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Speaker 1: We appreciate you joining us. Mark sleara three times Super

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Speaker 1: He'll join us up covering twenty five minutes. Get his

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Speaker 1: thoughts on specifically two teams that he played for, Commanders

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Speaker 1: where he won a Super Bowl under Joe Gibbs, and

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Speaker 1: of course, the Denver Broncos. He's at camp on a

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Speaker 1: daily basis. Can the Broncos take the next step? Last year?

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Speaker 1: Bo nicks at a breakthrough year, that defense is outstanding,

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Speaker 1: well as stink. What his thoughts are on the ceiling

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Speaker 1: of the Broncos So yesterday, the news of the day,

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Speaker 1: the nod if you will is uh, was that the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts had named Daniel Jones Danny Dimes their starting quarterback,

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Speaker 1: which obviously, to anyone who's paying attention, signifies that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: might be about it for Anthony and Richardson in Indy, Right,

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Speaker 1: that's reasonable when you're a top ten pick and a

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Speaker 1: guy who was on the street mid season last year

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Speaker 1: and on the street this year and signed, which is,

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Speaker 1: you know, making good money twelve million dollars, but that's

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Speaker 1: still it was still look at his backup money and

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is on the bench. Yeah, it's reasonable. What's

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Speaker 1: his future? I think you know what it is. I

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Speaker 1: the story of the NFL last year on many levels

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Speaker 1: was former first round picks, former starting quarterbacks getting a

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Speaker 1: chance elsewhere. Sam Darnold, it was his fourth team, but

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Speaker 1: he made it work and now he's on his fifth

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Speaker 1: team and he's a starting quarterback. Gina Smith a couple

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Speaker 1: is a much better finish than start to his career.

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's found a home in Tampa, so it's never

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Speaker 1: truly over, but it's probably over in Indy. Right, this

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Speaker 1: is the same guy who didn't want to go back

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Speaker 1: into the game. Teammates noticed, this is the same guy

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Speaker 1: just not been an accurate thrower. And there is something

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Speaker 1: It's like, you've been with the same coach the whole time.

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Speaker 1: You didn't want to do that before. That would be

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Speaker 1: that'd be a very reasonable thought. So his agent's saying,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the future is here. Yeah, you do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: isn't anything negative. Anthony Richardson will be ready whenever his

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Speaker 1: So these aren't things that are working against him, These

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Speaker 1: That means he'll be three full seasons into his career,

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Speaker 1: he being Anthony Richardson with only one season's worth of

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Speaker 1: your best ability is availability. And here's where Anthony Richardson's

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Speaker 1: In order to run him, you put him in harm's way,

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Speaker 1: and he has tendency to be inaccurate with him throwing

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Speaker 1: Not that sports radio or live radio is always the best,

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Speaker 4: brought to you. You don't have to use your phone,

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Speaker 4: you don't have to look at a little rectangle. You

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Speaker 4: are being entertained with your ears and with TV with

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Speaker 4: your eyes and ears. And I don't think that'll ever

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Speaker 4: go away, because there will be a lot of things

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Speaker 4: we still do with our hands besides touching our phone

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Speaker 4: and using our phone. We need radio because it's it's like,

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Speaker 4: in a way, it's like a two it's like a

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Speaker 4: two dimensional thing like it. It's not about your hands

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Speaker 4: and you're all your senses. It's about hearing, it's about listening,

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Speaker 4: or it's about if it's on TV, it's about watching

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Speaker 4: and listening. So I think it'll always be relevant. We're

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Speaker 4: just sharing more of the pie now.

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Speaker 5: And I would also juxtapose that with what seems counterintuitive,

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Speaker 5: but I think the future of traditional over the air

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Speaker 5: television is actually in deeper trouble because you're seeing live

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Speaker 5: sports start to go way from traditional television now to

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Speaker 5: Netflix and YouTube, and the same for entertainment. So I

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Speaker 5: think that that arguably is in danger of facing the

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Speaker 5: same challenges the radio is. But I think radio will

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Speaker 5: always be there.

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Speaker 1: I do think. I think audio will always be there.

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Speaker 1: I think that getting into the phone has been the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing, right, and the iHeartRadio app is just awesome,

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Speaker 1: And now we have that preset where you can just again,

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Speaker 1: because this is to your point, it's a lot like

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Speaker 1: the challenges for writers. You know that I think people read.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong because some of this has shifted,

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Speaker 1: but I thought for a long time people read more.

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Speaker 1: They just weren't reading newspapers. You know, you're reading online articles.

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Speaker 1: And I think people listen to audio now way more

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Speaker 1: than they used to. Right, how many people, you know,

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Speaker 1: like if you was suggest even books, they listen to

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Speaker 1: books on tape or you know, it's like I got

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Speaker 1: a podcast for you, I got a radio show for you.

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Speaker 1: And so the challenge is how to make it so

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Speaker 1: that everyone has headphones in especially in every major city

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Speaker 1: in the country. How do you get it so that

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Speaker 1: you're delivering every time you hop in the car, like

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Speaker 1: I would love to get to the point where there's

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Speaker 1: instead of just a you know, serious XM button or

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Speaker 1: an auxiliary button or a Bluetooth button, there's a Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio button, you know, or selfishly adug Gottlie button

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Speaker 1: right where you just press it. That's my guy. I

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Speaker 1: listen to his content. You know. It's like Howard Stern

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Speaker 1: had his own channel and then he had his own

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Speaker 1: archives or whatever. Like, I think that stuff is great,

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Speaker 1: but I think that the live stuff to be able

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Speaker 1: to get live sports radio, I agree with you. I

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Speaker 1: love like again, if there's an God forbid that there's

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Speaker 1: an earthquake, I don't necessarily think they should tune to us.

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Speaker 1: But all these things that happen in sports off the field.

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Speaker 1: On the field, you want instant reaction, but you also

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Speaker 1: want you need the experience of it. You need the

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Speaker 1: experience of producers who have done it for twenty five years,

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Speaker 1: radio hosts who've done it for twenty five years, because

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Speaker 1: they they understand how things work better because of that perspective.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, look, there's the here's if you're driving,

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Speaker 1: or you're listening in your cube, or you listen to

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Speaker 1: this on our podcast, which does exist, right, know that

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Speaker 1: there's I think the two greatest confidents you can give

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Speaker 1: to a radio guy was one, I listened through the

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Speaker 1: break and two two I got to where I was

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Speaker 1: going and I didn't get out of the car until

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Speaker 1: that segment was over. Those two things you say, and

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Speaker 1: our hearts just leap for you, leap for you. That's

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Speaker 1: when you know you're really doing a good job right radio.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

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Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: So this is Doug Gotlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. So

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Speaker 1: Mark slearethill joinas in I don't know about five minutes here,

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Speaker 1: there was Archie Manning, that's the grandpa to arch Manning

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Speaker 1: came out and it's like, hey, arch isn't leaving college

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Speaker 1: this year back for another year. And as we point

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Speaker 1: out the time and I like the Anthey and Richardson thing.

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Speaker 1: I think he started like fourteen games in college. You

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Speaker 1: got to see a volume of reps because you don't

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Speaker 1: get a ton of time to prove yourself in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: If you're not good enough, they move on again. Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richton becomes a poster boy for that. But take a

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Speaker 1: listen to Arch Banning, starting quarterback Heisman Trophy candidate for

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Speaker 1: the Texas Longhorns number one ranked preseason Texas Longhorns, in

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Speaker 1: response to his grandpa's comments, Arch.

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Speaker 2: Your grandpa gave an interview or he said he expects

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Speaker 2: you to be here next year?

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Speaker 1: Is he right? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I don't know where he got that from.

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Speaker 3: He texted me and apodize about that, but I'm really

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Speaker 3: just taking a day by day right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So there was a little uncomfortable fake media laugh there. Jaystude,

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Speaker 1: do you hear that one?

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Speaker 3: I always hear that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I know you do. I when I heard that, when

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Speaker 1: I heard that drop, I was like, that's Jason Stewart

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Speaker 1: one on one, just like we drew it up. Oh Tom,

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Speaker 1: oh Tom, oh Tom. But again, let's not get it twisted.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know where I heard that from. I

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Speaker 1: do think that's what the Mannings think, and I just

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Speaker 1: think it's the and I actually believe in what Arch

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Speaker 1: Banning is saying, which is like I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: talk about next year. I don't want to think about

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Speaker 1: next year. I don't want to put it out there

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Speaker 1: because that's taking away any percentage of focus of today.

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Speaker 1: And it may sound hokey, it may sound very tony

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Speaker 1: Robbin's esque. You know, it maybe may sound like come on, man,

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Speaker 1: everybody's but it is really unhealthy. It just is, you know,

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Speaker 1: I have a player I love coaching, and he came

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Speaker 1: back for another year. He will have at least one,

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Speaker 1: maybe two more years to play after this, and we

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Speaker 1: were just talking about this, like what do you want

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Speaker 1: to do? What do we want to do about next year?

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Speaker 1: He's like, just why should we talk about it? Like

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Speaker 1: what's the point? You know, we'll worry about next year

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Speaker 1: next year. And I love it, but it is a

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Speaker 1: very hard thing mentally to convince yourself to do. But

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Speaker 1: you're only going to convince yourself to do it if

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Speaker 1: every time it's brought up you say, I'm not thinking

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Speaker 1: about it. I can't think about it. But man, it's

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Speaker 1: a hard thing to do because you don't know. And

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Speaker 1: the last thing you want to do is say, worst

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Speaker 1: case scenario, I'm not very good. I have to come back.

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Speaker 1: These are first world problems. He has a great year,

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Speaker 1: wins the national Championship, win his highest than trophy, do

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Speaker 1: you come back then? Like, I don't know, maybe maybe not.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. So the best way to approach it

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Speaker 1: is the just worry about today. And so where Grandpa

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Speaker 1: Archie is wrong is he articulated a thought about tomorrow

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Speaker 1: which you can leave in the back of your subconscious

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Speaker 1: you can't utter and talk about. And in this case

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Speaker 1: this is gen Z who, of course Chase two also

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Speaker 1: despises feeling like I look, I know, it's a little

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Speaker 1: it's a little like a Tony Robbins. It's a little

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Speaker 1: like a quote you see on a billboard, or you know,

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Speaker 1: a quote you see on a whiteboard, but it is

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Speaker 1: actually true. You just you can't start thinking about the

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Speaker 1: end of the year in the next year, especially when

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Speaker 1: you haven't played a snap this year and your first

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Speaker 1: Napskain ins Ohio State. It's the Gottlieb Show here on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, and he's a three time Super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 1: two time Pro bowler. If you don't know the stink,

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Speaker 1: well maybe you'll know Mark Shlaire, Mark Shlareth. He joins

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Speaker 1: us on behalf of a renegade fantasy. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: that in a second. Stink.

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Speaker 6: How are you I'm doing good, doggie man? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good, good, good. To catch up. Let's let's start

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Speaker 1: with a couple of teams near and dear to your heart. Okay,

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Speaker 1: because two teams who you played for, two teams you

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Speaker 1: won Super Bowls with, and two teams that had to me,

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Speaker 1: they were surprisingly really good years last year. Start with

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. Okay, Uh, everybody talks about the Broncos defense.

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Speaker 1: They did play a soft schedule because the last play

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Speaker 1: schedule obviously from the from the year before. What are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on their ability to take that next step

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Speaker 1: this year?

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Speaker 6: Well, I tell you what. I'm at camp every day,

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Speaker 6: so I've watched pretty much every practice, so I've been

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Speaker 6: around them quite a bit. And what they've done with

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Speaker 6: that roster. You know last year and I said this,

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Speaker 6: I go just mark it down. They had they were

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Speaker 6: sitting at five and a half. I said, pound the over.

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Speaker 6: This roster is a lot better than the national pundits

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Speaker 6: they're giving it credit for. And they had it ranked

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Speaker 6: at the thirtieth best or thirty first best roster. Well,

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Speaker 6: they're a much better roster now with some experience than

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Speaker 6: they were even then. And I tell you what backup

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Speaker 6: players like they can afford or they can have a

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Speaker 6: couple of injuries and still be okay because of what

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Speaker 6: they've done. And then they're scrimmaging the Arizona Cardinals the

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Speaker 6: other day. And Jonathan Gannon, their head coach, a good

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Speaker 6: buddy of mine, and I said, hey man, you know

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Speaker 6: all the narrative has been bone Nicks got carried by

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Speaker 6: the defense. You know, they had a soft schedule, they

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Speaker 6: only beat one team with a winning record. You know,

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Speaker 6: how the whole how, the whole thing goes. And I go,

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Speaker 6: what do you make of bon Nicks? And he said,

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Speaker 6: that dude can lead them to us, That dude can

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Speaker 6: lead them into playoffs. Like, forget about the defense. That

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Speaker 6: guy's good enough to lead them in the playoffs. So

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Speaker 6: this is a really strong football team. Yeah, they're you know,

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Speaker 6: the lack of experience in the receiver position, a little bit,

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Speaker 6: a little bit of an unknown in the running back position. JK. Dobbins,

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Speaker 6: I think RJ. Harvey Doug I think he's gonna be

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Speaker 6: if he stays hell they I think he's going to

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Speaker 6: be a thousand yard rusher. That guy is dynamic, he

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Speaker 6: is tough, and he's learning how to run in a system.

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Speaker 6: So it's it's pretty like, it's pretty exciting in Denver.

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Speaker 6: People are pretty pretty stoked about this football team.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, bo Nick's you know, a ton of experience in

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Speaker 1: college and then he's playing for a quarterback whisper and

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Speaker 1: in Sean Payton. But sometimes that second year is more

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Speaker 1: difficult because the playbook is bigger, the expectations grow, and

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Speaker 1: yet you still really only have one year in the league. Right.

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Speaker 1: Where is bo Nix in his kind of evolution as

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Speaker 1: a quarterback?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I think all those things are fair points, you know,

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Speaker 6: and they've been brought up to Sean a bunch and

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Speaker 6: Sean basically just you know, sweeps those under the rug

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Speaker 6: and says, not with this kid. This kid is just

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Speaker 6: that mature and that good and that's smart, and you know,

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Speaker 6: I think the other thing is Sean understands that second

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Speaker 6: year and he wants to build off that secondary, but

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Speaker 6: he understands for them to go where they want to go,

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Speaker 6: you know, it's not just going to be relying on

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Speaker 6: the defense. They have got to fix the run game.

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Speaker 6: And that's really what they focused a ton on this

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Speaker 6: offseason was fixing that running game, and a lot of

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Speaker 6: it was the talking to the Broncos, talking to Sean Payton,

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Speaker 6: was the fact that the backs really didn't understand entry points,

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Speaker 6: mesh points, run of the football. So it wasn't so

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Speaker 6: much that the plays weren't blocked efficiently enough. It's that

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Speaker 6: the backs just missed the entry points, they missed the holes.

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Speaker 6: And it was really funny. The very first play of

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Speaker 6: the preseason against San Francisco, RJ. Harvey has a eighteen

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Speaker 6: handoff and it's something that's been running this league, hell

645
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Speaker 6: since I played for the Denver Broncos. Simple eighteen handoff

646
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Speaker 6: and he gets about three yards two and a half

647
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Speaker 6: three yards too wide. And if he hits the actual

648
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Speaker 6: entry point, now I've got it on the Stinking Truth podcast.

649
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Speaker 6: I actually did a breakdown on my podcast and you

650
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Speaker 6: can see it. I tell us I used the telestrator.

651
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Speaker 6: If he hits it where it's supposed to go from

652
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Speaker 6: an entry point standpoint, it's a ten to twelve yard run.

653
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Speaker 6: If he breaks one tackle or makes a cornerback miss,

654
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Speaker 6: it's a seventy yard house call and it's blocked perfectly,

655
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Speaker 6: and he turns that twelve yard run into a one

656
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Speaker 6: yard game because he's just off that pace. That's the

657
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 6: problem they had last year. That's what they're coaching these

658
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Speaker 6: backs up on. And I tell you what, it improved

659
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Speaker 6: dramatically from preseason game one to preseason game two. We'll

660
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Speaker 6: see if they can still make those strives.

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Speaker 1: Let's call the Redskins. Sorry, they were the Redskins and

662
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Speaker 1: he played from the Commanders team. Yeah, and obviously you

663
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Speaker 1: know you're part of the Hogs. You're part of the

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Speaker 1: absolute best of that franchise. Last year, I mean, Jane

665
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Speaker 1: Daniels was I mean, he was the better draft pick

666
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Speaker 1: than Caleb Williams and Cliff Kingsbury. System worked, and then

667
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Speaker 1: obviously you have kind of a defensive savant as your

668
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Speaker 1: head coach. It all worked. The biggest challenge to the

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Speaker 1: Commanders this season is what.

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Speaker 6: I really think that I really think it's the Terry

671
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Speaker 6: McLaurin situation, Like there comes a time when that just

672
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Speaker 6: creates bad juju in the locker room. And they've done

673
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Speaker 6: everything right from getting red of Schneider to bringing in

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Speaker 6: Dan Quinn. Dan corn is not just a defensive guru,

675
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Speaker 6: but that guy is That guy is just a guy

676
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Speaker 6: you want to play for. He is just an incredible

677
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Speaker 6: motivator and an incredible connector of people. And so like,

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Speaker 6: I think that was one of the strong suits. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels was tremendous. Cliff Kingsbury his second goal around

680
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Speaker 6: as a play caller, and I had a chance to

681
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 6: sit down with him three or four times last year

682
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Speaker 6: as I called Washington games, and he was incredible sitting

683
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Speaker 6: down with him talking about what he learned from when

684
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Speaker 6: he first got in the league running that you know,

685
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 6: NFL style air raid to what he knows now and

686
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Speaker 6: what didn't work and all the things he learned in that,

687
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Speaker 6: and I think that was really cool. And then bringing

688
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Speaker 6: in Anthony Lynn, former head coach of the Chargers, former

689
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Speaker 6: head coach of the Bills. He's a really just a

690
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Speaker 6: staunch believer in the run game and that really helped.

691
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 6: That really helped that offense as well. But the Terry

692
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Speaker 6: McLaurin thing, Terrys is in the community. He is beloved,

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Speaker 6: He's beloved in the locker room. He's one of the

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Speaker 6: most gracious, just the best people you'd ever want to

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Speaker 6: be around. And when an organization decides that, hey, it's

696
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Speaker 6: going to play hardball with a guy like that, eventually

697
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Speaker 6: the rest of us that are in that locker room

698
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Speaker 6: go well, they're going to do it to him, They'll

699
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Speaker 6: do it to all of us, and it can create

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Speaker 6: some bad juju. I don't think it's there quite yet,

701
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Speaker 6: but they're getting close, and I think they need to

702
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Speaker 6: figure out a deal to make him a part of

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Speaker 6: that team. And the other thing is, every time I

704
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 6: call one of their games, Doug, you know, the defensive

705
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Speaker 6: coordinator on the other side, he's not talking about, you know,

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Speaker 6: stopping Brian Robinson or one of the other backs or

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Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels as much as they are talking about we

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Speaker 6: got to shut down McLaurin because it doesn't matter who

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Speaker 6: the back or who the quarterback is. That dude is

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Speaker 6: a twelve hundred yard you know, eighty five ninety reception

711
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 6: guy every single year.

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Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, what do you do through the Cowboys?

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Speaker 6: Well, if I was the Cowboys, I'd have had him

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Speaker 6: signed two years ago. Like id of taken care of

715
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 6: my business. You got to you gotta sign him.

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Speaker 1: He's like, you.

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Speaker 6: Knew this is the problem with the Cowboys. You knew

718
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Speaker 6: when he was a rookie day he was a superstar.

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Speaker 6: You knew how good the guy was. And the fact

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Speaker 6: that you shuffle your feet and you push it off,

721
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Speaker 6: and you push it off, and you delay it and

722
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 6: you delay it, like what are you guys doing? And

723
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Speaker 6: ultimately what it does is it costs you more money

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Speaker 6: and doesn't allow you to participate in free ation see

725
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Speaker 6: to its fullest. That's why this Dallas Cowboy's done a

726
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 6: great job drafting, but they don't participate in free agency.

727
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Speaker 6: Why because they always wait till the eleventh hour to

728
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Speaker 6: sign Hey, Dak Prescott, wait till the first game of

729
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Speaker 6: the season before you sign him. You know. Now, Michael

730
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Speaker 6: Parson is the same situation. So I mean it's already

731
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Speaker 6: that shit is sale. They're not gonna get him signed early, obviously,

732
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Speaker 6: but I mean you've got to sign the guy. You

733
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Speaker 6: got to make him the highest paid defensive player in football.

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Speaker 6: And I know they don't want to, but that's what

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Speaker 6: you're gonna have to do.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they don't want to because they

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Speaker 1: had a deal. I don't understand the cutting out the agent.

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Speaker 1: I do understand the agent has pissed, But at the

739
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Speaker 1: end of the day, you got to get this thing done.

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Speaker 1: He's got to he's he's got to play some football.

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Speaker 1: What about Trey Hendrickson he's a little bit longer in

742
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Speaker 1: the two. You know, the Bengals don't negotiate in public,

743
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: but now they're shopping him as well. But he does

744
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Speaker 1: need to play this year. So at what point do

745
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Speaker 1: you come off of your negotiating horse say hey, I'm

746
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Speaker 1: just gonna play this year and then I'll be a

747
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Speaker 1: free agent next year if we can't get a deal done.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well he is. He's come out to my knowledge

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Speaker 6: and said I'm not going to play without a new deal.

750
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Speaker 6: And so I think, you know, on Monday Night Football

751
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 6: and they were talking about everything has been agreed to

752
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Speaker 6: it with least assaulters on the report, I believe everything's

753
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 6: been agreed to except you know, the upfront money, which

754
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 6: is obviously the total guarantee is the most important part.

755
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 6: So nothing's really been agreed to if that hasn't been

756
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 6: agreed to. So you know that one is is a

757
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 6: little sticky situation. But you look at the Bengals right now,

758
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Speaker 6: just the way they're structured, and there's part of me

759
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Speaker 6: I just look at Joe Burrow and go, you guys

760
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 6: just waste You're wasting one of the great quarterbacks in

761
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Speaker 6: all of the NFL. I think he's the best quarterback

762
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Speaker 6: in football. And you know, I know, you sign wide

763
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 6: receivers and everybody gets, you know, all excited about that.

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Speaker 6: But your scheme and your system. One, your scheme doesn't

765
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Speaker 6: protect the defense because you're always in shotgun, you're always

766
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 6: throwing the ball. And then you know, your system allows

767
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 6: Joe Burrow to take a ton of hits. And I

768
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Speaker 6: just hate the way they're structured. I hate the way

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Speaker 6: operator as an organization. And then you know, you take

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Speaker 6: your best defensive player and say, hey man, we're you know,

771
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Speaker 6: we're gonna play hardball with you, even though you've led

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Speaker 6: the league in sacks the last two years at seventeen

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Speaker 6: and a half both years. So again, it's just one

774
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Speaker 6: of those Bengal things, you know, like you're just gonna

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Speaker 6: screw this thing up, aren't you.

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Speaker 6: To one here to Bellinger, Pitt swing on a having

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Speaker 1: Oh hit by the eighth inning. We're in the city.

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Speaker 1: old man. Great day in baseball yesterday, Cubs, Uh fro

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Speaker 1: That's baseball. Yeah. Uh your Dodgers bounce back when they're

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Speaker 1: just a great night baseball with the Yankees. Holy cow,