If you get your

654
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 7: foot down, you hit the ball hard. Get your foot down,

655
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 7: and that's when he got rid of the lake kick

656
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 7: and he went to the early stride that came from Eric.

657
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 5: I remember that.

658
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 6: But then he.

659
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 5: Was terribly hit like one hundred, had a huge leg kick.

660
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 5: He couldn't get to anything. And I just told him, like, hey,

661
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 5: I referenced like Chris Bryant and Freddie Freddy Freeman six

662
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 5: five hitters that have leveraged and they don't need to

663
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 5: generate with a huge leg kick, right. So I'm like,

664
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 5: you have to be in the ground to be able to,

665
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 5: you know, make a decision on time to hit the baseball, right.

666
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 5: Is that what we're doing. We're trying to get on

667
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 5: time in the ground to make a good hitting chucks right,

668
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 5: to make a swing decision. So he's like, okay, let

669
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 5: me try it in batting practice. Was this between series

670
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 5: the Dodgers are playing the Angels and doesn't batting practice

671
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 5: he hits home wrapper homer and VP's like all right,

672
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 5: I'm in And that was it. And now he's do you.

673
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: Get any seven hundred mimbes getting that?

674
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 5: I should I should get just a show.

675
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 4: Come on, bro, come on, showy, showy, come on. That's like, well,

676
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 4: you guys resume like that is just so epic. And

677
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 4: I I bring that up because I'm just like, what

678
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: stands out You guys have had great hitters Like what

679
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 4: I wasn't a great hitter and I grinded, you know,

680
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: the way we talked about. But you guys have seen

681
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 4: a lot of good hitters. What stands out and the

682
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 4: good hitters that you've seen, like championship caliber at bats

683
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: and some of the best that you've been arounds or

684
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 4: any any anything that you would you're teaching your son.

685
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 5: Right right, minus timing, they're never off time, and if

686
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 5: they are off time, they have the ability to like

687
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 5: ride their front knee and keep their bear on the

688
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 5: zone forever because they're so mechanically sound, like they never

689
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 5: get off sequence and it's crazy, you'll be able to

690
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 5: stay behind a baseball when it's coming at you one

691
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: hundred and then it's you know, eighty two off of

692
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 5: that and the same arm speed. That they never get

693
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 5: off time very much, and if they do, it's rare,

694
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 5: and like my trout Anthony Rizzo, Chris Bryant, like not

695
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 5: David Ross.

696
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: That's not about me.

697
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just mechanically they're sound, and they're just on time,

698
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 5: and they're like I said before, in the ground and

699
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 5: they can make a decisions.

700
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 7: The guys they've been around them in the best, or

701
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 7: they don't have any fear to try to make adjustments.

702
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 7: But they're very they're very You got to tell them.

703
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 7: As a hitting coach, in my opinion, you have to tell.

704
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 7: If you can't tell the player what's happening, why it's happening,

705
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 7: and how to fix and feel it, you shouldn't say

706
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 7: shit anyway. And every time the guys are hitting, they

707
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 7: pop the ball up in the cage and you're underneath it.

708
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 7: No shit, what gave that away?

709
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: It's right there?

710
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

711
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: Now.

712
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 7: If I look back at you, males, and I say,

713
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 7: why am I underneath it?

714
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 6: Then tell me if you know you know what I mean?

715
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 7: And I think it all comes back to timing and

716
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 7: what the best guys they've been around, the confidence they

717
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 7: believe in their swings. They know they can fucking hit,

718
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 7: and it just comes down to approach and being on time,

719
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 7: and then they get that one hit and all of

720
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 7: a sudden they say I'm back and nothing's changed mechanically. Now,

721
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 7: we will as coaches occasionally say hey, when you were

722
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 7: going really good, your stance was two inches further I know,

723
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 7: or it would be this because sometimes and it was

724
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 7: maybe maybe true, but I don't think that was the answer.

725
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 7: If you tell me your hands are here or here,

726
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 7: come on, you know what I mean?

727
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 6: Are they dropping.

728
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 5: Lower right here? You know?

729
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 6: Invertency? So something small.

730
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 7: But if you tell them that sometimes like you're fine,

731
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 7: you're doing good?

732
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 6: Well, two ways to do that? Fuck that.

733
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 7: I need something to hold on to. Bro even tell

734
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 7: me I'm good at one for twenty eight I ain't.

735
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 6: I ain't good.

736
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 7: You can't lie to player. You gotta tell them too

737
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 7: that I ain't good. Right, So hey, when we look back.

738
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 6: And then we'll go do all the thing.

739
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 7: Now, they got ways to measure you were standing four

740
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 7: more inches off the plate.

741
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: It's all.

742
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 7: It's so much easier to be a hitting coach today

743
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 7: in the sense of knowing if you're right or wrong

744
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 7: about what's happening. Like Anthony, you're laid on the fastball,

745
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 7: like I remember what Bryce back in uh in eighteen

746
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 7: or nineteen. It was nineteen when you got there the

747
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 7: first he was struggling and we looked back and he

748
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 7: wasn't able to pull the ball, and I thought he

749
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 7: was late all the time, and he said he didn't

750
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 7: feel like he was late.

751
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 6: And we did a bird's Eyedea, where you take the all?

752
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: Who's this talking about?

753
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 6: Bryce Harper?

754
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 5: Okay?

755
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 7: And then we did over the top view and it

756
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 7: showed here and his contact points, and I said, well,

757
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 7: were you best?

758
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 6: And whatever year he won the Mvper was almost on

759
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 6: the MVP. I think he won it.

760
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 7: And then I showed him where he was making contact

761
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 7: on fastballs in relation on home plate. They were all

762
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 7: out in front and now they're all that back here,

763
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 7: and he goes, I'm late, And I'm thinking to myself, yeah,

764
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 7: no kidding, but it's okay, how you portray it, But.

765
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 6: I ain't making it up.

766
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: Now.

767
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 7: Why you're late? I don't know you're in the box.

768
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 7: Why are you late? And he said that he had

769
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 7: worked really hard on going the opposite way in the

770
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 7: off season, so he's backing balls up. He was blocking

771
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 7: his front side and he wasn't being able to release

772
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 7: the head. So everything was played back here, which you

773
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 7: know is a lot of ground balls and bad things

774
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 7: the game out here.

775
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 6: You're lift it naturally and you get it in the here.

776
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: The hardest thing to do is repeat.

777
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: It's so easy for a little bad habit to creep

778
00:30:59,400 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: over the time.

779
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 7: Right, So and our job is to pay attention to this.

780
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 7: We have like a nowadays, we have a two week

781
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 7: checkup where we look back in and see all your

782
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 7: measurements and say, okay, did you realize you were standing

783
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 7: further off the plate?

784
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: Did you realize sixteen? Yeah, we didn't need it.

785
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 5: We didn't need it.

786
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: We want ye. Well yeah, so on that.

787
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 4: Like when did you guys know we were loaded? Like

788
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: we were good fifteen. We go back to fifteen. It's

789
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 4: like that that San Francisco series that we swept San

790
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 4: Francisco they were to find world champs, Like was the

791
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 4: light bulb?

792
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: Was like, oh, we're really good.

793
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: But there's there's some time we were like this, these

794
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 4: guys are a beast. I mean you said start in

795
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: the season, started season for sixteen, you're talking about sixty sixteen.

796
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 5: Yeah. I kind of knew instantly. Well I knew in

797
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 5: fifteen and at the end of fifteen, like like you said,

798
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 5: the Giant Series, but going into spring training, even the

799
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 5: guys that weren't in the big leagues, I was like,

800
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 5: these guys are really, really, really good fucking players. And

801
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 5: our team was so stacked and I really think I

802
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 5: remember we started off twenty one and six, and I

803
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 5: don't know if like one, we have one bad stretch

804
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 5: and we lose like seven games in a row Star

805
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 5: Break right before the yeah, and then nobody cares it

806
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 5: checked out. We came in after those games and I finished.

807
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: I finished that.

808
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: I finished sixteen All Star Break like like twelve or fifteen.

809
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: Okay, it wasn't my fault.

810
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 4: We told the story about lest story. He came in

811
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: and he said, we just got to get the pitching

812
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 4: going war. Oh but yeah, did you have fifteen fifteen?

813
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 6: You know what I do?

814
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 7: You remember in fifteen when we all said goodbye the

815
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 7: last game at home to Yeah, the old number of

816
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 7: the stealing fans, You remember, Like I should get into

817
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 7: that story about.

818
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 6: How we parted with the player of the game.

819
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 7: Jumped over the thing and I look up and there's

820
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 7: somebody's underwear going around.

821
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: After games, we would celebrate wins and we would turn

822
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: it into a club and music again, another Joe Matten thing,

823
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: bringing it in, embracing it, and we turned literally our

824
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: old locker room at Wrigley to a club, smoke machines, drinking,

825
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: and we carried that to the new one too. I

826
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's there anymore.

827
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 7: So in fifteen, when we did that goodbye and I

828
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 7: looked around the room, we all knew something was up.

829
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 6: That was a good group.

830
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 7: Were all a lot of us had tears in our eyes,

831
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 7: and and Dexter we knew was going to leave. So

832
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 7: I'm thinking, we got to get a center field and now.

833
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 7: But this group's got it. We got and you look

834
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 7: down them, you look at Lester Area and all those

835
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 7: it's a joke what they got. And we got the

836
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 7: pitching and the position players are all young and all

837
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 7: you mixing with the veterans would experience. So it was

838
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 7: ultra talented. And then when Dexter came back. Remember in

839
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 7: spring training, THEO walks them out in the middle of

840
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 7: the spring training. We're on the fielding bumpings or some shit,

841
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 7: and he walks out. Here comes Dexter. We all thought

842
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 7: he was just coming to say goodbye. And Dexter comes,

843
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 7: runs out and says, boys, I'm black, you.

844
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 6: Know what I mean.

845
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 7: But and then I couldn't believe it. And then after

846
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 7: that it was like, okay, it's time roll man.

847
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 5: I know when it's a trade deadline. We're twenty two

848
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 5: games over five hundred and in walked the role this

849
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 5: chap yes, and I was like, yes, we're winning the

850
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 5: world shot right now.

851
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: I said this that every year when you are the

852
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: best team and you go get the best player game over.

853
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 5: Field, did it? Dude? He walked in. I was like, Oh,

854
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 5: that motherfucker's in here. It's good night, everybody.

855
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: Bad man walking in and we knew it too, and

856
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: he knew it, and he came in and he shot.

857
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 5: He takes his wallet out of his pocket.

858
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 4: Over So, going back to Anthony stories, we need, we

859
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 4: need a good story.

860
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: I want to tell well, I want to first before

861
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: we get into that, I want to talk about the

862
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: two strike approach that you're talking about earlier, because you know,

863
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: striking out is such a big part of the game.

864
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: Now people don't care. And for me, I hated striking

865
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: out and I always try to strike out looking more

866
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: because that means I take pictures. But with two strikes

867
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: out expanded, I would drive My hitting coach is crazy,

868
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: but I knew get into two strikes.

869
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: That I could fight off and I could.

870
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: If I could fight off that bastard pitch and get

871
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: to the next pitch, I could do damage.

872
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: So I was never scared to hit with two strikes.

873
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: But when things got real dark and tough, I knew

874
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: I had something in my back pocket.

875
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: At all times. A couple times a year, Male's ski.

876
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: You guys probably have seen this a little too much

877
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: over our time, but I would like to go into

878
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: the cage and hit.

879
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: Naked, commanding, fully naked, fully naked fully.

880
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 5: But shorts on first.

881
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 6: They start on they saw on.

882
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 2: Basically the process start going.

883
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: I would take my shirt off and then I would

884
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: do I would because Males was big on my stride

885
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: in length. So the shorts we had at the time

886
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: they had really tight elastic bands. They were almost like, uh,

887
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of they had, good, good waist,

888
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: So I pulled my shorts all the way down. I

889
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: was always commando on erneath before I hit, and I

890
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: would just work on my stride length off the tee

891
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: and mails his feet of me.

892
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: And it was so anybody walked down. Remember I remember

893
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: walking in Pittsburgh.

894
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 4: I got a photo on my phone. I'm like, well,

895
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: there's Anthony's ass again.

896
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 6: Well there's another time when Fount was throwing VPD.

897
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 7: You were in the tanking and he was a BT

898
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 7: pizzro you made him throw naked and I don't.

899
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 6: Know where we were at now, we were grind anyway.

900
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: I didn't see that.

901
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 6: So I told Tony. I said, Tony, you're overstriding again.

902
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 6: He says, all right, we'll work on it tomorrow. Guys

903
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 6: gets in it.

904
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: Look.

905
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 6: Next day he comes in the cage.

906
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 7: He's got no shirt on, his usual regular shorts, no

907
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 7: drawers on.

908
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 6: Comes in the cage, put the ball on the tee.

909
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 6: Put the ball on the tee.

910
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 7: He goes, drops his pants and he's standing there and

911
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 7: you know how he always goes like this. Now I'm

912
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 7: only using my peripheral vision. Thank god, I can't see

913
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 7: well the side of my eyes.

914
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 6: Thank god they're so close together.

915
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 7: Thank you so and he would do his little wiggle

916
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 7: and he would hit, and then you just use your

917
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 7: imagination and what that looked like.

918
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 6: And then it was.

919
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 5: It worked, It worked.

920
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: It drop percent success rate every time I kid, one

921
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent success.

922
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: And you're this is full hacks. People at home have to.

923
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: Understand, this is a This is like I would I

924
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: would pretend I was like twenty fourteen hobby bias and

925
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 1: just try to swing as hard as I could, go.

926
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: Down to a knee.

927
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you drop a back name completely naked, like falling over,

928
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: getting back up barefoot like.

929
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it worked.

930
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 7: Then he pulled his shorts up and you two would

931
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 7: hug and roll around on the ground and says, I

932
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 7: love this ship.

933
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 6: I love this ship.

934
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: Remember that.

935
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 7: And then we sit there and we lay all of

936
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 7: our heads, Hinsky's mine and Tony's head. We just laying

937
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 7: our back and we talk and we've been a little.

938
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: Star in the gy. These are the relationships that we had.

939
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 5: We had to slay the dragon, dude, we.

940
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: Had to say the dragon.

941
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 4: Was there anybody more quirky than Riz or like anybody

942
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 4: that stood out from that sixteen team that that you

943
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: guys got like Hobby and OKB was.

944
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 5: Pretty sobers dude, sober nuts fucking nuts. Dude, Shake wait,

945
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 5: shake wait, put in the two, put in the portal

946
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 5: and finish. What the fuck are you talking about? Dude.

947
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 5: I'd be like, yeah, that looks good, sick, We're as

948
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 5: good about that.

949
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: We would be in the shake the whole dugout.

950
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: Shake with Chile, shake nuts.

951
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: Speaking of celebrations, that was that was one of my

952
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 4: favorite parts we had, Like our dugout from I've never

953
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 4: been on a team where coaches celebrated as much as

954
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 4: we did in sixteen. We guys went deep and She's

955
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 4: like like jumping, yeah.

956
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: And it was like we start clapping and doing the

957
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: dance and stuff like we were. It was fun to be.

958
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 11: An other teams, yeah, because we when we would when

959
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 11: we came to play, they knew, like we rolled in

960
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 11: there like the fucking Motley Crew, bro, and we came in,

961
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 11: We beat your ass, and you've left.

962
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: A mess behind him, a mess. But we never like respectfully, yeah,

963
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: very respectfully.

964
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 4: There was no animosity on the other team. We were

965
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 4: just doing our thing. That's where I think Joe created.

966
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 4: We were so there was no outside noise.

967
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 5: Like if you'd roll into Chicago and you got area

968
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 5: at a Lester Lack Lack Yeah, Hendricks like good luck.

969
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 5: They were nasty as hell. Yeah, and we put up five.

970
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's like.

971
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 6: We went out and it was us versus us. You know,

972
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 6: that's the old thing.

973
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 7: If we can not beat ourselves and just go out

974
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 7: play our game, well, any good team that's the way

975
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 7: it is, right. But we were able to do it

976
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 7: every day and I just remember losing in that that's

977
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 7: seven games or whatever, and Joe, you know, and I

978
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 7: just came from a place where, you know, everything was

979
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 7: like this. If you didn't win, everybody was all, Joe's

980
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 7: got the song on in his room. Don't worry, the

981
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 7: happy sitting there with his feet up, drinking wine. Yeah,

982
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 7: seven games in a row, he said, you win hard,

983
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 7: you lose hard. You got twenty minutes. After twenty minutes,

984
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 7: that's over, with time to go move on memory. Yeah,

985
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 7: So with twenty minutes, that music would go on with

986
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 7: Joe and he would drink that wine and play that song.

987
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: Everybody said, oh, okay, we're good exactly. That's leadership in

988
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: my opinion, one oh one. When when your head guy,

989
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: you see him not cavin everyone else. Okay, I can relax,

990
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: especially in today's game where it is males. You were

991
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: kind of a pioneer of your industry of not having

992
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: the big leading experience. Now it's almost like a prerequisite

993
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: if you played, you're like almost black balls from being

994
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: a coach. They want no experience, which doesn't make sense

995
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: to me because the information is great, but the experience

996
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: paired with the information is electric. There's nothing better than it.

997
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 4: So that's why you guys were so dynamic, and it

998
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 4: felt like you had two hitting coaches that could relate

999
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 4: to two.

1000
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 3: Different mentalities of hitters, right.

1001
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 4: And you guys did such a good job of balancing

1002
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 4: that and having fun in our work and the workout

1003
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 4: that you guys like the hitting coaches and like usually

1004
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: the strength guy. They're like the boys, right, you know,

1005
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 4: they're usually part of the boys.

1006
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 6: And we're done in the cage all day.

1007
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 7: You hear anything from everybody, right, and we're all trying

1008
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 7: to figure out what do you see anything with him?

1009
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 7: And you guys did a really good job of talking

1010
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 7: to each other too. And I think some of the

1011
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 7: best instruction you remember as playing is coming from your peers,

1012
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 7: guys that stand in the box, right, for sure. And

1013
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 7: we had a really good group where everybody worked together.

1014
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: And then I would make males. He would slip to

1015
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: me behind the L screen.

1016
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: But he's righty, so if you're lefty with the righty arm,

1017
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: you get blocked by the big pull on the L screen,

1018
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: so I would never really see his arm action. So

1019
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: for me, my timing was big. You know, I'm humping,

1020
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: I get the leg kick and all that stuff. So

1021
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: if I couldn't see the arm at all my timing

1022
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: and the cages mess up. If my timing is messed

1023
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 1: up off soft toss, I was a zoo. So I'd

1024
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: make a move out from the l screen to the

1025
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: side so I could see his arm flip and then

1026
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: he'd like run back in and now ten years later

1027
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: he's blaming me for his knee issues.

1028
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 6: Tournament tournaments. So I would have to stand there and picture.

1029
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 7: You're in front of a screen, so only thing here's

1030
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 7: our arms. You know, my whole body had to be

1031
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 7: out and he's only eighteen feet away. So as I

1032
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 7: flip it, I've got to release it and get back

1033
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 7: there as it's hitting it.

1034
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 6: One hundred and ten.

1035
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 5: I think what I learned from him too was routine

1036
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 5: players are routine based. I was like crazy, right, but

1037
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 5: I wanted to be the face you saw when you

1038
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 5: walked into the cage, no matters what time it was.

1039
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 5: You taught me that you can't not be in the cage.

1040
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 5: So they walk in there and they have to look

1041
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 5: for the hitting coaches. Their routines fucked up. Wow, So

1042
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 5: I made it a point to always be there. And

1043
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 5: that might have been, you know, nine hours a day

1044
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 5: in the cage. But for sure I was there for you.

1045
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 5: I was always there. Hey, absence makes the heart grow fonder,

1046
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 5: but too much absence makes the heart wander.

1047
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: What knowledge? Straight?

1048
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: Now we want to talk about relationships. Yeah, I'm gonna

1049
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: test you here. What what are our two songs? What

1050
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: are our two favorite songs?

1051
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 5: Every Rose has a Storm?

1052
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: That's all right now?

1053
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 5: Three? Okay? Adele? Which one though?

1054
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: Olivia Rodrigo.

1055
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: Drivers and Lady Gaga shallow shallo?

1056
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, very yeah.

1057
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: Piano that we got We got into New York. I

1058
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: think it was at sixteen. We got real late.

1059
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 5: It wasn't a dell. You loved the dell. You love

1060
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 5: to hit to her?

1061
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: I loved it still. I walked up to him the

1062
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: gym two days ago. I'm like, is Z. He's like, sorry,

1063
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: what what bumping?

1064
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: So we got into New York one night late, real late,

1065
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: and we and you went to a karaoke bar and

1066
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: we're just crazy singing every roll. Just shut the bar down.

1067
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: Five six o'clock. I go to AA Bagel their clothes.

1068
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: I walk in.

1069
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, tipsy, no, we're closed. I just hand them

1070
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars bell. I'm like, give me something, Okay.

1071
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: Thank you. They give me like three bagels. They were

1072
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: so they loved me.

1073
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 5: There. Did you get any hits the next day?

1074
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: I did, because you got a post.

1075
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 5: How along you werout last night?

1076
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: Doesn't you can't? For me?

1077
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: I loved I really enjoyed going out, and I knew

1078
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: the balance of playing every day. But when you did

1079
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: go out and you had those iconic nights, you knew

1080
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: the next day like, you've got to be accountable to

1081
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: your teammates and you're cure and you better turn it on.

1082
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: There's no like, ah, I'm tired.

1083
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 1: Like that's the days you need to post the most,

1084
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: and those are some of my favorite days.

1085
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 7: Look, those are usually some of the better days guys

1086
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 7: do because they don't think so much, right, they get

1087
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 7: out of all of this and that I'm just trying

1088
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 7: to see this ball. I'm just trying to hit the

1089
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 7: one in the middle. Males, I'm gonna hit off his forehead. Totally,

1090
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 7: very simple plan. You're looking for a ball in the

1091
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 7: middle and you're going right back there, and that usually

1092
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 7: lines your back up to where you.

1093
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: Need to be for two three weeks. The lines you you.

1094
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 7: Look at guys that come back from injuries and they're

1095
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 7: always hot when they come back, and they think they're

1096
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 7: not going to have any timing because they just they

1097
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 7: don't expect anything, right.

1098
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 6: I just want to compete here. I'm not supposed to

1099
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 6: get it hit. I haven't played in two weeks.

1100
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 7: And then you're not thinking and you're just hitting. And

1101
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 7: then when you stop and you start raking, and then

1102
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 7: you go bad a little bit, and all of a.

1103
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 6: Sudden, I'm doing this.

1104
00:44:58,719 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: I'm doing this, I'm doing that.

1105
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 7: And that's why I think having that time away from

1106
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 7: the park where you can get and it don't have

1107
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 7: to be drinking all night or whatever, just getting away

1108
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 7: from the game and spending with your family and the

1109
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 7: guys that have the kids.

1110
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 6: And now you go home and take care of the family.

1111
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: You care about the guys you're around.

1112
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 7: You disrespect, right, If I respect you, I'm gonna I'm not.

1113
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 7: I'm gonna take a good secondary and lead at second

1114
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 7: base because I'm trying to win the fucking game and

1115
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 7: you're dogging it out there.

1116
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: When I respect.

1117
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: When I remember walking down the tunnel in Game seven

1118
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: right to the cage in Cleveland, the cage is like

1119
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: it feels like a half a mile away, it's a

1120
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: long it's through the whole concourse underneath the tunnel and

1121
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: through that concourse. Yet all the media, I saw David

1122
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: Ortiz walking by Game seven, like saying what's up, and

1123
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm like zoned in and I'm going down there and

1124
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: I know that you two are there, and it's like

1125
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: just this calm presence of like looking at I just

1126
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: remember looking at you guys and just being like yep,

1127
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: like not more than five words were said, was just like, well,

1128
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: that's that's the fucking did my routine, did my flips,

1129
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: hit a little bit off the arm off and looked

1130
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: at you guys, and just like one, let's go.

1131
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 4: That was my like without getting all emotional, because this

1132
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 4: is what I do. But like I remember going down

1133
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 4: and males we it was super quiet and he got

1134
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 4: done flipping and he like walks towards me as I'm

1135
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 4: about to leave, He's like Rossie, Rossie, I'm like, what's

1136
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 4: up and he just starts you started in on telling

1137
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: me like what you know, like the nice things that

1138
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: you said a little earlier.

1139
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 3: I was I'll never forget that.

1140
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, bro, we got I

1141
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 4: can get rid of a game I'm getting I'm like

1142
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 4: emotional right now, but it was like it meant a

1143
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: lot to me. I'll never forget, like how you talked

1144
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 4: about like the year and and me and and you know,

1145
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: the respect you had for me and what I brought

1146
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 4: to the team.

1147
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 3: All that stuff was was really cool.

1148
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 4: So thank you for that and that, but it was

1149
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: it was cool to uh write for game seven, I'm

1150
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 4: trying to get locked in and freaking males and got

1151
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 4: me trying leaving the cage pretty game.

1152
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: It's what it took, and hopefully throughout as we interview everyone,

1153
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm saying this again, I feel like, but without

1154
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: you too, in my life, in my career, there's I

1155
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: don't accomplish any I'm not a world champion. I don't

1156
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: play for as long as I do because because of

1157
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: your guidance. And I feel very lucky, blessed because seriously,

1158
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: without you telling me what a lot of take getting

1159
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: on the plate you us.

1160
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: I know it sounds weird, but doing the shrine work

1161
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: and believe in me.

1162
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm not the player I was in twenty sixteen, and

1163
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: maybe we're not the team we were and we're not.

1164
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 4: The player you were, but well, I wish you guys

1165
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 4: would to help me on the two twenty batting appage,

1166
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: I mean my career.

1167
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 6: Some people you can't right.

1168
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 2: Some people were just stunted.

1169
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: It's just another really testament to the Puzzle of twenty sixteen,

1170
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: where we said it in an episode before this, but

1171
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: it was like without every single player in personnel, we

1172
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: don't win. There's no way without males. There's no Ski

1173
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: without Ski, there's no males. You guys fist pumping each other,

1174
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: We're cock bumping in the dugout doing all this stuff, henn.

1175
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 2: Screaming. If pictures even hinted at looking at our dugout

1176
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: being ski would be wearing them the fuck out and

1177
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: I would play with guys later on my career. Garrett

1178
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 2: Cole is one of them, Like, Bro, I heard.

1179
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: You all the time because we would just wear guys

1180
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: out and scream at them. And it wasn't a disrespect thing,

1181
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: it was just it was already heard.

1182
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 4: We heard so much about winning, and here locked in

1183
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 4: on other people who talking about carring.

1184
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: You're locked in on other people's at bats because we're

1185
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: all invested in one of those.

1186
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 7: When the decks let off with that home run, you

1187
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 7: see decks running down the first they show him and

1188
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 7: the dug up going like this, Oh yeah, man, he goes,

1189
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 7: fuck you Klueber, We're gonna be here all fucking nuts.

1190
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: Sorry, but that's what it is. Respect all due respect.

1191
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 7: But that's why what we felt that, you know what

1192
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 7: I mean, because we knew we stuck together. And then

1193
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 7: you guys, I'm sure we'll get into what happened when

1194
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 7: the rain came, you know what I mean?

1195
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: And yeah, why do you guys remember about that?

1196
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 4: We've asked everybody about, Like I know the coaches weren't

1197
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 4: in the room, but like we were almost dead.

1198
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: And then coming.

1199
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 4: Out of that, what did you guys feel when we

1200
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: got back in and out of the rain away?

1201
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 5: Well, I poured a drink, we all did, being honest, Yeah,

1202
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 5: I was like, fuck, I got it.

1203
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 7: People don't know about as.

1204
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 5: When who's dude that hit the home er off Chatman?

1205
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 5: Still to this day that allowed us I have ever

1206
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 5: heard of stadium in my life. The momentum was gone.

1207
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 5: We were like, oh God, like this.

1208
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 6: Is city was shaken. You could feel the ground.

1209
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 5: Movie and I was just like having a good meeting

1210
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 5: down there in that weight room because we got to

1211
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 5: win this thing and I can't go home and whatever.

1212
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 5: I still do this day. I were coaches. I don't

1213
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 5: even know what happened about it. Yeah, I have no idea.

1214
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: It's it's all.

1215
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: That's how tight the boys were when we were in there.

1216
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 2: It was like, we're gonna fucking do this. We're Jays

1217
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 2: say it in full.

1218
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: But it couldn't have happened though without you too, and we

1219
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: thank you for being on.

1220
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 4: Do you have a you have a favorite moment from

1221
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 4: two sixteen season or postseason?

1222
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 2: You have anything that comes to mind.

1223
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 12: I like the Giant Series and the pimped the home

1224
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 12: run and almost him doing that was the Giant Series.

1225
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 5: Contro hit the ball up the middle. That was a

1226
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 5: rage fast in our dugout, we were going nuts. And

1227
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 5: then that flight home, everybody banged up. Yeah that was

1228
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 5: flight too.

1229
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah that was a good yeah, because well we won

1230
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: Game four in San Francisco, which clinch go.

1231
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 5: Back to the face Quato if we if we didn't win.

1232
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: We had Quato and Cuto nasty.

1233
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: He had a great career, but he was like his

1234
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: best then and we barely beat him one nothing in

1235
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: Game one and we were on what four or five runs,

1236
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: and we came back in the ninth and that was

1237
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: kind of the Giants Achilles Heels their bullpen and it

1238
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: was the even year. All this ship was like, oh fuck,

1239
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: we got to play them in game five. So when

1240
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: we won that game, it was like you said a

1241
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: rage fast on the way home and coming back. Those

1242
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: are the moments though, that made us closer. I say

1243
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: this all the time to team, to our teams. When

1244
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: I made the playoffs after it's like, you think we're close.

1245
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: Now every single playoff game you win, we're about to

1246
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: get closer. Every series we're about to get closer. And

1247
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: winning at all it's like this, it's been ten years.

1248
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: We haven't been together in years, hanging out like we

1249
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: love you guys, like yesterday that we were all together

1250
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: in this bubble of just happiness and the grind.

1251
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, its are sober now what they all happened? Yes

1252
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 2: five years?

1253
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 4: Thanks for having coming on man, what We're so thankful

1254
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 4: obviously we love you and can't wait a party tonight.

1255
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 5: Let's do it. You know, we'll do anything for you guys.

1256
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 5: Anything I didn't have to wrap. Thanks boy,