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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, October nineteenth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen,
Speaker 1: episode number fifty seven. Welcome to another edition of The
Speaker 1: Break Live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. We got
Speaker 1: so much to get into today. We didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to get to a lot of our talk yesterday
Speaker 1: around San Francisco forty nine ers, but still was a
Speaker 1: good show. Yesterday had an opportunity to have Daniel Wallat
Speaker 1: join us to talk a little bit more about the
Speaker 1: legal aspects of Zeke's case, and it sounds like from
Speaker 1: what the fans have at least tweeted me, they got
Speaker 1: out a lot out of it. So I thought it
Speaker 1: was a good show. But to day we were going
Speaker 1: to focus in on the San Francisco forty niners. Cowboys
Speaker 1: traveled to San Francisco this Saturday and on Sunday at
Speaker 1: three oh five Central time, they'll they'll kick off. Let's
Speaker 1: start first with injuries. We had a couple of different
Speaker 1: guys on the injury report that did not practice yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I need to get some clarity from you guys
Speaker 1: on whether fans should be concerned about this because he
Speaker 1: seemed to be things that keep lingering on. You thought
Speaker 1: over bye week, maybe you get out of there and
Speaker 1: you have a clean injury report. But there were two
Speaker 1: guys that didn't practice, Chobei A. Woozier and Tyren Smith.
Speaker 1: What you we think. I think that especially with Tyron Smith,
Speaker 1: that he's gonna get just about every Wednesday off. That's
Speaker 1: just that's it's almost like the Tony Romo plan for him.
Speaker 1: And until he can figure something out, and it's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be in the off season, I would imagine there
Speaker 1: could be surgery in his future. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to manage this the best way they
Speaker 1: can and Wednesday after Wednesday's practice is probably more of
Speaker 1: a routine schedule miss for him. I'm not worried about
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith's ability to get ready to play in a game.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you couldn't be worried about Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith's like long term future as it stands right now,
Speaker 1: because this is season number three where this has at
Speaker 1: least been a thing where this is I mean, he's
Speaker 1: only missed two games ever because of it, but they
Speaker 1: managed him in training camp. He missed two games last year.
Speaker 1: He's had weeks like this where you're sitting him down
Speaker 1: and limiting him and it's his back and he's he's
Speaker 1: an offensive line. I mean, you need your back to
Speaker 1: play sports regardless, but like you spend your career in
Speaker 1: a two point stance on the offensive line, so I
Speaker 1: need your back for every profession. Yeah, well maybe I
Speaker 1: think you would be a writer with I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: I just sit in a chair all day. I mean
Speaker 1: you have bad back though, the way you sit, no
Speaker 1: doubt it's gonna catch It's gonna catch up to you. Kid.
Speaker 1: That was really good. It's really good, really good, And
Speaker 1: there's no way that was planned. No, no, it's really good.
Speaker 1: But that was flat. That was off the again. Tyrant
Speaker 1: Smith is twenty six years old and still has a
Speaker 1: large chunk of his contract left. Luckily, it's like the
Speaker 1: team friendliest contract in the history of the world. But
Speaker 1: like I said, I just I mean, and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I'm not saying like he's gonna have to retire
Speaker 1: or anything, or I don't know what's in his future,
Speaker 1: but like, how can you not be concerned that he
Speaker 1: keeps showing up on the injury report? And back injuries
Speaker 1: are one of those injuries that you can really heal. Like,
Speaker 1: once you have a back injury, you have it for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life. So I am concerned about
Speaker 1: his future. Again, I don't really know the severity of it,
Speaker 1: but just seeing that, yeah, he wasn't able to practice,
Speaker 1: but going back to last year, him being out two games,
Speaker 1: and they say, this is a different That's what Garrett
Speaker 1: keeps saying. Yeah, he keeps saying it's different. It's not
Speaker 1: the same, it's not it's he just it's tightness. He
Speaker 1: used the word inflamed yesterday, and and Garrett's sure to
Speaker 1: all he's always sure to say that he's not a doctor.
Speaker 1: And I'm definitely not a doctor, Uh, just an attorney
Speaker 1: you've become. I feel like I, unofficially I've never felt
Speaker 1: stupider than I did during that segment on that show yesterday.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad. I'm glad the fans. Glad the fans
Speaker 1: got something out of it, because I was just like, what, well, Um,
Speaker 1: It's like, do you believe that all of Tony Romo's
Speaker 1: back issues were just non related? How he had a
Speaker 1: herniated disc here, and he had another herniated disc, and
Speaker 1: he had the transverse process injury, and then he had
Speaker 1: another back. I mean, Okay, there might have been all different,
Speaker 1: but it's all from the same area. So I and
Speaker 1: it's you're talking about, I mean, you have to move here,
Speaker 1: I mean to next point. You gotta move your back
Speaker 1: to play. So it's always if it's something, if it's
Speaker 1: even if it's different things, if your backs just give
Speaker 1: new problems, like, it's not something you can rest or
Speaker 1: really with fix I mean without surgery. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: surgery might be. But then again, like I said about Romo,
Speaker 1: it was then something else, and DeMarcus ware kind of
Speaker 1: was the same way, and they act back. DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: is similar. Don't don't go, don't go any further with that.
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence he had back surgeries in two consecutive offseasons.
Speaker 1: He finally looks like he's over it now. But it
Speaker 1: took a hell of a lot of time. So, like
Speaker 1: I said, I think Tyron Smith will be out there
Speaker 1: against San Francisco and I think he'll play just fine.
Speaker 1: But long term, big picture, it's got to be concerning. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And as for Cheeto, I don't even I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do with that guy anymore. Um. He it's
Speaker 1: been an issue for him since mid August, and you know,
Speaker 1: he played through the Giants game, he left in the
Speaker 1: Denver game, and every time you think he's coming back,
Speaker 1: he's it's he's had a setback with it. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming him for that, but it just is
Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, I don't know if it's a
Speaker 1: good point. I meant he had a setback every time
Speaker 1: he's tried to play. I mean, you know, was it
Speaker 1: the Rams or the Packers. He played the game, but
Speaker 1: they they pulled him because he felt it tightened up
Speaker 1: on it. So I didn't mean, I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: too early to say yesterday as a setback, but it's
Speaker 1: just something that he's been perpetually dealing with since August.
Speaker 1: Garrett said he was going to be on the field limited,
Speaker 1: but they did list him As did not practice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we'll see today. Yeah, do you expected maybe he
Speaker 1: returns today. I would expect him to be limited today. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is an interesting point though, because we're talking about
Speaker 1: that open roster spot. I do expect them to make
Speaker 1: a move. Common sense tells you maybe defensive tackle because
Speaker 1: Stephen pie retired, Lewis Neil and Richard Ashe are there.
Speaker 1: But if Cheeto can't get this thing right for the game,
Speaker 1: then maybe you're thinking cornerback. You've got Mark Quaiz White
Speaker 1: sitting there, so you know that gives them something to consider.
Speaker 1: I would imagine that move will probably happen on Saturday.
Speaker 1: That's what teams typically do. So that's something to watch
Speaker 1: right when we're on the plane. Yeah, right, driving too.
Speaker 1: When I like, I'm gonna sit there with my laptop
Speaker 1: on Saturday morning, I'm just gonna sit in me like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm ready to write this when it happens,
Speaker 1: and then finally I'm going to close it and and say,
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta go to the airport. And right
Speaker 1: when I turned the ignition on my car, that's when
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the email that you know, it might
Speaker 1: be the smartest thing what's that write it before, send
Speaker 1: it on over to Kent and then hit to the
Speaker 1: airport and say, whenever this breaks, here's your article. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a great plan, like no one's ever thought
Speaker 1: about doing that. But you know what, when that happens,
Speaker 1: then they take Darryl Reeves something like that, somebody that
Speaker 1: you would try to stay a step ahead, and you
Speaker 1: still get I had I had a lot, right, three
Speaker 1: or three to five different stories. Let's go all the
Speaker 1: way from this. I'm trying to go out with a
Speaker 1: fun time on Friday, still the fifty third roster spot
Speaker 1: after I wrote twelve paragraphs that they signed a Namdi
Speaker 1: awesome wa and then that had to just delete the
Speaker 1: whole thing because the novel idea how about just tweeted
Speaker 1: it's the fifty third man on the rock, all right,
Speaker 1: that's recorded on the podcast for posterity. So when there's
Speaker 1: no story on Saturday, just playing, I'm just playing, Um,
Speaker 1: is there a reason there's not a story? There a
Speaker 1: reason why we didn't cover Marquez White getting called up
Speaker 1: or yeah, Derek, I was driving the A. I try
Speaker 1: to ask questions. I don't assume anything. I like to questions.
Speaker 1: When I end up doing that, like I always think
Speaker 1: of you, and I'm like, you know, it's the better approach.
Speaker 1: It is the better approach because you never know, I've
Speaker 1: been burned a few times where I went all in,
Speaker 1: you know, like, hey, why didn't I mean, what's going on?
Speaker 1: You're like? And I thought about it later. I was like,
Speaker 1: I probably should have asked a question rather than just
Speaker 1: like going at people. But so now I asked the really,
Speaker 1: we don't have this story up? Yeah, Charlotte Anderson told
Speaker 1: us not too. Okay, yeah, good idea. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: let's let's jump back in. Let's talk about I guess
Speaker 1: move on to the San Francisco forty nine ers and Dave.
Speaker 1: Yesterday we did a little bit of a breakdown. You
Speaker 1: d gave us a little bit of a scattering port.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I kind of missed it.
Speaker 1: You were thinking about what we were doing to get
Speaker 1: our guests on yesterday. It's really hard to talk when
Speaker 1: you know that nobody when you're talking to is not
Speaker 1: listening to you. Just so you know, like I'm not
Speaker 1: oblivious to that. Trying Okay, you know what, real quick
Speaker 1: it prepares you for marriage, though, So just get there.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, shit, I didn't, but it's so true. God,
Speaker 1: I was thinking how you said yesterday, how I was saying, like,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really affect us, the whole Seek thing. But
Speaker 1: look at this week. We haven't talked about the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers yet, and we did spend the whole show
Speaker 1: talking about Seek yesterday. So yeah, it affects us. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, I don't know if it affects everybody in
Speaker 1: the locker room like that, but hey, it's probably a
Speaker 1: bit of a distraction. I can give you that. Would
Speaker 1: you like me to redo the offense? Yes, I work
Speaker 1: with the defense. Why don't we do this? Why don't
Speaker 1: you give us a full team scattering report. Let's or
Speaker 1: better yet, tell you what, Let's start with the offense,
Speaker 1: and then once you give us the offense, then I
Speaker 1: want to ask the question to Amber and Nick regarding
Speaker 1: the San Francisco offense, what concerns you most? Then we'll
Speaker 1: do a scattering report on the defense, and then we'll
Speaker 1: ask the same question to him about the defense. Does
Speaker 1: that sound good? All right? All right, let's go. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try to abbreviate this because I did do this yesterday.
Speaker 1: Just you can just run because you weren't listening. Fans
Speaker 1: weren't the main thing. I mean, the obvious thing is
Speaker 1: that CJ. Beth is going to make his first start
Speaker 1: in this game. And that all sounds well and good.
Speaker 1: Tell me how good he is. Well, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a rookie. That's that's my point. Like it sounds like
Speaker 1: a favorable matchup, But he came in against a pretty
Speaker 1: good Washington team and played really well. I mean, given
Speaker 1: the circumstances. I mean, he comes in, okay, first possessions,
Speaker 1: a punt, then he goes touchdown, field goal, missfield goal, touchdown, punt, touchdown,
Speaker 1: and like we said, he had him in position to
Speaker 1: try to set up a game winning field goal, bad penalty,
Speaker 1: ultimately gets picked off to end the game. Does that happen? Sometimes?
Speaker 1: More frequently when a team goes into the week preparing
Speaker 1: for one quarterback, that quarterback comes out another quarterback that
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't prepare for, especially guys they don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of tape on, comes in and now can
Speaker 1: do a little bit more because you don't know what
Speaker 1: he mean. There's probably something to be said for that,
Speaker 1: But I mean, you're still talking about a rookie and not,
Speaker 1: you know, not a number one overall pick, like he's
Speaker 1: a third round pick. Yeah, then to steal a line
Speaker 1: from Garrett like you would imagine in that scenario, you've
Speaker 1: got steam coming out of your ears because you're thinking
Speaker 1: so hard. Like the fact the fact that an NFL
Speaker 1: defense couldn't take better advantage of him. I mean, he
Speaker 1: might be great, but you would still give the edge
Speaker 1: to the defense and that and let's not forget the
Speaker 1: flip side of that too. Here's a rookie quarterback that
Speaker 1: didn't get any snaps all week, that's coming in there
Speaker 1: and having to play. Maybe he didn't get any snap
Speaker 1: like they may they may have been seen this coming
Speaker 1: going lastainly didn't get as many as the starter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he might, he might have gotten some. But I would
Speaker 1: really hope Kyle Shanahan didn't set Horyer up to fail
Speaker 1: and just give all the snaps to him, let him start,
Speaker 1: he didn't play well, and then pull him. So. So
Speaker 1: the big things to know obvious everybody should know. Carlos Hide,
Speaker 1: he's their second round pick from a few years, A good,
Speaker 1: good player. He's averaging four point two yards per attempt.
Speaker 1: He's Also, it kind of like Zeke in the sense
Speaker 1: that I think he could be a really good receiving
Speaker 1: running back, but they don't use him a lot. He's
Speaker 1: got twenty three receptions on the year, although he did
Speaker 1: have five once Bethard came into this game. You think
Speaker 1: safety blankets. So is that because they're dropping the ball down.
Speaker 1: That drops the ball down less like a lot of
Speaker 1: swing passes, a lot of like little run and turn
Speaker 1: around and face back to the quarterback. That's kind of
Speaker 1: a good thing for the Cowboys, right good thing for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys because right now, I mean that's good good
Speaker 1: thing for the Cowboys in the sense that he's looking
Speaker 1: for the easy throw, but it's still a dynamic player
Speaker 1: that they're getting the ball to as many ways as possible.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, and yeah, Sean Lee is supposed
Speaker 1: to be back, but if you're not tackling, well, who
Speaker 1: cares that? That could be bad stuff. Um. Pierre Garson
Speaker 1: is the other guy that everybody should know. Got the
Speaker 1: don't forget to put the little squiggle on this seat.
Speaker 1: His last name U Thirty three catches this year, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: but he's average thirteen yards per catch. He's not a
Speaker 1: big touchdown guy anyway, even when he was with Washington.
Speaker 1: He's like a weird mix between a big play guy
Speaker 1: and a possession guy. Like he's a little bit of both.
Speaker 1: A lot of volume for him, like he'll catch a
Speaker 1: lot of balls, he's not like he's not purely explosive
Speaker 1: like a DeShawn Jackson, but he's not like this unathletic bum.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, um, by far the best receiver though
Speaker 1: by far, by far, I mean Mark Marquis, Marquis Goodwin,
Speaker 1: who's mainly famous for being a track runner, and Aldrick Robinson.
Speaker 1: Aldrick Robinson did actually have a big touchdown catch in
Speaker 1: this Redskins game. But he's got He's got nine catches
Speaker 1: on the year on twenty four targets, So that tells
Speaker 1: me they're looking for him on a lot of chunk
Speaker 1: plays and they're not really hitting him that much. The
Speaker 1: one thing I will say about Marquis Goodwin, and I
Speaker 1: know this because obviously he was a Texas guy, but he,
Speaker 1: like you said, he's a track guy. He can burn
Speaker 1: you down. Oh he's fast as they stretched the field
Speaker 1: kind of guy. For sure. He's the everyone's got one
Speaker 1: of those though. See but the all right Nick, the
Speaker 1: the Condon. The opposite of that argument is that he's
Speaker 1: he's good for like two of those per years, Like
Speaker 1: he's got sixteen catches, could be this week, right, which
Speaker 1: it could. But yeah, he's probably gonna get three looks
Speaker 1: in this game, and one of them will probably be
Speaker 1: on like an eighty yard go route. And you just
Speaker 1: hope that your cornerbacks up to the challenge. And what
Speaker 1: you don't want to see is your safety doing the
Speaker 1: handclap like that meant something bad happened. He got loose
Speaker 1: in the meantime, Like I said yesterday, like this looks
Speaker 1: like a West Coast offense type of team, just in
Speaker 1: the sense of like they love them some twelve personnel.
Speaker 1: George Kittle, who's I think a fifth round rookie this year,
Speaker 1: and Garrett I can't remember, Jason, Oh no, no no, Garrett Selleck,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, Garrett Selleck is their other tight end.
Speaker 1: They're out there all the time. They use him to block,
Speaker 1: they use him to receive. Kittle's got twenty one catches
Speaker 1: this year as a again a rookie, and he's kind
Speaker 1: of there do everything tight end, a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of passes, near the line of scrimmage. I imagine
Speaker 1: that will continue with a rookie being their quarterback. But
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's like a it's a heavy personnel
Speaker 1: type of team. Like it looks it looks kind of
Speaker 1: old school when you watch them play like it's they're
Speaker 1: not doing that five wide, skinny little receivers at every spot.
Speaker 1: They got a lot of a lot of big bodies
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, it's when you look at them statistically,
Speaker 1: they don't do anything particularly well. They're in the bottom quarter.
Speaker 1: I mean, they really did in the bottom third, bottom
Speaker 1: quarter of the league in almost every offensive statistical category
Speaker 1: that you that you look at. The one that stood
Speaker 1: out is rush yards per attempt. There they average four
Speaker 1: point two yards per rushing attempt, and that puts them
Speaker 1: thirteenth in the league. Again saying that maybe they're not
Speaker 1: running the ball enough, but when they do, they've been
Speaker 1: fairly successful with it. So that's something worth noting, especially
Speaker 1: against this team that has given up something in I mean,
Speaker 1: they haven't been great against the run, so that's something
Speaker 1: worth noting going into this game. A name that I
Speaker 1: also would recommend you know is Matt Breda. He's their
Speaker 1: number two running back. He's an undrafted free agent out
Speaker 1: of Georgia Southern. He's got thirty four carries for one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards, give or take. He doesn't touch
Speaker 1: the ball a lot in a given game, it seems like,
Speaker 1: but when he does, he rips off eight to ten yards.
Speaker 1: Like it seemed like every time he touched the ball
Speaker 1: he was either catching a short pass and taking it
Speaker 1: eight nine yards or just going right through the line
Speaker 1: like he's he kind of took again to quote Garrett,
Speaker 1: he's kind of got that. I hate that. I just
Speaker 1: said that out loud, but I do too. Didn't roll
Speaker 1: off your tongue like it does. It doesn't roll off
Speaker 1: his tongue either. It's not a good catch phrase, but
Speaker 1: it's good on a T shirt. Sure, But he kind
Speaker 1: of pops off the tape when you watch him play
Speaker 1: a little bit. All right, cool, Amber, give me one
Speaker 1: thing about this offense that concerned you going into this game, Well,
Speaker 1: you kind of mention it just now. The running game
Speaker 1: kind of interesting to see how they go up against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, especially with a rookie quarterback. I'm assuming or
Speaker 1: I would expect them to rely somewhat on the running
Speaker 1: game and the Cowboys fifty percent of the time they've
Speaker 1: allowed the opposing team to rush for four plus yards
Speaker 1: on their first downs. Now we know that shan Lee
Speaker 1: is coming back. I know Shanle is not more fifty,
Speaker 1: but is he that fifty percent that this defense is missing?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Um. I expect him to make an
Speaker 1: impact for sure, but again I'm interested to see how
Speaker 1: it plays out with him being back on the field.
Speaker 1: It can't it can't just be one guy that fixes everything.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens there. So, just to be clear,
Speaker 1: you're saying, at fifty percent of the time on first
Speaker 1: down when opponents run the ball, they get four plus yards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a lot. Oh gotta be gotta be I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know, but it's pretty low. It's pretty low.
Speaker 1: Like that's one of their weakest points right now. So
Speaker 1: that again, that's something that concerns me. And we will
Speaker 1: see shan Lee back on the field. But everyone, I
Speaker 1: mean I see Twitter, and everyone seems to be expecting
Speaker 1: shan Lee to be that huge difference maker and he's
Speaker 1: gonna change this defense. I believe in shan Lee and
Speaker 1: I think he's a great player, but again, not everything
Speaker 1: can rely on one single player. Yeah, some of those games,
Speaker 1: some of those plays were in Denver. Yeah, the worst,
Speaker 1: the worst game they've had all seasons stopping the role
Speaker 1: was Endeavering. Sean was playing so and that's not to
Speaker 1: say Sean won't won't give them a big lift. I
Speaker 1: think he will, but he will. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I don't know if you can say
Speaker 1: that's gonna fix everything, right. And when you look at
Speaker 1: that number, I mean fifty percent considering all the guys
Speaker 1: are out there. We'll see how they do, but that
Speaker 1: would be an area that I would be on the
Speaker 1: lookout for. I'm gonna push all my chips into the
Speaker 1: table and say this for like the eighteen thousandth time,
Speaker 1: and I'll look either really good or really bad. But
Speaker 1: I think people undersell what it'll mean to also have
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins there. He's not a Pro Bowl player, but
Speaker 1: this will be the first game of the year where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will have both of their preferred top two
Speaker 1: linebackers playing. They're both instinctive players, they both know the
Speaker 1: scheme really well. They've played in it. I mean, Shahn's
Speaker 1: played in it for four or five years now, and
Speaker 1: Hitchins has only ever played in this scheme. So and
Speaker 1: they play fast because of that, right, and they make
Speaker 1: a good team together. They're good players, you know, and
Speaker 1: you know they're not going to magically transform into this
Speaker 1: elite unit. But they got to be able to stop
Speaker 1: the run a lot better than they have and having
Speaker 1: those two guys out there should help them do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: stopping the run makes a big difference. The linebackers that
Speaker 1: you have there, those two particular, make a big difference
Speaker 1: in your ability to stop the run. Nick, tell me
Speaker 1: what offensively about the San Francisco forty ninets concern you most?
Speaker 1: Concerns you most. We'll have two points. I didn't know
Speaker 1: which way Amber was gonna go, so I wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure I covered it up. I'll be brief. The receivers,
Speaker 1: Pierre Garston. When you look at the receivers that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have faced this year that have kind of hurt them,
Speaker 1: de Marius Thomas had had a big day, obviously, Larry
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald had a really big day. DeVante Adams did some things.
Speaker 1: All of those guys are pretty well built, big, big
Speaker 1: receivers going up against the cornerbacks. When you think about Scandrick,
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, even Jordan Lewis, they don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of size with them, so that matchup kind of worries me.
Speaker 1: Garson against them, he's a possession guy. He could kind
Speaker 1: of goes and get going. He knows him well and
Speaker 1: he's had some days against them, so that that would
Speaker 1: be one. And then another thing is that with Bethard
Speaker 1: in the game, I feel like it almost takes their
Speaker 1: bye week almost away from them because of what we
Speaker 1: said about hard to prepare. You don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of tape on them. We saw what the Giants did
Speaker 1: to Denver when they just switched up the play callers
Speaker 1: and and kind of and had different personnel in there.
Speaker 1: So I kind of wonder if having those two weeks off,
Speaker 1: that first week's kind of out the window because they didn't,
Speaker 1: you know, Bethard guide in the game. So it's almost
Speaker 1: like that that just basically stole their bye week from
Speaker 1: them and put in preparation. But on the flip side,
Speaker 1: you're playing a rookie quarterback, so that's a good thing too.
Speaker 1: So two things to worry about that maybe they're not
Speaker 1: going to be as prepared and they have some different
Speaker 1: things thrown at them. We'll take our first break when
Speaker 1: we come back. Let's flip to the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. We'll get a scatter report. We'll find out
Speaker 1: what Amber and Nick think are the biggest concerns defensively
Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers. Will do it when we
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Speaker 1: versus forty nine ers, and we've gone through the deep.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the offense for the forty nine ers. Now
Speaker 1: let's talk about the defense. Dave, give us a scouting report.
Speaker 1: I'm tempted to make you do this after the mean
Speaker 1: thing you just said to me. That was not mean,
Speaker 1: it's true, asked Nick. Has he become mister grumpy? Like?
Speaker 1: Is he always grumpy? Is he always just like, that's
Speaker 1: not that's not what you said. You know what I'm saying. Now,
Speaker 1: let's just move on. I would be offended if I
Speaker 1: was Dave. I'm not becoming Mickey. Okay, I'm not all right.
Speaker 1: You know what's fun about about what's going on? Something's fun.
Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, shut up. What's fun about what's
Speaker 1: going on with the forty nine ers defense is that
Speaker 1: they switched. I don't know about y'all, but you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of like when you think four three verse
Speaker 1: three four. The forty nine Ers are one of those
Speaker 1: teams that I've associated with a three four for a
Speaker 1: long time now. I mean they've been they were running
Speaker 1: it out there forever. They were really good while they
Speaker 1: were running it, and now they switched to a forty three.
Speaker 1: And so what's fun about that is it puts a
Speaker 1: lot of guys into favorable positions because maybe that's where
Speaker 1: they should have been. But also, you've been drafting for
Speaker 1: a three four for the last decade, so you got
Speaker 1: a lot of guys playing in weird spots. Eli Harold
Speaker 1: is one that jumps to mine. He's a second round
Speaker 1: pick who they drafted to be a rush linebacker and
Speaker 1: now he's stuck playing sam because there's he's too small
Speaker 1: to be an edge a down lineman in a four three.
Speaker 1: It's like you don't know what to do with him. Conversely,
Speaker 1: maybe their best player is DeForrest Buckner, who is now
Speaker 1: playing three tech defensive tackle in a four to three,
Speaker 1: which is probably where he should have been in the
Speaker 1: first place. So he's a better player there than he
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a great player. He's one of
Speaker 1: the it doesn't matter for him. He had three sacks
Speaker 1: as a down line I'm sorry, he had six sacks
Speaker 1: as a down lineman in a three four. As a
Speaker 1: defensive end he was a three four end. Yeah, He's
Speaker 1: got twenty nine tackles in a sack and a half
Speaker 1: through six games. He's consistently been rated one of the
Speaker 1: best interior lineman in football by you know, Pro Football
Speaker 1: Focus and all those types of places that do that
Speaker 1: type of stuff. He's the guy that I'm really looking at.
Speaker 1: And then you have Solomon Thomas, who you drafted in
Speaker 1: the top five this year, which, again, if you're still
Speaker 1: playing three four, is he outside rusher? Is he had
Speaker 1: three to four end? What do you do with him?
Speaker 1: But he's just your right end right now. And he
Speaker 1: kind of had a slow start, but I think he's
Speaker 1: figuring it out because he's been nominated for NFC Defensive
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Week three times this year already. He's Wow,
Speaker 1: he's got twenty three tacks in two sacks. Uh. So
Speaker 1: he's doing a lot better than Taco Charlton. It's not
Speaker 1: a fair comparison to throw that in. It's not a
Speaker 1: fair comparison, But I'm just saying, if you're a beast,
Speaker 1: you can figure this type of stuff out. Apparently as
Speaker 1: a rookie. Solomon Thomas, Yeah, um, you really really quick
Speaker 1: on him. You realize that that he would watch the
Speaker 1: Cowboys several times when back when they were in Valley
Speaker 1: Ranch and they'd had to go to Capel High School
Speaker 1: for um, you know days when it rained and they
Speaker 1: go into the indoor facility, which always seems weird that
Speaker 1: an NFL team would go to a high school Texas
Speaker 1: right there. Uh, And and he would he would be
Speaker 1: out there a lot. I know he's done some interviews
Speaker 1: saying that he would. He would you know, you'd like
Speaker 1: skip class, I guess and go over there and watch
Speaker 1: him play and all that. So here here he is,
Speaker 1: and that that's only you know, five or six years ago.
Speaker 1: Maybe three of the top ten picks in this past
Speaker 1: draft are all from the Dallas area. Not bad really,
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett Solomon, Thomas, Jamal Adams. Wow yea. None of
Speaker 1: them play for the Cowboys. No, unfortunately, but still impressive.
Speaker 1: They would all be upgrades at their perspective positions. Um,
Speaker 1: those stop ten picks would be okay, that's fair. Um.
Speaker 1: Eric Armstead is a guy that the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: have spent a lot of draft capital on their front
Speaker 1: seven in the last five or so years. Eric Armstead, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: he is on he is on ir he heard his wrist.
Speaker 1: I think in this past game, I'm thinking you're probably
Speaker 1: looking at Elvis Dumerville, who you probably remember. He'll probably
Speaker 1: play left end. Was with Baltimore, he was with Denver,
Speaker 1: then he was with Baltimore now and I think that's
Speaker 1: I don't know if there was a team in between there,
Speaker 1: but he's probably your starting left end now. Um, should
Speaker 1: we be afraid of him at all? To keep going? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think I'll be interested to
Speaker 1: see how how the Dallas line. I mean, you got
Speaker 1: a lot of talent up here, Spenton Buckner particularly, Fortunately,
Speaker 1: that's the strength of your line. And is Martin and
Speaker 1: Frederick left guard? Maybe I'm I'm curious to see what
Speaker 1: Buckner can do. Does he go on either side? Yeah? Yeah? Um,
Speaker 1: linebacker's interesting. They I mentioned Harold your primary linebackers, Ray
Speaker 1: Ray Armstrong's your primary yeah, um, he's your primary will
Speaker 1: And then right now brock Coyle is playing Mike because
Speaker 1: Navarro Bowman is no longer a forty nine er big
Speaker 1: X factor. Here is Ruben Foster, who you might remember.
Speaker 1: He's he seems kind of like the spiritual descendant of
Speaker 1: Rolando McLean in a lot of ways. That's not good.
Speaker 1: He's from He's from Alabama. He certainly seems a little feisty. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was the guy that got thrown on or off
Speaker 1: the field both. Okay, he got thrown out of the combine.
Speaker 1: If you'll remember he freaked out on the medical remember that. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: what do you remember? The circumstances. It's just the NFL
Speaker 1: comb I mean, in their defense, it is a grueling
Speaker 1: process where you spend like fifteen hours in a hospital
Speaker 1: getting poked and prodded. And I guess he just had
Speaker 1: enough and somebody like yanked on his arm or just
Speaker 1: you know, he got he won test too many and
Speaker 1: he wasn't having it. Yeah, Um, of course you think,
Speaker 1: you know, you're basically interviewing for a million dollar job.
Speaker 1: You think you could keep your patients for a day. Um,
Speaker 1: he's dealing. Also him, Reuben and Ray Ray were somebody
Speaker 1: tried to rob them earlier this week. I heard about
Speaker 1: the outside of a club and they didn't do anything wrong,
Speaker 1: but they it was just an altercation and the police
Speaker 1: got involved. And so that's a thing. He was limited
Speaker 1: in practice this week. He's a first round pick. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a stud if he's on the field, but he's
Speaker 1: kind of been limited as he played well with him
Speaker 1: this year. He's only played one game. Oh but he
Speaker 1: did play well in that game. So that does sound
Speaker 1: a lot like lauro Landon will claimed it. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: little bit. Um bye the bye I went. I went
Speaker 1: to I went to the sample sale, the DCM sample
Speaker 1: say last night found a Rolando McClean jersey for like jersey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a T shirt jersey. Like I never heard that.
Speaker 1: The discount was insane, Like it was a twenty five
Speaker 1: dollars shirt for like five dollars. Obviously, ill you got it,
Speaker 1: like obviously you're gonna hang it in the office. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm gonna do with it yet. I
Speaker 1: might frame it. I don't know. But he's one of
Speaker 1: my own. So I have a giveaway on the here
Speaker 1: on the air. No I want it. I bought it
Speaker 1: for me. Cocate your own. Um, all right, your secondary.
Speaker 1: It's definitely a medium. Yeah, it's median. It's a medium
Speaker 1: for sure. I might frame it. I don't know. Um,
Speaker 1: maybe a lot of LSU guys in the secondary starting
Speaker 1: with not Eric reads the name, you know. But Richard
Speaker 1: Robinson is the guy you need to know. Um, he's
Speaker 1: a long range like six one safety or cornerback. He's
Speaker 1: probably the guy that's gonna be dealing with Dez because
Speaker 1: he's big. He's big height wise, but he's skinny. But
Speaker 1: he can dezle abuse him. Well, that's gonna I think, honestly,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be something to watch. Is who gets the
Speaker 1: upper hand in that because Das has the size to
Speaker 1: beat him. But he is a good man corner with
Speaker 1: good height. So yes, he's he's I mean, he's physically
Speaker 1: very He probably should have been a first round pick
Speaker 1: or at least, you know, a top sixty type of pick,
Speaker 1: but he got into a lot of off field stuff
Speaker 1: at LSU, couldn't stay at eligible. Yeah. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you have to leave LSU early, you really really messed up. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I mean the same thing with the with Tyron
Speaker 1: Matthew though he left early. They kicked him out, but
Speaker 1: he still got drafted and is making a name for himself,
Speaker 1: So good for him. Um, Dante Johnson is your other cornerback.
Speaker 1: Kwan Williams and Jaquisky Tart a quiskey A quiskey Tart.
Speaker 1: They're the guys Yack and whiskey, Like, just put it
Speaker 1: together if you're quis If that's what you want to do. Sure, um.
Speaker 1: And then Eric Reid, who solid player, is notable for
Speaker 1: off field reasons more so the last year or two.
Speaker 1: He's the other guy along with Colin Kaepernick, who's been
Speaker 1: involved in the anthem protests. Wrote a really good op
Speaker 1: ed about it in The New York Times. I advise
Speaker 1: anybody and everybody to read it if they get a chance.
Speaker 1: All of that said, like there's a lot of draft
Speaker 1: capital on here. These guys aren't very good. They're twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: and total defense twenty seventh, and past defense eighteenth, and
Speaker 1: run defense giving up one hundred and thirteen yards per
Speaker 1: game twenty third, and scoring they're allowing twenty five points
Speaker 1: a game. It's so, I mean, it's a testament I
Speaker 1: call it good coaching that they're not particularly great on
Speaker 1: offense and they're not particularly great on defense, but all
Speaker 1: all their games are coming down to the wire, so
Speaker 1: they're doing enough to make it work one way or
Speaker 1: the other. I kind of wonder if that's bad coaching, honestly,
Speaker 1: because you know, I think, well, the games are coming
Speaker 1: down to the wire. I mean, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: damn well if if Jason Garrett doesn't win games that
Speaker 1: are close, as he's not managing them, well, so you know,
Speaker 1: you have to kind of wonder if you get down
Speaker 1: to that point in the game, or they not doing
Speaker 1: what they need to to. I mean, five in a row.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's you can make that argument, but I
Speaker 1: just think of it in turns. I mean, this has
Speaker 1: got to be one of the five least talented rosters
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now, I would guess, And they're
Speaker 1: going through a big transition. They totally overhauled their defense.
Speaker 1: First time. Shanahan's weren't running their offense. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: really a whole lot of guys that he would prefer
Speaker 1: to have quarter and they're still very, very competitive, So
Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, they're not finishing in crunch time,
Speaker 1: but given what they're working with, I think it's impressive
Speaker 1: that they've given it as good of a goat they have,
Speaker 1: so ambers there anything about this defense. This gives you
Speaker 1: anything that you're concerned about with regards to this defense,
Speaker 1: not super scared, but I got a few things. So
Speaker 1: I was checking out all these stats, and you know,
Speaker 1: Dallas have done a really good job scoring inside the thirty,
Speaker 1: so I think right now they're ranked taken best in
Speaker 1: the league. Now, the forty nine ers defense has done
Speaker 1: a fairly good job at stopping the opposing team to
Speaker 1: score inside the thirty touchdowns yore, yeah, inside the thirty.
Speaker 1: So this is where I thought things got a little
Speaker 1: interested interesting, and I think the Cowboys should be aware
Speaker 1: and kind of be careful with this. The defense, the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers defense, they're ranked in third place with
Speaker 1: red zone takeaways. Now the Cowboys, they haven't given the
Speaker 1: ball at all this year, but this is my concern.
Speaker 1: If they choose to not run the ball and throw it.
Speaker 1: I'm concerned with these wide receivers, the receivers catching the ball,
Speaker 1: you know, not letting the ball, not dropping the ball.
Speaker 1: And it's a fine line where the drob becomes a
Speaker 1: fumble and then now the other team takes it away
Speaker 1: and now we see some of these receiver receivers struggle
Speaker 1: with that this year, and with the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: being ranked at number three with red zone takeaways, I
Speaker 1: would say this is an area where I would be
Speaker 1: very cautious of. Okay, Nick all right, um, you know,
Speaker 1: anytime you have a pass rusher that can get after
Speaker 1: the quarterback, he could disrupt the games. And Dumerville is
Speaker 1: on by the downside of his career, buddy. It does
Speaker 1: have three and a half sacks this year. It's not
Speaker 1: eight and a half like DeMarcus Lawrence, but it's still
Speaker 1: you know, he's getting to the quarterback. And I think
Speaker 1: if if he gets in a situation where maybe they
Speaker 1: put him over there on Lyle Collins and here's a
Speaker 1: crafty veteran, he's seen some things. He can start disrupting things.
Speaker 1: That could be one. Anytime you have a guy that
Speaker 1: that can kind of take over a game that I
Speaker 1: don't know if Dumerville still has the ability, but he
Speaker 1: still has shown he can get after the quarterback, so
Speaker 1: he would be my guy that I think that you
Speaker 1: have to watch that because you know it takes eleven
Speaker 1: but but really, if one guy's messing up a play,
Speaker 1: then you know you can be to field quick. So
Speaker 1: that would be my guy to watch. All right. Two
Speaker 1: things I'll point out real quick, the passing game. In
Speaker 1: the passing game defense, they have given up a lot
Speaker 1: of big plays. You look at right now, they're ranked
Speaker 1: twenty second and twenty plus YAR passes that they've given
Speaker 1: up with nineteen and ranked thirtieth in the league with
Speaker 1: forty plus YAR passes they've given up. They've given up
Speaker 1: six of those. So this is a defense that's right
Speaker 1: for big plays. We don't know if the Cowboys will
Speaker 1: necessarily be able to take advantage of that. They have
Speaker 1: had some big plays this season. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's been at a at a big rate, but they
Speaker 1: have had some. This would be a defense where maybe
Speaker 1: it suggests they have some opportunities this week to have
Speaker 1: some big plays. But I'll flip it to the other
Speaker 1: side of this, and the same way I said the statistically, offensively,
Speaker 1: there was nothing they really did well other than their
Speaker 1: yards per attempt was pretty good. It's the same thing
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. The one thing
Speaker 1: that was pretty good about them statistically is that right
Speaker 1: now they're ranked fourth in rush yards per attempt allowed,
Speaker 1: only at only allowing an average of three point four
Speaker 1: yards per tip. Now, that suggests that in these games, again,
Speaker 1: this could be a situation where the teams they've played
Speaker 1: and just said, hey, we're gonna just throw the ball around,
Speaker 1: and they really can't stop the pass. But when they've
Speaker 1: tried to run, at least they've held them to three
Speaker 1: point four yards per tip. That's something worth worth noting
Speaker 1: in and being aware of. Well, yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: that makes sense because, like I said, the I mean,
Speaker 1: the bulk of the really good talent on this defense
Speaker 1: is in the front seven, especially if Ruben Foster plays
Speaker 1: in this game, and that gives you a really athletic,
Speaker 1: physical linebacker to help your defensive line. I mean, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the Cowboys need to be
Speaker 1: able to run the ball against anybody but a lot
Speaker 1: like the Rams. This is a matchup where I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: all right, they have they have the talent where they
Speaker 1: can probably make life difficult for you in the run game.
Speaker 1: Your receivers need to be able to win some matchups
Speaker 1: to take the pressure off that. This is mentioning Dez
Speaker 1: and Richard Robinson, Beasley, all those guys. I think this is.
Speaker 1: This is a game where I'm thinking you passed the
Speaker 1: set up the run more than vice versa. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take our finals. They do have one area, though,
Speaker 1: real quick, one area where they are the best in
Speaker 1: the league, and that is punt coverage. They are the best.
Speaker 1: So Switzer is gonna have a tough game because they
Speaker 1: only they only allow one point seven yards on punt return.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, so they I mean most of us catch it,
Speaker 1: go down, most of us getting you know, fair catches.
Speaker 1: But I just don't drop him. But yeah, yeah, he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't worry worry about that. He'll probably do it again.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our final break. We'll come back
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Speaker 1: and California. Antonio, what up? What's up? Guys and lady?
Speaker 1: How's everybody doing? So? All right? Um, so my question,
Speaker 1: I don't really I'm not hit too what you got
Speaker 1: talking about today. I'm just I'm really cooling about yesterday's
Speaker 1: segment segment with a lawyer, and I thought it was phenomenal.
Speaker 1: I mean, man, that was great, great radio. I listened
Speaker 1: on the podcast in the morning because I worked. I
Speaker 1: worked nice. I want a janetarial service, so I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm up early in the morning. But um, the reason
Speaker 1: my call at Amber, I think it's super smart, and
Speaker 1: I mean, I love you on the show as a
Speaker 1: different dynamic. I just feel like you were beating that
Speaker 1: dead horse, you know, because it really doesn't matter Web
Speaker 1: and he did it. I mean it matters, but the
Speaker 1: police in file charges and indeed in prosecute, and in
Speaker 1: my mind, the system says he didn't do it because
Speaker 1: there's not enough evidence to say he did it. So
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like it's a dead horse to
Speaker 1: keep going back and say, well, I want to know
Speaker 1: the truth and Web or not he did it or not.
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that the matter is this, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of evidence to prove that the accuser is
Speaker 1: it's not credible. And we all noticed there's people out there,
Speaker 1: not just women, men too, who make force claims against
Speaker 1: people who have money and power and influence. They've want
Speaker 1: some of that money power influence. So I feel like weep,
Speaker 1: we keep perpetuating the narrative that he may have did
Speaker 1: it or not because he's a football player and he
Speaker 1: played for the Cowboys, and you know, the Cowboys always
Speaker 1: have that reputation of having players who necessarily don't make
Speaker 1: the best choices. So that was that was just my
Speaker 1: reason for the call. And all right, a little too cent, thanks, Antonio.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I will say this though, I
Speaker 1: think that's kind of what you got to yesterday, Dave,
Speaker 1: which is everybody kind of has to make their own
Speaker 1: decision on that because there is nothing that's clear cut
Speaker 1: that says definitively this is what happened. This is the
Speaker 1: person that was right, and this is the person that
Speaker 1: was wrong, and so everybody kind of has to listen
Speaker 1: to the information and read the information and for themselves
Speaker 1: kind of figure it out. And I think amber not
Speaker 1: to put words in your mouth, but it seems like
Speaker 1: what you were saying was you still don't feel like
Speaker 1: you have enough already on that, and that's something you
Speaker 1: really wish you had more clarity on. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know at this point that's a dead end right there.
Speaker 1: You're not going anywhere. And again, the whole five isn't
Speaker 1: really about that anymore. It's more about the whole process
Speaker 1: and the whole case being done fairly to Zeek. But again,
Speaker 1: my whole reason behind that was just the whole point
Speaker 1: of hearing the NFL finding all this evidence or all
Speaker 1: these little things to prove that he did he did,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole domestic violence thing, and that he
Speaker 1: was guilty and therefore he has a six games suspension.
Speaker 1: So that's just out of curiosity, Like now, I just
Speaker 1: want to hear it from both sides, but I know
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. And again, I think the
Speaker 1: whole fact that Zeke did all these other things, the
Speaker 1: whole punching thing, whether it happened or not, I know
Speaker 1: there was some confusion with that whole thing at the club,
Speaker 1: the whole pulling down the shirt also what was the
Speaker 1: other one that he did, the walking inside the marijuana shop,
Speaker 1: All those little things, I think it tied up to
Speaker 1: this bigger thing. And the NFL just was kind of
Speaker 1: put up with him, and you know, did whatever they
Speaker 1: could to in fact, suspend him for six games. Not
Speaker 1: only that, I mean, it's we've talked about it a lot,
Speaker 1: and then you can only talk about it to a
Speaker 1: certain point. But you know, and you I mean, you
Speaker 1: have to, like you said, you have to make your
Speaker 1: own decision about this at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: But I would argue with the caller that it's important,
Speaker 1: and it's important because he's a Cowboys player, and it's
Speaker 1: it's not like it's some kind of witch hunt because
Speaker 1: he's this visible guy. I mean, this is a guy
Speaker 1: that millions of people. You know, you buy your son
Speaker 1: or your daughter his jersey, and he's this representative of
Speaker 1: these things that you hold dear in this team that
Speaker 1: you love. And for everybody that wants this to just
Speaker 1: not be talked about anymore because it's their favorite player
Speaker 1: on their favorite team, that's what makes it important is
Speaker 1: you kind of want to know, or a lot of
Speaker 1: people at least want to know you know what type
Speaker 1: of person he is and whether they should be supporting him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but to represent this for the caller, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a matter of him saying I don't want this
Speaker 1: to be talked about because it's my favorite player. I
Speaker 1: think what he's saying is there's enough information out there
Speaker 1: that clearly paints Tiffany Thompson. I think that's her name
Speaker 1: as someone who is not credible. And even the person
Speaker 1: that did the investigation and talked to Tiffany Thompson on
Speaker 1: six different occasions said she is not a credible witness.
Speaker 1: So I think what he's saying is it's not so
Speaker 1: much about his favorite player, it's more about there's enough
Speaker 1: out there that suggests that she was trying to take
Speaker 1: advantage of a situation. Whether that's true or not, that's
Speaker 1: what it suggests. And he said, from that standpoint, he
Speaker 1: feels like it's beating a dead horse because she's not credible.
Speaker 1: That's what I think he's saying. I and you know what,
Speaker 1: I agree with that, but I think, you know, going
Speaker 1: back to what she was just saying, there's enough other
Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence, and to be fair, it is hearsay, but
Speaker 1: there's been enough troubling stuff surrounding Ezekiel Elliott that it
Speaker 1: bears questioning and thinking about and coming to your own
Speaker 1: decisions about. And he put himself in that situation with
Speaker 1: questionable decision making regardless of whether he's guilty or innocent
Speaker 1: of this particular act. Yeah, and to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: all those other things are very very small compared to
Speaker 1: being accused of domestic violence. And that's kind of what
Speaker 1: he was getting in the locker room yesterday. That's what
Speaker 1: he has to fight if it feels like he didn't
Speaker 1: do anything wrong, because I don't want to live with that.
Speaker 1: And again, the fact that he is fighting this whole thing,
Speaker 1: this horror and going this far kind of place to
Speaker 1: the whole idea that he didn't do anything, and maybe
Speaker 1: he didn't. But again, it's just so many little holes
Speaker 1: here and there throughout this whole case that it just
Speaker 1: creates some doubt. And that's just me wanting to know
Speaker 1: more in detail. And I did read all the details
Speaker 1: of the whole case and Tiffany Thompson and all that,
Speaker 1: and even then I wasn't clear on what to think.
Speaker 1: You know, one moment, you think one thing, next thing,
Speaker 1: you know, you see something else and now you're thinking
Speaker 1: the other ways. So we want to know. But it's
Speaker 1: it's important. All right, Let's get a question from Twitter.
Speaker 1: Do you think Woods will get more snaps at safety
Speaker 1: and bass defense with Byron Jones? In other words, take
Speaker 1: take Keith off the field pretty much. There's a couple
Speaker 1: of variables there. One which we already talked about, is
Speaker 1: that Shitta be Woozier might not play in this game.
Speaker 1: It's early to say that, but it's something you have
Speaker 1: to wonder about. They looked at him at safety against
Speaker 1: Green Bay, so that's something that could affect the rest
Speaker 1: of the playing time. The other one is cornerback playing time.
Speaker 1: Is Wood's gonna play more nickelback? Where exactly A you're
Speaker 1: gonna line him up? I know, I know fans hate
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath, but I'd be pretty surprised if they look
Speaker 1: drastically different on defense than they have. I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: you'll see some young guys. Cheetah will be in there.
Speaker 1: If he's able, Woods will mix in dime Nickel. I
Speaker 1: think maybe he's played a little bit of base. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they they've taken Byron and Heath. Heath often base
Speaker 1: a couple of times and put caveon and Woods out
Speaker 1: there before. But you know, if you just if you're
Speaker 1: thinking Jeff Heath's going to be standing with his helmet
Speaker 1: on the sideline for this whole game, you're wrong. Do
Speaker 1: you think that there is a I'll ask question all
Speaker 1: you guys. Do you think that there is a significant
Speaker 1: chance that by the time we get to late part
Speaker 1: of the season December, that Xavier Woods will be your
Speaker 1: starting safety? How's the team doing you you paint the scenario.
Speaker 1: Let's assume for a second that they're doing well. Let's
Speaker 1: also assume that they're not doing well. And does it
Speaker 1: matter if they're winning games? I would be surprised if
Speaker 1: they make wholesale changes like that. I mean, even if
Speaker 1: you think back actually in twenty fifteen when they've made changes.
Speaker 1: I mean they've they've switched around the running backs, they
Speaker 1: changed quarterbacks because they were losing games. They're like, this
Speaker 1: isn't working. We got to find something that will. But
Speaker 1: Heath is a bridge player, right, I would assume we
Speaker 1: all agree that Heath is kind of your bridge to
Speaker 1: the point where you get a safety long term. You
Speaker 1: lost your you lost safeties last year and so this
Speaker 1: was your kind of answer for the short term until
Speaker 1: you can bring somebody along. Right, Is he the worst
Speaker 1: safety that starts? No, but he's the one you got
Speaker 1: the least invested in. Yeah, but the first round pick
Speaker 1: is not going to be a guy you sit on
Speaker 1: the bench unless you just have to. I don't have
Speaker 1: to sit him on the bench. You can maybe playing
Speaker 1: him in the other position. I guess that. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna move in the corner this year, are they.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think. I wouldn't expect Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods to be playing slot corner either. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just think when when if Xavier Woods is going to
Speaker 1: play in the game. I think his skill set is
Speaker 1: probably similar to what Byron Jones can do. So maybe
Speaker 1: Byron Jones can play some some corner. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that the one thing Heath does
Speaker 1: is that he's he's pretty It's pretty physical when it
Speaker 1: comes to tackling. Now, if he misses d Gurley in
Speaker 1: the open field, then yeah, that's not very physical, but
Speaker 1: he'll come up there and bring it. I think that
Speaker 1: Byron Jones more that I see him, the more I
Speaker 1: think he's probably not built for the position. That's what
Speaker 1: I view. So if I was gonna take it, you know,
Speaker 1: put Xavier Woods in there, I think I would look
Speaker 1: at it maybe Byron Jones before I would look at Heath.
Speaker 1: I just think a lot of times, I think coaches
Speaker 1: hate to be wrong more than than they want to
Speaker 1: be right, if that makes sense, you know. And Heath
Speaker 1: is a veteran who has played and he can tackle,
Speaker 1: he has made some plays before, he has those instincts,
Speaker 1: and he has earned the coaches trust. Regardless of whether
Speaker 1: you the listener think that's fair, that's the case, and
Speaker 1: I think it's going to take something drastic for them
Speaker 1: to just pull him and replace him with a rookie.
Speaker 1: That's just kind of my instinct. That's that's me getting
Speaker 1: based on what I know about those coaches. But the
Speaker 1: fact that they were that they did a similar thing
Speaker 1: with Carol and Jordan Lewis. They got Jordan Lewis in there,
Speaker 1: he did took advantage of the opportunity, and and Xavier
Speaker 1: Wood is getting opportunities. What happened there there was an injury,
Speaker 1: I get that. All I'm saying though, is there was
Speaker 1: an opportunity for Jordan Lewis to play. He played well,
Speaker 1: and they said, you know, Carol, Carol is a guy
Speaker 1: that just came in, just got to the team, has
Speaker 1: been here for a while. Yes, but but the question
Speaker 1: still remains, do you not see Heath as a bridge
Speaker 1: player in the exact same way the Carol was a
Speaker 1: bridge player? Or do you think he's in there the
Speaker 1: Cowboys long term plans as a safety. Probably not, He's No,
Speaker 1: You're probably right that he's a bridge player, but you
Speaker 1: know you can space that out. I mean, Jeremy Mincy
Speaker 1: was a bridge player and he started for two years,
Speaker 1: so you know he's under contract again. They trust him,
Speaker 1: they value him, and I just feel like they'll be
Speaker 1: reluctant to do something that dramatic. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we've already seen the young guys getting snaps and I
Speaker 1: think that will continue. But I'm just I'm talking drastic, like, Noah, Jeff,
Speaker 1: we don't need you. We're good. You're not playing safety
Speaker 1: in this game. I don't think you'll see something like
Speaker 1: that unless there's an injury. And I was I wasn't
Speaker 1: saying that either. I guess what I was more asking
Speaker 1: is do you see a scenario where the playing time
Speaker 1: kind of flips to where Xavier's playing more. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean they're not gonna rotate, because this team rotates on defense.
Speaker 1: Like we know that they're gonna rotate guys in They're
Speaker 1: gonna be times you're gonna have guys on the field
Speaker 1: and aren't starters, and you're gonna have a lot of them.
Speaker 1: So I understand that. But I'm just saying, do you
Speaker 1: think there's a point where it flips to where Xavier
Speaker 1: Woods is out there more frequently than than Jeff Heath is.
Speaker 1: That's more what I was kind of. I can see
Speaker 1: that mainly because of the special team's ability that Heat does.
Speaker 1: But again, like I'm saying, I feel like they all
Speaker 1: need some work. I mean, I couldn't imagine just benching
Speaker 1: Heath and just letting Byron Jones continue to go out
Speaker 1: there and take the wrong angles and getting you know,
Speaker 1: knocked off the ball by you know, tight ends and
Speaker 1: guards and stuff like that. So I just don't know
Speaker 1: if his body type. I thought he would kind of
Speaker 1: develop into that, but I don't think he has. I
Speaker 1: think he is probably now more of a corner to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's the body tie. I
Speaker 1: just don't think he's they're playing everyone. I think that's
Speaker 1: for both safeties. You said, we said it last week.
Speaker 1: I think the safety position. Is this a position that
Speaker 1: concerns me to most on this team because I don't
Speaker 1: think they're getting great play out either one of them.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair and for the ten millionth time,
Speaker 1: I think it's more likely it's just a scenario where
Speaker 1: they're leaning on all five of those guys or six
Speaker 1: if you want to count cheetoh, whatever. But this is
Speaker 1: just a platoon because there's there's no great answer anywhere.
Speaker 1: All Right, let's take another question from other than Garson
Speaker 1: against our corners, which matchup against the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: are you guys more intrigued intrigued by well, mainly, I
Speaker 1: mean you have to stop Carlos Hyde. I think he's
Speaker 1: other than Garson, he's probably their most talented offensive player.
Speaker 1: He's going to run the ball again. I look for
Speaker 1: Bethard to try to find him on easy open routes.
Speaker 1: That's on your linebackers, specifically Sean Lee Ming he's out there.
Speaker 1: And then George Kittle probably I mean for a rookie,
Speaker 1: like I said, he's he's got twenty one catches and
Speaker 1: he's already been targeted thirty one times. For a guy
Speaker 1: that was drafted in the fifth round, that's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: And again, he plays a position that can be really
Speaker 1: friendly to a rookie quarterback. So yeah, is this only
Speaker 1: the Are you just talking about the offense or you're
Speaker 1: talking about offense or defense. I think Buckner's a guy
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep an eye on, just because when
Speaker 1: he lines up on what would be his right side
Speaker 1: and Cowboys left side, and that that matchup could be
Speaker 1: favorable for them, you know, for a defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: for a disruptive defensive tackle to line up over whoever's
Speaker 1: gonna line up for the Cowboys at left guard, I
Speaker 1: think that can be a bit of a you know,
Speaker 1: that can be a bit of a problem for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: especially if he becomes disruptive enough to where the running
Speaker 1: game can't really do what it needs to do, and
Speaker 1: especially in short yard situation. I think Tyron Smith's back
Speaker 1: is allowing Jonathan Cooper to stay at left guard right
Speaker 1: because I think in practice they'd like to keep the
Speaker 1: continuity there. And what's happening is when he doesn't practice
Speaker 1: chas Green goes over and plays left tackle. So I
Speaker 1: think that that that's helping, you know, Cooper stay in there,
Speaker 1: you know, in keeping him at that spot, because then
Speaker 1: you'd have to move once Tyran comes back, then you
Speaker 1: moved him. And that's the problem because Shaz Green didn't
Speaker 1: significantly show that he was better than Cooper. He might
Speaker 1: be a little bit better and it's better. Like you said,
Speaker 1: you know, we've always said about coaches and scouts feel
Speaker 1: smarter when they drafted a guy that's playing. But you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think at this point Cooper is
Speaker 1: going to stay there left guard. We've talked about tackle
Speaker 1: plenty of times, but the questions just keep coming in
Speaker 1: in regards to him. Where does Taco need to improve
Speaker 1: his game the most? Some options are balanced, still biggest
Speaker 1: issue first step, hands staying lower. What do you guys think.
Speaker 1: I'm not a scout, but I just think he needs
Speaker 1: a bigger repertoire of stuff that he can do. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a joke by now, Rush moves. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: joke by now where we're in the press box, like, oh,
Speaker 1: spin move. Taco tried to spind move. It didn't work,
Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work, then then nothing else and
Speaker 1: then have a whole lot else except to just run
Speaker 1: and hope he gets past the guy. Like you don't
Speaker 1: see swims or stutter steps or any of that type
Speaker 1: of To me, after all those things, it would be
Speaker 1: upper body strength because he needs to just get bigger
Speaker 1: up there. Because of what happens is is that all
Speaker 1: these moves that you see defensive ends have, they also
Speaker 1: have one called just the straight bullrush. If the guy's
Speaker 1: kind of off balance a little bit, you just straight
Speaker 1: go right into his chest and just shove him back.
Speaker 1: I don't think Taco can do that. I have a
Speaker 1: hard time imagining Taco just pushing walking a tackle and
Speaker 1: they can't really do that yet. He'll get to that point,
Speaker 1: and when he does, then the other moves will start
Speaker 1: to work. So he's gotta just gets bigger and stronger.
Speaker 1: And you know, for your feeing going to do that
Speaker 1: till offseason. Yeah, and your first round pick coming from Michigan,
Speaker 1: I think that maybe they thought that wouldn't be as
Speaker 1: much of an issue, But you know, you would think
Speaker 1: a defensive vent in the first round could have helped
Speaker 1: this team. Yeah, I mean camp early, the early report
Speaker 1: on him was that he was raw and he was
Speaker 1: going to take some developing. That is clearly true, but
Speaker 1: that can still be true, and you can still say
Speaker 1: that this is a disappointing output for a first round pick,
Speaker 1: Like you can be raw and know that it's going
Speaker 1: to take some time and still a couple great still more.
Speaker 1: I mean, if by Jones was raw, yeah, exactly, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's you're even you know, I hate to even bring
Speaker 1: him up, but t J. Watt is raw and he's
Speaker 1: not JJ Watt by any stretch of the imagination. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's had a sack in a month. But
Speaker 1: he's out there impacting the game. I mean, he's making
Speaker 1: tackles and rushing the passer and being a part of
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's defense. But is that also because of opportunity as well?
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't seem like tackles out there very much,
Speaker 1: which he would be out there if he was showing
Speaker 1: a pension to do anything. But even with the little
Speaker 1: times that he is out there, every time I see him,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. He just always looks exhaust and
Speaker 1: I know playing this game is exhausting, but I also
Speaker 1: get to see the other guys and they don't look
Speaker 1: like that. And I've been on the sideline and every
Speaker 1: time I see him coming off the field, he's just
Speaker 1: like he just played the biggest game of his life
Speaker 1: and he's just done with it. I don't know, there's something.
Speaker 1: He just needs more work out there and hopefully play
Speaker 1: up to his first round pick expectations. All Right, thanks
Speaker 1: guys for joining us. We're back tomorrow nine thirty am
Speaker 1: till then. For Nick Even, Dave helm and Amber Garcia.
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