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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lally. He is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: and Matt. I don't know if you saw this one

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Speaker 1: last week, but Bucky Brooks put out his top five

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Speaker 1: draft prospects by position. I thought we'd go over that today.

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Speaker 1: With the Combine getting ready to kick off, well basically

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Speaker 1: next week at this time, we'll be there as we

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Speaker 1: will be on the air a week from today live

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Speaker 1: every day for Tuesday through Friday, we have shows from

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Speaker 1: ten until four pm live on Steelers Nation Radio from

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Speaker 1: the Combine in Indianapolis. And so let's take a look

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Speaker 1: at Bucky's top five guys at each position. While I

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Speaker 1: would do that if the where the heck did it go? Here?

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Speaker 1: It was on here, Now it's gone. I hate you

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Speaker 1: know that. The NFL website found it's the worst website

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Speaker 1: in the world. It's awful. I scrolled all the way

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Speaker 1: right and I just found I've looked at this. I

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Speaker 1: did a little search. I'm like, oh, that's there, it is,

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Speaker 1: and then it's not there. Um, let me see here, Bucky, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: where you at? Bucky there it is, Okay, So Buckie's

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Speaker 1: list is a little different. His usually is a little

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Speaker 1: bit different. He walks to his own beat. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: just follow the crowd. So at quarterback, he's got c. J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud number one over Bryce Young. He's got Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: number two, Okay, got Hendon Hooker number three, and then

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Speaker 1: followed by Will Levis and Tanner McKee. So he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have Richardson in his top five, and he's down on

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Speaker 1: Levis obviously. Yeah, well I think he's more Is he

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Speaker 1: more high on Hendon Hooker? Possibly? His big knocks are

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Speaker 1: blew out his ACL and he's old and he's one

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Speaker 1: year basically a production. Yeah, But if you're Seattle or Detroit,

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Speaker 1: do you have two first round picks and you can

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Speaker 1: get two quality players there and then Hooker in the

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Speaker 1: second and just red shirt behind goffor Gino for a year,

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Speaker 1: do you really care that he's at old? You know? Yeah? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean he just started that you're starting quarterback this

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Speaker 1: past season. It was basically at what thirty three years

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Speaker 1: old in his first fully full season as a starter

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Speaker 1: in ten years? Right, Like, it doesn't bother me that

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett came in the year, you know, a year

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Speaker 1: older than most. Now, quarterback's gonna play a decade regardless

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Speaker 1: he wants to. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's just doesn't

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Speaker 1: bother me at all. Yeah. Now for Hooker, they probably

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Speaker 1: the acl taire was suffered in November. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: so he probably isn't. He's probably gonna miss your entire offseason,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine, which hurts he count on him at

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Speaker 1: all for his rookie year. Yeah, but that hurts his

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Speaker 1: potentially hurts his development. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what I mean,

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Speaker 1: like the chances of him being ready without being able

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Speaker 1: to do anything. Like does he even play in the

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Speaker 1: preseason this year, I don't know, Probably not, So he's

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Speaker 1: a total red shirt. Yeah, which means you know next

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Speaker 1: you're going in the next year. Again, if you take

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Speaker 1: him in the second round. Well, now you've burned the

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Speaker 1: first year. Yeah. Year two is essentially his rookie year,

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Speaker 1: and then you've got him for two more years after that.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem. That's why I brought Seattle on Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Like the train's still rolling forward. You're better, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're making progress as an organization. You're happy enough with

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Speaker 1: your quarterback, go from there. Yeah. At running back, he

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Speaker 1: has Bijean Robinson number one, though surprisera Jamir Gibbs too,

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Speaker 1: Zach Charbonnet out of UCLA three, Devin or Kane at

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Speaker 1: A Texas A and M four, and Dwayne McBride out

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Speaker 1: all that much. But this is a really good running

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Speaker 1: back class. The more homework I've done on it, there's

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Speaker 1: ten to twelve potential starters. Yeah, that's a good it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's very much like the twenty seventeen draft. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's Connor year. That was a Connor year. That's when

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Speaker 1: you know McCaffrey went in the first round. There were

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Speaker 1: guys there there actual first round running backs who you know,

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Speaker 1: Bijean Robinson could if if somebody took Bijean Robinson third overall,

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Speaker 1: which isn't gonna happen, right, that's talent wise, that's where

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Speaker 1: you can't take a running back that high. Well, then

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Speaker 1: every then nobody you know, Okay, your point last segment two,

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Speaker 1: you franchise tag him at twelve million a couple of

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Speaker 1: let's put it this way, Matt, So, McCaffrey was a ten.

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Speaker 1: It was a top ten draft pick, right. The Panthers

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Speaker 1: when he played, he was worth that that draft pick.

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Speaker 1: Then they traded him for a whole bunch of draft picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good point. So they've got value out of out of

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Speaker 1: out of Christian McCaffrey on the field and in terms

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Speaker 1: the deal. And I'm almost certain that he's the highest

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Speaker 1: like thirteen million a year. It's not that crazy, right,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing about it. Yeah, real quick, on Beijon, Like

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Speaker 1: I know you and I are gonna do like our

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Speaker 1: But if someone had him third, I would totally understand.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a better football player than any these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's gonna step right in and day one

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Speaker 1: and be a starter. Yeah, he's gonna be a first

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Speaker 1: round Fantasy pick next year, right, he'll be. Will he

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Speaker 1: be the number one pick in Dynasty? How about this

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Speaker 1: du He's already and we don't even know what team

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Speaker 1: he's on. He's already the most valuable Dynasty running back.

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Speaker 1: Everyone would trade Jonathan Taylor straight up for a bijon. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he's a junior. He's coming out as a junior.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty one years old. You gotta get six or

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Speaker 1: Like in Dynasty, handful of receivers go ahead of him,

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver. And this you see a lot of

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Speaker 1: a bunch of money already. So because of the nil stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I have questions about this receiver class. I don't

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Speaker 1: love it at all. Yeah, it's not like it's not

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Speaker 1: Um When maybe we're sitting here next year at this time,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, quite possibly, But I also don't see

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Speaker 1: there was five of those last year. That's the problem. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers should just wait until day you know, late

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Speaker 1: in day two or early day three to take another

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Now I trust them to identify a guy, sure,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know that there's as many guys in

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Speaker 1: because teams need wide receivers because they don't want to

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Speaker 1: pay him nineteen million dollars. This next position has me

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Speaker 1: all bubbly though. Tight end, Yeah, they're good. So he's

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Speaker 1: got Michael Mayer number one, Dalton Kinkaid out of Utah

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Speaker 1: to get one of the top ten tight ends. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Sam Laporta from Iowa is a good player. It's just

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Speaker 1: Pat Fiarrenmouth. Yeah, yeah, right, because he's a combo tight

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Speaker 1: North Dakota State. That's a fair group. And I also think,

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Speaker 1: like most years in the Steelers neighborhood, seventeen to fifty ish,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're reaching too much on the tackles

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Speaker 1: that will be there. You know, Jones, you know a

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Speaker 1: if you look at this, so Paris Johnson and Skerronsky

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Speaker 1: ten picks. No, they're not Penny swar. Yeah, they might

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's necessarily their direction to Steelers

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Speaker 1: him for that number two spot. Yeah, right, linebackers, this

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any other corner I'd take

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Speaker 1: be some corner signed that's not currently Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: And that's a short list for me right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who would you take at seventeen in February twenty first

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Speaker 1: so that is Bucky Brooks initial top five rankings. Those

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Speaker 1: You know, as you get older, you can use your

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Speaker 1: But again alleviates some of those concerns. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: gonna be heavy. Bryce Young is. Right now, Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: one seventies at Alabama. Oh yeah, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think you were saying testing stuff doesn't

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Speaker 1: and there's definitely value to what I call assembly line scouting.

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Speaker 1: everybody else did you know? Yeah, big thing I do

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